For those who might not have been paying attention, last Friday the RNC Club membership held a discussion at the Federalist Society meeting in Florida.
The Federalist Society is the paid subcontractor of the RNC Club who provide the approved list of judicial nominees that club members are required to support.
Multinational business interests pay the Federalist Society to get their friends on the list, that’s their smaller business model within the club.
The Federalist Society then ranks the names according to the amount provided and the tenured status of the insider individual or group providing the reference. Then the list is passed along to the Club members, political leadership members, who are within the framework of government to install.
Former Republican Vice President Mike Pence and current Republican Governor Ron DeSantis attended the Federalist Society event together at the request of the RNC Club affiliate. The Club board members requested that Vice President Mike Pence use the opportunity to distance a non-club member, Donald Trump, from the organization.
As a tenured Club member, Mike Pence was happy to oblige the request – create the distance the club requested and create the narrative for Club use over the upcoming weekend, including today.
As a consequence of the planned and orchestrated sequence of insider events, all other tenured Club members were then grilled by the media about whether they agree or disagree with the Club’s opinion of the target, Donald Trump.
One example of the Club objective can be found when Florida Republican Senator Marco Rubio appeared on CBS with Margaret Brennan. WATCH:
As the 2022 primary season begins to take shape, it is important to remember that all messaging from the people within the private Club known as the GOP (for selected politicians) or RNC (for membership to support the selected politicians), does not come from some organic coincidence.
Everything we witness as the Club enters their season of greatest business opportunity is all carefully coordinated and presented.
Remember, “artful politics is the purposeful creation of an illusion of options for the audience,” and YOU are the audience.
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If you haven’t already done so, listen to Sunday’s X22 Report 2695b which may enlighten some of the commenters here:
https://x22report.com/aiovg_videos/ep-2695b-trump-just-set-the-stage-for-election-fraud-an-informed-public-threatens-those-in-power/
K.
Please give us an idea of what it says instead of just a link.
Lol. You sound like my husband; “Can you just summarize what the 5-page article said; I don’t want to take the time to read it.” Lazy.
That guy was all Q all the time with non stop predictions of The Plan and Trump removing us from the federal reserve. Dave seems well-meaning and I have listened to many of his shows, but nothing he said came true. Nothing.
Just saying.
Yeah, pure hopium. I agree.
The X22 reports have connected a lot of dots for me, so in that respect, he has done a very good job. I for one appreciate his summarizations.
This is the same person my husband’s cousin’s wife listens to daily. She believes in Q and all the failed predictions.
X22 rocks. Haley, Gowdy, Rubio, and Scott are disgusting and vile RINO’s. I give zero money to the lying RNC.
TRUMP, TRUMP, TRUMP, TRUMP
Pence chief-of-staff was on NBC Sunday talking about the election. This is my takeaway from what he said:
What Marc Short is saying is that even if the election were fraudulent, if it is not rectified by December 14, then the election stands as is and is constitutionally valid. If the courts refuse to consider claims on their merits and state legislatures fail to act when the election was conducted in violation of their lawfully established rules, then there is nothing to be done. In other words, disregard the constitution when conducting the election and then apply the Constitution rigorously when finalizing the results, and everything is proper. My common-sense thinking is that if the election was not conducted properly under the law, it cannot be settled properly under the law.
Without President Trump, Mike Pence is best summed up with a single word, “Who?”
Mike Pence needs President Trump, not the other way round.
I do however support Mike Pence to cosplay as the body guard of Jonny Quest as he looks like Race Obannon.
Race Bannon is a hero.
judas pence is a villian
Race would dispose of pence with prejudice
Stu,
Bandit would have smelled his treachery instantly, and latched onto that worm’s ankle.
Never EVER understood the choice of Pence for Veep.
Pence was the chosen ‘minder’ of Trump when the Club realized that he was headed for the nomination. Later, Uni-Party friends of the Club would have been perfectly happy with a Pence presidency.
But the Specious Counsel and the Specious Media could not force a resignation. Impeachment failed. Trump supporters—‘we love you’—could not be separated from him.
The last resort for the Club to separate the two came through the stolen election and that intent is still manifest with the J6 Committee and lingers within the Club itself.
Donald Trump’s support has firmed. He has not gone away. He remains as persistent and relentless as ever. He has not fallen from the teeter totter. And as long as that holds, the Club end of the board will crack.
Thank you for the positivity. Most comments here are from losers moping about.
Trump was too unreligious for the church-going wing of the R party, and Pence was fresh off his grandstanding battle with Teh Gheys in Indiana. So the players decided Pence would bondo Trump’s bad boy damage from the locker room tapes etc.
The church goers on this blog are some of the many others who helped Trump win the primary in 2016.
And I thought Trump chose Pence as assassination insurance, since the left hates Pence even more than Trump.
I was ambivalent towards him until the Access Hollywood tape backstabbing. He’s a snake, but most politicians are.
PDJT was often seen with religious leaders. I never saw Pence with same. And I met Pence briefly at a Tea Party event at the D.C. Armory 2 days before the 2009 March To the Capitol. Pleasant man, until you see his mysterious email exchange with Paul Ryno and other traitors right before the 2016 election, fomenting plans to get Trump. I believe Pence is weak, and has long been blackmailed due to nefarious activities in Indiana.
I saw the following on a Boy Scout calendar years ago and it applies to many in the Republican Party. Going to church on Sunday won’t make you a Christian anymore than sleeping in the garage overnight will make you a Chevy.
Pence was a requirement- not a choice.
Mike Pence needs an enema.
I’m not sure what you meant. Are you asking if he needs you?
Wrong website, dude. Back to Mother Jones ya go!
AdRem, clean-up on aisle 2, please.
Hathaway,
Just go away. We have all the trolls we need at CTH. Idiots/liars/disinformation peddlers like you can just take your nonsense elsewhere. You have no audience here.
Well no. If America got an enema, Mike Pence is one of the things that would be eliminated,…along with McConnell, McCarthy, and the rest of the career politicians in what Sundance refers to as “the Club”.
Enemas are unpleasant initially, but bring lasting relief!
And one IS coming, administered by “the Truckers coalition”.
Thanks, Dutchman – I sent the link above on to my contacts for prayer chain and help for the convoy members, if anyone can. They are heroes.
too late for that I can smell his stink States away… Pence = S#*T bag.
Bobblehead Pence
👎
He looks like Leslie Neilson and has the smarts of Frank Drebin.
Concur.
Hadji, I’m going with Nikki on that one. Give her a head wrap and bingo.
I had to laugh at the, “You can’t just take a country if you want to”.
Hmmm, really? Cause that is EXACTLY what you all let Delusional Joe and the DIMs do.
Artful politics is: “the purposeful creation of an illusion of options for the audience.” ~ Sundance
Instead of leadership for past year from DeSantis, it appears he was auditioning for the Splitter Secret Square. Soap Box Hero.
Carolina Girl,
I don’t know if I would read too much into Mr. DeSantis’ presence there. If the image is recent, well, the event WAS happening in his state, right?
Even Mr. Trump had to mix with the vipers now and again.
I’m keeping my powder dry.
https://omaha.com/news/state-and-regional/govt-and-politics/desantis-cruz-and-pence-promise-a-republican-revival-at-ricketts-event/article_f6a7dcd0-11aa-11ec-9e8a-178bca1e2eba.html
This was from September 2021. What am I missing?
Sorry. It’s what I’m missing. (your link [sorry, I don’t “subscribe” to get past a pay wall]).
Either way, I guess my more general point is ; I’m pretty sure Mr. Trump had an inkling of an idea what a pit of snakes politics was/is..
Yet, he pretty much singlehandedly executed a “friendly take-over” of the gopE.
It might have been different if he (Mr. Trump) had come in setting every deserving scumbag on fire on day one.
No, he “cajoles” people… HE TOOK OVER THEIR FRICKIN’ “PARTY”!!
I am willing to wait and see what he (Mr. DeSantis and the State Legislature) are going to accomplish in his 2nd term as Florida’s Governor before I make that jump.
I hope he is smart enough to not show all of his cards at once.
Best,
skipper
Sorry. I didn’t have a pay wall problem. I don’t subscribe, either.
The story is about the three of them attending the steak fry in Nebraska as “three of the 2024 contenders.”
“DeSantis, Cruz and Pence promise a Republican ‘revival’ at Ricketts’ event
Paul Hammel Sep 13, 2021.
I have to disagree with you at this time. I see him positioning himself with the decepticons who want Trump out. This is what I have a problem with. Actions speak louder than words.
I truly hope I am wrong!
I live in Florida I know our Governor he does not give the dems nothing. Just because he takes a picture means nothing. He has no Koch money. Why do you think Trump choose him. You could have had Putnam.
Oops, sorry again Ad Rem. Didn’t mean to flag. Trying to do this one handed after shoulder surgery😬Haven’t figured out how to unflag.
If you just hit it again, it should un-flag. However, no problem, it takes several flaggings before we get a report.
Ad rem!
Have I told you lately…? You’re the BEST!!!
skipper
Well that’s a relief because I seem to bump that flag all the time. Been wondering why I haven’t been scolded for it.
In my opinion, what is important relative to that photo and the above article is the fact that a photo having appeared online in September of 2021 cannot be related to an event that occurred last Friday of THIS year.
According to the Forbes article linked to below, the photo was ACTUALLY taken even earlier than September of 2021. Forbes says the photo depicts “Vice President Mike Pence with Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis at a Florida Coronavirus Response Meeting at the West Palm Beach International Airport on Friday, February 28, 2020.”
See 4 In 5 Americans Want Cities Quarantined In Case Of Coronavirus Outbreak (forbes.com)
As for the Federalist Society’s meeting last Friday, both Pence and DeSantis were invited and, both were scheduled to speak. However, so far, I have not been able to find any photos or reports of the two of them sitting together. That may have happened, or it may not have…
Either way, I would think the seating arrangements would have been decided in advance by the hosts. So, if Pence and DeSantis did in fact sit together or interacted in any other manner, that ALONE would not be suspicious, in my opinion.
I find it disturbing, too. I’m a DeSantis supporter, a Florida resident. It’s not a good look, for DeSantis. I’d like some clarification of DeSantis’s loyalties. The swam critter Pence, will hurt DeSantis politically.
Don’t forget Sen Tim Scott, being primed to run in 2024. How will DT’s senatorial endorsement of Scott affect things if he runs against Trump?
I dread the optics of a Trump vs Pence debate.
Politics is down stream of culture. Focusing now, on politics 3 years from now, is frankly silly.
And I say that as a lifelong political junkie; not because the politics will be very different in 3 years, but because guaranteed the CULTURE will be drastically different in 3 years, and politics will inevitably change as a result.
Pence is whistling in the graveyard, he and the Club are in self-delusion if they think they have an icecubes chance in hell of retaining their power and influence.
They are Ozmodius, “behold my works!”
Unfortunately, that’s where we are in SC. It’s those darn RINOs or a Democrat.
A Trump vs Pence debate might be interesting. Trump has many positive accomplishments that affected Americans on a daily basis. Pence has zilch. Pence endorsed Cruz in 2016. He has that going for him.
Mr. “Fly” will take care of that…
Would have been wonderful had DeSantis stood up during Pence’s speech and tell he was full of it. Or something to that effect. If you’re MAGA, why would you even attend?
Absolutely!
Sad. But good that DeSantis has been outted now instead of in 2024 or beyond.
So when is Pompeo making his move?
As soon as he gets his final instructions from the CIA.
Patience grasshopper. Politics is ALL about timing.
Mikey is waiting on something…..
I’m wondering if Pompeo is physically OK – saw him on one of the Sunday morning circuses and he did NOT look very well.
Bariatric surgery.
Matt Gaetz on Pence and also the Federalist society. Be sure to watch both videos.
https://warroom.org/2022/02/05/matt-gaetz-breaks-news-on-his-last-meeting-with-pence-before-jan-6/
Saw WarRoom with Steve Bannon & Congressman Gaetz:
Conversation on Mike Pence and his speech at the Federalist Society was artfully laid out. Congressman Gaetz, who I whole-heartedly support ($$$), laid out the MAGA position on Pence and Pence’s speech, and revealed what had happened at the White House the days and night before the Jan 6 debacle. It was quite revealing. It boiled down to – if Mike Pence had been honest with Trump, Gaetz, Navarro, and Marjorie Taylor Greene, they would not have tried to open a discussion on Jan 6 at the State Capital to go over the election fraud so as to send the electors back to the States and the protest would never had happened. The vote would have been done quickly and been over.
Gaetz finally laid out the truth about J6.
Catch Bannon’s WarRoom Podcast for Feb. 5, 2022.
Igby,
Judas Pence was a liar and a fraud the entire time he was VP. He always disliked President Trump, as did his wife. President Trump treated him far better than he deserved and his reward was to be knifed in the back by Pence. Hell will freeze over and the NHL will be televising playoff games live from there before I ever even consider voting for a traitor like Pence. Heaven help me, I would vote for a damned ‘Rat before I would vote for Judas Pence. THAT is how much I loathe and despise that treacherous, conniving liar.
WarRoom is like oxygen. As a conservative you cannot function without it. Treehouse, Epoch Times, ZeroHedge, Gateway Pundit… Bannon’s battle with McMasters shouldn’t have ended like it did. We all suffered for that.
Gawk.
Lil’ Marco won the GOP Presidential precinct caucus in Minnesota in 2016. I was grateful that our county was one of a handful that went for Donald Trump from the very beginning, but disgusted Minnesota went for lil’ Marco when most of the RINOs went for Lyin’ Ted.
30 Pieces Pence
Dirty Nikki
Cock-a-doodle Trey
Lil’ Marco –bubble boy
Tim Scott a Lindsey Graham lackey.
Tim Scott is a fake as well. South Carolina politics is a cesspool of corruption and payoffs.
I’m not sure I’m voting for federal offices anymore. I’ll vote for Trump, if he runs in 2024, but the rest of the Republicans aren’t worth a vote – even if it’s counted. They are no different from the Democrats and I’m sick of the GOP being controlled opposition while they do nothing for their actual voters.
vote for MArch 1st
and the Athens replay in ever location .
Yes, I listened to Rush for 30 years, but now I know that the GOP isn’t what I thought it was…on OUR side!
Savage and Coulter endorsed Desantis
Lulu,
That is what they want you to do. Don’t do it. Vote even if you have to hold your nose and throw up afterward. Write in someone if you find no one worth voting for on the ballot, but do not let them make you so disgusted you surrender your right to the ballot. A lot of good men died for you to have that chance. Don’t denigrate their sacrifice by wasting what they gave their lives for you to have.
Welcome to the club, we’re getting shirts printed, lol.
Only my caveat, since 2012 is that I will cast no vote for a RINO.
There are a slew of MAGA candidates running, in offices from dog catcher on up.
It is EASY to spot a Rino, and equally easy to spot a MAGA;Rinos have lost their camaflogue, and I and others have posted comments on how easy it is.
Support ALL MAGA candidates, with your $ and votes, and NO RINOS.
The old arguments for voting for the lesser of two weavils just don’t work, any more.
We have all seen the negative consequences of voting for the R “cause they are better than the Dem”, …
AND, we have all seen the price we pay, for focusing all our attention on the top of the ticket, at the expence of downstream races.
And for basing our votes on personality and bullshirt, instead of POLICY.
VOTE MAGA. NOT RINO.
Im voting for Desantis against Charlie Crist your nutts Crist will lock the State down
Will remember Mike Pence for one thing:
Selling out the Country on January 6, 2021.
He didn’t get to keep it all though as he had to fork over 10% to the Big Guy.
The GOP fully intend to keep PDJT out of the running in ’24. If they’re successful, it will be hard to get another true MAGA contender on the ballot.
The GOP are counting on that, so we end up with their candidate. I don’t know if there’s anyone working to prevent this from happening.
What would that ticket look like in a worst case scenario? Because I won’t vote for Pence, period.
I won’t vote for any of their corrupt uniparty sell-outs. I’ll sit home – I’m done voting for these liars.
The establishment is terrified of, and doing everything in their considerable power to protect the Rinos.
The GOPe has already shown, for those paying attention, that if a MAGA candidate survives the primary, despite splitter candidates, manufactured Oct surprises, etc they have no problem throwing the race to the dem, rather than letting the MAGA candidate win.
If THEY take that view, than why should we continue to fall for the foolish notion “you MUST vote for the R, even a Rino. Otherwise, you are letting the Dem win!”
Fine, if you rig the system so my only “choice” is between a Dem and a Rino!
Given the last couple of years, the worst thing for the Dems, is being in the majority, anyway.
Take the pledge: I will never again vote for a RINO. I made it in 2012, when for the first time since turning 18, I didn’t vote for POTUS.
I sleep better, knowing I didn’t vote for someone who will stab me in the back.
So if that happens, THEN begins the MAGA Party and the country-wide write-in ballot. And we’re going to have to BACK IT UP.
I would spend my whole “covid check” (if I had received one) on a “pie in the face” contractor for that gang.
What a bunch of blood-bags..
And some people say sex prostitutes have no honor.
It’s all relative.
They are overflowing with honor by contrast to these political prostitutes.
Alas, we hardly knew you, Guv’nor DeSantis, but sitting with the traitor, Pence, colors my opinion going forward.
DeSantis has always been a media creation.
it’s time people realize if politicians are the media darling
and the GOPe’s are a-Ok with them…. Then they are really swamp turtles on a post.
and no matter how great they sound or headlines they get.. everything they do
to get elected is all just dog and pony show.
Governor DeSantis is a darn good Governor. He has been under a lot of stress too. His wife just finished her Cancer treatments. Biden dumping plane loads of illegals in the middle of the night. Liberals here fighting him on masks, and shots etc. He has had his hands full. He is a good and fair man in all he does. We are proud of him.
Will trade Desantis for Cuomo in a wig hochul anytime.
Gotta show up to see what the enemy is doing. Don’t be so hard core.
I’m thinking you might be way underestemating Ron De Santis. He, like DJT, is hyper aware of how to play the game. I suspect De Santis has ZERO use for Pence, but is quiet and smart enough to play the proper optics. I trust De Santis will be the next Vice President, serving the President Donald J. Trump. De Santis has 3 kids way too young to live in the White House, so I think he is in no rush to get there.
Echo chamber alert… no one wants any of these clowns. Any conservative who voted for Bush, and Romney sees full well that that there in front of you is the defeatist garbage who will allow the middle class to be steamrolled just like all of the rest of these losers without a backbone have… Trump is the only way forward for now. It’s 2022. Start the list of the controlled opposition by name and who to actually support and vote for.
There has been talk of setting up a website by MAGA that lists all GOP split into: 1. RINO GOP and 2. MAGA GOP.
Those that are RINO GOP get no donations and no support from MAGA. Those that are MAGA GOP (Trump Supporters) will get our dollars and support.
Sort of like splitting into a subsidiary GOP with emphasis on supporting Trump & Trump-supporting politicians.
Maybe do some fund raisers for Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene’s SASSPAC.com which holds donations for America First (MAGA) candidates she is trying to primary.
We need more than the list of RINOs? Trump knows who to endorse and all we need to know is that his choice is perfect for us to help all we can to get those persons elected.
That is the best idea I have read for a long time. They need to get locals on the ground that can identify candidates for judges, school boards, and every other race. The impact would be huuuuge.
I likey. Let’s put the scrutiny on the club full scorched earth mode.
I pray this happens, Igby
Just another reason why I donate directly to the candidates I support. Never,ever give money to the GOP. Never. All RINOs.
2017 President Trump made Pence the Election Czar. Pence did absolutely nothing and closed up shop a year later. Pence didn’t get any state to clean up the voter rolls, he found no fraud in Hillary Clinton’s attempt to steal 2016. The Unifreaks “Russigate” rose to a fever pitch including a full fauxpeachment ( and acquittal)
Pence loaded his office with operatives, who leaked and attacked many on top of President Trump, including General Flynn and Ronny Jackson.— every time benefiting the Unifreaks.
President Trump also assigned Pence to to China Virus Task Force. Pence proved to be weak as President Trump was forced to get involved to meet Governors requests and needs, building ventilators and cleaning gear.. President Trump held daily briefings to force some very serious, honest information that would have seen the light with Pence and Fauci. The Lapdog Media went on their coordinated attack— preventatives and treatments were ridiculed— only the vax was acceptable. The vax hit right after the election. Fauci claimed Cuomo’s NY was the “Gold Standard”. Cuomo became the media darling with televised daily briefings that FOX happily covered. Pence was completely sidelined (protected).
FOX announced the AZ election for Biden, counting was shut down in every swing state, Unifreaks are now trying to change the rules for the VP— rules that Pence claims does not exist in the election certification process. He earned a special coin.
Today, Sunday shows demand all the Unifreaks kiss the Pence ring. The circle of protection for Pence has been formed.
There is a whole lot that went on that Pence was part of. I have no doubt like so many others he will be fully exposed, to the point that no honest person will look at him the same way…like the lapdog media
One more thing to note, the Pences (just like Nancy Pelosi) didn’t get Covid . So many Republicans did, including the President, First Lady Melania and their minor son, Barron, after attending the Rose Garden Announcement for SC Justice Amy Coney Barrett. The Trumps were supposed to have dinner at the Pence’s home when they tested positive, from there President Trump was hospitalized and Pence was on deck, perfectly healthy, untouched, and again fully protected.
Out it will come. Their own actions set it motion and they won’t be able to stop it. We won’t ever unsee their puppet strings, forget how they treated the citizens, selling out our country, allowing the intentional invasion on our own border, allowing billions of dollars and equipment but more importantly the lives and blood of our children sent to fight in their profit producing wars. It’s not an illusion they can control. We see it all.
DeSantis is supposed to a smart man. He has been a good governor, though a red flag is why he hasn’t pushed to make preventatives available over the counter. If he is hitching his wagon with the establishment, he is only cutting his own career possibilities short, but I’m certain, profitable.
Perhaps DeSantis should familiarize himself with the following.
“Honor is not to be won. It is only not to be lost”.
Obviously it’s to late for Pence.
But who prays for
SatanMike Pence? Who in the last year has had the common humanity to pray for the one sinner that needed it most, our one fellow and brother who most needed a honorable friend yet had not a single one, the one sinner among us all who had the highest and clearest right to every Christian’s daily and nightly prayers, for the plain and unassailable reason that his is the first and greatest need, he being among sinners the greatest?Mark Twain said that.
Pastor Jeffers just had a sermon about forgiveness.
If he said to forgive Pence, that was unforgivable.
Accountability First!
Forgiveness?
….Maybe.
OCN,
Sorry, bud, I’d just as soon see him in the deepest, hottest and most flesh-meltingly awful section of Hell, there to sit for eternity. I am not a merciful man and what he did to this nation merits mind-wrenchingly severe punishment. Remember–Dante reserved the Ninth Circle of Hell for such as Judas Pence.
I’m hoping it’s a #TrumpGreene2024 Dream Ticket
Hmm, now that’s an interesting perspective. I think she is worthy, but I just think DeSantis MORE worthy. There is still plenty of time for Greene to shine.
Pence was a nobody until Donald Trump showed up.
Pence is still a nobody, as far as I am concerned.
He’s not a nobody. No way. Pence is guaranteed a mention in history books for centuries. If America falls, he will be remembered for millennia. Sure, he’s not famous, just infamous. But he will be remembered.
The saddest thing about Pence is that had Trump been reelected, Pence could have had a shot at winning the presidency.
He’ll be remembered alright. . . .
Judas Iscariot
Benedict Arnold
Vidkun Quisling
Mike Pence
This explains the previous post today.
Maybe I’m not as slow as I thought I was.
Retired Magistrate here: I have a real problem with DeSantis sitting next to Pence, let alone DeSantis even being there. The Federalist Society certainly doesn’t represent “We the People” in any shape or form.
The only person who ever represented “We the People” in my lifetime was President Trump and to a certain extent, Ronald Regan, although after the attempted assassination of Regan he was never the same.
I know people in Florida think that DeSantis is wonderful and compared to our governor, DeWine, he is. However, to my knowledge DeSantis has never said anything about the stolen election. DeSantis also said he was going to do something about the antibody cocktail that Biden pulled; haven’t heard anything more about it. What happened to all the people in Florida who were sick with covid and waiting to get the treatment?
Unfortunately, DeSantis attending this meeting does not give me a warm and fuzzy feeling.
I don’t have that much of a problem with DeSantis not saying anything about the stolen election.
Sitting right next to Pence, and hence endorsing the stolen election, is quite another matter though..
Stretching a distinguished guests’ seating arrangement at a VIP dais into “endorsing the stolen election” baffles me.
From the look on DeSantis’s face, I see nothing that indicates he in any way is buying what Pence is hustling. Quite the reverse.
It was an event held in his state. His appearance there was likely more of a formality than any endorsement of what anyone there said.
We always have to keep our eye on any politician, but one appearence at an in state event doesn’t automatically toss overboard all the good work someone like DeSantis has done.
Okay, duly noted and so what?
DeSantis and Repubs better pay attention – they are gunning for him hard, with mass funding, voter role shenanigans, illegals pouring in secretly, and who knows what new methods of cheating being planned.
We lose gov, we become NY. This is not the time to be delusional, feel “untouchable,” and complacent.
Exactly, Marcia.
Yep. None of them talk about the law that controlled Congress’ meeting on 1/6, the Electoral Counting Act of 1877.
Under that law, the Veep may return specific contested States’ results back to that State Legislature for re-examination.
“Overturn” was never in the discussion.
Following the 1877 law was the question. These people distort the question. No surprise here.
And –
it is the State Legislatures that certify elections, according to the U.S. Constitution. Pence was asked to request those State Legislatures to double-check their work.
Pence knows that –
Pence’s speech sets up a straw man, sets up a lie about “overturn”. It was about double-checking obvious cases of fraud.
Pence is a world-class liar.
This is a cold Civil War, D.C. against the American people.
Likewise for Rubio. He’s repeating the distortion that the Uniparty is choosing to peddle.
Remember that State Legislatures certify electors.
Not Governors.
Not Secretaries of State.
They constantly lie, and Trump uses incorrect language, “overturn”.
The request was to SEND THE ELECTORS BACK FOR 10 DAYS to figure it out, NOT to Arbitrarily Pick and “overturn” Den slates of electors.
Pence lied in his letter.
Very deceitful and dishonorable.
One by one the people I was told to adore by Rush have been brought down. He was a Rubio fan and especially Bush II.
I have zero confidence in anything politically American any longer, if my prior posts haven’t made that clear. We’re in a circle —, concocting hopes for the one man the party will never let back in.
Any other suggestions? DeSantis is now “revealed,”so who else are you looking at?
Sorry, I meant that for OffCourse.
THIS ^^^^
No one who interviews Pence asks the right questions and he gets away with his straw man logic.
First Question set: Do you not agree that election integrity is absolutely essential as it represents the voice of the people, and the certification of an incorrect election outcome leads to the death of a functioning Republic i.e., if the legal votes of the people are not accurately counted, then there is no Republic? Do you think Joe Biden got 81 million legitimate legal votes? If Pence says “yes” then he’s not presidential material as he’s a village idiot and terminate the interview on the basis that his lack of critical thinking skills is beyond help. If he speaks of some election improprieties…then
Second Question set: How did you interpret six states sending two sets of electors? What was their reasoning? (Uh, we think this guy won, but we’re not sure, so we sent the other set just in case). Has that happened before and what’s the precedent for such situations?
Third Question Set: Though the Constitution is somewhat vague, you have maintained that through tradition and ceremonial law that you only certify the electors presented and did not have any authority to take any other action. However, you swore an oath to support and defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic did you not? Do you not agree that this is your primary task, above all others, and thus trumps (pun intended) tradition and ceremonial law? If you don’t believe Biden got 81 million legitimate votes, and you reviewed the significant and statistical evidence that support that thinking, and you see 6 states that demonstrate a lack of conviction in their sending of two sets of electors, would it not have been prudent to postpone the certification (defend the Constitution) and demand those 6 states first resolve their uncertainties?
Bonus Questions: As a Christ follower, do we not follow Truth (John 14:6) and therefore recognize the immense importance of truth? As a public servant, are not the people entitled to know the truth and is not the onus upon the government to prove the election was an accurate reflection of their voice as opposed to the people having to spearhead investigations into all the improprieties?
To be fair, the entire system failed from state legislatures, secretaries of state, governors, and the entire judiciary system. However, Pence was the last line of defense for our Constitution. He failed too and must be forced to acknowledge it.
Nicely written. Here is my take again perhaps just more simply stated:
My common-sense thinking is that an election not conducted properly under the law, cannot be settled properly under the law. If the election stands, we are no longer operating under law, we have undergone a coup d’état. Donald Trump intuitively understands this and Mike Pence does not. Pence was always too weak to serve as the “last line of defense” for the rule of law. Pence had demonstrated already as governor that he will bend and break easily.
Did DeSantis go to kiss the ring of the RNC club brass? Not sure about this one.
Is that you, Liz Cheney?
Or maybe John McCain? But I thought you were dead.
They just keep on twisting and playing with words. WE KNOW Pence couldn’t decide the President ON HIS OWN. We do know he could have thrown it back to the states to inspect the vote fraud, over-turn, and install the RIGHTFUL President!
Pence is a snake. The election results was a landslide victory by President Trump. It is Pence and the rest of the deep state who overthrew the actual election results.
Mike Pence has always been a phony charlatan. He’s a baptized and confirmed Catholic who pretends to be either an Evangelical Protestant or Traditional Catholic depending on the audience. While there are some similarities, the differences are stark enough that it is impossible to straddle the line between the two and maintain any credibility. Any man who lacks the conviction of the rightness of his faith and will waffle for political expediency cannot be trusted under any circumstance. Pence and his subordinates also undermined Trump’s America First agenda everywhere it mattered and were behind many of the leaks and actions that tied up his presidency. Reject the Jeb Bush of Nikki Haleys, phony Mike Pence.
Ever read up on Mike’s chief of staff, or his other office picks? Pence was surrounded by Nevers, and yet it was never called out. The CoS is the guy they say convinced Mike to confirm the electors. Mike was dirty from the get go.
Donald Trump built 100 story luxury hotels and condominiums all over the world and you called him a circus clown? What have you ever built besides a dog house!
CJ,
He probably hasn’t even done that, mainly because he is almost certainly not capable. He IS doing a credible imitation of a dog, however.
Whenever I see her, or watch her interviews, I always wonder who Margaret Brennan had to sleep with in order to get where she is.
Excellent video.
That man is David Icke.
An exceptional perspective on the origin of the alleged virus.
Here he is in a very informative video conversation with Dr.s Tom Cowan and Andrew Kaufman
Strongly recommended
A data point: White House/NSC have not produced a National Security Strategy document, something ordinarily done within the first 2-4 months of an administration. This means DOD cannot produce a National Defense Strategy document, JCS cannot produce a National Military Strategy document, and the military Branches cannot produce budgets with anything more solid than speculation. State and Treasury also cannot produce their counterparts to DOD’s National Defense Strategy document, etc.
Exactly right. We really are a country spinning out of control.
Have you observed our Secretary of Defense?
These people (Pence, Haley, etc) are so very out-of-touch, they embarrass themselves.
well, Trump will need a vice president-so let them play their silly games!
Worthless, lying, deceptive, spineless, dishonorable, traitorous, sell-out, slimeball, scumbag, treasonous filth from hell. F them. F them all.
Hathaway,
Just go away, contemptible disinformation-spewing fool. You are not wanted here.
It was like watching a swimmer in a fast river. He paddled and kicked but ultimately the flow overtook every effort. Trump had the right ideas, but not enough discernment. Yet the alternatives are so bad he is still revered out of the hope of a better second act.
So what is still intact from his four years that Biden hasn’t undone? SC justices? Never mind 🙁
The RNC could give a damn about what the average American thinks. They prove it over and over again.
Another Rino vs MAGA test question; “Did Pence have the authority to refuse to count the votes of electors and send the issue back to the States?”
Little Marcos answer is disengenuous; if none of the States submits TWO sets of electors, Karmala has no justification for not certifying Trump as POTUS in 2024.
He makes it SOUND, to idiots, like he wants PDJT to win in 2024, which as a Club member, terrifies him.
He really should consider retiring to spend more time with his family, before he ends up spending eternity with his ancestors,…politically speaking, of coarse.
I listened to the Pence speech and I conclude he is a confident, political blind man who loves God and his country.
He started off listing all the accomplishments during his time as VP and even managed to include Trumps name a few times. Truth be known, every accomplishment he named could not have been achieved without Trump. I think he knows that. Trump and Pence march to two different drummers.
In early 2020, Mike Pence was called upon to step out of his slavish trust in the good men and women who he believed surrounded him in Washington. As the Chair of the Presidents Coronavirus Task Force, he was called upon to go against the instincts that took him to the position he held. That was a tall order that he did not measure up to. He was in over his head and he could not see it. As a result, his leadership as the Chair of the Presidents Coronavirus Task Force was a disastrous failure and lead directly to to the destruction and mayhem which started then and continues today.
In January 2021, the country was again in a turmoil that he, Mike Pence, had initiated. He was once again, called upon, to perform an extraordinary feat and, for the same reasons as in 2020, he failed. He was in over his head and he did not see it.
No interest in anything Myopic Pence has to say. Every Trump supporter was leary of him from the start. He blew any trust in him following his actions on J6.
Im tired of all these political elites and their smug arrogant style
No trust. Zero!
Steal elections, send the sons of the Conservatives off to fight Tonkin wars, Uniparty never leaves power, wash, rinse, repeat.
RINO CRAP!
Sickening.
While we’re discussing Judas Pence. Let’s not forget that as Head of the Covid Task Force he elevated Fauci and Birx to their Dictatorship positions.
I am wondering why my reply to Greg McKinney on this page was deleted….I don’t believe I said anything out of line. AdRem?
The Federalist Society has a 99% failure rate when it comes to creating lists of judicial nominees. Supreme Court justices such as Clarence Thomas were complete flukes by the Federalist Society when most of the time, the society ends up recommending clones of John Roberts instead of clones of Clarence Thomas.
These propagandists make me sick…. media and politicians.
Never forget who the real Traitor Pence is.
Three part article. Links for part 2 and 3 at the bottom. Lots of good material America First can use against him.
Judas Mike Pence Joins Aaron Burr and Benedict Arnold, Part One – News With Views
And just think: The Federalist Society picked three RINOs for the Supreme Court.