The MAGA movement is a unified common sense political network. No one in the current GOP is ever going to win reelection without the support of the MAGA base and President Donald Trump. The GOPe is dead, they just don’t know it yet.
One example comes from Arizona where the republican party has voted to censure anti-Trump voices like Cindy McCain, Jeff Flake and Doug Ducey. The republican party is a Trump-centric operation now…. you are either with us, or against us. It matters not.
FOX NEWS – Arizona Republicans voted Saturday to censure Cindy McCain and two prominent GOP members who have found themselves crosswise with former President Donald Trump.
The censures of Sen. John McCain’s widow, former Sen. Jeff Flake and Gov. Doug Ducey are merely symbolic. But they show the party’s foot soldiers are focused on enforcing loyalty to Trump, even in the wake of an election that saw Arizona inch away from its staunchly Republican roots.
Party activists also reelected controversial Chairwoman Kelli Ward, who has been one of Trump’s most unflinching supporters and among the most prolific promoters of his baseless allegations of election fraud. (read more)
The GOP needs to be cleaned up not disposed of. It has a very rich history of civil rights that the demorats hate and that history as any marketing person knows has value. Just because it is hard to do does no t mean that it cannot be done. We have been down the 3rd party road and splitting the vote is a disaster and how we got Clinton. We all know the definition of insanity and a 3rd party fits that description.
That’s right, the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. We have done the same thing, clean up the GOP, fix it from within, etc, etc, ad nauseum until we’re all sick and tired of all the GOP supporters saying the same thing over and over again. No more. There is no fixing the GOP. People just don’t get it. There is no GOP. It’s an illusion. There is only one party in DC. You won’t fix it from within. You won’t save it. And every single attempt to do so will only get you more candidates like McConnel, McCain, Romney, Ryan, etc.
#WalkAwayGOP No more money , no more support to any of them. Let them come to US, never the other way around. Stop enabling corruption and greed by trying to fix the rot from within. Cut it out completely. 80 million people will never be a “3rd party”. Ever. But as long as people clamor and tie themselves to the corrupt, rotten, bloated, globalistic GOP, then the only thing that will happen is that the rot will spread.
Stop thinking “3rd party” and start thinking 80 million Trump Americans supporting qualified candidates. Because that 80 million isn’t just those from the GOP. It also includes Democrats and Independents. Or look at it this way … you think a “3rd party” fails? I say we already have a 3rd party and it’s a huge political block. It’s so huge that neither a Democrat nor a Republican can win without the support of this “3rd Party”. You know what that “3rd party” is? The Independents. Both Dems and Repubs, the MSM, and Big Tech all know that no politician can effectively survive national elections without pulling in the Independent votes. They just don’t want you to realize that.
Want to effect change? #WalkAway No more money and no more support. Make it clear that you’re leaving Dem or Repub base because you’re joining as Independent under President Trump’s blazing path to MAGA. If enough do that, it’ll do quite a few things. It’ll send even more paralyzing fear into Dems and Repubs. It’ll cut their monetary support by a good bit, which will drive even more fear into them. They’ll have a supremely hard time winning any national election and a good bit of State elections. And an enemy working from fear makes mistakes. We saw that from this past presidential election. Their fear caused them to go way overboard in their fraudulent activities. (That’s a completely different subject.) They make huge mistakes.
#WalkAway Don’t repeat the insanity of trying to fix the GOP.
Every human institution needs to be cleaned out from time to time. This is because of human nature. Corruption is inevitable. Greedy sociopaths will always gain power and abuse it, it’s what they do. Simply creating new institutions everytime an old on becomes corrupt is not a viable solution.
Benjamin Franklin said we have a Republic, if you can keep it. He knew that tyrants would always find ways to gain power, and people don’t always have the will to fight against it. All it takes is courage.
It’s time for us to take a good hard look at ourselves. Are we willing to take over the committees and become chairmen and put up with the awfulness of party politics? Fight for fair and free elections, no matter what the cost? Are we willing to be smeared and lose income, be the target of personal attacks and abuse? If we can endure these things, we have a chance.
Whether to change the GOP from within or start a new Party, the American Party, is a difficult but necessary choice. You need to weigh the impediments the Dems and the Rinos have written into law to prevent competition vs. starting from a clean slate, where moles and deceivers cannot create impediments.
What Rinos and the Dems gloss over at their peril, is the Trump voter isn’t just voting for Trump, but for the ideas he has championed. These are ideas long discussed outside the Corrupt City on the Potomac.
We have witnessed a generation of decline in America, now at an accelerating pace. Fighting back means losing jobs, but creating new ones. Losing “friends” who really were just acquaintances. Losing the chattering noise of Propaganda, while embracing the quiet, strong sound of Truth.
President Trump must become the Statesman, the unshakable Center of Decency. His is the hardest of decisions. Run again for President or build the foundation (maybe both) of an American Party (perhaps both), one which at it’s core, represents the People, not the Corrupt and Corruptible.
p.s. any ideas for putting sand in the gears of the MSM and Internet Monopolies are welcome.
Well…… “They” have domino voting machines ‘they’ don’t give a damn about how we vote!
We voted for President Trump what good did it do??????
Perhaps next election white hat hackers could give every Patriot candidate an insurmountable (impossible) lead and then the Dems might be amenable to election security. It’s a thought.
We’d all end up in Jail, convicted of voter fraud. The law ONLY applies to us.
Which is exactly why it’s good that Trump plans to focus on “election integrity” and work within variouso States to get Laws passed that will restore and protect our elections’ integrity.
Otherwise, you’re correct. With the “special” software the Dims (and Pukes) have access to in many places, they no longer need ANY voting block. They can just choose who “wins” and that’s what the machine will spit out. (I know. I’m a computer programmer.)
Everyone needs to focus on their state and election laws. Dems are going to continue to get things to their benefit. A lot are already fighting them. They need all the support they can get. Dems have been trying to force mail-in-voting in Texas. We fought them and just won in the Supreme Court. It can be done and needs to be done.
One way to counter fraud within computer systems is laws for audits. Getting forensic audits was a problem for Trump. Every company that is traded on the stock exchange has to have a CPA audit of their financial records. Those are more complicated data collections but the principles and problems are the same. Procedures are similar as well. I am not a CPA but was a corporate accountant years ago. I was shocked at the sloppiness and carelessness in the whole voting process. We need something like those independent CPAs with their audits and their accounting guidelines for conducting them. The expertise is out there in that profession. Voting is a much simpler process than what corporations manage.
The good guy doesn’t always win in life. You don’t give up the war when you lose a battle.
When I took my Master Gardener course, they taught us that if a lawn has over 50% weeds, you cannot just reseed over it and expect it to grow. You have to tear out the whole thing and start all over. This 3rdparty discussion reminds me of this axiom.
I disagree. The party is not Trump, McConnell, McCain, whoever. The party is its voters. We elect people to represent us. We do not elect them to become permanent members of the ruling class and do as they choose, untouchable. When our representatives forget that fact and begin to represent something else, they need to find new voters, like in the other party they have already joined in thought and action. I think cleaning house in the GOP is a better solution than forming a third party. But should the latter become necessary, then so be it.
If the reform of the Republican party is the solution, it has to happen quickly and without delay.
The next thing that is going to occur is the attack on red states, the changing of their election laws, etc. Some of our state legislatures controlled by “Republicans” are NOT safe, as we’ve seen in the “swing” states, and are arguably fine with mass mail-in ballots, unsecured ballot dropoffs & the Secretary of State & election officials going outside the state election laws and processes. If the Uniparty can change the “process” in swing states without the legislature, they will do it. Georgia is a prime example.
I agree and start in Kentucky to get rid of McConnell. I remember the rally Trump had there. The people there were wild with enthusiasm for Trump, McConnell was there looking like a fish out of water with a stupid grin on his face. Just an old frump! I hope the voters there vote him out when the time comes and a real Trump supporting Rebublican will take Mitch’s place.
I agree completely. Yes, it will be expensive, time consuming, and difficult, but all worthy tasks are. No one waisted any effort trying to”fix” the Whig party in the 1850’s. They had become a group of unprincipled placeholders out for their own benefit at all costs. Look around today, what do you see in the Republican party? It has become the same.
Too much rot. Read below:
dmk: “@timr @Spart_A_Cuss @AngryDuey @watch4thedrop @dr…” – QuodVerum Forum
You keep reminding us of 1992. But we need to direct your attention back to 2020.
There was no third party in 2020 to blame things on. What did the GOP get us in 2020? The GOP got us Joe Biden.
Don’t blame the voters: Turnout was high, but not enough to overcome the election fraud which the GOP never bothered to help eliminate.
We don’t need a third party. We need a second party.
The GOP has no constituency.
January 22, 2021, 6:56 PM · Tusky · 2 · 2 · 5
States need to add RECALL to senators and reps. Start recalling. They might begin to state behaving.
Congress critters can be expelled and impeached, not recalled. So we have to expose their corruption and drum them out of office. Tall order? I think not.
There are ~250M adults live in the US. There are ~1,084 elected to federal office. The ratio is in our favor. Raft together with true conservatives and divvy up the work. We can do this if we pray and dig for the truth. Gab has an OSINT group – start there.
Clouthub has groups set up by states. They do not seem to active yet but the concept is great as a way to share info in states.
Carly, I admire your industriousness, however, since the members of the body are the only ones who can expel another member and since most of them are corrupt, there may be a problem. Not to mention, it can take months and months for these yo-yos to schedule anything they don’t want to do.
One-third of the senate is up for reelection every two years and all of the house. I think your project might be better served by finding a good primary candidate, giving him the dirt and volunteer to help count votes. 🙂
You vote RINOs out. Also, watching legislation and what they do closely and calling their offices has wonderous effects when done by a large group of voters. Cheney was hiding and emerged here a day or two ago. Censorship has her face quite strained. And DC should not be the only focus. I thank God right now especially that I live in Texas and have leaders fully committed to fighting new rules and regulations coming from democrats and Biden. The bigger your army, the better.
You cannot out-primary McConnell’s cronies as long as McConnell controls his share of the Uniparty in the Senate. He spreads the Republican party money for Senatorial candidate to his cronies, not to new candidates, in primaries.
While Kevin McCarthy worked hard on turning around seats we lost in 2018, he & Steve Scolise have done NOTHING to keep Pelosi from passing House Rules that essentially take House Republicans out of ANY ability to challenge anything, introduce bills & resolutions & participate in hearings. .
You can tell Freedom Caucus members are losing head steam. Some rookie Republicans are banding together as their own “squad.” But they’re not going to get any media attention.
Yep, we have to strategize on many fronts. We need to dig in and reinforce in place where we have the advantage, like Texas, Florida, etc.
Louis Genevie: You don’t. Instead, you abandon the Party and leave the RINOs behind.
You cannot. Its their club, we aint in it.
It is not splitting the vote when 74 million voters move to the NEW party. The GOP does have history.. The Demoncrats labeled the GOP years ago and that is how it is recognized by the potential converts to conservative values and voting. Let the GOP die it own death and embrace a new beginning of a party yhat only has MAGA as its platform.
Please reread the first paragraph of Sundance’s post and study a little history!
Teddy Roosevelt’s Bull Moose party brought Woodrow Wilson to power, Ross Perot’s attempt put Clinton in office; neither one had a majority of the vote! If you want ensure the DemoKKKrats never lose another national election just follow that path! Those of us, like Mary, who can multi-task, will push for election reform/ID AND pushing the RINOs out of the party! If you can’t hack being in a war to preserve civilization get yourself a box of tissue and get out of the way! Your using up valuable space and oxygen with your whining!
Important:
What we call “election reform” and what they call “election reform” are two totally different things.
And THEY ain’t about to let YOU reform the GOP .They can control every thing you say and do.
So the reports were at MANY of President Trumps rally’s there were over 25% Democrats attending. In addition there were a lot of people who were either First time voters or people that had not voted in a very long time.
I think getting these people to join the Republican Party after what the Republican Party did in this election is basically not going to happen.
Besides that, 100% of the Senators and 75%, of the House of Representatives are Corrupt RIMO’S so there is nothing to save. Move forward with the Patriot Party with the Lion as our symbol!!
We all have to get involved, it will have to be driven from the bottom UP!!!!
The big money donors have and will continue to control the Republican Party.
Screw THEM
And the GOP brought Obama and Biden to power.
The key to understanding your comment is this, in essence, we are “whining.”
That’s a very low opinion and totally dismissive of those people here who contribute to the debate.
Maybe you’re just in a bad mood. Who can blame you.
Personally, I’d be much more willing to read and consider your comments if you’d foreswear the unnecessarily demeaning comments aimed at our fellow treepers.
Think of the FOP as a large, splendid mansion with white columns, sweeping circular staircases and multiple rooms. But this mansion is–and has been for many years–infested with various pests and insects. The years of this infestation has made the structure unsound–indeed unsafe.
This mansion, in spite of its appearance and grandeur, is structurally unsafe, unrepairable and in need of demolition lest its infestation move to other structures. The house must be demolished and the debris burned to destroy the pests.
Let’s demolish it and rebuild it with a stronger foundation. We will still be Republicans, but without the filth.
Our founders hated political parties. Parties are not mentioned anywhere in the constitution. A MAGA, America First party is needed to fight the CIA/communists. I dumped my Republican affiliation after George “read my lips, no new taxes” Bush gave Ted Kennedy a huge tax increase. Nothing has changed!!! Eff the Republican party!!!
Exactly. There are an abundance of metaphors that apply.
We wouldn’t put a thick layer of good paint over the rot and prop up sagging beams with new beams.
You wouldn’t give money to a profligate spender or gambler. That’s called throwing good money after bad.
And Jesus gave us this parable, which makes the biblical case of practicing such foolishness. Don’t put new wine in old wineskins. The new wine splits the old wineskins, which are not pliable, spoiling the new wine.
These are examples from the physical realm. But if we also desire success in the spiritual realm — we long for the blessings of God — we will heed these warnings, lest we flounder and fail, flounder and fail.
To add, and this is critical, I perceive our form of government as having the pliability of new wineskins with structure that is enduring. Its design was divinely inspired, though the founders had feet of clay.
God grant me the serenity
To accept the things I cannot change;
Courage to change the things I can;
And wisdom to know the difference.
Living one day at a time;
Enjoying one moment at a time;
Accepting hardships as the pathway to peace;
Taking, as He did, this sinful world
As it is, not as I would have it;
Trusting that He will make all things right
If I surrender to His Will;
So that I may be reasonably happy in this life
As a master carpenter I beg to differ with your analogy! The stately old mansion is infested with pests and insects alright, but a can of bug spray and a little broom or a mop action will send most of the vermin scurrying for cover! We have the skills and technology to completely rebuild the structure while adding modern innovations! Donald Trump is in the process of remaking the party as a populist party for American workers and small businesses. Why not help him with that instead of throwing out the GOP and probably the US of A in a fit of justifiable anger! Focus your anger on the war and the battles ahead!
Let’s make transparency and election integrity part of the Republican platform; let the DemoKKKrats run on crime and corruption! Please stop jumping into the circular firing squad and help us slow down and reverse the ship of state that has been hijacked by the crooks and crazies!
Termite damage can be severe enough that the damage cannot be reversed. But I won’t quibble with you, my point is this; the Republican party cannot be reformed because those controlling the party don’t want it reformed–even if it means being in the minority in perpetuity.
All the GOP needs is a flicker of life from the “Let’s make transparency and election integrity part of the Republican [Party] platform.” NONSENSE.
Really? For how many decades has this “noble” idea hit the skids in the face of reality: the GOP WANTS no change. It’s peachy keen to PROTECT its favored gravy train and brooks no naive upstarts whose aim is to topple it.
You think you can reform the GOP? Well, we’ve been trying to for more than 3 decades.
They have ALWAYS outsmarted us by promising what they have no intention of delivering, by making sure we know that if we don’t support it WE HAVE NO WHERE ELSE TO GO.
THOSE DAYS ARE OVER.
I KNOW THAT THE GOP are masters of deceit and cunning. Would a third party be any different? Only if we look with a prescient eye to the horrors facing us and gird up our loins to face off against it.
Remember when Mitch told the GOP Senate not to challenge the fradulent election? Babies are going to die for Biden being President. If it had been legally done I coulda been patient along the lines that following the law and duty gives glory to God sometimes in its own way. But it wasn’t.
It was just high level uselessness. I have no use for such a GOP.
of interest, aborted children are as we all know likelier to be poor, likelier to be female, likelier to be sick, and taking it all in around the world, likelier to be unfavored ethnicities – Uyghur, tiny tribes, etc. McConnell is just one more person who is OK w them being disappeared.
God is clear about the mantel placed on leadership. The roles are not to be entered lightly. And if the people clamor for an ungodly leader, then the people will live under the chains of that leadership until, like children, they cry out for Abba to deliver them.
But this election was stolen. Wholly different that people choosing. God will not stand for the seats of power to be stolen, for the power of a nation to subvert its people for oppression and war. He always crushes those who defy His authority.
I believe God will crush the CCP (and those enabling it) and free the Chinese people. There are so many who love Him but have to worship and study in secret and fear. The CCP is rewriting God’s Word, for example, changing the story of the adulterous woman, where Christ says to the crowd, “Let he without sin cast the first stone,” and to the woman, “Go and sin no more.” In the CCP’s version the savior stones the woman! Imagine the wrath the CCP is inviting.
Bingo! I’ve been saying since November, either this thing was legitimate and this is the will of the people (which I don’t believe) or this was stolen. If the latter then nothing short of divine intervention will fix it. I believe good people across this country came out in mass to try and re-elect president Trump – understanding the game that was afoot, but it mattered not because fraudulent means were used to ensure his defeat. All the legal challenges were shut down in the courts without any real consideration and when people tried to peacefully protest all he$# appears to have broken loose, which will keep people from now attempting to do so again. As I see it we have no legal or constitutional recourse sadly. If they can steal this election without legal recourse, what’s to stop them from stealing every election hereafter – short of God.
IMO you are giving up too easily. The powers in charge of the GOP are not going to let us reform it. Even if we manage to get a couple of OUR choices installed, they will be marginalized. Personally I think the entire DC government machine, including SCOTUS has taken America over the cliff and more is needed than just reform or a 3rd party. The oligarchy is in charge and there are too many citizens that support it. Their values are diametrically opposed to our founding principles and to the Constitution. It is time for separation, like a divorce when a marriage is irretrievably broken.
non sequitur, we already got biden, and we haven’t even split
3rd party- that was then – this is now. I understand you thinking about third party disaster…
While doing research I read many sources which stated that Independent voters are a larger percentage than either Republican or Democrat.
And I now am PND on my voter registration as of Jan 7th. PartyNoDesignation.
I do believe Independent voting block has increased substantially since November!
OAN yesterday was running a clip of a Dan Ball interview with a gent in AZ talking about how they are going to do a full investigation of the machines, and the people in charge of them in AZ say they will only let the “certified” EAC folks do it.
IF you are in AZ, that should be a SOLID NO WAY!
You cannot let the foxes certify that the hen house is safe. The foxes are the problem. They are why we are in this mess. THEY COLLUDED with the enemies, ALL of them, ESPECIALLY BIG TECH, and we need to do away with the EAC and the CISA. They all need to be ousted. ALL OF THEM. The sooner, the better.
If you need proof, just ask. I have plenty.
Here is an interview with AZ Senator by Prescott, AZ enews on where the election fraud investigation stands (as of Saturday, January 23, 2021)
https://youtu.be/dXrpxCXCMIs
Thank you for sharing this!
We can NEVER allow unobserved counting and auditing again. There needs to be independent audits that check each other. There is ZERO reason to give any of these people our trust right now.
Good morning, all! Logging in.
“you are either with us, or against us. It matters not”. I love it! And we must be wise enough to know which candidates are pretending to be with us but in reality are Uni-party, deep state, globalists and we must be strong enough not to put them in office even to keep a Democrat from attaining that office because that is where the deep stater’s always gain and keep power .We must make no concessions as to whom we vote for.
We must not fail in getting Maga candidates in the running for that position even if they have to run under another party or have to run in the primary as the opponent of the deep stater. Our fight will be fierce in getting MAGA candidates in the running so we can even have the possibility to vote for them.
Our money will speak volumes to the Republican Party only if we keep it in our pocket and greatly affect that party’s revenues and give our donations to the candidate only and not through the GOP. If the candidate has no way of receiving donations except through the GOP then I’m not giving. Period! So maybe there should be a central bank account set up by MAGA supporters to take donations for MAGA candidates. I would give to that but I personally will not give donations or support the current iteration of the Republican Party any more in any way. I’ve been a registered Unaffiliated voter for 20 years but I’ve always voted Republican in the primaries and elections. That stops as of the betrayal of President Trump by Republican elected officials
If we are to overtake the R party with our cause that has to start immediately. These are good signs providing hope. Channeling our anger into action. Participation and demonstration at the local and state level, within the party and at political events, will show that we will not be Nazi suppressed by the Dim totalitarians nor the R oligarchy. If they scuttle us as Uniparty, the Patriot Party will shift from a movement into a full fledged 3rd party and gut both parties (drawing Americans from both parties, Main Street, rural, suburbanites who care about their nation, multi-racial).
https://www.theepochtimes.com/sidney-powell-launches-super-pac-to-fight-vigorously-for-our-constitutional-rights_3668440.html
Don’t give a dime to the GOP, RNC
Thanks for posting! This is the way to go, without a doubt.
Trying to start a viable third party would be political suicide for the MAGA movement.
I see it the opposite..it would give us power.
little flower- have you ever worked on the local level to get someone elected in your town or county?
Are you at all involved with your local GOP or other party? Are you familiar with your state Board of Elections and the requirements to start a new party?
Are you familiar with the timelines and deadlines for filing petitions, having caucuses and getting candidates on the ballot in your state and town?
If you answered NO to any of those questions then, respectfully, you don’t know what you are talking about.
Those who no longer support the GOP support a true “second” party.
Sundance, I notice from the FOX News article that you posted they continue to say “promoters of his [Trump’s] baseless allegations of election fraud.”
They look at they same facts and see nothing. Willful blindness. Just like CNN.
They are paid and promoted NOT to look at facts, but to regurgitate the propaganda fed to them daily by the media puppet masters. Ths media has become a dull palette ? consisting on one color…Grey. 《 bleh》
“These 6 corporations control 90% of the media outlets in America. The illusion of choice and objectivity”
https://techstartups.com/2020/09/18/6-corporations-control-90-media-america-illusion-choice-objectivity-2020
As of September 2020, the 6 media giants are ATT (bought Time Warner), CBS, Comcast, Disney, News Corp (the parent company of Fox News), and Viacom.
It is so cute watching republicans talk like they can reform politics in America when the CIA control the outcome.
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You want your freedoms back? Leave the GOP to their swamp and prepare for the fight that absolutely must happen before you can be free again…
Taking over the party is the best bet. There are a few thousand entrenched politicians at the top, but there are millions of rank-and-file. It is the local machine politics that get out the vote and make certain those red counties stay red. These people are just like us. They are conservatives that want to win and will back any conservative on the ballot. We take over the party from the local captains and work up. The notional embarrassments will get out of the way or get defeated. It will be a slow tough battle, but it is a battle that can be won.
The second phase of that is to have enough brave ones elected to make our elections honest again.
Vibe- great comment. You sound like you know what you’re talking about.
It won’t work. The rot is too entrenched.
THAT ATTITUDE ENSURES IT STAYS THAT WAY
After Ron Paul’s zombies nearly took over several Republican Party state chapters when Paul last ran for president, the national organization made structural changes to prevent rear-guard takeovers (for instance, the Tea-Party) of state chapters.
Disagree with everyone on this thread who says the GOP can be reformed or taken over from the bottom. It can’t. It must be eclipsed and left for politically dead by the rise a true, second political party.
I agree with your sentiment. I am still angry that in 2016, the Rs choose to not allow the primary in CO. They invoked some abscure rule to shut down the possibility that Trump would win.
But what they really did: SHUT DOWN MY RIGHT TO CHOOSE AND SAY MY CHOICE.
I am shocked to this day that such a violation of freedom would occur. But now, we’ve had an election stolen and the Judiciary has told me that I HAVE NO STANDING TO COMPLAIN AGAINST THIEVES.
My anger is compounded.
Max, I’m with you.Not interested in moving around the deck chairs on the SS Titanic(GOP).
I agree with you.
Probably depends on the state?
FormerDem, as private organizations the political parties can and do make and change rules in their state to keep outsiders out. In effect, they are monopolies. I don’t understand why it’s allowed.
An expose to allow the average citizen to understand what they are and how they operate would really make people angry.
Heck, I’ll run!!!
I wanted to get into politics when I was in high school, college but didn’t know how. I lived in a very small town, very rural, no help, was told I was stupid or delusional and not wealthy enough.
That is one AICK article, do full of b.s. you can cut it with a knife. Circular b.s. spin game, nothing more than PURE PROPAGANDA.
What is AICK? I searched it and found nothing applicable.
Maybe sick?
Oh, I assumed it was an acronym. 🙂
SORRY!
That is one
AICKSICK article,doso full of b.s. you can cut it with a knife. Circular b.s. spin game, nothing more than PURE PROPAGANDA.I think we’re all going to need to contact our state GOP leaders and make them aware that certain current office holders will not be re-elected if they didn’t support Trump! In Ohio I know Rob Portman is vulnerable for not supporting PDJT & Gov DeWine as well. The new head of state DEM party is already saying they’re going to be going after both! I know I won’t be voting for Portman; DeWine I’d only vote for if absolutely necessary! Ohio GOP needs to convince Portman to retire (for the good of the party) and find a Trump loyalist to run, that MAGA supporters would trust. It would be great to start a new party but I don’t feel confident it would work! The Dems are already starting to work on flipping GOP states. Is anyone else feeling this way?
Ann- I have worked in local politics here in NY for over 30 years. I ran for office a few times (unsuccessfully) and helped many good people get elected in my town, county and state. I know how the machine works.
The vast majority of Republicans in our small towns and counties are loyal to our President Trump. In fact, most of the counties in NY State are solid Red Repub. I have no doubt that my state isn’t really Blue/Dem but has been corrupted by election fraud.
There is no time to start a third party. Anyone who even suggests wasting time and effort on this is fiddling while Rome burns.
Our President Trump is the Commander in Chief of the GOP. And he has 100 million voters who will follow him. Please people, do not destroy his legacy!
We are told that NYC region is the reason NY is blue. Is this not true? I have wondered if there were not 2 NYs?
You are correct- there are actually TWO New York states. The Downstate region is majority Commie Democrat- NY City, Nassau County, lower Westchester and Rockland counties. Upstate the vast majority vote Republican.
The only reason my state in “Blue” is because they been rigging elections for over 100 years. Think of Tammany Hall.
If they’ve been rigging elections in NY for over 100 years, and they are now rigging elections in enough states to guarantee victory every presidential election cycle then it seems the whole conversation here is moot no? Fix the R party, start a new party of this name or that, it matters not. If you can’t stop the fraud in NY for 100 years why should I believe there’s a path to fix it nationally (NY included)? I don’t mean to be pessimistic, but you are someone who is heavily involved in politics and even though there are, in your estimation, more republicans in NY you can’t win anything of significance and NY is called literally the second that polls close every four years. This doesn’t bode well for the nation IMHO.
I’m not voting for another republican based on the “must” test. I will vote in republican primaries to get rid of traitors. I already told Portman I would donate to and vote for anyone who primaries him.
I guess that ambassadorship to Great Britain is off the table for McCain? It was, as I read, offered to her for giving Arizona to the newly installed president.
https://www.businessinsider.com/cindy-mccain-ambassador-to-united-kingdom-biden-john-mccain-2020-11
When I lived in Phoenix I worked in a retail store that was right next door to the wealthiest home owners in the Phoenix area. Celebrities, politicians, business owners, fake news reporters , wealthy foreigners etc shopped there.
Cindy McCain was a customer as was the states GOP top brass.
Cindy McCain was not nice and the head of the state GOP was worse than McCain.
penny, why would it be off the table, she delivered?
To save the GOP we must first get rid of Mitch McConnell. As now the minority leader he still “raises” more money from lobbyists and their ilk that is spent on re-election campaigns. Without that money, the bottomless pockets of the corrupt Democrats will continue to win elections.
That is the biggest problem. Mitch can raise money from the techs with a phone call and a promise to sell his capacity to them.
But but we can keep Mitch and pass up the democrats and independents who would flock to a new party in order to keep the name Republjcan!
…and Ben Sasse, and Mitt Romney, and all but three or four of the current crop of Republican Senators.
Bob- here is a great article from someone who agrees with you:
https://thefederalist.com/2021/01/22/mitch-mcconnell-needs-to-go/
Anyone on here that lives in Texas, please contact Allen West, the Republican Chairman and ask him to censure the Republicans in Congress and John Cornyn that voted against President Trump, especially John Cornyn. I believe Trump won by 6% in Texas. Cornyn works for us not himself. I’ve already contacted Governor Abbott, Mr West and several other people in the Republican Party of Texas. If something isn’t done to stop these politicians then we may be doomed. Someone at a high level has to have the courage to do something.
Texas here. Any idea where to find how the state reps voted? I know Chip Roy and Tony Gonzales voted against PDJT. Probably many more. Problem is, is Abbott was voting, he prob would’ve voted against, too. Alan West probably has a LOT of RINOS to contend with. Follow the money…..it’s behind the Rinos.
Now for the bad news: Thanks to Dominion Voting Systems, the Democrats don’t need voters anymore.
Exactly!!
Dominion isn’t everywhere yet. One more election cycle and they mighta been unstoppable but they aren’t yet.
btw they are suing everybody who finds fault with them. I wonder whether it would be a longer-term approach, to make the point, no touch-screens, instead of no Dominion.
To me it seems we can point to Dominion’s own lawsuits and the process now to unfold, as rock solid proof that these are black boxes, which nobody really understands. We can extract the very evidence and ask people, do you know what that means? OK, then that is what we call a black box. Nobody really knows what is happening. Incompatible with elections that are fair and seen to be fair.
When Dominion sighs, rolls their eyes, and tells people they don’t understand thisnthat, and comes out with some stream of tech incomprehensibility, we should just make a montage of it.
Yep….I’m hoping to get one of these machines for Christmas – if we have a Christmas. Great stocking stuffer.
Are you sure Arizona ‘inches away from its staunchly republicans roots’? Or did those stuffed ballot boxes and sharpie pens have anything to do with it?
Symbolic gestures.
That is right up the RNC and CoC alley.
They will talk a good game. Just like they did to the tea party reform movement.
Looks like Ducey has his tail between his legs and giving up on the people.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/01/saving-time-money-az-governor-ducey-says-wont-run-us-senate-2022-losing-red-state-democrats/
eGOP really REALLY don’t want Trump to start a party. Could this be merely a bone or two tossed our way to satisfy our frustrations long enough to prevent Trump starting a party of OUR own? Don’t take the bait.
Trump has the money to do it.
I’m concerned the deep state is in the process of burning up Trump’s fortunes. The deep state is not through with DJT.
In 2016, Trump was victorious despite being outspent by the left. Don’t forget, in 2020, Trump was also victorious (in truth), despite 4 years and millions of dollars spent, globally, to unseat him.
Do you not see God’s hand in all this?
God is greater than mammon.
I used to stress about political fundraising numbers. On the one hand, sad that the race demands so much money that could be better spent on the poor. On the other hand, seeing how wealthier forces could so easily crush the citizens’ will.
But after Trump and his victories, which are credited to God, I no longer worry. I laugh, in fact, and say, go ahead throw your money away–God will recirculate it back in the economy, where it can benefit some poor soul. The wrong shall fail but be blinded to the causes, and pour out more money.
Yup. remember this tweet?
“It is not enough to simply beat Trump. He must be destroyed thoroughly. His kind must not rise again.”
— David Plouffe (@davidplouffe
President Trump lost a lot of money being president and now the Dems are trying to bankrupt him.
The Art of the Comeback. Trump is the man for our time.
Don’t be talked into 3rd party, it takes real money and many years to do this. No, the GOP is the party of Trump now, they just don’t know it yet. You are the Trojan Horses now. Get busy,get active locally and shape change the GOP into the party YOU want it to be.
And keeping with the GOP, the same people on top will be pulling the levers of power. Whoever is the majority/minority will have to deal with the COC, Defense industries, Big Agriculture, and thousands of other PAC’s. Special interest money has to stop. Either you cut off the money spigot, or get used to the SAME OLD SAME OLD. Better to burn the whole damn thing down and start over. It does not matter if you are a Democrat or Republican.
Mathew 6:24 “No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money.
Getting to the top of the GOP is an easier climb. Look at the PPC in Canada! The breakaway Conservative Party will not see power for years and years, frankly if ever. Squeeze out the Rinos. It is your best bet.
Ross Perot did not take years and he did have money and got on all the ballots and had a good chance until they threatened his family and he dropped out. He still won Maine.
I support third party…doing what you suggest fits the devinition of insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.
Teaparty tried it and their candidates are all traitors.
Perot gave us Clinton. I think remaking the GOP is the better way than a third party
Arizona is doing it right now! Work together with stealth and conviction. You can do this, just like the DNC flip.
Or AZ is corralling sheep, counting McConnell’s gray hairs and thinking our anger will die out as they retire. No. We need to pray for discernment. No new wine in old wineskins. No good money after bad. No propping up their rot.
Like the freed Israelites, looking back over their shoulders. Let’s return to Egypt! At least we knew what every day would bring! They didn’t beat us all the time!
God bless Arizonan MAGA patriots!
They have shown the way forward…..take over the GOP apparatus and enforce MAGA principles and purge all the anti-Trump voices.
This is what needs to happen. Not running off to build castles in the sky, some call third parties.
I hate to say this but since when do voters matter? When people can get illegally elected what the voters think no longer matters.
Exacty, I know many people here that have left Republican Party and will never vote again.
They will be back. They have to, they have no choice.
I always have a choice. I can remain the Independent I have just become and still vote in the general election. Trump will not run again under this current rigged system. Any maga candidate who is put forth within the Rep party will not make it because the power is with the financial machine.
I expect the maga people elected in this last cycle to be set to the curb.
We’ll see about that.
Be back for what? More phony elections?
This should be our number one priority.
Elections are run by the state. We need good state and local leaders to ensure legal elections.
We need to demand paper ballots, voter ID, and in person voting.
We not only need to know the candidates running for office, we need to know the staff they intend to take with them. Staff are the gatekeepers.
Voting machines and counters are the real gate keepers!
The “Republican Party” has been successfully infiltrated by the communists/Dems. The only way to “clean it up” is to get a new, TRUE MAGA candidate voted in to replace any of the old. But then……the voting is rigged and run by the Communists anyway so…..
The national Republican HQ controls state party chapters. It was done to keep Tea Party supporters and Ron Paul Libertarians from taking over state party leadership positions. Those controls are still very much in place.
The Republican Official Narrative:‘He Did It In One Day’: Reince Priebus Says Joe Biden Is Uniting The Republican Party With His Executive Ordershttps://dailycaller.com/2021/01/22/one-day-reince-priebus-joe-biden-uniting-republican-party-executive-orders/
This has cemented for me that it would, at best, take years to reform the Republican Party.
Here’s the thing I see: many at the local levels, who understand how the system work, would migrate from the Rs to maga. This would cut off their legs – transfer the foundation as it were.
Maybe I am wrong in that consideration.
If it would take years to reform the GOP it would take centuries to start a new, viable third party.
We don’t have years – there are 30 million Democrat voters coming this February. We lost.
Oh they keep spitting on us because they are convinced they can lure us all back with lesser of two evils. Biden/Harris will be so awful we’ll run back to them.
I personally refuse – I know where this country is going demographically. We’ve already lost – there’s no reason to keep the people who betrayed us and sold out the country in power.
Let all those GOP senators watch the country fall without their titles, security, bribe money, etc. Most aren’t wealthy enough to avoid the crime and poverty they’ve unleashed on the rest of us.
EXACTLY.
it’s a private organization and they set their own rules.
NEVER will they allow themselves to be “taken over”, “cleaned up”, or “remade”.
when PDJT names the new party, i’m there.
Wow FOX! “Baseless allegations of voter fraud”
The rnp by letter are asking once again for money. I wrote on that letter that I switched parties to independent and will not be providing funds to any Republican but a few directly. I will happily join a patriot party or whatever name is chosen for the new mega movement
I will hold values that uphold the Constitution life liberty and pursuit of happiness God centered form of government. For those of you who cling to the Republican party that’s your problem not mine. You on the titanic moving chairs around if you think staying in the rino party will change anything. Life, 2A, etc the Bible values is what made this Country what it is period.
I’m so damned angry with the Republican Party that I would probably punch anyone who came up to me soliciting funds for them. They are nothing more than the right wing of the Uniparty and I have told my state Republican Party exactly that, along with saying Hell will freeze over and the NHL be televising playoff games live from there before I ever vote Republican again.
Avowed enemies are more honorable than traitors.
We need to clone Kelli Ward in the other 49 states…
By now everyone here notices that the MSM – Fox included now, of course – are uniformly referring to “baseless allegations” of election fraud every time they refer to it. The word “baseless” or a synonym (“unfounded”, “groundless”, etc.) is included every single time, as in the article in this post. They feel compelled to categorize it as such, thereby automatically cutting off any possibility of debate or discussion. They treat it as settled fact that no good or reasonable person could possibly have a difference of opinion or concern about. What kind of a free press marches in such lockstep conformity? Government censorship did not do this. They did it themselves and in collusion with each other. A free press that censors itself is no more a free press than one censored by government.
“No-one in the current GOP is ever going to win reelection without the support of the MAGA base and President Donald Trump.”
Smartmatic and Dominion may have a different opinion. As will the creators and beneficiaries of fifteen to twenty million fictional “voters”. Namely, the non-existent, the multi-votes, the illegal, and the dead. A large, unified demographic that always votes a straight [D] ticket, except where a [D] can’t win, and an acceptable [R] must be installed.
Cleaning up the GOPe is one vector in all of this that needs to included in the over-arching strategy.
There are others. For example – it’s important to pull the stick back at times, climb to the 30,000 foot level and survey the lay of the land to the ends of the political/social horizon. What is happening in the “intellectual” and artistic reaches of the current power grab/”social reset”? Who are these people like Jason Parham reaching out to certain subset of the power structure? What are they advocating? Who are their targets? What is their backgrounds? Where do their social, moral, technical and political philosophies and beliefs ultimately lead? Who do they associate with? What sort if lifestyle do they live?
One doesn’t need to travel the intellectual currents too often to see and feel the underlying hatred and contempt of these people. They don’t realize that they are, in many respects, the ideational and power scions of Nietzsche and Schopenhauer. They window dress their self-described sanguine aspirations in the darkest, starkest outcomes for their perceived enemies.
There is a need to know and understand all the forces in play. All the players. Many of these people are tomorrow’s today – they just don’t realize that they have taken yesterday’s racial/religious target and replaced it with it different cultural and racial objects of hate.
It’s a 1930’s replay. The language and methods are strikingly similar. Only the targets have changed.
Understand what is going on. It can be undermined precisely by reaching out, finding common ground and shaping an alternate power structure with the social groups/classes these people are trying to divide and inflame. This is going to take more than resistance. It’s going to take realignment, dialogue, negotiation, agreement and trust.
I am so very tired of reading and listening to what the left have done, what they are doing, what they plan to do to US. No where is there much ‘what we can do’. It all very well and good to announce lack of support to the GOP. I have not given to the GOP machine in years for the very reasons mentioned in this article. I only give to individuals campaigns. Funneling money into the GOP alone is NOT a good idea.
No one is talking about what WE can do literally to head off another stolen election in two years or actually any election from now on.. We all must petition our State Legislatures to take our elections OFFLINE. We cannot be sure there is not election tampering even OFFLINE let alone where the world has the opportunity to add or take away votes. Along with that petition your State Legislature to pass the Convention of States who can then convene to stop and control Congress, demand a budget, term limits and take back the federal government for the people rather than a ruling class of unelected bureaucrats.
Sandra, excellent suggestions and exactly things we can do.
Where is the Texas GOP Allen West?
I like the phrase “baseless allegations of election fraud…” by Fox.
They still are trying so hard, so damn hard. It’s not baseless fools. You just fail to do your jobs correctly.
Getting so tired of this….so so so tired of it. They just fricking lie. And lie without any care for being called out on it.
It is not the first time the media reporting has been disingenous – to put it mildly.
https://www.history.com/news/how-the-challenger-disaster-changed-nasa
Most do not recall the media mentioning it’s own accountability due to pre launch media hype ( constant, repetitive complaining about NASA timelines, technical stops on countdowns, funding, wanting to see a teacher launched ) that the media was creating for a (un) timely launch of Space Shuttle Challenger, 1986. (35 years ago)
Afterwards, the media went silent on its role of the Jan. 28, 1986 Challenger disaster. (35 years ago)…but they did report that the disaster occurred.
The media did not fess up to its role. Their contribution to making their public hype, undue external pressure, to over ride common sense, science and professional judgements..
Yes, there were technical considerations: the satellites and science payloads on board had to be deployed at certain times. Weather conditions are a variable that humans do not control and as such need to be respected and / or worked around, if possible, Finances are limited, while having safety factors built in for reasonable conditions – for potentially very dangerous activity. (placing humans on board controlled explosion rockets)
(not science) The publicity goals of some humans, drive by media and / or politics etc. hype, however, (naively) weighed heavier. (but the media accountability got a pass …and, sadly, continues to get a pass on their roles….)
( and science and safety was compromised )
A factor that was political (media hyped). was due to mention McAuliffe and the Teacher in Space in an upcoming State of the Union address on upcoming Tuesday night. If the launch was delayed, NASA would miss out on another big positive public mention. (that would counter the heavy load of months of negative media hype on schedules, funding etc.)
(due to the negative hype) If the agency was going to justify continued spending on the program, Challenger had to launch on time.
The catch 22 scenario was set up…
(be careful, before proceeding…)
It did launch and fly, for about 70 seconds…. of a 1 week mission.
There had never really been any thought of delaying the launch. NASA had leaned on its past successes as evidence that it was master over technology….and the public (media) pressure was misleading (and costly) and disingenous, incomplete, and unaccountable to put it mildly…
imho
I will vote for a one eyed polecat before Republican again you can’t clean it up the party to many on the take do away with start over RNC a disgrace.
Do you…..really think there will ever be a “fair” election again?
I don’t think there have been fair elections in decades. I believe Trump won in 2016 because they didn’t cheat enough – hence Hillary’s outrage that it was stolen from her.
Remember in 2016 they spread ahead of the election that GA and AZ were trending blue like VA and CO. Then DHS tried to hack Georgia’s voting rolls. Then on election night they refused to call GA until the middle of the night and Trump won by 8%.
They also took weeks to officially call AZ. Add to that they stopped counting/calling states for 2 to 3 hours.
2016 was the dry run for 2020 they just didn’t have the mail in voting in place to mass produce millions of ballots in the middle of the night.
Anecdotally, I vote in a 85% black precinct in VA. In 2008, there were lines waiting to vote for the first black president. In 2012, it was back to normal no lines/walk right in and vote. I loathe Romney, but I believe 2012 was stolen.
M 2022, republican counters in every state should announce “found” ballots in which MAGA candidates received one billion votes. Supreme Court has already decided no one has standing to challenge. Dems no doubt would counter with billions of their own. Farce it out.
I laugh. It’s funny to me. People even on this site:
Please, dear god, please please no new party. We need to fix the GOP. New party won’t work…it won’t work, trust us….you know the same people who say no fraud occurred….(Mitch).
Yes, let’s listen to the same people who have been involved with GOP politics for- 20, 25, 30, in some cases 40 years tell us not to form a new party because it won’t work. Let’s fix the party we couldn’t fix in those 40 years. Trust us now- you, know, cuz this time we will really really change the party…we just needed to get rid of Trump.
Ummm no. I’m done with Republicans in the same way I’m done with Democrats. They are the same…identical.
I keep hearing- it’s just a few R’s…we can change the party. We can!!!
Really? It didn’t look like a few stabbing Trump in the back. Looked like about 90% of Congress.
Insanity ensues.
A new party captures the walk away Democrats and the walk away Republicans. It gets both. Let the UniParty die on the vine.
Don’t form a new party- it’s suicide!!! Trust us- you know- us- the GOP!!!
SORRY, that’s a damn joke. Suicide is continuing to do the same and expecting different results.
A new party is needed. If you have been involved with the GOP for 20/30/40 years and you think we can fix it- YOU ARE THE PROBLEM. PROBKEM.
Yeah, that’s a good idea! Instead of trying to take over the Republican Party by fighting the RINOs and the C of C establishment, let’s start a third party instead! Then we only have to battle the DemoKKKrats, the RINOs, the MSM and the Big Tech Nazis; that should be a lot easier! And while we’re engaged in that battle we can expect a lot of purple and red states to get turned blue! That should really help in cleaning up the corruption and voter fraud!
Right on.
They are dead and just dont know it yet.
BINGO.
I have been saying the exact same thing. The rinos act as if now since weve gotten rid of the rowdy President Trump, were going back to the way uniparty business is conducted in DC.
WRONG
These rinos are toast and in the Senate nearly every one is through except for Hawley and Turberville.
I see rand paul on the talk show show circuit with tough talk about future elections.
What a squish and rino. Just leave office paul you were never a backer of President Trump, but another damned weather vane.
There was an article yesterday on TGP about the censure of Gov. Ducey, Cindy McCain, and Jeff Flake. It says Ducey has decided to be “100% focused on being the governor of the state of Arizona” and that he will not run for U.S. Senate in 2022. There had been wide speculation that he would run for that seat when he had to leave the Governor’s office due to being term-limited. His statement confirmed his plan had been to run for that seat, and thank goodness he has now bowed out (and hopefully will stay bowed out). That will at least give other potential candidates the time to gear up to run for that seat. The problem is – who will run, and will that person be a real conservative and not some GOPe wannabe? Arizona may be flush with potential candidates, but not with good ones who could be expected to mount a strong and successful challenge to Mark Kelly.
As for censuring Cindy McCain and Jeff Flake, that was purely symbolic just as Sundance says. Cindy may as well change officially to being a Democrat, which is probably what she has privately been all her life. And Flake will never again win office in Arizona as a Republican. But both of them can still have a lot of influence in Arizona, especially Cindy with her organization and funding. For me, anyone that either of them endorse is someone I will likely gag at and will not possibly be able to support.
–“The GOPe is dead, they just don’t know it yet.“—
Yep, the GOPe are extras in the movie ‘Sixth Sense’.
They keep thinking we represent Trump
They’ll soon realize Trump represents us.
They 1 party system is going down, it just
isn’t aware yet.
Keep it up Patriots, we can bring these aholes to their knees
Liz Cheney is also facing major hurdles back home (Wyoming). Cheney has already been censured by some counties, and the Wyoming GOP are readying a formal censure and a call back home to face her voters.
(have heard WY GOP chair twice, Carbon County GOP chair once (on Bannon’s War Room). these guys mean business.)
Hot time in the ol’ town tonight.
We’ll see. Just don’t hold your breath.
GOPe just doesn’t get it.
We just need to take our cue from President Trump. If he leaves the party then we should follow. But he also needs to understand that he bears a great deal of responsibility for the election fiasco by allowing Barr and Krebs and others to remain in place when he knew what the Democrats were up to months in advance. No one gives you power. It must be seized. He seized it in 2016, but forgot that after election night in 2016 when the Democrats seized it back and he’s been playing defense ever since.
Primary ALL RINOs – scorched earth. There are less than 1/2 dozen who should have any chance of remaining in the Senate. RINOing cost Arizona’s senate seats and electoral votes. There should be a website dedicated to outing RINOs at all levels of government.
A thought on Mitch McConnel. Here is a man who just won another 6 years in the Senate at the age of 78. He won’t run for election again because he will be too old or will have passed away. Why is he destroying the MAGA movement, denigrating and blowing up the Republican base with his bizarre ILLEGAL impeachment thoughts when HE HAS NOTHING TO LOSE? The bottom line is that he doesn’t support our American Republic and its citizens. TRUTH is now irrelevant.
When NAZI Pelosi, Maxine Waters, Schiff, GoNADS and others of the demoRATIC party were inciting VIOLENCE against Republicans over the last four years including the RUSSIAN HOAX and the previous ILLEGAL impeachment effort, NOTHING was said! They were participants for quite a long time because they BELIEVE everything the demoRATS say. Dumb, stupid and moronic! Then, the elites invoke a FRAUDULENT ELECTION and tell us that Trump incited a riot? What a joke. These Republicans must be removed and all of these demoRATS should be impeached for sedition and insurrection because they have been INCITING VOILENCE against Conservatives for years! WAKE UP Republicans!
Does anyone recall any time when McConnell, McCain, Cheney, Romney, Sasse, Collins, Murkowski called out the democrats for their violent language against Trump and us Trump supporters (who by the way were their constituents)? I think McCarthy and Graham did. But I don’t recall any strong or loud calls by the others against democrat leaders – no accusations of “inciting violence.”
Waiting for Texas to censure Bush and Cheney. I think they should take a step farther though and make them unwelcome as representatives of the GOP.
Oh. You are so right on here.
Did George W. Bush vote for Biden?
I know all that Bush bunch voted for the Hill-Beast in 2016. Petty, vindictive snots.
They practically campaigned for the Clinton Crime Family in 2016.
Let’s just say they didn’t vote for President Trump. Maybe they wrote-in Jeb!
You’ll be waiting a while. Most GOP in Texas are like Chip Roy.
This is all fine and dandy, but the Uniparty knows that over the next 4 years, all sorts of political theater will be played with the GOP “fighting” battles (losing battles as always) vs the Dems, and this will bring conservatives into the “fight” only to slowly forget about Donald Trump gradually bringing the GOP back to life. People have such short memories – the uniparty knows and is banking on it.
Finally, the uniparty will impeach Donald Trump and eliminate him from any future presidential run. This will demoralize the conservatives with a sizable % of patriots mentally giving up on Trump as an effective leader, diminishing his position & leaving conservatives with nowhere else to turn to but the RINO GOP team.
I hope I’m wrong, but that’s the way I see this all play out… perhaps Trump Junior could step in and take over to run if Trump Sr. is impeached? Would he have the same impact?
I believe this is more than fine and dandy. It is one of the essential steps to state we are still here to anyone seeking re-election. We must keep showing our resolve now and after any sham impeachment. Every brick in the wall helps. Not just for our real president but for America by the people.
disagree!! TRUMP/TRUMP 2024 even if he doesn’t run himself…….he’ll be at the rallies!!! ha!
So we gonna have fair elections again that’s good news.
I was under the impression that the Democrats had won through both voter and election fraud and this was the way elections were gonna be from here on out.
Agreed. Repugs must try to stop HB-1, or they won’t lose to us, but rather our whole country to the Demofascists.
The RNC – GOP – needs to know that WE know THEY made the Biden Presidency happen – with all the shenanigans of the Democrats, the Democrats could not have pulled it off without the cooperation of the Republican Party “leadership”.
Oh please…the Coward Party? Burn it to the ground. I will NEVER vote REPUKELICAN again..screw those WORTHLESS bastards.
I will never vote repugnant again!! The gop screwd us all
How long have you been voting on Dominion machines, formerly known as ES&S, Sequoia, Premier, Smartmatic, Diebold…?
How long has election integrity been an issue for the GOP?
Election integrity isn’t a partisan issue.
He’ll run (unless he is prevented by the 22nd Amendment.)
No you are not wrong. They are hoping it will be back to the same old same old. I see it with Rubio. Did nothing for us except be part of the coup and now he is all about blocking amnesty until all Americans get jobs. Yes political theater.
They will get them next time by golly!
Senator Rubio has shown his colors.
If I lived in Florida he would never get my vote.
And telling us that Nikki Haley is our only hope in 2024.
She is MiniSkirt Mitt… No way…
N.E.V.E.R.
Laughable.
My money says you were gullible enough to vote for Romney/Ryan.
Some of us refused to be hoodwinked in 2012 and the number of us who refuse to vote for the corrupt Bush Mafia has only multiplied on steroids.
I also refused to vote for Marco Screwbio for the Senate in 2016 even through Trump told me to.
Trump created a big tent that the corrupt Bush Mafia can only dream of. Many Democrats walked away from their party and voted for Trump. None of these Democrats will ever vote for the corrupt Bush Mafia and their US Chamber of Corrupt Crony Capitalist masters.
There is no more GOP without Donald J. Trump and the gopE and George W. Bush are effin’ dead.
Take it to the bank.
Thus the need to educate. I’ve come to believe most of the “conservative” members of Congress are little more than window dressing to fool the electorate. They don’t accomplish anything.
My representative is Mike Kelly (R) PA. He says all the right things, goes through all the right motions, but in the end, nothing comes of it. I can never forget, nor forgive, the WSJ editorial he authored in 2015 defending the TTP and how good it would be for Pennsylvania. Maybe he didn’t read the TPP, since it was so toxic you had to go to secure room to read it and you weren’t allowed to take notes, and he was mislead by those trying to sell it.
What do you say Mike Kelly? Been there long enough? Maybe move out of the way and support some fresh new MAGA blood? Didn’t think so.
Regardless, I’m done. 425 of the 435 members of the House need to go. None of the Senators are redeemable.
Time for a clean sweep of the old by new party or primary. The key is for the 80+million to stay united in purpose.
I think Don Jr would be more offensive to many voters than Sr. Too much personal baggage too. Eric or Ivanka could carry the mantle but I’m doubtful. Time will tell and I still trust President Trump to lead us in the right direction. I hope he’s taking some time to rest and plan.
Ivanka has always seemed like a liberal to me. I don’t trust Jared. Too liberal. Big money guy.
Mike Pompeo. Ted Cruz. General Mike Kelly. DeSantis. Nunes.
I guess I’m leaning towards the military. A conservative in the military at times like this when we are on the verge of losing our country.
Still not convinced about Cruz. I think he’s playing political theater, looking out for himself. He knows that he can get nowhere with the GOP voters now without hanging onto Trump’s coattails.
Maybe I’m wrong but I think Jared and ivanka were behind the scene giving maybe we’ll meaned advice but didn’t help the President. I feel they are both liberals
You not wrong Ivan’s and Jared are both flaming liberals giving wrong advice to President Trump.
Agree
e-mail this morning from the RNC – asking for support to help take back the House and Senate –
a lot red plus caps and underlining – denoted as MISSING (the contribution they need so badly) but you have ONE HOUR to send it in!
I have changed out the name (now, FORMER RNC SUPPORTER)
The Republican National Committee needs to know that WE know what happened could not have happened without the RNC “leadership” across the board.
from the e-mail this morning:
On his very first day in office, Joe Biden destroyed 11,000 American jobs and $1.6 BILLION in wages when he halted construction of the Keystone XL Pipeline.
Despite the fact that the project would have ZERO carbon emissions, with one stroke of a pen, Biden TOOK AWAY thousands of jobs and INCREASED energy costs.
It’s only going to get worse, Former RNC Supporter. Imagine the amount of damage Biden will be able to inflict if the Left maintains control of the House and Senate for the next FOUR YEARS.
It’s time to start laying the groundwork for VICTORY in 2022, and we need to know that we can count on you. Are you ready to step up?
Please contribute $5 IMMEDIATELY to help your Party win back the House and Senate. >>
STEP-UP
SUPPORTER: Former RNC Supporter
ACCOUNT NUMBER: Non-Existent
CONTRIBUTION STATUS: MISSING
DEADLINE: 1 HOUR
If every single Patriot reading this steps up RIGHT NOW, we’ll have the resources to slow down Joe Biden’s radical agenda AND successfully return control of the House and Senate to the American People.
This line from the letter is a real winner – yes, RNC, I did – we did – KNOW (beyond “imagine”) the harm that could and will be done – but YOU didn’t?!?
It’s only going to get worse, Former RNC Supporter. Imagine the amount of damage Biden will be able to inflict if the Left maintains control of the House and Senate for the next FOUR YEARS.
Reading this again, it really stands out that the RNC is is asking “every single Patriot reading this steps up RIGHT NOW . . . ”
You birdbrains running the Republican Party . . . capitalizing Patriot . . . I can imagine you staying up late concocting this e-mail . . . how many consultants did it take to write this . . . was Karl Rove involved? Maybe they polled the word ‘patriot’ and it was even hotter when you capitalize it . . . sure, that will get them to send in money to us.
“If every single Patriot reading this steps up RIGHT NOW, we’ll have the resources to slow down Joe Biden’s radical agenda AND successfully return control of the House and Senate to the American People.”
People have such short memories………
Let me fix that for you,
SOME People have such short memories….
I sure as hell won’t forget!
You are wrong. I was a democrat. I have voted republican in the past, but was disappointed. Until Trump came along!!! He is the republican party. The republican party may never win another election without him. After shumer and pelosi get done we will have a couple new democrat states, a continuation of the fraud elections, and a government control on just about everything. This past election was the chance and it was squandered by the rino s, establishment, and the globalists. It is over folks, at least for decades if not forever!
I am afraid you are right.
You’re wrong. President Trump is starting a new party-The Patriot Party. I just saw a filing.
What you describe is the way it used to be but not this time. We are done. I was a Republican for more than 30 years voting straight party ticket. I carried W’s water for 8 years. I’m done. I reregistered as an independent the day Liz Cheney voted for impeachment. Their argument that we have no where else to go, etc. won’t work anymore.
Almost all the Republicans I know have registered in the past week or intend to. Some even for democrats. They figure they’ll hurt the Republicans worse that way. People are really, really angry.
I have been a registered Republican since my first vote in 1980…not any more. I will NEVER vote for another Republican again…EVER.
Oh and I’m with Alan Dershowitz. If they impeach him when he’s not President, it will be illegal and won’t prevent him from running again.
Unless, of course, he is President now in fact. But how can that be?
I think he is, otherwise why impeach him
” People have such short memories…….”
I think our memories have improved since the 2020 election.
One does not simply forget about Trump.
“The MAGA movement is a unified common sense political network. No-one in the current GOP is ever going to win reelection without the support of the MAGA base and President Donald Trump. The GOPe is dead”.
Because of what you (Sundance) said there. Looks like all they’re trying to do is damage control.
I can only speak for myself but I don’t think the GOPe will fool us again. Do we care if the Democrats win? Why? We gave them the House, Senate and Presidency in 2017 and 2018 and Ryan and McConnell sold us and the president (Trump) out. Why would we trust them again? Isn’t that the definition of insanity? I think that is what happened in GA. Trumpster’s stayed home and refused to aupport the two establishment candidates
Of course, now we will have to defeat them and the Demofascists if we want our Republic back.
Yes. Everyone knew it was the GA Legislatures job to stand up to the corrupt Gov and SoS. Everyone knew.
There are many things the Uniparty is trying to do to fake their concern for Americans & trying anything to stop the bleeding of the “Republican party.” It’s not going to work, and we should let the party know that in their soliciting of donations, flat out lying in press conferences, etc.
And growing. Add NM, Pipe fitters, union, native Indians and many soon. Every EXO gets us members.
I’m a retired union pipefitter and I voted for DJT twice knowing full well what the leftists were going to do to my trade and country. I’m also aware a great many of my bothers voted the same way.
I’m wondering if this disasterous week more people will push the election fraud investigation. The President didn’t concede
“baseless allegations of election fraud”
Hey Faux, did you read Dr. Peter Navarro’s 3 reports? Obviously not.
Intellectual dishonesty continues to thrive.
If you do a search (I’ve tried Google, Duck Duck, Brave) using search terms including “Navarro,” “election fraud,” you get dozens of links to articles which include words like “debunked,” “proven false,” etc.
Anyone who does not frequent conservative blogs and web sites truly believes that widespread fraud is nothing but a right wing conspiracy theory.
If you want to fight the enemy, you need to KNOW the enemy, and a vast number of Americans, while they may have voted for Trump, are resigned to “he lost, maybe a few local anomalies, but lets move on.”
The media and Big Tech drive the narrative!
We know the GOPe surrenders to the narrative immediately. The rest of us shouldn’t surrender. These allegations are not baseless.
I have Navarros list of fraud ballots on my desktop and I add to emails as I deem necessary for my “pals’ that are out of it.
Exactly, Zydeco!
I would like to play that music in my head as I see Mitch McConnell stepping down from the Senate at some point, replaced by a true MAGA Republican.
I believe Zydeco music is from bayou country – Louisiana – music to listen to while sitting out in the yard trying to catch a cool breeze while picking peas or prepping crawdads
someone grabs a washboard, someone else taps an overturned pail – maybe a harmonica shows up –
I hope they would think that would be very cool in Kentucky as part of the sound track for taking back the Republic AND the Republican Party –
Mitch probably thinks of himself in terms of kettle drums with a full symphony to match his majestic and brilliant personage –
I would like to see him escorted out to the humble but cheerful Zydeco strains, with what sounds like “patter” but as you listen, you realize you are listening to passages from the Declaration of Independence and perhaps something from Thomas Paine,
“these are the times that try men’s souls”
Faux News may not be as left as the NYT’s, WaPo, or most of the MSM but Faux has been trending left for more than a few years.
I haven’t watched Faux News since sometime in August 2012.
As a source of reliable news, they are unreliable.