According to a pre-release excerpt from the Washington Post Bob Woodward writes about a discussion between General James Mattis and Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats about a plot to overthrow the elected government of the United States.
[…] “Mattis quietly went to Washington National Cathedral to pray about his concern for the nation’s fate under Trump’s command and, according to Woodward, told Coats, “There may come a time when we have to take collective action” since Trump is “dangerous. He’s unfit.” (read more)
What do you call a conversation between the Defense Secretary and the head of the U.S. intelligence apparatus where they are talking about taking “collective action” to remove an elected President? That’s called sedition…. A seditious conspiracy.
As alarming as that sounds on its face, this actually aligns with our own previous research into key military leadership, the joint chiefs, and their corrupt intent to overthrow the elected government. Readers will remember when we noted this very issue after Lt. Col Alexander Vindman compromised his position yet was not removed by his command structure within the Pentagon.
NOVEMBER 2019 – […] For emphasis let me repeat a current fact that is being entirely overlooked. Despite his admitted usurpation of President Trump policy, Vindman was sent back to his post in the NSC with the full support of the United States Department of Defense.
The onus of action to remove Vindman from the NSC does not just lay simply at the feet of the White House and National Security advisor Robert O’Brien; and upon whose action the removal of Vindman could be positioned as political; the necessary, albeit difficult or perhaps challenging, obligation to remove Lt. Col Vindman also resides purposefully with the Dept. of Defense.
The Pentagon could easily withdraw Vindman from his position at the National Security Council; yet, it does not…. and it has not. WHY?
There is a code within the military whereby you never put your leadership into a position of compromise; ie. “never compromise your leadership”. In this example, President Trump cannot remove Vindman from the White House NSC advisory group due to political ramifications and appearances…
The Joint Chiefs certainly recognize this issue; it is the very type of compromise they are trained to remove. Yet they do nothing to remove the compromise. They do nothing to assist.
Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman was the majority (#1) source for the material CIA operative Eric Ciaramella used in a collaborative effort to remove President Trump from office. Let me make this implication crystal clear:
The United States Military is collaborating with the CIA to remove a U.S. President from office.
Do you see the issue now?
The Pentagon has done nothing, absolutely nothing, to countermand this implication/reality.
The Joint Chiefs of Staff have done nothing, absolutely nothing, to diminish the appearance of, nor deconstruct the agenda toward, the removal of President Trump.
Mr. President, do I have your attention?
https://twitter.com/BenKTallmadge/status/1268352108958371841
https://twitter.com/BenKTallmadge/status/1268549933596119041
Additionally, Bob Woodward points to Vice President Mike Pence as the whisperer who made sure President Trump blindly nominated officials who could facilitate his removal. Remember, Dan Coats came into the ODNI position from his role within the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence (SSCI).
The SSCI was at the center of the legislative effort to remove President Trump. It was from the SSCI that Security Director James Wolfe was instructed to deliver a series of intelligence leaks against President Trump. The same SSCI who retained the fraudulent premise of the Trump-Russia collusion narrative.
[…] “Woodward describes Coats’s experience as especially tortured. Coats, a former senator from Indiana, was recruited into the administration by Vice President Pence, and his wife is quoted as recalling a dinner at the White House when she interacted with Pence.
“I just looked at him, like, how are you stomaching this?” Marsha Coats said, according to Woodward. “I just looked at him like, this is horrible. I mean, we made eye contact. I think he understood. And he just whispered in my ear, ‘Stay the course.’ ” (link)
Donald John Trump is the first DC outsider we have ever elected to become President of the United States. The scale of what has been revealed merely by his presence is rather jaw-dropping….
Trump 2020,… he’s saving our Republic and we still don’t know all of it.
Anyone know what Mattis’ response to this accusation is? Also, it looks like Woodward is trying to get us against the VP, or create doubt between him and our PDT. I had a moment….now I’m back. Pence has done nothing but support the president day in and day out. I would only question his motives if I see otherwise.
Whether you like Pence, or don’t like Pence… Pence is locked in.
Anyone know what Mattis’ response to this accusation is?
I suspect no one of importance has asked him
I don’t think the “accusation” has been put to him
I did a keyword search on ‘Woodward Mattis Coats overthrow’, and the only returns are for this article here, Sundance’s tweets, and a link to Lucianne’s blog
This ‘overthrow’ story is not “out there yet” – is the impression I get
Mainstream media won’t repeat it, it’s not in their interest
I suspect the accusation is not in Woodward’s excerpt in so many words
… the way I’m interpreting Sundance’s headline is that it is Sundance’s interpretation of the Mattis-Coats conversation
In other words – at this time, I’m not taking Sundance’s headline literally
Meaning that I don’t think Woodward said “General James Mattis plotted overthrow of U.S. Government”
I don’t think Woodward said it
I think Sundance said it
And I think Sundance’s next question explains that it’s his interpretation “What do you call a conversation between the Defense Secretary and the head of the U.S. intelligence apparatus where they are talking about taking “collective action” …?
What you WILL find in keyword searching are the less-definitive phrases like
“may have to take collective action”
“unfit for office”
etc
Those may imply overthrow
But I don’t think you’ll find the headline to this article in Woodward’s words
I’ll stand corrected if anyone can search Woodward’s excerpt
Or Sundance wants to explain
But for now, it doesn’t appear to be a story except here
That could all change in the next couple hours if enough people start stumbling on this Treehouse headline and start a rumbling thrum of “what’s this about Mattis and an overthrow”?
YMMV
To be very, very explicit – and because words matter (and even punctuation):
The headline here is “Bob Woodward: General James Mattis Plotted Overthrow of U.S. Government”
Now the way I’d start to dissect such a headline in any news article starts with that semi-colon
Bob Woodward: <——
I'd interpret that as "what follows is attributed to Bob Woodward"
or, in simpler terms
"Bob Woodward said: content content yada yada …"
So if I got hold of that Woodward document, I'd expect to find somewhere in it – verbatim – "General James Mattis Plotted Overthrow …"
So I'm being very, very explicit, bordering on pedantic … but that's my inclination, so take it how you will
That is all
ah, actually a colon, not a semi-colon
and that colon construct is a standard artifice in headline writing, you’ll see it used widely
that’s why I focused on it’s meaning as “attributed to” or “said” or “says”
in print journalism, where newspaper space was at a premium, it saved an extra word or 2
Baggy Eyes Mattis was only good for trying to keep stupid endless wars going that accomplish nothing even remotely worth the price in lives, limbs and treasure..
In a clash with President Trump’s environmental team, Defense Secretary Jim Mattis has declared that climate change is a threat to national security and one military planners must consider in drawing up strategies.
Mattis also said the Taliban have no religion which makes him dumber than a box of rocks or a Goebbels level liar..
All I know is they have been wailing on PT for 5 years and have not laid a glove on him. This book will play to the same never trumpers\ left who hated him since he went from donor to candidate and it will be forgotten shortly. As for whisperers, it’s an administration which has had lots of them ( all writing books or on CNN!?). Pointing out simply Pence is a move to undermine the campaign. PT seem to think, when he came in, that being a good President would win such people and media over. But the more accomplishments he racks up, the more they hate him. He is proving them wrong, corrupt, bungling, gritfer criminals with each achievement.
from some of the quoted or summarized material, this book may be more problematic for the never trumpers/left and hangers on than you seem to think. analysis such as sundance’s above can show the implications of such revelations as woodward makes. his role, and bernstein’s, in helping remove nixon, apologize for bush, etc., assisting the zionist/neocon war machine, has become clearer over the years.
The Founding Father’s greatest fear was a standing army, which Madison called the greatest mischief (threat to liberty) that could possibly happen.
The Founding Fathers seems to have miss the proverbial Boat on Washington, D.C.
Like most things, there are likely some truths, some fins and much smarmy speculation in Woodward’s book. My take? Pence is not a plotting whisperer. He did provide advice, but it was largely based on his knowledge of people within the political realm. Is Coats a turncoat, or a weak politician who was unduly influenced by Mattis and many others who “ABHOR” Trump?
To many President Trump was a crass vulgarian, whose staggered syntax and blunt talk was shameful. He came with an agenda, and they knew it wasn’t in their favor. The long knives were out early and often. Not convinced Pence was confident in the early days. Heck very few on our side were within the political class. But President Trump won most over when he proved he could get things done…at TRUMP SPEED. This made him an even bigger threat to the cabal.
Still, this posting by Sundance gives me a sick feeling. Sedition within the ranks is dangerous. Woodward is foisting this onto the giant heap of burning riotous garbage the Dims are tossing daily onto our street, into our lives. I’m sick of it, but pizzed that nothing gets done to take these traitors down.
Machiavelli had nothing on Bob Woodward. A master political manipulator. Half the stuff in his book is likely true. But which half?
That is why President Trump interviewed with him, IMHO. Lyndsey Graham or not.
PT is a counter puncher. Sit back and read Bob ‘Naval Intelligence Officer’ Woodward’s book. Research every claim…put more people in ten feet of a rope.
I reckon that Trump did this to learn of his enemies. He knew this guy would twist his accomplishments, but the approval to talk with all folks in his Administration came from Trump.
Like idiots, they spilled their guts to Woodward. Now POTUS knows.
I know this is a dream but it would be interesting for Barr to announce a full investigation in to the allegations in Woodwards book regarding Mattis and Coats
Sedition within the ranks.
AG Barr…nah.
If Shakespeare were still alive today, he would say, “First, shoot all the Generals”.
…”Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.”..
~ H. L. Mencken
Sometimes you can’t tell people the truth
You have to show them…. the seditious Generals did a dry run coup…(vindman,Cieramelli ? etc.)
Anderson Cooper will be doing a town hall with Kelly, Mattis and McMaster. Promoting the “ what if he refuses to leave the WH” narrative ?
Will that be their October surprise?
Rough waters straight ahead? “Q “says this is known and ready. I sure hope so
“Kelly, Mattis and McMaster.”
Not exactly Eisenhower, Patton and MacArthur who would have those three shot..
“Additionally, Bob Woodward points to Vice President Mike Pence as the whisperer who made sure President Trump blindly nominated officials who could facilitate his removal.” As a Hoosier, I feel comfortable saying, this is a pile of road apples. Pence is many things, but disloyal is not one of the and only a fool would believe that PDJT does anything “blindly.” “Coats, a former senator from Indiana, was recruited into the administration by Vice President Pence…” On the other hand, as a Hoosier I’d observe, Coats is a creator of road apples going back many years. As always, consider the source.
agree with you. Pence is a loyal person who may be living by a set of rules from a decade back, but he is not a liar and not a traitor and I would absolutely NOT of ALL things take Woodward’s hint to that effect. Talk about a whisperer.
Coats graduated from the same College as Denny Hastert.
All the little Dougie MacArthurs need to resign if they can’t take the heat. Trump, like Truman, needs to make that clear. Trump needs Eisenhowers, Bradleys, Pullers, Grants, and Halseys working for him to meet the impending dangers ahead. Trump has fully demonstrated that his decision making has worked in several areas of operation. He has withstood the fire of political intrigue, official misconduct, corrupt acts, and worse while still achieving much more than many of his predecessors.
The “holier than thou”, Obama administration colleagues of Mattis and Mueller stood by while the Obama administration interfered in both the 2012 & 2016 elections, while both Hillary & Joe Biden engaged in money grubbing “pay to play” diplomacy that facilitated Putin’s Uranium monopolization & the CCP’s acquisition of nuclear & dual use technology, while the Obama administration appeased our Nation’s foes, while deliberate lies on the Benghazi incident were spread, while rampant violations of national security by Hillary occurred with no repercussions, and much, much more.
Suddenly they’re patriotic?
They should be willing whistleblowers, repentant, and saying their Mea Culpas for their actions against the legitimately elected Trump Presidency. The Democrats have launched their Second Confederacy with their hoodlums from Antifa, BLM, and TDS afflicted rioting, looting, vandalizing, and more ever since Trump was elected.
The conspirators including Mueller, Mattis, Coats, and others encouraged the malevolent malcontents who are now destroying all those Democratic party controlled urban centers because of the fake news, fake racism, fake science, and fake investigations due in large part because of the conspirators’ actions.
time for an EO prohibiting military industries from hiring ex-military until 10 years after they have left the armed forces
It should be forever banned because they ALL seem to find their way to working indirectly or directly for the enemies or the Communist somehow.
They get better pay advising foreign governments how to topple the US.
Great idea!
I am astonished that President Trump doesn’t knock these traitors teeth out!!! Unbelievable amount of self control that I would never have,
Nothing is as it seems!!!
OMG this really floors me…………………….
“Woodward describes Coats’s experience as especially tortured. Coats, a former senator from Indiana, was recruited into the administration by Vice President Pence, and his wife is quoted as recalling a dinner at the White House when she interacted with Pence.
“I just looked at him, like, how are you stomaching this?” Marsha Coats said, according to Woodward. “I just looked at him like, this is horrible. I mean, we made eye contact. I think he understood. And he just whispered in my ear, ‘Stay the course.’ ” (link)
Pence
You have to trust Pence.
There is NO WAY President Trump would surround himself with people who are opposed to his agenda.
Just won’t happen.
Therefore, you have to assume Pence is 100% on board the Trump Train.
If you were trying to sow seeds of discontent you would print false stories to make people point fingers at each other. Don’t believe a word Woodward writes.
We have to trust Mr. Pence.
I’m fairly certain he would not have been my choice as our personalities are much much to different. But I think he’s performed very well in the President Trump administration.
As you allude, Mr. President seems happy w/ him, who am I to complain!
I am curious, because I can’t find any answers online… Were the thousands of sexual emails that General John Allen send to his on base doxie ever released publicly? If not, why not? Apparently, Allen has managed to keep his public sinicure alive, while influencing many military personnel (especially Marines) who are working in the Administration… I’m just wondering why someone who was forced to resign, because he disgraced his uniform, is still allowed souch power and influence? The public needs to see and read the emails…
Charles – see this Sundance article from July 29, 2016 for refresher (don”t forget to click on the links) – Allen, Petreous et alia, what a bunch!
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/07/29/why-did-general-john-allen-speak-at-dnc-convention-for-hillary-clinton/
Hi Maggie
Thanks for the assistance, I agree with Sundance, the sordidness from 2012 has been largely forgotten and maybe the public needs to be re-enlightened about Mr.Allen and his antics. Allen’s influence among Marines, especially because he can offer jobs(Brookings) and contacts needs to be curbed…A good place to start would be to get his past out to the public… tarnish the lefty brass as they say…Thanks again.
Remember Watergate and Nixon. If there was an actual coup they would go after Pres. Trump’s successor first just as they did Agnew, There by knowing they control the outcome. The Deep State put Ford in first before they went after Nixon. Ford was a Rockefeller Republican. Ford even made Rockefeller his VP. The Impeachment was not a Coup. It was all Democrat politics.
Like they did with President John F. Kennedy?
I don’t recall a big move to remove Lyndon Baines Johnson at all.
In fact many (hello Roger Stone) say Johnson was in on the whole operation!
So, what was your point again?
There is a video out there that show JOHNSON ducking down behind his seat just as his car turns on the Dealey Plaza he KNEW what was about to go down.
And if I remember correctly, when Ford had to run in the 1976 election, he wanted to choose Rockefeller again as his VP, but the conservatives strongly protested (this was when Reagan ran against Ford that year, but didn’t make it). Strongly protested doesn’t begin to define it. Ford was forced to name Bob Dole as his running mate. That was the year that Ford said in debate with Carter, “There is no Soviet domination of Eastern Europe.” That was the end of Ford. Fortunately, Reagan won 4 years later in 1980 after a failed Carter 4 years. And thank goodness Rockefeller never got further than his short stint with Ford after the Watergate fiasco.
But he died in the saddle!
You have to consider the possibility of disinformation. It is possible they are trying to isolate the President from any possible support considering what is coming in November. We shouldn’t speculate we need to be damn sure. I’ve always wondered why the Obama brass weren’t quietly moved aside.
Sorry I wasn’t clear. Was talking about Pence not Crazy Dog.
When will Crazy Dogs court marshal convene? He is still subject to military law is he not?
There is military code of justice that many have broken and ALL should see court martial.
Mattis, Kelly and McMasters are very clearly all anti-American disgraces with no integrity whatsoever, especially Mattis.
Oh no… they all believe in “America”. Just the wrong one.
Add Jim Jones after the Shadow Gate documentary.
It’s all disinformation. I won’t be “clutching my
pearls” about any of these fake scandals.
This isn’t Mattis’s & CO’s first attempt to remove President Trump.
Bob Woodward’s wife & her feelings and suppositions? Weak.
Remember during the 2017 transition the media was grinding out tidbits about Mrs Pence loathing PT?
Seems Bob Woodward’s wife would have cozied up to Mrs Pence for this gossipy National Enquirer caliber of investigative work. They pretty much just hand out cash for a story.
Correction: Mrs Coates
It’s as if blm and the riots just disappeared.
It will be attack Trump everyday with some new nonsense. Woodward didn’t reveal anything to hurt Trump. Only the same fringe leftists are trying to find some kind of scandal.
Read the paragraph from ParsingAmerica.
All of this just utterly shreds my soul. How do we come back from this kind of evil that has been unmasked.
My heart aches for how far our Country has fallen and I lift my voice up daily with millions of others (there ARE more of us than there are of them!) for God’s mercy and protection for our President who is fighting this demonic assault on his own, for our country and for our families.
He is as the 300 Spartans. Only more outnumbered in Washington.
Gaby – Thank The Lord, for your eyes to see the demonic assault, — yes I too believe
God has unmasked this evil.
The danger is, that the deep state has always been around pulling strings, it is just now that President Trump is in office, they are exposed. I fear the intel and deep state players won’t bother to hide their intentions to have power once he is out of office. Full bore open corruption and disdain for “the people.”
Gabytango, where is that well regulated militia? We’re gonna need it come November.
a story doesn’t NEED to be true to have effects.
most great stories like great humor/satire contains a partial truth warped for effect to cause otherwise totem walls to fall away.
when you understand the human condition and what makes all great jokes irrational…. and why it provokes laughter… you also glimpse the if you are careful to inspect for it the very fertile soil that writers exploit to build drama.
in this book it would be no different… but with much higher stakes…the prize is to rattle evangelicals from the Trump base…a careful sortie of inflammatory conflations about some grand military coup …combined with a fervent prayer…in consult with the church guy pence no less..
well isn’t that a splendid tale?
this joke works because it contains some partial truths… enough to create drama.
I’ve been criticized several times for pointing at pence as the weak link and quite the idiot…the Flynn case was thevery first huge red flag…
as I’ve said…the Flynn ouster and the consequences for THIS administration over the horrible manner in which that was handled is not going to age well.
Woodward knows exactly what he’s doing…he making a case to draw that pence quantum for a serious inspection.
and frankly… if the radicals get some success in helping trump get motivated to axe that liability…i will not wet one tear over it.
pulling the evangelicals does not require the embecile pence. we should never want pence anywhere close to executive power. ever.
its a simple function of Pence’s cerebrum…it doesn’t function.
he is a political animal …period.
Trump is most certainly aware of the very real threat and liability pence represents.
he is a jackwagon …not fit to shine flynn’s boot socks
You are saying a lot of things there, Regitiger. Let me give you another way to look at it. One of my gifts in life is reading contracts. I am that person that can look at 10 pages of gobbledygook and find the paragraph that sums up the whole deal. And I can do it in a matter of minutes. 35 years of practice will do that for you. I provide that service to family and friends all the time.
When skimming through that kind of stuff, my mind automatically skips right over the boiler plate, looking for the red meat, the killshot. Because most of the time there’s very little in there that matters, and so the important part stands out like a sore thumb. All of these various attacks on President Trump are structured the same way. Most of it (Woodward’s book) is garbage. But I’d be willing to bet there is one specific part of it that is the entire reason for writing the book. Maybe it’s to get President Trump to declare war on the Pentagon. Maybe it’s to isolate and and marginalize Vice President Pence. At this point, who knows. But that’s how these operations work.
President Trump set up General Mattis early in his term. He asked him what troop levels, and what equipment he would need to win one of the wars, Afghanistan or Iraq, I don’t remember which. And he made him lay out a timetable. Six months or a year, whatever. Of course Mattis got nothing done. Same old same old. Business as usual. What he wasn’t expecting, was that President Trump would expect results. And call him on the carpet for that lack of results. You’re fired. Mattis out. Next.
thx, Star, that’s a great tale …. saved that to a file
Exactly.
Sign of a good boss: delegate, get the job done or get out of the way.
And Mattis never forgave Trump for expecting results and showcasing his failure.
mattis mission was never to be respected.
the strategy was to
1. manipulate Trump into another ME op operation..and the trillions pf dollars that follow.
this was done with Obama who also ran a “stop foreign war and interventions”..with great success…like most presidents before obummer. mobey has a serious effect on principles to those that actually have few.
plan b, failing to navigate trump to a hawk posture..was this
b. discredit trump and join the resistance.. that’s an entirely different money payout…just as lucrative.
mattis is not a patriot..his allegiance is oathed to a private war commerce.
fortunately…we have a president in trump who has principles that are not for sale. and will not be bullied by the generals of the MIComplex.
we the people are truly blessed to have this dark knight…one we don’t deserve.. but do need.
who knew peace could be do damned hard to win.??
and here’s the thing…even without a single major conflict..trump manages to capture every single economic record in history…on record time.
so lets have that debate again about the cost of security!!!?
the legacy of trump will long remembered.
teach your kids now…show them what he has done. in detail…. explain what this means…how it has changed the entire world!!
our next generation will face the same challenges.
we can help them be true to realities by explaining what trump has done and why it matters.
that’s our challenge and duty.
God Bless America
And as a designer, I am taught to look at everything upside down, sideways and the opposite way…out of the box.
No matter if Graham brokered this interview deal or not, what if the President did the interview knowing that Bob (an old intelligence guy) might trip up on information that President Trump could then use against his enemies?
PT said as much in an interview tonight. He said that many other Presidents have interviewed with Bob, and even though the books have been garbage, he thought he should give it a shot!!!
LOL!!!
WSB, he’s not afraid of any of them. He ventures into the lions den all the time. Answers reporter’s questions on an almost daily basis. No holds barred. An absolute Alpha.
Indeed. As a developer, President Trump has my skills plus so many others.
However, as a genius level brain, PT has a spherical understanding of many concepts, so he does not mind being controversial in any portion of that sphere in order to out his enemy’s intent.
Star – I recall the curious Remark President Trump made to the ‘brass’ and their wives.
‘Gesturing to his guests, he said, “You guys know what this represents? Maybe it’s the calm before the storm.”
“What’s the storm?” asked one reporter.
“Could be the calm before the storm,” Mr. Trump repeated, stretching out the phrase, a sly smile playing across his face.’
By Mark Landler, Oct. 6, 2017
It would be naive to believe that our VSG President did not know the history of those Officers and Gentlemen.
I remember that
He knew. Crossfire Hurricane, Crossfire Typhoon. He let them know he knew.
“a story doesn’t NEED to be true to have effects.”
Very true. Democrat LBJ early on spread the ‘rumor’ that his opponent for state legislator in Texas had sex with farm animals. His own campaign manager said, “Lyndon, you know that’s not true” and Johnson replied, “I know, but let him deny it!”.
This has been their main type of MO against Trump all along.
Nailed it, OffCourseNation!!
So assuming that projection is pretty much all democrats use , do you think that it could be quite possible that Johnson had sex with farm animals?
So I guess he wasn’t running against an Arab?
AMEN and a thousand likes!!!
I have to agree 100% with you regitiger. A patriot would not throw Lt Gen Flynn under the bus. And why did Pence get a “love Note” at GeoHW’s funeral?
I would love to know what those notes said!
While I don’t believe a word that comes out of Woodward’s pen/mouth, I also have no idea why PDJT would give Woodward a second of his time.
As for Pence, he may want to refute what’s in Woodward’s book. Like soon.
Haven’t you heard? Tucker Carlson said tonight on his show, that it was none other than Lindsey Graham who encouraged Trump to do the interview with Woodward and arranged the terms!!
John McCain strikes from the grave!
I have a mind to sit down and pen a Strongly-Worded Letter to that Lindsey Graham.
? lol!
PDJT should, to put it mildly, not take advice from Lindsey Graham. Ever.
Remember the Godfather warning Michael about a traitor in the family. The person will reveal their identity when they come to him for a meeting with the enemy.
“Now listen, whoever comes to you with this Barzini meeting, he’s the traitor. Don’t forget that.”
Graham is Tessio.
Right. Only problem is he comes from that crew.. We only have him on loan for now.
Magabear – you made me smile. Thinking about President Trump getting Woodward
to expose Pence.
Done. Our VSG President didn’t have to do a thing.
People like our POTUS like to believe they can either charm OR outwit the other “great minds” they meet.
Not meant as a criticism, just as an observation.
pence is not bright enough to realize the impact of doing nothing.
he has in fact for a very long time scrapped by doing precisely nothing.
does it occur to anyone that few radicals actually care to rain on his silent parade?
think carefully…
pence was forged from an early compromise … a metal smelted with far too much silicone…and never properly tempered.
I’ve used ash axe handles that work better than this dipstick.
before this is over..and it will be over…and it will be justly handled.
i will personally be attending the utter destruction of pence… and recording it on high fidelity for all to witness.
i will see to it …i will enjoy the benefit of true justice dished out to a corruptly defective unit.
i will relish in seeing it through.
i will do this because his actions, corrupt and self.righteous INSULTS AND HUMILIATES the very people he has pretended to represent.
this one is a special case. its personal.
gloves off.
Bob Woodward is the siren song upon which countless Republicans gave up their careers. WHEN WILL THEY LEARN? I Blame Trump for listening to Goober!
I heard on Tucker tonight that LIndsey Graham talked Trump into talking with Woodward. Ooops.
Regarding MATTIS THE SEDITIOUS TRAITOR:
Remember how The Swamp went into high vapors when Trump dumped Jim MATTIS (for good reasons)? Mattis reads like a shame-rag leftist moron:
11. Support for trannies in uniform
12. Support DoD paying for sex change operations
13. Support for Paris Climate Accord
14. Support for Obama’s Iran Nuclear Deal
15. Support for endless Afgan military presence
16. Support for endless Syrian military presence
17. Opposed to USA Space Force (dominance)
18. Opposed to Jerusalem USA Embassy
19. Opposed Military building Border Wall
Enough said?
50,000-Foot View…
1.) Isis not dead
2.) 20 years in Afghanistan
3.) Navy ships crashing into each other
4.) China positioning themselves to dominate The World
Quite the legacy, that crew.
Wheres reasons 1-10?
I know I’ll take a lot of heat for saying this, but I always had cognitive dissonance when I heard the nickname Mad Dog attached to a man with a pronounced lisp. I suspect there are some major skeletons in that closet.
Bingo Tango. Bingo.
Mattis always struck me as an untrustworthy, effeminate creep.
He’s only “Maddog” Mattis when he’s getting railed by his boyfriend.
Mattis from the moment he opened his mouth to speak, I knew he was a peder. I stand by that. I asked a couple of friends, their opinion was full of admiration according to what they read, I asked them look at the man hear him speak. Peder everyone agreed, a lisp anyone can have that does not mean much, but so many other of his ideas as described by Everett Miller, spot on. God Bless PDJT.
I always wondered about his health. The large bags under his eyes seemed to signal excess fluid, perhaps indicative of a heart condition. Mark Milley has the same. (This is neither here nor there- thought I’d mention it.) Also, he was uneventful looking out of his military uniform.
By the way, I saw it written that he didn’t like the moniker, “Mad Dog.”
Now, which investigative reporter is going to track down and hound Marsha Coats about her quote to Pence in the book?
And who is going to hound the VP for his response, as well?
I was wondering about that…has VP Pence responded either directly or through a spokesperson yet?
VP Pence never seems to say much at all. Ken Doll, IMHO.
I may be very harsh in this…and I do no want to judge Pence in this way. I have just not seen a lot of push back with the Flynn debacle and a few other malicious coup members.
Yup.
Not only has there been no pushback from Pence on the Flynn persecution, but it seems that Pence was actually responsible for General Flynn’s ouster, take down, and continuing abuse to this day.
I remember when Sundance sounded the alarm in the very beginning of the administration.
Indeed. So wanting this to be exposed.
GHW Bush babysat Reagan…this seems to be the MO of the deep state if their desired President doesn’t get into office.
I was wondering who Pence reminded me of, “Ken” doll. LOL.
Ha!
Can someone post when the Trump-Tucker interview in on the Internet. I don’t have cable.
Sorry, The Pres. was on Hannity.
Basically, IMHO this is a book of historical fiction. My suggestion would not to waste anytime on it. I think Woodward’s books in the past were junk, Some parts maybe true, but are progress mind guesses.
We have an election to win.
Milley himself should have upheld and defended the constitution in 2008 and for the next 8yrs.
Their cash cow in the military industrial Complex has been threatened in many ways along with their globalist progressive NWO and the “Transformation” has been halted and they ALL should be busted in rank to the Lowest level possible.
This could all be so easliy rectified if the US would encourage convertible manufacturing.
We should not have MFR’s solely making weaponry. They should diversify to make other products during peacetime of in a parallel system, IMHO.
Same to be said of small businesses, service or products. They should be able to convert in time of war or other natural disaster, plannedemics, etc.
Forget Vindman.. Mattis and Coats should be arrested.
Vindman is a pimple on the Ass Of History.
Mattis, Coats, and many others are a threat to The Republic.
“It’s Lt. Colonel Vindman Is A Pimple On The Ass Of History!”
These are Obama generals. Can PT bring back the ones O canned?
If it were a nightmare, it would be bad enough. We are staring into the abyss of hell itslef. Every institution designed dilegently to protect and defend the constitution has been bought and paid for with not just money, but every digusting evil vice imagniable. The CCP and like spiritual vermin have crept into the halls of influnce and from our government to colleges to church leadership all have drank the wine of the dragon/beast. They have been drunk with power and lust. Now that it is being exposed, shear panic and hate are boiling to the surface. The riots and COVID are the manifestations of this beasts ultimate plan for all humanity. This is Babylon. It will be destroyed.
Sounds like Revelation does it not? This is why I will always maintain that these people are evil. Pure unadulterated evil.
What do you call a conversation between the Defense Secretary and the head of the U.S. intelligence apparatus where they are talking about taking “collective action” to remove an elected President? That’s called sedition…. A seditious conspiracy.
What’s it called when Woodward knows about the seditious conspiracy, but doesn’t notify anyone because he wants to impact an election and make money with a new book?
And what if Woodward just exposed something he shouldn’t have. An unsuspecting canary in President Trump’s coal mine?
Are woodwards books displayed in the fiction section yet ? Or do the book stores just place them in every place you turn in the store?
misprision of felony
18 USC 4
“Whoever, having knowledge of the actual commission of a felony cognizable by a court of the United States, conceals and does not as soon as possible make known the same to some judge or other person in civil or military authority under the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.”
This post points to a question that concerns me deeply: how loyal to the President are the CURRENT top military brass?
Imagine this scenario: 48 hours after the election, there is no clear winner. Then massive rioting breaks out in many cities. More intense and widespread than we’ve seen from the recent “practice games.” Local LEOs are overwhelmed. Military intervention is required. President Trump gives the order and the Joint Chiefs “respectfully decline” to obey. What happens then? They would have no choice but to arrest the president on some noble-sounding charge. The riots stop immediately. The military has saved us! Would that not be a successful coup d’etat? God knows they would find limitless support from the howling mobs, the Dems, the Rinos, the legions of bureaucrats, the media and a very large chunk of the public.
Far-fetched? I sure hope so! But does 2020 so far resemble anything you expected?
The military officers who respectfully refuse a direct order from their CoC, are arrested and incarcerated, pending Courts Martial, and that continues down the chain of command, until somebody obeys orders.
In your scenario, which I agree is not TOTALLY far-fetched, and may well be in someones imaginings.
There are MANY more of US, than them.
I have been saying for awhile, pray for the best but PREPARE for the worst dictates IF YOU CAN, preparing for a road trip to D.C., perhaps for PDJT’s inaugeration, but PERHAPS earlier, if any of the various nightmare scenarios being bandied about, in fact is tried.
Just as we need OVERWHELMING #’s at the polls in Nov., we may need OVERWHELMING #’s in D.C., in Dec or Jan., in order to literally STAND between PDJT and attempts to illegally/unconstitutionally remove him from office.
So, a perhaps peaceful, perhaps not so peaceful protest in D.C., the need for which might arise on short notice.
Our total military is what,…less than 5 million? And only a small % of those are combat troops, some of whom may well side with ‘US’?
I really don’t think they are prepared to pull a Tienamen, but we may well need to stand in the breach, and tell them, with our prescence, NO! WE, the people WILL NOT let you DO this!
So, are you ready, on short notice, to head out? What would you need?
Do you have it packed, or loaded in the trunk? If not needed, no harm, no foul.
But if the time comes, and you hear the call, you don’t want to be unprepared.
Good post. On Saturday, September 26, Franklin Graham is leading a Prayer March in Washington, D.C.
May God be with him and all of the Marchers.
Sounds good, perhaps I will join in their prayers from here, “where two or more are gathered, in my name”,…but I think I want to be available for a cross country trip, AFTER November,…say Oct thru Feb?
For those closer to D.C., it would be great! Pray for our nation, and one last, big red pilling, where the clouds are lifted from their eyes, and tens of million more # walkaway and join us.
The LEO’s haven’t been overwhelmed anywhere yet … true they have been held back … but they can easily dispatch this rabble in a night if allowed too …
President Trump gives the order and the Joint Chiefs “respectfully decline” to obey. …
Then they are fired and the next layer is given the order … The President is not just CIC to the Joint Chiefs … He can give lawful orders to Privates …
In fact he doesn’t even have to go thru the Joint Chiefs … He can give orders to anyone …
And call back retirees, IIRC…
Here! Here!
Presidential Emergency Alert system. You think they set that up and tested it for kicks? As long as he has access secured, with a single message across the US, to every single cell phone, President Trump can announce an insurrection.
President would fire the military brass, and could recall retirees, from what I know of.
Generals can hang just like FBI coup plotters can hang for treason
Deep Inkshitter, Deep Caca
“The biggest rap on me is that I don’t find a Watergate every couple of years.… The Washington Post stories had some part in a chain of events that are described in our book, that were part of a very long and complicated process over many years…. We’re not going to have another Watergate, probably, in our lifetime. I’m sure.” – Bob Woodward, PBS, “Frontline: Why America Hates the Press”, July 29, 1996
Trump’s had an unusual series of bad hires: Bolton, Kelly, Mattis, Tillerson, Priebus, Coats, Rosenstein, Wray, Sessions. That’s just at the top. Then all the guys a layer below.
Why did he feel compelled to only hire from the Swamp. Not every position is senate confirmed. And what if his nominees were rejected and he said he’s not going to fill the slot and nominate another non-Swamp creature.
I’ve been curious why Trump never fully exercised the powers of his office. For example on declassification which is entirely a POTUS decision.
Maybe trump is pulling them out of the murky brackish waters of the swamp to expose and set them up with out them even figuring it out until it’s already over for them. Trump is a big fan sin Tzu and these not so smart creatures still haven’t noticed. Maybe these people are really that stupid and as corrupt as they are stupid
He had problem with people he knew from New York and outside Washington too. Cohen, Scaramucci, Conway (husband), and Bannon to name a few. It comes with being a total outsider. It doesn’t serve you to be on the President’s side once you get to Washington. The only people so far that didn’t stab Trump in the back are Miller, Sarah Huckabee, Ivanka, and Jared. And look how Jared is treated by some here because he is Jewish New Yorker.
I always felt giving Barr the ability to declassify was a “negotiation” on President Trump’s part.
Pence is certainly not the heir apparent to Trump in 2024, even if trump enthusiastically endorsed him.
Too many of us true Patriots have not, do not, and will not ever trust him. In addition, he is incompetent.
Ted Cruz is Canadian.
ha ha … nice try …
as Natural Born as McCain was …
His dad wasn’t in the military and stationed in Canada. I thought his dad was trying to keep out of the draft.
Were Cruz’s parents even both Americans when he was born?
Governor Ron DeSantis
Governor Kristi Noem
Senator Josh Hawley
RIc Grennell
Tucker Carlson
Donald Trump Jnr.
None of
Nimrata Haley
Mike Pompeo
Marco Rubio
And several others.
Tucker Carlson 2024, he’s proved his toughness on many occasions.
Prediction: Mitt Romney “shocked” and “alarmed” at the “revelations” in Bob Woodward’s new book.
No General can arrest the President without support of the cabinet, mainly DOJ Sec. Barr. If Barr was interested in a coup he wouldn’t have called off the Mueller Investigation.
Who said anything about “arrest”?
All bets are off with those people. And by that I mean: 99.9% of Washington, D.C., and their #NeverTrump private sector enablers.
Couldn’t Trump ask the FBI to investigate this?
Funniest comment tonight!
AH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA,
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Oh My God! HA HA, HA HA.
Robert with all due respect…..no. No one, and I mean, no one, trusts the FBI when it comes to dealing with a Trump related issue.
Maybe the attorney for Flynn if she were flagged by Trump to run the FBI, then yes, she would get things done properly. Unfortunately my friend, I don’t see it being done today.
Yet… if a citizen is caught aiming a rifle at the president, he goes to prison for a long time as the possibility his actions, if successful, can remove an elected president and destabilize the government in a time frame our enemies can use against us.
So why should a uniformed general’s attempt to do the exact same thing be treated differently?
If Mattis ain’t the poster boy for 18 USC 2384 then nobody is.
So, Tucker’s show tonight illustrates he had advanced notice of the contents of the Woodward
book.
Yes, POTUS is pulling troops out and yes, Tucker has been promoting our getting out of foreign entanglements that gain nothing for American citizens for a long time so the topic of his show tonight was topical BUT it’s also clear people inside DC knew that Mattis and the top brass were anti-Trumpers.
How much money do you suppose would have flowed to Mattis to sway Trump into staying in foreign wars and keeping Pentagon brass fat and happy with the corporate money that would have lined their pockets?
Great film!
Wrong spot!?
On the upside Trump did mention that there would be some changes coming to the Pentagon in the near term. I’m thinking our genius in command has a handle on this and is going to short circuit any moves the military might have in mind…let’s hope.
They won’t go quietly. At least, I wouldn’t assume so.
My recommendation… Operation Flashlight:
Gather a large BLM crew (actors and/or otherwise) to descend on The Pentagon. Just blanket the place with screaming BLM Marxists. Every Pentagon occupant that kneels and/or gives the New Black Power sign goes on a list.
Seven Days in May is a 1964 American political thriller film about a military-political cabal’s planned takeover of the United States government in reaction to the president’s negotiation of a disarmament treaty with the Soviet Union.
True Yesterday Proven Today!
Silent Coup by Len Colodny revealed there was a Woodward-connected Pentagon spy ring in the Nixon admin. Nixon, to his eventual regret, decided to cover up the spying for the “good of the country”. Nixon’s head of the Plumber’s unit, David Young once said, “To understand Watergate, you need to understand the Moorer-Radford Affair.” Young fled to England during Watergate and never returned to the US except to visit. Bob Woodward had huge connections to members of the Pentagon spy ring, notably Admiral Robert Welander, General Alexander Haig and Admiral (and future Carter CIA chief) Stansfield Turner. Welander and Stansfield Turner were classmates of a little-known Georgia Governor Jimmy Carter. The secretary whose phone was the target of the Watergate break-ins and tap would become Jimmy Carter’s traveling secretary during his 1974-76 run for the White House.
The Anti-Trump Paul Ryan and his friend VP Pence. This is only one of several relationships that seem questionable.
Paul Ryan toasts to Vice President Pence
Jan 20, 2017
At Secretive Meeting, Tech CEOs And Top Republicans Commiserate, Plot To Stop Trump
Karl Rove shared focus group findings that give hope to the GOP establishment.
By Ryan Grim, Nick Baumann, and Matt Fuller?ops=scalefit_720_noupscale
Note: Paul Ryan’s name in the list below and the date 03/07/2016 07:22 pm ET Updated Mar 20, 2016. Then think about what was going on with the coup members.
Apple CEO Tim Cook, Google co-founder Larry Page, Napster creator and Facebook investor Sean Parker, and Tesla Motors and SpaceX honcho Elon Musk all attended. So did Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), political guru Karl Rove, House Speaker Paul Ryan, GOP Sens. Tom Cotton (Ark.), Cory Gardner (Colo.), Tim Scott (S.C.), Rob Portman (Ohio) and Ben Sasse (Neb.), who recently made news by saying he “cannot support Donald Trump.”
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/aei-world-forum-donald-trump_n_56ddbd38e4b0ffe6f8ea125d
Sundance, it’s Lt. COLONEL Vindman, not Lt. General — please don’t promote this creep, even accidentally!
Mattis is a traitor to the nation. Look at the SOB wearing a purple Hagzilla tie! what a piece of ordure he turned out to be. /spit
I don’t know what it is, but I seem to have an uncanny ability to see who the traitors are long before it’s clear to the public. Never liked Mattis. What’s with the “mad dog” nickname to make him sound tough? He was big into climate change and that was a huge clue right there I served in the Nat. Guard for 10 years and have followed military subjects ever since. The Navy is by far the most important branch followed by the Air Force, and that’s coming from an Army guy. Appointing a Marine for SecDef. was a mistake prima facia. The Marines are tough and all, but it’s just a corps size branch. The Army has about 13 divisions! My final word on this is a warning on Mitch McConnell. I believe the extent of his treachery against the President and the Republican party will be breathtaking once it’s all out there. He is bad news. Wish we could lose a seat and still control the Senate, but we can’t take that chance if it’s a close election.
p.s. I agree with the many comments on here about Graham being a snake also.
Eric W.
Mattis’ nickname in the ranks was ‘Monk’ because he was really quiet. Never was really sure what to make of him.
Never thought he was much…lisp and a bit off.
Stumbled on this from almost 2 yrs ago. Never really have been sold on this limey Hilton guy, but this article seems to hit the mark
Steve Hilton: Mattis, Kelly marched to the establishment beat. Trump was right to fire them
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/steve-hilton-mattis-kelly-marched-to-the-establishment-beat-trump-was-right-to-fire-them
Woodward is pretty much Wormtongue of the Lord of the Rings. He’s the whisperer and deceiver. Definitely would not put any stock in what Woodward says.
Deeply disappointed in Mattis, he did not live up the hype and very quickly he turned out to be a politician through and through.
They always come with a big Washington DC reputation, that’s the tell they are corrupt. Comey, Mueller, Mattis, Kelly, Coats, and Barr-zini.
The two outsiders that raised hell, Trump and Grenell.
JIM MATTIS
Billions stand to be lost for the defense industry if America brings our troops home from Iraq and Afghanistan as Trump has called for
The same defense industry with retired generals on all their boards
Eisenhower warned us
Mattis is the head of the War Party
“James Mattis is linked to a massive corporate fraud and nobody wants to talk about it”
Mattis was on the board of Theranos
CEO’s trial will be this year
Worried, Jimmy?
Why isn’t anyone asking Jim Mattis about the Theranos fraud that he profited from & helped facilitate? And the $10 billion no-bid DoD contract that he tried to steer to his corrupt friends at Amazon?
Mattis is very happy the Theranos trial got delayed due to the pandemic!
Imagine if Mattis cared as much about protecting America as he does about protecting Afghanistan
“It only takes $150,000 to bribe a general,” is how the saying goes.
Don’t fall for the hype.
Mattis and others send in large troop presence, because it costs a lot of money to keep them there, and then boom you get that nice job at Raytheon or Boeing.
The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan were almost exclusively *fought* by 10,000 to 15,000 SOF guys and order kept by infantrymen.
Generals wanted to hold them back, they want tank wars and boots on ground. This is how they get those jobs in the defense industry post-military.
One of the biggest opponents of bringing US troops home was Mattis. He fought hard for the status quo.
@realDonaldTrump
ran and won the election partly by commitng to this policy.
Why would Mattis take the job & then undermine the policy? Because it’s what DC types do.
I wonder why so many retired Generals don’t like Trump…
https://www.vox.com/2018/3/16/17124288/mattis-theranos-board-trump
CNN person w/ direct knowledge: @andersoncooper has been planning a town hall for months w/ Gary Cohn, Jim Mattis, John Kelly & McMaster to air in September. They will make stuff up & say that Trump is unfit for office. Mattis & Kelly signed on. Cohn & HR on the fence.
Source familiar confirms to
@OANN
and adds that this has been in the works since January, before COVID or recent civil unrest.
Mattis didn’t suddenly decide he had to speak up, he was timing it for the election