Appearing with Fox News Maria Bartiromo, Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton outlines his state’s legal and constitutional position on election fraud that disenfranchises his citizens. If Texas has no “standing” then how are we to remain The United States.
As Paxton rightly notes if electoral nullification is not in the constitutional purview of the Supreme Court then what is? The electors clause is in the Constitution for a reason… and the Tree of Liberty is quite parched at this specific moment in history.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDPfQFuzd98
It might, very small ‘might‘, be argued the constitutional “harm” has not yet evidenced as electors have not yet presented themselves. However, the SCOTUS ruling would likely have inferred that position.
Texas AG Paxton does not appear to be positioned to re-file after 12/14/20.
Brennan and Clapper Accused of Hacking John Roberts To Blackmail Him
https://bigleaguepolitics.com/brennan-and-clapper-accused-of-hacking-john-roberts-to-blackmail-him/
And to add to that…………
Here are the words from the lips of the Hammer WB in 2015 who turned in 47 hard drives of evidence and what he said the purpose of the Hammer Program was from 2009-2012.
“I produced 600 million pages. If you printed out each page it would be thirty miles high stacked one on top of another. The information is very sensitive information. They collected google searches, credit cards, phone retcords, images, pictures, anything and everything, and they did it for one reason: LEVERAGE. They didn’t know when, but they knew sooner or later they would need that information to use for LEVERAGE against a person … The amount of information is mind-boggling, and I gave all of that to FBI Director Comey’s office.”
Not much has changed since other than those responsibly for Justice ignoring all the evidence.
Sound familiar?
I wouldn’t place much importance into the Texas lawsuit. It was always a long shot, as it was the first case of its nature ever presented to the Supreme Court. Yes, you could make an argument that Texas voters *were* affected by other state governments acting unconstitutionally, but think about the precedent it would set if Texas’s creative explanation about standing was accepted.
Imagine if one state could sue another state because you could make the argument that another state’s internal affairs, in a chain of events, harmed them. California would sue every red state over voter ID laws “disenfranchising voters” after every presidential election. We would never hear the end of it. It would be utter chaos, and it would perhaps even be dangerous in the long run.
We shouldn’t be complaining about the SCOTUS. Back in late October, they accepted reasoning similar to Paxton’s when they struck down 5-3 a Wisconsin court’s decisions to allow late counting of ballots. Yes, even John Roberts, chief RINO justice, accepted the sound reasoning that only state legislatures could determine election laws. The SCOTUS is willing to play ball if we send them good cases. THEY WANT TO HELP US, especially Thomas and Alito (bless them). But we have to play by the rules!!! They don’t want another Bush v. Gore.
Giuiliani, Powell, Wood, and everybody else on the Stop the Steal team should have been focused on challenging the last minute, unconstitutional election rules in all of the battleground states. There have been several cases that were able to climb the ladder of appeals to the SCOTUS, so there’s no excuse for not assigning their best men on the job. Those cases would have perfectly valid standing. Their appeals to the constitutional would be acceptable according to our originalist-dominated court. And they wouldn’t be as dangerous as the Hell Mary lawsuit that Texas filed.
I get that the entire system is against us. There is so much election fraud that the mainstream media, social media, and others are working overtime to censor, deplatform, and propagandize in order to protect the narrative. Right now, Georgia officials are LYING in SWORN AFFIDAVITS that no Fulton County announcements were made (you know, the one that cleared out the election observers so they could start stuffing ballots). But we need to maintain our composure and keep our eyes on the prize. It’s not over yet. If we lose our minds over every little issue, then we will lose the opportunity to win.
What do you believe to be the next move? Serious question.
I am not feeling very hopeful at all.
I am, at this point, pretty much resigned to living in this nightmare.
Why do I some how feel like Obama’s name is all over this?
To be fair, we are running out of time. We need to go for the weakest link to cause a domino effect. Expose the GA election fraud. That is the greatest hope.
Recently, the GBI formed a special unit to investigate ~250 GA election irregularities, but there is no indication that they are prioritizing Fulton County or examining questionable absentee ballots. Public officials have also complained about a lack of money for such an endeavor, which cannot be fixed until January because the GA legislature is out of session. Finally, GA Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger and his cronies have been muddying the waters by lying about what happened in Fulton County on election night. They’ve released “debunkings”, but they were easily “debunked” themselves: https://thefederalist.com/2020/12/07/no-the-georgia-vote-counting-video-was-not-debunked-not-even-close/
So what do we do? We need to demand that Governor Kemp and the GA legislature meet so they can organize a thorough investigation of what happened that night. We must force them to do more than just a “risk-limiting audit” (a fancy, misleading term for recount) and actually conduct a forensic analysis (signature verification, address matching, etc.) of every absentee ballot scanned after election observers were told to go home.
There’s a reason why GOP establishment officials have committed to lying about what happened in Fulton County, even in sworn affidavits. They know they’ve been caught, and they are desperate to cover their tracks. Remember, the media narrative is slipping. First, it was “there was no election fraud!”, then it was “there was no widespread election fraud!” They have fully committed to big lie. Once Georgia election fraud is exposed, and Georgia flips to Trump, then the whole rotten facade will come crashing down.
If only….
“…conduct a forensic analysis (signature verification, address matching, etc.) of every absentee ballot scanned after election observers were told to go home.”
Problem there is those ballots were dumped into the entire batch. How can they identify which were secretly counted in the dead of night with no observers to verify?
Thats the plan. Commit the crime and hide the evidence in a mountain of legitimate ballots while claiming no irregularities, no fraud found. ( Because no one really looked) No forensic audit because no money until legislature returns (conveniently after the deadline to certify has passed)
Sorry, I very much disagree. Violations of the Constitution are violations of the Constitution. Rarely have there been more obvious violations. Not to listen, much less decide on those violations is justice malpractice.
Voter ID laws were constitutionally passed and implemented. So let the blue states sue. No big deal. It is the SC’s job to ensure Federal and State laws are lawful under the U. S. Constitution. That is their only job. Texas and other states who elected President Trump were harmed by the States that did not conduct their elections under State or Federal Constitutions.
The problem is not Trump’s team’s complaints, it is the State and Federal Courts unwillingness to even give them a hearing of the evidence. They are hiding from the truth that is obvious. They are not sequestered, they know the impossibility of what happened in this election. SC wants to put the onus on the State legislatures, state legislatures want the SC to bail them out. They are all cowards, unwilling to defend the U.S. and State Constitutions because they are afraid of the blowback from the left.
I agree there should have been earlier challenges but in my mind that is a minor point. If challenged at that point the courts would likely have said the challenges were not ripe. We need to understand we have a corrupt and politically biased judicial system in America at this point.
I’m no bush fam but I see nothing wrong with what the SC did in Bush v. Gore,
I agree with what you say. It is the nub of the issue but didn’t the PA Republicans go to the SC before the election about the issue of votes being received after 8.00pm. There was a tied vote and Alito asked ballots received after 8.00 be kept separate so they (SCOTUS) could revisit the issue after the election?
My point is they tried to go earlier but it has not helped.
“, but think about the precedent it would set if Texas’s creative explanation about standing was accepted.”
The Constitution says that *Controversies* between two or more States shall be *original jurisdiction* which means that Controversy is the “standing” required in the case of States -v- States.
The USSC can only decide what standing is relivant in cases where the Constitution doesn’t require it’s own level of standing be used, because the Constitution is superior to all laws and judicial rules.
Wrong. By publicly available evidence alone, the 2020 election was transparently fraudulent, to the point where the outcome was changed. (If you want to argue this, then what better venue.)
The Supreme Court did not take it up because if the evidence was made public through open argument they would have no choice but to nullify votes and open a huge can of worms. Simple as that.
Unless of course they were threatened…in which case there are resources to deal with that.
If Texas lost, fine. At least the case is heard. We deserve much better from the Court that to have them hiding under the table…or bench, whatever.
The Supreme Court ain’t that Supreme any longer.
Pay attention to this list of Chi-Com agents that just came out, you are about to find out you have a foreign enemy on your northern border.
Our govt here in Canada is infested with Fabian Communist psychopaths.
https://www.ntd.com/sidney-powell-trump-could-trigger-2018-executive-order-on-foreign-election-interference_539973.html
Sydney Powell mentioned the triggering of President Trumps EO. Wow!
“Could” is not equal to “Will”
Just like “Authorize” the AG does not equal “Order” the AG…
He would refuse anyway, and be loudly supported in that refusal by most Republicans and the entire media.
Well, the moment any Govt. Employee refuse to carry out a Lawfully executed Order, would they not be subject to immediate Arrest for Treason?
You think Trump is worried about support from the RINOs and the media?
Where have you been!
Many are missing the main point with that EO. It is RATCLIFF that determines if there was fraud, NOT any court. NO court ruling is needed. Ratcliff reports to the President that indeed there was massive fraud & conspiracy, including foreign interests (Frankfort servers etc) that changed the legitimate outcome of the Presidential election, and is a national security threat. Then the President decides what should be done about it, including declaring a National Emergency and using PEAD’s and NDAA provisions, and perhaps the Insurrection Act. All the tools in POTUS’s toolbox are on the table. Then, President Trump is in control, not corrupt courts.
I think there is far more evidence than servers on foreign soil. That is not so egregious, unless it can be show that foreign agents were manipulating the voting data. More egregious is the compromising relationships that many of our election officials have with foreign powers.
I am praying, and talking to my representatives. Continuing to live my freedome blatantly in front of everyone around me, serving, loving, and demonstrating the fruits of the True principles of God as I allow Him to make me better.
If needed I am ready to water the tree of liberty. Hopefully we won’t get to that point, and hopefully my show of readiness will be all that is needed.
The problem is who is going to investigate. Can’t trust Barr or the Intelligence Community. The only person who can appoint a Special Counsel is AG Barr. I doubt he would. Maybe an acting AG would.
What harms Texas is not HOW the tainted states put fraud-enabling rules in place. It is the fact that PA, GA, WI and Michigan DID put fraud-enabling rules in place, but nothing in the parts of the Constitution that Texas sued under says that these other states can’t set up phony elections, no matter how much it hurts the honest states.
Stopping phony elections was left by the founders to a DIFFERENT part of the Constitution: the Article IV guarantee to the states that each of them “shall have a republican form of government.”
Republicanism means “that the people should choose whom they please to govern them” (Alexander Hamilton).
Phony elections usurp the people’s choice so under Hamilton’s definition they are a definitively unrepublican form. That means states can’t have phony elections and if they do “The United States” is supposed to go in and CHANGE THEIR FORM OF GOVERNMENT!
Texas is indeed part of The United States and if they had sued under the guarantee clause I believe they could have succeeded, but there is a much better way to use the guarantee clause than by suing under it.
The president can enforce the guarantee clause on his own authority, without having to wait for any Court okay. Not only can he do it, he has a constitutional duty to do it. He just can’t wait too long or the opportunity will be missed.
The obvious first step is federal takeover of the Georgia runoffs. We can’t let Georgia use its rigged electoral system to steal the Senate two months after they just tried to use it to steal the presidency.
Federal takeover here is simple because it doesn’t require invalidating any already-conducted election. That is a big hurdle in itself and having a guarantee clause action that can be taken without having to clear that hurdle offers a clean entry for establishing the presidency’s never before used power to enforce the republican guarantee.
What Texas did, getting 19 states to officially declare that they consider elections in four fraud-enabling states to be invalid, puts a huge political army in back of any guarantee clause enforcement action that President Trump takes.
It’s the perfect tee-up for Trump to act but his lawyers seem to be oblivious to the opportunity. They don’t seem to understand that he can act on his own authority to enforce the republican guarantee.
That is probably because SCOTUS has repeatedly ruled the guarantee clause to be “nonjusticiable” in the cases brought before it. But that just means they found that THEY could not enforce it, not that other branches can’t. Just the opposite, the reason they demurred was because the cases they heard were raising “political questions” that they held could ONLY be settled by the other branches of government.
Where judicial reticence worked against Texas with its not-to-the-point grounds for suit it will work in favor of any republican enforcement action that POTUS takes. The Court’s precedents are strongly on the side of the political branches taking precedence here.
Thus the path to presidential enforcement of the republican guarantee is actually wide open! So how do we clue Trump’s team in on this open path to saving the nation?
How about asking Texas AG Ken Paxton to demand guarantee clause enforcement from the president?
Here is Paxton’s online comment form (limited to 400 characters):
https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/contact-us-online-form
And here is a possible note to send:
Please appeal Texas v. PA to the CORRECT authority for interdicting election fraud: not SCOTUS but POTUS!
It is the unrepublican nature of the phony-democracies in PA, GA, WI and MI that hurts the honest states. POTUS must use his inherent authority under the Art. IV republican guarantee to order federal take-over of the GA runoffs.
See: https://tinyurl.com/yxudnocz
End of Paxton note
We might just need to reach this one man. If Paxton, speaking for 19 states, can put this demand to our great President then Trump will finally be alerted to his Art. IV power and can use it to save our republic. Let’s give our fighter the weapon he needs to win!
Alec,I have thought about Article IV many times over the past year. Not only is it applicable to the election fraud issues, it is also applicable to the covid lockdowns. Where are the legislatures? I thought they passed laws and the governor could either sign them or veto them. The legislatures have been cut out of the equation. That means our representative form of government has ceased to exist.
Government by edict is not a republican form of government.
Patty.that idea of your’s would set the cat amongst the pigeons.But just who will enforce this ruling?The leaders in the pentagon?So far they have shown themselves to be the enemy of”The People”General Flynn may hold some sway over the rank and file,BUT who knows???
Alec: thank you!
I just sent the short version you provided to AG Ken Paxton.
I also sent a full copy of your excellent full comment to President Trump (in 3 emails that “…continued to next message …”) at wh.gov/contact
Thank you, Alec!
I sent the suggested text to AG Paxton! Will share to others as well.
if dimunist biden is the president the SC is done the 3 new SC judges will have to sit on the stinkin bench for the rest of their lives… If civil war comes win or lose their days are numbered.
It is really just this simple for me… Since “no standing” is the judicial answer to election fraud, Biden/Harris likewise have no standing through the same election fraud.
Point is: PDJT didn’t have the political support from the SCOTUS.
Biden/Harris will have more support than PDJT.
I think Alito was signalling to PDJT…sorry,but you won’t get the support here.
They did POTUS a favor by NOT ruling on the merit; which takes the wind out of the Dem’s sails…IMHO.
Words matter.
Sundance’s Topic refers to “SCOTUS decision to ignore their Constitutional authority…”
But they ignored their “Constitutional RESPONSIBILITY…”
This kind of dispute between states is precisely why they “SHALL” have original jusisdiction.
There is massive harm alleged (false election affecting the Executive governing Texas), there is required original jurisdiction. Illegal voting is alleged. Many remedies are available.
The SCOTUS is derelict in its duty.
and if they take no cases or take them and state there was no provable wrongdoing…then what?
I ask this because I have never been of the Opinion that simply because a “Supreme Court” says it is so, does not ever make it so, as there is zero guarantee that unelected people will ever act Objectively and not Subjectively. This is the Achille’s Heal of our entire Legal System…always has been.
Did you guys that there was a time when the Supreme Court actually deserved their title of being the highest court in the land due to their extremely large workload?
For example, the Supreme Court under former Chief Justice Edward Douglass White Jr. heard 8000 cases every year during a time in America when neither air conditioning nor summer vacation were available to the masses.
Back then, being a Supreme Court justice meant you would be given an extreme workload that would make the majority of the population want to quit or retire early, which helped to partly weed out cowardly, duplicitous, and weak candidates for the Supreme Court.
However, after WW2, the Supreme Court started looking less “supreme” as they started taking less and less cases, acting more like politicians rather than judges, legislating from the bench, and usurping powers not only from the Legislative Branch but the Executive Branch as well.
Can all of you even imagine current or recently retired Supreme Court justices capable of handling a workload of 8000 cases a year without being given any summer vacation at all?
If you can’t imagine any current Supreme Court justice capable of handling such a workload, then they do not deserve being called a Supreme Court justice at all.
“Edward Douglass White Jr. (November 3, 1845 – May 19, 1921) was an American politician and jurist from Louisiana. He was a United States Senator and the ninth Chief Justice of the United States.
He served on the Supreme Court of the United States from 1894 to 1921.
As chief justice at a time when the Court’s work was carried out with more than 8,000 cases brought each year before the court, and only a few clerks to work for all the members of the Court, the Chief Justice held weekly meetings with fellow jurists, assigned all the cases and wrote the majority opinions in 711 cases, as well as 155 dissenting opinions, all opposing income taxes.”
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Marshall
I just noticed that I linked the wrong Wikipedia article to a different person when I originally meant to link the Wikipedia article about Edward Douglass White, instead.
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Douglass_White
Yeah–SCOTUS punted on this one. But there are other cases headed their way so maybe they will find standing yet. Somebody better, whether its state or federal, legislative, judicial or executive.
Someone has to give standing to the 80 million Americans who re-elected the President in a landslide because, frankly, it feels like we’re again drifting into a Fort Sumter-moment of National Disaster.
Dred Scot Democrats once said the black man had no rights they were bound to respect. Now, Dominion Democrats claim Trump voters have no rights they’re bound to respect. If the System ratifies this industrial-scale election theft, Democrats and Swamp RINOs will never again relinquish that power without blows.
We already don’t agree that we’re One Nation Under God. We don’t agree what a man is or what a woman is. We don’t agree on what a marriage is or what a baby is. We don’t agree any longer on Free Speech or Censorship or the Bill of Rights. We don’t agree on the News, or Sports or the Weather or Medicine. We don’t agree that we should have Borders. And we don’t agree on Law and Order, Two-Tiered Justice and whether the CIA and FBI should spy on our opponents.
And now we’re not even going agree on the very way we settle these issues peacefully. We don’t agree that we should have honest elections.
Someone had damn well better find standing for the American People and soon, or they may find themselves without any standing themselves. As President Lincoln put it:
“Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves; and under the rule of a just God, cannot long retain it.”
Don’t ask him how he knows. Just agree that he has the standing to say so.
Impressive post Gipper.
Thank you.
well and succinctly stated
So.lock and load is the answer gipper?
I would say, work the steps of the Constitution, be civil, but let it be clearly seen that we are not to be trifled with.
So all the future “momentous” SC decisions will be nothing more than rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.
…and the Band played on…
I miss that fiery voice of truth so much! Some day I pray that we find out what REALLY happened to him!!
Me too.
We should ask Justice Scalia or Seth Rich.
Forgive me for being a LOTR fan I have been seing the similarities between the growing power of Sauron and where we are today! The SCOTUS dodge made me think…9 supremes, 9 Nazgul. Once human, they lost their humanity by coveting rings of power. Our Supremes have become shadows of themselves by ignoring the constitution in a hope to maintain their power and status. They are lost because they chose their position over their oath. Would be cool to have some one with graphic art skills put their faces inside the dark hoods of Tolkein’s ring wraiths. I’ve been a follower for years, just figured my first post would be a corny one.
and that’s precisely the problem that always happens when “Man” creates a body of Men whom are called “Supreme” to all others, are unelected, essentially unremovable and unaccountable to no one. Anyone with common sense should have seen this coming from a mile away. The Founding Fathers surely knew that they were creating this kind of a problem…and knew that they were essentially ditching a Monarchy for an Aristocracy. Are we really being Governed…or Ruled?
There are plenty of Thomas Jefferson quotes about “judicial tyranny” if you search for them online.
For example, Thomas Jefferson highly disapproved of Marbury vs Madison.
The Founding Fathers should have deported the entire Supreme Court back to England after Marbury vs Madison and hastily call for a new Constitutional Convention to strictly limit the power of judges even further in our country.
Maybe the Founding Fathers should have considered changing the name of the “Supreme Court” as well since it only served to inflate the egos of Supreme Court justices into believing they know the Constitution far better than even the Founding Fathers, themselves!
46 Days…………..
It only took PT 46 days to expose ACB and her “brothers” – A New World Record
and now that they are “exposed”…What?
When she said she cried over Fentanyl Floyd’s death with her adopted daughter I knew she was a squish at best. I had low expectations. Only you can say is that she is better than RBG.
Floyd violated parole and overdosed on 4X the Fentanyl and Meth needed to kill himself. The autopsy report showed no strangulation or asphyxiation and keeping a Fentanyl overdose “victim” totally immobile is standard ER medical procedure until the EMT arrives which is typically too late to save the victim.
Oklahoma AG Mike Hunter filed an amicus brief to SCOTUS about the Pa. Sup. Ct. decision to require the state to count mail-in ballots received up to three days after the election. Hunter filed six days after the election, addressing similar constitutional issues as in the Texas case. Nebraska, Missouri, Kansas, Indiana, Tennessee and West Virginia joined Oklahoma as amici curiae in support of the Republican Party of Pennsylvania. It appears the case is still pending, the last filings on November 30, 2020. I found nothing about the case anywhere else.
We might be having a different discussion if the Texas case hadn’t focused so much on the defendant states’ election practices. Hunter stayed on point with the federal election and constitutional requirements to provide an expeditious vote counting process and to ensure confidence in election integrity. His excellent brief was filed on November 9, 2020. It will be interesting to find out whether a decision comes out tomorrow on the Pa. Republican Party’s petition for writ of certiorari.
https://www.scotusblog.com/election-litigation/pennsylvania-democratic-party-v-boockvar/
It is clearly acceptable with the Supreme Court for Presidential elections to be stolen by the fascist democRAT-Communist party.
The Legal “Profession” is nothing more than a Joke…always has been.
We must accept things as they are, not as we wish them to be.
All say SCOTUS is non-political.
Hogwash.
We all know SCOTUS is political, and has been for a very long time.
We have some of the finest legal minds assembled supporting Team Trump, run by the legal mind who took down the Mafia and Wall Street. Our attorneys range from elder statesmen to young kids just getting started.
Meanwhile, another avenue is up to us – calling, writing, emailing your Representatives, both state and federal, and make your wishes known. Loudly.
Yes, Dinesh DeSouza is correct.
But that is not today’s reality.
You know what works in your local community. Suggest other avenues to try here.
Time to get to work. Time’s a-wastin’.
Good Ideas & Advice. However, what was it, exactly, that happened in order to ensure the actual “founding” of our Country…Words?, Talk?, or Violence against those with whom we disagreed? I actually wonder what is wrong with the phrase used by others…”By any means necessary”?
maybe the supremes were thinking the state legislatures could take care of this on their own thru the electoral votes
It is what it is..
We appealed to the highest court in the land.. and all they did was give us the finger..
They don’t want to have anything to do with us..
..so why file again..
It did achieve a purpose though..
The world now knows that the Texas Republic has exhausted all peaceful means of co-existence within The Union as a Nation-State member..
Texas now looks forward to a new age of fresh international alliances and customers..
We have much to offer in trade for peace, prosperity.. and protection..
..just have your peeps call my peeps..
The reason for refiling again is likely to see how long the Supreme Court can continue giving unsigned orders due to their utter cowardice and because the Supreme Court provided no reason for why their claim that Texas has no standing in their unsigned order.
Why are unsigned orders even allowed in the first place, especially from the Supreme Court?
President Trump went to the wall for the last three of those cowards and they don’t have the integrity to assess the case on its merits. Shameful.
All Gorsuch, Kavanagh and ACB want from President Trump is to have him go away!
I am actually happy that the Texas case got dismissed, especially after seeing the Texas GOP statement afterward. It read like a prelude to secession and civil war between the red states and the blue states. That’s not what any reasonable American should want at this stage because there are still a number of ways to come out of this with the country intact and Trump remaining in office.
The Texas case was an easy win.. too easy. I saw it as a GOP establishment setup. Paxton has legal troubles that could have been used as leverage to stage this. Remember, the corrupt GOP is as threatened by Trump remaining in office as the Dems are. Anyway, it was very dangerous seeing the states taking sides like that. Not surprised at all that SCOTUS terminated the suit, and though it came as a blow to morale for the people, I suspect we dodged a bullet.
The Texas lawsuit was a litmus test for the Supreme Court and now there is precedent for the Supreme Court to reject state versus state disputes even though according to the Constitution, the Supreme Court was literally created by the Founding Fathers to handle state versus state disputes.
Where does it say in the Constitution that the Supreme Court is allowed to refuse or reject a hearing of a state versus state dispute?
What is the point of a Supreme Court, then?
Can’t sue before the electors meet because no harm has been evidences by the plaintif.
Can’t sue after the electors meet because they should have filed sooner.