Appearing with Fox News Maria Bartiromo, Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton outlines his state’s legal and constitutional position on election fraud that disenfranchises his citizens. If Texas has no “standing” then how are we to remain The United States.
As Paxton rightly notes if electoral nullification is not in the constitutional purview of the Supreme Court then what is? The electors clause is in the Constitution for a reason… and the Tree of Liberty is quite parched at this specific moment in history.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDPfQFuzd98
It might, very small ‘might‘, be argued the constitutional “harm” has not yet evidenced as electors have not yet presented themselves. However, the SCOTUS ruling would likely have inferred that position.
Texas AG Paxton does not appear to be positioned to re-file after 12/14/20.
I’ll say it again……….
PT is the best at exposing people!
I hate saying this but I will…
It turns out Justice Kavanaugh was a rapist after all.
Sadly, you may be right.
What? Of our vote?
The body politic
Actually I think he was a big crybaby.
I said from the get go I did not trust Kavanaugh at all and that conservatives would regret rallying to his cause. His ties to Bush and writing the Patriot Act showed him for what he is all along.
The character assassins who attacked Kavanaugh had him figured for gutless. They got part of it right, just not the charges.
Agreed
This has been incredible to watch. Just incredible.
“…and the Tree of Liberty is quite parched at this specific moment in history.”
Love your metaphors ?
It’s not a metaphor.
Let me help you –
METAPHOR: A metaphor is a figure of speech that, for rhetorical effect, directly refers to one thing by mentioning another.
The tree of Liberty is “The Tree of Liberty” . Period.
Go help yourself. Patriots consider it a Noun.
Patriotism 100%
Comprehension 0
It is not wise to be threatening violence at this point & plays into the hands of your enemies.
At what point should we threaten violence? When the country is completely taken over by the communists? When they’ve taken our guns. Or when they put YOU in a re-education camp for wrong thinking. Tell me, at what point should we defend the U. S. CONSTITUTION.
One more thing. As everyone can see I use my given name. I am not afraid. I understand why Sundance doesn’t. Like Thomas Paine and Benjamin Franklin wrote under pseudonyms Sundance does the same for our protection. We however should protect the leaders of our New Revolution at all costs. They are our conspirators. For me and my house, Give me liberty or give me death. I will not submit.
Sorry. Spellcheck got me. Inspirers.
You have my full support and full name too. I don’t intend to hide. Please note, my 13 yr. old son was in tears Friday evening when we learned of the SCOTUS decision and he asked me what has become of our Nation and saddened he has to grow up in this corrupt, leftist banana republic. Imagine what we are leaving our children.
He sounds like an outstanding young man. It appears that the apple did not fall far from the tree. God bless you and yours, Gary. You have taught your son well.
Tell your son God is in control. Tell him our president is working for all Americans, and this current situation is not over, not by a long shot, there is still much we can all do. And specifically, a lot more our President can do.
Tell him, just as it was at the birth of this nation, there a good people who are fighting in the trenches to root out the corruption and right the wrongs.
Tell him he is living through some of the most important events this nation will ever face. It is a present, real time, set of events that will be prominent in world history and he will have lived through it.
Then tell him no matter what happens, he is loved by you and more importantly the FATHER. GOD will never forsake you or your son and if you trust HIM you will understand your home is not in this world. This is a tiny blip in eternity, and it too shall pass.
Not having children of my own, I just felt compelled to say something, tho I am sure you have fathered your son far better then these meager words.
God bless fathers during this time, as there is so much more they have to prepare their children for.
What a wonderful message.
Amen, Doug.
Timothy. Totally understand and actually agree with you. I just want to point out that the main difference between now and 1776 is technology. The capability exists to penetrate any pseudonym. I consider my ‘handle’ being just like locking my house. It keeps out those least dangerous.
There are those who utilize screen names as symbols.
I intend to live up to my own, if, and when,
the need arises – as appears to be occurring in present
circumstances. My students gave this screen name to me
more than 20 years ago. I’ll never walk away from it.
I pray they were right.
It is funny you wrote that to me. My nick name in high school was bear. When i went to college an entirely different group of guys began calling me bear. I’m stuck with it, and I don’t mind.
I have nothing against using a pseudonym. I do understand protecting ones identity in these technological times. But as I should have died in three separate incidents over my life, I have zero fear of death. When it’s my time I will go like all before me. I will be fighting like hell before I go. If I can do it for my family, my religion, and my country it will be a good ending.
We have a great deal in common! I also have checked out three times. Each day is a gift. Live your life to the fullest. Love your family and your faith. Be secure knowing each of us have an expiration date. Have a Great and very Merry Christmas!
Found in the bin….again. 🙁
We have a great deal in common! I also have checked out three times. Each day is a gift. Live your life to the fullest. Love your family and your faith. Be secure knowing each of us have an expiration date. Have a Great and very Merry Christmas!
Sorry Bear….just found both of your comments in the bin . 🙁
😉 Wow! Once in a bin, out of mind for me!! You are too good. Thank you.
There must be an eternal reason for my life to hsve been spared several times. I don’t know exactly why I am still here; such will be revealed to me after I enter into eternity. My physical body belongs to my Savior.
There is an eternal reason, you were spared because our Heavenly Father had further plans for you.
God Bless
Violence is best when it’s not threatened at all.
Not a threat. For me it’s a promise. But don’t worry, I’ll be fighting communists while you’re worrying whether a threat makes them upset. Sorry Ad Rem.
That apology to Ad rem was warranted. You are fortunate
our Ad rem adheres to strict standards of courtesy.
We pull together here. We don’t go looking for reasons
to aggrandize ourselves with delusions of “who’s the bravest?”.
There is no question in my mind about where Treepers stand,
and how they will respond.
I grew up as the smallest guy in my class every year. I can’t tell you how many fights I was able to avoid just by telling the other guy exactly what I was going to do to him. Threats work if you have the guts to back them up. I never make a threat unless I really mean it.
I also apologize to any I may have offended here.
Never apologize, ever.
Follow POTUS Trump’s
lead, you said it obviously
you meant it.
….and for the record I
agreed with you.
I interpreted the statement differently. For me, it is that bullies and posers threaten, warriors act. Thus violence is best when delivered approriately, not because one is saving face.
So now I’m either a bully or a poser. This has nothing to do with saving face. This is all about saving our country. I volunteered to join the air force in 1974 when practically no one respected our military. Call me a poser. But you’ve not lived the life I have. I should like to meet you in person so you can find out if I’m a bully or a poser for real. Have a good day. Ad rem.
VERY WELL SAID…I would rather stand beside a fighter who fights for what is right than one who is using words!!!
Right answer.
Violence is best when they don’t realize to what lengths we will go to defend ourselves, our families and friends, our communities, our states, our country and our President.
They think we will turn and dive for cover like the politicians who have destroyed this Republic.
How wrong they will be.
When they take guns consider it ‘game over’.
I pray President Trump takes action soon.
In Ca, it’s very difficult for gun owners to get ammo.
If you own property, you should be able to go out and dig it up.
Exactly. Why should people need to buy ammo now? they should have had a stash for a couple decades, or at least years.
Good grief…
Don’t bother threatening. Either we do it or we put up with the situation. What’s the good in threats?
I can imagine a WWII type European resistance coming…but there won’t be a USA to march in and save us. Our government has failed us and they’re making sure of it. These court decisions are unbelievable.
When you threaten them they know you’re coming.
Never announce your plans.
So true.
I think I am as outraged as anyone with this massive coordinated criminal fraud. I am praying that the Patriots that have so mightily fought this ongoing legal battle will prevail. The alternative is unthinkable. BUT, let us reflect a moment. If those disenfranchised did rise up and use violence to right these wrongs, will we expose our country to outsiders that may see this as once in lifetime opportunity to try and assert military power over a divided USA? Grave consequences ahead my fellow Patriots.
If they happen to be Chinese communists…. put them in their grave.
If they attack I am hoping our military will be busy fending off that attack while patriots take care of the home grown problem.
In my opinion, if while we were in open turmoil another country attacked us on our own soil, it would be a lighting bolt and thunderclap awakening for all Americans.
The kind that congeals a nation and strikes fear in the world.
NO ONE WILL DARE
with that scenario, why hasn’t anyone attacked France? they have been going at their goober mint for a couple years now.
If the Constitution truly is a document of Freedom, then why has this document always been interpreted to mean (by a majority or mob) that once a State joins, it cannot ever legally, peacefully leave? And if any State ever does, then the Federal Government (or Mob of the other States) can simply decide that the leaving State is wrong and the Govt. is within its rights to kill enough people of that State until they realize that it is they whom committed the wrongdoing. What a System.
My simple answer….For me, the U.S. Constitution is a covenant, a contract, an agreement. If any party breaks covenant, breaks the terms of the agreement, then I don’t see why a party (state) is obligated to remain in a covenant whereby the terms and agreements are not honored and in the instant case, blatantly dishonored.
For, example, the 1st sentence of the Constitution is: “We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice,”
If SCOTUS does not give justice to a state (TX) suing other states via the original jurisdiction, they have not honored a term discussed in the Constitution.
If justice is denied, what obligation does a state have to remain part of the “united” body?
A simple concept, but the basic question.
I agree, but didn’t the Majority of the States in the Federal Govt. decide way back when that no State had a right to legislatively Secede?…and if any State does it anyway, it is the Fed Govt. that is in the “right” to make said seceding forcibly remain in the Union?
Time will tell if that is honored.
I absolutely agree.
As long as President Trump is in office violence us definitely and totally counter productive. Extreme civil disobedience based on ahimsa, as also expressed by Christ, would be, in my view, far more effective.
How effective would your method have been if it were employed in 1776 I wonder?
Ahimsa (also spelled Ahinsa) (Sanskrit: अहिंसा IAST: ahiṃsā, Pāli: avihiṃsā) (“nonviolence”) is an ancient Indian principle of nonviolence which applies to all living beings. It is a key virtue in Hinduism, Buddhism and Jainism.. Ahimsa is one of the cardinal virtues of Jainism, where it is first of the Pancha Mahavrata.It is also the first of the five precepts of Buddhism.
As I posted concerning the 5 tenants of CTH, I thought a focal point of action should have been included. How and who can we use to laser focus our discontent if not someone leading that effort.
Like for example, lets stop using you tube. They hate us, why continue supporting them? Lets make it a movement, find another non-google site to post and replay content.
there is a season….
you know the rest
I think most conservatives are good moral people that won’t initiate violence up to a point. Once they to ban the implements of an enumerated constitutional right, or turn that right into a privilege, this will light the fuse that will likely result in violence against politicians. I hope it doesn’t come to that because Civil War will hurt the innocent too.
I’m actually surprised it hasn’t happened already. Americans lives have been destroyed by Progressive Democrat governors enabled by the mainstream media. The mainstream media is just as guilty as the governors. Anyone who chooses to protect these politicians whether as security or through propaganda have chosen money over the rights of their fellow Americans. People are losing everything. Progressives think this will push Americans toward universal basic income. I suspect they will be proven wrong.
Think about it, “they” have already taken our voice in the form of rigged elections. They have taken our freedoms of association and movement using the plandemic. They have implimented population control killing MILLIONS OF BABIES, and the elderly, more recently, again with the plandemic.
They have elected a dementia patient to the office of President, and with him a person who again by constitutional standards is not even eligible to hold the office of VP, soon to be President.
The dems fomented civil unrest after a criminal resisted arrest and died which cost this nation billions. Then they made him a martyr gave him 5 funerals and paid his estate a fortune to balm the pain of this grievous loss.
So far Conservatives labor in rigged court rooms and send strongly worded letters.
What we lack is a leader to focus our strongly held beliefs and principles!
As I said on another thread,I’m afraid we’re already at the point of civil war,but we just don’t know who to shoot at…
I don’t know either but a very long list of communists was released today. How about starting with the ones in the USA.
?? please study carefully…
GROAN….
There is only 2 ways to resolve the conflict. Peaceful mean thru the court like most of the time or something we call “Civil War” when the peaceful mean exhausted.
Pres. Trump is the commander in chief and I and others will follow is leadership.
Right on zephr. PDJT has got this under control.
With all due respect, “under control” is not what I would use as the terminology to describe what President Trump has been subjected to over the last 4 years. Especially when a whole lot of what has happened to him was facilitated by members of his own “Party”.
Malice in thought, word and deed
toward President Trump
has not been under his control;
notwithstanding the malice,
he has kept himself
and his cheerful nature
remarkably under control.
How does a “cheerful nature” prevent bad people from doing bad things to him and the Country? As of right now they are getting away with it, are they not?
AND most of us who took the oath: ” AGAINST ALL ENEMIES BOTH FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC”!!!
Found two of your comments in the bin…. 🙁
That’s alright Ad-Rem…been there done that…30 yrs engineering/programming…takes awhile to work the kinks out…Much appreciate the emails on this though…Make sure you take in some of the courvoisier…Have a good one and Merry Christmas…
And that oath I also took didnt have a experation date,
Didn’t most of the Southern States use “Peaceful” means to Legislatively Secede? And wasn’t it the Mob of Northern States that essentially used Mob Rule to Forcibly stop them? I do not think it was ever spelled out to anyone at the time when they voted to join the United States that, once you joined, you had no legal right to ever leave, even peacefully via the Legislature of the individual State.
Lincoln was a dictator who worshipped the Union. The Southern People be damned. A damned Federalist.
The South was largely Anti-federalist; the North was Federalist… big-govt, bankers, central power lovers, central bankers, in an industrialized North. They always thought they knew better than those rube Southerners, and pummeled the South with tariff policies.
And it’s the SAME GUYS, the SAME FORCE, the SAME DISREGARD FOR THE WELL-BEING OF OTHERS.
Many of the courts and now the SC seem to be compromised, IMO.
If your opponents don’t fear you , you have nothing.
Remember, we have always been peaceful because we had the vote. We no longer have the vote. All systems of government refuse to hear/see evidence even when they say, “You’ve no evidence.”
We no longer have the vote.
If you have a different plan, please, I am all ears.
taxation without representation
denied redress
rights dissolved
unlawful exercise of unconstitutional power.
this is no longer a democratic republic
this is PRECISELY what the early americans faced every day, and it got worse until the levy broke.
if americans left and right do not understand the peril we face right now…and most of them do not. that’s fine….it will happen…it is going to become painful.
as a reminder there were early skirmishes well before the “official start” of the revolutionary battles.
as with the early history, we are in the legal phase….and at each turn our demands and asks for compromise have been ignored…in the most humiliating way. (re: we don’t care to even listen to your complaints…go sit back down and stop asking)
we WILL reach phase two..it’s inevitable.
this threat is NOT going to magically dissolve….the pain and the displacement of freedoms and security will erode.
that’s phase two…all legal options exhausted…and the control begins on rocket fuel.
in phase three, it’s skirmishes. Pockets of Patriots, who are experiencing real harm will (and should) lash out. It will be violent.
in phase 4, a monstrous reaction from the overlords will occur.
this will create the tie breaker for many who are sitting on the fence. They will see goon squads arresting people in their homes and charging and jailing them with ridiculous crimes..even just by association.
this WILL happen.
history shows this is the pattern. there has never been a peaceful resolution to these kinds of conflict EVER IN HISTORY, when former freedoms are stripped. Those particularly enjoyed and rightfully coded into the culture and law. No nation has ever gone from a lawful democracy into rampant lawlessness from main government WITHOUT VIOLENCE.
so, when I say, stay frosty…I mean ever single definition of that advice.
prepare yourselves…get your house in order.
get right with god, and protect your families.
there is NO ONE going to come to your rescue. You are alone. It’s just you.
now, you might feel the need to start organizing.
it would be prudent.
God Bless America
Yes.
Don’t take the bait. Pres. Trump and his team have multiple options for a way forward.
Pres. Trump is a closer, with all the best assets on his side including the prayers of millions here and around the world.
In the end – we win.
Hold on tight.
Be Patient.
If “Prayers of Millions” working was actually a quantifiable “thing” and will work now for an Election, why then, since recorded History began, have Innocent Hundreds of Millions been slaughtered for no real good reason? I simply do not find it credible that God would answer Prayers to stop Man from rigging an Election, yet not have stepped in over the past 2 Millenia to stop the abject slaughter of hundreds of millions of completely innocent Souls…completely make no logical sense to me.
You sound like the Jews who stayed in Germany because they thought Hitler wasn’t a problem until they were sent to the concentration camps.
??
I suppose Mr. Adamson is of the impression that the Colonists first tried to assert Independence “peacefully”…and exhausted all peaceful avenues prior to violent ones.
It’s America. The threat of violence is implicit 24×7.
You’re absolutely right. And anyone here who says anything otherwise is baiting people or unhinged.
I’m noticing this dangerous trend more in comment sections recently.
The Colonists violently overthrew the English Crown. Please explain the difference as to why that was OK to do then but is not now. Are not the fundamental principles the same?
Was the crown against the colonists? Yes. Is the current executive branch against we the people?
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I for one have very little confidence in ANY court delivering any form of Justice…
The State Legislatures are also beginning to worry me… While Rs control the legislatures in
all six swing states, it only takes a handful of Rinos to let the Ds do as they want…
Ultimately, it will be up to PT and a few trust worthy allies to redirect this fraud…
Either PT has the goods and is about to drop the MOAB or he doesn’t… Waiting for a
Court or state legislature to do their duty is a fools game…
God please continue to Bless America again…
Doesn’t the proof of fraud come first? The Texas lawsuit seemed to come out of nowhere, esp since the fraud investigation isn’t over yet.
This is constitution issue. Either PA,MI,WI,GA violated the US Constitution when their election methods were changed by SOS, Governor, or Judges which contradicts the Constitution explicit states that only State Legislature is authorized to set the election law. Seem very simple and straight forward Constitution issue and USSC dodged it
“Lack of standing” was Obama’s favorite legal gambit.
Now “The Second Coming”….”Slouching towards Bethlehem”.
An intruder breaks into your home, shoots a loved one then aims at you. You have not proven your loved one is hurt, you have not proven the intruder means to pull the trigger again, you do have a shotgun loaded with double ought buck. Your move ginger gal.
BTW the courts don’t seem to recognize “standing” since November 3rd.
?
The evidence of fraud is voluminous.
Statistical impossibilities are routinely considered damning evidence by Courts.
To turn that evidence into proof needs a Court case….that day in Court has so far been refused.
The Texas suit was about the constitiutional issues and injury to Texas and then look at fraud and then to ask for a remedy, more or less.
Every state, including the 5 battleground states, ought to file the same Texas Complaint (with Texas re-filing theirs) within an hour of the Electoral College’s vote. Mass rallies of protest should then be conducted throughout the country, followed by a general strike. Let our representatives and SCOTUS know for whom they work!
There is no Supreme Court, only Supreme Cowards.
The brave Justices ran away,
Bravely ran away, away.
When massive fraud reared its ugly head, they bravely turned tail and fled.
Yes, the brave Justices turned about
And gallantly, they chickened out.
Bravely taking to their feet,
They beat a very brave retreat,
Bravest of the brave, the brave Justices
The problem I have always had with the “Supreme Court” is that, in practical application & effect, their “Name” is just a fancy way of stating and applying another invented form of Mob Rule. The Majority Rules, and there is no guarantee that any Ruling is Objective rather than Subjective. The fact that these people are unelected, with lifetime tenure is also disturbing. The Founding Fathers were great at pontificating “Theory”, the Government that they created, in actual practice, is really not much different from the Monarchy that they forcibly overthrew.
The Dems have stated that they will use any means necessary to have their way. Pelosi said that the ballots don’t matter, Biden will be president. Biden said, We have the best fraud plan, etc. He also said, I don’t need your vote.
Perhaps the three new justices have been threatened with harm to themselves or their loved ones.
In fact, the democrats on the Supreme Court never follow the constitution. The system is broken and corrupt.
The USSC dodged and telegraph future 2020 lawsuits “Go away, we are not interest in election 2020. Don’t look for us to give relief”. Ladies and Gentlemen, we are on our own. Adjust your expectation accordingly.
SCOTUS will not now nor ever overturn this election. No matter how many lawsuits are filed, no matter how much concrete evidence is presented, they want no part of this. Period.
As you say, we are on our own. Adjustments have been made.
And when we take our county back, Roberts, Kavanaugh and the 3 demoncrat liberals go out the door.
It is possible that 7 of them will be seen as traitors, people who had at their disposal the means for a peaceful course to justice. Failure to act bringing a terrible consequence may mean that they will not “go out the door” but rather something else comes their way.
the USSC was never asked NOR WOULD IT DARE to overturn any election.
the request for leave to file was to hear a constitution argument of unparalleled importance.
the consequences of a USSC decision, provided it is based squarely on the correct reading and reasoning of the constitution will never and should never be made to be accountable to what happens to an election based on that decision.
think of it this way….a judge in your town is hearing a case about a murder. They hear the evidence, because the a crime is alleged. they rule on the case presented to them.
should it happen that the local state needs to clean up the mess that created the opportunity for such a crime, is under no circumstances the priority for the high court.
should the state law be COMPELLED to make their laws correct as a consequence of the high court decision….definitely, if it is practical and it makes sense..and MORE IMPORTANTLY, IF THE LEGISLATURES AND ELECTED OFFICIALS REPRESENTING THE PEOPLE OF THAT STATE MAKE IT SO.
don’t get confused about this. We are NOT seeking the high courts to make law, or to overturn an election.
we are asking them to rule on a constitutional matter because THE LAW WAS NOT FOLLOWED.
period.
ultimately, WE THE PEOPLE, and in particular, WE THE PEOPLE of each of these 4 states, MUST DEMAND BY PETITION, PROTEST, and EVEN IF IT BECOMES REQUIRED, BY DISOBEDIENCE TO THE LAW, to demonstrate OUR WILL to correct this lawlessness.
If you get the impression this is fighting fire with fire, you have missed the entire foundational experience of what makes america truly great.
when all other legal and process remedies have been exhausted, there is but ONE remedy that remains.
and the founders WERE VERY VERY CLEAR ABOUT THAT OPTION…Available to any American citizen who establishes and presents their sovereign power
it is located in the 2nd amendment.
I highly recommend everyone understand what it means.
and if you have ANY doubts, then inspect history…and how and why our early american citizens went to war and the very first thing the founders did was to identify the firewall against a tyrannt main government that refuses to act in accordance with the will of the people, refuses to even discuss disputes.
I am NOT calling for a kinetic reaction here. I am saying plainly that should it come down to protecting my liberties and my freedoms from a tyranny lawless corrupt main government, I am well within my rights to FIGHT AGAINST THOSE TRANSGRESSORS!
and you know what…even if it was not written and illuminated as my right, I would still do it.
just as the first early americans didn’t go around ASKING FOR FREAKING PERMISSION TO WIN THEIR FREEDOMS.
so lets dispense with the confusion.
stay frosty….
the reckoning is coming.
prepare
Well hope the lowest lowlife court in the land cowards do not have any chinese benefactors etc.
https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2018/09/14/2018-20203/imposing-certain-sanctions-in-the-event-of-foreign-interference-in-a-united-states-election
Look at all the activity that has happened i just a few days and hours. Today Gen Flynn was on his patio, go up went to the railing and Yelled RELEASE THE KRAKEN. On his twitter.
Earlier today GF was on maria B and said PT must execute the above order now.
Two earlier Generals we all know a few days also called on PT to do it.
What has been released today and the last few days about China Influence.
Notice the photos at the bottom Sundances post toady.. Trump turning to face Mnuchin who has a large Sh t eating grin smile on his face. Mnuchin if you read the order appears to the be the lead on gathering this info. Always Mnuchin first followed by others.
Military Tribunals for state sponsored crimes against the US, and treasonous behavior by Americans.
Let the Tribunals begin!!
Yep, there is no institution left to remedy this fraud and it is likely why the democrats did it as there is never a consequence for their actions, which is what we have seen for the past 4 years. There is no longer a blindfold on Lady Justice as no democrats are held accountable. Election fraud is now legalized too, which is why there is a huge problem going forward. These things can not stand.
“Tree of Liberty is quite parched at this specific moment in history.”
The electors via State Legislator is the way to restore the Republic. Then you will see States interview to the Supreme Court to overturn it. We then say – NOPE no standing according to the TX lawsuit.
the entire political surveillance accountability ends with this election Coup. they have nothing after this.
Why did I have to go to JoNova.com.au to see an interesting interview with Maria B and General Flynn, and also some interesting parts of the conversation in OUR Supreme court re this issue?
Thanks ?
Could you post it?
If Texas has no “standing” then how are we to remain The United States.
Exactly. Legal scholars, it seems to me, can make anything complicated when they don’t want to rule. Of course, this court didn’t even bother to make things complicated….just said, “No.”
Agree – and this makes saying the Pledge of Allegiance a moot point. No more pledge. No justice – no peace becomes our chant.
Proposed new shorter version…
“I pledge allegiance to… God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.”
Again, codified federal law calls for an election day, not days or weeks. “The next Tuesday after the first Monday in November.” Can someone explain to me why none of the several dozen losses at court argued this bumper sticker length argument? Instead we had silly non serious efforts that lost tike and again. Instead of Rudy holding up a notebook saying it was 1,000s of affidavits, he could have held up on 8.5×11 piece of paper with the law in huge font. “Its the law.” Why did Texas (and Florida), who got their crap done by midnight bring the actual federal law up. I would think after the first 24+ losses, someone would have the bright idea to maybe change things up a bit.
What do I think? Well, just like nearly every other legal hurdle Trump faced in the 4 years, the court cases were designed to fail. You cannot tell me that these supposed great lawyers did not know the codified federal law on election day.
On 11/7 or 8, I looked up the federal law and said (on this site), if that argument was never put forward, you know the fix was in. I got lambasted for not pushing the fraud angle. Yes, there was fraud, but we did not have time for all of that. So, I ask, why was codified federal law never used even in an attempt? As I noted, all legal angles were designed to fail.
And yes, TX AG deserves whatever they throw at him. If you are going to put yourself in the crosshairs, at least try something that might work.
restate that.
why was anything designed to fail? are you saying everything past 11/3 is lost?
Not one court case has even tried the codified federal law on election day. Not even once. You tell me why not?
im not good on legal stuff.
are you saying no one has said the states did not obey their election laws?
or are you saying FCK THE STATE LAW, there is a federal election law that could be mentioned?
There is a federal election law. Look it up. Its easy. Covers all states. Don’t have to mess with state against state. Midnight 11/3, Trump had about 300 EVs. That was several hours before the funny business and “counts stopped”. SCOTUS could say all election stuff stopped at midnight local time. Hell, Texas and Florida got theirs done by midnight. I’m sure we would have “lost” them if counts went on for days. Would SCOTUS rule favor? I don’t know, but at least try it. And as commenter said, they had already ruled in our favor. Make them reverse themselves on standing or whatever hell they would try.
article 1 section 4 clause 1 says Congress and state legislators.”REGULATION BY CONGRESSBy its terms, Art. I, § 4, cl. 1 empowers both Congress and state legislatures to regulate the “times, places and manner of holding elections for Senators and Representatives.” Not until 1842, when it passed a law requiring the election of Representatives by districts,358 did Congress undertake to exercise this power. In subsequent years, Congress expanded on the requirements, successively adding contiguity, compactness, and substantial equality of population to the districting requirements.359 However, no challenge to the seating of Members-elect selected in violation of these requirements was ever successful,360 and Congress deleted the standards from the 1929 apportionment act.361″
three things..
while this case (AG PAXTON) referred to 4 “faithless” states, there were many OTHER states who did not also “comply” with the narrative you present. Many of those other states won Trump…So understand why these states were selected AND the argument narrow. (spoiler: be careful what you ask for, you just might get it..and then some)
second, the issues you raised WERE identified in the AG Paxton case. Did you even read it? I understand its a long document, but please stop dispensing opinion when the facts are easy to read. There are two main themes, with evidence that AG Paxton argued:
a. these 4 states DID NOT FOLLOW STATE LAW. The “officials” who changed the election laws in those states, have no legal state power under their own constitution to make those changes such that they violate the legal letter of the law that state legislatures ratified!
b. the effects of those unlawful changes did two things:
1) it created unfair circumstances where some votes were counted in some counties and districts unfavorable to trump voters, and favorable to biden voters, but not the other way visa versa. Because these rules were changed “in the field” in only some districts but not others, makes the entire election a fraud. A citizen of a state should have the confidence that no matter what location and place in a state you vote, the rules will be the same. This has been demonstrated NOT to be the case at all.
2) these 4 states, taken as a total, violated not only their own state legal limits, but the effects of the results yielded from such fraud created a harm to EVERY SINGLE OTHER state AND VOTER thereof. Now, AG Paxton cannot represent any other state than TX, but the conclusion is obvious. All voters are impacted by the 4 states not following what their own state legislative bodies have made law!
now that the meat of it. And we know USSC never even heard these arguments. they punted for a narrow view (wrongly on princple, but correctly on pure constitutional “theory), of standing. AG Paxton does not represent anyone of the citizens of these 4 states.
yes, it’s a difficult, no, a shocking insulting, response…but that is what happened.
the path forward is clear:
anecdote: you ever watch pee wee t ball for the young one…first season..the coach gets up there and puts the ball up on the t stand and shows the tiny players how to hit a ball.
now think about what AG Paxton has done…..I’ll wait.
he’s showing them how to knock the cover off the damned ball!
and I’m showing every single person who really wants to make a difference how to get those players motivated to get off the damn bench and into the game
if you care….no matter if you are a citizen of MI, MN, WI, or GA, contact everyone you can and alert them to contact their elected official and make their demands known…
send them the AG Paxton blue ribbon document. Put a bow on it.
and if they fail to deliver, well either way, you get your answer.
action.
action
action.
no more playing around waiting for someone else to do the work.
get to it I say.
NOW!
What the hell are you talking about? The Texas lawsuit had not been tried before. The SC did not rule against it’s merit, they ruled Texas had no standing to bring the suit so refused to hear it.
All that is needed is for the right people. person or group to bring the same case to the SC that the SC views as having standing (yes, I know that was BS but someone must have the standing to bring it)
The SC had already ruled about a month before this that election day was election day, no ballots accepted after, they also ruled that only state legislatures can alter or enact election law.
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/20pdf/20a66_new_m6io.pdf
>>The justices determined the courts shouldn’t be the ones to decide the election rules amid the coronavirus pandemic that is surging in Wisconsin and across the world.
“The Constitution provides that state legislatures — not federal judges, not state judges, not state governors, not other state officials — bear primary responsibility for setting election rules,” Justice Neil Gorsuch wrote in a concurring opinion.
https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/10/26/u-s-supreme-court-declines-change-wisconsins-voting-rules/3670662001/
This is a winning angle to attack this from, the SC were cowards and punted.
Let’s see, using your comment that scotus had already noted election day was election day, then why not use something they had already looked favorably on? Push that election day angle that they had already ruled in our favor. Its in your comment, so why didn’t someone do it?
Its like a college professor has an essay test. You know which line he likes, so instead of writing a way he likes, you go off on some other angle. Whose fault is it when you fail the essay test?
whats the federal election law line they like
Look it up. Its easy to find.
You seem to be of the belief the SC ruled on the Texas case by merit, they didn’t, they said Texas couldn’t bring the case so declined to take the case. Doesn’t matter how it was written, they never got that far.
Not sure what is so hard to understand that the Texas suit did just that. The Texas case was about governors, officials, judges making election law when it is unconstitutional and the SC had already ruled it was unconstitutional. The Texas case wasn’t about just one issue, it was about all the issues being dealt with, extending early voting, allowing mail in ballots, collection boxes and more. Any of those things done by anyone other than a state legislature is unconstitutional. It would have been an easy win for Texas if the SC didn’t take the cowardly way out and refuse to hear the case by saying Texas had no standing to bring the case.
Pretty much our “system” of Government has operated under the premise “The Law is what we say it is” by those in Power. How is our system really any different from that of the Monarchy that it replaced, using boatloads of violence to boot, all in the name of a Greater Good.
I think it could be said as a truism that corruption and flawed human nature devolve all forms of government into variants of oligarchies, given time.
So does that then mean that, until the Second Coming, not a thing will change as Humans have a permanently flawed nature?
It is not unto us to know the timing of such a thing. That does not mean we cannot do good throughout the world by virtue of his influence through us. To reflect his nature through us in word and deed however imperfectly.
no…it most certainly does NOT mean that.
obviously so.
do you think that the early americans were waiting for divine intervention to magically happen to solve a crisis they experienced.
nope…they were faithful to the Lord of Lords and fought like their very lives depending on the outcome (because that’s what it takes!)
much has been said about “waiting” for the second coming and this current crisis.
here is my view…in the chronicles of human history, there are ebbs and flows of the tide…in one period, general peace, prosperity, liberty and goodness…in others ..darkness and oppression.
the one things that separates the two periods is the capacity for ordinary human beings to work toward a greater truth and be honorable about it. Righteous even.
our country has dissolved because citizens have not only been misled, but because of the culture that has assumed peace is a function of time. it isn’t. it’s a function of doing the right things consistently.
hat tip to a marine vet and vietnam warrior who has his own branch around here, that reminds us all of the sickness of this country and its true origins. It’s sin.
when that sin becomes so large and toxic, peace, prosperity, freedoms, liberties go down the toilet.
ebbs and flows of a human sinful tide. Sometimes, we are doing well and pleasing god…and at others, we dishonor god and he cannot be with us.
so rather than fixating on when the second coming will happen…My belief is that we make our own bed right now.
I am working hard to make my bed every single day…more than I ever have in my entire life. And you know what? It feels like the right thing to do…my heart is full.
God Bless America
It’s not a difficult concept even for Roberts:
The Constitution gives State LEGISLATURES and only State Legislatures the right to alter a State’s election rules.
If this Constitutional directive isn’t followed and those rules are altered by executive order, it is process to go to a State’s Supreme Court to void the executive orders.
What then happens if the State Supreme Court agrees with the illegal executive order in obvious contravention of the Constitution? SCOTUS has said that’s ok, there is no higher authority than a State’s Supreme Court on these Constitutional matters.
How long, I wonder, before SCOTUS realises the ridiculousness of its position?
Yes, and anyone with a few functioning brain cells can understand that States that follow the Constitution are harmed by States that don’t.
Just like individuals who follow the laws are harmed by other individuals who don’t. But we so far still apprehend and punish individual lawbreakers to protect society! Except in a few liberal big cities, it seems…
The Constitution is a contract, both between We the People and between the States. Apparently both parties have no standing, thus the Federal government has no standing.
Exactly, now we know for sure who/what operates as the enemy
All the China released info out about the huge amount of CCP infiltration. To much to lay out. Some is here on the front page
Put it together
Also there is a way to verify all the fake ballots from real. copy, optical, scanned etc. etc. And we have the right as the owners of those ballots to request to view them in. a non encryted state which is essential. explained in the Video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgeqGmvQXKs&feature=emb_logo
Hmm, sure seems like a sting operation perhaps to me. This man is known to many presenting their cases. He came forward just a day or so ago because the lawyers are ignoring the simple.
Watch the video he also discusses the attorneys presentations and were they go wrong, one of Rudy’s witnesses even mentions this man by name. With the info he put out in the video. The GA elections officials are now on notice they can tell the difference in ballots from legal to fake, and we the people can be lined up requesting the open data file, NOT ENCRYPTED that is essential.. Watch he esplains it well.
Why has Kamala not resigned her Senate seat.
Why is the DOJ now hunting Hunter. Why is Biden apparently toast.
WHy did all my spacing for the Paragraphs not Work ?
A Unilateral Contract at best; if it is legally impossible for any State to leave such a Union after joining, being subject to violent forcible compliance to remain, then this is not “Democracy”…it is Tyranny.
Contracts are always between two or more parties by definition. Concerning the civil war that was a battle between what constituted a man. Big difference, one is agreements between men, the other is ordained by God.
That’s only a small part of the story. The War between the States was only in a roundabout way over Slavery. For the most part it was about State’s Rights. The fact that, at that time, the Northern States refused to “Allow” any State to Legislatively, peacefully, secede from the Union should actually disturb you if you believe in Freedom & Rights.
“What constituted a Man”? White? Black? Because we all know everybody signed on to the 3/5ths Clause…right?
I also ask you if you believe, as a matter of Contract Law, do States have the Legal Right to Secede? If yes, then what the Fed Govt. did during the Civil War was entirely Illegal and Wrong. If no, then why weren’t the common folk whom were going to be Ruled by our new Govt. EVER told that their States were giving up this right by joining by their own Representatives at the time? That would be Fraud in the Inducement in my opinion.
Each state sets its own rules; these rules sometime give voters in one state more advantages than in other states. Shouldn’t there be regularity in voting regulations?
Variations in voting rules between States is acceptable.
The Constitution says, without ambiguity, that State Legislatures can make those rules but officials cannot.
What isn’t acceptable is when this is challenged in the State Supreme Court and that Court agrees with rule by officials and SCOTUS then says effectively “none of our business”. A clear denial of the Constitution is none of SCOTUS’s business.
Beyond belief.
the doctrine is referred to a federalism
each state sets it own rules.
federal law set the floor.
no one can set law lower than the floor.
they can exceed it, but not violate the floor.
continuuing….as much as we are disturbed by this rejection it is consistent with the constitution…to summarize in my own words: each state has its own soverign power to set state election laws.
remember USSC did not rule on THIS! It was bumped on the grounds that TX has no standing to direct any other state to perform any action. This is a core principle of soverignty of each individual state. We are united, but in we are also composed of different state interests. it would indeed be a travesty that a state lose its own soverign power to set its own state laws to conform to another’s wishes or demands. Would I want lousiana my own state to conform to those of california…proposition 18? etc. See?
now…back to the real issues of harm…the harm arguments can be resolved in a perfectly suitable venue at each of these states. Where standing is achieved when state legistlators file disputes in their own state SC! And if an unfavorable ruling results (which is predictable), then those same state legislators can file direct to USSC.
in my earlier example, I used the hypo of california influencing louisiana by some arbitrary legal ruling.
now imagine if one of these 4 states using the paxton arguments can show they have harmed not only their own citizens (trump voters AND biden voters..because the irregularities resulted in actual votes being counted that were unlawful and other that were lawful were not), that addresses the harm to all other state broadly…even if the argument before the courts, state of high court, mentions this issue.
AG paxton has issued the blue ribbon arguments. With just a bit of refinement by each of these 4 state legislators and a willingless to argue with evidence, the standing issue is cleared.
and then we can see the actual arguments well documented with material fact.
at a minimum, it can be proven two areas must be resolved:
that districts used rules that violated state law that harmed other districts in the same state.
that voting deadlines, ballot procedures, qualification and authentication issues exist that cause the election AS A WHOLE TO BE IN DISPUTE.
But isn’t that a violation of our civil rights?
Who stands up for the civil rights of the individual?
A corrupt state Supreme Court is Tyrannical.
What is the remedy?
Precisely why Rudy et al are pursuing the equal protection clause….
Well, ultimately, if the Supreme Court says that your Civil Rights were not violated…then they weren’t, even if they actually were. Our so-called rights are simply that. That, I think, is the greatest logical flaw in our system of “Government”. Ultimately, we will and have created a system and/or systems whereby a “Final” determination will always come down to “It is because WE say it is”.
the beauty of a democracy, even the legal battles that supply its direction, are in fact fluid.
it always goes back to the strength of the argument.
we NOW KNOW where standing can be cleared to seek redress to these disputes.
the fight continues..the strength of the arguments become more powerful.
do not be unmotivated …there is only one way this fails to succeed…a lack of effort.
En banc as they say, the entire 9 justices failed to care enough to defend that which they have taken an oath to defend.
Roberts exposed himself in 2010.
I know the “result” sucks (for now…but stay tuned)…but understand what the ruling is about. Scotus is NOT SIDING WITH ANYONE HERE. They make it very clear: TX AG Paxton has no standing to make a case BEFORE the USSC on harm from the actions of another state.
while the effects are humiliating and practically unhelpful, this ruling is legally consistent and proper.
Remember what the two dissenting judges referred to….look at it closely…read the arizona case they refer to.
nutshell: citizens and specifically the legislative elected officials WHO MAKE LAW in those 4 states HAVE STANDING.
they have standing in their own State SC
and if the dispute is unfavorable to the claimant,
they have standing to appeal to the USSC.
AG paxton’s action, seen by many as some kind of a defeat or a poor effort, as missing the entire big picture. I have tried to get this across several times now, and I’m not shy to make it again.
AG paxton work was not in vain.
upon delivery, 17 states and a majority of state conservative legislators got behind it.
prior to, there was but just a whisper of support to even consider filing a dispute. one gets the direct impression these legislators were for lack of a better phrasing, lost!
AG Paxton and the response from USSC (especially the two in dissent) GIVES THEM DIRECTION.
in addition this highly publicized filing MADE THE NEWS…yes, even the corrupt radical left news..
the PEOPLE HEARD IT…it makes it important…
its a loud commanding signal.
here is the complaint…let me show you how you need to do it! take it and copy and paste…the work is done. just argue it!
I am simplifying ..but I’ve written longer about this matter.
and lastly…as I have stated before, if you are thinking someone else has FAILED YOU…take a long look in the mirror.
what did you do TODAY ?
73 Million American voted for President Trump
73 Million Americans must vote for President Trump by doing everything in their power today, tomorow and every single day to get those 4 states motivated to file cases and use the AG Paxton blue ribbon arguments.
There really is no other higher priority.
if you really want to make a difference…that has to be on your plate.
NOW!
Civil society precedes the state, both morally and historically. Society creates order and grants the state legitimacy. If a ruler seeks absolute power, if he acts both as judge and participant in disputes, he puts himself in a state of war with his subjects and we have the right and the duty to kill such rulers and their servants. (John Locke)
So it’s great to have a bold leader like Pres. Trump who can lead us to success.
I’m willing to follow him and his team who have the big picture.
Ruler = US Supreme Court.
Big fan of Locke! Question is though, why has our Federal Government previously decided that no State, after joining, has any legal right to peacefully, Legislatively, Secede?
Texas does have. In the agreement when they joined. Unlike other states.
the best way to answer that question is to present history.
england made it unlawful for the young american colonist to create their own form of government.
see ? eye wide open yet?
there is “laws”..and then there are moments in history where such laws collapse to a higher more reliable and proper course.
I can’t predict if or when that will happen again, but I am seeing the writing on the wall.
taxation without representation
property and freedom of movement tyranny
denied redress for harms and claims
violation of natural law and human rights (bill of rights)
these are important and they are being trashed with so much as a hand wave.
this will not end well
Thank you Sundance!
Please let me know if there is anything I can do to help you.
How can we convince Trump or the GOP to forever divorce themselves from the snake oil salesmen known as the Federalist Society?
Trump should just rip and shred up the list of candidates for judges from the Federalist Society because it is very clear by now that the Federalist Society is full of RINO Trojan Horses.
There really needs to be another way to search for and discover Clarence Thomas clones to become judges in this country but do “purist” judges like Thomas even exist anymore in this country?
Tear up the Federalist Society list and appoint people from the midwest and south who didn’t go to ivy league schools.
I like Dinesh comparing to cheating in different tennis brackets. Even if the cheating isn’t happening in your bracket, it’s part of the same event, and will likely effect the outcome.
It makes perfect sense that anyone playing in the event will have standing to complain about others cheating.
my guess is the supreme court has 6 other lawsuits pending… and the TX lawsuit got eyes on.
often group think is demoralizing.
so congratulations for not joining the no win groupters!
still in this fight!
I think TX lawsuit has the most clear cut on Constitution that requires USSC
USSC is just coward and dodged their responsibility
each of these 4 states have standing at BOTH state SC and USSC. The benefit of the Paxton case is there exists a blue ribbon template to cut and paste and pursue….
the only question that remains in this avenue: do conservative state representatives have the courage to engage?
we shall see.
We need to protest to convey, who is in control. We start with the Media, including Hollywood. They have the money, but we have the buying power. It is more of us than them. Hollywood needs to keep their lips zipped. We will just watch old re-runs in order to hit them in the pockets. The industry and how they treated Trump, deserves it. The Big Pay back will be a real Mother—R
If a state disenfranchised a class of citizens by passing and signing a bill into a state law, then elected a slate of electors as a result, would the Supreme Court hear a fellow State’s case challenging the appointment of electors on the basis of, say, civil rights violations? If so, then who exactly had standing? And, do we believe that the Court would tolerate such State abuse?
It would seem…only the DOJ/Federal Government would have the ability to object…meaning Bill Barr………..
Need I say more?
I’ma so confused………………
SCOTUS’ disappointing rejection of the TX case might be a blessing in disguise. Might. Afterall, I have to hold onto positivie thoughts while trying to do the few things left for me to do as an individual to fight this fraudulent election.
Remember, Kevin McCarthy jumped on the TX case bandwagon. I sort of viewed the TX case as an academic argument. It didn’t touch on the fraud that went on at all. That’s the sort of argument that “polite” Republicans can deal with, Republicans who don’t want to get involved with actual ugliness. When it comes to fighting outright fraud, they run. Too many blue checked conservatives on twitter have been downplaying or outright mocking the efforts of Rudy Guiliani, Jenna Ellis, Sidney Powell, and Lin Wood as “lost in the weeds” because this pro-Trump team has been gathering thousands of sworn affadavits on the countless incidents of fraud perpetrated during this election. It’s just too much for these more timid conservatives to wrap their head around or perhaps, it’s too close to their own corruption/cowardice/aquiescense/whatever it may be when it comes to allowing DECADES of Democrat election fraud to continue with no real challenge. No more! The TX case allowed Republicans to, once again, ignore the fraud. NO MORE! Support the efforts to expose the FRAUD! FIGHT! Get in the mud with the pigs!
one of my favorite memes. I’ve echoed it more than once since Nov 4th.
Look, we play the legal games, We abide by the Rule of Law……..Til We Dont.
Jan 20th, you should be prepared to do one of the following things.
1) Celebrate the 2nd term of PDJT (presuming legal/Rule of Law works)
2) Opening fire on Washington D.C.
3) Preparing for submission to China.
It really is that simple. Jan 5th will probably help a lot of people to make up their minds when we lose both Ga. Seats. If you are in Ga, you are sitting at Fort Sumter in 1860. Vote!
But when it happens, we have to make a decision as outlined above.
I’m sure Pres. Trump has more sophisticated plans than that.
He said he will Never concede because he won in a landslide. His words.
I’m willing to follow his plans that we can help him implement.
And if he calls for us to bring our guns to D.C?
I didnt define under what circumstances we open fire. Just that we be prepared in mind, body and spirit to do so on that day.
Let me give you a couple options to consider:
Trump invokes Insurrection act: Generals refuse to follow. Congress says no in unison giving the general cover.
Trump shows the evidence in full and the FBI forcefully removes him from the White House.
Trump is killed by an “extremist” that managed to get past SS….
The Dem’s are going to steal both of those seats. I’d strongly recommend betting Warnock +125 and Ossoff +170. They will win, kind of.
V Do not fail to read & understand this V———————
The Honor of the Legal Professionhttps://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/12/the_honor_of_the_legal_profession.html
Better link:
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/12/the_honor_of_the_legal_profession.html
“But I see ballot fraud all over the place !!!” a little child cried out at last. “Just hear what that innocent says!” said the father: and one whispered to another what the child had said. “But these Democrat machine cities must have added hundreds of thousand of fraudulent votes!” said the whole of the sane people at length.
That touched Justices Kavanaugh, Gorsuch and Barrett, for it also seemed to them that the little child was right; but the thought within themselves was, “We must go through with feeling that there was no ballot fraud. We do not dare to do otherwise” And so they all held themselves a little higher, which was very difficult for them to do as none of them had a spine, and held on tighter than ever to each other, and very loudly and very heatedly proclaimed the honesty and validity of an election neither of which existed at all.
What if they and their families have been threatened. How can we rescue them from that?
They had to be aware of that possibility before being sworn in. If they inwardly dithered over upholding their sworn oaths, then they should have declined their respective nominations.
I’m so frustrated.
Texas does not have standing to sue another state because each state controls its own decisions on how to select electors. A state does not even have to hold an election. To the extent a state’s legislature is thwarted, the legislature has the power (in different ways) to fix this. To the extent individual citizens were disenfranchised by illegal or unconstitutional processes, then…
The UNITED STATES OF AMERICA has standing. Its lawyer is William Barr. It’s an easy fix.
See my comments above. Codified federal law (that covers all states already), was never used in any argument. The fix was in to lose.
That too… I wonder… could Trump appoint Jay Seculow a special counsel to bring the case in the SCOTUS… (just thinking out loud…)
OK, my question Brant is why does a lawyer have to STATE in court to judges the codified State or Federal law. If you watched any of these hearings, it was obvious that none of them wished to take the case.
Their job is to uphold the law they have sworn to uphold, why would counsel do that to them in live court. Talking to a judge like that is not a smart thing to do.
I watched almost every single hour of every hearing. The fix was in and the judges at the State level didn’t want to touch it so they all punted quickly to move it to the low life Court.
The low life court if anyone knows the law.
Time for the Holy Hand Granade
True democracy only begins when the will of the people is carried out.
JamesFetzer(.)org > reporting PDJT is refiling Texas petition as individual suits against GA, PA, MI & WI as Plaintiff where HE does have STANDING
I don’t see anything about that on his twitter at all. Fetzer hasn’t tweeted in nine hours. Should give a link Jimmy Olson a cub reporter should know that 🙂
I checked that website Link JO. Fetzer is reporting another source with the claim. Also this is what Rudy said.
“We move immediately, seamlessly, to plan B, which is to bring lawsuits now in each one of the states. We had them ready. They’re just a version of the one that was brought in the Supreme Court. So last night, the president PTde the decision,” Rudy Giuliani said during an appearance on “War Room: Pandemic. PT has standing is TBD. States already have standing as the other litigants.
I think PT is making sure the public understands the fix is in. Why did they wait, TX did this at the last minute so to speak.
Texas, as far as I’m concerned, has no obligation to abide by SCOTUS rulings at this point, as they have broken the compact. No state would have ever entered the union if other states could willy-nilly and extra-constitutionally change their voting laws the way the four defendant states did. Texas should make is clear that they will no longer abide by any SCOTUS ruling, and if secession is necessary, then so be it. Texas didn’t break the compact, the other states did, and SCOTUS codified that.
okay…second round…listen up
20 January. 2021
DO NOT pay attention to any other date tinctured by the media and other meat heads that OPINE this is over.
it is NOT over.
we are still in this fight.
we will end this fight when WE DECIDE the fight is over. Our terms. But never on our knees or backs. Up straight and riding high.
There are certain moments in time when things look futile. Hopeless.
At some point, everything’s gonna go south on you and you’re going to say, this is it.
This is how I end.
Now you can either accept that, or you can get to work.
That’s ALL IT IS.
YOU JUST BEGIN.
You do the math.
You solve one problem and you solve the next one, and then the next.
And If you solve enough problems, you get to come home.
Didn’t California file a federal lawsuit against Arizona when Arizona passed a strong law against illegal immigration. Did the federal district court or 9th Circuit Court in San Francisco rule that California didnt have “STANDING” to interfere in Arizona’s law enforcement business??? I don’t think so!
Yeah – difference is, a state law and not a constitutional violation. Like Nebraska suing Colorado for legal weed. All states signed up for “manner and time” in the electors clause. Four states violated that agreement, SCOTUS has original jurisdiction as a court of Oyer and Terminer – but they won’t hear the evidence.
Wonder if it will come to this:
No, the bar keeps moving. There is no precedent for this. About 70% of establishment RINOs are playing along with this. Neither is there precedent for the 2018 Executive Order to be “invoked” – it’s already in effect, or for any military tribunals. Look at the composition of the house delegations – Republicans have a (I believe at last count) 27-20 (3 tied) advantage. But who signed onto this Texas suit? Less than half the house.
The “objections” phase in the process after January takes one Senator and one Representative. The debate is for one hour.
Rank speculation Pence would do this, or that state delegations in the fraud states will send 2 sets of electors. They won’t even convene in Georgia – Michigan’s house and the rest holding show hearing of sub-committees with a minority of Republicans supporting those processes.
No more trust the plan, no more Sun Tzu or any of it. The President had multiple paths, RINOs and communists have shut him down at every turn, the Supreme Court failed to uphold the Constitution and HEAR the evidence. There’s no way President Trump sold everyone on the Texas suit and the USSC having “Courage and Wisdom” as some sort of judo move.
Miley on the JCS – big time Obama plant. Not sure about the rest of the Joint Chiefs, Christoper Miller or anyone else. Flight traffic over Gitmo – fantasyland. All this stuff is designed to keep the right wing patriot genie in the bottle. I’d bet even now the FBI is preparing to arrest and indefinitely detain political dissidents after 1/20 on orders of President Xi.
Well, if that he the case, we are about to be in a bloody revolution.
But I have, by far, more faith that President Trump has this completely under control.
There is no way he lets a revolution start?
You forgot the millions of prayers of the righteous all over the world. America is a land that is under the protection of the Almighty if there are enough righteous to invoke the mercy and grace of God which we have seen in abundance.
General Flynn says that it’s a 10 that Pres. Trump will win.
Dr. Steve Piecznek says there is 100% chance that Trump wins.
I prefer to listen to people who were right in the past as they were.
We have to hold the line, even when the UN starts to threaten to send in Chinese troops to support the ‘true’ President – Joe Biden.
It’s going to be a WILD ride.
In the end…Pres. Trump and his team prevails…and we win…
PS. Pres. Trump has tweeted Sun Tzu in the past…but actually I think there is more AI
planning going on, Game Theory, Baysian Statistics & Probabilty analysis than we can ”
imagine.
I did not forget, and I’m praying too. I believe God is working in ways we cannot see, and this is likely to come out in a manner which does not make sense to us in our own understanding.
Excuse me, but it’s not about how Trump wins.
It’s about how the criminals are defeated…
There I fixed it.
Excellent understanding.
It is not “overturning the election”. It is correcting the fake, fraudulent election.
The other part of this – who actually believes MI, AZ, GA, PA and WI (all majority republicans in their legislatures) will send competing electors when they didn’t even have open hearings on fraud?
Test
My wife and I got separated at our State Capitol Rally to Stop This Theft.
She told me later there was a oriental lady there sitting quietly with a sign.
“It’s About the Constitution”
The SCOTUS was myopic because they failed to consider the “other side of the coin”:
A) SCOTUS… A state can not tell another state how to run their elections.
B) Texas: A state can not change its elections to get an advantage over other states.
See? B gives Texas complete standing. Otherwise, if they have no constitutional protection from other states, why should they remain in the Union?
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#REVOLUTION
Don’t take the bait.
Wait on the CIC, Pres. Trump.
Follow the true leader.
There’s a relevant quote by Ulysses S. Grant that Revolution is the right of all men, but that to use it you must necessarily risk your life, your property and your rights under the government you currently live under.
The Democrats are intent on stealing our wealth, are denying us our rights and ultimately wish us dead.
It seems they are intent on making sure that American patriots have nothing lose to by choosing revolution.
Texas AG Paxton does not appear to be positioned to re-file after 12/14/20.
unless they force it through…
United States Supreme CourtSTEVENSON v. FAIN(1904)Argued: Decided: November 7, 1904
The Supreme Court alone “possesses jurisdiction derived immediately from the Constitution, and of which the legislative power cannot deprive it” (United States v. Hudson, 7 Cranch, 32, 3 L. ed. 259), but the jurisdiction of the circuit courts depends upon some act of Congress ( Turner v. Bank of North America, 4 Dall. 8, 10, 1 L. ed. 718, 719; M’Intire v. Wood, 7 Cranch, 504, 506, 3 L. ed. 420, 421).
The Judiciary Act of 1925 aka Judges’ Bill was a statutory law which is unconstitutional because it circumvents Article III in the constitution which must be Amended. This Act does not Amend the constitution!
This Act allowed discretion, so Alito is right without saying so.
great decision by SCOTUS since it now means slavery, islamic law, Purge style mass murder or any other aberrant thing is legal provided it only occurs within the borders of one state and the corrupt state supreme court approves of it.
Not exactly.
But SCOTUS might well like to run away from many future decisions by giving it back to, frankly, low quality State Supreme Courts.
But we all remember how the SC has interfered with states’ rights as concerning race, abortion laws, 2d amendment, and although I guess we are supposed to forget it, voting matters. This decision made no sense and wasn’t consistent with other SC rulings on all sorts of matters confined to th boundaries of a particular stat.
I think you are missing the most important State Right that is not Legally recognized; the right to Secede. If the Founding Father’s intent…after participating in a violent overthrow of a Government at that time…was to create a new Government whereby there could be no peaceful withdrawal by any State that then decided to join…then they should have explicitly stated as much…full disclosure.
Did you leave off the /s? We have a rule here, don’t assume it’s obvious
Ballots for the Georgia runoff election maybe?
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/wow-lin-wood-releases-photos-alleged-georgia-mail-ballots-fulton-warehouse/
Remember the time when federal judges ruled that criminals, illegal immigrants, Muslims, ANTIFA, BLM, Gays, Lesbians, Transgenders, Cross dressers, Blacks, ACLU, Hispanics and Planned Parenthood sued a state and it was dismissed because the court ruled that they didn’t have standing? Me neither!
Yup!
Remember when they released all the evidence against President Trump over the past four years to remove him from office?? Me neither!
Last week the Fifth Circuit slapped El Paso TX for lack of standing in a lawsuit in which the city sued Trump for how he used military funds for the border wall.
Here’s an article: https://americanmilitarynews.com/2020/12/court-rules-against-el-paso-bnhr-on-trumps-military-fund-diversion-for-border-wall/
Trump’s biggest failure has been the sorry sacks of shit that he has nominated for important positions.
Breaking…….
WH confirms cyber attack on US Treasury by Foreign Government.
More Ratcliffe report breadcrumbs anyone???
Link, please?
I think most of the Republicans in Congress will be happy to see our President go! What a disgrace
If the situation were reversed and Biden had the election stoken from him, the SCOTUS decision would be 9 to 0 in favor of the Left.
That indicates more than anything just how Deep and Wide the Swamp is.
Trump’s election in 2016 was the Counter revolution to the Lefty Revolution that began with the election of Barack Obama.
just how Deep and Wide the Swamp is.
At this juncture, I’d like to propose that it is no longer a swamp but a toxic sea or ocean?
Remember when the Federal Government sued those States that have Sanctuary Cities?
The Supreme court Punted on that one as well.
Why even have the court if they don’t address national issues.
Here’s a list from Kyle Becker on CCP names, first 8000 pages, pdf will disappear in 24 hours, scroll down to see it.
https://f.maga.host/DGieOgS.pdf
Appreciate the graphic, Sundance. Thomas Paine comes to mind for those opposed.
So, here we are at another fork in the road…judicial options appear to be getting blocked at every turn and the MSM is still imposing a virtual blackout on any story that would call BS on Biden’s impossible win.
Are we really at the point where the Insurrection Act will need to be instituted and if so, does it have to happen before the 18th or is that deadline a different issue involving the EO from September 2018? And has Sundance specifically opined on either of those two options in depth? Not that I have seen, which I find interesting…it does seem like the table is being set, especially with the release of the CCP “list’ this weekend, which doesn’t appear to be getting much, if any, MSM coverage. (No surprise there!)
IMHO, if the President is going to take one (or both) of these steps, he needs to do it with an address to the country, from the Oval Office, so that the media will be forced to carry the whole thing. And he needs to have Pompeo and Ratcliffe with him, along with the Joint Chiefs. AG Barr can be given the option ahead of time to either be there or to resign…and the President needs to have ALL the evidence of ALL the treason and fraud, and lay it out VERY clearly, even if it implicates members of Congress and Mayors/Governors of BOTH parties! And if there are leaders of industry who are also implicated, their names need to be revealed as well.(Yes, Zuckerberg and Gates, I AM talking about you!)
If it comes to this, our country will be shaken to its foundation BUT if done properly, the foundation WILL hold and we can start rebuilding. If it doesn’t happen now, and Biden is allowed to successfully steal the election, then I think we will have lost the Republic, and I do not know where we go from there…
“LORD, we do not know what to do. Our eyes are on You.” II Chronicles 20:12
The “media” needs to be shut down first as they are traitors and NOT our “free press:” thus there is no protection for them.
media black out, big tech (gates/zuck ect) blackout.
there is none to “discuss” nor to “dismiss” what POTUS has to say
first thing is to cut lines of communication
If it was OK for the Colonists to do what they did when they did it…why exactly would it be somehow “wrong” to do the very same thing now?
Not sure I understand your comment? Where did I say that anything the colonists did was “wrong?
Sidney Powell talks about triggering the 2018 Exec Order.
Once again we are faced with the prospect of getting
screwed by “one of our own.” What happens if Ratcliffe turns
out to be a Rat?
https://www.theepochtimes.com/sidney-powell-trump-could-trigger-2018-executive-order-on-foreign-interference_3616680.html?utm_source=share-btn-copylink&st=gmYf9_kO7WHrd05wVkMCUsQx3ufX_40MQKm2fCxP4fRT5FHCKRBK69Ks2gSsFB1o0Pg4VFrHAwAKNw3V7TAqGQYVd1d6j_OMNKM
YES!! That is such an important question!! When Ratcliffe was first nominated, Cocaine Mitch made it clear that he wouldn’t get approved so the President had to withdraw the nomination. Once Ric Grennell got in there and started kicking a&& and naming names, suddenly, Mitch decided Ratcliffe was okay after all…but WHAT happened in the interim to change his mind? Did someone get some dirt on him or did he get a nice deposit into an account in The Caymans? He sure didn’t seem to light many fires once he actually got into the position, did he?
The President has been burned SO many times that I think we are all a little concerned when so many eggs seem to be held in a basket of someone who doesn’t seem to want to break any of them!!
no, ratcliffe did not release, or order release of, much of the material requested by congress, or by judicial watch or other FOIA requesters, as he could easily do. When wray and haspel stalled, he did nothing, permitting them to continue to withhold records of government criminality.
The FBI and DoJ have threatened Paxton via subpoena for ongoing litigation brought against him by the corrupt DA of Austin, TX. AG Paxton also has an outstanding SEC complaint brought by carpetbagging slugs from Plano,TX as well.
Also, nothing is stopping another AG from picking up the baton to take the lead.