Chaff and Countermeasures – Senator Graham Asks AG Bill Barr for “Spygate” and “FISA” Witnesses…

Anyone who has followed DC for a while could see this one coming a mile away… including the synergy of self-interested timing.  Catherine Herridge of CBS reports on a ‘tick-tock’ letter from Senator Lindsey Graham to AG Bill Barr where Graham announces his request for witnesses.   The Graham list is an assembly of various DOJ/FBI officials who participated in Crossfire Hurricane and the fraudulent FISA application(s).

The timing of the letter, alluding to some possible hearing at some possible later date, follows a DC pattern. [Chaff and Countermeasures] In essence, cover for visible inaction; an attempt to convince people to put down the pitchforks.

A “Countermeasure” is a measure or action taken to counter or offset a preceding one.

Politically speaking, the deployment of countermeasures is a tactic used by professional politicians in Washington DC to counter incoming public inquiry and protect themselves from anger expressed by the electorate.

Weaponized government takes action and creates victims. Beyond the strategy – the countermeasures are politicians assigned a role to control the incoming righteous inquiry from voters who find out about the weaponized or corrupt governmental action.

1.) The electorate become aware of a political issue or action; often illegal.

2.) The electorate become angry.

3.) DC needs to protect itself.

4.) Countermeasures are assigned and deployed to delay, obfuscate and create the illusion of investigation of the illegal governmental action.

5.) Electorate watch.

6.) Investigation goes nowhere.

7.) Countermeasure deployment successful.

Repeat.

Recent and ongoing examples:

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271 Responses to Chaff and Countermeasures – Senator Graham Asks AG Bill Barr for “Spygate” and “FISA” Witnesses…

  1. capetribulation1 says:

    Excuse me but Senator Graham is very very busy appearing non-stop on tv talking about his plans to talk about his plans and sending me daily fundraising emails. Duh,people…

    Liked by 8 people

    • mr.piddles says:

      And a little bit of every one of your paychecks goes to funding that. #MeToo

      Liked by 4 people

    • bertdilbert says:

      Nobody is ever going to jail because the deep state collects data on all Americans and can blackmail anyone they want.

      Liked by 4 people

      • girlyman514 says:

        The signs that nothing was ever going to happen were always there if one was willing to look. I just felt bad for all the tremendous work Sundance has done over the years to keep everyone abreast of what was developing. But, like everything else, illegal immigration, Obamacare, government corruption, people will eventually tire and acquiesce to the governments do nothing policies.

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        • ms doodlebug says:

          The alternative is…?

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          • frankmystery says:

            The only thing they all care about is money. If people organized better to dry up the money many organizations recieve perhaps something might change. Everyone complains but how many people still pay a cable bill. Cut every source of funding to the elite as possible. That’s at least one way to peacefully make a point.

            The problem is organizing. If anyone gains traction on a walkway movement the media and tech companies will quickly act to shut it down. Honestly how do people effectively organize when they track all data and they operate all the levers.

            Side note…I don’t know how many people are keeping track of the red flag laws shuffling through the chambers of many states. Very troubling times. I desperately want to see more (any? ) Trump attention on these matters.

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            • ms doodlebug says:

              I hear what you’re saying…but. I cut the cable so they raised the cost of my internet service because I was no longer ‘bundled’. People depending on social security got a 1.6% increase on their checks. And the Medicare premium increased. As my gram says, there’s more than one way to skin a rabbit – and we’re the rabbits.

              Meanwhile, Hunter Biden types, and there are many in our government, rake in millions from questionable and possibly illegal alliances, plus the passive income from the money and investments. It’s true that money makes money. It’s not always true that crime doesn’t pay. If you have the right name, cash in the bank, and are protected by friends and family doing the same, crime can be very lucrative.

              The red flag laws are State laws, not Federal. It’s at the State level they must be challenged. If passed, SCOTUS, not President Trump, will ultimately decide if they are or are not Constitutional.

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      • Marc says:

        The ones they cannot blackmail they simply eliminate.

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  2. talkofthetown says:

    I’m not surprised. Just as I stated the other day. Lindsey Graham needs called out as #DonothingLindseyGraham.

    He’s as bad as Romney if not worse in my book.

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  3. islandpalmtrees says:

    What was the name of that young smart lawyer defending President Trump in the impeachment? I want him for the AG?

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  4. islandpalmtrees says:

    Mr. President, I don’t see that you have reason to delay any more in releasing the documents? At-least expose the truth to light!

    Liked by 6 people

  5. RAC says:

    Get your bagpipes & play accompaniment Billy, this ones for you………..

    Liked by 5 people

  6. Bendix says:

    Why is it Lisa Page gets to tweet without a scolding from AG Barr?

    I was hoping for a figurative Valentine’s Day Massacre, but with the phony cops being the ones against the wall this time.

    Liked by 6 people

  7. islandpalmtrees says:

    Mr. President, if you are able then at-least fire “all” of the FBI leadership. And, promote replacements carefully.

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  8. Bogeyfree says:

    Aren’t we still waiting on Lindsey’s last letter from this past Nov to Pompeo asking for all the communications from Biden with Ukraine back in 2016?

    This letter will be as effective as sending a letter to Santa.

    Mitch and Lindsey need to go!

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    • vikingmom says:

      Heck, we’re still waiting for Lindsey to start those hearings he promised last summer into the Brett Kavanaugh phony hit job, with the able assisstance of DiFi, Lawfare,and the”beachfriends” …..

      Liked by 7 people

      • BlondieFlorida says:

        When anyone mentions DIFI I just go crazy. She was supposed to be under an ethics investigation for her behavior and stunts during Kavanaugh. Where did that go, huh? She is still the chair of that committee! She should be thrown out of government! PERIOD.

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  9. islandpalmtrees says:

    Mr. President, if you are able then fire anyone connected to the known coup members, to include CIA, FBI, NSA and SSCI associations. We would all be delighted to help.

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    • Dutchman says:

      Announce that he is taking personal, direct charge of the DOJ, which includes the FBI.

      Appoint a # of people as “Special council to the President” which doesn’t require,Senate confirmation.
      Fire Barr for insubordinatio. Fire Wray for being a jackass in public.

      Begin by ordering each peraon to produce the documents (on Sundances list). When they refuse, fire for refusing, and go to next in line.

      When you get compliance, say THESE people have my authority, and are acting on my direction. Any order or instruction from them, comes from me.

      Rudy, Sidney, etc.,….have at it!

      Call roto-rooter, THATS the way,….
      And away your troubles, down the drain!

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      • fanbeav says:

        And you really think swamp Congress and Senate will allow this to happen?

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        • Dutchman says:

          They are going to impeach him, anyway.
          The big threat that the IRS has, is the threat of an AUDIT.
          But, if your books are “clean”, why should you fear an audit?
          DJT got audited EVERY year, for 20+ years. So, keep your books clean, no fear.
          Since they are going to Impeach him, anyway, call him a tyrant, etc.
          why not just go for it.
          Declassify ALL the material on Sundances ever growing wish list.

          Eventually, he’s going to have to expose the power behind the ongoing coup and coverup.

          Mitch and company.

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          • trnathens says:

            Dutch,

            There would be literal insurrection in the streets immediately if PDJT followed your advice, and he would LOSE next Fall because he would be seen as a tyrant by moderates, and all minority support would drain away.

            But keep calling for it. Cause that’s gonna help.

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  10. Adele Virtue says:

    I was under the impression that if Trump/Barr did anything prior to the end of impeachment that Trump would no longer be our President. Graham knew this also. Could it be possible that this time they really are planning on going after the coup plotters since impeachment.Mueller/Russia are all over with. Sure there is the chance dems might impeach again, but I think Trump has had enough, Americans have seen what is happening and are finally waking up and realizing it is not Trump destroying this country like the dems keep saying, but the dems. And by dems I mean those in power, not your every day registered Democrat. I recall reading about how if it all came out at once chaos would erupt so it had to be dripped out, little at a time so all could comprehend what was happening. I think after 3 plus years, those who are willing to comprehend now do and the rest are just so full of hatred they never will. They do not even know what they hate and just picked Trump because he is the biggest game changer ever. Trump is doing what we put him in office to do, just because it is not as fast as we would like is no reason to lose faith. God works different time tables than we have, He sees the long picture, He knows how many would be hurt if it all got released at once. I put my trust in God and in the man God put in office. With all the fraud from the 2016 election and Trump still won, it is because God put him in office. JMHO!

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    • VegGOP says:

      I agree 100%. Amen!
      And I would like to add that Trump has always been a counter-puncher. Anyone who thinks the evil powers have “suppressed” or “undermined” or “destroyed” this quality in him is a fool. No. He has been hit with the most massive blows of his entire life. There is NO WAY that he will not counter punch, and it will be EPIC. I suspect that he is waiting until January 3rd when a new Republican majority is seated in the House. Otherwise, the slightest counter punch will trigger another impeachment and, if the counter punch impacts enough GOP senators, could result in a false conviction.
      May God Bless our POTUS and protect him (and us) from this colossal evil.

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  11. John Obidienzo says:

    Taking the posse in the wrong direction over and over again will eventually lead to the mis-directors being lynched before the bandits. How much more of this can we tolerate?

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    • Americans tolerate it forever because we believe the “George Washington Chopped Down theCherry Tree” BS we were taught as children.

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    • Jederman says:

      The way I see it, they could give a rat’s about how long we can tolerate the corruption as long as at least half the country is glad to see it because they want to see PT getting screwed. There is no downside for the DS/DoJ as long as they can keep the msm spinning the story.

      Barr may or may not be an ethical man, who knows. But in the past year he has done nothing to make things right for all the people merely associated with PT and his campaign who were victimized by the “premier LE agency in this country” and the Do”J.”

      And I no longer have hope that he will. He’s no hero that’s for sure.

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  12. burnett044 says:

    a Zippo is useless with out the flint..

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  13. wtd says:

    Very important book.

    William Barr’s connection to Ruby Ridge, defending FBI snipers Trump’s AG pick was top cop during the federal siege and killing of Randy Waver’s wife and son

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  14. Samiam1015 says:

    The idea is to keep us quiet and complacent thinking Barr is going to bring justice, which is always just around the corner after this or that delay. In the meantime they are buying time until November. Then it won’t matter how many votes we really have, they will boldly rig it in broad daylight and in our faces. Nothing is off the table with these deep staters and they don’t care how they get there or even whether we know it. By the time we figure out the truth it will be way too late. Barr is walking us down the Green Mile just like a rabbit with a carrot on a stick in front of us.

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    • Dutchman says:

      Samiam,
      Disagree totally. The good news is, they know they can cheat on the vote, in a “close” election, but NOT in a landslide.

      That we are now entering “Impeachment attempt 3.0” is because they KNOW they can’t cheat him out of office in Nov.

      If this doesn’t work, they will try 4.0.
      Obstruction trap,…again. Its the SAME MOVIE; Same plot, same characters, and same outcome.

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      • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

        Why can’t they cheat him out of office in November?
        You really think they haven’t implemented measures to take care of by now?

        Iowa and NH were test runs.

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        • jumpinjarhead says:

          Don’t forget the thumb on the scales that leftist social media giants can apply that according to at least one expert could mean swinging 15 million voters to the dims.

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        • Dutchman says:

          If they were confident they could cheat him out of office, thru ballot fraud, they would not be engaging in the ongoing coup/impeachment scam.

          Why bother, if they can just cheat? Again, you can pull off ballot fraud, when its a “close” election, like between tweedle dum and tweedle dummer, both hack politicians.

          The Dems are having a difficult time trying to cheat Bernie, in primaries where they make the rules.
          No, I do NOT believe they can cheat him out in November, and their actions show that they KNOW they can’t.

          And, I give them SOME credit, for knowing the limits of what they are capable of.

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          • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

            If they were confident in their AG they wouldn’t bother either.

            Iowa wasn’t just about Bernie….
            it was testing the reaction of the electorate as a whole.

            Sorry, I’ve done more prep and had more contingencies in place for a frickin Scout meeting. And that’s NOT an overstatement

            Three years of “prep” for the big kickoff.
            Unmitigated disaster
            Oh well shoulder shrug.

            System test.

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  15. Senator Graham spews more bullshit than a herd of steers.

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  16. hokkoda says:

    The message today from the Department of Defense and the Department of Justice is simple:

    If you’re a Progressive and loyal to the Official Government Party, you get to skate.

    If you’re not. You go to prison and they go after your friends and family too.

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  17. billybob says:

    Anybody arrested today ?

    Liked by 5 people

  18. 13wasylyna says:

    Anyone still thinking John McCains widow Lindsey Graham is anything but a decEpticon needs to seek psychiatric care. Never believe or put faith in a man who ran side by side withJohn McCain

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  19. Brittney says:

    PRESIDENT TRUMP?

    It appears P/T got blindsided outplayed for the moment…I do not know.

    P/T news conference 2-days ago going after McCabe;
    were is Comey, what is happening with “McCabe”???, what happening to Lisa Page and Peter Strzok, it was a setup, false documents and everyone knows

    Entire news conference 2-days ago:
    They treated Roger Stone very badly they treated everybody very badly, and if you look at the Mueller investigation, it was a scam, because it was illegally set up, it was set up based upon false documentation, of false documents you look at what happened and how many people were hurt, their lives were destroyed, and nothing happened to the people that did it, is such a scam, were is Comey, what is happening with McCabe, what happening to Lisa Page, and Peter Strzok, it was a set-up, it was a disgrace for our country and everyone knows it, everyone,

    IMO President Trump might have been outplayed for the moment and there has to be a Big Chess-Move by P/T shortly.

    We know P/T and the American people have been watching Barr and by this spring or sooner we would know the answer if he is the real deal.

    Maybe P/T just got his answer and doesn’t have to wait for this spring?

    And if so, P/T needs to take actions according to many of Judicial Watch recommendations given over the last 2-years.

    P/T is 100% responsible (Great Leader) for justice and must use his powers according to the Constitution and implement justice.

    These are the battles of all wars…P/T will outplay the criminals.

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    • John says:

      Concentrate on PDJT next really soon chess move. Everyone must wait for P/T…he will not allow this country to become a 3rd would country my not implementing justice

      If Barr just revealed clearly who he is AND it appear P/T was blindside/outplayed, than the next move is on PDJT.

      If the coup/criminal/globalist just revealed in front of PDJT and the American people that there is no rule of law, no equal justice and no U.S. Constitution so blatantly and they own/run the country; than they will steal the next election, tear down the wall, pack the supreme-court etc.

      In fact we are all in danger…

      PDJT will reveal something really soon…chess move.

      AND; Flynn and Stone is not a bargaining chip…this is non-sense….they need justice and complete exoneration.

      Coup/Criminals should to be in prison.

      Concentrate on PDJT chess moves.

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      • trnathens says:

        Guys,

        Relax. You don’t charge someone with Jay walking, when you know they’ve committed murder.

        Read the statement again. They aren’t prosecuting based on the facts alleged in the specific report from 2018. It is alleged he lacked candor about leaks to the press.

        Do you really want to go to court on that ONE CHARGE, when instead, you bring other, bigger charges, a piece of which is THIS charge, because now it’s used to explain the bigger picture?

        Or, they charge him, he’s found not guilty at trial, and then this WHOLE thing would be over.

        Do you want THAT to happen?

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        • Carrie says:

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          • trnathens says:

            Don’t “see Flynn case”! Those were/are CORRUPT prosecutors!

            All legitimate prosecutors should be offended by that statement.

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        • gda53 says:

          Too many ‘chicken littles’ stomping around screaming that the sky is falling and having fun disparaging Barr/Durham.

          What for you want to bring common sense into this crazy-ass soap opera, you spoilsport? /s

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        • Tess from Philly says:

          Sorry. I’m just about out of hope. You can keep thinking that justice will be served. I’m ready to mourn the death of our republic, which may well have happened before I was born but I only really began to suspect when Lois Lerner was not thrown in jail. With McCabe and Vindman walking, I just need to focus on my family now. Truly I may never vote again. I just don’t see the point.

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          • ms doodlebug says:

            Whether or not justice is served on corrupt government officials is not the only reason to vote.

            A vote for President Trump is a vote for all those who now have jobs. It’s a vote for veterans being able to get private medical care when the VA fails them, for people with terminal illness getting one more chance with experimental treatments…so many other good reasons to vote once again for President Trump.

            “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” “Nobody made a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little.”
            ― Edmund Burke “Get your butt out and vote!” Doodlebug 🙂

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      • Y’all Know What Time It is says:

        “he will not allow this country to become a 3rd would country…”
        Notice how the deep state, msm and Democrat mouthpieces are increasingly claiming that Trump is making this a banana republic. They always accuse others of what they are doing. In this case, they see that the public is becoming aware that their and Obama’s whole administration’s actions are those of a Banana Republic. They are just trying to get ahead of that by charging Trump of causing it. Just like Trump is dividing us by race etc. when it’s always been them.

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    • President Trump’s problem:

      He is trying to clean house with a broom that has a rope for a handle.

      You can’t push it.

      All you can do is drag it behind you, but it doesn’t actually SWEEP anything into a pile.

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      • Dutchman says:

        Disagree. Your analogy and premise is IMHO, inaccurate.
        Expose, Discredit, and de-power.
        THAT,is whats been happening, steadily for last 3 years.
        Its not a broom, it takes longer, but is permanent.

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        • At this point, even the Joint Chiefs are refusing to act in accordance with law and the USCMJ if (thru inaction) they can stymie the President’s will, or policies.

          While he can’t MAKE them DO anything, he certainly CAN fire them. And that’s EXACTLY what he should do.

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          • Dutchman says:

            Well, I FEEL the same way.
            Of coarse, many felt he should fire Mueller, Rosie and Sessions,…so lets see what happens.

            Based on 3 plus years, consistent pattern, from the Acme nefarious schemes co. (Lawfare) will fail as miserably as every previous scheme has.

            More of the enemy will be exposed, discredited and lose power. And as they lose power, PDJT GAINS power, because he gains credibility.

            THIS, ultimately is how you win against Conmunism, NOT by throwing people in jail. IMHO.

            NOT that I wouldn’t like to see bodies hanging from gallows, on DC lawn. Just sure thats not the ONLY, or even the “best” way to win.

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            • It does no good to “Discredit” them if he leaves them in place to thwart his every move. Also, when they ARE publically uncovered, and nothing is done, OTHER “#Resist” people are emboldened to act, rather than simply watch or talk.

              BUT, if he ends the careers of a few high level lifetime bureaucrats, others WILL take notice and at least feign cooperation.

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              • Dutchman says:

                “Does no good”? Watch on Nov.4 th, to see what good it does.
                Every time they are DIScredited, his credibility is enhanced.
                “I have been audited EVERY year, for last 18 years”
                “Rediculous! While its theoretically POSSIBLE, as a tax expert I can assure you he has NOT been audited every year!”
                IRS “DJT has authorised us to confirm he HAS, in fact been audited by us every year for last 18 years.”

                “I was ‘wiretapped’ by Obama admin”.

                “Outrageous lie!”
                EVERY time, they LOSE credibility, and he GAINS credibility.
                Its the way he combats the ‘spin the media narrative for today, cause the rubes have a short attention span’ methodology of his enemies.

                Fight their lies with truths. It has a cumulative effect. Like peppering an opponent in boxing with 100’s if blows, none of which is,a ‘knock out’, but again have a cumulative effect.

                EXPOSE,….DISCREDIT,…and gradually, with loss of credibility comes loss of the ability to effect opinion, which is loss of ability to effect events, that is to say LOSS OF POWER.
                It takes TIME, it takes PATIENCE but it IS pretty permanent.

                Going after individual rogue buerocrats doing resistance is like trying to drain the swamp by wading in to the,swamp and starting to wrestle an alligator.

                Good a way as any of insuring you’ll die, without adversely effecting the swamp.

                Cut off the H20, that supplies the swamp, first. Thats the $ flowing in from China, EU, etc.

                He’s well on the way, with his trade reset. As the water recedes, the creatures are EXPOSED. Some leave, the rest begin fighting each other, for ever diminishing territory.
                Thats happening now.
                Eventually, you have to go into a nearly dry swamp, and kill off the few, surviving gators.

                While I ‘lost patience and faith’ with Barr/Durham some time back, I have infinite patience with, and faith in PDJT.

                And feigning cooperation is an illusion of victory. Rather wait, to see the phoney, con ‘ideologies’ exposed, discredited and rendered powerless.

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      • nationalboardertified2001 says:

        …and 44 said that “Trump must think he will have a magic wand.’ I rest my case. Our beloved President Trump has more magic wands than that sorry excuse (44) of a human being ever dreamed of.

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  20. Everett Miller says:

    NUNES for POTUS 2024
    [Pass it on]

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  21. plane of the ecliptic says:

    All we hear about is Committee Hearings. Who cares, they are a waste of time and money.
    JMHO, the Deep State DOJ will never indict the first African American President, Chief Justice Roberts, and the other FISA Judges. If that will not be done, why in Sam Hell should we indict Nellie Ohr? Why indict Brennan and the others? If these Folks are out of bounds for any Grand Jury (if there even is a GJ), Durham should just shut the whole thing down….it is all BS.
    Our only way to punish them is to elect another DJT in 5 years. I hope one shows up on the radar, or it is back to wet noodle, sliced white bread RINOs.

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  22. Parrot says:

    Yep, if you refuse to prosecute the open and shut McCabe case, none of anything Graham has implied needs looking at has a chance of getting past the DoJ Insurance policy.

    While they own DoJ they are safe.

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  23. rjones99 says:

    If Barr, Graham, and McConnell think this is smart, they’re VERY mistaken. It’s a freaking waste of time because nobody trusts any of you. INDICT THE DAMN CRIMINALS.

    We dont want any your stupid story time with crooks.

    If you’re going to fvck us, just freaking go away and send out your “report.”

    My disgust at this point cannot even be expressed because I’ve every invective I know on the petty crap leading up to this point.

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  24. Zydeco says:

    I received a Ms. Lindsey fundraising request today. I’m hundreds of miles from SC. What do I do with this skunk shit?

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  25. Gary Lacey says:

    Well, I will say it, its over for the USA. If you’re waiting for the Durham report to manifest convictions……Don’t hold your breath.

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    • Dutchman says:

      No, the USA is not “over”, that is IMHO shortsighted, fatalistic and immature.

      The BATTLE,for the USA is ongoing, fought on many fronts.

      Causing the enemy to engage in behaviors you can use to justify the illusion of impeachable offence (Obstruction) is the enemies play.

      Causing your enemy to expise their true natures, in order to ;
      Expose
      Discredit
      Disempower
      Is PDJT’s modus operandi.

      He has just caused Barr and the Joint chiefs to expose themselves, and mitch to once again expose his nature.

      Anyone here that doesn’t know that Obummer fired all military that dusagreed with him, and promote conmunist sympathisers and synchophants?

      But many “out there” are SHOCKED to realise the military brass are part if the coup.

      And, many here that have been singing the praises of Barr/Durham are waking up to an unpleasant but necesary truth.

      Expose
      Discredit
      Once they lose credibility, they lose the POWER to influence events.

      Look at what has happened to MSM.
      LOOK what has happened to House Dems.

      And each time Turtle sticks his head out, 10,000 citisens realise his true nature.

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      • frankmystery says:

        I really like everything you have said and it does fit I think. My big question is the how. Assuming all parties are discredited to a degree it’s considered time to move forward how does Trump get action to take place. It appears to me the largest problem he has is the entire apparatus is insubordinate which at least appears to neuter him.

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        • Dutchman says:

          Take a look at the Looooong list of PDJT’s accomplishments.
          Last list I saw, IIRC was well over 250, and that was months ago.
          Considering he is,”nuetered”, he seems to be doing pretty good.

          And the discrediting is still in progress, and at different stages for different players.
          Disempowerment only comes when discrediting is complete.

          Dems and media are nearing complete discrediting, final will occur in November.

          The real black, twisted heart of the swamp is the Republicons in Senate, and they are STILL in the exposure stage.

          They only retain their power, so long as they avoid exposure.
          Expose them, or encourage them to come out of cover enough times, same effect.

          Exposure=Discredit, as 95% of Republican voters, 25% of Dem voters, and ? % of independents who support DJT see who and what they really are.

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          • Y’all Know What Time It is says:

            Maybe none have been charged because they would not be convicted in a D.C. Court. Then they would claim Trump is a conspiracy theorist.
            Which judge would get the trial? Amy Berman Jackson? ….

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            • Dutchman says:

              Thats an EXCUSE, not a reason.
              The reason is cause there is no WILL to bring sunlight to the coup, and expose it.
              Just as Wolfe extorted a sweetheart deal, by threatening to call the SSCI Senators in his defence, and expose that they OREDERED him to leak the FISA warrant, the coupists, by their actions have threatened TPTB; getting media gigs, writing books. Comey throwing Lynch under the bus on the phone call to NYPD was just to give them a taste.
              It has nothing to do with DC jury, which could be addressed by change of venue.
              It has to do with any defence is going to unravel the whole conspiracy, as Sundance says, implicating all 3 branches of government, at the highest levels, involved in a plot to overthrow a duly elected POTUS.
              Judiciary, Congress and Executive, along with the media.
              And, the coup continues because it is not being exposed, as those same powerful entities have no reason to stop, and every reason to continue.

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  26. starfcker says:

    Do we know the names of most of those people?

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  27. paintbrushsage says:

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    • clulessgrandpa says:

      So what? He will still be convicted of nothing. Why doesn’t she get the juror foreman in front of the court to see why she committed perjury. She put Manafort in solitary BEFORE the trial. Banana republic,

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  28. paintbrushsage says:

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  29. cavt says:

    Exactly right. More smoke screen. Nothing will happen. Nothing has even happened to that guy Clinesmith who everyone said was guilty. Hate to say it, but our justice system is a joke. Act accordingly–

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  30. Blind no Longer says:

    Just another—-Look>>>>Squirrel>>>>>

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  31. Reserved55 says:

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  32. After today’s events, it seems to me that the everyone in the In-Justice Dept. just gave our President Trump and his supporters a big middle finger salute.

    You know things are bad when they don’t even try to pretend anymore. They seem to be saying, oh yeah, and what ‘cha gonna do about it?

    In my estimation, our only hope at this point is a big enough landslide election with such big margins that the bastards can’t cheat their way out of it.

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    • Robert Smith says:

      They are going all-in right now. All hands on deck.

      They aim to remove Trump, whether through impeachment or by alternate means, before the 2020 election.

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    • botchedcasuality says:

      They will allow Trump to win, but my bet goes to a major effort to take back the Senate. This is where vote rigging will prevail and faux republican candidates will be running. In my state they pretty much open the doors for illegals to register to vote, it appears that the farm worker bus stops at the DMV so everyone can register. It’s a small town in Oregon that never has a DMV wait, last fall took about two hours because of line up and no English was heard. Not sure if they were from Oregon or crossed a bridge from Washington? It’s time that we demand a fingerprint to vote.

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      • casualty- you should see what they’re doing here in the Commie/Blue/Belly of the Beast NY.
        All illegals can not get drivers license and with it automatic voter registration. They start lining up at Motor Vehicle office at 2 am and it’s impossible for actual CITIZENS to transact any business at DMV locations.
        Also- don’t know how many of you have heard about NY “bail reform” law?
        The Demonics that control our state passed a law that allows just about all criminals including the worst (child rapists) to immediately be let loose without bail.
        Another part of the same law allows the most violent criminals/murderers/rapists to be able to go to the homes of their victims to see if they can “discover” evidence relevant to their case.
        People need to wake up! Especially those of you lucky enough to live in Red States.
        Look at NY to see what happens when Demon Rats take over.
        Our American lives as we know them now, will be over if the Demonics take over this country anymore than they have.
        #MAGA2020&FOREVER.

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  33. tjkeller says:

    These letters are MEANINGLESS. The GOP agreed to these new rules on subpoena’s in 2018. Zero subpoena’s without agreement from the minority! Don’t believe me?

    https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/about/rules

    “IX. SUBPEONAS

    The Chairman of the Committee, with the agreement of the Ranking Member or by a vote of the Committee, may subpoena the attendance of a witness at a Committee or Subcommittee hearing or Committee deposition, or the production of memoranda, documents, records, or any other materials.”

    This is why all we see are these PATHETIC letters. Zero hearings and zero results. I don’t understand why NOBODY is talking about this critical rule. Think about it….do you remember anyone being subpoena’d by the Senate since Trump was elected? I don’t. Absolutely nothing has been done.

    This needs to be asked of Lindsey….put that worm on the spot. The worst part is that the GOP agreed to this asinine rule. Absolutely pathetic.

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    • Darklich123 says:

      We’ve known this. Lindsay was asked this and he didn’t say because we changed the rule. But Joe Denevano did. The minute he wasn’t hired as AG was when I knew we we’re screwed. We will go the way of Rome and the Soviet Union in the very near future.

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    • VegGOP says:

      No true. “with the agreement of the Ranking Member **or** by a vote of the Committee” [emphasis added] does NOT mean “Zero subpoena’s without agreement from the minority!” If the Ranking Member refuses, then the Chair can put it to a vote of the committee and get the subpoenas even with zero votes from the minority.

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    • Y’all Know What Time It is says:

      Well at least get them on record by making them vote against the subpoenas.

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  34. dustycowpoke says:

    This sure looks like a total clusterf*ck. SNAFU and FUBAR are too mild a term.

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  35. Skeeball says:

    This could also be an attempt to stop Barr and Durham from making further progress. If Deep State Lindsey gets the opportunity to investigate the coup plotters, he could say that the release of any of Durham’s findings should be classified due to an ongoing investigation by the Senate. We’ve seen this all before.

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  36. Zydeco says:

    Saint Valentines Day Massacre.

    Deep State Slaughters Latter Day Patriots of the Dying Republic.

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  37. clulessgrandpa says:

    I guess we can fire all the IG’s. What good are they? They take two years to write a report and then nothing happens. ACCOUNTABILTY? none

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  38. Robert Smith says:

    I might have missed it – how many days of hearings has Lyndsey Graham held, thus far, during his tenure at the powerful Senate Judiciary Committee?

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    • tjkeller says:

      ZERO!

      These letters are MEANINGLESS. The GOP agreed to these new rules on subpoena’s in 2018. Zero subpoena’s without agreement from the minority! Don’t believe me?

      https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/about/rules

      “IX. SUBPEONAS

      The Chairman of the Committee, with the agreement of the Ranking Member or by a vote of the Committee, may subpoena the attendance of a witness at a Committee or Subcommittee hearing or Committee deposition, or the production of memoranda, documents, records, or any other materials.”

      This is why all we see are these PATHETIC letters. Zero hearings and zero results. I don’t understand why NOBODY is talking about this critical rule. Think about it….do you remember anyone being subpoena’d by the Senate since Trump was elected? I don’t. Absolutely nothing has been done.

      This needs to be asked of Lindsey….put that worm on the spot. The worst part is that the GOP agreed to this asinine rule. Absolutely pathetic.

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      • Robert Smith says:

        That’s good planning by the UniParty. They certainly excel at gumming up the works.

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      • jebg46 says:

        Republicans have a majority on each committee so if they really vote, they win.

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      • VegGOP says:

        Not true. “with the agreement of the Ranking Member **or** by a vote of the Committee” [emphasis added] does NOT mean “Zero subpoena’s without agreement from the minority!” If the Ranking Member refuses, then the Chair can put it to a vote of the committee and get the subpoenas even with zero votes from the minority.

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  39. islandpalmtrees says:

    SUNDANCE, PLEASE TO CONTINUE TO RELEASE THE TRUTH!

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  40. Retired IG says:

    What is in the water people drink that they keep re-electing Lindsey? He gets their vote, goes to Washington and they forget about him. Graham is the BEST ARGUMENT EVER FOR TERM LIMITS.
    Lindsey wouldn’t even KNOW HOW TO CONDUCT A HEARING! Even his Memo is a JOKE. You’ve got to WRITE DOWN THE QUESTIONS YOU PLAN TO ASK SO PEOPLE CAN PREPARE FOR GIVING TESTIMONY.BOTH ORAL AND WRITTEN. What is he going to ask his witnesses? “Alex, I’ll take $2,000 for Russian Hoaxes”
    Graham needs to put the crack pipe down long enough to read the memo “Please Retire.”

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  41. Retired IG says:

    Oh and yes. As commented previously what the hell is wrong with the Senate that they actually voted for this guy? Really. I guess there are more UNIPARTY Senators than I know of.

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  42. wtd says:

    William Barr allegedly ordered criminal review of Michael Flynn https://trib.al/eDfs8rN

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  43. Beau Geste says:

    PDJT is not “helpless” as President, despite the lilliputians tying him down.

    Here is a suggested draft outline of a very simple, proposed Motion in the crooked FISC, under the Constitutional duties and authority of the President. It would be filed by the Office of the President Counsel, on behalf of the President. The Motion would NOT be classified or “secret”, because it can rely only on public information and IG Findings. There is plenty of caselaw to support withdrawal of improvidently granted motions bases on unethical practice, and discipline of malfeasance and misfeasance, fraud on the court, etc.

    The Motion would be public. Denial could be publicly presented to the Supreme Court. PDJT could declassify all necessary records so the public could follow the proceedings.

    The FISC and Supreme Court would be hard pressed to deny “standing” of the President, as Constitutional President defending civil rights of US Citizens to intervene, because of the Constitutional requirements and duties of the President, and because the President himself was under illegal surveillance from this fraudulent warrant.

    This would be a useful motion instead of “tweets” objected to by AG Barr. PDJT supports the civil rights of the People. If refused, the public would have to confront the fact that the FISC and DOJ deny civil rights and protect illegal political spies and illegal political l spying.

    Sidney Powell could do a much better draft for public understanding, but here goes:

    UNITED STATES
    FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE SUVEILLANCE COURT
    WASHINGTON, DC

    IN RE CARTER W. PAGE, A U.S.
    PERSON

    DOCKET NUMBER:

    Motion to Withdraw Improvidently Granted FISA Warrants and Extensions.

    Motion for Hearing to Discipline DOJ and FBI Personnel for Ethical Violations, Misleading and withholding relevant information from this court including fraud on This Court, and Denial of Civil Rights under Color of Law.

    This Motion is made by the Office of White House Counsel on behalf of the Elected President of The United States, Donald J. Trump, under authority and duties of his sworn Constitutional Oath to “preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States, and to take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed.

    The founding purpose of this Foreign Intelligence Suveillance Court is to protect the civil rights of US Citizens, including those of the 4th Amendment of the Constitution that
    “[t]he right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized,” to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.”

    FACTS-BRIEF ARGUMENT
    [discussion of flaws and malfeasance/misfeasance, failure of duty to verify, failure of duty to immediately advise the Court of “new” evidence, false statements and oaths….]
    [This court’s extra-heavy duty to protect the integrity of its proceedings because defendants are not represented. Malfeasance and misfeasance must be severely disciplined]

    The FISA Warrant may have authorized political surveillance on thousands to millions of US citizens associated of communicating with the Republican Party or its Candidates. Unwarranted secrecy only protects fraud, illegality and embarrassment of the DOJ/FBI. There is no legitimate reason to classify or withhold from those surveilled, notice to them of their surveillance under this FISA Warrant or extensions, or the nature of places or persons searched or seized relating to each such person.

    Relief requested
    It is requested this this Court Order:
    1. The immediate withdrawal of its FISA Warrant of XXX and all subsequent extensions thereof, nunc pro tunc (now as then), as if they had never been granted, so that they cannot function to protect or authorize any surveillance.
    2. Notification of each and every US Citizen who has been surveilled under this FISA Warrant including its extensions, so that such persons can seek redress for violation of civil rights.
    3. Hearings to determine and impose appropriate discipline for malfeasance and misfeasance by DOJ and FBI personnel relating to the authorization, preparation, representation, support or presentation of this FISA Warrant or its extensions to or in this Court.

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  44. mg says:

    We are going to have to shut down commerce in all 50 states. Everyone should stock up on medical supplies, food and water.

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  45. Gadsden says:

    Benghazi all over again. The cover up is in the final phases. The rubes (us) will be given some show hearings where the conspirators are raked over the coals for a couple of days, all the participants in the kabuki will go some cigars together as have a good laugh and nothing will ever come of it.

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  46. Republicanvet91 says:

    That picture of Graham looks like he just sat on something enjoyable.

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  47. Parrot says:

    Yo’all will get it eventually. When the 3rd world immigrant voting demographic controls Congress it will be forever. Same with the Senate. That happens when Texas and eventually Florida are routinely blue. Then it doesn’t really matter who the President is.
    Demographics are destiny.
    But by all means, pretend the unicorns over there are meaningful.

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  48. gueppebarre says:

    I’m wondering if this is the “deal” that McTurtle made with the WH to quash the impeachment. Knowing the kind of snake McConnell and many of the republicans are, it’s hard to think that they really didn’t want to get rid of PDJT (you know they would like nothing better, so they can get back to biz as usual). So perhaps they worked a deal that all of their swamp buddies would go free in exchange for a quick out on the trial. Hard to believe that Senate republicans would soundly acquit the President and get nothing for it, that’s the kind of people they are. Forget all of that talk from their pieholes about the impeachment being “unconstitutional,” which it was – they have no loyalty to the Constitution. They are clinking glasses tonight with the same democrats they were harping about last week.
    There has to be some reason why all of these people are skating. Could this be it?

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  49. ChampagneReady says:

    “Dana Boente …………. BA BOOM.

    Maybe. And better be !

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  50. Fools Gold says:

    Well at least we got a letter with a good starting list before his election primary. That’s saying a hell of a lot for Lindsey the punk from South Carolina, but like Dobbs, I call BS.

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