AG Bill Barr Chooses to Protect Rosenstein Over Full Disclosure in Flynn Case…

Regardless of whether you would support or not support the vigorous defense of Michael Flynn, I would hope we would all agree a fulsome discovery of all relevant background material is a cornerstone of justice appropriately applied.

With that in mind it is concerning how Attorney General Bill Barr would prefer to keep DOJ conduct against Flynn hidden from public review.  Consider…

♦Would it be valuable for Federal Judge Emmet Sullivan to know the FBI was discussing how to “lock in” charges against [Flynn] in a “formal chargeable way”?

(text message link)

♦Would it be valuable for Federal Judge Emmet Sullivan to consider how Special Counsel Robert Mueller requested DAG Rod Rosenstein to provide leverage against [Mike Flynn Jr] to coerce a plea against Michael Flynn in the second scope memo?

(page 12 and 13 of Weissman report)

♦Would it be relevant for the purposes of Judge Emmet Sullivan to consider how former National Security Advisor Susan Rice was portraying Lt. General Flynn, as a target for intelligence community concern, prior to President Trump taking office?

[…]  From a national security perspective, however, President Obama said he wants to be sure that, as we engage with the incoming team, we are mindful to ascertain if there is any reason that we cannot share information fully as it relates to Russia.

[Redacted Classified Section of Unknown length]

The President [Obama] asked Comey to inform him if anything changes in the next few weeks that should affect how we share classified information with the incoming team. Corney said he would. (link)

~ Susan Rice Memo to File

♦ Would it be important for Flynn’s defense to have the full and unredacted text messages of the investigators and accusers against Michael Flynn as they plotted their strategy?

♦ Would it be important to know what “classified briefing material” would be “in the interests of fairness” to Lt. Gen Michael Flynn?

If you find yourself saying: yes, regardless of support for or against Flynn, it would be fair and in the correct course of justice for all relevant evidence to be known to both the public and defense….  Then ask yourself why isn’t that view held by AG Bill Barr?

Attorney General Bill Barr was granted the power to declassify all five of the examples cited above which directly relate to the prior DOJ and FBI motives in their investigation of Michael Flynn…. there are many, many more.  Yet, AG Bill Barr has done nothing to provide that fulsome discovery.

AG Bill Barr doesn’t need a court order to provide the truth.  Currently the prosecution of Michael Flynn is directly under Bill Barr’s authority.  Heck, the President of the United States has authorized Bill Barr to declassify any/all material that may be needed in the honest search or truth and justice.  And Bill Barr has done absolutely nothing.

But it’s actually worse.  AG Barr has gone to court to argue he is under no obligation to provide the declassified material to anyone; for anything.

In a September 2019 court filing, surrounding a FOIA case seeking access to the fully unredacted Carter Page FISA application, the DOJ clarified the position of the DOJ as it pertains to President Trump’s May 2019 declassification authority. (pdf available here)

The DOJ highlights that President Trump did not order AG William Barr to declassify anything.  Instead, according to the official position of the DOJ, President Trump “delegated authority” to the Attorney General to determine *if* anything should be declassified:

[Source – pdf]

At the time of the DOJ position I stated “whether AG Bill Barr does actually declassify anything is open to debate.  The current odds remain slightly less than 50/50; however, those odds could diminish significantly if the impeachment effort is successful.”

In hindsight I hate my own prescience.

On Wednesday President Trump will be impeached by the House of Representatives.  One of those articles of impeachment declares President Trump is guilty of “obstruction of congress.”

There’s a strong likelihood that after the impeachment vote President Trump will not be able to declassify anything lest he be accused of obstructing his own impeachment.  This is the same legal catch-22 President Trump faced in September 2018 when DOJ Rod Rosenstein advised (threatened) the President that any action he took at the time to declassify material would be considered “obstruction” of the Mueller investigation.

Strange how those legal Lawfare principles seem to resurface in a circular fashion, and always to the detriment of the person seeking justice.  Thus the purpose behind the name “Lawfare”; using the law in political warfare.

Returning to the current case in point, it has seemed clear from his decisions that AG Bill Barr was focused on protecting former Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein from the consequences of his narrow-minded efforts throughout 2017 and 2018.  The lack of action to declassify material related to the prosecution of Lt. General Michael Flynn seems to indicate that protecting Rosenstein is a higher priority that stopping an injustice against Flynn.

This is the state of our union in 2019.

I don’t pay attention to the distracting high-constitutional words of AG Barr, I look at his actions….  By withholding information from the public; and specifically by withholding the scope memos that authorized the investigations of 2016, 2017 and 2018; the United States Attorney General is willing to let a man hang simply to protect his institutional comrade.

With that institutional disposition clearly evident, what do you think AG Bill Barr will do when it comes to hiding evidence of institutional corruption that would clearly support President Donald Trump?

In criminal law, seminal jurist William Blackstone said: “It is better that ten guilty persons escape than one innocent suffer.”

In AG Barr’s modern interpretation: “it is better that one innocent man suffer than have guilty institutions be discovered.”

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600 Responses to AG Bill Barr Chooses to Protect Rosenstein Over Full Disclosure in Flynn Case…

  1. Tom Hansen says:

    Rosenstein has been a central figure in the coup plot, and when he was brought in as DAG, it was his job to keep the coup going. I believe that Rosenstein told Barr everything he knew regarding the coup and all the players involved including himself as a complicit player.

    For that cooperation, I believe Barr gave him a pass and will not prosecute him. But Barr has all the intel for Durham to do a thorough investigation and will begin preparing indictments. This is why Barr was so confident last March telling the House Judiciary Committee that there indeed was spying.

    I still believe Barr as honorable and his actions will occur at the right time to declass and indict.

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    • albertus magnus says:

      Yeah, and I still believe in Santa Claus. I am as excited as you are!

      Liked by 1 person

    • Carrie says:

      This is like déjà vu all over again with AG Barr like we had with AG Sessions. We sure were hoping he was going to follow “the plan”, but boy, that sure was a bitter ending….

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      • JoeB says:

        I’m also of the opinion that something is going on behind the scenes. I mean, where’s Sydney? Where are the other Hannity groupie Lawyers? Where’s the President on this?

        They CANNOT just sit back and let this happen. They know that the Brady material is relevant and exculpatory!

        They would not let this railroaded innocent Patriot go to prison and let the Coup Plotters and Perpetrators walk free!

        I am certain, they WILL NOT let this happen!

        There’s too much at stake!

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      • Zippy says:

        My having been a cynic about him due to his past performance as AG for daddy Bush and in the legal council office of the CIA has paid off – UNFORTUNATELY.

        I wonder what percent of people in this country finally and conclusively realize that this and virtually everything else involved with SpyGate, UkraineGate, pre-Crossfire Hurricane spying, the contents of several reports on unpunished fraud against the FISC, and unpunished NSA product misuse all prove in spades that justice under the law is dead?

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    • Perot Conservative says:

      More 4D chess?

      We were told Lisa Page flipped … then she comes out as a tool of Lawfare.

      Liked by 3 people

      • Paul Smith says:

        Cooperating witness ≠ “flipped,” necessarily.

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      • Garavaglia says:

        Yep..no concrete evidence she has flipped or cooperated or anything..just guesses.

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      • jello333 says:

        Actually though, we’re still in the dark about a lot of things. I know the way Lisa is acting, she still seems to be more or less in the good graces of the conspirators. But until indictments start coming down, and we get some info as to who’s cooperating and who’s not, there’s still a chance that she HAS flipped.

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    • JoeB says:

      I’m also of the opinion that something is going on behind the scenes. I mean, where’s Sydney? Where are the other Hannity groupie Lawyers? Where’s the President on this?

      They CANNOT just sit back and let this happen. They know that the Brady material is relevant and exculpatory!

      They would not let this railroaded innocent Patriot go to prison and let the Coup Plotters and Perpetrators walk free!

      I am certain, they WILL NOT let this happen!

      There’s too much at stake!

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    • bertdilbert says:

      In order for Rosenstein to walk, Flynn has to hang. What is so awful in the scope memo’s that has to be hidden from public view? Basically another secret court? If you withhold evidence, you are influencing the outcome. If you influence the outcome you become the judge.

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    • Erik Heter says:

      I want to believe that, but if he lets Flynn get sentenced in this obvious frame job, I will have a much, much harder time having any faith in him. What he should do now is either
      a) force the prosecution to drop the case altogether; or
      b) turn over all of the evidence requested to Powell and to the court. I’d love to see this because it would absolutely kneecap Sullivan, who deserves that and a whole lot worse after today’s disgrace.

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    • frankmystery says:

      Even if this was true, I doubt it, no more free passes. Period. Those who abuse need to be made examples of, harshly. Think for a minute about what it would take to restore America’s belief that the system of law is restored and followed? I don’t think they can reach that high of a bar.

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    • coltlending says:

      Yea, that carrot has been chewd down to a nub.

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    • snellvillebob says:

      I now suspect Barr is blowing his bagpipes at us.

      Liked by 3 people

    • YeahYouRight says:

      Barr can’t let everything hang out while Durham is seeking indictments. They cannot be allowed to coordinate testimony. It’s not all about Flynn, nor our right to know, and honestly, he made a plea. There is a bigger picture. This was a long shot.

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    • LEET says:

      Do you believe in the Santa Clause and the tooth fairy too?

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    • aarmad says:

      Barr is a swampo pure and simple. There will be NO indictments! I suspected Barr from the beginning and what you are saying seems to confirm that. It is all corrupt to the core. Barr, Durham, the IG, doj, and the fbi. Sorry, but that is the way it is.

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    • mushr45m says:

      AG Bill BP Barr = The Cleaner

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  2. DeWalt says:

    The fix was in. Just me but I think this is more about shoving it up Sidney’s ass for her book.

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    • Jim in TN says:

      But Sydney is free to wait these bozos out and damn them with another book. Barr included.

      And, if Flynn wants, there should be plenty to use in appeal.

      Sullivan was at least a ray of hope where his past behavior indicated a chance that he could have sought true Justice and the release of the truth.

      But remember that the investigations of Flynn and of Manafort both started long before Crossfire Hurricane was dreamed up. The coverup continues. Barr and Sullivan are part of the coverup.

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      • snellvillebob says:

        I am not sure if someone can appeal a guilty plea.

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        • Hanuman says:

          Does Flynn have to reaffirm before sentence is handed down?

          He can withdraw and ?

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        • Jim in TN says:

          Found this on criminalfindlaw. You are mostly correct.
          https://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-procedure/can-you-appeal-a-plea-bargain.html

          One of the first things to know when pleading guilty or no contest, is that you’re effectively giving up your right to appeal the sentence, absent an egregious error by your attorney or the court. The United States Supreme Court has consistently held that a defendant can elect to waive many important constitutional and statutory rights during the plea bargaining process including the right to appeal the sentence later.

          But Flynn’s lawyers filled out the FARA paperwork that was being used to prosecute him. By advising him to plead guilty, that charge and their culpability was removed. Serious conflict of interest.

          And how can anyone say that the prosecutors aren’t abusing the law or that the court isn’t making egregious errors?

          So while it will be difficult, but appeal is possible. On the other hand, appeals will likely last much longer than any sentance.

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          • aisheschayal says:

            No question about it, there was an egregious error by his previous attorney and by the court. The decision stinks to high heaven. More covering up by DOJ, disgusting, while Flynn and family get burned at the stake. We have come full circle in the ethics arena.

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          • Zorro says:

            Unfortunately Flynn’s plea deal includes a Waiver of Appeal.

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          • Joemama says:

            It is clear that Sullivan made an egregious error by not recognizing the obvious conflict of interest of Flynn’s FARA application lawyers also representing him for a prosecution under FARA. Flynn should not have been allowed to use the FARA lawyers for his defense – it was Sullivan’s obligation to not allow this.

            Is there a way to get Sullivan dismissed from adjudicating the case, due to his failure to do his job?

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          • snellvillebob says:

            I understand that Andrew Weissmann, who was the leader of the DOJ team prosecuting Flynn, quit the DOJ and is now working for the law firm that was representing Flynn. Can you spell collusion or…RICO?

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  3. Cyberfoy says:

    Trump can fix this if he wants.

    Liked by 4 people

    • albertus magnus says:

      Exactly right. THAT is the observation that people should be making.

      Liked by 3 people

    • Bradley says:

      This is correct. Saying you don’t trust Barr on declassification is the same as saying that you don’t trust Trump. Just because Trump gave Barr the keys on declassifying, doesn’t mean he didn’t keep an extra set for himself.
      Flynn is not going to prison. Either Trump will pardon him, or this will get rectified. If it is left for Trump to pardon him then that means that Barr is saving the release of all things deep state corruption for the day of reckoning of all the other crooks.

      Liked by 1 person

    • mike dennis says:

      He can’t do anything with the sword of Damocles over his head.

      Liked by 1 person

      • cyberfoy says:

        Yes he can. There is no sword of Damocles over his head unless Epstein had dirty pictures of him, which he did NOT. Trust in Congress, the media, and D.C. have bottomed out. Mueller, Impeachment, and a 3 year media war against Trump have all fizzled. They have been exposed naked and corrupt for all to see. Trump has all the momentum and it is important his supporters understand that.

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    • aarmad says:

      May be the only hope!

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  4. butch cassidy says:

    Is it possible that Sullivan plans on throwing this case out come the 28th?

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  5. MitchRyderDetroitWheels says:

    The US government is a corrupt organization. You will never be able to vote the corrupt out of office.

    Liked by 2 people

  6. The Devilbat says:

    18 U.S. Code § 2385. Advocating overthrow of Government.
    Whoever knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States or the government of any State, Territory, District or Possession thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein, by force or violence, or by the assassination of any officer of any such government; or
    Whoever, with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of any such government, prints, publishes, edits, issues, circulates, sells, distributes, or publicly displays any written or printed matter advocating, advising, or teaching the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying any government in the United States by force or violence, or attempts to do so; or
    Whoever organizes or helps or attempts to organize any society, group, or assembly of persons who teach, advocate, or encourage the overthrow or destruction of any such government by force or violence; or becomes or is a member of, or affiliates with, any such society, group, or assembly of persons, knowing the purposes thereof—
    Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.
    If two or more persons conspire to commit any offense named in this section, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.
    As used in this section, the terms “organizes” and “organize”, with respect to any society, group, or assembly of persons, include the recruiting of new members, the forming of new units, and the regrouping or expansion of existing clubs, classes, and other units of such society, group, or assembly of persons.

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    • Somebody's Gramma says:

      Then they better start building more prisons because 63+ million people are going to go to jail if they keep this sh*t up.

      We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.–That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, –That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

      Liked by 4 people

    • cboldt says:

      Key phrase in all that “by force or violence.”
      I have read very little in the way of nonviolent civil disobedience. There must be thousands of ways to put sand in the gears.

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  7. jingosam says:

    If Barr really is a Trojan horse … and right now I think that seems entirely possible … history will crucify him along with all the other criminals that have put stumbling blocks in the path of the greatest president America has ever had.

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  8. redhotrugmama says:

    This is not suprising and it is very scary and sad that Barr would let Flynn go to jail knowing there is Brady material that would set him free. The fact that he has not declassified the necessary materials tells me what I have suspected all along. Barr is part of the deep state like the rest of them. PDT should never have given the authority over to Barr. He lost control at that point. The question is will he take it back before Wednesday. Im concerned if he does not these documents will never ever see the light of day and his actions concern me as to how the Senate trial is going to go. I have ZERO warm and fuzzies. 😦 In my mind it would be far better for PDT to order declassification and let the chips fall where they may even if it means people are not prosecuted which I don’t think is going to happen anyways. Light the zippo lighter Mr. President please!

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  9. seanbrady says:

    Here’s an idea, a hope really. Maybe Barr assumed (as we all did) that Sullivan would order all if this material turned over.

    So he might have figured: pick your battles, fight my own DOJ when I have to but leave them to their own devices when I don’t have to because the judge will do it for me.

    If that’s what he was thinking and if he was willing to fight if necessary then perhaps he will declassify before sentencing.

    Maybe the judge was thinking the same thing, figuring why not leave this battle to Barr and that’s why he scheduled sentencing so far in advance.

    Thoughts?

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    • joeknuckles says:

      Sounds plausible to me, but we’re supposed to be outraged, dammit!

      Liked by 1 person

    • mimbler says:

      Very possible. I have the opinion that Barr is trying to avoid the charges of having his thumb on the scales in a political manner – so he is trying to stay out of the light on political issues while proceeding with Durham on the main fight.

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    • Erik Heter says:

      Well, if that was Barr’s plan, it didn’t work. Time for him to just turn over all the evidence to Powell and let her present it to Judge Sullivan. That will put him on the spot and have the additional benefit of kneecapping and humiliating him after today’s disgraceful ruling.

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  10. JaimeInTexas says:

    Cue in Q – trust the plan, ….

    This is winning?

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  11. Barr flipped Rodentstain and used him to shut down the Weissman/Muller Cabal. I don’t think this classified material would make a damn bit of difference to this judge. They targeted Flynn even before President Trump.

    The Clintons didn’t sell all the pardons, either. Although they tried.

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  12. Magabear says:

    I’m no legal scholar, but it seems to me that the time when PDJT should’ve declassified documents was shortly after the Mueller hoax ended. As has been said here, he can’t do it now due to shampeachment.

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    • Dan says:

      Of course he can. The idea that it is obstruction of justice to inform the American people what the organs of government are doing is absurd. I don’t know which way this will go but the Judge is an ass who has had access to the material. So releasing it will expose a corrupt judge. Let him make his ruling, declass everything that is relevant, and then hammer the judge. I hope that will happen. I expect nothing

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    • Hanuman says:

      Why not?

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  13. Jederman says:

    “it is better that one innocent man suffer than have guilty institutions be discovered.”

    The only problem is those “institutions” are no longer legitimate. There is not enough lipstick on the planet for that pig. There really is nothing to protect.

    We are now at point in this country where we, the citizen, no longer have a say in the behavior of the DS bureaucrats. There are no deals to be made, there is no 64D chess to play, and PT doesn’t appear to have a legal move to make. The DS no longer has voluntary compliance. All they have is the power to compel. Of, by and for the people? I think not.

    The msm (every platform) is corrupt. They are owned by the DS and serve the DS (using our airwaves and bandwidth). The CoC has the senate locked down and cowering under their desks. I can only envision a drastic, very drastic move by PT to get this mess under control.

    Incrementalism and finesse are not the answer now. The DS has made it so.

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  14. Angel Martin says:

    Ignore what they say, watch what they do.

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  15. Tiffthis says:

    The only thing comforting to me is that the pattern for the last 3+ years is when it seems to be a bad day for Trump or others around him, some winning is soon to follow.

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  16. Buzzsaw says:

    Presume Barr is as corrupt as the others until he proves otherwise. And be mad about it, too – that’s called righteous anger.

    Liked by 1 person

    • mamajen says:

      There is nothing righteous about assumption of guilt.

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    • cboldt says:

      I’ll go a step further. Presumed corrupt, even if they perform a righteous action. The most effective traitors are the ones that build trust, then cash it in.
      It’s not personal. It’s just good business. It’s called “arms length.” The government is demonstrated corrupt at every level and every function.

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  17. RAC says:

    Why doesn’t Sydney cut out the middle men and write an open letter to AG Barr asking for the stuff she needs. Might not get anything but would put Barr on the spot, especially if it was “if not why not”.

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  18. John Comnenus says:

    I agree with SD comments re the need to release the Brady material to Flynn. I think Sullivan convicting Flynn on this obvious framing of a good man is disgusting. Hopefully Sullivan will throw the case out.
    However, I don’t think Barr should involve himself yet. Any intercession by Barr or Trump prior to sentencing will be played as obstruction of justice or political interference and will allow the Dems to attack Barr and or Trump if Trump gets involved.

    I think Barr should wait to see what Sullivan does. If Sullivan convicts I think Barr should immediately stay any punishment and appoint a Special Counsel to investigate the case, including Sullivan’s handling of the case. If, as appears the case, that Sullivan has denied Flynn his rights then Sullivan should be impeached after the 2020 election.

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    • kleen says:

      We have been waiting for over 3 years and we are basically out of time.

      We fell for their trap.

      Wait and wait and wait… while they destroy evidence and work on their next plan to remove POTUS.

      …while we keep waiting…

      We’ve done NOTHING BUT wait.

      Trump pardoning Flynn solves very little in the sense that they will keep going after innocent people forever. What happens to them after Trump is gone? 10 years from now? What happens to people the swamp throw in prison 10 years from now?

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    • John Comnenus says:

      At some stage Roberts is going to have to be impeached for his gross negligence, or worse, in how he has repeatedly allowed his Courts to be abuse by political animus and done nothing about it. The inaction of Roberts, in my view, has done more damage to the US Justice system than any other person in this whole saga. It is Roberts who is responsible for upholding the rule of law and the Constitution in his courts and by his judges. He has repeatedly failed to discharge this most important duty and as a result a growing majority of Americans no longer trust his courts and judges. Roberts is a disgrace to the office he holds..

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      • ristvan says:

        Nonsense. Federal judges are NOT CJ Roberts judges. They were nominated by a sitting president, confirmed by a sitting Senate, and operate independently.

        He has only two responsibilities: he is CJ of SCOTUS (meaning assigning opinions, heading cert reviews), and he picks FISC judges. He does not supervise FISC. He has no direct say over the decisions of lower level federal judges per A3§1. He has only one of nine SCOTUS votes. By tradition CJ votes tend to be centrist in order to minimize 5-4 rulings.

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    • bertdilbert says:

      Sullivan has made a decision and sentencing is scheduled. Done deal.

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      • dwpender says:

        If General Flynn decides to move to withdraw his guilty plea (and that is entirely up to him), Sullivan will have to address that motion. I will not predict what position the DOJ without Liu may take on such a motion, and how Sullivan may then rule.

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    • snellvillebob says:

      Flynn already plead guilty because they changed the 302 on his interrogation in the White House. They introduced manufactured evidence in his trial as the truth so he could only plead guilty.
      Sullivan is doing the sentencing. The only way out for Flynn is for Sullivan to declare a mistrial.

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  19. Arik Sharon says:

    Could it be that Barr is protecting Trump? Maybe a deal has been struck that if those documents are not Declassified that Mitch McConnell will hold back all of his corrupt Senators who he owns, Body and Soul, from convicting Trump to be removed from office. Anyway you slice it and dice it, we are not masters of our destiny. We are the subjects of the Leviathan.

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  20. kleen says:

    Head up:

    1-House Democrats Demand Mueller’s Secret Grand Jury Files For Impeachment

    There’s something in there, they need.

    2-STUNNING! Democrats Make Up Wire Fraud Charge to “Criminally” Indict Trump — And Suggest 20 YEARS IN PRISON!
    Jim Hoft

    3-Stalinist House Democrats Vow to Continue Impeachment Investigations Even if (When) Senate Acquits President Trump
    by Cristina Laila

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  21. frankmystery says:

    Even with Trump re-elected how can we hope to make a dent in this mess?? It took Horowitz 2 years to deliver and who knows when Durham will deliver. Do we really think Durham is going to take down the system or be allowed to? Every article like this gets me so burning angry I can’t see straight! I love what Trump is doing but there’s no way he can right this ship, we’ve seen too much. The whole dang system, even globally, is diseased! The media is the worst part. Literally propagandizing the American public which I thought was illegal!

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  22. Trialbytruth says:

    I’d like to beleive that, I just don’t see it in my tea leaves. Is there anything that points you there?

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  23. burnett044 says:

    of Barr and Ruby Ridge….

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    • lolli says:

      👍Thank you burnett🇺🇸, exactly why I can not trust Barr.
      Anyone who thinks Barr is straight, look into Ruby ridge.

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      • donna kovacevic says:

        Very interesting video. Perhaps that is why Barr and wife, Mueller and wife are buddies go to Bible study and Church together, all those sins wow. I always take solace that “Vengeance is Mine sayeth the Lord” and they will face that one day, as we all will. God Bless PDJT. Prayers to Lt. Michael Flynn and Family.

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  24. Justin Green says:

    I posted something similar in the other thread – so my apologies….

    I’m no attorney, but couldn’t Barr just have the charges dropped without declassifying anything? Just tell his pit bulls to file a motion dropping the case due to “exculpatory evidence” that is currently classified.

    What choice would the judge have but to dismiss the case?

    It seems to me Barr could have done this as soon as the IG report dropped, since the joint motion to delay the hearing was contingent upon the release of the IG report.

    But he hasn’t. C’mon Barr… where are you?

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  25. Perot Conservative says:

    I love Joe Joe DiGenova, but maybe he’s had too many highballs.

    “Bill Barr loves the law.”

    Really?

    Louis Farrakhan said a out a year ago, It took President Trump to highlight what we’ve been saying for 50 years.

    But Joe does have good one liners like “dirty cops”.

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    • Justin Green says:

      There are a lot of people singing Barr’s praises these days in the Conservative media.
      Based on – as far as I can tell – nothing more than a few good speeches.

      I like Joe DiGenova and his wife. Time will tell if their faith is well placed.

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  26. hokkoda says:

    Flynn’s Brady motion has been rejected. Ordered to report for sentencing on 1/28/20.

    That’s too bad. I had hoped the IG report might illustrate that Powell was not pursuing a “conspiracy theory” as alleged by the prosecution.

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  27. youme says:

    I wonder who really wrote Sullivan’s opinion

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    • youme says:

      Best part
      “Judge Sullivan also won’t order DOJ to turn over transcripts or recordings of Flynn’s conversations with the Russian ambassador. If those things even exist, Flynn has “failed to establish that the requested information … is exculpatory.”

      How can it be established without being allowed to listen to the conversation?

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      • youme says:

        “Judge Sullivan flatly rejects Flynn’s arguments “that the FBI conducted an ambush interview for the purpose of trapping him into making false statements and that the government pressured him to enter a guilty plea. The record proves otherwise.”

        Comey bragged on TV, with his classic smirk on his face, laughin about ,how they planned and ambush Flynn

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      • Justin Green says:

        The same goes for the rest of the classified information that the Judge ruled on – unless the Judge has seen the classified information, which would be gross misconduct on his part.

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    • Perot Conservative says:

      His Liberal Millenial underlings, with help from Lawfare.

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    • Carrie says:

      Probably had input from some Lawfare types. To pick bones about an improper citation is rather pathetic. There was a hyperlink provided. One thing is for sure, Sullivan’s words are seething with anger. Ms. Powell’s book really burned him- too bad!

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    • Justin Green says:

      You know, the judge, in his ruling, is engaging in some circular argumentation when he relies on statements made by Flynn while Flynn claims he was under duress to prove that Flynn was not under duress. Uh, that’s the entire point.

      Flynn made statements and entered a plea while he was under duress. The judge can’t then rely on those statements to prove that Flynn wasn’t under duress.

      That’s nonsensical, circular, and illogical. Stupid liberal judge.

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    • Carrie says:

      In case you wondered if Sullivan liked the Mueller report (boy this guy is a grade A dunce)…

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  28. Revenant says:

    I think you miss the mark here:

    1. Powell’s defense is a bit too-clever-by-half. She is trying to protect her client (Flynn) from the criminal liability that may arise if the plea deal was withdrawn, while also attacking the proceedings. Whatever you think about Judge Sullivan, the more straightforward approach is for Flynn to claim that he is innocent (and withdraw the plea), and then fight the charges, than plead guilty while having his counsel attack the process.

    A judge might be sympathetic to a person proclaiming his innocence. He’s not likely to be sympathetic to a defendant who states that he’s guilty, but that the process was corrupt.

    Sullivan doesn’t care about whether Mueller wanted to apply pressure to Flynn’s son. Not when Flynn is saying that he’s guilty.

    2. You’re taking the “Obstruction of Congress” charge too far. Let’s assume Trump is impeached. There will be a trial, and Trump will almost certainly be acquitted. Politically, Trump releasing batches of declassified documents during the trial might look bad — but that’s a political calculation, not a legal one. Trump will have the inherent authority to declassify as long as he’s president.

    Once acquitted, there is still nothing that can stop Trump from legally declassifying documents. What’s Congress going to do? Impeach him again? On the basis that Trump declassifying documents after acquittal somehow proves that he “Obstructed Congress” previously?

    Out of all the frivolous arguments that the Democrats are offering (and there are many) that one strikes me as perhaps the most frivolous.

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    • Dan says:

      This is one of the poisonous things that infect all of the vipers in DOJ. They can threaten someone with decades in prison, or life, with massive overcharging, or threaten to bring charges against family, and then the judge asks the defendant if he was coerced. Of course if they have coerced you, and the only way to avoid the hell they threaten you with, you must deny the coercion. The standard should NOT be the plea and extorted denial of coercion. The standard should be the actions of the government. If the government has threatened to charge others, but offers to ignore those supposed crimes inxchange for a plea, coercion was involved. Similarly, if the government agrees to drop a bunch of charges, or more serious ones, in exchange for a plea, then the plea is a product of coercion. The government should be forced to prosecute EVERY charge or drop them all.

      The rate of 90%+ of federal cases being settled by plea agreements is a national disgrace and proof that there is no justice in the system. With very few exceptions, Federal prosecutors are absolute scum.

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      • Revenant says:

        The vast majority of criminal matters (both Federal and State) are resolve by plea deals. The system literally would fall apart — cease to run — if every criminal defendant fought every aspect of their case from start to finish.

        This is the system we have. And — like it or not — a Federal judge is likely to provide some level of trust to the FBI / DOJ. Hell, judges WANT there to be plea deals to move dockets (and allow the judge to avoid making decisions).

        We may find the system to be right, or wrong, but it’s not being resolved through the vehicle of the Flynn case.

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    • bertdilbert says:

      But Sullivan said the guilty plea was good so I do not understand your argument.

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    • tommylotto says:

      Agreed. Powell was trying to have her cake and eat it too. At the first sentencing hearing Sullivan was practically daring Flynn to withdraw his plea, and he gave Flynn a generous amount of time to think about it and to hire new counsel before making his decision. I know Powell is a hero around here, but she and Flynn had only two roads to follow: 1) accept the plea and beg for mercy; or 2) reject the plea and fight like hell. They tried to forge a third way — accept the plea but fight like hell anyway. Sullivan was not amused.

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      • aisheschayal says:

        Sullivan was not amused – Sullivan is a SOB! He is not allowing evidence that could clear General Flynn from accusations of wrong doing. I don’t give a damn that he offered a guilty plea. If a gun is put to your head and your family is threatened in front of your eyes you will lie to whoever is holding the gun! He should not be held to this plea due to the overwhelming evidence brought by Sidney Powell of the DOJ’s efforts to deceive the judge and hide exculpatory evidence. Please, someone get a handle on reality!!!!!!! The document requested by Sidney must be released so the TRUTH can be examined.

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    • Justin Green says:

      Yes, but that’s the whole point. Whatever Flynn said while he claims he was under duress could well be the result of his being under duress. Including statements made to the court as well as his plea.

      It seems quite circular to argue, “Well, we’re not going to look into whether you were under duress, because while you claim to have been under duress, you plead guilty and admitted guilt under oath.”

      Duh. That’s the whole point.

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    • MustangBlues says:

      Thank you. Thank for this comment.
      ”Revenant says:
      December 16, 2019 at 7:02 pm” Please comment often.

      Finally, some cogent information and explanation about the Flynn case. So much here in the comments, are pure snark or wallowing in bathos for public consumption.

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    • TMonroe says:

      “A judge might be sympathetic to a person proclaiming his innocence. He’s not likely to be sympathetic to a defendant who states that he’s guilty, but that the process was corrupt.”

      If a judge who follows the law sees egregious and improper conduct by prosecutors, he will act accordingly.

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  29. alonzo1956 says:

    My hope is that President Trump declassifies EVERYTHING that has been asked for and let the chips fall where they may. If we are going to be something other than what the founding fathers wanted, we should all be fully aware of that fact. I would DARE the Senate to remove him from office! The resulting stock market collapse and associated chaos would be the best medicine for all of the elites in America. It would harm the average joe far less. Put your 401k plans in whatever stable asset fund that is available, or the money market to not lose money.

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    • Somebody's Gramma says:

      I know everyone loves that their 401k’s and the stock market are doing so well. But… cash out and buy land, and a retreat in a Red state and learn to work with your hands, grow your own food, etc… like most of the Heartland does. If the markets implode, you’ll be okay. Penny for your thoughts.

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      • alonzo1956 says:

        I already do the things you suggest and was more concerned about others with exposure. My retirements have been out of the market in safe havens for some time. I can go more than a year if everything became worth nothing. I believed in being ready for the worst of times for years. We should all be ready!

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    • slopoke1 says:

      Don’t plan on getting out unscathed. No matter where you store your wealth, the government will find it and steal it.

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  30. BobR says:

    Trump is an army of one and the deep state gov is satisfied to either remove or worst case for them, live with him for only four more years. Every time a congressman republican or democrat has a town hall or press conference questions about the rule of law should be asked. Why wasn’t Hilary, Comey, Brennan, Clapper prosecuted?

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  31. Sara c says:

    Flynn needs to withdraw his plea prior to sentencing and then request all exculpatory documents as part of discovery. Ms. Powell needs to bring in a co-counsel that has the appropriate clearances who can review. All of us Treepers need to donate to his fund for the trial if he withdraws his plea. I am sick about this

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  32. Don McAro says:

    All that pops in my head is the article that Sundance wrote long ago URGING President Trump NOT to entertain the idea of General Flynn on his staff because of the mess he created in Turkey…
    That should have been enough…. And most of this would have been avoided Had our President passed over him…

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    • Carrie says:

      I was thinking about that too. Gen. Flynn definitely presented some problems with conflict of interest where Turkey was concerned (but to be honest PDJT has struggled to find good people and the Uniparty is looking to undercut him at every corner and people like McMaster did in part succeed in delaying his agenda).
      But then I remembered that he actually did file a FARA (the Podesta brothers never did!) and that law firm was obviously some how influenced by Lawfare because they made sure it was “deficient”. Then they went on to represent him and totally screwed up his case. So I would think that actually hiring General Flynn after this all said and done, would still be a wise thing. He certainly has a personal vendetta against these criminal elements and he knows where all of the bodies are buried. Not sure to what capacity he should hold a position, but Obama had a TON of “czars” to my recollection…

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  33. tommylotto says:

    Flynn was set-up by the deep state and used as a pre-text to spy on the Trump campaign. However, we should remind ourselves that Flynn is not entirely without culpability here. He obviously tried to monetize his position on the Trump campaign before the election with Turkey. Was Trump aware of Flynn’s relationship with the Turks? If not, Trump would view those actions as a serious betrayal. Then, of course, he lied to the VP, making the entire administration look bad right out of the box. His reckless behavior, behind Trump’s back, gave the deep state its pretext it was looking for. Then, of course, he confessed to the crime. Anyway, Flynn made his bed. If I were Trump, I would let the criminal case play out, wait for sentencing, then pardon the General if there is any jail time.

    As far as declassification is concerned, I want it all declassified too. I hate that we have to speculate about what is under those redactions. However, we have been told that Durham’s “report” is the one to wait for. We have all waited this long. I think I’ll just hold onto my outrage for a few more months. Maybe there is still a reason for continued classification of certain documents pending Durham’s “report.” We are just speculating either way. That being said, Barr and Durham are quickly running out of rope. When the Durham “report” drops in whatever form, it better be accompanied with the declassification we are looking for. Otherwise, there will be no further justification to deny that there is a cover-up.

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    • Don McAro says:

      I don’t think we can wait for Durham Any longer, Do you anyone on her have faith in the Senate clearing the President? Stranger things have happened….

      remember…. Senators don’t have to vote… if they are a no show… it brings the tally down towards the Democrats goal….

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  34. Perot Conservative says:

    There are subterranean cultural issues that underlay every one of these battles and make them even more complex.

    Sullivan wouldn’t throw Obama, Rice, Holder or Lynch under the bus.

    Horowitz won’t throw Rosenstein, Weismann, or any other various players under the bus … or visa versa from Jeffrey Rosen, etc. Then you add in spouses … whether its from church, synagogue, seder, purum, country club or private pre school … its partly religious but mainly cultural, political, & strategic. You don’t escape Auschwitz to shank your brother in the back. Same for the Chinese. I believe the old fashioned term in clannish.

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  35. KingMoonRacer says:

    Scathing.

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  36. Nessie509 says:

    General Flynn entered a guilty plea. Case closed. Judge Sullivan doesn’t have the power to disregard that plea.
    Perhaps A G Barr is likely concerned about Spoliation of this Evidence rendering the evidence useless for criminal indictments and trial?

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  37. Frbrdskmi says:

    Perhaps I’m wrong, but I believe maybe our VSGDTJ wants US to fix this. At best he can only have one more term. What then? He has shown us the deceit, corruption and greed that consumes our government, the seats taxpayers provide for those who are supposed to represent us are just a charade,…..at this point I have no confidence nor do I trust a single one of them. At my age I’m just praying for my children and grandchildren because they are the ones who will be most affected. I do know this, as old as my hiney is, if there is a call to civil war, I WILL BE THERE! God Bless President Trump and God Bless America!

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    • Somebody's Gramma says:

      Amen.

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    • Mark Smith says:

      It’s way too early to be talking about armed protest. That may eventually come, but only if the President is removed from office, a very unlikely event. We definitely do not want Civil War II unless it is absolutely necessary, as things can spiral out of control rapidly and it can become a very bloody event very quickly. In the big picture, Flynn is unfortunately a sideshow, but the worst that can happen is he’s pardoned after the election. If that happens, a victorious and revengeful Trump could rehire him to really clean house, and his connections with the military will be quite valuable. We are dependent upon Barr to be one of us, because if he’s not, then, in my opinion, all is lost anyway. Barr needs to save all his ammunition to work with Durham and take down a dozen seditionists, which will save the republic and increase confidence in the FBI and DOJ, Barr’s primary goal. All Barr’s comments since the Horowitz report have been encouraging.
      I’m not so sure that Trump cannot release declassified documents during his trial. In fact I think he should do so strategically. Is the Senate going to impeach him again for obstructing his own impeachment if declassification produces hard evidence for his innocence and guilt for his detractors? McConnell has already stated publicly that President Trump will not be removed from office. If Trump is removed, McConnell has absolutely no hope of being re-elected to the Senate. No excuse will be adequate. So presume that Trump will still be in office after the Senate trial, and that the trial will be used to bring more evidence to light to support Patriots and make Democrats even weaker than they already are now.

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  38. magatrump says:

    I think even if Barr declassified Flynn’s information , Sullivan would still have ruled the same.
    Sullivan is a deep state Obama Dem judge corrupt POS. Sullivan was never ever ruling in Flynn’s favor.

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  39. Jennifer Verner says:

    The LAW is dead. I want to know which of the Lawfare lawyers wrote this opinion for Sullivan. What, you think he did it on his own? Guess again. He want’s to be on Barak and Michelle’s Christmas card list. We should have known when he berated Flynn before.

    And his treatment of Sidney is appalling .

    If Barr doesn’t step in and out a stop to this he is a joke. The fact that he hasn’t already is beyond disturbing.

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  40. kleen says:

    Not one indictment yet.

    Not one swamp terrorist went to jail.

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  41. Bogeyfree says:

    Mr. President I believe you have been had.

    Or as I like to call it SNOOKERED again.

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  42. Scarlet says:

    This makes me physically sick.

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  43. ed bernay says:

    Questions for the lawyers…if Barr declassifies such damning info that could be used as evidence in a trial against the coup plotters, I assume that it would be all over the media and everyone in the world would know about it. Could the defense lawyers for the coup plotters and MSM argue that Barr was trying to bias a potential jury pool? Is it possible to mitigate this, he is not releasing anything until after a trial?

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    • Justin Green says:

      Disclaimer – not a lawyer.

      However, my answer would be yes. Defense attorneys can and will try anything they can to get their client off.

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  44. LEET says:

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    • Justin Green says:

      How can that possibly be legal?

      Take an extreme hypothetical – the DOJ and FBI charge you with a crime you did not commit – in Flynn’s case, arguably, there was no intent to misspeak. Then, they kidnap your family and strap TNT to them at an undisclosed location and tell you that if you don’t plead guilty and admit under oath you’re guilty, they will blow up your family.

      The judge says, instead of looking into the charge of duress, states, “Well, you plead guilty, and you made statements in court admitting guilt, so we’re not going to listen to your claim that you made any of those statements or the plea under duress.”

      That’s asinine. What am I missing?

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  45. bulwarker says:

    Trump is a smart man. At the end of year three, to think that all this is occurring without his knowledge and consent is foolish. It’s time we consider that the president doesn’t actually want to declassify, that he’s been told the damage that would occur to the institutions if he did, and he is in agreement. Him delegating authority to Barr, and lawfare predictably tying his hands against release seems like a convent “out” regarding responsibility. It allows Trump to rail against the system with simultaneously protecting it. It’s been 3 years. There have been numerous opportunities, and none were taken. It’s fair to say we are approaching the final stretch, and placing our collective hopes on Durham (man, we’ve been here before…), while the man in charge refuses to hold anyone accountable via simple declassification.

    Sundance wrote: In AG Barr’s modern interpretation: “it is better that one innocent man suffer than have guilty institutions be discovered.” I think Trump would add, “and the criminals they put away with corrupt practices be released back into the population.” Because you can bet your rear if the DOJ/FBI used these tactics on a presidential candidate, they certainly would result to them to take down the accused child trafficker or murderer.

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  46. rayvandune says:

    “A judge might be sympathetic to a person proclaiming his innocence. He’s not likely to be sympathetic to a defendant who states that he’s guilty, but that the process was corrupt.”

    Don’t you people realize there’s a right way and a wrong way to react when you are railroaded like in a banana republic? You folks just arent measuring up to the standards of the Deep State!

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  47. I never trusted Bill Barr from the beginning. He had been too chummy with the *wrong* people, earlier in his career.

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  48. H. Hawke says:

    Don’t know why anyone is surprised by Sullivan’s decision.

    He’s a swamp fothermucker who presided over the Ted Stevens trial in a clearly biased manner, allowing Demonicrats under Barry to flip Stevens Alaska seat and get a 60-member filibuster-proof senate.

    The oh-never-mind came months after Stevens’ defeat.

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  49. Carrie says:

    This is rather incredible- definitely the work of some Lawfare type! Of course, it’s an easy piece of paper to hand to AG Barr to show exactly why there needs to be declassification of the Brady material.

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  50. hawkins6 says:

    A few things seems certain in this massive complex cesspool of FBI and DOJ corruption:
    –1. All of the corrupt plotters and other malicious anti Trump actors have not been purged from either gov’t entity or adequately punished unlike some of their railroaded and framed targets and:
    –2. No American citizen should ever trust any FBI or DOJ official at any time. They should be feared as if they are employed by a dangerous foreign gov’t because this plot or Coup has proven that some of these dirty cops and fancy dressed lawyers will turn on any American from a fledgling unpaid campaign aide to a POTUS and try to destroy them if it suits a political or other biased and corrupt purpose. The corrupt media will then utilize its influence to protect them and defame and further destroy you if required.

    It’s unfortunate that some honest, dedicated officials in both departments will be distrusted but is due to their leadership’s continued reluctance to fully admit culpability and to purge all of those that planned, ordered, participated or knew about the “errors and omissions”-aka egregious abuses of power including the process crime frame ups of Gen. Flynn, Papadopolous and other nefarious FBI and DOJ Coup “activities.”

    Meanwhile as Steve Hilton accurately stated: “Look at that face. (Wray). Sullen, surly, defensive. That is not the face of a fired up reformer. That is the face of a tired, complacent insider. There is no hope of restoring confidence in the FBI with the attitude the Director displays.”
    Others make eloquent speeches but continue to hide the facts and truth from the public. Disgraced Comey was stil claiming there were other more relevant pieces of evidence to justify the corrupt FISA warrants beyond the Dossier. Like copies of bogus, planted MSM news articles claiming Trump collusion and other cons.

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