Andrew McCabe and James Comey Deny “Nuanced Specifics” of Claims by Patrick Byrne – But Do Not Deny Substance of Allegations……

Former FBI Director James Comey (aka participant “Z”) and former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe (likely participant “Y”) deliver responses to CNN about claims made by Overstock founder and former CEO Patrick Byrne.

Mr. Byrne claims he was recruited by FBI agents to conduct a counterintelligence operation and cultivate a relationship Russian national Maria Butina. [Full Backstory]

Mr. Byrne further alleged that top officials in the Obama administration, including James Comey, Andrew McCabe, Bill Priestap and John Carlin were involved in various aspects of the overall operation; which included FBI requests to Byrne which were carried by FBI Special Agent Peter Strzok to lower level FBI agents.

According to the responses presented by CNN, James Comey and Andrew McCabe deny ever participating in instructions to Mr. Byrne to engage in a “romantic” relationship with Maria Butina:

(Via CNN) […] Reached Thursday evening by CNN, Comey called Byrne’s claim “ridiculous.” “The FBI doesn’t work that way,” Comey said.

Former FBI deputy director and CNN contributor Andrew McCabe said he hadn’t heard of Byrne until the former CEO revealed his relationship with Butina.

“His allegation that his potential cooperation with the FBI was somehow discussed at the highest levels certainly never happened when I was there,” McCabe, who held the No. 2 role at the agency beginning in 2016 until his firing in 2018, said Friday on CNN’s “New Day.”

McCabe said it was “certainly possible” that Byrne volunteered information about Butina to the FBI, but disputed the claim that agents would have told Byrne to “engage in a romantic relationship with a suspected Russian intelligence agent.”

“That is simply not the sort of thing that the FBI does,” McCabe said.

A US official told CNN on Thursday that Byrne met earlier this year with Justice Department officials and shared with them similar information about a romantic relationship with Butina encouraged by the FBI.

The US official said that the Justice Department officials Byrne met with found aspects of Byrne’s story to be believable in part because he shared operational details that were not widely known. (read more)

It is worth noting that both Comey and McCabe are only refuting their knowledge of any instruction to cultivate a “romantic relationship.” Neither McCabe nor Comey are actually denying the FBI counterintelligence operation using Byrne to manipulate Maria Butina.

As we noted in the review of Byrne’s allegations: the described FBI contact structure highlighted an arms-length operation; perhaps intentionally constructed to create plausible deniability for those above the directly instructing agents.

It would appear the carefully framed denials by Andrew McCabe and James Comey are structured to be as disingenuous as possible; thereby allowing room for confirmations to come out later, and still retaining their plausible deniability on specifics.

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254 Responses to Andrew McCabe and James Comey Deny “Nuanced Specifics” of Claims by Patrick Byrne – But Do Not Deny Substance of Allegations……

  1. simon says says:

    Why are comments by Comey and McCabe taken as truth anymore? Everyone reading these posts have seen what the evidence looks like. Running out the clock.

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  2. islandpalmtrees says:

    Byrne’s story does not pass the smell test!

    Gateway writes:
    “But to suggest that Hillary Clinton in any way was a target of the Deep State is preposterous. This simply does not register with any actions taken by the Deep State to date.”

    To believe that Barr would not put such a witness under protective custody, is suspicious to say the least.

    Gateway goes on to write:
    “Byrne sat on this for several months, but then he names HRC twice as a “victim” of this espionage, alongside Trump, Rubio, and Cruz.”

    “Is Byrne trying to help Clinton by listing her as a “victim” when really, she’s a perpetrator? Or is he just flat-out wrong on this point, not knowing any better?”

    Add to this, that the NSA likely has copies of all documentation needed to validate Byrne story. And, Barr with his new found declassification privileges could have validated this new “Deep State” story.

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    • Kokanee says:

      Funny, Gateway keeps taking down my comments. I would read too much into Byrne naming Clinton. It could be they were getting information on her in case they needed it later. This was Obama’s DOJ and he was getting dirt on everybody. Other sites keep talking about Byrne resigning because of his relationship with the Russian. I think he resigned because of the SEC investigation against Overstock that the were using as leverage. He resigned to get rid of the leverage.

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      • Kokanee says:

        I meant I wouldn’t read too much into Byrne naming Clinton.

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      • Rachel Guess says:

        Kokanee,

        My understanding from what I have heard is that Butina was under orders from Russia to get close to the campaigns of hrc, President Trump, Cruz and rubio, probably because they were considered the serious contenders in 2016. That list would have been shortened after Trump received the nomination to just hrc and Trump.

        To my understanding, the FBI only instructed Byrne to get close to Butina and promote her contacts with Trump affiliated individuals, not hrc. They had no interest in getting information on hrc, but wanted to use her contacts with President Trump’s team to use as part of of the frame job for their ‘insurance policy’.

        I don’t seen any reason that Byrne would have to lie about this, and obviously there is a lot more information that has been turned over to AG Barr and the DoJ. I assume it will all be coming out over the next few weeks.

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        • Laure says:

          Agree…he has everything to lose and nothing to gain by going public…I suspect that Byrne is doing these interviews because he is 1) afraid he may be suicided, 2) tired of waiting for the transparency that may never come and 3) the media is not reporting the truth to the American people…he said he was bribed with $1 billion to go away (DOJ investigating) and he also said he was told 9 months ago that all of the DC establishment will be gunning for him, hence why he was planning his exit from Overstock…

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      • chipin8511 says:

        Strozyk wife is head of SEC enforcement fact…..

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    • Totally Domestic says:

      I have noticed a moral equivalency pattern in all of the new narratives lately.
      1. BC- I haven’t been around Jeffry Epstein in 15 yrs. (same as Trump)
      2. Reports stress that Epstein was a friend of Trump & Bill Clinton (no mention of Hillary)
      Always playing up Trump.
      3. Deep state operatives spied on Trump & Hillary Clinton.
      I call BS Because her corruption is known to all. She is so laden with corruption that she is such low hanging fruit, all they have to do is reach out and pick her! But they refuse & actively cover for her.

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    • Chewbarkah says:

      I was similarly suspicious of the Clinton aspect until I saw the Chris Cuomo interview. Cuomo was crazed with lust to hear how his queen had been a victim. Then Byrne says that Maria Butina met with Hillary’s people for only one hour and had no further interest — because Butina was more of a libertarian and therefore interested in the Republicans. At that point it struck me that maybe Byrne led off with Hillary’s name to get coverage from media that would have buried a story about Strzok setting up only the Trump campaign. I could be wrong, but I’m beginning to suspect Byrne is more method than madness.

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    • farrier105 says:

      The FBI is a completely vertical, top-down organization. All paperwork is addressed to the Director of the FBI, with all other recipients from the Special Agent in Charge of the Field Office, to the case agent’s Squad Supervisor going below the Director. Sundance described it pretty well. The entire chain in an investigation, or, in this case, a COUNTERINTELLIGENCE OPERATION, is kept apprised of the progress with the flow of the paperwork, which always goes UP from the agent in direct contact with a deployed operative like Patrick Byrne.

      Everyone in the vertical chain knows what is going on. The one on the bottom knows least.

      Byrne had a Case Agent. It looks as if he was originally deployed in the criminal investigative section as he worked a murder (which is usually a State crime) with the FBI, and also a white collar crime. Byrne probably had three case agents at different times if he was an unpaid, use-once, operative. Byrne had a reactive agent using him in the murder. A white collar agent working with him in the Wall Street matter, and a Counterintelligence agent directing him in the Marina Butina case. In each case, Byrne voluntarily went to the FBI to help. It was his idea to establish the relationship, so it is unknown if he was a paid informant or operative of some kind. His entire history with the FBI is recorded in the File Back-and-Cover of each case in which Byrne was involved.

      As a Counterintelligence operative. Byrne moved Butina the way his case agent directed, he wasn’t just providing inside information. He was operating Butina like a puppet for want of a better description. Butina was an unknowing tool of an FBI auxiliary. (Note–There WILL be issues of “Sources and Methods” in this that will be legitimate.).

      There is lots of paperwork documenting Byrne’s activities. Each meeting with his case agent resulted in either an FD-302 or an Investigative Insert. As copies of those documents went up the chain, covering Memorandums, Letters, or Airtels (?) went along with them. There were likely Byrne’s expense reports, or paychecks if he was a paid operative. These are the products of an information factory. It is still locked away in the FBI’s archives, along with the DOJ’s National Security Section, and maybe higher.

      Comey, McCabe, and Strzok had access to information about everything Byrne did, and sent directions DOWN to, inevitably, Byrne’s case agent.

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      • farrier105 says:

        Why, exactly, did Patrick Byrne have a SECURITY CLEARANCE? This would be important in his contact with the FBI? From the transcript of his FOX interview with Martha MacCallum:

        In 2015, 2016, they got back in touch with me, the third time, and it was — I was given some fishy orders. And I carried them out thinking — in 2015-2016, thinking I was conducting law enforcement. Let me emphasize, don’t say the FBI. The FBI is barely involved in this. It’s all at the top.

        So, the FBI got in touch with Byrne for the Counterintelligence operation, unlike the murder and the Wall Street case.

        BYRNE: There was — well, some of it involved this young lady Maria Butina who came here — so, I’ve — so, some of it involved her.

        MACCALLUM: OK.

        BYRNE: Some of it involved setting up Hillary Clinton for what looked like — and — looked like law enforcement, it was actually setting her up to be blackmailed. I had helped them set up Hillary Clinton to be blackmailed.

        MACCALLUM: What was the nature of the blackmail?

        BYRNE: I can’t go into it. And so I’ve already — I’m sure there’s a bunch of people in Washington who are going to rip me apart, and I have actually been warned. I was warned last October from a friendly person — Patrick, if you come forward, this entire town of Washington is going to destroy you. It’s going to turn you into dust.

        The important thing about the above exchange is that the “Hillary blackmail” operation did NOT involve Maria Butina. Byrne suggested that to Chris Cuomo, when Byrne told Cuomo Butina only talked to Clinton’s people for “one hour,” but in the MacCallum interview, Byrne clearly differentiates between the use of Butina with the Republicans, and what Byrne was allegedly doing with Hillary Clinton.

        And here is the nature of Byrne’s security clearance and where it originated:

        I was trying to enter her (Butina) in to some senior foreign policy thinkers, because of some things I used to do involving law enforcement and taking down Wall Street, I used to have very low, low level security clearance.

        I don’t know how volunteering information in criminal investigations would have qualified Byrne for a “security clearance.” The murder would not involve national security information, but the Wall Street thing might have, since the kind of short sales he described to the FBI could be used by a foreign country against our economy. Of the two, MAYBE he got a clearance, but the information was his at the beginning. Byrne might be referring to a case agent telling him to keep his mouth shut with having a clearance, but no one needs one to provide information about a criminal matter. This clears up a couple of matters.

        Advice–Go to the MacCallum transcript and READ what Byrne says to roll it around for some time before arriving at conclusions. Byrne speaks in word salads that need to be resorted and sifted by cross referencing his different remarks as in the verbatim exchange between Byrne and MacCallum reproduced above. Only by looking back through those paragraphs could the reader discern that the “blackmail” of Clinton had nothing to do with Maria Butina.

        Here’s another “word salad” about his “security clearance.” Byrne talks about his “clearance authority”:

        I reported that and sent that (Butina’s first contact with Byrne) to my clearance authority, and which she’s kind of — you know, I talk to them once every three years if something like that happen.

        At this point, I don’t know if the “she’s kind of–you know” referencing an individual in charge of Byrne’s “security clearance” (the “security authority”) or if he is referencing Butina. The FBI would be his institutional “clearance authority.” Apparently, he talks to the FBI about his “security clearance” every three years. This is interesting. There is more than one way to interpret this.

        BYRNE: But I was trying to enter (ph) her in and maybe something peaceful could happen. But I had sort of a third — maybe two-thirds I was positive, one-third this is quite a risk and especially over those — from July of 2015 to March of 2016 as I — she — she clearly was swanking around more and more in big shot Republican circles, including — including people like Don Jr.

        How did everyone miss this? Donald Trump, Jr. and Butina?

        BYRNE: I was telling her that the men in black had all of those meetings before she had them, they knew about her the day she landed. They knew about every one of these meetings. They knew that at one point, she was going off to have a meeting with Don Jr.

        Byrne was telling Butina about the FBI operation sometime during their “relationship.” This must have happened before her arrest and incarceration, and while the FBI operation was still in motion. Interesting.

        Go here to get more from the transcript. Byrne is all over the place, so this is the best way to try to nail down his testimony. MacCallum missed some follow-up. A real-time, running transcript, or a director using an earpiece to communicate with the interviewer, is a solution to following up on the openings Byrne slips into his word salads. Just an idea for the media to think about using next time.

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        • farrier105 says:

          HOLD ON–Is Byrne a “Special Employee” of the FBI, like Comey’s “friend?”

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        • farrier105 says:

          Shame on me for not getting this earlier, but I hadn’t had breakfast yet and it wasn’t low cholesterol this time.

          If Byrne is claiming the FBI used him to TRY to get blackmail on Hillary, that claim lacks credibility for one big reason: The Mid-Year Exam case, Hillary’s illegal private State Department email system. After that thing, the FBI did not need to use Byrne, or anyone else, “to get blackmail on Hillary Clinton.” I am sure there were other instances when blackmail information about Hillary was obtained by the FBI. Hell, if they don’t have a freaking LIBRARY of it, they are total incompetents.

          Not buying that story. Sorry I didn’t get to this sooner as I was too busy trying to pull apart his word salads.

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        • chipin8511 says:

          He was a member of CFR you need a security clearance.

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          • farrier105 says:

            I couldn’t find reference for the need of a security clearance to be a member of CFR. Permanent resident aliens, who intend to become citizens, can join. I wonder if the Open Borders crowd knows about that.

            https://www.cfr.org/membership/individual-membership

            Membership

            CFR seeks quality, diversity, and balance in its membership. Criteria for membership include intellectual achievement and expertise; degree of experience, interest, and current involvement in international affairs; promise of future achievement and service in foreign relations; potential contributions to CFR’s work; desire and ability to participate in CFR activities; and standing among peers. New CFR members are elected twice a year by the Board of Directors.
            Eligibility Requirements

            Membership is restricted to U.S. citizens (native born or naturalized) and permanent residents who have applied to become citizens. Permanent residents must email a statement to applications@cfr.org indicating their current citizenship and the date of their formal application for U.S. citizenship.
            CFR visiting fellows are prohibited from applying for membership until they have completed their fellowship tenure.
            CFR members are required to fulfill annual dues requirements.

            To Apply

            Candidates must submit an online application, complete with a nomination from a current CFR member and seconding letters from three to four other individuals. The online application consists of three parts:

            contact information
            CV
            nominator and seconder information

            Request an online application using the form below.
            Annual Deadlines and Notification

            The two annual membership application deadlines are March 1 and November 1. All membership candidates and their letter writers will receive notification of the election decisions in late June for the March 1 deadline, and in mid-March for the November 1 deadline.
            Stephen M. Kellen Term Membership

            The Stephen M. Kellen Term Member Program, established to cultivate the next generation of foreign policy leaders, encourages promising young women and men from diverse backgrounds to engage in a sustained conversation on international affairs and U.S. foreign policy. Each year, a new class of term members between the ages of thirty and thirty-six is elected for a fixed five-year membership term.
            Eligibility Requirements

            Term membership is restricted to U.S. citizens (native born or naturalized) and permanent residents who have applied to become citizens. Permanent residents must email a statement to applications@cfr.org indicating their current citizenship and the date of their formal application for U.S. citizenship.
            Candidates for term membership must be between the ages of thirty and thirty-six on January 1 of the year in which they apply.
            CFR visiting fellows are prohibited from applying for membership until they have completed their fellowship tenure.
            Graduate students should generally wait until after the completion of their degree to apply for membership.
            CFR members are required to fulfill annual dues requirements.

            To Apply

            Term membership candidates must submit an online application, complete with a nomination from a current CFR member and seconding letters from two to three other individuals. The online application consists of three parts:

            contact information
            CV
            nominator and seconder information

            Request an online application using the form below.
            Annual Deadline and Notification

            The annual application deadline for term membership is January 3. All term membership candidates and their letter writers will receive notification of the election decisions in late June.

            Anyway, that is the CFR’s Web site describing the requirements for membership. As to the review Bryne underwent every three years by his “classification authority” (FBI), this indicates that he was on the FBI’s rolls as an informant, but might not be paid a regular salary of stipend unless he is working a case. Since he only involved himself in two cases, and one ILLEGAL CIA DOMESTIC COVERT OPERATION, the one we are attempting to dissect, they reviewed him every three years to determine if he was to remain on their records as a person the FBI could use in the future. The CIA could not have run the illegal domestic covert political operation without the FBI being along for what has been a very bumpy ride for the Bureau’s reputation.

            Maria Bartiromo had Carter Page on “Sunday Morning Futures” yesterday and brought up Page’s “career as a government informant.” “Career?” Actually, it can be a career, like the Chinese triple agent, who was paid over one million dollars by the FBI over a decade or more, only to find out their “double agent” was still working for China while seducing two of her FBI handlers. So, it is possible to make a career of being an informant, provided the informant can find a way to keep “working.”

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  3. “It would appear the carefully framed denials by Andrew McCabe and James Comey are structured to be as disingenuous as possible; thereby allowing room for confirmations to come out later, and still retaining their plausible deniability on specifics.”

    I’ve been watching for the parameters of Barr’s measured and patrician ring fence to emerge. Byrne sheds light here. The Clintons themselves are off-limits because the Bush dynasty (the career nucleus of Barr-world) must be off-limits and they are two sides of the same coin. One takes the other down. Thus neither can go down.

    At the same time, there is an overriding need (going to the heart of governance and legitimacy) to restore faith in the system. The PTB know they can’t get away with a standard whitewash. There must be blood. This becomes all the more critical in the wake of the Epstein death which caused a significant number of previously nonaligned Americans to head for the alt/conspiracy camps. Barr has to truly regret this embarrassing episode as it further complicates his mission of restoring legitimacy and getting back to business.

    Some lieutenants’ heads will roll: Comey, McCabe, Strzok. Their indictments and pleas will be premised on preventing criminality from ‘leaking up’ into the Executive suites. Call it a nondisclosure agreement or shut-up clause. The scandal will be contained.

    Anyone expecting the System to burn itself to the ground is naive. Only the People can strike the match for that in the manner of populist insurrection and civil war. Instead the System will attempt to inflict a convincing hand slap upon itself.

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    • iconoclast says:

      These people are very good at lying. Hillary is the master, and Comey and McCabe learned at her feet. With a complicit media, getting to the truth takes time and effort.

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    • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

      Some lieutenants’ heads will roll: Comey, McCabe, Strzok

      By “head-rolling” you mean
      Deals pleading guilty to being “a tad bit overzealous in protecting democracy” followed by 90 days in prison sleep-over camp.

      It’s hard to find a flaw in your prediction.

      Now please excuse me while I go vomit…
      ….and find my matches.

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  4. flyboy46 says:

    If he’s been talking to Durham/Barr, take a deep breath and calm down. Rome wasn’t built in a day, and this plot will take a long time to play out, probably at least a year. Remember, “he who laughs last, laughs best.

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  5. Finbar O'Shaunnessey says:

    “That is simply not the sort of thing that the FBI does,” McCabe said.

    Will someone tell me just exactly what it is that the FBI does these days? Cuz … I dunno. I knew what they did when James Stewart and Murray Hamilton were agents.

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  6. OldParatrooper says:

    During the Clinton presidency we learned how to parse official statements very closely, and to listen for what wasn’t said as well.

    Remember the Brit GCHQ “denial” that they were monitoring the Trump Campaign for the Obama Administration? “They (allegations) are utterly ridiculous and should be ignored.” Not: “we didn’t do it” or “we totally deny any participation by British Intelligence in the monitoring of the Trump Campaign.”

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  7. mark says:

    Epsteins death was a yuge blow for truth. Left or right, Democrats, Republicans, Independents all have daughters and sons and would never want those daughters and sons to be sexually abused or exploited. If the truth ever comes out as to who was at rape island and what they were doing it just might wake this Nation up and bring it back together. IMO, that’s a crime no one can defend and all parents would be abhorred by. Where’s the Wiener laptop? And who’s got the evidence from the Epstein residences?

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  8. Rynn69 says:

    Yeah, Mr. Comey and Mr. McCabe. The American people are quite clear about “the way you work.”

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  9. JoAnn Leichliter says:

    “The FBI doesn’t work that way.” This is standup comedy, right?

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  10. JoAnn Leichliter says:

    “The FBI doesn’t work that way.” This is standup comedy, right?

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