Jim Jordan, Doug Collins and Mark Meadows Take Action to Expose Ongoing DOJ Institutional Fraud…

House Judiciary Committee, ranking member Doug Collins, together with Jim Jordan (ranking member Oversight), and Representative Mark Meadows, begin questioning U.S. Attorney John Huber in their effort to expose the biggest current DOJ con job.

In a letter to U.S. Attorney John Huber (full pdf below), Collins, Jordan and Meadows begin the formal process to expose a widely believed fraud.

A misinformation campaign has been waged to give the appearance of an investigation that does not exist.  There is ZERO factual evidence of any investigative action underway by U.S. Attorney Huber, beyond speculation and supposition.

Here is the full letter:


Last month investigative journalist Paul Sperry posted an interesting report at RCP-Investigations outlining numerous interviews with DC politicians and would-be witnesses, if any actual DOJ investigation of the FBI and DOJ misconduct was taking place.

What Sperry discovered is the year-long narrative around John Huber and Michael Horowitz is factually false. [SEE HERE]

Just like the false framework surrounding the long-forgotten U.S. Attorney John Lausch; the guy who was supposedly hired to facilitate DOJ record production but actually did nothing of the sort; Sperry discovered the framework around U.S. Attorney John Huber was manufactured by career officials inside the DOJ to tamp down problematic demands for a second special counsel.

Worse still, and absolutely confirming information from our own contacts within the OIG, Paul Sperry outlines how Michael Horowitz has not interviewed key people who would be part of any authentic FISA abuse inquiry.  [READ HERE]

Unfortunately, this information is directly in-line with information received by CTH in September of 2018.  According to people with knowledge of DOJ-OIG operations, and restrictions upon the IG imposed by chain-of-command authority, Horowitz’s investigation has been limited by Mueller’s team.

According to our own independent sourcing, as a direct consequence of the Sessions recusal issues, DAG Rosenstein was in charge of approving all OIG investigative document production and DOJ/FBI scheduling for testimony.  Mueller’s team gave Rosenstein a list of restrictive lines of inquiry that would be considered obstructing their own investigation and should thereby be considered ‘out-of-bounds‘ for OIG review; those instructions broadly created limits on what Horowitz could see, and who Horowitz could interview.

According to a person directly involved, an internal investigative complaint was filed to the AG; however, due to recusal issues that complaint was forwarded (by Sessions) to FBI chief-legal-counsel Dana Boente.

General Counsel Boente, hired by Christopher Wray, ultimately concurred with Mueller and Rosenstein’s decision thereby blocking any internal investigative efforts under the auspices of protecting the integrity of the ongoing Mueller probe.

A bureaucratic catch-22.

As a result of team Mueller’s moves, multiple people including John Carlin, Mary McCord, Bruce Ohr, Nellie Ohr, Carter Page and any other inside official with knowledge of the FISA application and downstream issue, is off-limits for DOJ-OIG questioning.

This decision was stunningly ironic considering that Dana Boente was the ultimate arbiter inside the internal debate.  Remember, Boente was “acting AG” after Sally Yates was fired.

See the BS construct?

Sometime just after President Trump agreed to back-down from his declassification request (9/21/18), under threat from Rosenstein over obstruction, around early October it was reported to us that INSD (FBI inspection division) was planning to wait-out the Mueller probe and continue the OIG investigation once the Mueller report was filed.

However, after the election it became obvious the small group, who make up -and control- Mueller’s team, were going to expand their inquiry; and it was unlikely the probe would end.  The result of this bureaucratic mess and tug-of-war is that Horowitz cannot see the information DAG Rosenstein promised President Trump he would review.

CTH is told this outcome is entirely by design.   DAG Rod Rosenstein knew that Horowitz was being blocked by Mueller at the same time Rosenstein promised President Trump the inspector general would review the FISA issues.   The internal complaint passed to Boente had already taken place prior to September 21st when Trump met with Rosenstein.

In essence, DAG Rosenstein was lying to Trump about allowing Horowitz to review the information behind the declassification….. well, sort of lying…

You see, here’s where Mueller and Rosenstein are Machievellian.   IG Horowitz will be allowed to see the material, but only *after* the Mueller team is finished with their probe.  So technically Rosenstein wasn’t lying to the President – he just wasn’t being entirely forthcoming with the timing.  So long as the Mueller probe exists, the IG is blocked from review.

Read again slowly:

So long as the Mueller probe exists, Inspector General Michael Horowitz is blocked from reviewing anything Team Mueller takes under their review.

The OIG has now been reviewing FBI and DOJ issues in/around FISA aspects for over a year; yet the DOJ-OIG and internal inspection division unit (INSD) has been blocked, by the Mueller probe, from reviewing the most critical information needed.

Here’s where it gets interesting…. Remember, as you saw in December from FBI Deputy Director David Bowditch, the ODNI (Coats), AG (Whitaker/Barr), DAG (Rosenstein), FBI Director (Wray) and Deputy FBI Director (Bowditch), along with Robert Mueller and/or any leadership member of his team (Weissmann), can block or deny any declassification request.  However, they need an excuse to do so; Mueller is that excuse.

None of these DOJ/FBI officials have any intention of declassifying anything while the Mueller probe exists.  Mueller’s team holds all the power; arguably, by design.

Now, just pause and take this back to the beginning again, and be intellectually honest with your review.  If the Mueller probe can block any/all investigative inquiry related to any matter they put under their massive review…. then, even if you believe Huber is doing an investigation of something (he’s not)…. what the heck could Huber investigate if access to the evidence is controlled by team Mueller?

Think about it logically.

But wait, it gets worse…

If DOJ Inspector General Horowitz were to write an incomplete report, obviously it would not be of value; but if he did, and it cited his inability to review certain information – and/or conduct certain interviews – that draft report (during the notification to principles phase) still has to pass through DOJ channels who have the ultimately authority to remove any language concerning to their interests, and transfer it into a classified appendix which no-one can legally discuss. Thus, the Inspector General is not an autonomous official; Horowitz doesn’t work without bosses.

With Paul Sperry’s reporting as additional support, CTH continues to outline the true motives and intents of Special Prosecutor Robert Mueller and his team:

♦(1) Create an investigation – Just by creating the investigation it is then used as a shield by any corrupt FBI/DOJ official who would find himself/herself under downstream congressional investigation.  Former officials being deposed/questioned by IG Horowitz or Congress could then say they are unable to answer those questions due to the ongoing special counsel investigation.  In this way Mueller provides cover for ideologically aligned deep state officials.

♦(2)  Use the investigation to keep any and all inquiry focused away from the corrupt DOJ and FBI activity that took place in 2015, 2016, 2017.  Keep the media narrative looking somewhere, anywhere, other than directly at the epicenter of the issues. In this way, Mueller provides distraction and talking points against the Trump administration.

♦(3) Use the investigation to suck-up, absorb, any damaging investigative material that might surface as a result of tangentially related inquiry.  Example: control the exposure of evidence against classified leak participants like SSCI Director of Security, James Wolfe; and/or block IG Horowitz from seeing material related to the FISA abuse scandal and “spygate”.  In this way Mueller provides cover for the institutions and the administrative state.

In all of these objectives the Mueller special counsel has been stunningly effective.

The efforts of Rosenstein, Wray, Bowditch, Boente et al, to cover-up the institutional corruption extends far beyond their blocking activity of the declassification requests; and shows up in the lack of substance behind the Wolfe plea agreement when compared to the devastating evidence within the original indictment.

There is a clear pattern.  In addition to the disparity of outcome within the Wolfe indictment/plea deal we exhibit: ♦redactions in material evidence provided to congress; ♦refusal to release material to congress; ♦fighting declassification of documents that would be damaging to the previous officials; ♦refusal to discuss events with congress by officials who hide behind the shield of the Mueller investigation; the list is long.

Additionally, the Mueller control agenda also extends into the two previous IG reports submitted by DOJ Inspector Michael Horowitz.

With Robert Mueller in charge of an ongoing investigation, the two previous IG reports (1. Investigation of McCabe and 2. Clinton email/FBI bias) could not outline anything tangentially connected to the Mueller investigation without first passing through his teams approval and review.

That level of Mueller influence kept the most severe elements of investigative sunlight away from public review.

These officials defending the administrative state are still in place.  We know they are in place because their influential conduct is visible. Three of them are inarguable:

(1) By redacting innocuous, albeit highly damaging information, within the Lisa Page and Peter Strzok text messages and emails.  Officials within the agencies are hiding information and even eliminating the most damaging material.  Why did they redact the Page/Strzok text messages in the first place?

(2) By controlling what records IG Horowitz has access to; in addition to who he is interviewing. The IG is only as effective as the material he has to review.  Mueller, through people like Andrew Weissman is the one making all the decision here.

(3) By shaping the executive summaries of the two previous IG reports to ensure the specific material within the report is diluted as much as possible in the summary and conclusions.

In essence, and against the understanding of how these officials manipulated the recusal of AG Jeff Sessions; DAG Rod Rosenstein, FBI Director Christopher Wray, Deputy FBI Director David Bowditch, FBI Chief Legal Counsel Dana Boente, Special Counsel Robert Mueller and the affiliated network of political operatives within the DOJ/FBI; this crew has held free reign to shape everything in the past two years.

That is why there has been ZERO progress.

Everything past to present, has been a complete con-job by the officials within the DOJ and FBI.

This is what Jordan, Meadows and Collins now hope to expose.

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705 Responses to Jim Jordan, Doug Collins and Mark Meadows Take Action to Expose Ongoing DOJ Institutional Fraud…

  1. D3F1ANT says:

    DOJ/FBI/Democrat corruption is already “exposed.” It’s just that nobody will actually DO anything about it.

    Liked by 18 people

    • Zippy says:

      Because the Deep State/Swamp/Uniparty is in control. If a greater fraction of the typically ignorant electorate knew what was going on and the great significance of it their action might be able to change things. But they don’t and never will due to the complexity of the issue and the complicit media. So, Situation Normal, All Fouled Up.

      Liked by 6 people

      • JX says:

        SD has posted a series of explainer videos. At the time I sent links to friends, I’ll see if I can find those links. Or maybe somebody else has them handy.


        • Good Job! says:

          It’s hard to believe anything about these Republican congressmen is competent since on the near death of their control in the house they decide to fight with Comey, who still has his security clearance instead of Brennan who Trump took away clearance. All that was produced was more evidence Comey wasn’t a center of the conspiracy.

          The Mueller investigation is a coverup of the FBI/DOJ illegal spying, conspiring, and reliance on fake private corporation intel paid for by political parties–see Fusion GPS and CrowdStrike. The Huber Hoax was a plan to trick Trump into not appointing a second special counsel. And when long ago the Huber Hoax is exposed what does Trump do? Does not appoint a second special counsel. That’s great “3D Chess” Trump is playing!! //sarcasm

          This negotiating and strategic bumbling ranks up there with Trump’s comical “negotiating” with Pelosi about “The wall”. He threatens Mexico will pay, he threatens the Army will build it, he takes ownership of the “shut down” in front of cameras and the world as his starting position. Nothing about giving Pelosi something or better taking away or threatening pet projects etc There really is no “negotiation” just bumbling blustering. Next he’ll announce Erdogan wanst to fight ISIS real badly!

          I disagree with the failure to release FISA etc. comes from a fear of being charged with “obstruction.” Trump’s nature is never to admit a mistake and more NEVER admit any thing that will reveal his self-proclaimed negotiating super powers (he writes books about) are wrong, served him wrong, or worse, that he was out planned and out negotiated.

          There is nothing to prevent him from appointed a second special counsel now.


          Except that it will tacitly admit he blundered on the quality he most loves in himself.


          • Zorro says:

            Trump knows the depth and scope of the deep state. Even if he wanted to appoint a second SC who could he trust? The deep state would obstruct the second SC in anyway possible.


            • Good Job! says:

              Trump knows little that’s happening around him.

              When the Cohen pleas came out and it was all about the (phoney) campaign contribution violation, which was set up on paper to be a easy to read and comprehend guideline on how to indict Trump on the same charge, and the media was covered by it what did Trump do?? He came out and smiled and said “See no collusion!”

              One of the great bonehead, out of touch Trump moments. He is so arrogant. His non-negotiation negotiation with Pelosi and Schumer over the wall is a complete embarrassment, highlighted by his completely unnecessary and incredibly boneheaded decision to start by taking the blame for a shut down.


              • J-Mac says:

                I disagree.

                Trump knows what he’s doing.

                Trump campaigned on “Draining the Swamp” and that’s exactly what Trump is doing!!

                Look at the Deep Staters Trump has disposed of recently!
                Jeff Sessions
                Jim Mattis
                John Kelly
                Rex Tillerson
                HR McMaster
                Ryan Zinke
                Reince Priebus
                Nikki Haley
                etc. etc.

                Trump got rid of all of these Swamp RATS!!


                • Summer says:

                  Wow, he “disposed of these Swamp RATS.”

                  He hired “these Swamp RATS” in the first place, and was lavishing praise on almost all of them for years while they served in his cabinet. Whatever faults these individuals may have in our eyes, or whatever disagreements on policy and style they may have had with the President, I resent your calling at least some of them “Swamp RATS.” Especially Kelly and Zinke.


              • vladdy says:

                You are good friends with the president? His psych? His confidant? Not sure where all your “Trump is…” is coming from. Odd, the left rarely says “Trump did,” but they daily say (repeatedly) “Trump is…”

                Would you let us in on how you know his personality defects? On all this “self-love” and “never admitting he’s wrong” and —- well, unless you’re either Melania or Ivana…or again, his personal psych (don’t we all have one these days?), not sure where this … I believe your word for it was…”arrogant”?…where this “arrogance” is coming from.

                But you are doing that leftist thing (not the “Trump is,” although that’s a leftist thing too) of stating your opinion in a firm way as if you have inside knowledge and are reciting facts, which you could not be, because personality assessment, even when done professionally, still amounts to opinion…

                So maybe you are none of the above, but just one of those people who cannot tell cause from effect or fact from opinion. There’s a lot of that going around. Be sure to put the “place for rent” sign back up when Trump leaves your head in 2024.


          • Daniel says:

            If Comey is actively accessing classified information using government resources, what makes you think it’s not being tracked?


            This is CNN… can it be trusted as accurate?


          • Vicus says:

            Hello ShareBlue. “Good job” exposing yourself.


      • NME666 says:

        asking some to think is a fools errand


      • Daniel says:

        And if we had a media which would report on this honestly, there would be some form of public reaction. We have a “stack” of problems which are amazingly formidable at the moment.

        I point to two things:

        1. Emergency powers
        2. Present state of war

        The president is expected to invoke a state of emergency to get the wall built. The Democrats (Uniparty) do not want this wall built and they can never be seen supporting it; not even reluctantly “to open the government.” I believe the response to this invocation of emergency powers will serve to predictably measure the various responses to what may come later.

        There was a reason Senator Graham discussed military tribunals with Kavanaugh during those hearings — possibly multiple reasons. We know the DOJ and FBI will never EVER allow the truth to come out while they have the ability to cover it up.

        So I ask, what *IS* the check to balance this sort of thing? Well, I’ll tell you, that check is supposed to be a special prosecutor assigned by the legislative or judiciary. The problem, as we know, is the judiciary and the legislative are also compromised and complicit in this scandal. (Yes, the judiciary… TGP has a story up showing a familial connection between the Mueller team and at least one of the judges they are handling cases through!) So “special prosecutors” aren’t going to happen here either.

        Our country is now ruined? Or are we going to ignore the power the president has to declare an emergency and/or martial law to deal with this mess once and for all? Seems like an “extreme” option and one the people will not likely be able to comprehend — especially since the media will simply declare we’re living under a military dictatorship and call for a UN invasion to restore the government. But what are other “more reasonable” remedies? And it has to be while Trump is still the president because we know once he’s out, we’ll return precisely back to the way things were.

        When are people going to accept that things are far too bad and that only extreme remedies will work here?

        As I mentioned, if Trump does invoke military powers and order the military to take over in order to clean up this mess, there will be a massive uproar around the world — around the world. And the media would be of no help in this either.

        Is the better option to just accept this as pretend everything is just fine?


    • aarmad says:

      I have thought for some time now the Huber and the IG investigations are not there to expose anything. I agree they are just going through the motions of an investigation. The first IG report was just a white wash and proved or disproved nothing. The same applies to Huber and the next IG report. NOTHING

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      • Zorro says:

        As has been pointed out by Sundance the IG has been kept away from damaging evidence/revealing same by the Herr Mueller team.


  2. Zippy says:

    “There is ZERO factual evidence of any investigative action underway by U.S. Attorney Huber, beyond speculation and supposition.”

    Winner, winner, chicken dinner. The cynics prove correct once again. I wish it weren’t so, but there it is.

    Liked by 4 people

  3. Leaving says:

    I want to read options a how they would most likely play out, realistically with knowledge of how the system works, not with fantasy pie in the sky hyperbole.

    It sounds like the deep state has a “lock down” on system that prevents justice for any bad actors no matter who they are.

    Liked by 2 people

  4. cali says:

    I beg to differ greatly about ‘The ZERO’ activities draining the swamp as understood here simply because the EO dated 21 December 2017 where president Trump declared ‘A Threat to National Security” activating our military 470th Intelligence Battalion, Marines, NSA in tandem with Admiral (ret) Mike Rogers and LTG (ret) Mike Flynn.

    This action alone was the beginning of a parallel construct activating the only entity NOT poisoned by the deep state and their actors here and abroad.
    It is exactly this strategy that actively has now investigated each and everyone involved in treasonous activities here and abroad.
    A current FISA applied also beginning on the date of the designation via the EO signed by the president.

    Here is where many of you reject the premise and service our military branch is providing as necessities since all the three-letter-agencies were poisoned and could not be tasked to root our the cancerous tumor from our overall government.

    It was a mistake to discard the info given via back channel. Yet – here we are struggling to see any effort in rooting our crimes committed by the same tools whom still sit at the DC whale like Adam Schiff, Feinstein, Barr, Warner, Pelosi and countless others.

    The military intelligence on the other hand works with Christopher Wray, Whittaker, Huber and Horowitz. Naturally to state all that in the open too early would have given the suiciders an opportunity to hunt down many white hats patriots that are NOT protected by our military here and abroad.

    So please give it a moment to reconcile: The Mueller “Insurance” ACTIVITIES have expired!

    President Trump is publishing the Declassifications the day AFTER Mueller – the traitor – gives his shit report that will include nothing.

    Adam Schiff – trained “AT the Farm” and active CIA agent and a plant at the intelligence committee was tasked all-the-while to leak false and fake intelligence that does not exist but were always destructive to the president and his allies. Schiff’s info on Wikipedia is an interesting one. Schiff is unmasked.

    Huber is investigating FISA, Horowitz has all info needed but not from those who are criminally obstructed but rather info gained from ALL the servers the presidents white hats and our military intelligence have in their possession. To reject the truth that ‘They Have it All’ would be a mistake as well.

    A parallel investigation away from congress and their agents here and abroad was the only approach to truly root out the cancer.

    “It is interesting when power is lost by those once in power what upstream intelligence reveals as the 5Eyes are also slipping up and ratting out the traitors among them to save what is left. This 5Eyes was designed by the CIA,MI6, SIS for these 5 member countries to spy on all of us exchanging info while fake investigations ended in innocent citizens being criminalized via false indictments. These 5 EYES countries were all involved in destroying this country and operated outside out the law of the USA.

    @Sundance this is not to take away anything from your reports because you have always be the stickler for the truth. However I must also be upfront to say that your posts result after careful reviewing what is available without considering the parallel investigation that is undertaken by our military intelligence here and abroad.

    Having said that Mueller will not continue to operate any longer. Schiff will not be able to continue to leak false and fake intelligence insiders know to be fake and false.

    The draining continues – the case is closed and our mili8tary warriors were able to shut down the many dangers planted in cities across this country in case the NWO gang would be exposed. They planned to take us all down with them.

    It is for that reason that much had to remain silent until these dangers removed. These threats were removed.

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    • Leaving says:

      I want to believe you, I really do but we simply have no evidence to what you are saying.

      You may be absolutely right but we can’t work with it unless we have tangible, publicity available evidence. Anonymous sources on the internet that play tricks with data is not evidence.

      Liked by 5 people

      • Leaving- I believe him, THOUSANDS WOULDN’T.


      • cali says:

        @Leaving: I read @Sundance every morning for the simply knowing everything I read, the insight I gain.
        The next thing I do is browsing the military vet owned back channel of the anons and the many articles and facts they research and documents via ‘proofs’ as Q directs where to look. Sundance’s article also appear at time over at the vet board and fondly woven into the proofs they collect.

        What I try to understand and reconcile is the theoretical battle with the physical battle that is taking places.
        The theoretical battle plays out here on Sundance, marketworks, paulsperry and host of others I browse.
        The physical battle I learn about from the anons, preying medic. inthematrixx and host of others.
        It is much easier that way to see and complete a slow puzzle coming together.

        We are not privy enough to get everything from our military channel otherwise the deep state – who logs on by the way hundreds of times to check everything posted by the Q-team – gains too much info. They are cut off from all access to national security info and satellites. Their 5Eyes partners are also cut off as they were all conspiring against Americans and their own citizens as a means not to answer to congress.

        Its easy to see how upstream intelligence on their treasonous existence are now rattling all of them since all their partners and agents have no longer any power.
        This 5Eyes collage of countries existed off the books to any American citizens but known to deep state agents in DC. Think about that now.

        Yes – they now are in need to remain ‘alive’ ergo trying to make deals and more.

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    • aarmad says:

      This sounds good! I see no evidence of it happening. I hope you are right and that we see results SOON!


    • Flynn is not “retired”, Wray brazenly lied when he personally denied all of the political (and criminal) bias in the FBI unearthed by Horowitz, and Mueller DOES continue to operate. Just to name three.

      You are writing as a useful flunky of the Deep State, whether intentionally or not. Don’t expect to get a large following for your attempted extended misdirection, obviously trying to keep up the charade on the traitors’ — and their totally corrupted agencies’ — behalf.

      Liked by 2 people

    • Bryan Alexander says:

      Fiction. There may be a couple of executive orders signed, but the rest of that is pure fiction.

      Liked by 1 person

    • JX says:

      What EO# are you referring to?


      • Vicus says:

        I’m shocked how few know this, where have you been?



    • cali- what the hell are you talking about?? Most of your allegations have already been debunked by Sundance time and time again. I am really sick and tired of rehashed, unvetted conspiracy theories that serve no purpose.

      Liked by 2 people

    • OldParatrooper says:

      Whatever you are smoking is pretty powerful. The 470th Military Intelligence Brigade is the Army’s MI unit focused on Latin America, and has been for decades. During most of my time in the Army, it was based in Panama. Since our withdrawal from Panama, the Headquarters has been in Texas.

      Liked by 1 person

    • tjkeller says:

      Step away from the Q.

      Liked by 1 person

    • mutantbeast says:

      Believe me, I pray you are correct, probllem is we need to see some results, not talk. Traitors such as the Clintons, there minions, Mule turd, Commie Comey, continue to walk as free men, unpunoshed for breaking our laws and creating the atmosphere that hardcore commie ideologues are above the law.


    • Rob says:

      “President Trump is publishing the Declassifications the day AFTER Mueller – the traitor – gives his shit report that will include nothing.”

      The problem is, Mueller may intentionally keep the investigation going until the next democrat or rhino is in office. Even if Trump finally decides to fire him, which is what they want, he will go to court to declare the order void “because of the ongoing investigation against Trump himself.

      Thus, either Trump starts firing swampers and declassifying documents and deals with all the legal challenges that arise, or Mueller is not going anywhere until Trump is gone and no longer a threat.

      Liked by 1 person

    • ME says:

      What makes you think Mueller will voluntarily conclude his investigation a single day before Trump leaves office?

      Liked by 1 person

    • guest4ever says:

      Thank you for stating that much better than I could.


  5. Local Treeper says:

    Thank you for this great article. I see what you did here… used your “sources” to attempt to undercut the Q message and movement. What is most ironic is that you flip the whole narrative around to this suggestion that it IS the Deep State who is outsmarting the Patriots.

    The problem… we have enough proof of Q that your inside information falls flat. For example where did the 70k sealed indictments come from?

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  6. thegoosefish says:

    Based on my discussions with people, the average American working stiff believes there is too much scandal associated with Trump, likely too much to get re-elected. The insurance policy opposition and its media has done a good job on that front. Too bad. If there is a comeback in the making, we will know this evening.

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    • aarmad says:

      I don’t agree with that at all. I think the President will be re-elected regardless of the media and the ‘insurance’ policy. Only time will tell, in the mean time the constant barrage of lies against this President will intensify. The question is will he hold or fold?

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    • Your comment gives me no feeling of assurance (much less objective evidence) that I should trust the honesty or the competence of your “discussions”. The whole idea that the President needs a “comeback” is snake-speak.


      • thegoosefish says:

        Go out and talk to ordinary people, especiAlly younger ones, yourself


        • thegoosefish says:

          That got abbreviated by WordPress. The problem is the insurance policy was designed to make sure he doesnt get re-elected. But nobody butbus knows that. Sad, but true. And Mueller will rock along through the election to make sure.


          • aarmad says:

            The ‘insurance policy was to make sure he wasn’t elected in the first place. mueller will be around as long as there is Trump. The 6 month extension of the grand jury may just as well have been 6 years.

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    • sherrymerlot says:

      I have some evidence from as current as the Christmas holidays. My 28-year-old niece is very cynical. She, too, would qualify as a working stiff, if you want to talk about young voters. She has nothing good to say about President Trump, even though she pulled the lever for him. In no way would she have voted for any Democrat in 2016, though, because she seems to hate them even more.

      I am not going to listen to young people who take a very cynical attitude, which many of them do. They simply repeat stuff they heard in the media, sort of in a knee-jerk way.

      I think you’ll be surprised at what Donald Trump has in his bag o’ tricks to get people to vote for him in 2020. Our President DOES NOT LIKE TO LOSE.

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    • Rob says:

      That’s why Trump needs to take on Mueller now instead of waiting until it’s too late. Worst case scenario is Trump leaving office with Mueller still running the FBI and DOJ.

      Liked by 1 person

    • Daniel says:

      Yeah and based on mine, Democrat voters I know are going to support Trump in 2020 because the economy is working and they are bringing more money home than ever before.


    • vladdy says:

      Sounds like you live urban. I live rural…the average American working stiff believes Trump is a hero saving America from a gang of thieves led by Hillary (they don’t know all the deep state stuff, but boy, do they hate Hillary!) The dims are a joke in Midlandia, and people are happy that we’re manufacturing in America like the old days. That’s about the extent of their participation, so unless the economy goes to sh—-, he’s in for another four.


      • vladdy says:

        Again, this was to go under the “I’ve talked to the average….” quote, not the one it ended up under. CTH does strange, mystical things….(and that “the threat is over”? Put that right in the round file with those “thousands — or whatever — of sealed indictments” we’ve been hearing about for two Christmases now.)


    • Vicus says:

      Oh, doing polls now? How’s that 92% Hillary winning??


      • thegoosefish says:

        He wont have the luxury of running against Clinton this time. He needs to do much better with the media than he is doing presently


  7. Pale rider says:

    Brings to remembrance the look on the congress critters faces when talking to those bounty hunters who were going after Clinton. It was very telling, they all were scared. We need more bounty hunters.
    They wrapped this up with Sessions before the votes were even cast for trump. Remember sessions would resign if rosenstein was fired? Now makes sense. He has to go, and in disgrace before this nation, he is a traitor.

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  8. Chuck Stephens says:

    Sorry, this is on the President. If we see the fraud if the Huber investigation and have seen it for a long time, then he has also seen it. If he saw it then why not appoint the Special Counsel ASAP? It would be the only way to resolve and hold the DOJ/FBI accountable. Dueling Special Counsels would have crippled Mueller and perhaps even held him liable for legal transgressions. The only way was to appoint the SC…By the way, Burn in Hell, Jeff Sessions!

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    • This is far more on the half of the electorate who are brainwashed to deny the many frauds and treason we have seen “for a long time”. The country is cut in two, and our President has been trying to make a thoroughly broken system work again.

      And I think the whole treasonous cabal — especially Obama/Soetoro (+Jarrett), Brennan, and Sessions — should burn together.

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      • Peoria Jones says:

        It’s on the bad actors, first and foremost. Then it’s on the electorate, most of whom are either too clueless to understand, or so lazy that they sit back and do nothing while expecting one man to fix decades of national decay by himself.

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    • Nope. This is on AG Sessions. EVERYTHING flows from the unnecessary recusal of Jeff Sessions. President Trump told us he would have never nominated Sessions had he known of the recusal.

      Liked by 3 people

      • Pale rider says:

        I agree 100%. And add, he was set up in that position at that time to do what he did. This was all along the plan, to me that’s very disturbing. I don’t know if they need to go into a maximum security prison to find an AG that will go head hunting or what but we need a man who will do the job that needs to be done with these crooks and killers.

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        • vladdy says:

          Put me in that category, as well. In fact, I can’t see this Southern senator deciding to back the long shot from NYC, even if he was strong enough to take the ribbing he’d have to take until victory night, which he obviously is not. My money says he was a plant in the campaign.


        • guest4ever says:

          Joe DeGenova is my nomination


  9. Joshua says:

    — 1/7
    [It was asked earlier as to what the Constitution has to say in regard to the Declaration of Independence. So I thought it might be instructive to see how the many dispersed units and pieces can be glued together to arrive at some (more) truths, again – or maybe know them for the first time.]

    As a point of mental curiosity, if it’s not already obvious:

    The DOI supersedes the COTUS. (It also predates it, making this fact transparent; but more can be said).

    — The DOI is declaration (based on) of NATURAL LAW/RIGHTS.

    These are things which cannot be violated in this PHYSICAL universe. It goes the extra mile and actually enunciates some LAWS referenced therein, including care to addressing any concerns which may arise as to Their derivation from a Source (as a courtesy, you could say).

    But They exist external to a Time:
    These are self-evident.

    I will tell you a secret though. The actual “words” of the LAW referenced are: RIGHT TO TRY.

    However, it was obvious to TJ and everyone else that stating the obvious would needlessly steal from the shimmer and cause for the sake of intellectual completeness; so there was given no weight or utility in such detail of precision. Luckily for them, and us, they succeeded in the PHYSICAL battle that ensued (despite their Declaration of the RIGHT), though at great cost.

    — The COTUS is a declaration of LEGAL LAW/RIGHTS.

    It is a charter/compact about a number of things, but not limited to an enunciation of what LEGAL (man-made) LAWS/RIGHTS the government (men) will provide for, and respect of, each other.

    It has no bearing whatsoever on the DOI.
    There were disagreements over it (COTUS), but buckets of blood were not shed following the creation of this document.

    [It is worth noting: a lot of space was spared by leaning on pre-existing “Common Law” – as a non-lawyer I can’t say much more about that atm – but basically it’s a whole Encyclopedia of terms/concepts/practices (read: their society/culture) that by incorporating alleviated the tediousness of having to write it all out from scratch.]

    — The magic that few understand is that it does not attempt to enumerate ALL LEGAL RIGHTS, but instead defines against the ephemeral boundary of NATURAL RIGHTS, on the one side (the extent of which is unknown), and only specifies some broad shapes of the boundary on the other side, LEGAL RIGHTS…

    [To attempt to faithfully represent such a Dominion with pen and paper would be extremely prideful, and a certain failure.]

    … everything else, e-v-e-r-y-t-h-i-n-g, literally (as it was not then or now known), was left up to the States and The(ir) People.

    Today, It is to be implied the sequence:
    [legal] State->County->Municipal …
    [hybrid] … neighborhood->neighbors …
    [personal] … house->family, and so on.

    “Law” and authority, even when the “law” is spoken, not written, follows this exact pattern for the most part; as you will now notice upon reflection.

    — With some machinery developed, let’s try some examples to see how this works in practice:

    — Easy one:

    Do I have a NATURAL RIGHT to speak?

    Answer: NO
    For if I am born without limbs and a tongue I could barely express myself.
    Yet I am still human, equally worthy under the eyes of my Creator, and hopefully under laws I agree to live under.

    ✔️That is clearly consistent and coherent.

    Bonus question: How do I show “consent” ? [*]

    — An important example:

    I have a NATURAL RIGHT to try to swing at my neighbor.
    (Test this yourself: and skeptics should note that cellmates are “neighbors”, while those in walled-off cells are not)
    My neighbor has a NATURAL RIGHT to try to defend himself.
    The PHYSICAL LAWS will determine the physical outcome (injury etc…)
    The LEGAL LAWS will determine the legal outcome (imprisonment, law suits, etc…)

    ✔️So that example works.

    (Note: denying some methods of defense (violence) while allowing the same methods (violence) to non-sanctioned others for offense would clearly be a stupid LAW to agree to; and akin to giving away one’s NATURAL RIGHTS.)

    And from the above example we learn/say that “to be part of society” (i.e. not locked-up) is to sacrifice (hand over) the NATURAL RIGHT to violence to the State, for to make a better society, and to prevent the endless cycle of Vengeance that would otherwise occur among humans – the most common default state as exhibited by History.

    We say “the State has a monopoly on violence” because when the men chosen to enforce the LEGAL LAW employ violence it is Sanctioned by Our own volition and accepted, and thus immunized from any revenge (ideally). This now comes into psychology and population here; for when/if these “sanctioned” actions become relative/questioned, the Sanction itself can become suspect a this is where u can start to see cracks (fractures) in a society. They are also many ways to promote fracture.

    — A different, handy example of a NATURAL LAW:

    _Acceptance_ is only given, not imposed.

    This is a NATURAL LAW.

    One can try as hard as they might and wield every weapon in the universe but they cannot violate or overcome this Reality.
    Posted by: LYBL at December 13, 2018 01:21 PM (hBIFh)

    “Which is why they no longer fight for acceptance, but instead fight for submission.”

    ✔️ (As someone correctly pointed out in the reply: “they” are left to attempt submission)

    And this is in essence at the core of the “cultural takeover”.

    They will make a segment, or generation, submit meanwhile indoctrinating its children into acceptance, thus effecting lasting change. It’s slow of course as casting values takes time; but it still does not violate NATURAL LAW; it is wholly subservient to it (you could claim circumventing of it but all is fair in war right…)

    — Now, it may or may not be an obvious corollary that:

    Secession is Extra-Constitutional.
    The COTUS has no say, just as it has no bearing on the DOI.
    (There is of course the amendment process and Article V but these assume at least local control (central corruption only) etc.)

    It is a NATURAL RIGHT TO TRY to exit a contract if one wishes to. (The formality of dissolving a State only to reconstitute under a New name is not even something a lawyer would quarrel over. Though the question of whether a State as constituted can/”wills” to exit, and how, may of course be up to the State and its constitution etc… details details, but more or less repeating the sequence of power delegation always back “down” – and out, outward – to the People within, (but NOT outside – Duh).)

    But there is no guarantee one will succeed to be free (of it). Whether the other party will acquiesce or not is of course not a priori constrained in any way; Mother England did not. (There are ways to persuade and apply pressure to increase the odds of acquiescence).

    In the end, PHYSICAL LAW as commanded by the Creator, is the ultimate arbiter.

    There is no NATURAL RIGHT to freedom … of anything ! Except to think, believe, and to die [*] – well, as an example of these things not yet being totally known, the last item is technically no longer strictly true due to advancements in medicine).

    There is no NATURAL RIGHT to PHYSICAL freedom.
    It must be secured by hand(s).

    There will always be those who will continually pick at the freedom/right/liberty from one to magnanimously award it to another; and in this process become arbiters themselves (this is one definition of Power – a keyword is: continually).


    • Joshua says:

      Really sorry for the unchecked length – got carried away there.
      My bad.


      • Alligator Gar says:

        All men are born at liberty as from their Creator.

        Freedom is something you get from a master. Freedom can be taken away. I hate freedom. I am not a serf. No MAN can give me freedom. I demand my God-given LIBERTY.

        Liberty is forever. You have the absolute right to liberty as a result of being a human being.

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  10. hellinahandbasket says:

    I still have a hard time believing, that there are no employees in the FBI (40,000 employees), CIA (25,000 employees) DoJ (110,000 employees), NSA (45,000 employees) who have come forward secretively to provide information and testimony about what they witnessed or have knowledge of, within their agency for the last 2-years and more. I have a hard time believing the ENTIRETY of these agencies are 0bummer EvilTwatHillary fans, and 100% of those employees either willingly participated, or willingly kept silent to this day, or that of the almost 250,000 employees, a quarter-of-a-million employees, who work within these agencies – not a single one has any information to offer. There’s just too many people around at all times for all of this psyops against Trump to carry-on unnoticed. Who they would go to with what they know/saw/heard… well, I have no idea, but we haven’t heard a peep out of anyone, not even one rogue employee spouting-off to the MSM to give false testimony in defense of the shenanigans – but my gut tells me there are many Patriots/White Hats who have revealed what they know, no matter how big or small, it just doesn’t make sense for there not to be someone who has spoken-up.

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    • hell- it’s not so incredible. Keep in mind that NOT ONE Senator came forward with a vote that would have allowed our President Trump to so some recess appointments. NOT ONE.

      Liked by 5 people

    • mutantbeast says:

      The FBI today isnt about being cops, the upper echelons are ALL summy lowlife LAWYERS, most of whom woldnt make it in a decent law firm Just like our so-called “politicians”, many who also are failed lawyers who dont have the intelligence to be a decent lawyer(of which there arent many) but ehre leftist ideology and hatred of personal freedom makes them belovec by our “media” propaganda artists. who then go far out of there way to craft images favorable to there fellow commies. I can tell you that the LasVegas FBI, who ASAC is a close friend of McCabes, is holding back what they know about Paddock because they dont want the public finding out about it.

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      • J-Mac says:

        Trump has got his man Wray in now after getting rid of Comey in case you haven’t noticed.

        Trump won’t put up with any rubbish from the FBI, and neither will Wray.

        Trump put Wray into Drain the FBI Swamp!!



    • Charlotte Powell Brooks says:

      Though it would still be a large number, you have to remember that not all these people are directly or indirectly working on the same objective. And, as you stated, who would they go to?


    • George says:

      If they do, they seem t dier of natural causes in a motel room


  11. When folks here said this Huber thing was a Jeff Sessions head fake we were called trolls. We were told Jeff-The-Silent-Executioner is playing 4D chess and these cases take years to prosecute. We were told to basically shut up or go away.

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  12. Charlotte Powell Brooks says:

    During the clinton administration, two investigations (the Cox Report concerning US nuclear technology somehow going to China and the Barrett Report which had allegations of clinton weaponizing the doj/irs against American citizens) were eventually released to the general public. Three democratic US Senators, john kerry, dick durbin, and byron dorgan forced them to be heavily redacted. Sound familiar?
    The President could declassify/release these as well as other documents, unredacted, that are not under mueller’s broad and sweeping investigation and expose the coverups that have been in play for so long and by who.
    This corruption is nothing new, but the main players are still the same.

    Liked by 5 people

    • Louisiana Tea Rose says:

      HEY!!! That is a brilliant idea! Since pro-Trump people are constantly labeled as koo-koo-for-cocopuffs, with tin foil hats and conspiracy theories, it would be quite a show-and-tell to illustrate the level of subterfuge that can occur without the ability to shine light on nefarious actors. Luv this!

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  13. mutantbeast says:

    Tuber Huber was appointed bt Pigbama. Everyone Pigbama appointed was a commie, it was a job requirement in Pigbamas adminwhat has happened with IG Whoreobitch? Nothing has, as I predicted).


  14. Perot Conservative says:

    Whitaker hasn’t been able to travel bc of a “busy travel schefule”.

    Hiding him? Worried he will be grilled?


  15. beachbum31 says:

    there is still a wild card in the deck. a BIG ONE. if Assange is making the list of people signing this memo SWEAT, he is my hero of the new year.


    Liked by 1 person

    • Zorro says:

      That would be nice but we have the Wikileaks Podesta emails that clearly show the symbiotic relationship between the Demosocialist Party and the MSM. In particular Maggie Haberman, yet they still portray themselves as the unbiased purveyors of the truth and Maggie still tweets away against the president. All with no blowback.


      • Leaving says:

        This is a very, very important point. A review of the emails leaves no question of direct collusion between Hillary and the media to create messages.

        There has been absolutely no consequence to this. Although it did “wake up” some people, most people think that it’s a “conspiracy theory”. This shows the power of the large media companies to suppress information.

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  16. Zorro says:

    Huber = Stealth Jeff’s Grand Illusion

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  17. john edward lorenz says:

    As I have posted previously, the elites will not accept responsibility nor allow us to hold them accountable for their seditious acts and attempted coup in addition to their destruction of what was the social contract–period. After all we as Americans maybe “equal”as long as a 2 tiered system remains in place. Yeah equal.

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  18. lawton says:

    I hope Barr gets confirmed soon. He will tell Mueller to wrap this nonsense up if he doesn’t have anything which it appears he doesn’t.


    • aarmad says:

      I would not be too sure of that, he may be a swamp creature also!

      Liked by 1 person

    • Dee says:

      I trust no one, Barr is a Bushie, he is part of the swamp. He will do nothing helpful.

      Liked by 1 person

      • vladdy says:

        and a longtime friend of mule-er. I do not trust anyone that would be friends with one working on a presidential overthrow, with possible nullification in the future. (You don’t think the dims and MSM could persuade — with carefully distributed leaks and propaganda — people that..oh, say, rural people, being a minority, should have their votes count as…pick a number…3/5 of a vote, to “even things up,” because of the electoral college making things “unfair” to the majority or some such? )

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  19. fanbeav says:

    Why not recall the traitor Sessions back to your committee and request the details of hiring these “fake” IG and document handlers that were supposed to detail what happened during the 2016 election and the spying on President Trump’s campaign?


  20. John Peacock says:

    So tell us just why no one is willing to step forward and start the ball rolling,and rectify this travesty
    of government ???

    Liked by 1 person

  21. ccrabill says:

    The information that was covered by citizen investigative journalist, Tracy Beanz on YouTube, was a stunning revelation of Dennis Montgomery’s desperate attempt, with the assist of Larry Klayman to get before a court the VOLUMINOUS documentation of Brennan and Clapper spying on tens of millions of Americans, including Supreme Court Justices, Trump and others for blackmail. It mentioned Peter Stzoks role as point man in harvesting the most damning intel, which explains the absolutely demonic snear on his face when testifying before Congress. He saw them all as naked and beneath contempt, because with the intel he has on all of them they were. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQILiuc4-WI

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  22. Tom Savage says:

    Is it possible for FISC judge Collyer to appoint her own prosecutor to resolve the FISA criminality?

    Liked by 1 person

  23. rockdoc76 says:

    There really can be only one ending to this level of demonic corruption. True in 1776. Even truer today.

    “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal,
    that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights,
    that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. —
    That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men,
    deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That
    whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is
    the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new
    Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its
    powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their
    Safety and Happiness”

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  24. 55praises says:

    However (if ever) the abuse of power both here and abroad is actually adjudicated, what a travesty that it happened and continues today. I imagine the extreme disappointment were one of our Founders to contemplate these issues. The thought came to mind that there are some bad “apples” (a lot of bad apples) rotting the entire country.

    How can we surgically remove the bad parts (I am not aware of any geological faults that might slip Washington DC and environs away in one fell swoop)? I don’t know how, I just know it needs to happen.


  25. J-Mac says:

    What I don’t get is – why didn’t Trump FIRE Obama holdovers like Rosenstein & Wray as soon as he had the authority?!?!?!

    Why did Trump leave Obama holdover Rosenstein as Deputy Attorney-General, and why did Trump leave Obama holdover Christopher Wray as the Head of the FBI?!!?

    Why not fire these two and put in his own people when he became President??!?

    It is really strange.


    • Vicus says:

      Wray wasn’t an Obama appointee.

      And remember, over a dozen senior officials are gone.

      Oh, and what did Trump say long after these people were left in power? “We caught them in the act”


  26. Richard Orberson says:

    The biggest problem is not exposing the corruption, it is doing something to punish the people who are corrupt nobody’s wants to touch it

    Liked by 1 person

    • Vicus says:


      All these “concern trolls” don’t realize how much sunlight has been made. I’m having conversations with people just 3 and 4 years ago they would have no idea what I’m saying about the Deep State and call me a kook.

      Look, it really is a pipe to expect these high level officials ever face jail.

      Breaking the Cultural Marxist & Globalist conditioning is a win larger than Hillary & Obama going to jail.

      #Gamergate was the catalyst
      Trump 2016 was the ignition

      Have you seen the backlash to the Gillette ad? Or the Battlefield V backlash? The massive rise for a deplatformed Alex Jones? Cord cutting? The implosion of Hollywood?

      People here need to garner some perspective.

      It’s only been 2 Trump years, and he’s changed the social dynamics of the last 20.

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  27. Summer says:

    Been saying that Huber was doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING since we first learned about his existence from Decepticon Jeff. Been ridiculing the “gazillion sealed indictments” from day one. Recognized the Q operation as deep state psyops right after I first read his nonsense posted by a treeper on this board. I have never believed that a serious investigation into ANY abuse of power is going on. The DOJ is beyond redemption. It cannot be reformed as long as ALL career employees (corrupt democrat operatives, every single one of them, down to the janitorial staff who are probably spies or commies or both) are still there.

    I am tired of being right 100% every time because most of my predictions that keep coming true don’t make me happy.

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  28. Mr BiG Time says:

    “Stunningly Effective “ – you gotta hand it to these treasonous rats – looking at it from their angle …

    they are probably patting themselves on the back! Saying to themselves “we did awesome job of coverup and prevent – no one messes w us”.


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