BREAKING: DOJ Releases 412 Pg FISA Application Used Against U.S. Person Carter Page….

The U.S. Department of Justice and FBI have released the 412 page FISA application used to gain a Title I surveillance warrant against U.S. Person Carter Page in 2016 while he was working as a low-level unpaid adviser for the campaign of Donald Trump.  [The full pdf is available here – and embedded below]

The October 2016 application to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court to wiretap Mr. Page, along with several renewal applications — was released to The New York Times and several other news organizations that had filed Freedom of Information Act lawsuits to obtain them.  [Link to source pdf here]

The application is heavily redacted, but there’s enough information available to seriously impact the prior narratives as written by the media.  As we review the content carefully, CTH will have much more on this in the coming hours/days.  However, here’s the FISA application – please add your comments on the content therein:

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There is a ton of new information within this version of the application. More later…

 

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1,158 Responses to BREAKING: DOJ Releases 412 Pg FISA Application Used Against U.S. Person Carter Page….

  1. Ivehadit says:

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    • mazziflol says:

      MS-13 Democrats

      Liked by 6 people

    • Donna in AZ says:

      Mr. President in all due respect it is time to do your job !

      Liked by 1 person

    • Jedi9 says:

      Who is going to prison? What are the implications of this newly released document? How will they try to spin this now that the cat is out of the bag? Are we looking at the usual suspects?

      The Big Ugly?

      The chess pieces are being moved again, this time for the end game?

      Timing is everything in the grander scheme of things! Wait for it! Wait for it!

      The best poker hand played is one when no one knows you have the winning one! Royal straight flush!

      Look forward to your analysis Sundance! Keep up the good fight!

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  2. America First says:

    Please donate to The Last Refuge and to Judicial Watch.

    We know many of the things that we now know solely due to their efforts. Those efforts are not cheap. Just one small way to be a Patriot in the fight to save the Republic.

    Liked by 31 people

    • Angry Dumbo says:

      Amen.

      Liked by 5 people

    • Zimbalistjunior says:

      Yes but be warned that if you do donate your name will be on a list and you will be subject to a FISA being obtained against you.

      I am partially kidding.

      Liked by 12 people

      • Deplorable_Infidel says:

        I am probably on the U.N.’s “shoot on sight” list because the re-education camps are not going to work on me. At this point, what difference does it make? (to be on one more list)
        I already donate to both, so things are kosher here.

        I am waiting for Mueller’s subpoena, since I e-mailed some of the people he has probably “hopped” to while I was a NYer’s for Trump volunteer. They can come and get me, because I am not spending a penny to see him.

        I also fancied a few [legal] Russian immigrants when I attended a local community college (as an adult) for computer programming around the 9/11 era.

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        • allhail2 says:

          Exactly this. I agree. I am right the f here. They wanna FISA me, I don’t care. Do what they gotta do. But if they come for me, they better put their bravest at the front of the line.

          Liked by 1 person

          • scott467 says:

            “But if they come for me, they better put their bravest at the front of the line.”

            _______________

            If you have cause to think they’re coming, don’t just wait for them.

            Set booby-traps.

            And be somewhere else when they show up.

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        • scott467 says:

          “I am probably on the U.N.’s “shoot on sight” list because the re-education camps are not going to work on me.”

          _____________

          They should certainly be on ours.

          Turnabout is fair play, after all.

          And they are the few… we are the many.

          If anyone ought to be concerned, it’s them.

          Like

          • I won't back down says:

            but wait there are no such things as borders anymore, so why do we even have the UN? If no one will respect the sovereignty (defined in part by its borders) then we are done with that particular institution – according to the dems and their completely flawed logic on abolishment of ice, etc. borders are racist. So,by definition the UN is racist and also should be on the block for abolishment.

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      • jmclever says:

        Buy a money order at Walmart and mail it in. At least make them work harder to find out its you

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    • daystarmin says:

      Done Did

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    • C. L Roemke says:

      Excellent timing for the post. Look how much people can actually learn here.
      I’m donating right now. And thanks to CTH.

      Liked by 1 person

    • clairebee says:

      Consider donating to Conservative YOuth groups such as YAL. They are our future.

      Like

    • spren says:

      I just donated to CTH just before I came on this thread.

      Liked by 1 person

    • America First- you are 100% correct. It is absolutely essential that we donate to the CTH especially. Thanks for the reminder.

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  3. litenmaus says:

    My understanding was that each FISA renewal had to be accompanied by information that was gained from a preceding warrant. I see no justifications for continued surveillance as it doesn’t seem as if any information was gathered, just the same speculations made during all four applications and no proof what-so-ever that Carter Page flipped since his testimony on behalf of the FBI in the March 2016 Russian trial.

    Liked by 9 people

    • nahalkides says:

      That is an interesting point. I only made it through the first two applications, but we must ask why didn’t the second judge question the application since the first three months of surveillance had turned up exactly nothing. This would suggest that the FISA Court was too much of a rubber stamp. Our privacy is not protected if the court is going to grant a warrant any time the FBI says, “We believe this person is a foreign agent” without pressing the Bureau for some convincing proof that the target is a foreign agent (and is moreover about to violate the criminal laws of the United States).

      Liked by 5 people

    • rogerdat says:

      my question also, especially in light of Page not being under indictment for conduct or false speech, what was gleaned that warranted the extensions?

      crickets…………….

      Liked by 3 people

    • BestBets says:

      Yes, my thoughts exactly and I probably learned that here. I understood that each subsequent application needed to have added information to further justify it. Apparently the applicants AND the judges think that’s simply a suggestion.

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    • andy says:

      Im guessing the DNI report was the trigger to renew it. info does not directly have to come from the fisa taps, but ‘other sources indicate’…. lets line up the other renewal dates with media drops.

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    • Pat Frederick says:

      iirc and i may not be, but wasn’t the Steele dossier submitted in sections? perhaps not all of it was submitted with the initial warrant request…?? therefore they could make the claim that additional info was found with each submission.

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      • litenmaus says:

        That’s an interesting thought, however, if that were the case, I would assume that there would be footnotes regarding the info in each new application and iirc there were only 5 changes/additions in the footnotes throughout all 4 applications.

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  4. Concerned says:

    Yes, there is information here. It’s called people you do not want working for you.
    On
    269 Michael R Pompeo
    389 Michael R Pompeo
    Daniel Coats DNI
    391 Rosenstein DAG

    Look who is intended to approve these FISA applications, for their respective organizations.
    Would you want someone working as your Secretary of State after approving a FISA to spy on you and your campaign via Page? I would not!

    Same question for Daniel Coats DNI and Rosenstein DAG.

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    • seekingthetruth2 says:

      What I have seen so far is that these signature spaces are “boilerplate” and not signed. Can a FISA go forward WITHOUT all the other signees signatures? IOW, can only one signature authorize the FISA?

      Liked by 2 people

      • thinkthinkthink says:

        Yes.

        Liked by 2 people

      • Concerned says:

        To many people not signing for this to ever have been a completed document.

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        • Sandra-VA says:

          Only ONE person signs. That is boilerplate signature lines for those who are authorized to initiate FISA warrant applications.

          FBI Comey signed the first three and McCabe signed the 4th one.

          DOJ Sally Yates signed off on two, Dana Boente signed off on one and Rod Rosenstein signed off on the last one.

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          • Concerned says:

            Then only the following signed off on all of the applications without the others seeing the applications?
            Comey
            McCabe
            Sally Yates
            Dana Boente
            Rod Rosenstein

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            • Sandra-VA says:

              This was an FBI initiated warrant request, therefore the FBI signatory signed where indicated.

              The other signature lines are blank because those people did not initiate the warrant.

              The only people who are aware of the warrant are those that signed off on it. Thus, none of the other names where signature lines are blank knew about the warrant requests.

              If it had been a State Dept warrant request, the signature would have been from that dept’s designated signer… and none of the others would know about it because they didn’t participate in the warrant request.

              Hope that helps to clear things up.

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              • Cowwow says:

                Thank you Sandra. It certainly helps me understand it much more clearly.

                Liked by 1 person

              • Concerned says:

                Allot of help Sandra – thank you!

                This hole process is so compartmentalized, it became a easy target for corruption. Only a few people Comey, McCabe, Sally Yates, Dana Boente, Rod Rosenstein were needed in order to bypass it’s controls.

                The effort expended by the FBI/DOJ to hide this fact tells us allot about the process and the others in the IC.

                The FBI/DOJ must have been catching hell from the others in the IC. Forced to coverup for them in order to protect one of their favorite tools.

                It seems likely that Comey, McCabe, Sally Yates, Dana Boente, Rod Rosenstein are being protected because if their screw up surfaced, became public for Joe citizen. The IC would lose the FISA warrant.

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        • jmclever says:

          What if, in addition to it being falsified, signatures were forged?

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      • nahalkides says:

        I’d have to recheck the FISA statute, but I believe the signature of any one of the authorized persons is enough. They must have laid out the page that way simply for convenience so they didn’t have to type up a new page for any of the signatories.

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    • joeknuckles says:

      Remember the 2 hop rule? Remember that Page and Caputo were in Contact with Halper? Who was Halper in contact with? (that’s one hop) Who were those people in contact with? (that’s 2 hops)
      Now, can anybody tell me why in the world anybody who is MAGA would want those warrants in place well into 2017?

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      • Truthfilter says:

        That’s a question I have been pondering. Carter Page stopped working for the Trump campaign in September of 2016 or was it 2017? Why would they need to keep running surveillance on him so far into 2017?

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      • gsonFIT says:

        Could it be for possible future prosecution or statute of limitations?

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    • thinkthinkthink says:

      Boilerplate for specific positions.
      You are reading the certified copy which they NEVER SIGNED.

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    • yzest5121 says:

      You’re misreading the signature legend

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    • MaineCoon says:

      Reposting. Discussed more on prior pages.

      In the capacity of the office each individual holds, any one of them could execute the document, but Comey executed it in his capacity as FBI Director. Read the sentence, “accordingly, “I”. It does not read “We”.

      That verification is a generic document with a signature block page to include all dept/agency heads or deputies with the authority to execute a FISA app in their area.

      It’s only executed by an authorized person in the dept/agency requesting the warrant.

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  5. Deplore Able says:

    Page 15 Footnote 8

    Note that Source #1 is Christopher Steele

    “Source #1 [redacted] and has been an FBI source since [redacted]. Source #1’s reporting has been corroborated and used in criminal proceedings and the FBI assesses Source #1 to be reliable.
    Source #1 has been compensated [redacted] by the FBI and the FBI is unaware of any derogatory information pertaining to Source #1.”

    Christopher Steel was compensate by the FBI. The redaction probably reads “compensated by Fusion GPS and” by the FBI. Or maybe the redaction reads “compensated “in the past” by the FBI.
    #unredactthewarrant

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    • L4grasshopper says:

      Note that Source #1 reporting that was corroborated was NOT this info, but previous. This is a move to assert the credibility of the Source. But this is NOT what was required. Required was to prove the credibility of THIS info. The Source is irrelevant to that.

      What was being done here was “Source is credible, ergo this info is credible”.

      NOT a valid proof. At all.

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  6. Shadrach says:

    I guess my only comment (except that the markings are interesting) is that they based this warrant in part on the Russian Federation supplying the DNC emails to Wikileaks, which we know from Binney (transfer rates) didn’t happen….unless Seth Rich is really Sethski Richikov.

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  7. Nope2GOPe says:

    Call me crazy, but this BS may be intended to keep the Russia Russia Russia narrative going on life support. I believe that releasing Sessions after this carnival ride ends, and his recusal is no longer an issue, will be much akin to releasing the Kraken.

    Perhaps our beloved President is timing the release of information to coincide with the mid term elections?

    Until then, the silent assassin sits in the shadows locked and loaded, waiting for his opportunity to strike.

    Perhaps our President has ordered his own fireworks display for this timeframe?…

    Time will tell.

    Liked by 8 people

    • littleanniesfannie says:

      I’m thinking a nice military parade!

      Liked by 4 people

    • JonMaxwell says:

      Maybe the President has an October surprise of his own

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    • Dave Sanderson says:

      TIMING IS EVERYTHING. I have believed all along that Trump & Sessions are waiting until sometime after Labor Day to unleash their lethal nuclear vengeance on these FBI + CIA + DNI schemers who have been attempting the coup against PDJT.

      Those here pay far more attention to political stuff than 99% of Americans. Most normal, sane people tune out the noise of politics until about 4 to 6 weeks before elections …sometime after Labor when many more Americans are ‘paying attention to politics ‘ is when Jeff Sessions will drop the indictments from prosecutor John Huber (remember him?) on this entire evil cabal. THEY all know their time is running out. Trump has en entire chapter in his book on the vital importance of taking revenge upon those who have opposed you / wronged you.

      PDJT will not, not, NOT let them go unpunished. Sometime between Labor Day and election day is when this will explode, for maximum impact to crush Democrats in the mid-terms.

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  8. Tim Glave says:

    They absolutely lied about Steele not talking to reporters. Its been proven Glen Simpson set interviews with Steele and many news organizations.

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    • andy says:

      yup. DNC /Clinton had release valve control on the collected dossier, and steele knew he was sbreaking the FBI contract by doing so, and did it anyway. Within 24 hours clinton campaign released a ‘imagine our shock’ press release.

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  9. Cooper45 says:

    I curiously checked out other sites to see how this story is being covered and Gateway Pundit has moved on from this (now 3rd place) story but I got a laugh out of this comment:

    SUMMERFISHINGDAZE • 2 hours ago
    THIS ██████ IS███ ███████ ██ A█████████ ██ ██████ ███ WITCH█████████ █████████HUNT████ FIRE MUELLER█████ FIRE ROSENSTEIN █████ SIGNED███ THE GHOSTS OF OUR FOUNDING FATHERS█████
    ~

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    • JasonD says:

      No, if it is a ‘bona fida’ witch hunt, please let it continue. I think that it is safe to say that there is AT LEAST one witch who is known and deserves to be GOT. I for one have no problem with that w(b)itch being burned at the stake, even if only metaphorically!

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  10. Nom de Blog says:

    Paragraph U on Page 23:
    There are five different weasel words used in a single sentence. And all based on MSM reporting that Steele had leaked to the MSM, besides.

    Liked by 6 people

    • zimbalistjunior says:

      yes…is harry reid deceased? why has he not been brought in for questioning.

      Liked by 2 people

      • Judyw says:

        zimbalistjunior, he’s probably in his bathroom exercising . 🙂

        Liked by 2 people

      • Rex70 says:

        Satan Jr. beat it the heck outta D.C. after Hilda’s embarrassing beatdown as quickly as his hoofs could carry him–straight back to his little place in pre-Hell (Searchlight, Nevada) for a little r&r from all of his official Democrat criminal activities. He’s enjoying all of his ill-gotten, I mean, hard-earned millions of dollars from law-fixing local land contracts and flying as far below the radar of this D.C. mess (that he definitely helped create) as his horned wings can flutter. His “retirement” from the Swamp, however, does not prevent him from meddling in as many local and Nevada elections as his minions will allow…there’s an open seat for Governor that one of his good ol’ boy, Dem-sleazebucket, buddies covets as well as a Senate seat (Heller) he is hoping to flip; hopefully, Tark will flip one of the four House seats back to red for the optimal 3-1 GOP majority that we lost back in 2016 because of some spineless Never-Trumper candidates. But rest assured, Satan Jr. is alive and well…we’ll see if Karma has its way with him in this life.

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  11. thinkthinkthink says:

    Zero confidence in FBI, DOJ, FISA judges to follow the spirit and intent of the Constitution at all after seeing what a rice paper in the rain this application –with 4 approvals– turns out to be.

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  12. H.R. says:

    I think the 412 pages are part of the technique to get FISA approvals.

    FISA Judge thinking: “They expect me to read a novel when I have a full docket in my regular court?!?”

    FISA Judge asks: “How bad is it?”

    Answer: “Really bad. We’ve got good sources.”

    FISA JUDGE rules: “Granted.”

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    • Chieftain says:

      The 412 pages are essentially the original application repeated for three renewals and also a fair portion repeated by the authorizing Judges in their approval. A few new footnotes and modifications are added in the renewals buried in the footnotes, most of which discloses things that had they been included in the original application would work against approval by the Judge.

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    • Trumpmendous says:

      FISA Judge: What sources?
      Answer: Speculation in the media.
      FISA Judge: Oooh, those are good sources. Granted.

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      • znoxide says:

        That was one of the things that surprised me reading through the first 50 pages or so. There were so many mentions of “media accounts”. I certainly would hope that Yahoo News, NY Times, WSJ and other news outlets were not considered a legitimate source for a FISA application. I would hope they had first-hand accounts or paper trails or some reasonable evidence. I’m not in law enforcement, but the evidence looks pretty flimsy for such an invasive tool.

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    • Dutchman says:

      Been saying all along, fbi/DOJ are not lieing, when they redact and refuse info, our of concern it would reveal ‘sources and methods’.

      The 99% approval rate says it all. When they wanted to surveil them, to get evidence they couldn’t otherwise get, they cobbled together some b.s. fisa warrant, and pushed it thru the court.

      This became S.O.P.

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  13. Hmmm... says:

    I’m livid. Carter Page had his Constitutional rights absolutely abused by the FBI in concert with the entire upper echelons of the government. Absolutely sickening stuff. And to watch people defend it is infuriating.

    The most intrusive tool available was used on a private citizen via a secret court using a @#$@ing Yahoo article and a opposition research. It does not get any more corrupt than that.

    Liked by 9 people

    • Publius2016 says:

      hes a SPOOK

      Liked by 4 people

      • wolfmoon1776 says:

        I find it very helpful to take the founders’ attitude – he’s a criminal who deserves the protection of the Constitution and is being denied. Bad Carter, worse FBI.

        Drops all the right nukes in all the right places. 😎

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      • Buck says:

        Admitted he’s “assisted” CIA previously with Russia. Have always wondered if he wasn’t/isn’t on the payroll. Possible CIA asset, plant.

        Liked by 1 person

        • American Male says:

          His appearance as an “advisor” for the Trump campaign is a curious one, he’s a “dupe”, he was used by his handlers to initiate “contact” not only with “Russians” (State Dept recruited actors) but with the president’s campaign, I want to know who exactly recommended him, that person MUST be made too pay the piper too. As for his fate, he violated his oath, he must be pilloried (a televised public trial) then off with his head, NO military funeral, NO internment in a National Cemetery, just toss his ashes in the trash.

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      • sickconservative says:

        Yea but used by our lack of intelligence to spy on PDT.

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    • Paco Loco says:

      …all in the name of National Security. What a joke the FBI has become.

      Liked by 2 people

    • nahalkides says:

      Not only Page, but everyone he communicated with. Remember, they were hoping to intercept the communications of Donald Trump or at least senior Trump advisers, and Page was merely the stepping-stone to allow them to do that based on his rather insignificant role in the campaign.

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    • TomF says:

      Was Carter Page a willing participant?
      His actions lend to that conclusion

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  14. Sandra-VA says:

    I find it interesting that the Certified Copy was made on 3/17/17. Is this when it was sent to Nunes et al?

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  15. Phil aka Felipe says:

    After reading most of this FISA Application(s) on Carter Page, it is obvious to me that it is incredibly easy to get FISA spying authority on American citizens.

    From what I read, it seems the FISA Court is ready and willing to give the appearance of legitimacy to any spy warrants the DC Swamp ‘law enforcement agencies’ present to them. All that is necessary is to make up some narrative, or better yet an easier approach is to reference some “Fake News Story” and voila the full force of the Government spy apparatus and law enforcement can do with you as they will.

    “In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.”
    – Jesus of Nazareth, The Messiah, The Only Redeemer. (John 16:33)

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  16. thinkthinkthink says:

    This was my biggest take away about the actual allegations:

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    • thinkthinkthink says:

      And yeah, I guess everyone thinks Strzok was involved with the FISA applications.

      Liked by 5 people

    • zimbalistjunior says:

      oh and btw if it was watered down, who the f cares?! how is that evidence of anything sufficient enough to be used in a FISA application?!

      Liked by 2 people

      • Buck says:

        The Dems have made their platform into the communist manifesto but let’s investigate Trump because his campaign insisted the GOP platform not go all “McCain” in supporting the bogus, coup installed, Neo Nazi gov of Ukraine against Russia. Which, he was talked into doing anyway by his NeoCon advisers.

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  17. Chieftain says:

    In my reading, I understand Source #1 to be Steele.
    The identified U.S. person to be an employee of Fusion GPS.
    The U.S. based law firm to be Coie Perkins.
    The sub-source is ??

    Why did they redact the name of the DOJ FISA request submitter?

    Why is the day date of the October 2016 FISA request redacted, along with subsequent day dates?

    The warrant was authorized in October 2016 before the election.
    The certified copy of the original FISA warrant is dated March 17, 2017 (When was Mueller appointed?)

    First request signed by Comey & Yates; approved by Judge Rosemary Collyer
    First renewal request is also signed by Comey & Yates; approved by Michael Mosman. Page 181 of Scribd indicates that this renewal was authorized in January 2017, likely before Trump assumed office.
    Second renewal request is signed by Comey & Boente; authorized by Judge Anne C. Conway in April 2017.
    Third renewal request is signed by Andrew McCabe & Rod Rosenstein; authorized by Judge Raymond Dearie.

    Page 108 Scrbd adds a new footnote in the renewal making clear to me at least that source #1 is Steele. The footnote discloses Steele’s talking to a news source.

    Why is Strzok’s name redacted? Wasn’t he the Supervisory Special Agent supervising the investigation of the “target?” Anyway the SSA signed this document too it appears.

    Page 198, 2nd renewal adds a new footnote and on page 207 there is an amended footnote.
    Page 225, Page’s allegation of election fraud by the [Clinton] campaign is disclosed.
    Page 296, new footnote.

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    • thinkthinkthink says:

      I have some of the same questions about dates. Used online search to get my dates straight. Some time ago I remember someone saying the first FISA warrant was set to expire just before before inauguration day. So between 7th and 21st?

      Liked by 3 people

    • JasonD says:

      Name redactions MAY indicate persons undergoing investigation.

      Liked by 2 people

      • American Male says:

        I pray, I pray every day that is the case. I want prosecutions, I also pray GOD protects OUR president from the evildoers that seek his and our demise..

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    • Tonawanda says:

      Interesting how the graphic Sundance uses in these posts showing the circle of corruption has Collyer prominently shown in the middle of the circle.

      Liked by 3 people

      • Chieftain says:

        Interesting that each FISA approval was by a different Judge. Is this required and supposed to be a safeguard? If so, it failed.

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        • Tonawanda says:

          My memory is that FISA judges rotate on set time periods.

          I can almost guarantee you that the BEST and most MORAL explanation for the signatures, the least culpable explanation, is laziness and rubber stamping. It gets worse from there.

          Although it just occurred to me that total idiocy might be the least culpable explanation.

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          • maxwell102 says:

            Don’t overlook the possibility of sheer stupidity and lack of common sense when dealing with lawyers. judges, government workers, and in fact just about anyone in any position come to think of it.

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        • WSB says:

          Good point, Chieftain. My recollection is that once a FISC judge had a case, the renewals would go back to that judge. This case specifically went to different judges.

          Hmmm.

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          • MaineCoon says:

            That’s how I remember the discussion also. I suppose their terms could have expired in the renewal process, coincidentally, or maybe they just expired, again, coincidentally. So many choices.

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    • dutzie60 says:

      Chief, This tweet by The_War_Economy as to who he thinks the subsources are.

      Liked by 2 people

      • MaineCoon says:

        Hmmm. My first guess was the sub-sources were those in Russia who did Steele’s dirty work and never met in person. Just my guess.

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  18. thinkthinkthink says:

    Mark Meadows.

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  19. LafnH20 says:

    How many cereal box tops and Green Stamp books does it take to become a FISA Court Judge again??

    Asking for a friend…

    Liked by 11 people

  20. terry says:

    Interesting reveal from Larry Schweikart on
    Jeff Sessions.

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  21. Craig from Scotland says:

    Reference page 15 to page 16. All you need to know how corrupt this FISA application is.
    Source #1 is Christopher Steele.
    U.S identified person is Glenn Simpson.
    Why is Glenn Simpson not accurately described as the lobbying firm Fusion GPS ?? Glenn Simpson personally didn’t hire Steele/Orbis. Fusion GPS hired Orbis Business Intelligence Ltd. And why the wholesale omission of Perkins Coie as the democrat FUNDING instrument of Fusion GPS ???
    Also, Steele’s previous FIFA soccer dossier information has been described in proceedings as unsubstantiated “hearsay, gossip and rumour”.
    Note, the FBI described Steele’s reporting to be both reliable and CREDIBLE. I would call it incredible.
    ——————-

    Page 15 to 16 –
    “Source #1 [redacted] and has been an FBI source since [redacted]. Source #1’s reporting has been corroborated and used in criminal proceedings and the FBI assess Source #1 to be reliable. Source #1 has been compensated [redacted] by the FBI and the FBI is unaware of any derogatory information pertaining to Source #1.

    Source #1, who owns a foreign business/financial intelligence firm, was approached by an identified U.S. person, who indicated to Source #1 that a U.S. based law firm had hired the identified U.S. person to conduct research regarding Candidate #1’s ties to Russia (the identified U.S. person and Source #1 have a long-standing business relationship). The identified U.S. person hired Source #1 to conduct this research. The identified U.S. person never advised Source #1 as to the motivation behind the research into Candidate #1’s ties to Russia. The FBI speculates that the identified U.S. person was likely looking for information that could discredit Candidate #1’s campaign.

    Source #1 tasked his sub-sources(s) to collect the requisite information. After Source #1 received information from sub-source(s), described herein, Source #1 provided the information to the U.S. identified person who hired Source #1 and to the FBI.

    Notwithstanding Source #1’s reason for conducting the research into Candidate #1’s ties to Russia, based on Source #1’s previous reporting history with the FBI, whereby Source #1 provided reliable information to the FBI, the FBI believes Source #1’s reporting to be credible.”

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    • LBB says:

      Steele had a article with New Yorker after Grassley recommended charges he lied to FBI ( he did ,or FBI did )

      Snip
      “In the spring of 2016, Orbis Business Intelligence—a small investigative-research firm that Steele and a partner had founded, in 2009, after leaving M.I.6, Britain’s Secret Intelligence Service—had agreed to do opposition research on Trump’s murky relationship with Russia. Under the arrangement, Orbis was a subcontractor working for Fusion GPS, a private research firm in Washington. Fusion, in turn, had been contracted by a law firm, Perkins Coie, which represented both Hillary Clinton’s Presidential campaign and the Democratic National Committee. Several months after Steele signed the deal, he learned that, through this chain, his research was being jointly subsidized by the Clinton campaign and the D.N.C. In all, Steele was paid a hundred and sixty-eight thousand dollars for his work.”

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      • LBB says:

        Same article – this is how Orbis gets its’ info.

        “To serve its clients, Orbis employs dozens of confidential “collectors” around the world, whom it pays as contract associates. Some of the collectors are private investigators at smaller firms; others are investigative reporters or highly placed experts in strategically useful jobs. Depending on the task and the length of engagement, the fee for collectors can be as much as two thousand dollars a day. The collectors harvest intelligence from a much larger network of unpaid sources, some of whom don’t even realize they are being treated as informants. These sources occasionally receive favors—such as help in getting their children into Western schools—but money doesn’t change hands, because it could risk violating laws against, say, bribing government officials or insider trading. Paying sources might also encourage them to embellish.”

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    • mr.piddles says:

      “Notwithstanding Source #1’s reason for conducting the research into Candidate #1’s ties to Russia”

      Ha! You mean like that fact that Steele had a serious case of Anti-Trump Disease and would do anything to see that he’s not elected? You mean like that kinda reason?

      What a freaking load of bullsh*t this whole thing is.

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    • Craig from Scotland says:

      More lies and deliberate obfuscation by DOJ/FBI.
      At pages 22 and 23 there are lengthy statements referencing press articles which are amazingly being used as justification for a FISA application. As DOJ/FBI omit the democratic funding and actual background connections between Steele / Fusion GPS / Perkins Coie, the news articles are disingenuously citied as a supporting element of the FISA application. This is wholesale circular information reporting.

      Note, Steele committed a crime and lied to the FBI and that same information was then used in FISA application proceedings, and the FBI does not ‘believe’ Steele provided the information to the press.
      Utter nonsense.
      ———–

      Page 23 –
      “As discussed above, Source #1 was hired by a business associate to conduct research into Candidate #1’s ties to Russia. Source #1 provided the results to his research to the business associate,and the FBI assesses that the business associate likely provided this information to the law firm that hired the business associate in the first place.
      ***Source #1 told the FBI that he/she only provided this information to the business associate and the FBI.***
      The FBI does not believe that Source #1 directly provided this information to the press.”

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    • WSB says:

      Craig, my understanding is that court documents use ‘US Person’ for either individuals or companies.

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  22. daizeez says:

    This mentions on page 9 that Carter Page had established relationships with Russian officials including intelligence officers. Didn’t the FBI use Carter Page years before to obtain information from Russian officials? So they knew that he knew these Russians and he used recording devices to obtain information for the FBI. So far they haven’t mentioned what Carter Page did for the FBI, in the FISA application.

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  23. Publius2016 says:

    this is a false construct…sept 2016? more like March 2011!

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  24. Shadrach says:

    I have one more comment. George Papadopoulous is the only other unredacted person named (who isn’t Russian) in this document. Why?

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  25. Firefly says:

    Wow ! The FBI didn’t do any verification. This will be interesting to see how this meets the wood procedures. Looks like the Press and Christ steel et all can say and make up anything and the FBI uses it without citing any investigation verifying – and the judges rubber stamped it over and over.

    Rosenstein should be impeached or minimum recused while this is investigated.

    Sickening loss of our constitutional rights. Wonder – Will the IG Horowitz make a mockery out of the justice system by recommending training as a solution like he did in the prior report.

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    • L4grasshopper says:

      They claimed that their Source, Steele, was credible. Therefore, as the source of the the dossier info, that info should be *presumed* credible.

      This fails Substantiation 101 — and those FISA judges are supposed to know this.

      The entire basis of the FISA warrant was a fraud.

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    • zimbalistjunior says:

      yes, this coming tuesday, the FBI will enjoy an agency wide three-hour seminar on the ethics of lying.
      kidding sort of

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    • Cankles Clinton says:

      Bias training because there was no bias, so this one will be abuse training because there is no abuse. /s

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    • DJ says:

      “Wow ! The FBI didn’t do any verification.”
      ———————-
      Verification, we don’t need no stinkin’ verification We’re the FBI!! All your lives are belong to us!

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  26. oldschool64 says:

    K… so Judge Contreras was NOT one of the judges who signed off. So why the recusal on the Flynn case? And, why the chatter between the love birds about Strzok potentially having a meeting with him?

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    • Shadrach says:

      Because he wouldn’t sign one he rejected (if he was the first judge). This isn’t the earliest one. And they’re supposed to get the next draft if a FISA warrant is rejected, so it makes sense they’d want to cozy up to him. Why that didn’t happen (presumably) is an interesting question.

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      • Shadrach says:

        Huh, was the second one after the same target (Page)? Guess we don’t know that’s true. The one Contreras was handed might have been for someone else.

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        • zimbalistjunior says:

          ya it might have been for papadapolous, bc they thought they had more bs info on him…and then if rudy contreras rejected it, they decided to try again with Page. maybe thats why papa’s name is mentioned here too.

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  27. thinkthinkthink says:

    Remember Sundance saying others were likely feeding Steele info from unmasking queries of US surveillance databases?

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  28. SmilinJackAbbott says:

    In summary:

    – Page who the FBI now claim was ‘on their radar’ was unwittingly approached by Russian spies and when notified HELPED the FBI nail them.
    – The above falls WAY, WAY, WAY short of FISA warrant probable cause.
    – The probable cause was introduced by Fusion GPS.

    The obvious question at this point is how Fusion GPS knew about Page? The obvious answer is they were fed his name by the FBI creeps or the Ohrs in order to make sh_t up about him to be returned back to them as (what they knew was extremely dubious) probable cause.

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    • zimbalistjunior says:

      they probably just looked at every person Trump named as an advisor on foreign affairs, researched every one and tried to snooker them through halper..

      or they were plants, implanted by anti trump republicans.

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  29. Margaret Berger says:

    Lol the censor bots are trying to redirect traffic from here.

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  30. jello333 says:

    I’m almost afraid to start reading this! Because even with the redactions (and just skimming I can see there are a ton), there’s no doubt gonna still be a few hugely important points in there, and hopefully it’ll go toward proving OUR assumptions were correct. And the overall length… over 400 pages?! Maybe I missed it, but I don’t recall reading that it was that long.

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    • oldschool64 says:

      This release appears to the original application and the 3 renewals which are virtually identical. Thus, the original app is roughly 100 pages.

      Now I am waiting for the #FakeNews media to come with some kind of nonsense like….”It’s 400+ pages so no way it’s just the dossier. They got a mountain of evidence against Trump!” Nah! With the circular reporting along with the info in the dossier, 100 pages is just about right.

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      • Cankles Clinton says:

        “It’s 400+ pages so no way it’s just the dossier. They got a mountain of evidence against Trump!” Oh yeah. They are going to be saying this.

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  31. NJF says:

    Am I understanding this,
    They judge shopped. They copy & pasted instead of having “new info/evidence” for each renewal?

    There goes another talking point, “of course there is evidence, new evidence was presented at each renewal.”

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    • Hmmm... says:

      They also had 90 days worth of surveillance each time to draw upon to determine if the warrant was still needed. That is of course assuming that they actually wanted to know if he was a spy. Pretty clear they didn’t. They just wanted to snoop.

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    • Gil says:

      This is right, and suspected earlier. Same with the current witch hunt team. They are cutting pasting plagiarizing and making it up as they go too. Except, this isnt college english with cliff notes.

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    • nimrodman says:

      NJF said: “Am I understanding this, They judge shopped. They copy & pasted instead of having “new info/evidence” for each renewal?”

      Your point about new evidence (or lack) is well-founded.

      I don’t think the copy&paste is an issue because the basic elements of the original application would be repeated in the renewals.

      Failing to include new evidence each renewal IS a shortcoming as I understand it.

      As to surmising that they judge shopped – if it’s because different judges signed off on the various renewals, I don’t think that’d be a valid supposition.

      Months ago there was discussion that the FISA judges sit on the bench in rotation from a pool of about 6 or 8?

      So the sitting FISA judge would depend on the timing of where each renewal fell in that rotation of judges.

      So I don’t think that either the copy/pasted nor the different judges are necessarily evidence of judge shopping.

      That’s my rough understanding – if I misinterpreted your intent, then never mind.

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  32. I may be a little late to the party with this, but I was trying to remember if Mr. Page was a witness for the FBI in a Russian spy case in 2013. Found this article which answered my question and then some:https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2018/06/07/carter_page_russian_spy__or_fbi_honor_scout.html
    FTA:”A U.S. Naval Academy alumnus, Page cooperated as a witness in that case, which was coordinated with the bureau’s Counterespionage Section Chief Peter Strzok in Washington, and he helped the government convict the Russian spy. Evgeny Buryakov pleaded guilty to espionage-related charges on March 11, 2016. FBI agents, as well as federal prosecutors, huddled with Page around that time to tie up loose ends, he said. “It had absolutely nothing to do with the election interference story, which surfaced months later,” Page said.”

    I am pretty sure this was discussed here before, but with all that has been going on I could not remember.
    But “Super Peter” was in the midst of this case and had to have been familiar with Mr. Page and the vetting of his testimony. “Super Peter” must have known about this:

    FTA:”In his sworn 2015 complaint against Buryakov, FBI special agent Gregory Monaghan portrays Page — referring to him as “Male-1” — as a guileless victim, and described how Buryakov and other Russian agents tried to take advantage of the American businessman, who was unaware he was dealing with foreign spies.
    The FBI agent further attested that the Russians never told Page they were “connected to the Russian government,” and that Page was only “interested in business opportunities in Russia,” where he had worked for years for Merrill Lynch and as an independent energy consultant.
    In the end, the Russians were unable to recruit Page and never received any state secrets from him. Monaghan did not recommend espionage or any other charges against Page, who by all accounts acted as a reliable and trusted witness in the case. Far from being a Russian spy, Page was characterized to the court as someone who helped the FBI catch Russian spies.”

    The article goes on to say that once Mr. Page was announced to be a part of the Trump campaign, “Mr. Comedy” and AG Lynch began having concerns about their vetted star witness.

    So it would appear that this would be the “smoking gun” to say that using Page was a politically motivated tactic to continue gathering information on the Trump Campaign after their NSA access was cut off.

    The whole thing seems to be more and more the result of a corrupt Administration attempting to place the “correct” person in office to ensure the Socialization of America continued uninterrupted.

    I suppose none of that will be discussed on the “Sunday Shows” now will it??

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    • nimrodman says:

      Thx, curmudgeon, very helpful to post that.

      I think we all recalled that Page was an informant on a case that convicted some yada yada

      But it wasn’t in my memory bank that Strzok was on that case and would have been very familiar with Page being a helpful FBI informant. Any later claim that FBI and particularly Strzok later thought Page was a Russian agent become laughable.

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      • MaineCoon says:

        How is it that Strzok is involved with two different Pages? Coincidence I suppose, unless of course they are related. That would really be a coincidence.

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    • Truthfilter says:

      Strzok knew Page. How convenient. This whole Russia narrative was Strzok’s idea. Betcha Strzok knows what happened to Seth Rich, too. With the Wikileaks release of the emails, the hit on Seth Rich, and the Weiner laptop, they increasingly needed an insurance policy to protect them in case she didn’t win. The panick is in Strzoks text messages. He is at the center of this.

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      • Crystal says:

        He has allegedly known HillBilly since 1988 and was moved from the CIA to the FBI in 2009, after Bari became president.

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  33. Hmmm... says:

    This would just be the icing on the cake. It really makes a lot of sense because Steele never went to Russia and was 10 years or more removed from working there. FusionGPS works with reporters so it isn’t a stretch to assume the information flowed both directions.

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  34. MEMcL says:

    I agree that we need to financially support The CTH and Judicial Watch who are fighting their hearts out for us. On Amazon, you can designate a cause to receive a small percentage of the purchase. This is an Amazon contribution and doesn’t cost the buyer a cent. It is listed under “Amazon Smile.” Judicial Watch participates, and I have already donated $50.00 with my small purchases. Can you imagine the impact if we ALL took a minute and signed up? Sundance, does CTH participate??

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  35. phoenixRising says:

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  36. JoD says:

    I’m no Gladstone, but even I can sniff this one out.
    Unfortunately, this is a massively corrupt and illegal Cirque du Jerks.
    FBI/DOJ leak information to the media. The media dutifully reports the information.
    The FBI obtains the FISC surveillance warrant using “MEDIA” reports.
    Meanwhile, the FBI had easy access to their “asset”, Carter Page, who “volunteers” to work for the Trump campaign and they label him a “Foreign Agent.”
    For approval insurance, they hire Christopher Steele, who works closely with the Ohrs, Fusion, Coie, DOS and HER, to create “the dossier.”
    TRUMP MUST BE STOPPED!
    Disgusted yet?

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    • margarite1 says:

      I’ve never seen anything like this. Someone on this thread shared a tweet telling POTUS that these people must be punished according to the law or it will happen again. The powerful with unlimited taxpayer money are taking down citizens for no reason except to maintain their own power. The enforcers of the law are lawless. And they say they’re worried about Russia??? It’s the enemy within that scares me.

      Does Sessions know about all this or is he looking the other way?

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    • WSB says:

      How many other poisonous trees?

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  37. yzest5121 says:

    Does anyone find the pagination and disconnected, out-of-line pages suspicious? Or is it just the scanner feeder?

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  38. phoenixRising says:

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  39. phoenixRising says:

    Chill has a THREAD — click on tweet

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  40. mr.piddles says:

    Guys, I can’t even get past page effing 4.

    First, page #2. They say outright: “The target of this application [Page] IS an agent of a foreign power”. Emphasis mine.

    Second, page #4. They spell out their definition of a “foreign agent” — basically, somebody who KNOWINGLY engages in clandestine intelligence activities for a foreign power, or who KNOWINGLY conspires with others to do the same.

    Then in the very next paragraph they say: “This application targets Carter Page. [According to page #2, a known foreign agent] The FBI believes Page has been the subject of TARGETED RECRUITMENT by the Russian Government …”. As always, emphasis mine.

    How the F*CK can Page be a “foreign agent” who KNOWINGLY engaged in activities FOR A FOREIGN POWER, but at the same time be a “target for recruitment” by THE SAME FOREIGN POWER??????

    He’s either RECRUITED. Or he’s NOT RECRUITED. He can’t be both. Duh.

    WTF? Or maybe all this comes down to what the meaning of the word “is” is. As in Carter Page IS an agent of a foreign power.

    Somebody, please, talk me off the ledge.

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    • mr.piddles says:

      Possible explanations:
      1.) “is” = “may be”
      2.) “is” = “we believe it’s possible”
      3.) “is” = “in all likelihood very well may be, but we’re not 100% sure”

      Others?

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    • billrla says:

      Mr. Piddles: The ledge is an illusion. Stay planted firmly on the ground. It’s the other people who are crazy.

      Liked by 3 people

    • Tonawanda says:

      I got through 15 pages and had to stop – – complete hocus pocus and grist for the rubber stamp mill.

      They expected her to win.

      Liked by 2 people

    • margarite1 says:

      He IS an agent because he WAS targeted successfully?

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      • mr.piddles says:

        They say Page “HAS been targeted”. If he was recruited, then it should be he “HAD been targeted”, not to mention that it should make clear that not only he “HAD been targeted” but that the targeting was actually successful. IDK. Maybe I’m missing something in the text.

        Seems like 400 pages of word salad designed specifically to make things seem like there are a bunch of connections that aren’t really there and “evidence” that doesn’t really exist. I can just imagine Rubber Stamp Judge #4 thinking “Oh crap, 400 pages. You have GOT to be kidding me. I have freaking stuff to do.” WARRANT GRANTED!!! *chunk*

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        • Sassy says:

          It seems we already know that he was (had been) targeted in the case in 2013 (was it?) where he cooperated with the FBI to convict Russians who tried to target him. Therefore, imo, he was an agent of the U.S. government. I don’t see anywhere (in the unredacted portion, or course) where it’s noted that he cooperated in that other case and so, therefore, was akin to Steele as a “source” for whom the FBI could vouch. Or am I missing something in my deplorableness?

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        • Sassy says:

          Or maybe they could say that he “is” an agent of a foreign power because he’s a double agent and they know it because they put him up to it. Just speculating. Maybe he’s even an agent of a foreign power OTHER THAN the Russians. Who knows? Don’t you love the story about the Russian chippy who was arrested for her “connections to the NRA” but who actually has known and documented “connections” to Obama’s Treasury Dept.?

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    • rumpole2 says:

      I think it’s called “covering all bases”

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    • DJ says:

      “Somebody, please, talk me off the ledge.”
      ———————–
      Come on back in. I have bourbon and fake Cuban cigars. I’ll share.

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    • Concerned says:

      Page was working for the FBI, as an undercover agent 6 months before the FBI/DOJ placed a warrant on him.

      So how do you go from being an employee of the FBI to an “foreign agent” in just 6 months? I have heard of going bad but Page must have found the express lane. Or, this is pure BS from the start.

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      • mr.piddles says:

        He was just soooo obviously the most convenient “connection” to foreign intelligence. The FBI had to think for like 200 milliseconds before his name popped up in the conference room. In fact… we all know the investigation started before the investigation really started, if you know what I mean, wink wink, nudge nudge.

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  41. phoenixRising says:

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  42. phoenixRising says:

    THREAD — click on tweet

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  43. wolfmoon1776 says:

    Loved this one!

    Liked by 4 people

  44. I’m so glad there are so many “safeguards” in place so that FISA can not ever be abused.

    I’m so glad we renewed the patriot act because all of the safeguards ….

    N-O-T

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  45. phoenixRising says:

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  46. andy says:

    I expected something today…. this is more than I expected…. 17 days since Q’s last drop on the 4th. we were due. 😀

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  47. litlbit2 says:

    Question, who is responsible for the Sharpie redacted parts. One person, several persons, who approves? Names only, just the names, dates they, he or she worked. Taxpayer funds redacting not a national security issue. Need the names with all the lying it might be McCain??

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  48. phoenixRising says:

    THREAD — click on tweet

    Liked by 3 people

  49. Raj says:

    The only way these FISA judges signed off on the 10/16 FISA Title 1 warrant was that they must have been lead to believe the veracity of the “anti-Trump dossier.” So it confirms that it was indeed used as a pretext for surveillance of Page. Hope this “proof in writing” is enough to demolish all kinds of narrative that the dossier wasn’t used. Not clear which version of this crap was used: Fusion GPS w/Steele-N Ohr-B Ohr-FBI or McCain’s version? I really hope this gets us somewhere. Tired of the assault on our POTUS and country.

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    • nimrodman says:

      Raj said: “Hope this “proof in writing” is enough to demolish all kinds of narrative that the dossier wasn’t used.”

      You just answered whoever it was that asked “Why is Papadopoulis the only other UN-redacted name” in this warrant?

      Papadopoulis was the excuse “it wasn’t the dossier … it wasn’t the dossier … nyah nyah !!!”

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  50. agentcommonsense says:

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    BREAKING: FBI’s FISA warrant actually cites as “evidence” to spy on Carter Page/Trump campaign “Senate Minority Leader” Harry Reid’s 2016 letter to Comey citing information he got from John Brennan who got it from the Clinton dossier — talk about circular evidence!

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