BREAKING: Dept of Justice Grants House and Senate Intel Committee Full Access To Review FISA Application…

Until today the only people allowed to review the full Title-1 FISA application were Trey Gowdy, Adam Schiff, Judiciary Chairman Bob Goodlatte and Rep John Ratcliffe.

In an interesting development, the Department of Justice has responded to HPSCI Chairman Devin Nunes notifying him the DOJ will allow all members of the House and Senate Intelligence Committees full access to review the unredacted FBI/DOJ FISA application used to gain a Title-1 surveillance warrant against U.S. citizen Carter Page.

According to CNN: ‘Separately, Justice Department spokesman Ian Prior said the department on Monday will supplement its document production to the House Judiciary Committee by producing another 1,000 pages of materials in response to a subpoena issued by committee Chairman Bob Goodlatte.’

This is an interesting development for several reasons:

♦This will be the first opportunity for House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes to see the underlying highly classified documentary evidence that underpins his FISA Memo. Previously only one majority member (Gowdy), and one minority member (Schiff), from the HPSCI was permitted to review the heavily classified and unredacted FISA application.

♦Allowing the full House and Senate intelligence committee to review the FISA application is the first step in getting the application declassified. It would be enormously interesting if the public could see the full application as submitted by the FBI and DOJ. There is a significant public interest in knowing exactly how strong the underlying evidence was for the FISA Court to grant such extensive surveillance authority.

♦There has been some discussion of a possibility the FISA application held by the Department of Justice, and used to structurally create the Nunes memo, may not be the same FISA Title-1 application held by the FISA Court per Presiding Judge Rosemary Collyer. Judiciary Chairman Bob Goodlatte has requested the FISA Court application. That issue remains unresolved.  (link)

If, and this is a big “if”, there are actually two versions, the consequences are astronomical. Almost immediately Loretta Lynch, Sally Yates, James Comey and Andrew McCabe would be indicted.

Lastly, the willingness of the DOJ (Sessions, Rosenstein) to allow expanded access to the FISA application, at the same time the IG has expanded his investigation therein, would indicate IG Michael Horowitz and Federal Prosecutor John Huber have completed their review of the evidentiary weight therein…. and this release exactly backs up what we previous noted:

Horowitz was not announcing this investigative avenue from a position of only just now starting to gather evidence; he already has the evidence. He was announcing the context for him to drop a report summarizing findings of content from the investigation; a report that has nothing to do with the original launch of the OIG investigation.

In essence he announced the need to write a report based on investigative material he has already gathered. Horowitz already has the FISA material, he needed a reason to include it.

 

…. Or, Huber/Horowitz could also be setting a trap.

“WHY” – The first video highlights the historic backdrop of DOJ/FBI FISA court abuses:

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“HOW” – The second video highlights the specific example of how the DOJ and FBI used false information to the FISA Court to secure a fraudulent ‘Title-1’ surveillance warrant:

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“WHO” – The third video highlights who the primary players were within the scheme:

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755 Responses to BREAKING: Dept of Justice Grants House and Senate Intel Committee Full Access To Review FISA Application…

  1. snellvillebob says:

    I am not in a position to regret this so I will say it. If you are notified you are about to be questioned by the FBI or DOJ should you decline saying that your mother taught you not to associate with criminals? We don’t know who the all are because Sessions, Rosenstein Horowitz and Huber will not tell us. No one has been indited suggesting the fix is in. No one has been fined or gone to prison for their treasons. We know they alter 302s, lie to judges, Congress and each other.
    I do think this is grounds to stop any interaction with those two agencies, forever if the deep state can drag this out indefinitely. But at some time, everyone has to stop paying attention to them, thus taking away their power from a local level. There will be lumps no doubt, but we can win this.

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    • G. Combs says:

      snellvillebob says:

      “… No one has been indited suggesting the fix is in….”

      The statute of limitations runs until an indictment or information is found and returned to the court […] https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RL31253.pdf

      Second, since October of last year a YUGE number of SEALED indictments have been laid before the courts.
      How many are normal? 1,077 per 2009 report: https://t.co/6FLi08GHGx #SealedIndictments pic.twitter.com/U2rPpYsbs8

      ⚖️ In 22 days in November — 4,289 sealed indictments

      ⚖️ In the next month, December the number MORE THAN DOUBLED to over 9000, an increase of over 4,700.

      ⚖️ By January 28, 2018 there were 13,605 sealed indictments. Again an increase of over 4,600 in a month.

      ⚖️ And another treeper reported over 18,500 sealed cases were filed as of March 1.

      ⚖️ 6,034 new from 3/1/18 to 3/31/18 OR

      ⚖️ 24,544 new sealed indictments entered from 10/30/17 thru 3/31/18

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      • testpointwp says:

        We just need two sheets of paper –
        “if”, there are actually two [FISA warrant] versions,”

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        • G. Combs says:

          Do not forget the Drug Running, Human Trafficking, Sex Slavery and Murder for Hire the Elite have their fingers in.

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          • RAC says:

            Yes and every one of those has the potential, in trying to lessen their sentence, of giving information on persons as yet unknown or extra evidence on ones already in the net.

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          • eagledriver50 says:

            And don’t forget…BACKPAGE.COM HAS BEEN taken down and the 5 fellows running are in lockup!!! ‘magine That!!!

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          • cali says:

            @G. Combs: Yes and as horrifying this subject is and how deep that depravity goes it will shock anyone beyond conscience. But that must take place despite the horror but so as to make it impossible for anyone to ever do such a thing again.

            The Q-team this past weekend alluded and began dropping intel: The underground lay-out on Epstein’s Island, the 16 bedrooms via the pics and recording made by the intelligence services in the military and NSA.
            The pics dropped and anons digging ended in results so evil, so depraved and so shocking the those strutting around in front of our noses in full view as though they are holy is unbelievable. Yet these monsters make movies people see, run for president, have been two-term president, sitting in the highest offices in the land and more all-the-while they are worshipped by media and supporters across the country.

            I leave at that and if you or anyone wants so see evil at work go and take a look. I must warn though: You can never unsee these pics and what takes place there.
            It also explains the agenda of the open borders that serves as their ratlines to steal and traffic children.

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        • Owl says:

          I don’t understand why 2 documents. That would seem to suggest they differ in the first place. 🤥

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        • cali says:

          @testpointwp: Sundance’s instincts are always spot on ergo my mind tells me there are indeed ‘two’ different versions.
          These people are beyond dirty and nothing is beyond their realm to lie, steal, cheat and murder.
          Considering Brennan’s and the rest of these plotters apoplectic behavior and frothing out of their mouths tells me that Sundance is over the target!

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    • Johnny says:

      Yes we will get lumps for sure. But do you Love your country? Do you still get chill bumps when you Taps, or the National Anthem played? If you answer yes, then you are my brother or sister in arms. The only way this gets better is if we the people force it to change. We have to do everything humanly possible on the civil side first. The second step is either capitulate or fight.

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  2. spinoneone says:

    Trust but verify. It is critically important that the version of the request for a warrant held by the FISC be released as well. If they are not word for word consistent, heads must roll!

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    • joeknuckles says:

      I don’t think there is an existing mechanism for the court to release it. That’s why the push to make DOJ version public. The judge could then compare the two. That assumes the judge is honest. Perhaps Chief Justice Roberts can look at them, too. That assumes he is not compromised, which is an open question.

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    • Do you suspect the DOJ version has fake evidence added in? I’m confused about this two different applications theory… I think this stems from when Congress asked the court for a copy because DOJ was stonewalling…

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      • Patsy says:

        Congress thinks they got a “different” version from the DOJ. They sound pretty confident that the documents don’t match up. “GITMO is open for business,” PDJT at the SOTU.

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        • Newhere says:

          I don’t think Goodlatte thinks Congress got a “different” version from the DOJ (the DOJ, after all, is the keeper of all versions). Rather, isn’t the implication that Goodlatte suspects DOJ submitted to the FISC an application that contained outright fabrications (in order to secure the warrant)–then gave Congressional members a “scrubbed” version in order to hide the fraud? Better to be called out for weak evidence and morally-questionable obfuscation than for manifest, deliberate lying. This would mean the Nunes memo is based on a sanitized version of what was given to the court.

          You can see how it would happen: even if DOJ factored in the possibility of Congressional oversight on the application, they assumed they would be in control of the information and could therefore ensure that Congress, like the court, had no facts upon which to dispute what was presented. It simply was never fathomed that the dossier would be exposed and the fraud in the application would be manifestly obvious.

          Backed into a corner, DOJ manipulated “compartmentalized information” yet again–i.e., gave different versions of the FISA application, knowing that Congress members and the FISC would never be able to see and compare their respective versions, and would assume them to be one and the same. Goodlatte is now calling the raise, trying to force a card flip. We pray he succeeds.

          Any which way, one of three realities is inescapable: either the FISC authorized a warrant on “salacious and unverified” information (revealing gross abuse of power and a fatally flawed system), or it authorized a warrant based on a fraud perpetrated by the highest, most insulated offices of power to cover up pervasive Constitutional violations and to manipulate the U.S. presidency. *Or*–we never find out, thus revealing that we live under a bureaucratic-administrative state whose rule of law serves order but not justice, corrupted to the core and too big to fail.

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          • rogerdat says:

            If DOJ’s version contained fabrications versus the one that was presented to members being ” scrubbed, ” how could the two be the same? The document had to be altered.

            which one did Goodlatte, Schiff, and Gowdy view, what makes members think that the possibility of an altered document exists? Perhaps a cooperating witness…………or a savvy prosecutor.

            very foul odor emanating from all things FISA, listen to Brandeis’ maxim. Shine a light on the proceedings, the process has been hijacked.

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            • Newhere says:

              Right–under this scenario, the two versions are NOT the same. The theory is that DOJ fed lies to the court (because when it tried to fancy up the truth, the warrant was denied), and then altered the application when it gave it to Congress, to hide the fraud.

              (My third paragraph is speculating as to how DOJ might have thought this could possibly fly — that is, DOJ gambled that Congress and FISC never would see what the other saw, because even though both had the same access to classified intelligence information, the access is “compartmentalized” which might have enabled DOJ to manipulate it so that both would ASSUME they’d been given the same document but have now way to verify . . .)

              As to what makes Goodlatte suspect an altered application — who knows. Maybe tipped, or maybe he was stunned that the FISC authorized the warrant on such a weak application . . . which perhaps caused him to contemplate an even worse alternative: the court didn’t authorize the warrant on a weak application, but on a fraudulent one. Either scenario is REALLY BAD, and either way, you could see why he’d want to test any plausible explanation.

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  3. Boots says:

    “Almost immediately Loretta Lynch, Sally Yates, James Comey and Andrew McCabe would be indicted.”

    The Lord hates a lying witness. God will not be mocked. A man will reap what he sows. May His strong right hand wield the pen which signs the indictments.

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  4. bkrg2 says:

    Very sad that our country has come to this. Unreal how many swamp creatures will lie, cheat, and kill for the Clinton Cabal and King Obozo.
    Thankfully, we have team Trump to clean this mess up.
    Looks like the bombs are being loaded and will start hitting targets soon.

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  5. William F Buckley's Ghost says:

    Huber has to get copies of the FISA search warrant applications in the possession of the court signed and sworn to by the FBI agents. That’s the key to breaking this wide open. Now if Stroz and Page are cooperating then Huber and Horowitz already know the applications are different than the retained copies in the possession of the FBI….if the fraud is as bad as expected.

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  6. Stephen F. Paul says:

    I’m still waiting for something to happen here. The longer it goes on and I do not hear anything i wonder if it will ever happen. I’m sure all of the people involved have had plenty of time to view everything i have viewed and plenty of time to weasel their way out of any criminal liability. they have probably been working night and day with lawyers and each other developing a good cover story to counter whatever charges develop out of this,for this reason i am having serious doubts that any of these criminals will ever be held accountable. We have already seen several people walk and face zero consequences Hillary Clinton, and her staff members who broke all kinds of laws and Eric Holder who was found to be in contempt in another case and never faced any real consequences. then you have the people at the IRS who broke all kinds of laws and once again ZERO consequences. It looks more and more as each week passes that this will also be more of the same.

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    • JX says:

      I wonder if the lizard with prismatic glasses will be prosecuted before she croaks.

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    • Because I am something of a pessimistic negaholic, my default attitude is to agree with you that it seems unlikely, based on past events, that the demonic villains will get caught and brought to justice.

      However, even I have been heartened by our POTUS, Sundance and the many great commentators here at CTH which I gratefully discovered just a few months ago.

      I am trying to put aside my innate negativity and put my trust in our merciful God who has sent us President Trump and the other great warriors that are fighting the good fight against incredible Evil.

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      • Johnny says:

        The Lord is at work here. The signs are plain to see, if one opens their heart and eyes.

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        • Sneaky Pete says:

          I think that’s true too. It’s how I cope I guess. But a good and faithful Christian friend of mine reminds me to carry an umbrella if there’s a chance of rain.

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          • Johnny says:

            I believe the Lord is talking to you Sneaky Pete. The Lord is helping you cope. All you have to do is say Lord I am listening and open your heart.

            There has never been a stronger feeling in my life as the day I let the Lord in. I stood there with tears in my eyes trying to speak but all that came out was gibberish. I am a Baptist but I understand what the Pentecostals mean by speaking in tongues.

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    • G. Combs says:

      The statute of limitations runs until an indictment or information is found and returned to the court […] https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RL31253.pdf

      Second, since October of last year a YUGE number of SEALED indictments have been laid before the courts. — How many are normal? 1,077 per 2009 report: https://t.co/6FLi08GHGx #SealedIndictments pic.twitter.com/U2rPpYsbs8

      Note that the number of sealed indictments per month is INCREASING.

      ⚖️ In 22 days in November — 4,289 sealed indictments

      ⚖️ In the next month, December the number MORE THAN DOUBLED to over 9000, an increase of over 4,700.

      ⚖️ By January 28, 2018 there were 13,605 sealed indictments. Again an increase of over 4,600 in a month.

      ⚖️ And another treeper reported over 18,500 sealed cases were filed as of March 1. Over 4900 in a month.

      ⚖️ 24,544 new sealed indictments entered from 10/30/17 thru 3/31/18 — 6,034 new from 3/1/18 to 3/31/18

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      • L. E. Joiner says:

        Someone (on this board?) said that most of those sealed indictments pertain to human-trafficking investigations, so presumably not to the anti-Trump conspiracy. True?

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        • G. Combs says:

          They are all connected.

          Think MAFIA.

          What did/does the MAFIA?
          1. Prostitution (aka Human Trafficking)
          2. Gambling
          3. Drugs
          4. Protection Racket
          5. Buying of judges
          6. Murder for hire

          There is really not much difference except our Mafia is a lot more patriotic and is NOT stupid enough to kill the Golden Goose (American Entrepreneurs)

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    • Apollo says:

      I agree. I’m willing to “Trust Sessions” all day long, but this needs to happen, finally, and it needs to happen before the midterms. I shudder to think of a gavel in Adam Schiff’s hands—when he ought to have handcuffs on his wrists instead! He has clearly committed felony disclosure of classified information, for actions that were after and apart from the Hillary/Obama nonsense, and he is a key obstacle to justice. Why has he, at least, not been charged along with his leaking staff members?

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    • Bill says:

      Treason and Corruption have no time limit for prosecution.
      Also, in RICO cases, as this one will be, everyone needs to be arrested at the same time.
      There are 25,000+ sealed indictments & everyone will need to be gather up pretty much at the same time…. Things will be locked down for a while.

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  7. Johnny says:

    What I am about to tell everyone here is coming from years of experience working in SPEC OPS within our military and being exposed to the corruptness of the CIA.

    Now my point. The Coupe already happened. The People’s House has been compromised. The Senate has been compromised. Our Judicial System is compromised. The final piece was the Executive Branch Seat or as we call it the POTUS. Thank God Almighty that a wave of Patriots voted and stopped the final piece from falling in place in this Coupe.

    Barrack and Hillary used the Patriot Act Weapons, and the CIA on the Democrat Party first. For 8 years the used unmasking and contractors with NSA access to dig dirt on every Democrat member of congress and the Super Delegates within the Democrat Party. That was to make sure she was nominated by the DNC as their Candidate for President. Our governments intel was being fed to Barrack and Hillary, and they fully expected Low Energy Bush to be the candidate for the RNC.
    Low and behold the hand of God was at work and Donal Trump destroyed them evil DNC.

    Have no doubt that the DNC party now taking over by socialist had also been gathering intel on RNC members also. The wave of resignations and retirements are the fruits of this intel. I would bet that before the 2016 Election all the unmasking and spying going on was focused on the members of congress. Donald Trump nomination was a shock to these highly educated idiots behind this Coupe, hence the FISA GATE we have now. FISA GATE was a panic reaction.

    Summary. The Coupe has already happened. Every government agency has been compromised.
    Only a handful of People in Washington DC at this moment have stopped the final piece from being put in place. The DNC is in absolute panic mode. Parts of our Congress are wanting to abolish the 1st and 2nd amendments. They say it everyday openly. They are committing treason every day.

    I do not like having to say this but, I believe my opinion on this needs to be seen by everyone.

    I pray that our President, General Mattis, DIA, and our Military Intelligence can weather the onslaught. If our President falls there are 2 options.
    1. Is go along with the Coupe like good little peons.
    2. UNLEASH the Dogs of War.

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    • God is good. Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition.

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    • Remington says:

      Johnny, I believe you are correct. Laying in bed this morning attempting to identify one Gov’t agency/departments that I trust….and came up with ..”none of the above”. when I see input like this, I remember an article shown below from Pipeline…I PRAY it doesn’t come to this but..

      August 6, 2017
      Former US Marine And Navy SEAL Predicts ‘Gruesome Massacre’ Ahead If ‘Enemies Of America Within’ Try Coup vs President Trump

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      By Stefan Stanford – All News Pipeline – Live Free Or Die

      “Anti-American subversives involved in ANY WAY in an unconstitutional coup against our President will be run down and executed immediately by the world’s most supreme warriors. There will be nowhere to run to, nowhere to hide, no mercy, no sense of humor. Harsh examples will be made. My prediction is it will be a gruesome massacre.” Craig ‘Sawman’ Sawyer on Facebook…’

      .

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      • Johnny says:

        The SAWMAN is right on the money. The traitors do realize if Donald Trump is removed they will be exposed. Hence the open push to abolish the 2nd Amendment. The American People are the world’s largest army, because of our right to bear arms.

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        • G. Combs says:

          AND we are ANGRY, AWAKE and INFORMED!

          Johnny, do you remember the well buried attack by Anders Breivik on a ‘children’s camp’ that latter turned out to be a Political Camp for up and coming socialist politicians world wide? (Later billed as a ‘Labour Party youth camp’) — Think of young Hogg…

          I think that might have been a bit of a wake-up call for our Would Be Masters.
          >>>>>>>>>>>>

          What many do not realize is the British Monarch OWNS all the land in the UK, Canada and Australia. (www.businessinsider.com/worlds-biggest-landowners-2011-3?op=1 ) (Notice the article does not mention banks own a heck of a lot of the rest of the world’s land via mortgages) The Royals have been P.O.ed ever since the American Revolution that they lost Title to OUR land in the USA and have been working to grab it back ever since.

          >>>>>>>>>>>>
          A bit of history on the push for World Government some may have missed.

          Former WTO Director-General Lamy makes it that clear that an European Union like super state has been the goal since the 1930s.

          [..]Countries claim the right to use national resources as they see fit. But the byproduct can be greenhouse gases or disappearing fish stocks or raw material shortages — which impact the interconnected world we share….

          This raises a final challenge: How to provide global leadership? Mobilizing collective purpose is more difficult when we no longer face one common enemy, but thousands of complex problems
          The reality is that, so far, we have largely failed to articulate a clear and compelling vision of why a new global order matters — and where the world should be headed….

          All had lived through the chaos of the 1930s …including the defeated powers, agreed that the road to peace lay with building a new international order — and an approach to international relations that questioned the Westphalian, sacrosanct principle of sovereignty [..]

          We know from Congressman McFadden’s 1934 speech that the Soviet Revolution was FUNDED by the Federal Reserve.

          What people may not know was the Elite ran another ‘Experiment in Governance’ at the same time — The European Union!

          I see four main challenges for global governance today.
          The first one is leadership…..
          The second one is efficiency, i.e. the capacity to mobilize resources….
          The third one is coherence….
          The last challenge that I see is that of legitimacy — for legitimacy is intrinsically linked to proximity, to a sense of “togetherness”.….

          There is one place where attempts to deal with these challenges have been made and where new forms of governance have been tested for the last 60 years: in Europe. The European construction is the most ambitious experiment in supranational governance ever attempted up to now. [Interesting that he uses word ‘experiment’] It is the story of a desired, delineated and organized interdependence between its Member States….

          First, on the question of efficiency, Europe scores in my view rather highly. Thanks to the primacy of EU law over national law. Thanks to the work of the European Court of Justice in ensuring enforcement and respect for the rule of law. And thanks to a clear articulation between the Commission, the Parliament, and the European Court of Justice.
          (www.wto.org/english/news_e/sppl_e/sppl220_e.htm )

          The Transpacific Partnership was a repeat of the EU template with a Corporate Tribunal having primacy over national law. BOTH were advertized as ‘Trade Treaties’ BOTH were actually set-up to make SOVEREIGN Nation States into VASSALS of a World Government.

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          • Johnny says:

            How correct you are, the TPP was the final step in an attempt to strip the United States and it’s citizens of our sovereignty. The UniParty under Hillary Clinton would have been the final nail in the coffin. Any resistance as a civil uprising would have been stomped flat by the UN Nations and their armies. Americans would have been fighting foreign troops on our home soil. This insidious plan needs to be dealt with. We had countries that are supposed to be our allies actively working to install a candidate of their choice, not the choice of American citizens.

            I am glad to see I am not the only to see this for what it was. Make no doubt that the battle is still underway to take out the sovereignty of this amazing country. The Democrats are now nothing but the party of socialist. In my opinion the whole Democrat party is guilty of Sedition.

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          • Johnny says:

            G. Combs
            I wanted to also thank you for the extra info I was not aware of. I will read up on it ASAP.

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            • G. Combs says:

              Johnny, Read everything you can find written by Pascal Lamy. He was very high up in the EU before becoming WTO Director-General and they were floating his name as President(?) of the EU. He is also something of a blabbermouth.

              The other thing to look into is the Third Way, the newest word for Fascism. That is where we are headed and not Communism. It is a Government-Corporate control of the state.

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            • G. Combs says:

              I have had five or six references for this and google keeps taking them down.

              Straight from Fabian co-founder George Bernard Shaw

              KILLING THOSE “UNFIT TO LIVE”
              “The moment we face it frankly we are driven to the conclusion that the community has a right to put a price on the right to live in it … If people are fit to live, let them live under decent human conditions. If they are not fit to live, kill them in a decent human way. Is it any wonder that some of us are driven to prescribe the lethal chamber as the solution for the hard cases which are at present made the excuse for dragging all the other cases down to their level, and the only solution that will create a sense of full social responsibility in modern populations?”

              Source: George Bernard Shaw, Prefaces (London: Constable and Co., 1934), p. 296.

              “Under Socialism, you would not be allowed to be poor. You would be forcibly fed, clothed, lodged, taught, and employed whether you liked it or not. If it were discovered that you had not character and industry enough to be worth all this trouble, you might possibly be executed in a kindly manner; but whilst you were permitted to live, you would have to live well.”

              George Bernard Shaw: The Intelligent Woman’s Guide to Socialism and Capitalism, 1928, pg. 470

              Sure sounds like the way a farmer treats his livestock.

              And it is working:
              Peter Singer’s Bold Defense of Infanticide: Singer is the Decamp Professor of Bio-Ethics at Princeton University. ” In 1979 he wrote,“Human babies are not born self-aware, or capable of grasping that they exist over time. They are not persons”; therefore, “the life of a newborn is of less value than the life of a pig, a dog, or a chimpanzee.””

              After-Birth Abortions: College Students Increasingly Support Infanticide “… in interviews that not only do they see more college students willing to say they support post-birth abortion, but some students even suggest children up to 4 or 5-years-old can also be killed, because they are not yet “self aware.”’
              >>>>>>

              I wonder how many Blacks and Illegals would vote DemonRat if they realized what is in store for them not very far down the road once the Elite get a death grip.

              As Ted Turner, founder of CNN and the UN Foundation bluntly put it during an interview with Audubon magazine.
              “A total population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal.” – Source: The book You Don’t Say, by Fred Gielow, 1999, page 189.

              If you look at Statistics of Democide DEATH by GOVERNMENT you realize Shaw and Turner are deadly serious.

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              • Johnny says:

                You have given me plenty and I thank you. Evenings and bad weather weekends allow me a breather and a chance to read some great comments with information attached. I love to come here and try to digest the enormous amounts of REAL information that is freely shared here. I look back and laugh at the prior time I wasted going to Brietbart and trying to discuss info and all it turned into was just troll bashing were they invaded every board. Since learning of the Treepers I have never been back to the troll infested sites.

                Lots of time I just lurk (LOL). I just read the comments. So much info I do not need to post anything.

                Have a great weekend G. Combs. Hopefully I can can come here again tomorrow.

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          • Deplorable_Infidel says:

            “The Royals have been P.O.ed ever since the American Revolution that they lost Title to OUR land in the USA and have been working to grab it back ever since.”

            Dan Bongino in his radio broadcast yesterday alluded to the fact (also mentioning an article by Kim Strassel in the WSJ yesterday) that the reason the FBI/DOJ did not want to give up the original FISC document is because it directly implicates the Foreign Governments in overthrowing PDJT. I posted the link on page one of this thread.

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            • G. Combs says:

              Dan Bongino brought up one piece that was interesting there is reference to the oldest continuously occupied (?)Embassy(?) and that would be the Aussie embassy in the UK which points to ambassador Downer and George Popadopoulo. This predates George’s working on the trump campaign and indicates a Downer – Popadopoulo setup. (A relative of Downer said he is a stuck up pr..k who would not be caught dead in a lowly London pub.)

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          • gnome says:

            Not only does the Queen of England not own all the land in Australia as you assert, but we have no concept of “eminent domain” as exists in the USA, so if the government wants to acquire private land it is required to pay “just compensation”. The way that works out, if the government wants your land you have just won the lottery because they’ll be paying a lot more than you could get anywhere else. The (independently assessed) land valuation is only a part of what they have to pay to get your land.

            Anyway, aborigines now own about two thirds of the whole continent, having gained title to what we once called “crown land”, the title to which was held by the states on behalf of the people. I don’t know what the situation is in Canada or the UK, but I suspect something similar.

            If you are so totally wrong on that, what about the rest of your tale?

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        • H.R. says:

          Johnny: “Hence the open push to abolish the 2nd Amendment.”

          I’d change that just slightly:
          “Hence the urgent open push to abolish the 2nd Amendment.”

          Funny how we’ve seen an increase of mass shootings by loonies that the FBI knew about but did nothing until they ‘went off.’ And it also seems odd that their social media gets instantly scrubbed, even though the ones that are dead won’t have a trial, so there is no reason to withhold information that would taint a jury.

          It just seems to me, my opinion only, that it is imperative that citizens be disarmed ASAP if, as you say, the last piece of the coup is to fall into place. If there is no citizen resistance, a takeover would be a cakewalk.

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          • Johnny says:

            H.R.
            You are wide awake. And you understand completely what is going on. Be ready to protect your family. Stay safe.

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          • G. Combs says:

            AND many of them said they heard voices AND there is now technology called The Voice of God. Also there is the sudden new disorder called ADHD (little boys high on caffiene & sugar and no exercise) and the FORCED use of medication. Violence in Schools? It’s the Prozac and Ritalin Stupid!

            “[…]Prozac, Luvox, Paxil, and Zoloft belong to a class of drugs called selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors or SSRI’s. These drugs can induce akathisia – mental and physical agitation that sparks self-destructive, violent behavior. They can also induce dissociative reactions. The one taking the drug becomes insensitive to the consequences of his behavior.

            The combination of these effects can lead to anti-social behavior of the worst kind. In one study, 6% of the children on Prozac became psychotic (1).

            Here are the sad results. Eric Harris was on Luvox before taking part in the shooting at Columbine High School in April 1999. Fifteen-year-old Shawn Cooper fired on students and high school staff in Notus, Idaho in April 1999. He was taking an SSRI. Thirteen-year-old Chris Fetters of Iowa killed her favorite aunt. She was on Prozac. Kip Kinkel, a 15-year-old, first shot his parents, then killed two and wounded 22 fellow students at Thurston High School in Oregon. He was taking Prozac.
            Joseph Wesbecker was on Prozac when he killed seven people at a printing plant in Kentucky, before taking his own life. In September 1999, Buford O’Neal Furrow, Jr. fired 70 rounds at the North Valley Jewish Community Center in Los Angeles wounding 5 people. A month earlier Mark Barton murdered his wife and two children and then methodically gunned down 21 people in two brokerage firms in Atlanta.

            Jeff Weise was another school killer in Red lake, Minnesota. His dose of Prozac had just been increased to 60 mg daily. The story is the same – those involved were taking SSRI drugs. Since 1998, eight of the thirteen ‘school shooters’ were on psychiatric drugs. The records on the remaining five are sealed. Did the drugs cause the violence?

            Ann Blake Tracy, PhD has studied Prozac for ten years. She researched 32 murder cases involving women and their children. In 24 of the cases, the women were taking Prozac or another SSRI.

            Why isn’t this on the news? ….

            In many areas, one of every five children is labeled with ‘attention deficit’ or ADHD. The number of children so diagnosed increased by 90% between 1989 and 1996! Three-fourths of the doctor visits resulted in drug treatment. Clinical Psychiatric News, July 1998 reported that 223 children under age 3 who enrolled in Michigan’s Medicaid program before December 1996 were labeled ADHD. The author adds: “Amazingly, 57% of these children were treated with one or more psychotropic drugs including Ritalin, Prozac, Dexedrine, Aventyl and Syban. Thirty-three percent were medicated with two or more of these drugs.”

            Combining anti-depressants (Prozac or Luvox) and psychostimulants (Ritalin) increases the risk of cardiovascular collapse, seizures, euphoria and psychosis (3). Researchers at the Brookhaven National Laboratory reported that “when Ritalin was given to cocaine users, they couldn’t distinguish the Ritalin high from the cocaine high”.[…]”

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            • Deplorable_Infidel says:

              “when Ritalin was given to cocaine users, they couldn’t distinguish the Ritalin high from the cocaine high”.

              The chemical structure of Ritalin is similar to that of amphetamines, which were widely prescribed from the 1960’s into the early 1980’s.

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      • PGlenn says:

        What Craig Sawyer describes is what ought to happne under those circumstances. And he’s right that he was among the world’s most supreme warriors.

        One question I have, though . . . Would these amazing warriors have to be fully supported by, and plugged into, the other non-combat elements of the team (communications, logistics, drone operations centers, etc.) to do the job properly? And, if so, would all parts of the “infrastructure” be dependable?

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        • Johnny says:

          Special OPS soldiers are fully contained units that work behind enemy lines. They can disrupt and totally paralyze the enemy. Basically yes, they do need support. If it comes to what he is talking about, the support will be there. The Veterans of this country took an OATH to defend this country against all enemies foreign or domestic. Every state in the Union is full of Veterans.

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          • Remington says:

            Agreed….I retired at 60, and just turned 72. Have a beautiful wife and have dinner covered tomorrow. …but for what? Many of us have taken that oath. I can’t leap building in a single bound any more, but can and would offer to assist in any way – should the need arise. So what…I might not live to 75? It’s kind of a who cares….I doubt you’ll see people like Marcus Luttrell sitting on the sidelines. Where is Chris Kyle when you need him…?

            ‘Be a needed and noble effort, but you’d have to take caution against infiltrators…they’d abound..

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            • Johnny says:

              LOL
              Hell I am 53 now. My days of jumping buildings in a single bound are over also. I like you will just offer assistance and advice. Maybe I could drop a MOAB once in a while. Mavbe you are correct that us older folks might have to show the younger ones the way.

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          • Deplorable_Infidel says:

            “The Veterans of this country took an OATH to defend this country against all enemies foreign or domestic. ”

            Which is why all you guys are in an FBI database. along with NRA members, Oathkeepers, evangelical Christians, etc. Robert Mueller re-purposed the FBI from watching Muslims to watching us. FBI agents have been visiting Police Academies around the country at graduation time, handing out business cards. They ask that officers call in license plate numbers and descriptions of people displaying bumper stickers such as “3%” or “Oathkeepers”.

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            • Johnny says:

              Janet Reno under Bill Clinton started this whole mess. If you are a veteran you are a threat according to the Government.
              Our own government slapped us in the face under the worthless Bill Clinton.
              Also I will give you bonus piece of info. Osama Bin Laden was on our radar in my ex unit.
              Bill Clinton had the chance to take him out and he failed. 9/11 lays at the feet of Bill and Hillary. Bill was not the President, that power hungry witch Hillary was running everything.

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              • Deplorable_Infidel says:

                I think that list is on this site (or over at Infowars or Aim4 truth) of about 75 groups of people “targeted” as being threats to the “New World Order”. No, found it:

                http://thetruthwins.com/archives/72-types-of-americans-that-are-considered-potential-terrorists-in-official-government-documents

                “Are you a conservative, a libertarian, a Christian or a gun owner? Are you opposed to abortion, globalism, Communism, illegal immigration, the United Nations or the New World Order?….”

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                • Johnny says:

                  I fall into to their so called threat realm several times. LOL I must be real terror to their plans.

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              • Deplorable_Infidel says:

                “Bill Clinton had the chance to take him [Osama Bin Laden] out and he failed. ”

                I heard that, but it was never revealed who exactly could have done that. It would not have even been necessary, if we would have minded our own business and stayed out of the middle east.

                Ten years after the first gulf war, it was revealed that Bin Laden met with the Saudi King and wanted to kick Saddam out of Kuwait with his men, not using Western help. Because the Saudi King was buddies with GHW Bush, Bin Laden was overruled. That is what infuriated him, because us western infidels defiled their precious sand.

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            • Remington says:

              WOW…I must be in there whole bunch of times. good so they can cross check the data…

              Hi guys…

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          • noman says:

            Anchors Aweigh
            And we don’t forget.
            Good thing they never taught us how to turn the training “OFF”.

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    • Let slip the dogs of war!

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    • Deplorable_Infidel says:

      ” The People’s House has been compromised. The Senate has been compromised. Our Judicial System is compromised. ”

      It is all laid out here by a CIA whistle blower in a video seminar and book:

      https://www.fortheloveoffreedom.net

      The Shadow Government is a system that manipulates Washington, DC behind the scenes, that operates beyond the control of Congress, that even dictates the actions of the president and affects the daily lives of every American. It is real and has been growing in complexity for over sixty years. While the American people work long hours just to survive and make ends meet, the Shadow Government spends billions of dollars on secret operations, overthrowing governments and engages in covert wars that kill thousands – all without any vote or say by the American people; the people that pay the taxes the Shadow Government uses to fund these operations.

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      • Johnny says:

        Bingo.
        While we slave away to make ends meet they have silently taking our tax money and used it against us to further enslave us to this socialist perverted new way of reading the constitution. The first to fall was the Judicial Branch and they have been perverting our laws for years.

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    • Deplorable_Infidel says:

      You can start with these:

      https://nationalsecurityaction.org/who-we-are/

      We are American traitors—former senior officials and policy experts, academics and civil society leaders—who have seen first-hand how the United States is weaker, a more dangerous place to live and more reviled in the world when we stand strong with our allies -the neocons and global oligarchs – to pursue corrupted diplomacy, and stay true to the values of Progressivism that have long defined Socialism at home and abroad.

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      • Johnny says:

        Thank you Deplorable.
        It is funny that a word meant to describe a worthless person has now become a symbol of hope. I am a proud deplorable now also.

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    • Guy-Blanc Déploré says:

      We all know how great SD’s content is, but your solid and well stated post and the extensive number of excellent, informative replies it generated showcase the awesomeness of the comment section in the best way possible.
      This thread gets a bookmark of it’s own.
      Thanks, Johnny and everyone who participated. 🙂

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      • Johnny says:

        Wow. Thank you so much for the praise. I do not have a encyclopedia of knowledge but, I do have experience in the Special Ops arena. The replies and discussions on here today were filled with vast amounts of info that everyone has learned thru the years. That is what is great about the Treehouse. Everyone is happy to share their knowledge with you. Sometimes I get in the weeds but, someone
        will most likely show me the path again, and they do it respectfully.

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    • powderdayrules says:

      Johnny, please continue to post your thoughts as your inside perspective is greatly appreciated.

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  8. Collateral Justice says:

    Is this like admitting that Trey Gowdy had full access to the criminal behavior of his charge (the purse strings) and sat on it for over a year? As in aiding and abetting criminal acts of Espionage and Treason?

    Yes Virginia, Trey is a “manufactured” creature of the DC Swamp rats.

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  9. TaterSalad says:

    Gowdy? All talk and no results! Period!

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  10. HickTick says:

    This is what I think , Bruce Ohr and his bride were shown pictures of the Rosenbergs who got the electric chair and that is the reason he has been demoted twice , but he has been interviewed 12 times that are on record . His wife was moved from the CIA over to Fusion to work on the dossier ., There is nothing those two didn’t know about the whole conspiracy going all the way to zero . I will bet they sang like Opera stars when faced with the picture of a jail cell in their future ., They handled all the Intel from CIA / FBI / State dept. / DOJ ,.

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  11. Leapin says:

    Seeing all the spin from the MSM about the movie “Chappaquiddick”, an event almost 50 years ago, I can’t imagine the contortions that the MSM will be doing over the current corruption being revealed.

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    • pursang says:

      Maybe there will be a wave of retirements from the media so they don’t have to explain their opinions and reportage that helped cover this all up for so many years.

      Remember that idiot Maxine Waters’ statement about Obama being so smart to have a database of information on anybody? It’s probably why all of the CBS/NBC/ABC/MSNBC/CNN and WAPO/NYT reporters suppress the real news – they have something on them also.

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  12. Carolyn says:

    It’s high time for America to have transparency related to all this lawlessness. We the People want Justice. No one is above the law of the land. If indeed guilt is proven… prison is where all involved need to be.

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  13. DDrake says:

    If Horowitz is SES, which word has that he IS, then he is ALSO a CRIMINAL that is working to SUBVERT Justice. Every SES member needs to be charged with TREASON and sent to prison for life or EXECUTED. How much has he obscured and covered up with INTENT? Enough to HANG him?

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  14. AH_C says:

    Ready for the showdown

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  15. Jane Smith says:

    Nothing will happen…
    The Deep State will keep on keeping on…covering for one another.

    Consider Gowdy saw the unredacted FISA application and then, decided to retire from politics.
    He must be compromised.
    How could he find no wrong doing with the Benghazi investigation?
    The funneling of arms from Libya to Syria alone was wrong doing.
    He doesn’t want to lose his Congressional pension and is changing jobs to protect it.

    The finding of 2 different FISA applications requires that Judge Collyer prove it.
    Why should she?
    That would open a can of worms and possibly destroy the FISC.
    She would be out a job.

    Roberts could step in and do the same.
    He has already been shown to be compromised by his Obamacare decision.
    He would be out a job.

    They are all in it to protect their jobs and pensions.
    Nothing will happen.

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    • Stormyeyes says:

      The ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATION may be the key. FISA applications may be sent electronically now . The old days look so much safer now…………when files had to be secreted because there was no internet!

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  16. Sneaky Pete says:

    Well at least we kind of now know that very very soon, either the bad guys are going to lose in an amazing way that we haven’t seen for 50 years in this country, or we are. Either way, glad the Battle of Stalingrad II is nearly over and we’ll soon know who is going to win this war.

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  17. Mr. T. says:

    I am trying to keep the faith in AG Session, but it’s getting harder and harder. There’s quite a bit of pressure being put on him to appoint a special counsel, and I hope the pressure continues to build until he does appoint one. Too much time has lapsed for charges that could have been brought, especially against Hildabeast, but the statue of limitations has already been reached on many of them. I’m tired, angry and frustrated, watching the clock run out. AG Sessions needs to pick up the pace, appoint a special counsel, and also intervene with Mueller to limit the scope of his investigation to cover the 2016 election only. He also needs to relieve Rosenstein of his Mueller oversight because of Roddy boy’s conflict of interest issues with that investigation, especially since he signed off on at least one of the FISA warrants.

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    • NC PATRIOT says:

      We don’t need a SC. A SC would have to start ALL OVER with the evidence gathering etc. Huber and his group can indict and prosecute—and they have been evidence gathering for 6-9 months already.

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      • Mr. T. says:

        NC Patriot, this thing has moved very slow under Sessions. He needs to get more involved and get the pace picked up. Rosenstein also needs to be gone. I don’t trust that weasel as far as I could throw him.

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    • WES says:

      Frustration seems to be very common. From what SD has posted so far appointing a special prosecutor is likely a last resort. The preferred method is to keep things within the DoJ so a leak proof ship can be run. Ironically the lack of leaks besides driving the guilty crazy seems to be doing the same to us too! It is likely the price we have too pay to ensure justice is served. I think Trump believes justice like revenge is a dish best served cold!

      If a special prosecutor is appointed then things will become political very quickly likely leading to unsatisfactory results. Trump probably wants to prevent the Dems from being able to say this is a Republican witch hunt and organizing mass demonstrations like they did during the 2016 elections.

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  18. KBR says:

    Lots of doom and gloom here.
    While I agree with most of what has been said on this page, I believe that we WILL overcome it.

    One way or another, dogs of war or not.

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    • Johnny says:

      I pray we overcome it also KBR. I just wanted to put out some info, and yes it is gloom.

      I do not want to loose the dogs, but in a nutshell we have 2 options if or President is removed.
      Go along with coupe like spineless jelly fish or show the backbone that built this great nation.

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      • Tom says:

        Many seem content to win this war at their keyboards with the “Trump has this” mentality. The participants in this coup are well known as well as their actions. If the investigators don’t know the full scope of the surveillance, unmasking and attempts to cover it up by now something is terribly wrong.

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        • Stormyeyes says:

          I agree. The “Trump has this” mentality only works with us calling our elected officials daily, and doing more than watching.

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  19. Zippy says:

    “If, and this is a big “if”, there are actually two versions, the consequences are astronomical. Almost immediately Loretta Lynch, Sally Yates, James Comey and Andrew McCabe would be indicted.”

    And here’s WHY there’d be two versions. Dan Bongino apparently hasn’t been reading my emails to him or he would have come to the conclusion last month which he only just now did in his most recent podcast: Trump and his campaign were spied upon via ILLEGAL use of Five Eyes and its associated ECHELON program. THAT is what they don’t want to reveal and there is probably information within the ORIGINAL FISA application which would lead to the discovery of THAT -IF- the right questions were asked.

    “***” emphasis in the following is mine.

    Robert Peter Hannigan

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Hannigan

    Robert Peter Hannigan CMG (born 1965) is a senior British civil servant who previously served as the Director of the signals intelligence and cryptography agency the Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ). He announced his resignation as Director on 23 January 2017.[1]

    On ***23 January 2017***, Hannigan announced that he had decided to resign once a successor to his role as director had been found, explaining in a letter to the Foreign Secretary, Boris Johnson, that his resignation was for personal reasons.[50][51]

    Five Eyes Intel Sharing Unhindered By Trump Tweets
    FEBRUARY 20, 2018

    https://www.thecipherbrief.com/five-eyes-intel-sharing-unhindered-trump-tweets

    Robert Hannigan, former Director of GCHQ: “As for monitoring each others’ areas, this is an accusation which Snowden tried unsuccessfully to pin on the SIGINT community. It is nonsense and explicitly forbidden as part of the Five Eyes agreement. Both in law and policy, SIGINT agencies must respect their own legal framework and those of their partners. They cannot be used to get around others’ legal constraints or do what would be unlawful for a partner agency. A number of parliamentary and oversight inquiries in the UK have confirmed that this has not happened.”

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    • Zippy says:

      Sputnik News has Russian connections:

      ‘Five Eyes’ on Trump? What is Known About World’s Most Powerful Intel Alliance
      06.04.2017

      https://sputniknews.com/world/201704061052366879-global-intelligence-alliance/

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    • Deplore Able says:

      Interesting note: Trump is inauguration was on Friday January 20, 2017. Hannigan resigns the following Monday. Of course, that might just be a coincidence.

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    • Deplorable_Infidel says:

      “Dan Bongino apparently hasn’t been reading my emails to him or he would have come to the conclusion last month which he only just now did in his most recent podcast:”

      Dan Bongino does read (or his wife does) his e-mails. What he does NOT do is go on the radio and blab all over the place about something the first time he comes across it in an attempt to preempt everyone else (and often make big mistakes). Instead, he checks out things for himself and gets verification from multiple sources, if possible.

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      • Zippy says:

        I’m not so sure he is reading them since I very strongly disagreed with him on his tariff opinion in my first email to him, the only one he’s ever replied to (negatively and in a way that indicated to me that he hadn’t even read it – it wasn’t short, but any proper disproof can’t be). I pretty much laid to waste the MYTHICAL FREE MARKET bologna in exactly the same way that Sundane later wrote an article about here and followed it with other emails reinforcing that view. I think he may have become bored of reading them because he hasn’t altered his view on tariffs much as far as I can tell.

        His recent epiphany on the ECHELON abuse issue (he hasn’t specifically mentioned the program name possibly because it’s one of those CONFIRMED AS VALID former conspiracy theories) came from a recent article where it was mentioned that text messages between Page and Strzok indicated that Strzok traveled to London in early August to interview a key witness in the FBI’s Russia investigation just days after the probe was opened.

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    • Deplorable_Infidel says:

      “A number of parliamentary and oversight inquiries in the UK have confirmed that this has not happened.”

      I am not taking their word for it.

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  20. J.W. Lee says:

    I surmise the IG “Report” release is forthcoming concurrently with indictments to coincide with full committee review of the pertinent FISA documents…and subsequent public release to support the reestablishment of “Justice”. Perhaps…on Friday the 13th?

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  21. G. Combs says:

    Stephen F. Paul says: “I’m still waiting for something to happen here. The longer it goes on and I do not hear anything i wonder if it will ever happen.”

    It occurs to me that what President Trump is doing is equivalent to trying to coordinate a 16 course dinner so it all comes out perfect, hot and on the table in time.

    He has to slam the Chinese in trade, get the Norks to the table, untangle the mess in the Middle East, deal with Europe and the Russians AND GET TROOPS HOME!

    He now has the excuse to get the National Guard activated and on the southern border. He MUST then DECREASE the number of troops overseas, bringing them home to take the place of the National Guard who then have to be available to quell riots country wide when this all breaks wide open.

    Talk about a JUGGLING ACT!!!
    ….

    Mean while the left is getting THEIR troops, MS 13, Drug gangs, Islamic Jihadists, ANTIFA and BLM ready to destroy our cities and cause enough chaos that they can follow the tried and true Communist play book (THIS is SOROS PURPLE REVOLUTION!)

    William R. Russell was in Russia soon after the Bolsheviks seized power and spent considerable time there, working on Creel propaganda against the Germans, for the Bolsheviks, and later against the Bolsheviks. Russell described how he saw the communist tradecraft:

    The way they worked their way to the seizure of power was as follows: Talk about peace, talk about social equality, especially among those most oppressed. Talk about organization of labor, and penetrate into every labor union. Talk on soapboxes. Publish pamphlets and papers. Orate and harangue. Play on envy. Arouse jealousy. Separate class from class. Try to break down the democratic processes from within. Accustom the people to picketing, strikes, mass meetings. Constantly attack the leaders in every way possible so that the people will lose confidence. Then in time of national peril, during a war, on the occasion of a great disaster, or of a general strike, walk into the capital and seize the power. A well-organized minority can work wonders.

    Willing Accomplices: How KGB Covert Influence Agents Created Political Correctness and Destroyed America by Kent Clizbe

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    • Deplorable_Infidel says:

      “(THIS is SOROS PURPLE REVOLUTION!)”

      What color was Bill and Hillary Clinton wearing AFTER the election of PDJT?

      There have been an awful lot of men wearing purple ties on FNC/FBN since the election. I sure hope they were only doing it because they thought it was trendy.

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    • noman says:

      Yup, it’s a yuge plate full to the rafters.

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    • Deplorable_Infidel says:

      ” after the Bolsheviks seized power and spent considerable time there, working on Creel propaganda against the Germans, for the Bolsheviks, and later against the Bolsheviks. ”

      Guess who else was involved? Does the last name look familiar?

      Jacob Schiff in Russia as a revolutionist
      What was he doing there??

      https://ellacruz.org/2018/01/21/878/

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  22. Deplore Able says:

    Someone mentioned above that the DOJ letter announcing release of the FISA warrant application was not signed by Rosenstein. It is signed by Stephen E. Boyd, Deputy Attorney General.

    Who is Stephen Boyd? He is the DOJ official who wrote the January 24, 2018 letter warning that the release of the Nunes Memo would be “extremely reckless” without DOJ and FBI opportunity to review.

    Link to the letter is here: http://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2018/images/01/24/nunes.letter.pdf

    Boyd’ January 24, 2018 letter lists some reasons why release of the Memo could be damaging, including the following:

    “Given HPSCI’s important role in overseeing the nation’ s intelligence community, you well understand the damaging impact that the release of classified material could have on our national security and our ability to share and receive sensitive information from friendly foreign governments.”

    It is important to note the DOJ had not seen the Memo prior to Boyd’s letter. The DOJ didn’t know whether the Nunes Memo included information shared by friendly foreign governments.

    There is speculation above in this thread that the FISA Warrant includes information the FBI had received from intelligence services in the United Kingdom. Something tells me this speculation is right on the mark. Boyd’s January 24, 2018 letter is evidence that the DOJ was worried about any release of information shared by friendly foreign governments.

    Somehow this is no longer a concern for Mr. Boyd, as DOJ now is willing to release the full FISA Warrant Application. Has DOJ given in to the inevitable? The snowball rolling down hill can’t be stopped. Crap, prepare to hit fan.

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    • Zippy says:

      Dan Bongino’s latest podcast where he espouses this theory about why they are so reluctant to provide requested documents. He doesn’t mention the two different FISA warrant applications rumor which, if true, would make it even more likely that I and he are correct.:

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    • Zippy says:

      BTW, if he and I are correct, and I’d bet dollars to donuts that we are, the fact that they spied on Trump -ABSOLUTELY PALES IN COMPARISON- to the potential confirmation of something that Snowden and many others have warned about for many years – the use by members of Five Eyes countries of intel obtained by another country TO BYPASS THEIR OWN NATIONAL LAWS. This abuse could so easily be “excused” through some “accidental” failure (wink-wink) to redact names and then using back-door means to use that information which should have been discarded by law.

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      • Zippy says:

        And here’s exactly how they’d use that info without revealing its illegal source to any court. It’s called “Parallel Construction” or, more clearly, coming up with a backstory (lie) to provide a LEGAL path to have credibly obtain the same information which was obtained ILLEGALLY.

        Dark Side
        Secret Origins of Evidence in US Criminal Cases
        Jan 9, 2018 – Human Rights Watch

        https://www.hrw.org/report/2018/01/09/dark-side/secret-origins-evidence-us-criminal-cases

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        • Deplorable_Infidel says:

          “It’s called “Parallel Construction” or,”

          Or “they plant “child porn” on your computer. I posted about that one or two weekends ago with links about the story in Albany NY sex rings mentioned on a thread. One wealthy guy was able to prove he was framed. It cost him $250,000 to stay out of jail.

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      • Stormyeyes says:

        I agree Zippy. We know that the UK and Australia have their fingers in this dam. That is why it is harder to unravel and hard to imagine than most realize…….

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  23. Neuter Rosenstein and let the chips fall where they may. He is “detrimental to the good will, morale and discipline of the Justice Department” and should be removed post haste.

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  24. Hello,

    This is my first time posting here and want to say this is the most informative site to gain an understanding of the issues surrounding the attempted coup of our President out there. I find it frightening the magnitude of all of this and hope Sessions is up to the task. I have to believe this will all work out and the country will be better for it. I am 69 years old and never voted in a Presidential election until now and if it was not for Trump I would not have voted. I fear if Trump fails our country will never get over what has happened. These are perilous times for our Country. God bless you how do I say this Mr. Sundance.

    Tom Dunkle

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    • RedBallExpress says:

      Great post & welcome to the CTH!

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    • noman says:

      Hello and welcome aboard.
      I was was thinking pretty much the same when I discovered “Sundance”.
      And just lurked for several months. Reading everything he posted including all links
      and the helpful folks responding. Comparing it to my research. I have gained some new perspectives and insights. And the banter is great. Theres a lot to be said about shooting the breeze..
      It was work that I enjoyed. Because finally I had found the source. That is sorely lacking in the web.

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    • V says:

      Great beings find each other in the most delightful way : )

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  25. Joan says:

    Great summary of a very convoluted & sinister plot. Each video was a great recap! A must read/watch! Thanks! ✌️🇺🇸

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  26. Trent Telenko says:

    Don’t lose hope.

    I wrote the following on the chicagoboyz web log in February 2018 about the Nunes memo and what PRes Trump was up too —

    https://chicagoboyz.net/archives/56761.html#comments

    The Nunes Memo and the Defenestration of The Deep State

    The American Republic is about rule of law through constitutional process.

    Publicly exercising those atrophied constitutional process muscles is another “American Heritage Pheromone” which will hearten and increase the size of Trump’s governing coalition while disheartening the Left, which hates America.

    And Trump is not taking his time on process because he loves constitutional process for its own sake. There are structural reasons. He is multi-tasking like mad on every front — cultural, economic, political and national security. Plus major Federal espionage investigations that can survive real court challenge without spoiling sources and methods of intelligence — investigations of the type the Chairman Nunes and Inspector General Horowitz have kicked off — run a minimum of a year and usually closer to two.

    Additionally, this isn’t a foreign espionage case. It is more akin to a major organized crime family case with a huge amount of political corruption and with an ideologically aligned national-corporate media support wing we have never seen before in such cases. The Federal prosecutor hand book is getting 10 new chapters for political & media corruption.

    That said, the major behind the scenes investigative phase of this process is over. What is happening now is a choreographed dance of Federal proprietorial pressure on the primary Deep State suspects while they are under surveillance to get the small fry to roll over for the big fish.

    The signs and portents make clear Trump is running on a political-judicial process time line which will see many big fish in the FBI & DoJ indited and given very public hand and leg maniacal ‘perp walks’ in September 2018.

    Another and related “multi-task for instance” here is Trump is party building like mad. The mass turn over of the GOP in the House is a purge of the sexual harassment abusers ahead of a mass release of sexual harassment pay out data by Speaker Ryan after most of the Democratic primaries are over. Likely in late August to have the maximum disruptive affect for setting up the Chairman Nunes/FISA Abuse perp walks.

    The key thing here is the President Nixon and Watergate example. The GOP did not double down to save Nixon and took the Presidency and Senate seven years later in 1980.

    The Democrats are Leftists who live inside an identity bubble. Per the SJW handbook, they are going to double down and double down some more. This is setting them up to suffer a post-1860’s generational run of being out of power as the “Party of Sedition.”

    IMO, Trump has his priorities right — the economy, disassembling the Left’s internal security state, closing the border, taking down the “Axis of Evil” abroad and re-branding/rebuilding the GOP in his populist “Heritage American” image for the long term.

    Deep State Schadenfreude & Popcorn Giggles

    Now for some popcorn eating giggles — remember that Federal proprietorial pressure template? All the Leftist Deep State perps in the DoJ, FBI and wider intelligence community are utterly familiar with it and have executed it for decades.

    They are now the “little people” they have looked down upon and despised in the Federal proprietorial pressure template. They are all now in exquisite metal agony. They know down to the finest detail what Pres. Trump is doing to them, as they are herded to jail or the gallows, ratting out friends and colleagues to save themselves.
    .
    And in jail they will all know their efforts of decades to remake America in the Left’s Utopian image will be undone, made public, and publicly despised for generations.
    .
    Enjoy the Schadenfreude seasoning for your popcorn and please try not to choke as you belly laugh at the Deep State’s coming Defenestration.

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    • Deplorable_Infidel says:

      “It is more akin to a major organized crime family case with a huge amount of political corruption and with an ideologically aligned national-corporate media support wing we have never seen before in such cases. The Federal prosecutor hand book is getting 10 new chapters for political & media corruption.”

      Thanks for sharing the excellent synopsis. I hope and pray it goes as planned and you are correct.

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    • zorrorides says:

      Trent Telenko – TY for thinking this up and writing it down !
      Zorro

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  27. Marko says:

    I just saw the guy from Judicial Watch not Tom Fitton, ….who said that Huber is window dressing and is “investigating” and its not a given that anything is going to come of his appointment. I’m not at all convinced like some of you are that anything is going to come of this unless we get an actual 2nd independent prosecutor and get indictments. Exactly why do we need an investigation to determine if laws were broken? That is obvious.

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    • L. E. Joiner says:

      A Special Counsel would have to take a while to come up to speed. Presumably Mr Huber is piggybacking on the IG’s investigation(s), and could conceivably have a grand jury already working. That he is outside of the Beltway is a good thing.

      Judicial Watch does great work, so it is a little disconcerting to hear that a JW representative is dismissing Mr Huber as ‘window dressing’. I hope he doesn’t know something we don’t. /LEJ

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    • Deplorable_Infidel says:

      “the guy from Judicial Watch not Tom Fitton”

      Your probably referring to Chris Farrell. I received my JW video updates e-mail this morning, but have not listened to any of them. They do good work, I am hoping in this case that they are wrong. With the track record of the FBI/DOJ over the last decade, it is not surprising that they hold that position. Mr. Farrell has first hand experience with FBI corruption in Texas (I believe it is the El Paso office) over the years – with nothing ever being done about it. I would be jaded too, until they prove otherwise.

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    • Mr. T. says:

      Marko, you get the prize. I saw that interview last night while Gregg Jarrett was filling in for Lou Dobbs, and it greatly concerns me. Neither Jarrett or the JW guy have any faith in Huber investigating, especially out in Utah, away from D.C., and the people he would need to interview. They even went on to say they believe that Rosenstein is pulling the strings and orchestrated pushing it out to Utah. Gregg Jarrett knows the law very well, and he’s been right about many things, and so has JW.

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  28. audq says:

    Excellent! Now AG needs to follow thru and bring charges. @potus

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  29. Deplorable_Infidel says:

    5 Things to Know About the Prosecutor Probing FBI, Justice Department Actions

    https://www.dailysignal.com/2018/03/30/5-things-know-prosecutor-probing-fbi-justice-department-actions/

    “…Sessions announced Thursday in a letter to members of Congress that, rather than name another special counsel, he has tapped Utah U.S. Attorney John Huber to work with the Justice Department’s inspector general to review multiple issues of Justice Department and FBI conduct….”

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  30. Pat Childs says:

    We keep hearing that the “rank and file” are not implicated. Nothing could be further from the truth. There is every reason to believe that the entire agency was in on the scheme and that similar schemes are played out everyday and worse. Remember the numerous bad prosecutions in Anchorage, New York, and other locales. I suspect all of the FBI is crooked, and nearly all of the DOJ. The crooked politicians wherein charges are suddenly dropped. Has anyone forgotten that the local news in Arizona said FBI agents attended the Lynch-Clinton meeting?

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  31. Stavros says:

    Comment bar should always be at the TOP of the page, not the bottom.

    I can’t WAIT to see Killary, Brennan and others in jail.

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  32. Have I told you just how much I love your work? Seriously you add the links so we can verify it ourselves. It is truly like a breath of fresh air Thank You
    A Greatfull American

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  33. BigleyAmerican says:

    I just saw this on Powerline regarding the FBI/DOJ not providing “EC” electronic communications showing the genesis of the investigation into Trump. Can someone decipher this as it relates to Sundance’s post? It seems significant.

    http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2018/04/what-is-the-fbi-hiding-2.php

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  34. Electra says:

    I wonder if Horowitz has the authority to demand to see the FISA court version of the Carter Page warrant application. If the Court’s version is different from the DOJ/FBI version, and Horowitz already knows this, then perhaps this provides an alternative explanation for why Horowitz wants to get the DOJ version before the public eye. Does this make sense?

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  35. Tim says:

    Might be getting somewhere now

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  36. V says:


    Mark Levin Interview with Sean Hannity 3-1-18

    WOW.

    So, last April 2017, Judge Rosemary Collyer was made aware of the abuses by Mark Levin’s Landmark Legal Foundation! And yet there were subsequent 90-day extensions granted on the Carter Page surveillance – either by the FISA Court or the FISA Court of Review (which has 3 judges). Either Collyer is complicit or the 10 judges under her supervision or the 3 Review judges acted without her knowledge.

    She herself signed the 26 April 2017 Memorandum Opinion and Order – 99 pages detailing surveillance abuses. Having just penned 99 pages about it, how could she send such a brush-off response to Levin?!!!!

    And per Levin, at 4:30 in the above video, on 25* APRIL 2017, JUST ONE DAY BEFORE THE 99-PAGE MEMO & ORDER, Judge Collyer wrote her response to Levin’s Landmark. Just WOW.

    *[dated 24 Apr 2017, filed 25 Apr 2017

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    • V says:

      Mark Levin: https://www.landmarklegal.org/
      Landmark’s Amicus Motion to FISA Court, certificate of service dated 20 April, 2017.
      https://docs.wixstatic.com/ugd/ff7ad7_091acb9e125b49b7b2ece39fa2ee1221.pdf

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      • V says:

        It references Carter Page and other Trump campaign team members, so it would be clear to the reader (including Judge Collyer) that this matter relates to Trump and campaign surveillance. And see in the excerpt below, the Court was clearly made aware that this was political opposition spying going on. WHY did Judge Collyer not act? Did she ever see Landmark’s Motion or did some anti-Trump clerk forge the April 24, 2017 brush-off response?

        Excerpt:

        “Landmark submits that officials within the Executive Branch have abused the judicial process, placing the integrity of this Court and the constitutional rights of individuals at risk.

        The Court should exercise its inherent jurisdiction and order the federal government to investigate fully, and the FBI to explain fully, the following questions:

        1. Have this Court’s order or orders been used by intelligence and law enforcement entities of the federal government as a subterfuge to surveil private citizens and at least one United States Senator for political purposes?

        2. Did government officials seek one or more national security surveillance warrants from this Court as a pretext to conduct an investigation for the purpose of affecting an ongoing national presidential campaign and subsequent transition of an incoming president?

        3. When applying to this Court for one or more warrants in this matter, did the FBI inform this Court that it had apparently paid some of the expenses of a former British spy who prepared the dossier reportedly relied on, in whole or part, in its application to convince this Court to issue a warrant, and that it had apparently negotiated to make further payments to the former British spy, which efforts were ultimately unsuccessful?

        4. When applying to this Court for one or more warrants in this matter, did the FBI inform this Court that the dossier it reportedly presented in pursuit of one or more warrants had originally been prepared by the former British spy for a Washington research firm conducting opposition research against the Republican nominee for president, candidate Donald Trump?”

        ________

        This is HUGE. Collyer can no longer play cute hiding behind “novel” and separation of powers. Landmark’s Motion back in April 2017 is like a time bomb about to explode now.

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        • V says:

          It is rather odd that a 70+ year old person who has signed their name many times, would have such a different way of signing their name just two days apart. The middle initial “M” is especially strange that it is so different:

          24 April 2017: See signature on pg 1.

          26 April 2017: See signature on pg 99.

          My guess is the 99-pg doc has the authentic signature. And the other one? Hmmm.

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          • V says:

            We can be kind to Collyer by giving her an out – that she never saw the Landmark submission, someone withheld it and forged her name on the rejection. Truth will out. But if she’s innocent, she’d better not be naive. With this much nefariousness going on, she cannot expect Congress to trust DOJ/FBI copies of FISA applications only. The FISA court’s files have to be compared by someone trustworthy, unless those docs have already been tampered with.

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  37. auscitizenmom says:

    “Almost immediately Loretta Lynch, Sally Yates, James Comey and Andrew McCabe would be indicted.” Yes, oh yes. This would be great. 😀

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