White House Legislative Affairs Director Marc Short Discusses Steel and Aluminum Trade Tariffs…

White House Legislative Affairs Director Marc Short appears on Fox News to discuss the Steel and Aluminum tariffs being implemented by President Trump to protect the U.S. steel and aluminum manufacturing industry.

The Wall Street antagonists together with politicians purchased by the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and K-Street lobbyists (working on behalf of Wall Street),  have vowed to fight President Trump’s trade initiatives.   The steel and aluminum tariffs are the first in a series of trade actions by President Trump that he outlined during his candidacy.

Wall Street politicians (globalists) are now engaged in a fight against Main Street economic and trade policy (nationalists). There are trillions at stake. The anger against the President over the steel/aluminum tariffs is nothing in comparison to what lies ahead; with a likely NAFTA withdrawal and other MAGAnomic trade initiatives looming on the horizon.

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90 Responses to White House Legislative Affairs Director Marc Short Discusses Steel and Aluminum Trade Tariffs…

  1. Flat-earthers screaming that we’re gonna go over the edge if we keep going like this.

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    • Linnéa says:

      People who were totally onboard the idea when Bernie Sanders promised to impose tariffs on China ‘until they stop dumping steel into the United States’ are now suddenly predicting doomsday scenarios. If President Trump says ‘stand’ people literally roll on the ground to spite him. Yes, it’s that Pavlovian. Yes, literally.

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  2. MakeAmericaGreat says:

    Sundance has it right — the backlash over the tariffs is going to seem like a speck of dust to the desert of angst that will commence once Trump pulls out of NAFTA.

    Popcorn ready for that moment.

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    • snarkybeach says:

      and it’s looking more and more like NAFTA is toast

      Liked by 15 people

    • talkietina says:

      Dust in the wind.

      I love that song. Now I am going to have to go listen to it.

      Liked by 2 people

      • MakeAmericaGreat says:

        Great song!

        Liked by 1 person

        • Cuppa Covfefe says:

          From Wackypedia (OK, I know):

          A last-minute addition to the track lineup for “Point of Know Return”, “Dust in the Wind” would also be its greatest success.

          The guitar line for this song was written by Kerry Livgren as a finger exercise for learning fingerpicking. His wife, Vicci, heard what he was doing, remarked that the melody was nice, and encouraged him to write lyrics for it. Livgren was unsure whether his fellow band members would like it, since it was a departure from their signature style. After he played the demo for the band, there was a “stunned silence” and the band asked him, “Kerry, where has this been?”

          The title of the song is a Bible reference, paraphrasing Ecclesiastes:

          “I reflected on everything that is accomplished by man on earth, and I concluded:
          Everything he has accomplished is futile — like chasing the wind!

          All we are is dust in the wind…

          Interesting that Kansas was, for a while, a Christian-oriented band … nevertheless, “Dust In The Wind” is a great tune, and well worth pondering.

          And the ostinato is riveting…

          Other accounts say that Kerry wrote the tune as a guitar exercise for his wife. That sounds likely, especially considering the chord changes as the tune proceeds… How wonderful that such a little pearl turned into a giant jewel of a tune…

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  3. soozword says:

    So over 100 Republican Congressmen/women recently wrote a letter to PTrump urging him not to impose the tariffs: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/more-than-100-house-republicans-rally-against-trump-tariffs/article/2650992.

    I can’t find a copy of that letter with signatures. We should know which of our “representatives” are on this list.

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      • Nunes, Goodlatte, Scalise, Stefanik? Am I wrong in thinking these folks would know better, or are they all purchased?

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        • Marygrace Powers says:

          MAGA-NOMICS – If you build it they will come (aboard).

          It’s a whole new ballgame.

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        • rashomon says:

          I don’t understand that list at all. What about cheating don’t they understand. Free trade is not “free” when the dice are loaded as they have been since 1970ish.

          Liked by 3 people

          • Deplorable_Infidel says:

            These people are proposing that we continue to KEEP DOING THE SAME THING!
            How insane is this?
            I called out a columnist about this two days ago. My comment was deleted (on Disqus, you have manually click at bottom of page to show those comments)


            This time I saved it with my WP program, after a time consuming well written comment about Kirsten Gillebrand did not make it past moderation (when she was apologizing for be pro-2nd amendment when she just represented a conservative rural district in upstate NY):

            :No, WE the people are sick and tired of lying pundits with keyboards, such as you are. I have been a registered conservative in NYS for over 20 years. I resent these attempts to characterize “conservatives” as being against our POTUS.

            Tariffs are mentioned in the U.S.Constitution. Your academic libertarian “free trade” policies DO NOT WORK IN THE REAL WORLD – what we have been doing for the last 30-40 years has not worked. You are a TRAITOR and a “domestic enemy” to advocate that we keep on doing the same.

            You lie by omitting key facts in your so called “opinion reporting”.


            Any nation that acts like a Chinese proxy in the trans-shipment problem will not get relief from the tariffs. However, the nations that manufacture and trade honestly will be granted tariff relief. This allows Team Trump to evaluate the origin of the Steel used by countries that want to import their finished goods into the U.S. If they are using Chinese Steel, the tariff applies. If they are using their own manufactured steel, there is no tariff.

            See how brilliantly that works?

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            • Cuppa Covfefe says:

              The “Hall” has gone all-in RINO. Sad.

              We’re seeing the wheat being separated from the chaff now…


              • G. Combs says:

                “….The “Hall” has gone all-in RINO….”

                Sundance showed commercial ‘conservative media’ is nothing but the Controlled opposition during the 2016 campaign.

                2015: This week a Salem Communications insider steps forth (via email) to affirm all of the previous reports, and add details specific to the instructions from Salem Broadcasting and Salem Communications group:

                In 2014 (sorry, cannot recall the date), Salem Radio hosted a conference call with Senator Marco Rubio to address the Gang of Eight legislation and “set the record straight.” All national and local talk hosts were urged to take part. I am one of their local hosts, and what I heard that day was troubling.

                Moderated by Hugh Hewitt, it began with Senator Rubio offering a brief explanation of the measure and why it was so very necessary. Then Hewitt opened the call to questions. There were only a few, and they were exclusively from higher-profile, national Salem personalities, like Mike Gallagher, Katie Pavlich, and Mark Davis. No local host was permitted a question. Following the Q & A, Senator Rubio was cut loose, and that’s when things got weird.

                After Rubio departed, Hewitt introduced Salem V.P. Tom Tradup, who began by saying, “Thanks, Hugh. Now, here’s how I would like our talkers to be talking about this…” I exited the call in disgust at that point and have no idea what followed.

                The effort by the GOPe to co-opt the so-called “conservative media” is real, and it’s widespread. It also makes me gag.
                XXXXXX  (name intentionally withheld by CTH)

                2016: Insider Reveals Salem Media Was Part of The Coordinated Gang-of-Eight Manipulation…

                Also a very good article on psy-ops in the Media.

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              • G. Combs says:

                There used to be 88 news media now there are six. These are the 15 Billionaires WHO Own America’s News Media Companies
                ABC News executive producer Ian Cameron is married to Susan Rice, National Security Adviser.
                ABC News correspondent Claire Shipman is married to former Whitehouse Press Secretary Jay Carney
                ABC News and Univision reporter Matthew Jaffe is married to Katie Hogan, Obama’s Deputy Press Secretary
                ABC President Ben Sherwood is the brother of Obama’s Special Adviser Elizabeth Sherwood

                CBS President David Rhodes is the brother of Ben Rhodes, Obama’s Deputy National Security Adviser for Strategic Communications.

                CNN President Virginia Moseley is married to former Hillary Clinton’s Deputy Secretary Tom Nides.
                Mary Jacoby worked with Sid Blumenthal for years at Salon. She is wife of Glenn Simpson of Fusion GPS
                ValJar’s daughter now works for CNN.

                Samantha Powers is married to Cass Sustein, a Bloomberg View columnist.
                BIAS??? WHAT BIAS???

                Nov. 2016 Sharyl Attkisson: Newsgate

                June 2013 Maggies Notebook : White House and Media: Intermarriage, Spouses, Relatives, Congress: Shushing Scandal

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                • Guy-Blanc Déploré says:

                  BOOM! Great set of posts & links, G Combs.


                • Cuppa Covfefe says:

                  Thanks Gail. We have the same problem in Europe. I’ve been *cough* sent into the penalty box at TownFakeHall because of disputing their faux-conservative views. The media are so closely controlled by the globalists, but it has been that way since the early 1800s if not earlier (I have a book of political illustrations/cartoons my Dad gave me that is appalling – Lincoln was REALLY abused, as were other conservatives in the early 1800s)…

                  Some time back “Pointy” (pointman) had a post about how the PTB would send folks to jump in on BOTH sides of an issue in order to move the entire discussion to the left.

                  I see this happening on many fora, not just about Trump et. al., but on weather fora
                  (WUWT), Chiefio, NTZ, and others. We need to keep defending our viewpoints, and fighting censorship, be it “shadowbanning”, trolling, or just the occasional trip to the bin courtesy of WP or disqus or whatever…

                  When I think of what Anthony and Climate Audit have gone through, I see the battle of which we’re a part.

                  But we are on the side of right. And we WILL WIN!


          • Kate says:

            Rashomom, remember they are politicians and cheating is their game.


          • Orville R. Bacher says:

            “Free Trade” is the same slander as “Arbeit Macht Frei”. “Free Trade” is a perverse marketing term invented to profit corrupt American politicians.


        • yy4u says:

          More than likely they listened to aides and/or donors. Goodlatte is retiring so donors probably don’t factor in. Republican establishment/politicians are knee-jerk on tariffs in that their “leaders” have sold them on “free” trade being a good thing – think WSJ — which it is — for everyone but the workers who have lost their jobs and the towns who have lost their factories. DC never had any factories or factory workers to worry about. On paper free trade looks good (hence Dave Brat’s name on there) and it is good so long as no one cheats. But we know how that works out. I want free trade, but I want it to be fair. Right now it isn’t. Besides, from a practical point of view, we can’t afford to pay people not to work especially when they’re willing to and want to which is where we were heading.

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          • Orville R. Bacher says:

            No major nation can dispense with it’s vital industries on the false promise of free trade. All other nations that want “free trade” with the United States, are bargaining for jobs in their countries. That is their only purpose. Period.


        • LEET says:

          Also on the list Jim Jordon and Mark Meadows too. I guess their MAGA only goes so far.

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        • JustinAvery says:

          I believe they are all purchased members of Congress and are protecting their war chest and kick backs.

          Liked by 1 person

        • soozword says:

          I know Nunes is a darling around here for many due to his leadership on the FISA abuse, but I’ve known him for years as an immigration sell-out to big ag. Total open borders voting record (F- grade from NumbersUSA): https://www.numbersusa.com/content/my/congress/1090/gradescoresheet/. If he can sell-out our borders and sovereignty via immigration, he will jump at the chance to do it via trade. He is definitely NOT a hero to me.

          Then there is Rep. Tom McClintock who was my Congressman for years until recently. I argued against him in a townhall where he was supporting “free trade” (loves NAFTA) and was growing enthusiastic over TPP. He was Boehner’s spokesman for TPA (trade authority). He has almost always had an A grade on immigration from NumbersUSA, conferring a more conservative voting record, but was sneaky in supporting free trade at our expense. Of course he signed that letter to POTUS, so he is being consistent on the trade issue.


          • Thank you for including that link. Excellent info on both, thank you for shining light on that for me.

            Treepers like you are why I stick around 🙂


            • soozword says:

              You are welcome! I use the NumbersUSA Congressional scores as a much better indicator of Uniparty inflence than other so-called conservative ones (eg Heritage) that score votes on a variety of issues. The more issues to score, the more likely they are going to omit some the Uniparty does not want you to know about.

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      • Summer says:

        I could be totally wrong but these people are just trying to cover their asses. We all know that there will be a period of rough weather while the economy is re-adjusting.
        This letter is their insurance policy. Can’t take responsibility now, but will eagerly take credit for any positive developments afterwards. Sigh.

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      • soozword says:

        Thanks dd!!! Very interesting list — some of our current national security heroes on that list are willing to continue selling out our future prosperity!


    • cwf60 says:

      Devin Nunes is one.


  4. Deplorable_Infidel says:

    Start writing the textbooks for MAGAnomics!

    Liked by 1 person

  5. Rex says:

    I love the smell of cockroaches being smoked out of the walls.
    It smells like… MAGA!

    Liked by 3 people

  6. emet says:

    Another point is that the amount of bond or surety must be raised on at least some commodities and in some situations because of AD and CV duties. For example, suppose Canada is exempt from AD duties as long as the steel originates in China. So we import millions of dollars in steel manufactured by X Corp in Canada. Then we find out the steel was really sourced from China and X Corp owes the US Treasury $200 million. Customs goes back to all prior entries to reliquidate them, and sends a demand for the amount owed. X Corp refuses to pay, appeals to WTC, complains to Trudeau, etc. Customs puts X Corp on sanctions, meaning they have to pay in new duties before rekease of commodity, but they are not going to pay the $200 million. Customs then goes to the surety, which all import entries must have, but the required surety amount was set at only 5% of the entered value. This means that the US can only collect a tiny portion of the debt. Nobody paid much attention to this over the past 20 or so years, snd these bond amounts have been alliwed to slip lower and lower, and decisions on these issues made at very low levels. Its going to come up.

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  7. Liked by 9 people

    • WSB says:

      So true, almost a third of my extended family worked for Bethlehem Steel. So sorry to see what happened to it.

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      • Oldschool says:

        Wsb, brings me to tears everytime I see those once manificent steel stacks rusted and cold.

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        • WSB says:

          Me, too, Oldschool! I always remember smelling the coke works when visiting our grandparents. My Grandfather worked on the GW Bridge in Bessie’s material acquisitions department when he first started out, long before the new corporate tower went up.

          It was very sad when the company filed for bankruptcy.

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    • talkietina says:

      Like Atlas Shrugged movie, except now, Atlas is standing tall.

      Liked by 2 people

    • yy4u says:

      To successfully have a “new world order”, the living standard/wages of the American blue collar worker had to be lowered and the wages of second and third world workers had to be elevated. Perot described it perfectly in 1992 when he ran for president. We didn’t listen to him and what he said would happen HAS happened. Congratulations Bush-Clinton-Bush and especially Obama who not only destroyed the blue collar working class nearly destroyed the middle class, too.


  8. highdezertgator says:

    ” Henry Clay’s “American System,” devised in the burst of nationalism that followed the War of 1812, remains one of the most historically significant examples of a government-sponsored program to harmonize and balance the nation’s agriculture, commerce, and industry. This “System” consisted of three mutually re-enforcing parts: a tariff to protect and promote American industry; a national bank to foster commerce; and federal subsidies for roads, canals, and other “internal improvements” to develop profitable markets for agriculture. Funds for these subsidies would be obtained from tariffs and sales of public lands. Clay argued that a vigorously maintained system of sectional economic interdependence would eliminate the chance of renewed subservience to the free-trade, laissez-faire “British System.”

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    • Blade says:

      Henry Clay is loosely analogous to Speaker Ryan, with Andrew Jackson playing the role of Donald Trump. What Clay did during the Democratic-Republican era of Good Feelings ( 1801-1825 when the Federalists were decimated by Jeffersonians ), and yes, he was quite a uniquely American character in this time, though thoroughly different to what happened next.

      Like Ryan who came to Washington as one of the celebrated young turks, an acceptable alternative face of the TEA party conservatives ( remember, the enemy alwys tries to pick our leaders ), he proved establishment when push comes to shove. Clay was pro-American until someone more obviously pro-American came along, namely Jackson, and then he reverted to the median and became protector of the inside establishment against the unwelcome outsider. He is the man most responsible for JQ Adams being selected President after the 1824 battle royale when the House disregarded both the popular and electoral vote tallies, though without absolute majority, and picked Adams.

      This became known as the corrupt bargain after JQ Adams picked Clay as his Secretary of State, considered the most powerful and prestigious position in our early years ( Vice President was considered a joke ) and naturally how a President marked his choice of heir apparent. This naturally set Jackson and his supporters off into a rage, and our first real example of campaigning for President occurred when Old Hickory spent the next four years planning to unseat Adams and Clay. He allied with a northern counterpart Martin Van Buren ( who had supported Crawford in that disputed election ) to form the Democrat Party and they would together dominate the White House and the government for the next 12 years, and for 4 more when Polk came to town.

      However, like so many things in American history, if we were to take infamous mortal enemies such Jefferson/Adams/Hamilton and Jackson/Clay and bring them to life in the current era of leftist war against America, all of them would be 100% perfectly allied patriots against the dark forces attacking the country. That is to say, all of their differences would be swamped ( pardon the pun ) by the swamp forces at war with us presently. With hindsight, Hamilton and Clay both represent comparatively small but critical wrong turns at fixed points in time that deviated us from the Constitutional path, but if they could see where we wound up later, well they would make amends give a chance. Small mistakes early on evolve into a massive deviation later.

      This is all the more reason to appreciate and study both Jefferson and Jackson again today ( not surprisingly both were proudly praised by Trump during early in his first year ) as these two men built their own parties to counter the crisis they saw in their times. Jefferson/Madison formed their Republican Party ( aka Democratic-Republicans, aka Jeffersonians, aka Jeffersonian-Republicans ) to counter the Hamilton/Adams/Marshall/etc Federalists, a generation later Jackson/Van Buren formed the Democrat Party to counter Adams/Clay neo-Federalists. This ever-present dynamic is still our paradigm today, except that it is Trump mostly by himself carrying the weight on his broad shoulders.

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      • zorrorides says:

        Thanks for writing, Blade. I’ve been trying to understand pre-Civil War USA, this is a big help.

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        • Blade says:

          Thanks for that. And you are focused on the correct, key point, as Pre-Civil War history is critical. And was almost written out of history by revisionists who successfully made discussion of States rights a naughty term even though it lies at the heart of everything before the Civil War.

          The paradigm of the factions splitting into parties was the most important subject until slavery came to a head with the election of Lincoln. For years, modern revisionists lied in textbooks about major things, for example calling George Washington a party Federalist ( no more than Jefferson was ), and especially with drawing a straight line connecting Jefferson’s Republican Party to Jackson’s Democrat Party.

          A lot of this happened because of the existence of the relatively recent Democrat Party sponsorship of Jefferson-Jackson Day Dinners in their bid to claim both men as their own. Jefferson and his party had no connection to Jackson’s party since both the Federalist and Republican party Congressional caucuses dissolved after the 1820 Monroe re-election, and State-based party-less coalitions began forming made up of ex-members of both and neither party ). Depending on the source, all candidates in 1824 are variously listed as no-party or Democratic-Republican, but the so-called first party system had definitively ended and was now decentralized from the FedGov capitol based successively in NYC/Philadelphia and then Washington in 1800.

          Someone called a Federalist in 1787-1788 simply meant someone agreeing with the need for ratification of the new Constitution to save the new country from post-Revolutionary-war Zimbabwe-like inflation and chaos. Despite the dangerous times their were still anti-Federalist patriots like Patrick Henry who warned of the coming danger ( at this point in time Madison was himself a Federalist as he was a key Framer of the Constitution and wrote many of the Federalist Papers to sell the thing to the public in New York and Virginia ). A mere few later years from around 1790 on, Jefferson and Madison were stomping the brakes to slow the FedGov from crashing into the trees Patrick Henry warned of and formed a party just to resist Hamilton/Adams Federalists. Someone called a Federalist in 1795 was favoring England, attacking the South, and pushing laws to increase FedGov power over the States.

          After the Hamilton/Adam’s Federalists’ Whiskey Rebellion and Alien and Sedition Acts escapades the divide was permanently cast in concrete and the 2nd Revolutionary War ( or 1st Civil War really ) occurred with the election of 1800, and Jefferson prevailed ( ironically with Hamilton redeeming himself by influencing electors to pick Jefferson over Adams! ). Jefferson’s Republicans annihilated the Federalists in every Congressional election however the juggernaut of big government would simply wait out the 24 years of relatively benign Democratic-Republican rule and steer the FedGov back onto the reef of centralized power. The Civil War as we all know would finally cement it into place, possibly forever. And we all know we certainly cannot question that lest we be called pro-slavery monsters. Even black folk like Walter Williams ( who said he will join Texas if they would leave the union! ) gets labeled a white supremacist or something.

          It is no accident that Trump has dared mention the two unmentionable ( to modern revisionists ) J-words … Jefferson, and Jackson. He is following in their sizable footsteps.

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          • TexasDude says:

            At the same time you cannot ignore slavery as it appears you are. It was part and parcel of life in the South and it helped create the factionalism that led up to the Civil War.


            • Blade says:

              At the same time you cannot ignore slavery as it appears you are. It was part and parcel of life in the South and it helped create the factionalism that led up to the Civil War.

              It was part and parcel of life over most of the planet, not just the South. And I didn’t ignore anything though you clearly missed the point of my comment which was not addressing slavery at all because I was specifically addressing things other than slavery. ( I was gonna be snarky and just say: I didn’t mention space travel or calculus either yet you didn’t miss them but you might get the point of that one either ). Anyway, slavery had nothing to do with the factionalism of the new government, not unless you somehow believe Hamilton and his allies had some unsaid, noble purpose when they began growing FedGov in all directions despite the very promises made after the Convention and even in the very Federalist Papers that Hamilton himself authored. The concept of limited government with enumerated powers is the issue here, the most important issue, and key founders like Jefferson and Madison noted this almost immediately and this is what led to their opposition party.

              Jefferson’s 1790’s-1820’s republican party absolutely did not get formed to protect slavery in any manner whatsoever ( which was not yet an issue though it was beginning to rise to the surface as northern states had begun to free their slaves by the 1790’s ). Nor did Jackson’s 1820’s-1830’s Democrat party although (D)emocrat would certainly evolve into precisely that in the late 1840’s and onward. The point here is that there is a whole history of party politics completely independent of slavery. Have you not read the Federalist Papers? This is an entire treatise of the minutiae of human organization always resulting in a People vs the State paradigm, and the steps they had taken to avoid repeating those past mistakes this time around. And it’s a marvel that they got as far as they did in a new country wallowing in post-war inflation and chaos, and awash in foreign superpowers and probably a half million slaves those very Europeans dragged here in chains.

              But what I also was getting at is the nearly perfect line between Jefferson, Jackson and Trump, particularly each of them bucking the establishment powers-that-be. The original factionalism I spoke of under Washington led directly to industrial vs agrarian, urban vs rural, internationalists vs nationalists, Wall Street vs Main Street and the ruling class vs the people. It did this incrementally with imports vs exports, taxes vs tariffs, banks vs private savings and loan and infringements on our freedom of association. Slavery had little to do with any of it. Indeed, the actions of northern industrialists and rich importers and monopolists helped to embed slavery deeper in the south in a futile effort to compete ( very similar to how “free trade” with a 3rd world low wage client like China or India forces Americans to compete by cutting costs and moving offshore or demanding subsidies to maintain profits ). So yeah, they’re intertwined and mutually exclusive at the same time. We can and must ponder the Constitutionality of government actions without indulging in judgment of the Founders using current morality because to so removes our only restraints on the government we have and any ability to correct it.

              Anyway, long post again, but a necessary disclaimer. Looking back all the way from today, the drift toward central power thanks to certain actions by certain figures pales in comparison to everything seen since the Civil War, then with the FDR/LBJ welfare state, and now in the out-of-the-closet Socialist era. Even the worst offenders during the Founding era would strap on AR-15’s today and head to the swamp for some varmint hunting. Slavery, the subject, has caused many people to un-focus on all other issues that occurred on our long path here to today, and to accept serious mistakes as inevitable, and then fail to address them out of some SJW political correctness. As Trump said, political correctness is killing us.



        Great post


  9. law4lifeblog says:

    This guy Marc Short is a rabid illegal alien amnesty pimp…..the enemy within.


  10. WSB says:

    Just look at the faces of Turtle and Company. Wow! Just wow! Sorry guys…you LOSE!

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  11. missilemom says:

    I would like to see POTUS reference to Mexican VAT explained. The EU has VAT. POTUS suggested VAT added on to trade deficit. Not sure what the scale is. If anyone has a source I would so appreciate a link.

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  12. Chris Four says:

    BUSTED: Random ‘Steelworker’ Making the Rounds for PA Democrat Lamb… IS A TOP UNION OFFICIAL (VIDEO)
    The Unions are so in bed with the Democratic Party they do not care what is good for America. They are part of the reason why manufacturing jobs left this country. They have been helping destroy America.


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    • donny says:

      It’s the same with the unions as it is with the FBI, the DOJ, the Congress, certain county sheriffs, etc., it is the very top layer (8 or 10) that is rotten, the rank & file stands ready. You can count on the rank & file in the unions.


  13. Scout says:

    Who gives a rat’s what Marc thinks, it’s done.
    As long as Mexico and Canada won’t be allowed to facilitate Chinese steel, Marc should be happy.

    Err….I did hear about some rumour of Canadian Mexican exemption. I musta missheard, can’t be accurate.


    • cwf60 says:

      You heard correctly. It is supposedly tied to the NAFTA negotiations.


      • Scout says:

        Oh geez…. the Chinese must be ecstatic.


        • donny2837 says:

          Where you from Scout? What you talking about?


          • Scout says:

            You didn’t hear Canada & Mexico might be exempt?
            You don’t know that the major form of transformed Chinese steel into the US is via C & M “transformed Chinese steel” via NAFTA?
            You didn’t know that’s why NAFTA is a corruption?

            Give me strength….


            • Conservativeinny says:

              I think it is only exempt if it is Canada’s and Mexico’s own steel otherwise the tariff is added


              • Scout says:

                Canada produces no steel of any significant volume .Pretend if you will.
                Why would Mexican dirt wage steel be approved for the US?


                • Chris Four says:

                  Algoma an intergrated primary steel producer in Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario Canada currently has a capacity of 4 million tons per year. Algoma is owned by Essar an Indian corporation. They buy iron ore and coal from the US. This is why this tariff issue is complicated.


              • Scout says:

                No it isn’t.
                If you screw with overseas raw pricing disconnections….you’ll get played by experts.
                Where is the revenue produced by sales, where are the production deductions claimed…..
                Easy peecy….not China, not india….
                Wilbur and Don get it.


              • JoAnn Leichliter says:

                Canada, to my knowledge, does not smelt steel. I could be wrong, though.


            • JoAnn Leichliter says:

              I am not sure how much steel product from Canada is made with steel from China. I think (correct me, folks) about 60% of Canada’s raw steel comes from the U.S. and about 9% from China. How much other steel they import comes indirectly from China would be interesting to know.


  14. Linnéa says:

    I’m not trolling!

    My opinion got deleted in an earlier thread on a different topic. Hopefully, the Admins will let me post my kooky ideas on this topic. I’m new so be nice.

    IN MY OPINION, free-trade agreements like TPP and NAFTA don’t make any sense. Countries like Brunei, Vietnam, and Malaysia dump toxic waste in the streets, have no regulations governing acceptable working conditions, and use the muscle of the state to depress wages. And why exactly would the United States want to give favored trading status to any totalitarian communist country? There should be high import tariffs on all products from countries that don’t have comparable environmental and labour standards, which pretty much means tariffs on every country other than the European countries and Japan.

    My opinion.

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    • evergreen says:

      Another way to think about it:
      The republican belief is that competition is good for prices and that everyone benefits; thus, they see over-the-border manufacturing in a good light.
      The problem with this is that the “competition” is not on an equitable basis. Many details, but the result is that the law-abiding US entity is forced to pay for and follow the US laws while the scoundrel crosses the tariff-free border, having evaded most of the same laws and their costs. The republicans see the consumer’s happy smile at low costs and says it’s a good thing. But, he refuses to see the law abiding getting shafted and laying off employees. In sum, it’s an equalizer of sorts: it degrades our society to eventually match that of our foreign low-cost suppliers. ???

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      • wheatietoo says:

        It’s not just the Republicans, though…there are just as many Democrats who are against the Tariffs.

        It’s the Globalist puppets in both parties who have sold us out.
        That’s who are against the tariffs and against Pres Trump’s efforts to bring back Jobs.

        Only in the minds of the Globalists and their lackeys, is Nationalism a bad thing.

        The globalist-owned media sockpuppets are also against the tariffs.
        And they are mostly all Dems.

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    • Chris Four says:

      The problem is the American consumer. They need to educate themselves about where the products they are buying come from. Complain to Nike, Reebok, etc that you want them to inspect the factories and require their contractors adhere to ethical labor standards. I would be more concerned about the farmed seafood which is imported into the US with minimal inspection.

      The wages are low based on what is paid in the US, but many of the living cost are also below the US. Their concept of a good life is way different then a Japanese or a westerns concept. Living and working on a rice farm is no picnic either.

      Please go to Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia and see what life is really like.

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  15. EddieJoe says:

    War they want, war they got! How dare they! Plus how stupid? They actually believe they can win this war of ‘words’. They don’t know war. Do they? Popcorn time.

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  16. GB Bari says:

    I have yet to hear or read a clear but direct explanation from the anti-tariff side detailing why Americans should continue to accept the gross imbalance of trade tariffs between the US and almost all other of our trading partners. No one has made any attempt to sell their preferred approach to the workers, unemployed workers, families of workers, and citizens of towns that have been decimated by the exodus of manufacturing to overseas countries. No one has tried to sell the status quo to the working class. The Globalists pushing to retain the status quo seem to take the attitude of “let them eat cake”.

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    • zorrorides says:

      The working class never had a candidate to vote for until Mr Trump. We voted for him out of hope Trump would accomplish a fraction of what he said he’d do. I think he is going to do even more good for us than he pomised.

      Think of this: Trump promised us the he would not let North Korea threaten us with nuclear weapons. What Trump will deliver is a peaceable Korean peninsula. The NK army will be defending their northern border, not the southern border. The NK people will be saved from starvation. The two Koreas will begin working to integrate NK into South Korea. The North now understands China has never been a benefactor.

      Trump supporters I’ve met always say their approval of Trump has increased from when he began the Presidential job. I can’t find a Trump voter who is disappointed in Trump.


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    • Mark McQueen says:

      Seems to me their argument is “Cheap goods at any cost.”


  17. donny says:

    We broke the light barrier boys and girls. We went so fast we got back to the beginning. Thank Goodness. Now, let’s do it right this time.

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  18. Pyrthroes says:

    Recall Henry Clay’s tripartite “American System” in ante bellum days, c. 1835 – ’60: Subsidize agriculture via transport infrastructure; add tax incentives to commercial enterprises; selectively enact protective tariffs to render domestic industries not merely viable but cut-throat competitive.

    Criticizing tariffs in principle as anti-competitive price-fixing blasts an economic shotgun vs. Trump’s deer rifle. Not Free Trade but Fair Trade is the issue, and to hell with Central Bankers from Mario Draghi down, whose soft-Soviet Maastricht Treaty of 1993 sought to abolish national currencies for purposes of baseline FX arbitrage.

    When foreign trade balances stabilize –typically to American industry’s advantage– competitors from Canada and Mexico to the EU and China will vociferously implement Trump’s policy in self-defense. This will not declare retaliatory Trade Wars, but foster rational economic nationalism on Adam Smith’s “comparative advantage” basis.

    From a peace-and-prosperity standpoint, Coolidge, Truman, and Ronaldus Magnus historically loom large… but sense is that over eight years Trump Prosperity may outdo them all.


  19. 4harrisonblog says:

    President Trump’s new slogan is “Keep America Great!” KAG!
    The VSGPJDT says KAG!

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  20. G. Combs says:

    When discusing imports and CoC do not forget all the grain storage facilities that have been removed. We now have Just-in-Time FOOD!!!!

    Want Food Security? Bring back National Grain Reserve

    USDA “Cupboard is bare”

    The 2008 food crisis was actually a set-up!

    From my research notes a decade ago:
    Amstutz was VP of Cargill. He wrote the WTO Agreement on Ag in 1995. (Even Clinton admitted that agreement lead to starvation and riots of 2008) Amstutz then wrote the Freedom to Farm act in 1996. This law was later called the Freedom to Fail act as US farmers over produced and grain prices dropped like a rock. Grain traders used the surplus of very cheap grain to bankrupt farmers around the world. This was actually a KNOWN US policy as Clinton has just admitted.

    President Bill Clinton, now the UN Special Envoy to Haiti, publicly apologized last month for forcing Haiti to drop tariffs on imported, subsidized US rice during his time in office. The policy wiped out Haitian rice farming and seriously damaged Haiti’s ability to be self-sufficient. (wwwDOT)democracynow.org/2010/4/1/clinton_rice

    Amstutz was also responsible for wiping out the US grain reserve system. How to fight a food crisis: To blunt the ravages of drought and market greed, we need a national grain reserve… the 1996 Freedom to Farm Act abolished our national system of holding grain in reserve.

    Amstutz then went to work for Goldman Sachs. This has always puzzled me until I finally ran across the last piece of the puzzle.

    That is where things get really interesting. This is stolen from WANTtoKNOW. Info: Excerpts of Key Financial News Articles in Major Media

    The first articles states:

    Commodity Futures Trading Commission judge says colleague biased against complainants

    ..Painter said Judge Bruce Levine … had a secret agreement with a former Republican chairwoman of the agency to stand in the way of investors filing complaints with the agency. “On Judge Levine’s first week on the job, nearly twenty years ago, he came into my office and stated that he had promised Wendy Gramm, then Chairwoman of the Commission, that we would never rule in a complainant’s favor,” Painter wrote. “A review of his rulings will confirm that he fulfilled his vow….

    Levine had never ruled in favor of an investor. Gramm [wife of former senator Phil Gramm (R-Tex.)], was head of the CFTC just before president Bill Clinton took office. She has been criticized by Democrats for helping firms such as Goldman Sachs and Enron gain influence over the commodity markets. After leaving the CFTC, she joined Enron’s board.

    NOW we know WHY Goldman Sachs hired Dan Amstutz!

    The second Article states:

    How Goldman gambled on starvation

    This is the story of how some of the richest people in the world – Goldman, Deutsche Bank, the traders at Merrill Lynch, and more – have caused the starvation of some of the poorest people in the world. At the end of 2006, food prices across the world started to rise, suddenly and stratospherically. Within a year, the price of wheat had shot up by 80 per cent, maize by 90 per cent, rice by 320 per cent. In a global jolt of hunger, 200 million people – mostly children – couldn’t afford to get food any more, and sank into malnutrition or starvation. There were riots in more than 30 countries, and at least one government was violently overthrown. Then, in spring 2008, prices just as mysteriously fell back to their previous level. Jean Ziegler, the UN Special Rapporteur on the Right to Food, calls it “a silent mass murder”, entirely due to “man-made actions.” Through the 1990s, Goldman Sachs and others lobbied hard and the regulations [controlling agricultural futures contracts] were abolished. Suddenly, these contracts were turned into “derivatives” that could be bought and sold among traders who had nothing to do with agriculture. A market in “food speculation” was born. The speculators drove the price through the roof. (wwwDOT)independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/johann-hari/johann-hari-how-goldman-gambled-on-starvation-2016088.html

    Here is the real attitude of these sons of syphilitic jackals:

    In summary, we have record low grain inventories globally as we move into a new crop year. We have demand growing strongly. Which means that going forward even small crop failures are going to drive grain prices to record levels. As an investor, we continue to find these long term trends…very attractive.” Food shortfalls predicted: 2008 (wwwDOT)financialsense.com/fsu/editorials/dancy/2008/0104.html

    Recently there have been increased calls for the development of a U.S. or international grain reserve to provide priority access to food supplies for Humanitarian needs. The National Grain and Feed Association (NGFA) and the North American Export Grain Association (NAEGA) strongly advise against this concept..Stock reserves have a documented depressing effect on prices… and resulted in less aggressive market bidding for the grains.” July 22, 2008 letter to President Bush (wwwDOT)naega.org/images/pdf/grain_reserves_for_food_aid.pdf

    Dan Amstutz was president of the North American Export Grain Association.

    They even named an award after the B@$t@rd!

    The Amstutz Award is given by the North American Export Grain Association in honor of Dan Amstutz and in recognition of his outstanding and extraordinary service to the export grain and oilseed trade from the United States. Appropriately, the first recipient of this distinguished service award was Mr. Amstutz… naega(DOT)org/?page_id=301

    More on Biofuel, starvation and profit:

    Biofuel starvation wasn’t “unforeseen consequences”

    The U.S. corn crop, accounting for 40 percent of the global harvest and supplying nearly 70 percent of the world’s corn imports…

    Congress required that biofuel use increase five times…

    wheat prices have tripled, corn prices doubled and rice prices nearly doubled…

    …. there were real warnings about possible starvation as a consequence of the law Sarasohn refers to [the Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007 ].

    The possible consequences were clearly communicated in a Senate briefing a week before initial passage of the Senate bill and 6 months before final approval of the final House-Senate bill. (wwwSOT)earth-policy.org/Transcripts/SenateEPW07.htm

    Here’s a bit from a June 13, 2007 Senate briefing given by Lester Brown from the Earth Policy Institute:

    The U.S. corn crop, accounting for 40 percent of the global harvest and supplying nearly 70 percent of the world’s corn imports, looms large in the world food economy. Annual U.S. corn exports of some 55 million tons account for nearly one fourth of world grain exports. The corn harvest of Iowa alone exceeds the entire grain harvest of Canada. Substantially reducing this export flow would send shock waves throughout the world economy.

    In six of the last seven years, total world grain production has fallen short of use. As a result, world carryover stocks of grain have been drawn down to 57 days of consumption, the lowest level in 34 years. (wwwDOT)earth-policy.org/Transcripts/SenateEPW07_data.htm See Data.)

    To add insult to injury Congress did not even see if biofuel actually saves on the use of oil. It does not! David Pimentel, professor of ecology and agriculture at Cornell found it takes more fossil fuel to produce biofuel than is recovered:

    * corn requires 29 percent more fossil energy than the fuel produced;
    * switch grass requires 45 percent more fossil energy than the fuel produced; and
    * wood biomass requires 57 percent more fossil energy than the fuel produced.
    * soybean plants requires 27 percent more fossil energy than the fuel produced, and
    * sunflower plants requires 118 percent more fossil energy than the fuel produced.


    Being Like Soros in Buying Farmland Reaps Annual Gains of 16%

    The Food Safety Modernization Act places US Farmers under the regulation of the WTO. The Ag cartel wants to bankrupt independent farmers and is doing a very good job of it.


    • zorrorides says:

      G Combs, thanks for your fine article. When I read something this instructive, I wonder if Sundance doesn’t mark you down to be a contributor on this topic. After all, eating food is basic to national health. We want our President Trump to rescue Agriculture as part of the MAGA reforms.

      I long for the day when it’s legal for Americans to sell and trade with one another.

      Imagine a drive out of town, where so many poor and wealthy families live on acreages, and seeing gardens and orchards and barns with offerings of vegetables, fruit, nuts, milk, eggs, smoked hams… Ah so mm-good and mm-good for you! (Counties and states would assist us, the public, with food safety protocols.)


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