GOP Senators to Introduce Immigration, Border Security and DACA Framework Tomorrow…

Apparently a group of GOP Senators are proposing an outline (pdf below) for the Republican senatorial legislation for immigration reform.  A first review of the seven  senators outlined in the group shows a majority-minded tilt toward the CoC position(s), with a dose of Chuck Grassley sprinkled in to make their GOPe mix palatable.

With the 1000mg bitter pill of a massive budget bill still blocking our trachea, upon first glance we note an ideological similarity here to the failed Obamacare repeal construct (amid the big picture analysis). The backdrop is a faux-deadline of March 5th where POTUS asked congress to solve the DACA issue. Here’s the press release:

WASHINGTON D.C. -A group of U.S. Senators tomorrow will introduce a common-sense proposal aimed at providing legal certainty for undocumented children brought to the United States by their parents and preventing others from falling into the same legal limbo in the future.

Their proposal, which mirrors the White House framework announced by President Trump, provides a generous opportunity for approximately 1.8 million DACA or DACA-eligible immigrants to earn citizenship while strengthening our nation’s border security and enforcement measures to reduce illegal immigration.

The Secure and Succeed Act, sponsored by Senators Cotton, Grassley, Cornyn, Tillis, Perdue, Lankford, and Ernst, appropriates $25 billion for real border security such as physical and virtual fencing, radar and other technologies. It also provides for additional personnel for border control and ends key loopholes in current law that allow dangerous criminals to enter our country.

The legislation prospectively limits family-based immigration to the nuclear family and reallocates the Diversity Visa lottery. Their proposal generously grandfathers all pending family-based visa applications in order to reward those who chose to follow the law and immigrate legally. The allotment for the Diversity Visa lottery will be reallocated to reduce this backlog and the employment-based visa backlog.

“This is the only bill that has a chance of becoming law, and that’s because it’s the only bill that will truly solve the underlying problem. It will protect those eligible for DACA but also make sure we don’t end up back here five years from now. By addressing our border security needs and limiting family sponsorship to the nuclear family, it goes far beyond the other half measures that have been proposed. This bill is generous, humane, and responsible, and now we should send it to the president’s desk,” Tom Cotton said.

“This legislation is a reasonable approach to shielding children illegally brought to our country through no fault of their own while also taking the meaningful steps to ensure nobody finds themselves in the same situation in the future. This is a rare opportunity to fix a real problem and protect the country in a thoughtful and compassionate way. We simply have to correct the loopholes in current law that allow dangerous criminals to enter and remain at large in our country. Our proposal is supported by the President, who’s come a long way to reach a compromise. This is the only Senate proposal that has any chance of passing the House and being signed into law. If my colleagues are serious about actually finding a real and permanent solution to the DACA crisis, they should be ready and willing to support this compromise,” Chuck Grassley said.

“This proposal provides a common-sense, permanent solution for nearly two million people who find themselves in limbo. The Secure and Succeed Act gives us the opportunity to help these individuals and build the trust of the American people by securing our borders and enforcing our immigration laws,” John Cornyn said.

“This is a common-sense compromise that accomplishes a number of goals that both parties have long supported. It offers a fair and compassionate solution for DACA youth to earn naturalization, and it effectively secures our borders to help prevent future illegal immigration and stop drug and human trafficking. It also provides a path forward for modernizing our broken immigration system so it can be more merit-based and reflective of the changing economic and labor needs of our nation. This legislation is the only proposal that the President supports, and the open amendment process will give Senators the opportunity to improve the baseline proposal and get it signed into law,” Tom Tillis said.

“President Trump has been very clear on what he will sign into law, and this is it. This is a great deal and the only solution that fully addresses the four pillars in the President’s framework. Now it is up to Republicans and Democrats in both chambers. If people really want to solve the DACA situation, secure our border, and fix the flaws in our current system that incentivize illegal immigration, they should be eager to support this plan,” David Perdue said.

“We have a unique opportunity to finally get something done on the four immigration areas that leaders in Congress and the President agreed must get done – DACA, border security, the visa lottery, and family sponsorship reform. It’s important to do this in a way that prevents repeating this conversation again ten years from now. I call on my colleagues to put aside partisanship and posturing to have an honest debate about decades-long immigration issues and practical solutions that can pass both Houses of Congress and be signed into law. There are many immigration proposals being floated in the Senate that the House will not pass and the President won’t sign. Too many families are counting on us to do the right thing. Now is the time to get this done,” Jim Lankford said.

“We must ensure a path forward for those who were brought here through no fault of their own as children, while also enforcing our laws, putting an end to illegal immigration, and strengthening our border security. This framework is a step toward addressing the legal, economic, and security concerns that are present in the current debate and the unique challenges that the DACA-eligible population faces, and I urge my colleagues to support this proposal,” Jodi Ernst said.

The Secure and Succeed Act includes the four reform pillars agreed to during a bipartisan meeting with congressional leaders and President Trump in January: legal status for DACA recipients; increased border security; an end to chain to migration; and an end to the diversity visa lottery.  (link)

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634 Responses to GOP Senators to Introduce Immigration, Border Security and DACA Framework Tomorrow…

  1. Betty says:

    I’ve signed petitions and have called my Congressman (Joyce) and swamper senator Portman. I will do whatever it takes to keep Trump from making a huge mistake with amnesty and having that albatross hung on him.. I do believe it will cause him to lose majorities in both houses and be a one term president. Amnesty is not a winner with Americans. That is why the democrats never vote for amnesty. They are happy to have republicans take that vote to do it for them. I think if we want to protect president Trump and win him a second term we must save him from doing an amnesty deal.

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    • mdt123 says:

      Agreed 100%. Amnesty without a full set of measure and most of Trump’s base stays home.
      Stephen Miller needs to intersect with Trump on this. He knows the issue inside out.

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    • Lurker2 says:

      I will do whatever it takes to keep Trump from making a huge mistake with amnesty and having that albatross hung on him.

      You’re sounding like Peter Strzok now. You really think Trump is a stupid man and will make a mistake?

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      • Betty says:

        Seriously? That is what you interpreted my post to mean? Let me be clear. I am doing what the tea party patriots and Angel mom’s asked to be done. Call your reps and senators and white house and tell them to reject this immigration proposal. But if you think that they and I and the tea party sounds like Peter Strzok then …..whatever.

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      • churchmouse says:

        It all depends on whether the President has all the necessary information.

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    • I agree. I have Portman and Renacci, both of whom represent themselves and whoever pays them. No town halls, except by phone with a one second notice, no questions and Renacci was to call my husband back for questions – no call, of course. Now he wants to be our Senator, backing out on aspirations for governor when Josh Mandel had to drop out. He called Paul Ryan his “good friend”in an email. Christine Hagen is running for Renacci’s spot and she is a true Conservative from what I can see, but we need to get better candidates in 2018 for Renacci’s Senatorial run and in five years for the Never-Trumper Portman. Not sure how to do this

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  2. john lorenz says:

    this maybe the case were Mitch kills the 60 vote threshhold. Pass this and demsheviks have nothing to run on and base will be satisfied.jelor

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  3. acenypd says:

    What the hell does ‘Permanently authorizes voluntary E-verify program.” mean? It should be REQUIRED, not voluntary. Also, within the document it states that it forces future administrations to abide by it. As we saw during the obama years, they do NOT abide to current laws, and we should expect future admins to go along. Right…. I understand the need to negotiate, but don’t just give it all away for a 25 billion $ lockbox. As we have seen previous lockboxes get stolen for other priorities.
    Based on the current language, it is way too wishy washy for me.

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  4. Lovearepublican says:

    I don’t see the word WALL. Anywhere. Big mistake. WE WANT A WALL AND NO AMNESTY.

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    • Lurker2 says:

      What’s the point of posting a comment like that? Be realistic. If there is no DACA deal then there will be no wall, no end to chain migration, no end to the visa lottery. People will continue to flood in the way they are doing now.

      We cannot have perfection right now. Decades of abuse by prior Presidents and Congresses created a mess that cannot be undone in 1 year. Let’s take what we can get. Expecting everything without giving something will not work.

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      • louche9 says:

        Americans could be forgiven for thinking that, with tens of millions of illegal aliens living here and the billions it has cost to educate, medicate and incarcerate them, not to mention the deaths and injuries the criminals among them have caused, Americans have already given enough. Americans are looking for their elected representatives to consider the welfare of citizens over foreign nationals, which shouldn’t be considered an unreasonable demand.

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        • Lurker2 says:

          I am part of the MAGA base. If the Republicans were supportive of the Republican President then we’d have a better chance of getting everything we want. But the problem is that too many keep keep voting for the obstructionist RINOs like McCain and Graham and the others we know too well. THAT is the problem. We have a reality that is not pleasant. We need to execute the best deal that we can. Trading some vetted DACA people for the wall, end of chain migration, and end of visa lottery is the best deal we’re going to get.

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        • SoonerGirl1201 says:

          I hear all this ‘he’ll lose the base’ over DACA. Just where the heck is the base going to go? To the Paul Ryan rhinos, or maybe the Nancy Pelosi/Schumer democrats. Or maybe even more likely the Bernie/Stein socialists. Or maybe just stay home and pout and let them all win?
          I’m in the ‘THE BASE’ and I want DACA dead, but wise up, ‘THE BASE’ is now woke and we all realize Trump is our only chance (I thank God for him everyday). So, yeah – I ain’t going nowhere.

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      • 4sure says:

        We have NEVER gotten anything even close to perfection. In fact, we have NEVER gotten anything at all every time we have caved. NEVER!!!!!

        At some point doing the same and expecting different results means what?

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        • Lurker2 says:

          As I wrote below, if you have an all or nothing position when you don’t have total control, then you will end up with nothing.

          Not sure why you equate smart negotiations and deal-making with “caved”. Are you married? Do you get every single thing you want?

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      • Lurker2 says:

        If you have an all or nothing position when you don’t have total control (which Trump does not), then you will get nothing. That option isn’t OK with me.

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      • Big Jake says:

        #NukeTheFilibuster

        Problem solved.

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  5. powderdayrules says:

    I’m in favor of bringing our ground forces home to deploy on our border, where the invasion is taking place. Europe, Japan, and Korea alone would be, and I’m guessing, over 100,000 troops. That is Ten Divisions! Those countries can afford to provide for their own defense by themselves. We can still assist countries like Poland and other deserving nations. Our Navy (including the Marines) and Air Force can still project our power and protect our friends as they do now. Also move our US inland bases permanently to the border as well and give the US Army the job of securing the border. Our troops in Korea and Germany are expert at protecting a border, WHY theirs and NOT OURS? Our border would close very quickly. This will have a good economic effect as well as all that military spending will be spent here. There should be no quarter given to our enemies both foreign and domestic.

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    • PDCovfefe says:

      YES! Powderdayrules! I could not agree more!!!!!

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    • Zennalou says:

      Thank You!
      Exactly what I have been saying for months. It is so simple even a 9 year old could give that answer. We have spent trillions on war on the other side of the world, but don’t protect our own border.

      Why is this not happening?

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    • Betty says:

      Would Posse Comitatus Act prohibit this?

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      • Zennalou says:

        No!

        The Posse Comitatus Act does not prohibit US Military on our borders.

        US Military is allowed as authorized by the Constitution or Act of Congress This is from Carlton Meyer’s new book: The Spectrum of Future Warfare.
        http://www.g2mil.com/border.htmMyth #1 The US Constitution prohibits posting US troops on the border.The US Constitution says no such thing. In fact, Article IV states: Section 4. The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government, and shall protect each of them against invasion; and on application of the legislature, or of the executive (when the legislature cannot be convened) against domestic violence. So the US Constitution clearly requires the federal government to protect states from invasion. Almost a million aliens illegally pouring across the border into states each year is clearly an invasion.

        Myth #2 The Posse Comitatus Act prohibits US troops from guarding US borders.
        This 1878 act was enacted to prevent Union troops from continuing to enforce federal laws in the defeated South after the American Civil war. Here is the text as modified by Congress in recent years:

        Sec. 1385. – Use of Army and Air Force as posse comitatusWhoever, except in cases and under circumstances expressly authorized by the Constitution or Act of Congress, willfully uses any part of the Army or the Air Force as a posse comitatus or otherwise to execute the laws shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.Guarding US borders from foreign invasion is not “law enforcement.” The US Army exists to defend the US from foreign invasion, which is expressly authorized by the US Constitution. Guarding the Mexican border was the Army’s primary peacetime mission until 1940, and no one ever declared this was in violation of this 1878 act. The US Border Patrol wasn’t even formed until 1924, so claiming the intent of this law was to prevent US Army troops from guarding the border is absurd. The map at left shows US Army forts in Texas in the late 1880s when the entire US Army had fewer than 40,000 soldiers; it has 500,000 today. Clearly, defending the US border was a primary mission of the US Army for decades after this act was passed.Some may argue that Chapter 18, Section 375 of Title 10 US Code prevents military personnel from direct participation in law enforcement. However, defending US borders from foreign invaders is not law enforcement, it’s the basic purpose of the US military. While defending these United States from invasion, civilian law enforcement may be called upon to assist the US military. Does anyone believe the Border Patrol must operate fighter aircraft because the US Air Force can’t intercept aircraft crossing into the US because that’s “law enforcement”? When you read about proposals in Congress to put US troops on the border, those are not proposals to allow US troops on the border, but proposals to force the President to put troops back on the border. However, recent Presidents have listened to their corporate advisors and their slogans and ignored the threat of unsecured US borders.

        Myth #3 The National Guard should guard the border, not active duty troops. The National Guard is an organized militia to deal with state and national emergencies. Guarding the US border is a full-time mission that the federal government is required to perform by Article IV, Section 4 of the US Constitution. The few states along the border shouldn’t be expected to defend the entire country from invasion. This myth is also spread by imperial minded Generals who prefer to rule an empire overseas than to defend their own citizens. Whenever citizens demand the Army protect their nation, Generals dodge this issue by stating that it may be a mission for the National Guard, so as not to waste resources of the US Army. This is absurd; the primary mission of the US Army is to protect US citizens, and the US Constitution requires the federal government to protect states from invasion. If there is a major war and the Army would like to deploy its border troops overseas, then National Guard troops from any state can be mobilized to guard the border until the war ends.

        Myth #4 The US Army hasn’t the resources for border troops. The active duty army has 500,000 full-time troops supported by over 300,000 civilians. The Border Patrol has 9700 agents. Certainly, the Army can form a infantry division of 10,000 troops to actually defend the USA, or Congress can authorize more troops. This G2mil article: Cut Surplus Army Units identifies more than 10,000 unneeded positions in the US Army that can be cut to form an infantry division. There are several US military bases along the border that can host an infantry battalion for border security: NAS Whidbey Island, WA; Minot AFB, SD; Selfridge ARNG base, MI; Fort Drum, NY; Laughlin AFB, TX; Fort Bliss, TX; Fort Huachuca, AZ, Yuma Proving Grounds, AZ; and NAS El Centro, CA; plus several military facilities in the San Diego area. Some Army officers may express concern that border duty will hurt readiness for Army missions overseas. They don’t understand that defending the USA is their primary mission!

        Myth #5 Soldiers aren’t trained for such missions Soldiers are ideally trained to guard remote areas of the border. All they need are a few days of orientation training and to learn some Spanish or French phrases they can shout into a bullhorn: “Stop, you cannot enter the United States here, go back!” They will not process arrestees, fill out paperwork, search houses, run checkpoints, appear in court, or conduct investigations. They will just confront people who they directly view invading the USA. They will insist that foreign intruders turn back or face arrest by the Border Patrol. This will prevent odd incidents like in 1997 when a marine on drug war duty near the border shot a local goat herder who had fired in his direction. Some suspect this young man was paid by drug dealers to provoke an incident in hopes of getting the marines removed. He succeeded, but didn’t expect to die. The marines were there because the President had authorized their use after Army Generals refused. The Marine shooter was there on temporary duty and did not view the goat herder entering the USA illegally. The establishment of orientation training and strict rules of engagement can ensure that US troops have no contact with US citizens.

        Myth #6 Illegal immigration cannot be stopped Of course it can. There is no illegal immigration from North to South Korea because that border is heavily guarded. Perhaps some of the 20,000 US troops there can transfer to the US border. Guarding the border will not stop the hundreds of thousands of visitors who overstay their visas in the USA, but at least they were checked and inspected prior to arrival. The Border Patrol estimates that 700,000 unknown persons slipped past them last year, cutting that to 7000 a year is not unrealistic. Some claim that illegals will just find another way to cross. However, most illegals cannot obtain a visa or shopping pass because they haven’t an address and job.

        http://www.unitedpatriotsofamerica.com/border-control/the-posse-comitatus-act-does-not-prohibit-us-military-on-our-borders.html

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    • Madi says:

      Yes, sir!

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  6. Joe says:

    Yeah, NO!

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  7. Build the wall, remove ALL criminal illegal immigrants even those in prison. Send them home!
    No visa lottery, no chain migration, and those who haven’t broken any others laws to show good behavior for 12 years without medical benefits, or social security. Break those rules and out you go.

    Daca, is very, very difficult. I envision TV screens filled with Jews being ousted from Germany as a comparison!

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  8. Betty says:

    800,000+ illegal aliens seem to be dictating immigration policy for 300,000,000 legal American citizens. This is nuts!

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  9. Attorney says:

    Send them home. Or at least admit Texas and Florida will be Blue in a decade.

    Game Over at that point.

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  10. JL says:

    I got to eavesdrop on a ‘inside the beltway’ Republican consultant talking today. He said a couple of things that should interest us very much:

    1) Tom Cotton’s philosophy on amnesty is much closer to Marco Rubio’s than it is to President Trump’s. He is aligning himself with Trump in an attempt to position himself for 2024, and has been putting his name forward for John Kelly’s spot. (Rumor in DC is that Kelly will leave soon. I know, I know. I’ve come to the conclusion that the White House floats these rumors just to keep the swamp occupied. Look! Alligator!”) Cotton does have a fair amount of trust from Trump because of Cotton’s support of the military, and this consultant was wondering if Trump might lean towards this bill because of that trust.

    2) ALL of the dems are on board for this bill. What does that tell us?

    3) The strategy from the Republican retreat is to keep the same approach to the midterms. “Vote for me because we’re doing better now, right?” Such a wasted opportunity. If these guys just said, “I stand with Trump,” they’d all be elected. (my opinion)

    4) Last bit that blows my mind. A poll was done in a particular state asking, “Would you be for citizenship for Dreamers (sic) if they had a 4.0 GPA, no crimes, good behavior, etc.? 80% of Republicans said “Hell no.” About three questions later, “Would you be for a bill put forth by President Trump if he stipulated that the Dreamers were 4.0 GPA, no crimes, good behavior, etc.?” Guess the outcome. 70% said, “Yes, I’d be okay/fine with that.”

    The trust for our President is EXTREME. I pray that God will continue to guide President Trump in the correct direction for this nation.

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    • Lurker2 says:

      2) ALL of the dems are on board for this bill. What does that tell us?

      They are terrified of disappointing the DACA people. They are terrified of losing their votes when they become citizens. Trump won 30% of the hispanic vote. The old notion that hispanics always vote Dem is outdated. The DACA people might appreciate that the Republicans made things happen for them. Not just an executive order that be cancelled at any moment, but real legislation and permanent legal status thanks to Trump.

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    • Zennalou says:

      ——4) Last bit that blows my mind. A poll was done in a particular state asking, “Would you be for citizenship for Dreamers (sic) if they had a 4.0 GPA, no crimes, good behavior, etc.? 80% of Republicans said “Hell no.” About three questions later, “Would you be for a bill put forth by President Trump if he stipulated that the Dreamers were 4.0 GPA, no crimes, good behavior, etc.?” Guess the outcome. 70% said, “Yes, I’d be okay/fine with that.”————–

      Yes, I’ve noticed that also.

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  11. fred5678 says:

    My message to both of my senators — Rubio and Nelson — at their state offices today.
    I was calm and both staff members listened to me politely for 5 minutes:

    “The Senate is once again spending precious time trying to reward illegal aliens at the expense of American citizen workers.

    The Senate is considering not only rewarding the stolen jewels (residency) to the children of the burglars (their parents who knowingly broke our laws) but they are also considering rewarding the stolen jewels to the burglars (the parents) themselves!

    And you are ignoring the border security issues!!! This is outrageous.

    President5 Trump won election with one of his main planks being ending illegal immigration

    DACA, or any form of “amnesty”, is just kicking the can down the road.
    “Amnesty”, or legalized residency with a “pathway to citizenship”, is not a solution – it is a reward of the ill-gotten gains to those who stole them, or at least to the children of those that stole them.

    I am all for a true amnesty — no punishment, no jail time, no fine — but you don’t get to keep your ill-gotten gains!! You don’t get to stay here in legal status — if you want legal status YOU HAVE TO GO HOME and apply, just as legal immigrants do.

    Attrition through enforcement is the only popular, efficient, economical, just, and fair solution.*

    No jobs for illegal aliens — mandatory E-Verify, and fines for employers (fines are current, but seldom enforced, law)
    No in-state tuition for illegal aliens (in 1996 Federal law, but many states work around it)
    No drivers licenses for illegal aliens (pass federal law that illegal aliens can not drive on federal highways or roads subsidized by federal taxes).
    If we strictly enforce all these laws, most illegal aliens will go home on their own. **

    PLEASE think about your constituents, not foreign nationals, when you vote.

    Thank you for your time,”

    My ammunition:

    * http://www.jmisys.com/immigrationmarches/zogby5.html

    ** https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxe1WO27B_I

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    • Lurker2 says:

      What if these were your two options:

      1) Make a DACA deal and in return get the wall, end of chain migration, and end of visa lottery

      OR

      2) Situation remains as-is

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      • fred5678 says:

        Leave as is — let the 11 or 20 or 30 or whatever live in fear of the law being enforced.
        Yet another amnesty is just another giant magnet.

        Also, unless we make E-Verify mandatory, just like the I-9 form is SUPPOSED to be — no wall by itself (and we need a wall) will end the giant magnet of millions of illegal jobs, since 40% of illegal aliens are visa overstays..

        See: http://jmisys.com/CALOSHA/

        BTW – that is my last hypothetical for the day.

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        • Lurker2 says:

          If we leave everything as-is then we’re going to get a heck of a lot of people coming in to the country and becoming citizens who are dead weight. At least there are requirements for DACA people that they be productive, and I think most are.

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      • Betty says:

        Why is there only two choices? How about our lawmakers make immigration policy that holds up the rule of our immigration laws and provides border security? Let’s tighten the screws on these lawmakers that ignore the will and security of our nation? With hold campaign contributions and vote them out. As for the illegal alien data people.. start deporting them. I do not want my nation and it’s security held host to illegal aliens.

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        • Lurker2 says:

          How about our lawmakers make immigration policy that holds up the rule of our immigration laws and provides border security?

          They don’t want to do that and we can’t make them. We keep voting in the people who created and perpetuate the problem. It’s been going on for decades. I’m seeing more complaints about DACA now than when Obama implemented the program. Why is that?

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    • platypus says:

      I have one more to add. There needs to be a provision that no relief is available for any illegal alien brought here as a minor who did not IMMEDIATELY try to legalize himself/herself upon discovery that he/she was not American. If the knowledge was acquired during minority, then the child should have attempted to get the state child protective service to act as guardian for the purpose of going to the State Dept. for a visa. This has nothing to do with immigration laws regarding entry; the State Dept could easily (under existing policy) classify such a minor as a hardship case. I have heard of no alien who tried to legitimize his/her status – all I’ve heard is whining and demanding that somehow it is America’s problem to solve TO THE ILLEGAL’S SATISFACTION.

      Cut ’em off and they’ll go home. The ones who grabbed the first border patrol agent when they came here illegally can grab the nearest border patrol agent and get a lift to the border to cross back.

      Congress does not exist to represent foreigners.

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      • Lurker2 says:

        You can wish for the most hard-core policies but we need Dem votes for anything to pass and they’re not going to go for it. And probably some Republicans won’t either.

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  12. Almost Done says:

    I will never understand why the unconstitutional DACA presidential directive of Obama is treated as something sacrosanct and/or part of law. He did not have the authority to establish DACA. Why don’t we hear Republican politicians calling him out on this? Why is DACA necessary?!!!

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  13. spren says:

    Who among us has any certainty in their lives? Why this obsession with people who are here illegally? I really don’t get it. How about the proposal by the Congressman Goodlatte who heads the Judiciary Committee where these illegals would be given a 3 year permit to remain in the country while they are given the attempt to prove their bonafides allowing them to remain here and then obtain a path to citizenship?

    They would then be handled on a case by case basis and we could determine if they are worthy of being allowed to remain in our great country. Why in the world should we pass legislation giving ALL of them carte blanche approval to remain here? Congress, get over it and start attending to your real responsibilities of attending to the interests of the American public.

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    • spren says:

      I would add to these comments that nothing at all should be done for illegals until the sanctity of our borders have been secured so we prevent ever more hordes of illegals from invading our country. Then we can decide how to handle those who have already illegally violated our borders. Why is this so difficult for Congress to understand, unless they really don’t want to solve the actual cause of the problem? Sorry, I’m really quite perturbed right now over this inanity.

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  14. mashall says:

    You can’t represent US Citizens and Illegal Aliens at the same time.

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    • mashall says:

      If an elected Congressman or Senator represents an Illegal Invader they are treasonous as they violate their oath and fail to fulfill their duties to U.S. Citizens in our Representative Republic.

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  15. woodstuff says:

    In the back of my weak little mind, the D’s and R’s will not buy into our President’s plan, which is strong on the Wall and border security, lottery, and chain. I don’t believe that *this* bill will happen. We will see more shortly. Three weeks from now, DACA will simply expire and that’s that. The issues of border security will be taken up later. I hope this will happen. I don’t think this is just wishful thinking.

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  16. Athena the Warrior says:

    This is complete horsecrap. The same old same old. 10 year border security plan. They must really think we are stupid.It would take 1 1/2 years -2 years max to build the wall. END the visa lottery not “reallocate it.” END chain migration not reform it.

    Screw these jerks.

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  17. Zennalou says:

    Just got this from NumbersUSA
    URGENT UPDATE: Our Capital Hill team is hearing that the proposal offered by Senators John McCain and Chris Coons may have enough votes to pass. Their proposal would grant amnesty to 3.2 million illegal aliens and require a government study on the effectiveness of building a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border.

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  18. IN/AL gal says:

    I’m not going all bleeding heart here. I don’t advocate immigration. But….DACA is a strange argument. Some of these people are established and acclimated. Non criminal and hard working. This is their country. That being said….serious vetting and criminals sent packing. Most of these DACA folks won’t even hold up and will get deported pretty quick. BUT…before we can enforce the rules we need a WALL. Otherwise they just keep coming back. Its a long pathway to citizenship. We gotta give to get. Negotiate now so we can vote in better republicans in Nov and maybe put it back on table to tweak it. Hang in there. Its already so much better. Hopeful. Don’t turn your back on the only hope we have. Its taken 4 administrations over 30 years to sink us. You’ve given trump 1 year….and he’s ALONE. EVERYONE is kicking him and he’s still fighting. For us. Please remember that.

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    • jello333 says:

      Agreed. I can’t believe some of the people here who are saying, “If DACA passes, I’m not voting for Trump next time.” Just, wow. They don’t even care what the precise wording of any DACA plan might be; they don’t even care about the hundred other great things Trump is still be working on (on far more than immigration). All they care about is DACA… period, end of story. Seriously?

      Like you say, a lot of the DACA people will be deported along with other illegals anyway. But the ones who can prove their worth? Why on earth are we so terrified of allowing some of them to stay? The bad ones, or even the mediocre ones… fine, get ’em out. But the good ones? I just don’t understand the… well, it almost seems like hatred toward them. Let’s say there’s a 12-year-old kid who has gotten in no trouble, is doing great in school, is involved (in a good way) with his community. By all appearances, he’s a positive member of society, and no reason to believe that’ll change. Oh, and he not only is perfectly fluent in English, he speaks ONLY English, virtually no Spanish, since he’s been living here since he was a baby. Has never been outside of the U.S. Do these “I won’t vote for Trump again” people really think it would be right to grab that kid and drop him off in Tijuana?

      Believe me, if we (Trump supporters) get THAT extreme in our fight against illegal immigration, we’re gonna be in serious trouble. A whole bunch of fence-sitters who decided to go with Trump are gonna have second thoughts next time. For every person who says “I’m not voting for Trump if DACA passes”, there are likely several others who are gonna be reluctant to associate themselves with us.

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      • Well said. I totally distrust (with good reason) several of the authors of this proposal, and it is weak in several key areas, but we should not lose our minds over the DACA issue. If anyone has trusted Trump up to now, they should CONTINUE TO TRUST TRUMP.

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  19. dawndoe says:

    Is Trump tired of being president? Does he want to lose in 2020? I’m really beginning to wonder.

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    • Haven’t seen Trump whole-heartedly endorsing every element of this weak proposal anywhere. Not going to worry until he actually DOES something wrong. He’s knocking it out of the park in so many other areas right now, why imagine that Trump is “tired of being president?” The DACA deal is not done, so let’s not get a headstart on losing our minds.

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  20. frank field says:

    E-Verify! Perhaps later!

    DRAIN IT

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  21. Mark McQueen says:

    Some of us need to put our Real World thinking caps on. The DACA people, as a specific group, are NOT going anywhere no matter what. Massive deportation of “Dreamers” is and always was a fantasy. There won’t be “round ups” and busloads being sent back across the border. I’ll repeat it is just NOT and NEVER WAS going to happen. There is no VIABLE alternative other than to address the issue reasonably while getting the border security we must have. One of the most important aspects that keeps getting pushed aside by EVERYONE in Govt. it seems is putting pressure on employers to stop hiring illegals and holding them accountable when they do. E-verify is a MUST. As far as the “base”…we’re one year into MAGA and the “base” is threatening to KILL it?? Over DACA? Are you sure you want to do that?

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    • Mark McQueen says:

      “Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference.”

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