For about a year CTH has predicted Chinese auto manufacturers BYD and GEELY would take over shuttered auto plants in Canada. Specifically, six months ago, against the backdrop warning of Stellantis, Toyota and Honda telling the Canadian government that without the USMCA they would shift auto production to the USA, CTH predicted BYD and GEELY would make moves on those closed facilities.
The move by China is easy to predict. Prime Minister Mark Carney has opened the door to Chinese EVs. It would be in Beijing’s best interest to retool and take control of closed plants to begin mass production in North America.
Chinese EV manufacturing in Canada serves two purposes.
First, they would not be limited in production to the cars that remain in Canada as part of the agreement. Factually, China would use their Canadian footprint as an export hub into Europe and save money on current distribution. Remember, Europe is losing their auto manufacturing base to China and Germany is laying off 100,000+ auto workers.
Second, the appearance of Chinese auto manufacturing in North America would put pressure on the United States to permit their cheap EVs to enter the market.
Today Bloomberg is reporting exactly what we predicted. Chinese automaker BYD (Build Your Dream) is asking local officials about the currently idled Stellantis auto plant. Things are following a very predictable timeline.
BLOOMBERG – Chinese carmaker BYD Co. inquired about taking over an idled Stellantis NV plant in the Toronto suburbs, according to a local politician, signaling possible global interest in Canadian auto hubs in the midst of a trade battle with the US.
Patrick Brown, the mayor of Brampton, Ontario, said BYD approached him about six months ago to talk about making buses at the factory. Stellantis had been retooling the plant to manufacture the Jeep Compass, but the company halted that plan last year when the US adopted a policy of tariffs on foreign autos.
Brown said he also received inquiries from Leapmotor International, a joint venture between Zhejiang Leapmotor Technology Co. and Stellantis, as well as from an Italian automaker. Bloomberg News reported in April that Stellantis was discussing options for building electric vehicles in Canada with Leapmotor.
Most of the vehicles Canada produces are exported to the US, but the trade war and the lack of a new product earmarked for the 40-year-old factory have clouded the future for thousands of people who work there. Unifor, the union representing those workers, said this month that Stellantis is considering selling the plant. (read more)
I went to Russia in 2024, because what I was hearing in western media about the sanctions did not align with what I was seeing from reports inside Russia.
Before I went into Russia, I spent several weeks in Northern and Eastern Europe visiting various institutions, reading material and checking to see how systems in Europe were engaging with commerce given the Russian sanctions. It wasn’t very exciting work, and sometimes I literally just sat in the lobbies of banks listening to conversations.
When I went into Russia (April, May, June and July ’24) I noticed many of the “Uber cars” were BYD brand, Chinese electric vehicles. It made sense given two years of existing sanctions and few cars from Europe or America available except under costly brokerage fees for acquisition.
The Russians like the Geely brand better, but BYDs are much cheaper. A brand new BYD costs around $5,000 to $10,000 USD, in some places even less.
Then later I noticed even more of these BYD cars in Europe. I started to pay attention to them and saw them everywhere.
When I went back into Russia a year later in 2025, there was a very noticeable increase in BYD cars. It was crazy, they were everywhere.
My travels also took me to southeast Asia and again those damned BYD’s were all over the place. In Thailand, Philippines, Malaysia, Vietnam, these BYD’s were everywhere, maybe even 30% of total vehicle traffic at times – most certainly well over 50% of all EVs – and there are digital billboards for “Build Your Dream” (BYD) all over the place throughout Asia.
Australia is stocked full of those things, and the middle east, yup, even there too. It became increasingly weird to notice. So many were visible I was wondering how the heck China can mass produce and ship this many cheap EVs so fast.
Then as serendipity would have it, I ran into a Chinese guy, professionally an actuary, in a hotel restaurant. He explained to me that China produces the BYD not to make money from the automobile, but rather to sell the carbon credits the automobile generates within the auto industry.
The actual value to Beijing is in selling the carbon credit worthiness to various automakers who are fined or penalized by their government for producing gasoline powered vehicles. [DETAILS HERE]
BYD is, in essence, not a car per se’, but a mechanism to generate a carbon credit certificate that can be sold to other car companies. It’s the carbon credit certificate that generates the revenue, not the sale of the vehicle. As my dinner guest explained, the auto insurance industry was having fits about this because the actuaries couldn’t accurately put a correct figure on the cost of the insurance warrantee within the industry (that’s another story).
The bottom line is that China is manufacturing a product to create a carbon credit certificate in response to the demand for carbon credits from all the world auto-makers. Any nation that has a penalty or fine attached to their climate goals is a customer. Those are nations with fines or quotas associated with the production of gasoline powered engines if the auto company doesn’t hit the legislated target for sales of electric vehicles.
In essence, EU/AU/CA/RU/ASEAN car companies buy Chinese car company carbon credits, to avoid the EU/AU/CA/RU/ASEAN fines. The Chinese then use the carbon credit revenue to subsidize even lower priced Chinese EVs to the EU/AU/CA/RU/ASEAN car markets, thereby undercutting the EU/AU/CA/RU/ASEAN car companies that also produce EVs.
Big Panda brilliantly exploits the ridiculous pontificating climate scam and has an interest in perpetuating -even emphasizing- the need for the EU/AU/RU/ASEAN countries to keep pushing their climate agenda. China even goes so far as to fund alarmism research about climate change because they are making money selling carbon credit certificates on the back end of the scam to the western fear mongers. This is friggin’ brilliant.
My dinner buddy was in the business of identifying the cost/benefit equation between the climate change fines and the prices Big Panda could charge for the carbon credit certificates. If, as an example, Brussels dropped the quotas for EVs, China would need to lower the price for the carbon credit certificates. So, Beijing wants Brussels to make sure they don’t drop the quotas. See how that works?
The climate change alarmists are helping China’s economy by pushing ever escalating fear of climate change. You just cannot make this stuff up.
What does the outcome look like?
Well, in this example we see thousands of unsold BYDs piling up in countries that emphasize climate regulations with no restrictions on the import of EVs (which most don’t even manufacture), which is almost every country. Big Panda doesn’t care about the car itself; they care about generating the carbon credit certificate to sell in the various carbon exchanges.
Put this context to the recent announcement by Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney about his trade deal with China to accept 49,000 EVs this year.
Prime Minister Carney bragged about getting the Chinese to agree to only super low prices for the Canadian market. Mark Carney was very proud of his accomplishment to get much lower priced vehicles for Canadian EV purchasers. No doubt Big Panda left the room laughing as soon as Carney made his grand announcement.
1. China sells EV’s in Canada, creating credits available on the carbon exchange scheme. Europe et al will purchase the carbon credits because Bussels has fines against EU car companies.
2. With a foothold already established in Europe, China will then take the money generated by the carbon credit purchases and lower the prices of the Chinese EV cars sold in Canada.
It’s gets funnier.
3. Carney bragged about forcing China to only sell low price EV’s as part of the trade agreement. The low price of the EV’s in Canada will be subsidized by Europe. China doesn’t pay or lose a dime.
But wait….
4. Carney can’t do anything about the scheme he has just enmeshed Canada into, because Canada has a Carbon Credit exchange in law. 😂🤣😂
Big Panda wins again.
[…] In a statement published Thursday, BYD said sales of its battery-powered cars rose nearly 28% to 2.26 million units.
Musk openly laughed at the mention of BYD while being interviewed on Bloomberg TV in October 2011. He said he did not see the company as a competitor to Tesla, adding: “I don’t think they have a great product.” Meanwhile, Tesla said Friday it delivered 1.64 million vehicles in 2025. [SOURCE]
Elon thinks BYD are building cars. They aren’t.

Stellantis (French/Itallian) should have never b Al to purchase the failing Dodge Chrysler auto manufacturing company.
1-Challenger
2- Charger
Made in Canada
Ford will start manufacturing Super duty pickup trucks this year in Canada plus the GT is made in Canada.
Lincoln manufacturing in Canada and China and GM is manufacturing the Silverado in Canada.
The whole carbon system is a joke that many have allowed to flourish into a country destroying monster.
Calling a car produced by the big 3 an “American” car is a joke and China has been in the car market in this country for a long time.
Let Canada can have the Chinese EV’s.
Yes, we’ll take those jobs too!
Glad Sundance is keeping track of all this!
Thank you!
Has anyone shown Carney a curve of battery efficiency vs temperature? As Forrest would say stupid is as stupid does.
Maybe a car that won’t work in Canadian winters is not so stupid if the goal is get us out of personal cars (freedom of movement) and into public transit… out of our own homes and into government controlled high density housing.
Maybe very stupid if the Canadian people figure out the real agenda.
Maybe not so stupid if he knows there is nothing they can do to stop him.
Pushing people below the line seems “smart” for those intent on depopulation. After all Canada makes assisted suicide available to people who can no longer afford government subsidized rent.
“Poor and vulnerable Canadians are choosing assisted suicide and euthanasia under Medical Assistance in Dying (MAiD) because of socioeconomic circumstances,”
https://righttolife.org.uk/news/canada-poor-and-homeless-risk-being-pushed-into-assisted-suicide
sDee, the goals you note are intermediate goals, masking the larger goal:
Sink the West, as part of the longer-term global shift effected by the rise of the East.
The 100 Year Plan. Playing out in plain sight. The BYD expansion just a glimpse of one tiny part of it.
And Stellantis? Emblematic of the predatory mega-finance model that grew to replace the declining post-WWII industrial strength of the West.
Chrysler? If you spend time working in a Japanese auto plant and a UAW auto plant, all will become clear.
You got that right but the media has them so blinded that they still vote for the crook
Just think about how “efficient” it is to try and generate the electricity needed to charge the batteries of a major influx of electric autos during the winter months of Canada. I don’t think there are enough diesel fuel manufacturing plants/distribution network of generators available, nor coal fired power plants to support the necessary amount of electricity to fill the needs of demand when the weather starts staying below freezing for the winter months. I guess dog sleds are going to be in big demand again since people will care less about the “carbon credits” scheme that China has sold to “the smartest politician in charge” of Canada. Welcome Alberta, and BC, And the rest of Western Canadian provinces trying to leave ASAP the nation of Canada. The USA will be more than happy to assist you in most ways possible to make this happen.
Corney doesn’t care about battery efficiency, he is a globalist puppet on a mission
So why is the Lord taking away from us and giving to our enemies?
The Lord tells us….. “For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways. . . . For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts” (Isaiah 55:8–9).
We cannot understand God’s way. We must trust Him whether we understand His will or not. With such faith, we will find God in the midst of our trials—possibly even because of our trials.
The life of Job demonstrates that we are generally unaware of the many ways God is at work in the life of each believer.
Our enemy in this battle being waged is Satan – he has no interest in taking what we have. His minions may prosper and we may lose.
“As you know, we count as blessed those who have persevered. You have heard of Job’s perseverance and have seen what the Lord finally brought about. The Lord is full of compassion and mercy” (James 5:10–11).
Don’t blame God for the foolishness of leftards.
THESE CARS should ‘age well’ in a rust belt area –
“BYD Is A JOKE! ‘Tofu-Dreg’ Cars Rust in a Month, Brakes Fail, Owners Smash Them in Fury!”
Didn’t Tesla profit from emissions (carbon) credits for years in the US too? I’m not sure if/when they transitioned to making a profit on the actual cars.
Over the last decade, Tesla has sold ~$11 billion in carbon credits to other automakers that failed to meet emissions rules.
https://insideevs.com/news/767939/tesla-regulatory-credit-11-billion/
Will Canadians driving Chinese surveillance carrying EVs even be allowed to cross the US border to visit? There are thousands of Canadians driving into Michigan daily for work, crossing from Windsor and Sarnia.
I don’t get it, China with poor environmental laws and labor laws,…is making money selling Carbon Credits?
And the EU and others go along with this Ruse?
China has to own the politicians in these countries. The policy is absurd for these countries well being unless China is dicating policy in other countries.
Belt and Roads Scam evolved I guess.
Ah so. Sneaky Chinese exploit. Me Chinese, me play joke, me go pee pee in your coke.
Whenever i think of Chinese EV’s I remember the Yugo. (I know, I’m showing my age, here).
WHO could forget?? Immortalized on Rush’s program many years ago now!!!
“In a Yugo In a Yugo – A liberal guy n gal buy a Yugo (In the Ghetto)”
I thought it was Better Your Day
if you get rid of carbon credits does this skyrocket the cost of the BYD
I am reminded of the class action lawsuits against vehicle manufacturers inthe US who, without the drivers’ knowledge or permission sold driving data to 3rd parties:
https://www.classaction.org/driving-behavior-tracking-privacy
Montana AG ‘s lawsuit: https://dojmt.gov/attorney-general-knudsen-launches-investigation-into-major-auto-companies/
Buying
Your own
Death trap
A cheap Chinese car ? Geez what could possibly go wrong
Those BYD prices seem impossibly low. So I looked up Russian prices for a BYD. Every site I went to stated that they cost over $20,000 (3.35M rubles) for the most inexpensive models.
My question is what is the disconnect between what SD saw with his own eyes, and what I’m reading on the Internet?
Cheapest BYD models in Russia right now
BYD Seagull (Dolphin Mini)
China price: ~$10,300 USDRussia price: significantly higher due to:15% import duty20% VATlogistics + sanctions markupRealistically, this puts it closer to $14K–$16K USD once landed.
BYD E7 (budget EV sedan)
Russia price: $13,800 USDThis is currently one of the cheapest BYD vehicles available in Russia.BYD Han (premium EV)
Russia price: $61K USD after taxes and duties(Just included for context )
If canadians were smart, they would look into!
They should look into how batteries are in cold climates.
They should know the U.S. has already said no byd’s in the U.S. PERIOD.
And how many canadians will actually be hired to work in the robot run factories.
And they should know those spy machines are not going to be sold to china.
And like everything china makes it has a short life span, planned obsolesce it is called.
Plus, the big one canada has been sold to china. Meet your new boss.
They should know the U.S. has already said no byd’s in the U.S. PERIOD.
judge bo ass berg enters the chat
Thank you. This is the kind of indepth reporting and analysis our own media refuses to do.
The leftards in charge of Canada are going to turn it into the Hong Kong of the Americas.
Vancouver has been that for over a decade
China’s only interest in Canada is to use them a base for transnational shipping of Chinese parts and products to circumvent U.S. tariffs. If the USA doesn’t allow this (and Trump will not) then Canada provides little benefit to China.
Of course watch out the hate America Democrats strike a deal with Canada to allow them huge trade advantages that harm U.S. businesses in return for PM Carney bashing Trump right up until the U.S. midterm election.
Dear EU, Canada and NATO. When your in a hole quit digging.
LOL.