There are a few that ankle bite about President Trump focusing on trade agreements as if it is foreign policy and not economic policy for America that is the #1 factor in our future. I do not see value in such nonsense. Economic security is national security – period.
After a day of Canadian government officials pushing a twisted narrative about their position regarding U.S-Canada trade, President Trump puts forth a simple truthful statement:
Additionally, U.S. Trade Representative (USTR) Jamieson Greer talked to the New York Times about the current issues that created the fracture in negotiations. I will outline those aspects below.
CTH readers will note that in 2025 and again earlier this year, our prediction was the USMCA (CUSMA) would dissolve in/around early July, and the U.S. would ultimately end up withdrawing completely in/around August of 2026. I would be remiss if I did not note current events are following a very predictable path.
Trade issues with Canada are irreconcilable against the entitlement that underpins the Canadian economic mindset. You will note these “friction points” do not exist with Mexico; there is a cultural and brutally factual reason for this.
Canada feels entitled to maintain a trade relationship with the USA as if they are a state in our union. However, just like the abusive mentality in any toxic relationship, Canada refuses any reciprocity. Canada maintains protectionist tariffs, non-tariff barriers, quotas against U.S. goods and one-way restrictions on banking, finance, intellectual property and media. The latter part they call “cultural” protection.
Here are the distilled points noted by USTR Greer as explained to the New York Times:
[…] The United States had offered to reduce its tariffs on steel, aluminum and autos, and eliminate a recently imposed tariff on Canadian lumber, before negotiations suddenly collapsed last night, Jamieson Greer, the U.S. trade representative, said Saturday.
In an interview with The New York Times, Mr. Greer detailed previously confidential and unreported elements of the U.S. trade offer to Canada, saying those measures would have given Canada the most preferential treatment of any trading partner.
[…] over the following days, and particularly late into the night Friday, that consensus crumbled. It fell apart over a series of issues that, individually, may have seemed small but collectively represented a big division over issues of importance to both sides.
[…] Mr. Greer said that the Trump administration had pledged to eliminate the 10 percent tariff on softwood lumber that Mr. Trump imposed last year using a provision known as Section 232.
The United States had also offered to reduce a 25 percent tariff on cars that Mr. Trump put in place last year. But because Canada qualifies for a further reduction when the cars contain any amount of U.S. content, the automotive tariffs could have gone as low as 7 percent, he said.
The United States also offered to lower tariffs on metals, one of Canada’s most important priorities.
“The United States was prepared to reduce the tariff on steel from 50 percent to 25 percent for the majority of steel Canada sent to the United States,” Mr. Greer said. Steel would be subject to what is known as a tariff-rate quota system, in which only a certain amount of steel imports would receive that lower tariff.
On aluminum, the United States had offered to reduce its tariffs to 25 percent from 50 percent without such a quota limitation, Mr. Greer said.
For products made with steel and aluminum, like golf clubs and beer cans, the United States offered to cut those tariffs by anywhere from 10 to 25 percentage points, with the lowest tariffs set at 15 percent.
Mr. Greer said that the United States had also offered to suspend the 50 percent tariffs that it brought into effect early Saturday morning on Canadian dairy, wine, hockey sticks and others goods.
“Obviously, we would completely suspend the 50 percent Section 338 tariffs that we were going to apply to 5 percent of Canadian exports,” he said, referring to the tariffs that went into effect Saturday. (Source)
You will note that “metals” are of keen interest to Canada. That is because Canada relies on imported metal product, rolled steel, aluminum ingots etc., as an outcome of their energy policy.
Canada could not/would not promise to stop Chinese steel being transshipped into auto parts & then into the U.S. market. Why? Because the U.S. requires a strict “melt and pour” rule.
Steel and aluminum must be melted and poured in North America to qualify for preferential treatment. This stops Chinese steel from entering Canada, getting light processing, and crossing the border as “North American” content to evade tariffs.
Why is this a problem for Canada specifically (not Mexico)? Well, steel and aluminum cannot be made without coal and gas (heavy carbon emissions), because the core issue is heat (joules) for the melting. You cannot make molten metal from renewable energy, (ie. windmills and solar farms) you need massive heat (oil, gas, coal). It’s simple science, you need joules.
Canada’s energy policy, climate change stuff, is about the creation of electricity and non-carbon emissions. They have decarbonized their industry, and as a consequence have disconnected their ability to melt metal. That’s why they import rolled steel and cast aluminum ingots from China.
Their choice to decarbonize is exactly why Steel and Aluminum tariffs against Canada are structurally irreconcilable.
♦ So, what’s going to happen?
Last year and earlier this year I pegged August of 2026 as the likely USMCA (CUSMA) termination and then ultimately withdrawal date. Think about it, if Canada refuses to reject ‘climate change’ and Canada refuses to accept tariffs, well, there is no option for a USMCA renewal.
Yes, it really is that structurally deliberate.
If I was to update my predicted schedule, I would now say President Trump is waiting for Canada to announce their retaliatory measures. It doesn’t make sense to wait until Canada announces retaliation and then just go up a notch from 50% to 75%, then they hit again and you go from 75% to 100% etc. etc.
It just makes more sense to call it quits, make the announcement and withdraw completely from the USMCA. That would tell Carney the six-month clock is now ticking. Then go back and finish a bilateral agreement with Mexico.
Eventually the reality will set in for Canada, and the collapse of the Canadian dollar (CAD) will begin as predicted by the Bank of Canada.
“A cascading series of events could cause a sharp loss of investor confidence and lead to a spike in demand for liquidity or rapid asset sales. Funding markets could come under pressure, and stress could spread more broadly.” {source}
Additionally, Lori Turnbull, a political scientist at Dalhousie University in Halifax, Nova Scotia, previously said that reopening the USMCA or trying to structure a bilateral deal to replace it reflects the impossibility for Canada of fully or even substantially replacing the United States as a trade and economic partner.
“Canada is going to have to find a way to deal with this, and the American are still going to put on the tariffs,” Professor Turnbull said. “We’re in the weak position and they can call the shots.” (link)
As a consequence, when Canada crawls back to the table for their bilateral discussion, they will end up with the exact terms they just rejected.


Let me explain the technical problem for US/Canada/Mexico trade and why this trade dispute is so consequential.
NAFTA 2.0 essentially treats North America as one giant market. Not absolutely but lots of benefits afforded to counter parts inside not afforded to countries outside.
China recognizes the US has become much more restrictive on trade with China. So China says, I can still get the benefit of trade with the US by routing my trade through Mexico or Canada.
Oddly enough, the US is saying to Mexico and Canada, we want the assurance that when we buy a product that says Made in Mexico it is made in Mexico with as many non-Chinese parts as possible, by non-Chinese workers, and by non-Chinese firms. It’s kind of amazing that Canada objects to that idea.
What is notable is that Mexico has actually cooperated with the United States on these trade issues. This is not to say they are perfect no country is, even the US is not, but Mexico has decided very clearly its interests are best served by blocking Chinese activities like trans-shipment. US-Mexican trade is booming.
Conversely, Canada is actively undermining US interests by signing deals with Beijing and rejecting American requests to block and take actions on things like trans-shipment, high risk imports, and money laundering just to name a few. You can rail against the US and Trump all you want but the basic requests are not burdensome or anything draconian.
If Canada really wants to align itself as the conduit for Beijing into the North American market, that is your sovereign right to pursue that course of action. It is also the US sovereign right to say we disagree with that and will not bind ourselves to your agreements with Communist China. Sorry not sorry
Balding is great! I find him via nitter and am so proud of myself that SD checks him out too. 🙂
As is known, to find the truth, follow the money
When I follow the ccp “money” I get to Hong Kong
Then I get to
The City of London
Oddly enough
When one seeks the origins of Marx and Hitler’s “money”
Once again
One arrives at
The City of London
But when I say this I get hammered in the replys
Its not the Jews
But it is Bankers
And they Hate Free Nations
Which are Free People
The World’s Governments are all in debt to the point of bankruptcy
Financial Security
Is indeed
National Security
One could rephrase
Financial Freedom
Is
National Freedom
When people start focusing on financial accountability
For Governmental Administrations
Then solutions may be found
But as long as people focus on political theatre
Its just a merry go round
The main problem is everyone is so sure about how money works
They don’t validate if they are correct
So
Its still a merry go round
The banks in China dwarf anything left in the “City of London”.
>30 yrs international asset management
You are incorrect
Do not confuse
“Money”
With
Liquidity
Securities
Bonds
London
Is Not
The City of London
No more than
District of Columbia
is Washington
Financial Jurisdictions
Can be geographical
But don’t have to be
Instruments
Can have Jurisdictions in and of
Themselves
Bankers and PRC is a bit like globalists and islamists. Both working in the same direction but clearly of the opinion the other party in their arrangement is a useful tool to be discarded once the objective is gained.
Always messy, as in the example of the national socialists and international socialists of the 20th century.
Watch what happens when the Democratic Socialists holding the NS (fascists) and the IS (communists) apart are overwhelmed.
Is the USA supporting the entire world so they can all have their palaces and yachts????
Sounds like I am reading the thoughts of Charlie McKenzies dad from So I Married an Axe Murderer.
All the major currencies are fiat; it isn’t money, it’s debt. Corporations can only issue debt. The United States of America (incorporated) is no different and the Federal Reserve Note is an I.O.U. The labor of men and women in this system is the only true value in this illegal system. Look up Peonage.
Mexico loves this all! Foundries, Manufacturing, Income increases. It is cheaper to do all of this in Mexico than even China! This could change Mexico and central America forever. Let Canada suck wind.
Metric China Mexico Canada
Ave Mo Salary ~$1,400USD -$1,000 -$4,100
Standard 40 hrs 48 hrs 40 hrs
Work Week
Very glad to See Sundance touch on the
Pour and mold
Ingot and roll
The entire effort at getting away from coal
Is to kill foundries and Metal Production
Thus killing defense infrastructure
Not just defense… any infrastructure. And what happens when you have no money and a trade deficit so huge you cannot but the imports, ! Such regressive outlook.
China cannot be trusted to ship us their metals filled with substandard production. Every item could collapse.
Please rephrase… does not make sense. lol
If Mexico is doing good there seems there would be less incentive for Illegals to come here. Even neighboring countries may want to go there.
That’s a concern, illegals will be fleeing Canada now as they run out of citizen paid “freebies”… don’t come here.
Chinese food – Burritos – Curry
Sundance let me add even more clarity to what you are saying:
What the Trump team is trying to do is get Mexico and Canada up on off their asses and building up their own domestic industry and manufacturing up to make them then less dependent because we’re all better off being far less dependent.
WE as countries, WE as a whole land mass.
Recall how many times POTUS has said “I just don’t want America to be great, I want all countries to be great.” He doesn’t want just Americans to think America First, he wants Mexicans to think Mexico First, Canadians to think Canada First.
BUT Canada is a Socialist country going even further Left following Europe and Mexico is trending right along with all the countries south of them.
Socialism creates very lazy and dependent people, today Canada is showing us that they’d rather think of China First, they’d rather take the lazy way out of this and order in Chinese junk half done, put a few bolts into it and send us this crap- this is not anything that we should be trading with, this mentality, this intellect, and this level of deceit.
We should be working to defund all Socialism, not grow it by trading with them.
We should not be forwarding a business model like this- so to speak. This is not in our own best interest at all.
Mexicans are very different as a people than Canadians are- I am not one bit surprised that Mexico is being far more cooperative, they are more ambitious, they are more Christian, they are wired totally different.
The Canadians are far more like the Europeans and we can see how all negotiations with them go.
They are wired to take the easy way out, preferring to be dependent parasites..
Last: we’re not considering how sold out to China has made themselves. They are likely far more owned by China than we know and that also is showing up here.. Canada stores were filled with Chinese crap 35 years ago when we had far less. Canada is too friggan lazy to do the work it takes to de-couple from China.
They are preferring to stay in bed with China because perhaps they have no choice at this point.
What I’ve explained here is being laid bare in these trade negotiations, these cultural issues, these policies, who wants to move forward and who wants to double down on what isn’t working.
I don’t think you can just lump all “Canadians” together. They didn’t have a sense of nationalism until WWI, much like Australia and New Zealand, but with the significant difference that Canada as a nation is bi-lingual, so those (mainly Anglo-phone) lacking that are frozen out of national affairs. But they are probably closer to Australia and New Zealand than the US in regards to the relationship with indigenous peoples.
Oh yes you can lump them all together, at the end of the day, they are Canadians, they are what they’ve voted to be. They are who they’ve elected.
Which is why Alberta is voting to secede.
When you really get serious about not wanting to be a part of what they ARE, you do something about that- the ones that can do better are choosing to do better- by leaving.
What Alberta is doing is evidence that they are what they are- or they’d not be trying to leave it.
Canada a socialist country? Newsflash for you…the world is socialist. In the USA the government doles out money or tax breaks for the rich and private equity groups. That is socialism. If America was a capitalist nation sports teams would build their own stadiums and training facilities for their benefit.
Newsflash for you: America is being illegally sucked dry By Parasitic Socialist Countries- we are not one- we are the target of them- and we’ve got a Democrat party here that is in bed with all this and a whole lot of RINOs that see the opportunity in this and put that target on our back.
And the sports team are a part of the Democrat party- did you not notice their rainbow flags?
You really need to catch up before you post here.
Ordinary Mexicans are fairly conservative, strongly Catholic, hardworking and family oriented.
But politically Mexico is Leftist. Claudia Sheinbaum is a Leftist, not as left as some but further left than most.
As from the earlier article Sundance, i posted this for our drumpy antagonist Allen, – the melting provision / transshipping issue
Thanks for bringing this out for more to understand
Wonder if ottawa understand why President Trump took maduro and opened up Venezuela, oil lumber minerals come to mind! And the rest of south America.
The United States has been protecting/defending canada from invasion for decades. What country could just put troops and people in the northern half of canada and say this is ours. All they would have to do is become scatters, what would/could canada do?
True, but Venezuela’s mining industry is years away from being viable due to years of neglect like we understand from their oil situation.
Lets face it, the world has been neglected ever since global warming was started.
President Trump is restoring the old machine that was once the world. Trump is the only true progressive on the world stage. All the rest are regressives (going backward) to the dark times.
This technical problem is the crux of the issue and it has been since NAFTA. It is not an “eleventh hour issue” raised by the U.S. team or any of the other non-sequiturs claimed by Canada. Mexico appears to be more interested in maintaining employment levels in Mexico, rather than in China.
For some inexplicable reason, other than Canada childishness, they act as if they are OWED ongoing, decades long, special economic treatment against our own citizens’ businesses and profits. ALSO, the additional $BILLIONS of annual welfare they had been gifted FOR SOME UNKNOWN REASON!
I am a bit late catching up on all of this – I just read this further down in the excellent Blume twitter. links
https://globalnews.ca/news/11857814/donald-trump-tariffs-steel-companies-settlement/
The date is May 20, 2026 (3 months ago) – it epitomises exactly what Canadian companies have been up to.
“Canada is the Jason Arday of nations.”
Now that right there is funny!!
…..And sadly, a perfectly wry incisive observation.
SS/DD
I had to google that name. Oh ok Vaseline face!
me too…bill
A lot of talk this morning in Canada about punching a bully in the nose. Too bad their government hobbled themselves first before picking a fight with a much bigger opponent.
even their “right leaning” politicians could not set aside their pride and hurt feelings long enough to win and then maybe have a chance at fixing the basketcase.
this should have been a cut and dry, simple equation for them… but trump said some mean words on twitter once… so here they are pretending to be victims, telling themselves a david and goliath story instead of thinking rationally.
good luck with all that.
Admitting that you have been lied to is difficult for most people.
Sometimes I wonder if Trump’s “mean tweets” are meant to create such a stir to help direct negotiations as he desires?
I will correct your typing error, “trump” President Trump.
All the Canadians I ever met had a very high (and undeserved) opinion of themselves.
We have a great number of humble, sensible, God-fearing Canadians in the Treehouse Community.
We have never met them face to face but we meet with them virtually everyday.
May God bless and protect each and every one of them.
For sure Bruce, of course I know there are lots of good ones. The ones I met were in a couple business deals that I walked away from and the rest on vacations over the years.
The attitude was a strong sense of superiority over my husband and me because they are Canadian and we are American. I suspect it’s those superior ones that make their way into gov’t leadership.
You mean they seemed like Democrats?…..just from canaduh?
they are far more alike to euros than they are to us. let them wallow with their new friendships.
Yep, the one my sister married swore his poo didn’t stink and he married into a family of losers.. Did I mention he skipped out on his child support before he scurried back to Canada?
I am a Canadian and I agree with Treehouse
I deal with Canadians on a regular basis- they are assholes- like huge ones.
They come to my state, sit on my beach that is awesome because of my tax dollars and then treat me like shit at my own beach when I wind up stuck sitting next to them all day.
If they learn you support Trump, they will be openly hostile to you as they are in your state as foreigners there.
When I learned about that Canadian woman that punched the NJ teenager- I wasn’t one bit surprised, this is what they are like- that is not any isolated or rare mentality, THIS is how they are.
They are snobs that are dumb as bricks and yet they think they are really something else.
It’s a sight to behold dealing with these people, we cannot stand them.
Hope to meet you at Ray’s sometime, NHnative!
We are not all like that!
Are they typically from Ontario?
In my area, we get the ones mostly from Quebec and Toronto.
I repeat myself, but I stronly believe we should build a northern wall. When CAN economy goes south, people will get desperate, and the TDS-USA hatred will greatly increase, plus fetnanyl crap. We need to get a plan going. Build. A. Wall. The majority of Canadian have TDS. It onlytakes a few hostile actors to do great damage.
There is a draft coming to fight and die for Israel. Let’s not close off that border just yet.
Ok, except along Alberta’s border?
Absolutely.
I strongly agree with you MaineCoon and have been shouting this from the rooftops for a couple decades here in NH, many of us feel this way and always have- what Canada is all about is not any recent development, they’ve always been what they are..
It’s just that thanks to Donald Trump, the whole country now knows what all of us Canada bordering states have always known and dealt with.
What is particularly concerning to us here in NH is knowing how far gone both VT and NY are and our concern is that they don’t police their own borders in a way that we’d agree with.
Maine is another story but because of the scale of that border, this is in fact another entire story all of its own.
But to your larger point, not nearly enough attention has ever been paid to our Northern border and it’s every bit as critical as our Southern Border but the nation at large doesn’t seem to get this critical situation.
China sees all this.
Excellent to-the-point summary from someone with a bird’s eye view, especially since the blue-bordering states are a detriment to the issues. If enough of us keep posting this, maybe some will really begin to contemplate a northern wall. Thank goodness we have oceans on our east & west!!
I’m from Arizona and can agree with you 100%, NH. When the snowbirds flock in to Tucson and Phoenix and Benson and Willcox the social atmosphere at our local halls, golf courses and water parks becomes sullen with their arrogant poses and loud opinions.
I am a camp host at a SE Arizonan RV park and people from the all over the world pass under my nose every year. I’ll take an energetic Pashtun family with six kids over a pair of posh, talkative Toronto-ans any ol’ day.
The ones from Toronto are the absolute worst- I totally get it.
I could tell you stories all day long about how they are around here- in their million dollar RVs here in NH at our seacoast, they basically feel we all should go home when they arrive -to leave the entire beach for them.
This is their attitude..
Not to mention the Canadian Snowbird RVers brought their RV shite with them causing an e. Coli outbreak. I know bc I worked on a foodborne defense law firm team that handle e. coli outbreaks back then. I billed a ton of hours digging deep into Arizona public records. I’d never seen such a cover up done…from local…up to state level. Everything erased from public view.
Won’t go into more other than to say…I have a very negative viewpoint of Canadian Snowbird RVers and Arizona elected officials…and Maricopa elections in 2020 bore it all out. I live in the most corrupt county – Fulton County GA. I consider Maricopa second most corrupt. We’ll see how things go for both ’26 & ’28. You have my sympathy. Maybe after the great USA reports during the World Cup you’ll get more USA RVers.
We get plenty of Canadians in Hawaii, no problem with them. Probably as a group better than Californians but I don’t think they spend as much.
Perhaps. I could say the same for too many Americans who vote Left, and still can’t name the Vice President of the U.S. or find Iran on a map.
Ignorant hubris, unfortunately, is an increasing characteristic of electorates in the West, and that by design.
But there is a faithful contingent of Canadian Treehousers and I would never want any of them to feel less than welcome here as the beliefs we share in common – less government, individual empowerment – are more important than any momentary distraction served up by parties looking after globalist interests before that of their own citizens. Think of the “Canadian trucker strike” and don’t for a minute believe that all Canadians reflexively support the posturing of Mark Carney, who is more European, very much in the globalist mold, than Canadian.
J
They probably can’t find the US on a map, either.
What about the claims the US was somehow demanding Quebec stop using French?
They can use Cajuns
How do you answer a vaguery?
…’claims’? …’somehow’?
I thought it silly and unlikely to be true, but was curious if there was any truth in the claim
Nonsensical.🤣 It was Quebec (one single province) demanding that all American dairy products be labeled in French. Just another way to keep US dairy out of Canada.
Sure. Instead they’re all labeled in Spanish.
confront or amuse?
That’s quite the Ukrainian Breadbasket, fraulein!
I suspect that those bags are for her(?) groceries. They must be heavy.
Baby Got Back Bacon.
They are not intelligent people.
This is not sarcasm, it’s true.
I mean if they were so smart, their country wouldn’t be in the condition that it is because it huge and rich with natural resources, Canada could be doing every bit as well as we are- and yet they choose to be a dependent welfare state of leeches.
It looks like Willy Wonka sent the delegation, led by Violet the Blueberry.
The blueberry is Chrystia Freeland, granddaughter of a notorious Ukrainian Nazi and collaborator, whose numerous faults and sins she has always resisted acknowledging or criticizing. I would find it objectionable having to be in the same room with her, much less sitting across from her at a negotiating table.
Just ask Robert Lighthizer
More like ‘la Grose Larde du Aubergine’
‘cuisses de tonnerre’
No Jamieson Greer or Robert Lighthizer there all right.
Thanks for the afternoon humor rewind!!! 🙂
NO way that is the best Canada has to offer. Citizens should look and see something is rigged.
Grimace’s Daughter.
Oxygen thieves of the first water.
How could we forget purple dress….now consulting Z man.
What’s most surprising to me is that
the Chinese Republic of North AmericaCanada hasn’t resorted to calling Trump a racist, homophobe, or islamophobe over this yet.The northern border is wide open, by the way. When is Trump going to do something about that?
Can we finish the southern border wall first? Anyone have any idea where we are on completing it? Just heard “Wheels” Abbott down in Texas stopped construction near the Big Bend Park….
Why can’t we ever finish a project?
Abbott contends his river buoy systems work better along the river, than the Wall would
I don’t understand why they cannot swim under the buoys. Can they NOT swim?
Spent some time hiking in and exploring Big Ben NP a few years ago. There are sections where you can wade across and not get the bottom of your shorts wet. This was January of 2019 so before the winter snow melt had the river flowing full.
Mexicans set up displays of the goods they are selling on the American side and then wait on the Mexican side. When someone shows interest in what they are selling they will wade or ride their horse across to make a sale.
How is a buoy system going to work for this situation? Not sure how a wall is going to work in NP that is tied to the river either.
“Armed with a record amount of congressionally appropriated funding, the Trump administration is ramping up border-wall construction along the U.S. border with Mexico.
According to data from U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP), as of mid-August 2026, about 365 miles of primary border wall, 58 miles of replacement border wall, and 423 miles of secondary border wall either are now under construction or have been completed since U.S. President Donald Trump took office in January 2025. Additionally, according to a report by The New York Times, CBP has awarded $33 billion in construction contracts for other sections of primary border wall. About 644 miles of primary border wall and 75 miles of secondary border wall existed in January 2025.
Altogether, the Trump administration plans to complete 1,200 miles of new primary and secondary border wall, as well as hundreds of miles of vehicle barriers, roads and technology, buoy barriers, and replacement border wall. According to the Times, administration officials are aiming to finish primary-wall construction by the end of 2027, and secondary-wall construction by July 2028.”
https://thenewamerican.com/us/immigration/border-wall-update-construction-underway-1200-miles-planned/
“The northern border is wide open, by the way.”
The Border Patrol here in WNY (Erie & Niagara counties) is doing it’s job.
Vermont is not, Ben B had video…, no fence, officers, cameras, nothing.
Good place to put all the flock cameras maybe.
Friends of our adversaries are what?
Canada is London
London is moslum
Moslums are contrary to the US Constitution
Whatever the circumstances, whatever it is, the moneyed 1% are not our friends
Never have been
Correct. These are the ones that want to reduce the human population by 90% to save the planet. Sounds a bit wasteful; I have a more economical idea: let’s get rid of the moneyed 1% first, redistribute all their stuff, and see if the problem goes away.
As one reads all the legal issues the Canadian Government has added to its related Trade and Domestic Economic environment … presented as reasons the Canadian Government has ensnared itself, precluding agreements with the US …. it is also clear those same laws would have be removed or amended to even allow for joining the open borders and Central Bureaucracy Controlled Environment of the EU.
Even the UN BS Canada favors is actually contrary to the “cultural protection” bent of Canadian Law.
PM Carney is not only gaslighting … he is outright lying by omission.
MNN BREAKING…
* TRADE TALKS BREAK DOWN AFTER PM CARNEY BALKS AT 1,000% TARIFFS ON CHINESE FENTANYL AND TRAFFICKED CHILDREN
“THIS WILL NOT STAND!” VOWS CANADIAN TRADE MINISTER PIERRE BOASBERG
Be funny if it wasn’t true.
IK,R?
I don’t think that Canada is trafficking children 🤔
Na, they’re just a pass through for trafficked children
Could a Democratic controlled house and/or senate block President Trumps trade agenda? There will be lots of pressure from the Unions to support President Trump but it seems the communists have abandoned the trades for liberal urban dwellers and suburban women with suicidal empathy.
BuckNutGuy: “Could a Democratic controlled house and/or senate block President Trumps trade agenda?”
Those many RINO Republicans in Congress who are owned by K Street lobbyists would be more than happy to see the Trump trade agenda reversed. And so the Dems are certain to give it a shot, counting on RINO Republicans in both houses of Congress to assist them in overriding a Trump veto of their anti-Trump legislation.
In other words, RINO Republicans (how many are there besides the ones we know of) serve their K Street constituencies/employers..and not the voters in the districts which sent them to DC to ostensibly work on their behalf.
We are simply a means to an extremely profitable and wealth creating end for the whole of Congress…with the exception of perhaps a single digit few. And we are taxed to the hilt for the “privilege” of sitting in front row seats, watching them extend a collective middle finger in our direction.
And that of the only man who is actually watching America’s back.
I think the RINOs are not going to be the force they once were. We have seen that in the past year or so with how many have been defeated in primaries or have decided to resign. Look at Indiana’s state senate for a prime example.
Only with veto proof legislation.
Anything is possible with the assanine congress. If they try it, President Trump has to utter just one word…EMBARGO
Thanks for the explanation on this Sundance. I’d rather be Trump than Carney right now… Well. I’d always rather be Trump .. LOL
<Canada cannot stop Chinese steel being transshipped into auto parts & then into the U.S. market because the U.S. requires a strict ‘melt and pour’ rule.>
My favorite bartender had that same policy on Grasshoppers 🙂
Ahhhhh…childhood memories 🤣 🥴 ……a digestif my parents would concoct “for dessert” usually at large family gatherings, when they wanted us kids “to bed early”……
TMI…..? 🤪
LOL !
“Well, steel and aluminum cannot be made without coal and gas (heavy carbon emissions), because the core issue is heat (joules) for the melting. You cannot make molten metal from renewable energy….”,
This statement is really not correct. Steel can be made in electric arc furnaces. I’m not saying that so called “renewables” can be a reliable as a source for the electricity. In fact Australia has learned that fact the hard way in aluminum production which BTW requires a much lower temperature to make than steel.
However you do need coke to make steel no matter what the source of the heat is.
I don’t know if the Canadians encourage nuclear power but it would seem that way. If that’s true we might want to follow their lead. And as you suggest that could solve a lot of their concerns.
Canada developed a unique reactor design, known as CANDU.
Many Canadians seem to be weary of small nuclear reactors, from what I’ve read. And those in the Maritime area aren’t contesting the 180 monster windmills soon to be installed along the coast.
<However you do need coke to make steel…>
rah explains ‘the real thing’ 🙂
Well played.
“aluminum production which BTW requires a much lower temperature to make than steel.”
The temperature might be lower for melting purposes; however, production of aluminum from the bauxite ore requires huge amounts of electricity. Ontario generates significant amounts of electric power from hydropower along the Niagara and St. Lawrence rivers.
There is also significant hydropower production out of Quebec. There is not enough hydropower resources available to do everything, though.
“…Two individuals, Paul Heroult and Charles Hall, redefined the aluminum creation process in 1886. The engineer and student recognized the reduction of molten aluminum oxide in cryolite was effective for making aluminum using electric power. The Hall-Heroult process is a primary way of making aluminum in the 21st century. Another method for producing aluminum was discovered by Karl Josef Bayer in 1888. The Bayer process involves heating bauxite and an alkali mixture to create aluminum….”
https://harboraluminum.com/aluminum-process/
And wind and solar supply enough electricity to operate arc furnaces reliably?
Also – interesting article about the predictable failure of “green hydrogen” projects
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/energy/another-project-canceled-costly-failures-green-hydrogen-continue-mount
Shades of Solyndra . . .
The ONLY way you’ll get useful energy involving Hydrogen:
In addition to the reciprocal integer squared electronic energy states of atomic hydrogen, hydrogen possesses integer squared electronic energy levels corresponding to 1/p replacing n in the Rydberg formula, corresponding so-called hydrino stateof hydrogen. Atomic hydrino, hydrino hydride ion, and molecular hydrino have been produced in the laboratory and analyzed by over 23 methodologies and spectroscopies at numerous laboratories.
And how do you produce enough electricity to make the arc except with coal, gas or hydro? So yeah, your statement is not really correct either. Nuclear is another option, but until that comes online, you are still using electricity made by the previously mentioned methods.
The point is that you can’t make that quantity of reliable electricity with a fleet of windmills or square miles of solar panels.
Only a coal-fired,
gas-fired, oil-fired, or nuclear power plant can do it.
The electric arc furnaces are used to recycle scrap; they’re not suited for ore smelting.
Canada IS a foreign country, it’s a Socialist country- we have almost nothing in common with Canada at all anymore given the even harder turn to the Left they’ve made.
Canada grows to be more and more of a problem for us- not an asset.
So why on earth is there any comparison at all- even made in jest- with American Statehood?.
And to top it all all, there isn’t even anything we really need in Canada.
I’d say that any and all trade we decide to do with these ungrateful heathens should be considered generous on our part.
Most all Americans with proper functioning brains are not all that happy with Canada anymore at all.
I know here in NH we are thoroughly disgusted with their Medically assisted death celebration and we hammer it hard on our local news blog. If Canada sunk into the earth tomorrow and disappeared, we’d be thrilled.
Let me be clear: my state directly borders Canada, people that understand Canada well do not like Canada.
“…we have almost nothing in common with Canada..,” what? We have a very very very long common border.
Believe me, I know all about that border.
We have nothing in common with the people that inhabit Canada today.
Canada has changed drastically since I was a kid in southeast Michigan
Shares border with the “LIVE FREE or DIE ” state…… a divine pun…..?
Socialists (Bolsheviks) at the gate……
You see this ?
https://thepostmillennial.com/toronto-wnba-team-unveils-new-trans-mascot-with-she-they-pronouns-amid-ongoing-pr-crisis-over-male-participation/?cfp
Canada is like the US having Obama for 8 years, Hillary for 8 years, and then Harris. We will be like that if the Democrat/Communists get back in power. We will have a border wall up North if Alberta does not secede.
“there isn’t even anything we really need in Canada.”
fortunately i have always thought canadian whiskey and beer is TERRIBLE.
i am sure we could use some lumber and oil, but their entire identity is now wrapped around not using those resources wisely, so… good luck with those BYD cars and fentanyl, snow mexicans.
Now I guess they brew Labatts Blue in the old Genesee brewery in Rochester which seems to be about the only beer I see in upstate NY.
If we wanted these Chinese goods, we could negotiate a better deal, directly with Beijing and cut out the middle man. There is no value added, by purchasing them through a third party, Canada.
If Carney had any damn sense, he would negotiate a deal on those Canadian goods that the US does want and sell his second hand Chinese stuff to someone else. But, of course, if Canada has no access to the US market, then their deal with Beijing falls to pieces, eh?
One thing about Communists if the policies are failing, they double down on those policies. Their DNA does not allow them to change course. “They” are always the ones that will make Communism successful. The CCP has destroyed China and that is with much of the world giving them free access to manufacture everything. Communism cannot tolerate success.
thats what always confuses me… i am sure there is a big masterful economic methodology behind it all, but…
you WON’T extract and use your own massive raw materials and compete legitimately alognside the US or russia… but your entire concept of becoming a bigtime economy is in receiving a bunch of cheap crap, slapping new labels on it, and then sending it along?
thats your powerhouse economy?
“As a consequence, when Canada crawls back to the table for their bilateral discussion, they will end up with the exact terms they just rejected.”
I question if that will be the case. IMO Canada will come crawling back but I would not be surprised if the terms are even harsher on them because of their nasty rhetoric (They are after all at war with us according to the PM and his supporters) and then there is the question of their yet to be revealed tariffs and economic response to the current situation.
Trump is a pragmatist. A good deal for us is a good deal for us.
The first deal is always the best deal. Turn that down and the terms keep getting worse.
My suspicion is that Carney’s strategy of pressuring Trump through his supporters in Congress, D’s and R’s alike, hinge on using the November election to compose both House and Senate bodies filled with 218 + 67 members who would vote to impeach and convict Trump, respectively.
Because that is the only move he has left with his hand he’s holding.
So if the Senate were to be evenly split, how many Treepers think there are fewer than 17 Rinos/TrumpHaters in the US Senate who would vote to convict a lame-duck PDJT? Thune, the rest got his back this time?
That’s Carney’s play. And without SAVE and election results that are too big to rig I think his play has a more likely than not chance of making his poor hand a winning one.
Too big to rig needs to extend downballot this year into congressional, Senate races. Requiring candidates and campaigns that know what time it is for the US, MAGA.
YipYip: “My suspicion is that Carney’s strategy of pressuring Trump through his supporters in Congress, D’s and R’s alike, hinge on using the November election to compose both House and Senate bodies filled with 268 + 67 members who would vote to impeach and convict Trump, respectively.”
The impeachment and subsequent conviction of Donald Trump is the Democrat’s number one priority on their post-victory 2027 Congressional agenda.
They will have the support of ‘X’ number of RINO Republicans in the Senate who want to see Donald Trump quickly removed from office and the entire MAGA movement given a shattering political defeat which it cannot ever recover from.
How large is that figure ‘X’ of Senate RINO Republicans who would vote for conviction? My guess is that it is a lot larger than most people might think.
Our guesses are similar.
Note: I typo’d 268 in original post, corrected to 218 since you quoted.
I agree that is their delusion. I say delusion, not because it isn’t possible but because Carney is in the position of “shooting the moon” where it only takes on person at the card table to make a unexpected move to completely screw your plan.
Another analogy: carney is at that point in Risk where all at the table look at the board and realize alliances have suddenly changed. Each player re-evaluates the board and realizes they individually benefit from throwing old alliances under the bus and joining with now ex adversaries.
Carney is playing a losing hand. All of the wealthy businessmen in Canada, US, China and Europe just tilted their chins and reevaluated their next move. In the end this is about power and money and Carney has neither.
To summarize, Trump has already changed the playing board to the point where too many powerful, wealthy players benefit from the new deals that are on the table.
The old is old and the new is new. Even though our corrupt senators may stand to benefit if they could be rid of Trump, they can not rely on the fact their old Allies will have their back – or not be willing to stab them in the back, if they or their supporters threaten their new deals.
Carney’s real interest is Brookfield. He sees himself as another Oracle. He has already stolen millions from the Canadian people and diverted it to Brookfield. Brookfield has $23 billion invested in China, another economy in trouble. Carney has never recovered from his failure to destroy the $ U S dollar. He is a slippery customer and the Canadian media worships him. His popularity reached 57%, the highest in history.
Carney works for the British Crown . His oath of office was to a British king. Canada is still just a British realm.
💯 🎯 Spot on! “…in Brookfield” because it’s his chosen pathway 😉 to his only goal of becoming a billionaire.
He’ dangerous because he’s solely focused on his own wealth, financially smart, connected globally at the highest levels, and pure evil.
More here (3 posts):
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2026/08/18/president-trump-pauses-50-percent-tariffs-against-canada-hours-before-effect/#comment-12760470
the Canadian media worships him.
They have to. Government money is the only thing keeping the Canadian MSM out of bankruptcy.
Sundance, bless your works. How does this integrate into the kerfuflfe? Note that through Ken Salazar and Obama, the North American Continent was divided into regions, same as the UN accomplished in the United States in 1970. This is the information included under the MAP:
– The Landscape Conservation Cooperative map is a US Government map and shows how North America has been divided up into 22 regional “cooperatives” as per DOI (Ken Salazaar), Secretarial Order No. 3289. LCC’s still receives continued Congressional Funding. These LCC’s are really really important and few people are paying attention to what they are doing and the impact they have. Trump could not get rid of them even though he tried doing so in his 2016 DOI budget.
Money does not care who governs any country its reason for existing is only to multiply itself and you will find it where that can happen be it Hitlers Germany or be it China
The Loonie Is About to Pay for Ottawa’s Pride
Why USD/CAD is headed for 1.44-1.46 if this trade fight drags past two weeks – and why Europe won’t escape the fallout either
https://billcara.com/posts/the-loonie-is-about-to-pay-for-ottawa-s-pride
Thanks for posting
they only spew what is handed to them by the leftist/commie TDS infidels – Hope he gets run over by a heard of Moose
Waiting for the snow Mexicans to make the claim “We are part of the big tent” as the feel they belong and are owed.
He is correct. The President’s “family” are all the (legal) citizens of this glorious nation.
Who the f÷=/ is this clown?
To put this in perspective. Carny has decided to raise Canadian prices to protect Canadian workers from…..higher Canadian prices. There is a reason they call in the Loonie.
Georganne Burke is a political strategist with extensive experience in both U.S. and Canadian politics. She lays it out nicely.
Watched this about an hour ago. I agree with her, corny is playing politics and the canadians will suffer for it. I like she pointed out corny says he is european, so the of canada except that they have a person saying he is a foreigner running their country.
In other words, canadians except they are not sovereign but are slaves.
Always been, always will
Watched this yesterday. Very hard to find amidst the deluge of “Canada strong” videos.
It seems to me that Carny will being selling Canada bit by bit to China. He will replace the economic loss of trade with the USA by borrowing from China with Canadian assets as collateral. At some point the loan will come due and China will acquire those assets.
These Canadians sound like spoiled children when someone finally makes them follow the rules.
Where is Allen and Allen 1, come out to play dumpy!!
He’s probably brain storming with his Elbows Up Team and will be back with the approved talking points.
“Economic security is national security – period.”
This is true, but, so long as the masses rely on government to define “national security” for them, they will never achieve economic security. Any belief otherwise is nonsense and a fairy tale for adults.
I may have missed it, but I didn’t see where Greer disputed the Canadian claim that the talks collapsed because of “last minute” new demands by the US side.
The talks did not “collapse”. Carney walked away.
Seems like the same thing 🤔
Allen the schill posted that tripe in the other thread. Just plain out trash
He’s afraid to come here, I even dared him
Perhaps it wasn’t worth disputing. Particularly if the allegation wasn’t true. See Sundance’s post on this very subject.
Imagine being in a position of strength such as where the USA sits. America holds all of the cards.
Why would we reach and agreement with Canada and then turn around and ask for more after the handshakes are given? If we wanted more then we would have continued to fight for those points.
The party in the weak position always agrees to the terms and then tries to weasel out of them and ask for more. They figure that the USA showed weakness by having a handshake agreement so why not ask for more.
Look at Iran. These losers nod their heads in agreement and within hours violate the terms of the agreement.
We don’t need Canada. We would like Canada to be an independent economic powerhouse but they want to be a Chinese/City of London vassal state.
This is one of those things!
China and Canada. Canada is not so smart, if they would look at the other countries china does agreement with and the end result you would see countries denuded of all resources and told pay us the debt you owe and do it now. But what is left to pay them with, you have no money of worth no resource left, what’s left the country itself the dirt. And you can be sure the chinese would begin to ship in 10’s of millions of replacements, with weapons by the way. Canada’s future.
Will the United States allow it? Not likely! President Trump is going to secure this hemisphere one way or another.
Before you know it Canada will import from China to sell to Europe….
and Europe will import from China to sell to Canada.
😁
Perfect as we all have been outlining from your stories on this here. Always out in the open. The pretenders tried to pretend they didn’t see and lie with impunity
Is it possible that Canada does not know that CUSMA as they call it is going away? What will we be the reaction then?
Canada is a major primary aluminum producer (around 3–3.3 million tonnes annually in recent years, ranking about 4th globally) due to abundant low-cost hydroelectric power, especially in Quebec. natural-resources.canada.ca
Production is energy-intensive, so facilities are located near cheap, renewable hydropower (over 90–96% of Canadian primary aluminum is hydro-powered), giving it a relatively low carbon footprint compared to coal-powered producers like China.
thecanadianencyclopedia.ca
Canada imports bauxite concentrates and alumina (valued at about $3.0 billion in 2024, or roughly 28% of aluminum-related imports).
natural-resources.canada.ca
Bauxite (aluminium ores and concentrates): Main sources in 2024 included Brazil (largest share, around 55% by value/volume), Guinea (around 34%), Turkey, Guyana, and smaller amounts from others.
wits.worldbank.org +1
Alumina (aluminium oxide): Dominated by Brazil (roughly 65–72% in recent data), followed by Australia (around 24–28%), with smaller volumes from Jamaica, the United States, and others. oec.world +2
In short, Canada’s aluminum industry is built on imported bauxite/alumina refined and smelted locally with hydro power, rather than domestic mining of the ore. A potential large alumina deposit has been noted in Saskatchewan, but it is not currently a production source.
Canadian Energy Metals Corp. (CEM), a private Canadian company, owns the Thor Project (the large potential alumina resource near Tisdale in northeastern Saskatchewan). Roughly 1,000+ years of supply for Canada’s current primary aluminum production needs.
Don’t look for Carney to move heaven and earth to give the project a jump start.
I think I get it now. To summarize: Canada is the immature 40-year-old nephew who has moved out of Uncle Sam’s basement where he has been freeloading FOR YEARS and has moved into China Xi’s basement where he can continue his freeloading lifestyle. Taking care of yourself, standing on your own two feet as a responsible grownup, just takes too much energy, is exhausting and really cuts into your video game playing !
In short order, when the USMCA exit hammer drops, fireworks will start in Canada: CAD$, many foreign investors will pull out & come to USA, bond market, inflation up. Things will turn sour fast.
Unbelievable, yet predictable…how’s that climate change working for ya? Windmills still workin?
Where’s Trudeau living these days? Expect in time Carney will be leaving Canada.
https://xcancel.com/mario4thenorth/status/2091586048883093779#m
https://xcancel.com/mario4thenorth/status/2091587455661051942#m
https://xcancel.com/dmrkwame/status/2091591092424634512#m
Run on the banks…Except it won’t end like “It’s a Wonderful Life.”
Gullible Pretending Snow Mexicans: “Better to get half than none” running to Potter
Donald Trump/George Bailey: ” i beg you not to do this, we can get by this, your money is in your neighbors house, and his is in yours”
I wonder what effect this development will have on Wall Street 🤔
We’ll know in about 4 hours when futures open for trading.
Brian Lilley
@brianlilley
Interesting.
This clapback on Jamil Jivani comes from Kyle Seeback, a longtime Conservative MP and currently Labour Critic for Pierre Poilievre. It’s also been reposted by James Moore, a longtime Harper cabinet minister.
Cont….
https://xcancel.com/brianlilley/status/2091596475918622750#m
++++
Referenced article:
Jivani calls Carney’s dollar-for-dollar tariff response an ‘overreaction’ that will ‘accelerate conflict’
https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/jivani-calls-carneys-dollar-for-dollar-tariff-response-an-overreaction-will-accelerate-conflict
https://xcancel.com/jamiljivani/status/2091025338805768237#m
Canada has no choice but to crawl back. Maybe it happens before the end of USMCA is announced, maybe after.
It would be appropriate for Trump to negotiate with individual provinces, not the Canadian feds. Reason being that Canadian provinces have inter-provincial tariffs and they have demonstrated that they will exercise trade policy individually (booze bans).
The border is awfully long. The US will have to manage it piecemeal.
oh, but they do have choices.
economic collapse is one, complete alliance with China is another.
they could also go begging to the EU for money,
or lean on their like-minded allies to lean on the U.S.
or, they could commit to doing the work,
and modify their Green Agenda so that they can support themselves.
they can also start bi-lateral trade deals with countries
not prohibited by US sanctions to keep the Canadian economy afloat.
none of the above are easy options for Canada, but that is rather the point.
what CANADA chooses determines how the USA responds.
they will take a beating no matter what,
but some good faith moves instead of heated rhetoric might help them a lot.
PT is not a vindictive man, for him it’s just business –
yeah, kinda like The Godfather “business”, but still, just business.😂🤣
Buh-bye, 🍁
President Trump shouldn’t even bother with this distraction any longer. Canada chose it’s fate.
Let them live with the results. They will lose jobs, we will gain jobs. Enough said.
History shows us what happened to a USA neighbor who spurned trade with the USA and became an economic dependency of a communist country. Canada is on a similar economic path previously trod by Cuba.
Lots of fist pumping and bravado from Carney.
Carney is so sure that President Trump will capitulate. Does he not realize that acting as a conduit for China to evade tariffs for them is a slap in the face to a country that is supposed to be their ally?
I sincerely hope that President Trump stands firm.
Canada has to realize that what we stop purchasing from them we will produce for ourselves with other countries that are more than willing to bring their factories here. President Trump has already signed deals that will potentially bring trillions of dollars to our coffers along with employing thousands of American workers.
Has Carney been asleep while President Trump has been producing results without them?
The planet you are trying to “save” is unimpressed. The emissions necessary to “melt and pour” your (sic …) stuff are still being emitted.
Sundance, I’m curious where we’re going to get our softwood from, (species like spruce and fir which are often preferred by builders in certain regions over domestic Southern pine), since Canadian softwood lumber makes up about 24–30% of the U.S. softwood market and Canada accounted for 84.3% of all softwood lumber imports to the U.S ?
My guess is that the tariffs on Canadian softwood will force the people involved in harvesting the softwood to decide how much of the tariffs they want to absorb into their bottom line in order to keep the prices the same in the USA or do they just pass the tariff amount onto the US market and let the price increase.
If they choose the latter then that may make purchasers of softwood in the USA switch to preferring domestic Southern Pine because it is cheaper than Canadian.
It sounds like the Canadians have been dumping their softwood onto the US market by undercutting prices which has made builders be willing to put a less expensive product into the homes they build. They probably only chose Canadian wood because it was cheapest.
𝐃𝐔𝐅𝐅𝐘: 𝐂𝐀𝐍𝐀𝐃𝐀 𝐇𝐀𝐒 𝐍𝐎 𝐌𝐈𝐋𝐈𝐓𝐀𝐑𝐘, 𝐑𝐄𝐂𝐎𝐑𝐃 𝐄𝐔𝐓𝐇𝐀𝐍𝐀𝐒𝐈𝐀, 𝐅𝐀𝐈𝐋𝐈𝐍𝐆 𝐇𝐄𝐀𝐋𝐓𝐇𝐂𝐀𝐑𝐄—𝐘𝐄𝐓 𝐅𝐑𝐄𝐄𝐋𝐎𝐀𝐃𝐒 𝐎𝐍 𝐔.𝐒. 𝐒𝐄𝐂𝐔𝐑𝐈𝐓𝐘
https://nitter.net/MichaelARothman/status/2091599807089709461#m