The tenuous legal theory permitting the U.S. government to conduct surveillance on U.S. citizen data (emails, texts, phone calls, messages etc.) rests on the unconstitutional ability of the government to intercept your “private papers” with the use of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, specifically FISA-702. The “702” aspect is the term for U.S. citizen intercepted.
The authority for the United States government to capture the electronic records of all Americans without warrant falls under the auspices of FISA-702. The current authority expires in April of 2026. The 702 authorities have been abused to conduct political surveillance for just about everything in Washington DC. Millions of unauthorized searches have been identified; it is unconstitutional.
Politico, an outlet for the concerns of the administrative state, begins the new year by noting there is increased resistance to the reauthorization. However, in order to carry out the domestic national security agenda of the Trump administration, the Deep State considers JD Vance, Marco Rubio and others as likely supporters for reauthorization.
(Politico) – […] During the last reauthorization debate in 2024, then-candidate Trump urged Congress to “kill” the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, the larger spy law that Section 702 is nested under. Trump’s decision frustrated supporters of the program — in part because they believe he conflated the foreign-target spy program with the broader surveillance law that was not up for reauthorization.
A crucial Biggs-sponsored House amendment that would have added a warrant requirement for any communications involving Americans failed on a 212-212 tie, with Speaker Mike Johnson casting a rare and decisive vote to kill it.
Now the spy powers fight is a major headache for Johnson, who infuriated privacy hawks with his 2024 amendment vote after having advocated for more surveillance guardrails as a former member of the Judiciary Committee.
Judiciary Committee Republicans — led by Rep. Jim Jordan of Ohio, a close Trump ally — have started discussing how to approach the reauthorization during their weekly meetings. Jordan said in an interview he is again hoping to impose a warrant requirement for searches involving Americans as well as a ban on data brokers selling consumer information to law enforcement.
He said he has “had some discussions over this past year with some members of the administration” on this issue and plans to meet alongside House Intelligence Committee Chair Rick Crawford (R-Ark.) with White House officials on the matter early next year.
Lawmakers on both sides of the debate are carefully watching Crawford, who opposed the warrant requirement in 2024 — along with every other House Intelligence Committee Republican. But Johnson has since added five Republicans to the panel who each voted for the Biggs amendment.
A committee spokesperson said Crawford is working with House leadership, Jordan, the Senate and the administration “to determine the best way forward to extend 702 authority.”
There are still, however, a majority of Intelligence Committee Republicans who are working to extend the program without adding a warrant requirement — and they are hoping administration officials whom they view as allies, including Vice President JD Vance, CIA Director John Ratcliffe and Secretary of State Marco Rubio, will be able to sway Trump. (read more)
Some administrative state defenders will argue this issue with me. However, having researched almost every aspect to the construct, and the argument, I am confident FISA-702 authority underpins the much bigger, quasi-constitutional justification for the wholesale collection of U.S. citizen metadata. Without the 702 authority, the legal justification for the apparatus of surveillance no longer exists. It really is that simple.
The only way the government can justify the capture of U.S. Citizen data is if there is some quasi-constitutional or national security reason for it. That’s where FISA-702 comes in.
Take away “702” search authority, and the data collection argument collapses; ANY “incidental” search of the database then loses any plausible legal justification. 702 is the camel’s nose under the tent that forms the baseline for all data records to be intercepted, stored and ultimately available for review.
This is a very key component to fully understand. Most practical applications of surveillance are contingent upon the capture of electronic records for tracking. Ex. – if domestic travel records are considered private papers (never argued yet), then government agencies have no right to exploit them without a valid search warrant underpinned by a national security justification. The government, not private sector – government, tracking people becomes more difficult if privacy rules are applied.
The legal aspect runs through the 4th Amendment, which -while historically undefined in the modern era- likely stirs in the background of the recent TSA decision to provide a $45 opt-out, for the use of REAL ID in domestic transit (interstate commerce application notwithstanding).
The Fourth Amendment aspect to the ‘warrantless’ government capture of American citizen records has never been fully argued in court; the modern definitions are opaque, and the govt has a vested interest in retaining the untested status quo.
The Intelligence Community (IC) has told Congress, particularly the House and Senate Intelligence Committees, that all hell will break loose if they don’t reauthorize full electronic surveillance of Americans.
Congress has historically been scared of the “seven ways from Sunday” IC. However, now Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard is attempting to change things; specifically change things as they pertain to the domestic use of the intelligence agencies.
As the counterargument is made, House Speaker Mike Johnson, and all of the key participants, are siloed from understanding that 702 has nothing to do with incidental collection of American data, whilst the honorable IC were doing foreign intercepts.
According to intelligence experts, Speaker Johnson and most Republicans believe the IC justification, and perhaps many of them pretend not to know the alternatives. I do not buy this argument, because too much recent evidence exists to sell the story that Congress is unknowing of how this metadata capture is being continually exploited.
The only way to really test congressional knowledge is to question them. No one is questioning them.
In my opinion, the politicians and their key staff pretend they cannot fathom how the FBI, DOJ, NSD, DHS and contractors use this database to conduct political and “other” (think corporate espionage for sale) surveillance. When you engage with them, you realize they really do put on a great show proclaiming the IC is full of honorable rank-and-file, trying to walk a fine line between the 4th Amendment and exploitation. The counter position is akin to them living in a DC bubble.
The IC argument is now something akin to how we have let thousands of terrorists into the country through the southern border crisis. They say: “My god, we need to monitor the terrorists, and if you take away the 702, the foreign terror cells will activate and start killing us all. Do you want that blood on your hands?” You cannot take away surveillance tools.
Then you overlay the FISA 702 reauthorization argument, as used as a bargaining chip by the same people who don’t want to get caught up in the surveillance.
The DC conversations end up like, “Ok, we’ll reauthorize it, but you cannot use it against us – and all the sex parties and perverted stuff we do when no one is around; you must promise to keep our secrets hidden“… Then, just like the 2024 reauthorization change, they exempt themselves.
The IC agree to accept a reauthorization that exempts Congress. The IC keep the process – just promise not to use it against Congress. This outlook is what we see visible in the CR bill extension that included forbidding the FBI from seeking search warrants against Senator’s telecommunications, and this outlook is highlighted by Elise Stefanik demanding that Congress be notified if any federal candidate for office is under investigation. The Big Club protects the Big Club.
Unfortunately, ‘We The People’ do not have many friends in DC on this issue, other than a very small group in/around Tulsi Gabbard’s office, and they are constantly under attack.
The DC UniParty will attempt to reauthorize 702 to continue exploiting their surveillance authority. Do not forget, now we have over 10,000 log-in portals with access to the NSA database exist, including the workstation at Perkins Coie that tied into the NSA database {GO DEEP}.
After spending several years asking every representative of consequence why they support the FISA-702 process, I can tell you every one of them says they believe it is needed, because the IC tells them there are just too many domestic terror threats that need to be monitored.
It is almost impossible to find a person in DC who will forcefully try to stop FISA-702 reauthorization.
If you ask me why in hindsight, I now take the position that FISA-702 is the gateway to the massive surveillance system currently being put into place using Real ID and the AI facial recognition software provided by Palantir (CIA exploit). In essence, the gateway that allows the full-scale surveillance state, is opened by the prior authorization of FISA-702 that negates any 4th Amendment protection.
BIG Why? Because all of the surveillance mechanisms within the network being updated and enhanced by AI search and capture, comes from the IC being allowed to exploit the NSA database. That same database access allowance is the targeting mechanism for FISA-702. If warrantless searches of the NSA database were stopped, the Palantir/IC and Tech Bro collaboration could hit a brick wall.
The significance of this FISA-702 issue is much bigger than most can appreciate.
This surveillance underpinning also reconciles many of the puzzled faces when it comes to who is permitted nomination and who is not. The DC Deep State confirmed both Kash Patel to be Donald Trump’s FBI Director (SSCI), and Pam Bondi to be U.S. Attorney General (SJC). Both Bondi and Patel are expressed believers in the value of FISA-702.
You might even remember this odd question from October of 2025 that came out of nowhere. Attorney General Bondi literally read a script on the issue that was prepared for her. WATCH:
Additionally, the nomination of Tulsi Gabbard to be Director of National Intelligence was initially opposed by the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence (SSCI), until she acquiesced and agreed there was value in the FISA-702 process.
We have a few weeks before things get really ugly, but they will get ugly.
Deals will be cut. Offers will be made. Corruption throughout this argument will run amok.
In the background of every headline, that will surface over the next two months, this issue will enmesh.
We need to watch closely how National Security Advisor Marco Rubio, Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard and Vice President JD Vance respond to the surfacing issues.
All of the modern surveillance mechanisms, within the U.S. government network currently being updated and enhanced by AI search and capture, come from the gateway of 702; ie. govt being allowed to exploit the NSA database against Americans.
If warrantless searches of the NSA database are legally stopped, or no longer authorized, the gate closes and the DHS, Palantir/IC and Tech Bro surveillance collaboration hit a brick wall.

I am with you Sundance. This may end up a God thing to help decide as usual.
The genie is already out of the bottle…..I fear a domestic false flag event in order to get this over the finish line 😉🇺🇸
“If warrantless searches of the NSA database are legally stopped, or no longer authorized, the gate closes and the DHS, Palantir/IC and Tech Bro surveillance collaboration hit a brick wall.”
In theory, yes. In practice, how many Deep State Criminals thus far who’ve serially violated laws over the past decade in a soft coup against President Trump (and violations of the privacy of literally millions of Americans) have been held accountable — and how many clearly-known serial Deep State Traitors have been executed for their overt Treason?
Yes, I’m too young to be so cynical …
“During the last reauthorization debate in 2024, then-candidate Trump urged Congress to “kill” the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, the larger spy law that Section 702 is nested under. Trump’s decision frustrated supporters of the program — in part because they believe he conflated the foreign-target spy program with the broader surveillance law that was not up for reauthorization.” – Sundance
I hope President Trump keeps his opposition to the violation of the 4th Amendment and tries again to “kill” Section 702!! President Trump is right about everything! JMO
Tulsi Gabbard: “My prior concerns about FISA were based on insufficient protections for civil liberties, particularly regarding the FBI’s misuse of warrantless search powers on American citizens. Significant FISA reforms have been enacted since my time in Congress to address these issues.”
She had to lie to the Liars in order to keep her oath to the Constitution. I’m good with that.
“And I will deliver thee out of the hand of the wicked, and I will redeem thee out of the hand of the tyrants.”–Jeremiah 15:21
So. Am. I.
Islam has a word for that, oh and the Democrats, it’s a way of life too, only they are worse than Islamicists.
How did we ever catch the bad guys before the FISA 702 act? Let it expire, it’s like trolling money thru a Somali gang, ten years of fraud with foreigners and FISA hasn’t stopped chit.
It’s called taqqiyah, or taqiyyah, or taqiyah, depending on the site you read it on – lying to unbelievers in defense of Islam is mandatory.
I’ll join you on the hill SD.
Trump can and absolutely should say No. To me I would see it as legacy defining. Trump sealed the border, got the hostages released, and eliminated Fisa 702. You already know the GOP Congress has delivered absolutely nothing and signing off on this bill will only piss off the base and ensure more nothing (positive). Might as well actually fight back. The base is ready for that. If they can overcome your veto so be it. It will help illuminate to low infos who needs to be primaried. We already know all 535 members of Congress should face a well-funded stiff primary because not a darn one is actually representing our interests. Not even one.
That picture with Tulsi and Elon must be photoshopped. But. on the chance it’s real, I want one of those hats.
Maybe we could convince Sundance to start offering merch on this site, starting with that hat. Whadda ya think, Sundance?
Yes!
“The tenuous legal theory permitting the U.S. government to conduct surveillance on U.S. citizen data (emails, texts, phone calls, messages etc.) rests on the unconstitutional ability of the government to intercept your “private papers” with the use of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, specifically FISA-702. The “702” aspect is the term for U.S. citizen intercepted.”
“A republic, IF you can keep it………”
-B. Franklin
“We need to watch closely how National Security Advisor Marco Rubio, Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard and Vice President JD Vance respond to the surfacing issues.”
Emphasis should be placed on Vice President JD Vance and his relationship/history with Peter Thiel and his Palantir Technologies. I expect that collaboration to be the vehicle used in 2028, and beyond, to quietly undo every advancement made by Trump. I view Vance as a smooth talking serpent who was bought out (groomed) by Peter Thiel years ago.
Love the banksy style wolverines
I predict Rubio will be all for it. Even if, by some miracle, the renewal of 702 isn’t rubber stamped by this administration; the next one surely will.
We’re all in their “digital prison” now. So many were investigated, deplatformed, shadow banned, subjected to traffic throttling and content censoring that a class action should be initiated for the unconstitutional violation of civil rights in many people’s opinion.
But nothing is ever done about it so the unconstitutional tyranny and selective persecution by the plutocracy continues year after year, decade after decade.
All of this surveillance is the modern day equivalent of quartering British soldiers in our home and in our everyday life.
What did we do the last time we suffered under such tyranny?
(p.s. and a special hello to the government surveillance scum reading this. God Forgives You (GFY), but no one else does)
There are nuke sniffers all over Nevada.
This will require a lot of prayer and double amounts of calls to the capitol!
The Fourth Amendment went bye-bye in the fall of 2001 with the event that was evidently* a controlled demolition.
* Overwhelming evidence: ae911truth.org
Cui bono: The entity capable of doing this is the same entity that became all-powerful as a result.
All part of moving the US along toward an apparent coming end state:
Diminished quasi-totalitarian component of “multi-polar global governance” with China as veiled head.
Think about everything happening, from that 2001 event to today. Everything is moving the US in that direction, as China continues its relentless industrial/scientific ascent toward de facto hegemony.
“Everything is moving the US in that direction…”
Including the modifications being made to the American people themselves.
A populace weakened by increased neurodegenerative disease, autoimmune disorders, and cancer cannot compete with a strong nation.
https://jessicar.substack.com/p/amyloids-prion-diseases-and-spike
https://www.thefocalpoints.com/p/breaking-our-censored-study-showing
I’m dying on this hill with you Sundance
When they turn the pages of history
When these days have passed long ago
Will they read of us with sadness
For the seeds that we let grow
We turned our gaze
From the castles in the distance
Eyes cast down
On the path of least resistance.
Neal Peart
We either have a constitution, or we do not. If they can go to a FISA Judge for approval, they can go to a regular judge for a regular search warrant. Bush ’43s Patriot Act was and is unconstitutionall.
False Flag justifying FISA 702 in 3, 2, 1, …..
18 U.S. Code § 241 – Conspiracy against rights
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/241
“The authority for the United States government to capture the electronic records of all Americans without warrant falls under the auspices of FISA-702.”
But only if tied to Foreigners, right? Not just any or all Americans, otherwise it would be the American-ISA or the Domestic-IAS 702 surveillance act.
I think you will have a lot of company on that hill from this crowd, Sundance. My fear is that it about as far as it will go. Too many are going to buy the line that it is an effective tool to monitor terrorists. Well, if we know they are terrorists because of the monitoring they have already done, why not round them up and ship them out or at least lock them up.
Is there any way that we can find out whether they are still doing unauthorized 702 searches? I don’t remember how Mike Rogers got his hand on that information. If we can prove that it is being used in violation of the law, we might have a better chance at shutting it down.
It’s my understanding that the IC actually gets a lot of information from private corporations who have garnered/purchased/lobbied/bribed and developed the necessary codes to collect American’s private information and not just entities like Google.
I also am given to understand that the reason Trump says, “We caught them all” is connected to data on HRC’s private server (unresolved) indicating that ALL networking is fitted with an FBI backdoor Hillary controlled on her server. This came out quietly in one of Judicial Watch’s FOIAs that was reported in 2019 by Mike McKibben, the man who developed the code that allowed NETWORKING to become a reality.
From this perspective it appears that the 702 issue is distraction creating controversy to keep us occupied while the real damage continues to run in the background. Ending 702 would not disturb that background data collection in the least.
Frankly, I am beginning to believe all activity by congress is equivalent to NASA in that it is there to entertain while the real surveillance state/ space force intelligence remains undercover and protected. And I know Trump knows.
The government will continue to gather this information with or without authority. What’s to stop it?