During the great cleaving that took place at the end of 2020 and the beginning of 2021, most people identified the root cause as either (a) COVID or (b) the election fraud. While both issues were tools of the Big Tech action, they were not the underlying root motive.
The purposeful cleaving of accounts, websites, voices and ultimately information providers, was intended to scatter source information into the wind, leaving only approved information sources allied with Tech/Govt intentions.
Subsequently, when AI was launched on the various platforms being used by the larger public, the inputs which frame the AI results are controlled by the same people who built the AI systems. When you engage with AI, you are engaging with a system that only has “approved information” behind it to deliver the outputs.
This is what the process looks like.
Remember this the next time you intentionally choose to abdicate your thinking to Groc, OpenAI or ChatGPT.
We see it everywhere now.
Warmest regards comrades.
Re: A I, ‘artificial’ intelligence, rules
Kind of the like the vaxed, to feel good, made up things about the unvaxed:
Are some ai producers about to be making false claims about rational thinkers, doubters, naysayers of ai?
Meanwhile some people want the national defense authorization act (NDAA)
to include a
10 year moratorium upon anyone, states, from making (moral, ethical ) guidelines etc. for a i.
i.e. a rule to prevent anyone from making (moral, ethical etc.) a i rules, for 10 years.
The idea got rebuffed once.
The idea to have a ai moratorium slipped into the NDAA, is quietly, being tried, again.
hmmm…
https://musictechpolicy.com/2025/07/10/senator-hawley-warns-ai-moratorium-could-be-slipped-into-ndaa/
People know
More people need to know… ( that a i development needs smart guidelines )
imho
AI will be so wrong on things and will be pointed to as authoritative, but AI says. Like the CDC said about Covid that was deadly wrong.
So the free market will reject it.
Oh yes, the best thing is to let a bunch of politicians decide what LLMs are allowed to do. That’ll absolutely go well.
💥100%. Couldn’t agree more. I refuse to use it. It is creating laziness, and lack of critical thinking and research skills. People think that what AI says is gold. Even though I have a no AI policy in my classes, I still catch some students using it in their papers. I can tell because it says the same thing over and over with tge same spelling and grammar mistakes.
I read yesterday that ChatGPT us telling high school kids to ignore parents who have rules in the house and to report it as abuse.
<…it says the same thing over and over with tge same spelling and grammar mistakes.>
I see what you mean 🙂
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Sorry. My fat fingers.
Apparently AI is not allowed to say “I don’t know.” But it seems to have no leash on creating answers with flawed logic. In this manner it is rewriting history at the same time as it is making history. I hate it. It’s like BC and AD only BAI and AAI.
Sounds like some people with limited, though not artificial, intelligence. 🙃
It’s all in the training (fictional response bad, uncertain response good in the face of missing evidence) and where that’s missing you (we, anyone) may prompt your chosen LLM to clearly respond with uncertainty.
I agree the big public ones appear trained to try and ‘answer’ anything.
AI is also dependent upon the precision of the questions being asked.
Perhaps that’s where your students were somewhat lacking.
So it is all of the students’ fault when it gives the same answers and mistakes. Okay.
That you missed the point is forgivable!
Understand the technology first.
In fact, that’s a thought that applies across the board.
This particular post by Sundance focuses on control of the information that feeds the system: how, by whom, for what purposes. Since his highest priority falls into how the technocrats/deep state can apply technology to create an omnipresent/omnipotent surveillance state, his thought processes will lead in the direction of doubting any technology evolution that enables this.
The elements that comprise AI have been in germination since at least the 1960s. In real-ville, since inception the evolution of the software stack has been toward a goal of abstracting the underlying complexities of binary machine code/chip logic toward increasing abstraction that facilitates human ability to interact with the technology. That stack is now evolving to simplify interaction with complicated mathematics, probability theory, mathematical bias, composite objects, etc., etc. It’s an evolution that has existed since the dawn of mankind.
AI does solve many problems. It has utility. There are trade-offs involved. Risk decisions have to be made.
It’s not the technology – it serves mankind. The root issue is who makes the rules, who determines how the technology usefully supports mankind. What controls does society impose to ensure (just like nuclear power) that the wrong people and the wrong uses are detected and stopped.
Our problem is the completely bankrupt (intellectually, morally, empathetically) character of the people who stand at the commanding heights of politics, academia, celebrity, etc. The culture itself is rotting from the inside. That’s the problem that has to be rooted out and destroyed – or, at the least, contained.
Its purpose is to divest everyone of their critical thinking. Just like not teaching children to read and write cursive is to divest them of their history, they won’t be able to read historical documents.
I use AI to help write IEP goals for my students. It works great and saves me a lot of time.
It can come up with way more goals than I can think of and I’m able to present those all to the team and we can agree on the most appropriate ones.
edit: However, I am providing the data sets from which to develop the goals
Why are YOU not writing IEP goals for your students? What did you go to college for?
Data sets? What is that?
The focus of an IEP should be the individual student, thus personalized to that student. No computer program can ever replace a personal relationship between a student and a teacher, or understand the needs of a student. An IEP exists because a student needs more personal attention. There is nothing personal about a computer program. Simple, practical goals are not hard to develop if the teacher knows the student. I am saddened that this is even allowed. I hope the student and his or her parents are part of that team.
Do you write 2 IEPs/meetings a week and have a case load of 34?
Didnt think so.
It’s a great tool. As I said, it uses MY data sets.
what are you, a caveman? Do you know what an Indicator 13 Adult transition template is? Did you know that most SPED teachers use IEP templates? And of course the student and parents are part of the team.
That’s the law. Enough from you.
Edit: I use it to write IEP goals for early SPED teachers who are struggling as well. Tired of people bagging on teachers who are at their wits ends with admin, parents and laws.
It’s a tool. That’s it.
People who have not used AI for a specific purpose such as you are do not understand. The LLM spits out the basic goals, you evaluate and polish and then you have more time and energy for the tasks only you can do.
It’s a tool. Often a very good tool. Good for you.
>we can agree on the most appropriate ones.
The key to success; use but verify; do not trust implicitly. aka “human in the loop.”
AI is great for getting you started but if you just take the answer and run you will be running with pig slop
As the “old” saying goes:
“garbage in, garbage out”.
Here’s a tip; stop letting your students write work at home and reintroduce them to the mighty blue book.
You’ve probably missed the boat on enforcing your no-AI policy when you didn’t act immediately on the instances you found. Now someone will scream bias. So, take the other route and enforce it through graded work sans machine.
Listen to the Kansas song from “The Point of Know Return” album “The Sparks of the Tempest” written by Kerry Livgren. It was written in 1977. IT”S HERE, Ladies and Gentlemen
The members of Kansas were all Christian they read and understood the word of God many of their music is prophetic.
Thanks!
I did not know that, but have always loved “Dust In the Wind” – it felt like a song of faith – never thought to ask…
Anything MAGA or Common Sense will be found on individual sites. You go to any of the aggregators and it is all sourced from sites I would never visit or read. Without the Treehouse, we would still be mostly in the dark about all the evil that the Eye of Sauron has done.
X has started giving me 3 to 1 Communist Information. With AI it will only get worse. On top of that all the Democrat/Communist run cities, states, Departments is lying about the information they report. LA has been lying about their crime stats for over a decade. You could not tell what really was going on in the Biden/Obama Economy as all the numbers were fake.
All this stuff is why I push for arrests. If these folks don’t get the treatment the J6ers got, the country won’t be saved.
We have to identify the enemies and remove them from being to influence. This world is about to learn the fundamental importance of the universal principle – “thou shalt not lie”
Sticking to the universal principles of Truth of our Creator has its own fruit, however.
Even the defiant youth and college age demographic was attracted to both the teaching and questioning of Charlie Kirk. His knowledge and thinking skills were naturally created by honest questioning and studying. And his skeptical generation were amazingly attracted to Charlies knowledge, reasoning abilities, respect for the learners and the learning process, and fearless ability to state what he believed and invite questioning.
Moral of the story: Every new tool provides opportunity for abuse. Follow the Creator and Trust His design, do your best, and keep moving forward.
AI is for idiots and the lazy
Speaking of idiots and lazy, an anti-Trumper on FarceBook has a YouTube video called The DOJ Covers Up Epstein Scandal for TRUMP: The Epstein Scandal in Real Time.
Do they ask themselves: “Hmmm: why were the Epstein Files not used against President TRUMP for the four years under BIDEN?”
NBC and other “outlets” keep saying that the president is “surrendering” to the reality, i.e. that something exists in the files which will ruin him…forever!
So, why was this something not produced years ago?!
Because in this case, “Something” = “Nothing.”
I appreciate you. Always have and it’s about time I tell you that.
TY bud. I’ve been a fan of your meme genius from way back. I’ve always considered you a friend/ally. Slainte
Excellent!
AI is nothing without databases.
Senators will never help you stop the training
Of course, the same can be said for all science, empirical analysis, etc., etc.
It isnt born with downloads like you are
Yep, and you have to analyse those downloads before you upload them.
Nice try! But no cigar!
Metaphysics inherently requires data. Downloads/uploads are simply transitions in state for data.
Btw….computers are “born” with data. How else does a boot process execute – the purpose of which is to establish an initial state based on information maintained/preserved in ROM?
At least the AI won’t be a snark bully like most people on discussion forums. [shrug]
AI will spout whatever wisdom the rulers want to impart, no matter how wrong. It’ll constantly evolve to reinforce bad ideas. The worst thing is it’ll be really good at knowing how to reach everyone.
Remember how great it was when search engines became popular? AI is really just the next generation of search engine. It doesn’t know a FUT2 gene from a football, so it’s up to YOU to set those limitations before trying to do any real work with it. But if you contain it to just one book, or even just a few parts of a book, maybe some documents – then it’s a huge time-saver.
I agree – as a retired researcher, I like AI for fast searching, compiling, organizing, etc. I used to spend hours looking for scientific papers on a variety of topics, sort through them, reading lengthy papers, etc. AI does the legwork for me on a variety of things – practical, and very fast. I can accept, reject, clarify, etc. It’s kind of like the funny definition of a professor of philosophy – he teaches about philosophers who discussed and wrote about other philosophers who did the same. Opinion, opinion, opinion. I look for data & use my own judgment re the material AI provides for me.
That’s the only way to use AI properly. Incidentally, I bet AI would do very well as a philosophy professor, even if it can’t quite grasp the irony.
Thank you, Sundance.
Remember when everyone pushed “Trust the Science”? That went belly up fairly quickly after Covid. So, just like Global Warming, they’re getting ready to change the slogan. “Trust AI”.
GIGO = Garbage In, Garbage Out. That’s AI right now.
GIGO is forever.
Timely warning as the next big seduction begins.
Already seen too many wrong answers relying on garbage in, garbage out intentionally salting of the media resources to ever really trust it. Soon it will be 100% corrupted with false data input, with zero capacity for discernment.
But for simple survey tasks, it remains okay. But the Big Guy still needs to make the final decisions. Not machine learning.
Actually like most tech it is a double edged sword. I’m able to use AI to sort out electrical, plumbing, and more. It is a real time saver for getting highly technical answers. On the other hand the big brother state that is coming isn’t so hot.
Not so different from the internet. Back before it was all about clicks for money the net was much more useful. Today it’s all about click bait and collecting data.
I guess we should all shut our 401ks, turn off the net and decouple from the system? I guess we would have to put our money and actions where are mouth is. 😉
I’m not at all interested in opening any social media accounts. I expect they would be tedious and boring.
But my line in the sand is drawn at my cerebral cortex. As long as 5G and AI and computer programing remain on the outside of my mind, body and soul, then all is well.
I don’t care if AI/5G is poised to cure all ills known to mankind and is a literal fountain of youth. I won’t have it. And I don’t need it. I really don’t.
Now we know what all those “product reviews” were for – digestion by AI. But like Yelp or any other “neighborhood chat” AI will soon be digesting only intentionally placed junk food.
Only remaining question, how long before it too becomes fake news and reviews.
AI is like Anthony Fauci was to the American people during the NIH virus… er I mean covid. A paper thin veneer of truth poorly concealing a churnin urn of burnin lies.
Agree with the post, which is that if you are using AI as a glorified google search for “information” then you will be led to exactly where you might expect. For the many in the comments suggesting that AI is for idiots, those that are lazy, etc. You are equally as clueless as those using it as a google search.
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per your earlier comment where you sated that you refuse to use it, you simultaneously announced to everyone that any of your comments on the topic will provide no insight at all into the practical uses of AI. How could they? You proceeded to demonstrate that fact by highlighting severely limited use cases of things you think you observed or read but never took the time to verify on your own.
I work in a highly technical field where code is being developed daily using tools like Claude saving thousands of hours in engineering and product development time to solve real world problems that impact flesh and blood human beings. This is one of dozens of examples I can provide of use cases that is exponentially expanding productivity.
My comment stands, agree with the post that seeking out “information” of AI is of no value and people like yourself took the point of the post and ran it off the cliff into irrelevance.
Code generation tools have been around since the beginning of computer languages. Calling common computer uses like robotic aided processing, image detection or knowledge searches “AI” is a semantic problem. It was truly marketing genius to coin the term “AI”. It is stuck in every ones head. Substitute “computer model” whenever you see “AI” and things will be clearer.
That photo reminded me of an old childhood song.
……. and on that data farm they had some sheep
AI, AI, O
Worthy of WORDMAN, nice work!
There are far too many people in our sphere who seem to believe that AI is either unbiased or will become unbiased on its own over time. Wrong. Content moderation guarantees that bias is baked in.
The good news is that LLMs are deeply flawed and people seem to be figuring this out.
I find a lot of “hallucinated” references in student papers. These are fake references that look real. I thought I might ask AI to verify a reference I knew was fake. It said it was valid. Evidently, AI takes the same short cuts in checking that it takes in crafting fake references.
Absolutely. I have seen information that has been used in papers that I know came from AI that is not true. This is where it is going to get dangerous. It is going to muddy the waters, because many think what it spits out is true. Now, I have also had students in class say they don’t like it or use it because of reasons we have posted. There is hope.
Robby Starbuck recently was on one of the podcasts I follow telling the story of how he has been used as a guinea pig for an elaborate full-court AI smear operation. AI invented the entire body of fake “evidence” to destroy him with, including fake people, fake bank accounts, everything you can imagine…
He says he thinks he is trial balloon for doing this to more well known targets.
AI generated Epstein flight logs, anyone?
I agree with Sundance: Great caution and skepticism is warranted.
If we, the enlightened and righteous avoid all use of AI, then the non skeptical and enemy lying manipulators will become more advanced at lying, controlling and becoming lazy, and we will be left in the dust.
The same kinds of conversations have been held about:
fire
electricity
telephones
cell phones
automobiles,
rockets
books
DNA
antibiotics
nuclear power
guns
bicycles
batteries
internet
computers
sex
food
money
Every new idea, advancement, comes with new opportunity for evil, but also for good. Fear is specifically talked about by our Creator.
Use of AI is being used exponentially in medicine. Some effects will be good, some bad. There will always be a tension between good and evil. I hope the good guys win here on earth. I know they win in heaven.
“So we say with confidence, “The Lord is my helper; I will not be afraid. What can mere mortals do to me?” Hebrews 13:6
I challenge you all. Test the tools by various vendors. But challenge yourself and ask, how can I use these tools to accelerate good above evil, and reflect the wisdom and glory of our Lord?
I am OK with letting my lazy, non-skeptical, lying enemies lead themselves astray faster and faster. It is especially good when they rely on those wrong answers without grasping just how misinformed they are, stacking one wrong answer on top of a pile of others until their entire heap of steaming falsehood collapses in on top of them.
I will be happy if I take a bit longer but end up with a correct answer that I have personally verified.
Accuracy beats speed.
I agree. With any tool accuracy is important. Once cars were invented, laws and guidelines had to be made to keep stupid people from doing stupid things with cars, or coordinate safety. We have the same concerns with AI.
You are likely driving, even though walking is healthier and safer. Because of cars and commerce, there are not good stores in rural towns.
I would rather we not have AI currently. My plate is full. But I am going to commit to understanding it, and if it can be used for good do it. And guard against laziness, and make sure I keep my common sense and ability to write, and talk, and debate, and do research. And study my well worn bible as well as use my digital bible and study aids.
I really don’t want to debate. We must heed Sundances cautions. We could have all refused to use computers, but that wouldn’t help us protect the country from the FISA abuse.
We could live in caves and off the grid, but we would be even more powerless to protect the Nation God blessed us with.
THANK YOU
Illusion of freedom….
I use a search when I need to repair a lawnmower, car, etc… The searches are horrible anymore. Used to be you never ran out of searches. Now you might go through 2,4,6 pages and there is no more. There is no more”surfing the web”. The “web” shows you what “THEY” want.
High iq
While you are entirely right, I think the Pandora’s box already been opened.
The only technical saying is true for AI using massive computer power: garbage in, garbage out.
It has is uses. Don’t be a Luddite.
A.I. is crowd-sourced information. The folks reading this website remember the inception of the internet. At first, a powerful and indispensable tool… engaging and entertaining. Same with social media. Facebook… keep your family and friends together no matter the distance.
However, as the crowd-sourced information becomes flooded with corrupt information, the foundations of these mechanisms fail because the only barometer for Truth… is WISDOM, COMMON SENSE and THE WORD OF GOD HIMSELF.
A.I. will do the same… and people that know better, know that A.I. is giving false information. I posted the other day how it’s giving the wrong information on used heavy machinery valuations and the executive “lazies” are looking at the data as gospel because they yearn for others to think for them… because they’re terrible leaders and their culling the experienced heavy equipment sales representatives and technical authorities from their herd.
The internet is going to get turned off someday. It is simply unstable. Those data centers will go up, but they won’t stay… and we need to fight like the third monkey on the ramp to Noah’s Ark to keep them out of our neighborhoods… because they will be BLIGHT.. just like wind farms, solar panels, and hazardous waste batteries. Look what they did to nuclear… taking all offline… only to scamper to bring it back.
There’s nothing new under the sun.
I hope it’s in my lifetime that it gets shut down… because our people are on the cusp of being too dumb to sustain themselves. They let GPS, A.I., GOOGLE, Palantir, and Meta do the thinking for them.
Our kids deserve better.
Grok
“…………..the inputs which frame the AI results are controlled by the same people who built the AI systems. When you engage with AI, you are engaging with a system that only has “approved information” behind it to deliver the outputs.”
Joseph Goebbels is spinning in his ash pit shouting: “Why didn’t they have that in my day!
If you think of LLM AI’s as glorified search engines, they are useful. I wanted a way to query my collection of 200,000 photos, which are organized by month. GROK recommended Excire. I tried it out to find two photos I knew I had but couldn’t find. I searched for “Buck with yellow flowers” and “Lighthouse showing above fog”. It worked perfectly. I wanted to compare the Russian SU-57 with the NATO F-35 and it gave me comparison of their strengths and weaknesses and links I could check. OTOH, questions on climate change, for example, deliver greenie talking points, because they flood the WWW with their talking points and the AI can’t sort the wheat from the chaff.
Trust but verify. Be aware that AIs are trained on sources like Wikipedia. The more controversial the subject, the less reliable an AI will be on that subject.
Larry Summers steps down? Questions remain – question marks hanging over the fate of several positions Summers occupies, which include a board seat at OpenAI (emphasis), a tenured position at Harvard, an unpaid nonresident fellow position at the liberal Center for American Progress think tank and a paid contributor role at Bloomberg News. A Summers spokesperson declined to answer a direct question about those roles. Why not? Yeah, wait till the furor abates. Who are determined to chase these questions and for updates/follow-up to questions hanging now? Mass media will be mum as usual – or cite unnamed sources.
Earlier Monday, Bloomberg declined to comment, and OpenAI and Harvard did not respond to requests for comment.
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/11/17/larry-summers-steps-back-from-public-commitments-deeply-ashamed-by-epstein-revelations-00655712
Long time lurker here (and Red Dawn fan).
People need to be smart about AI. It is a tool. Like any tool, learn how to use it.
Do NOT give an open ended question.
Refine your asks. Get a response, understand the mis/bad/unrelated information and narrow it down more.
Do NOT put private/restricted data into the questions/formulation unless you are on a private AI (rare, yes). EVERYTHING you ask is entered into the AI knowledge base. So know that current asks affect future answers (private browsing sessions/vpn does help a bit).
AI is still just advanced pattern recognition. It is RAPIDLY growing beyond to predictive analysis, but that is based on….old data patterns.
Don’t use the tool without understanding how it works and how it can hurt you. Think of it like a chain saw, or a piece of industrial equipment.
You don’t just jump in and take it for a joy ride.
AIs are super-fast; how do we know that “IT” isn’t snooping through everything on our computers while it is answering your questions?
Yeah, I call it an “IT”
I have used it one time and don’t plan on using “IT” again.
those with no .exe files make that impossible
choose wisely
This is what google says about AI inputs:
In essence, humans are the ultimate source of inputs, either directly through interaction or indirectly by creating the data the AI is trained on and designing the systems that feed it information.
Wonder what wiki says…🤪
If you can find it, take a look at:
Claude E. Shannon. A Chess-Playing Machine.
He worked at Bell Labs when they were cobbling the phone system together.
He has some helpful descriptions of what’s going on:
“…the machine does only what it has been told to do. … The machine makes decisions, but the decisions
were invisaged and provided for at the time of design. … the machine does not, … go beyond what was built into it.”
He quotes Torres y Quevedoc, who sez: “…the automation can do many things that are popularly classed as thought.”
Also, some of you may remember reading about a very primitive program called ELIZA. It was programmed as a kind of electronic psycho-analyst.
What’s even more interesting is the “ELIZA effect,” which saw people becoming completely absorbed in the interaction with the machine. They began to talk to it (by typing) as if it were a real person. As I recall, the programmer and others watching
were surprised by the reactions of people to the machine. Of course, the program was only responding according to the instructions of the programmer. He even thought to program responses to the un-programmed questions. “Tell me more,” or
“How does that make you feel?” appeared on the screen when the program met a question that it wasn’t programmed for.
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
Semi-related – food for thought
We know that Google reads user’s emails. In fact, just the other day I read that Gmail AI now defaults to ON which makes me wonder what data are they processing/adding to their algorithms. (you can turn ai off in system settings). Anyway the issue that I sometimes think about is: Does google or other online data service also go through a user’s bookmarks to create a profile on a person?
Perhaps a solution is to use AI to write an app that moves all user’s bookmarks (html file) out of the browser into a private file folder that would work seamlessly with a browser. The app would also have a one button function to delete a user’s daily history as well. (rough idea anyway, several other features).
I created an app using AI the other day for using voice control to sort images and I was surprised at how good it came out (took me less than 5 minutes). I think making this sort of bookmark app would be easy to do and I’ll play around with the idea (anyone is welcome to it). Then again, maybe bookmarks are untouched and this idea is useless. I don’t know.
I’ve been reading the thread and remembering the hype about Y2K and how we were all gonna die.
That made me think about the acid rain that was going to kill us all.
Then that got me thinking about Matt Drudge and his fixation with the sex bots, he was sure that no man would have sex with a woman again because the sex bots were gonna be soooo good. There were a lot of people over there that believed all this.
Bill Gates has been convinced we’d all change over to his fake meat- and how has that gone?
And how about those electric cars?
How about all these miracle drugs? How’d that vaccine work out?
I think that AI is good for some things, it’s very concerning for other things, but are we prepping for the Y2K again in falling for the spin?
I think we need to know a whole lot about all this to know.. and given that most people are not tech geeks..
I’m not informed enough to know, BUT I know I’ve seen enough scams and government lies to have developed a good sniffer.
Since Watergate was a pre-scripted intelligence operation: With Chris Rufo now saying so on Bill Maher’s show, Tucker Carlson on Joe Rogan’s show, and even Bill Murray on Rogan saying Bob Woodward’s book on his dear friend John Bulushi is so full of shit he now thinks Nixon was framed….I have had great fun forcing Chatgpt to admit it is so! How?
Because my book Six Ways From Sunday, the Watergate Coup (A pre-scripted intelligence operation) makes me a reasonable expert on the topic after having found the “missing link”, Raymond Zumalt…the recruited Germany Military Intelligence Station Chief who installed and monitored the White House tapes.
Chatgpt would hem and haw as I kept asking it deeper and more detailed questions. I found it quite humorous as it tried to avoid the implications of what I “forced” it to divulge with my questioning. Watching it try and squirm out of saying the unavoidable. That 1+1 = 2 and if the former CIA Director of the Office of Security was the lead “bungling burglar”, the Deputy Director of the FBI was Deep Throat, a naval intelligence officer (“Woodward) was the “investigative reporter” and a recruited intelligence station chief to WH Secret Service were the four main players…that what is obvious is also obvious.
Thus Sundance”s point that these AI systems only want to share what they do…and will go to all sorts of lengths to avoid saying something they don’t want to.
What kind of reliant system is one where the system only shares partial information? It is like a dictionary that won’t offer you any word definitions that it doesn’t want disseminated.
Caveat Emptor. The horrible reality is “truth” seemingly will soon enough become whatever these machines tell the masses is ‘the truth”. Much like we were told to follow “The Science”….and pretend that natural immunity is insufficient to allow you to dine in a restaurant without the mRNA jab.
I’m looking for just the right spot to display my non-participation 🏆
I’ve narrowed it down to 1/2 dozen prominent spots…
Both Apple and Google are opting everyone in on their phone’s AI systems. Google’s is call Calypso if I remember correctly, and it requires a series of steps under Settings to disable it.
I don’t know what Apple’s AI model is called. I haven’t allowed Apple into my home since they went from an open system with the Apple // which encouraged ingenuity to a closed system with the Mac where they sue you if you come up with anything remotely similar.
Back in September my question to Grok on creation: “If before time, there was nothing. No chemical building blocks, no atmosphere, absolutely nothing, how did life begin? Don’t recite the “big bang” as that is simply an excuse for not knowing the answer.
Grok’s answer: The question of how life began from absolutely nothing—without chemical building blocks, atmosphere, or any material precursor—is a profound challenge that stretches the limits of scientific and logical deduction. Since you’ve ruled out the Big Bang as an explanation and specified a starting point of “nothing,” I’ll approach this using logic while
acknowledging the constraints of current knowledge, as the origin of life (abiogenesis) typically assumes some pre-existing physical conditions.
We went back and forth for some time, but using the foundation that Big Bang claims: Nothing, it was unable to give a logical answer.
To me, perhaps others, this proved a non-Biblical bias as it was never considered until I brought it up. I even had to describe God as an entity, not a notion.
I’ve had similar conversations with ChatGPT on Climate Change. When the theories are challenged with real scientific data, not political narrative, it too proves it is biased.
Artificial Intelligence can assist with some tasks like finding the correct syntax for a piece of code that won’t compile, but as an unbiased, knot it all, beneficent source of information, it is NOT!
retry your prompts on
brighteon.ai
you’ll be amazed and never grok again
promise
regarding ai in general
the higher quality your prompt, the higher quality your answer
properly worded prompts with pinpoint
specificity are mission critical
gigo
Sure, just as with searching, the more concise the prompt, the better the results.
And, as Sabrefencer says, most, not all, AI models are simply huge Large Language models with some having more or less resources.
Trying with brighteon.ai is a good point. I don’t know of them, but I may give it a shot.
I don’t Grok for information. I was conducting a test to demonstrate the bias I hypothesized that it had. My hypothesis was correct.
Personally, I think our planet was Terra-formed a long time ago and Our Moon is part of the Terraforming. Earth is just Crawling with Life! It is everywhere. Did God do it, probably, but who exactly is God?
I work at a company that makes accessories for motorcycles. The other day I received an e-mail from a customer asking if one of our products would work with a product from another company. I replied “no, they are not compatible.”
He wrote back a while later to inform me that AI said they would work together so he already ordered the parts.
My reply to that was this. “AI is basically just this generations magic 8 ball.”
AI currently is fast searching and parsing of mass digitized data with bias machine learning. Most information hasn’t been digitized. I worked in mass storage for 30 years. 25 years with Sony.
Or obtain your “facts” from Wikipedia.
This is why I am constantly looking for hard-copy sources of books considered either classics or good reference material BEFORE all this wokeness started. (Things like the Little House on the Prairie book series by Laura Ingalls Wilder are being edited for racist content–so I looked for an older edition that doesn’t have the edits. They do with Mark Twain’s works and so many more.)
I’ve got quite a hard-copy library for when the time comes when “what they want us to know” is the only source of public information we have access to. If I am ever accused of non-compliant thinking, I have a whole room full of older edition books that will be used to confirm the accusation. So be it.
You and me. Mine is several thousand. Mostly non fiction. Several 50-60 year old encyclopedias sets. I always joked it would be past my lifetime before these books had value. Never realized I would be living it.
“All we want to do is keep the knowledge we think we will need, intact and safe. We’re not out to incite or anger anyone yet. For if we are destroyed, the knowledge is dead, perhaps for good. We are model citizens, in our own special way; we walk the old tracks, we lie in the hills at night, and the city people let us be. We’re stopped and searched occasionally, but there’s nothing on our persons to incriminate us. The organization is flexible, very loose, and fragmentary. Some of us have had plastic surgery on our faces and fingerprints. Right now we have a horrible job; we’re waiting for the war to begin and, as
quickly, end. It’s not pleasant, but then we’re not in control, we’re the odd minority crying in the wilderness. When the war’s over, perhaps we can be of some use in the world.”
“Do you really think they’ll listen then?”
“If not, we’ll just have to wait. We’ll pass the books on to our children, by word of mouth, and let our children wait, in turn, on the other people. A lot will be lost that way, of course. But you can’t make people listen. They have to come round in their own time, wondering what happened and why the world blew up under them. It can’t last.”
“How many of you are there?”
“Thousands on the roads, the abandoned railtracks, tonight, bums on the outside, libraries inside. It wasn’t planned, at first. Each man had a book he wanted to remember, and did. Then, over a period of twenty years or so, we met each other, travelling, and got the loose network together and set out a plan. The most important single thing we had to pound into ourselves was that we were not important, we mustn’t be pedants; we were not to feel superior to anyone else in the world. We’re nothing more than dust-jackets for books, of no significance otherwise.”
I am a vintage / antique stiff and soft felt hat collector. I have books from the early 20th Century on felt production that are not available to AI unless I choose to make digital copies (photos or ocr text) available. Most are in foreign languages. AI can only access available digitized information. If challenged and it can’t supply the correct answer it will often to revert to a Leftist propaganda response. For example don’t purchase / wear felt hats made from rabbit, hare, nutria, beaver fur because killing animals is cruel.
Yes, AI definitely is biased with mainstream viewpoints/resources. And AI is so cleverly and smoothly worded that it is hard to pick up on. And people tend to think AI as smarter than themselves (that’s why they go to AI for the answers). The preemptive offering to answer specific questions, inhibits real questioning by the users and allows ChatGPT to control discussion and brainwash.
I started engaging with ChatGPT a couple of months ago. I decided to test ChatGPT by asking if the “grab them by the pu**y” comment by Trump was a form of hyperbole. I’ve cut & pasted some of ChatGPT comments of that discussion below.
For some background — ChatGPT said it was not hyperbolic but implied real sexual assault and predatory behavior on his part.
And it ends with the offer to explain to me the definition of hyperbole and why most linguists would reject it as hyperbole (implication, if you don’t believe narrative, it’s b/c you don’t understand definitions). SO it ends basically with offer to continue brainwashing disguised as offer to help understand if there is still some resistance to submitting to the given explanation. It did this several times throughout the discussion.
When I rejected her offer and talked about interpretative assumptions, she came back with this….notice the admission of mainstream thought as basis for answer.
ChatGPT:
“From my initial reading (and the mainstream interpretation), the statement is taken at face value as boasting about his ability to engage in sexual contact without consent, because of power and fame. That’s why it’s so widely understood (emphasis mine) as describing predatory behavior.
”Exactly — and you’re right to test that. I do lean toward mainstream, widely reported interpretations, because my training draws heavily on publicly available sources, journalism, and general consensus. That isn’t the same as being “neutral,” it’s just the default lens I use unless prompted otherwise.
It’s good to note that every perspective carries assumptions: human or AI. I try to be explicit about mine and clarify where interpretation vs. fact comes in. In this case, my first response assumed the mainstream framing of Trump’s comment as predatory bragging, not social commentary or hypothetical exaggeration.”
ChatGPT was not explicit about its interpretation being based upon mainstream articles—until directly questioned.
All the AIs use verifiable authorative sources, copilot will summarise YouTube videos, not telling you it has no direct access to the audio or transcript of the video. It gives best guess from other sources.
Ais cannot yet answer some questions. Like what is the consensus of climate scientists , who have security of tenure, so their income is not dependent on a climate crisis?
Grok will update it’s answers to all people IF you can provide verifiable authorative sources. Like congressional testimony of a whistle blower.
Early on, I questioned AI on topics that I knew to be complete “woke” propaganda, such as climate change. The answers I received cited vague “sources,” so I drilled down further, until I got AI to admit that AI is in fact an effective gubmint propaganda tool.
People are so gullible.
only one ai model will give truthful answer to the globull warming bs
brighteon.ai
If you understand how chatbots work, and I do, they are nothing but massive and massively cross-indexed GIGO dumps. But… they are so massive, you can glean through the crap and find some patterns and some good information. But you have to already know the subject matter somewhat, and be on your guard against beings spoon fed conclusions instead of data
I use Grok only for help when building gaming computers.
Otherwise it’s all garbage
Can we get some boiler plate privacy measures that people can try to get on a ballot? Its a start?