I said when the alignment first took place, there would come a point when Elon Musk turned on President Trump and attempted to split MAGA into oppositional teams so that Musk could achieve his agenda. Elon Musk is currently mining for team members.
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Elon Musk supports President Donald Trump by putting the House and Senate in control of Democrats?
See this for what it is.
Elon Musk has an agenda, and it has nothing to do with DOGE or spending. Y’all already know what his agenda is, many of you just didn’t want to believe it.
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I’d suggest those blaming Trump do not have the slightest idea why he has survived in the pit of DC.
If you haven’t noticed Trump is working in his positive and diplomatic identity this term. Less bitching and name calling.
Trump is not responsible for this bill and it’s my sincere belief he knows exactly who Mike Johnson is, I’ve called him the little anti Christ for years. But Trump has to work with the snakes in DC.
I believe in Trump’s plan which is significantly different than Congress’s plan. Remember he’s repeated a number of times when asked if he trusts certain people, I don’t trust anyone!
And he’s big believer in an eye for eye, and tooth for a tooth. Revenge is his tool but he’s much more diplomatic with it, this time around.
right on!
Man that Trump kool aid must be good. Blame everyone but the source of the issue. Trump has no one to blame but himself. Look at his appointment of Bondi and Kash. His endorsement of the now traitor Graham. Elon left because he did all the work and Trump did nothing with the results. You know the rest.
Walking in wet concrete is not easy
Trump’s not responsible? Are you blind? He’s the one who labeled it the BIG BEAUTIFUL BILL. He’s the one who lambaste Thomas Massie over it.
He’s the one to push for no taxes parts of it YET Says Nothing as they basically are gutted with all the strings attached.
Yeah It’s Trumps Bill.
If he is not responsible then why is he calling it a “Big Beautiful Bill”? Smells like hypocrisy to me. Either you are fighting the Deep State or you are getting in bed with them. If President Trump was set on compromising with these cretins that are bankrupting our country, then he should have said so when he was running. He is starting to look more and more like the compromised politicians he promised to eradicate. Not what the MAGA supporters voted for, in my opinion.
Never trust a man who thinks living on Mars is a good idea.
You can trust a man that can land a 22 story rocket in a cradle and reuse it over and over. He’s no sci fi writer living in his moms basement.
I never for one moment trusted musk, he is a rather strange individual. And let us not forget, his tesla was funded by our lovely government. None of this bodes well.
He prays on people’s frustrations and emotions with the RINOs constant betrayals. Why doesn’t he target the real evil that are the Democrats first?
because you start at home first so that, then there is a better chance for taking on the demoncrats – but doge is taking on the demoncrats first…..the whole point of this is that the demon-rinoses need to do these things to take on the leftists and they are not taking on anything first, not themselves or the demons….so it seems we may opine….
Not if it puts the House/Senate at risk which is what it seems like little Elon the crybaby who isn’t getting his way wants to do.
I wish Sundance would speak more plainly at times. I actually DON’T know what Elon Musk’s agenda is or may be. Could someone speak this in plain terms? Sorry for being dumb.
I agree.
SD is good but has blinders on when comes to Trump sometimes
He’s not often wrong but sometimes he points to things vaguely and assumes we all see what he sees. We don’t.
I agree with Elon for the most part. None of the DOGE cuts have been codified. When President Trump is gone the usual suspects will return to the shenanigans.
This is the heart of the matter right here. There’s no way the damage of many decades, culminating in Biden’s four years, can be undone during PDJT’s term or even multiple subsequent terms of right-leaning CICs (as if that will actually happen). We’re in deep doodoo. It’s an infuriating state of affairs but helpful to keep mind when the urge arises to “strain out a gnat but swallow a camel.”
I have no idea what his agenda is either!!!
Musk did a good job at DOGE. It was something that should have been done a long time ago by the people who are paid to represent us. But I never fully trusted him because he is a chicom loving pothead.
Smokes a little weed and that is your criteria not to support him. But ok for the pedos, whores, corrupt politicians, trannies, and others get the ok from you and you trust them???
He supports a communist regime that has murdered tens of millions of its own people, commits genocide on Tibetans and Uyghurs, bullies its neighbors, spreads a disease to other countries, hacks into our infrastructure, steals intellectual property on a regular basis, and your criteria for trusting him is that he “smokes a little weed.”
You need to put the bong down and sober up. Destroying the USA from within by promoting drug use is one of the ways communist china plans on defeating us without firing a shot.
First, I think you’re on the wrong platform for Musk-riding. Second, he’s always been a man-child on the spectrum with a dash of evil genius. Don’t know if PDJT knew this or not, though my guess is he did/does. Point being, POTUS wanted the musk money to win, he got it, and then he got in bed with the man-child.
And third, a clear majority of regular posters here already saw this coming way back when DOGE was forming.
He also massively underdelivered, 1.5 billion cuts when he promised 2 trillion. Almost like it was a performance.
Exactly 🎯🎯
Elon is starting to show his true colors. MAGA should not trust Musk. Musk helped when needed but now he needs to get out of the way.
Only one in Trump Adm that did his job. How about Bondi , Kash and other incompetent politicians he has Appointed
Hegseth, Rubio, Gabbard, RFK Jr., Bessent, Burgum, Lutnick, Collins, and Noem are all doing an outstanding job assigned to them by a president who was elected by a mandate.
… but you probably think that “autopen” or the word salad woman would be doing a better job now.
I am sorry, Sundance, but this is plain silly. I was against Elon on the H1B visa issue, against Rand and Ron Paul against the issue of tariffs, but now they are right. As well, Trump was wrong on going to war with Rand and Massey. Likewise, Trump is making right now fatal mistakes on the issue of Ukraine: shall we call him a ‘neocon’ because of that?
If one fails to acknowledge these inevitable inhomogeneities, inherent in any position, one is moving fast forward towards a cult of personality. What, ‘unity at all costs’? What next? Shoot the dissenters? C’mon…
Elon says ‘fire the politicians’: are we going to defend now these abhorent RINOs which _they_ are jeopardizing the MAGA revolution: not Elon, not Massey, not the Pauls ?…
Listen to the people who actually know how government works and not agenda driven Elon who is now working with Rand and Massie. This is a reconcilliation bill. Russ Vought, Lutnick, Miller, Bessent, etc. understand how things need to be done not Elon.
How the government actually works IS the problem. The MAGA movement is based on how things SHOULD be done, not how they have always been done. We have all had enough of that go along to get along B.S.
You have no idea how anything works. I try to inform myself as best I can, but understand I have to at times trust my instincts because I don’t have days on end to devote to educating myself on complex topics. I can tell you that your gut is way wrong on here if you’re siding with the man-child autist w/ a dash of evil genius over President Trump. That much I know for sure.
Plus, I doubt Mr. Musk even cares about the DOGE cuts that much. My guess is he understands that his beloved TESLA is down, like waaay down as a result of switching sides, and he’s now on a mission to reverse course publicly so his freaky consumer base will stop harassing and boycotting his cars.
What is Elon’s agenda??
Uh, Sundance, educate me; what would Elon Musk’s agenda be?
The USG’s spending is out of control. It is the root of all kinds of evil in the world. If Trump has a plan to wean the economy of of this mass counterfeiting operation, he hasn’t talked about it that I am aware of. And I never expected him to.
Elon is not going to do anything to derail the movement and give the D’s the power back. They hate him. This is nonsense.
Really? Chuckie and Dollar Store Obama were singing his praises again because he is now opposing PDJT.
It doesn’t take long for a worm to turn…
well, he’s doing it.
Maybe we should never get in bed with the enemy, no matter how sexy the dresses are. No?
“See this for what it is.”
I’d rather see it for what it could be…a good thing for the American people!
Not a single House Dem voted for the BBB, which means all the pork in this bill is coming from the Republicans…and that is shameful for the party MAGA voters elected to clean up our fiscal mess!
For the last three months Musk was the DOGE guru and his harsh words will put a lot of political pressure for the Senate to pare the House bill down more than they otherwise would.
That’s what the American people voted for and that’s what they ought to get!
Elon Musk. Interesting person. In the beginning all excited, jumping for joy, can’t be more enthusiastic than a 16 year old with his first real crush. Job’s done, has the babies, breaks up with the ‘love of his life’ and the next thing we know he can’t dis her enough in public.
Is that how he acted with each of his ex-wives and ex-unwed mothers of his various children. Woo and coo and then do all he can to belittle them once he’s found his new love and needs to move on with no recognition for those he used in the process?
Does he think that by distancing himself from this Administration that, because his mode of operation works on the personal, private, level he can get away with that on a national level and people won’t notice?
He simply is not to be trusted!!
Two things can be true at the same time: 1) Musk has an agenda and 2) MAGA Republicans are a small minority in Congress.
Completely unsurprised – plus a man with how many baby-mammas is unreliable in the loyalty category.
From Peggy Teirney at substack
Trump insiders say there are actually four reasons that Elon is against Trump’s OBBB bill. It has nothing to do with fiscal responsibility – it is all self-serving:
1) The bill cuts the electric vehicle tax credit that helps car makers like Musk’s Tesla. As of late April, Tesla had spent at least $240,000 lobbying on behalf of the credit and other company matters. Behind the scenes, sources say, Musk also advocated for the measure in the legislation, but to no avail.
2) Elon wanted to work for the White House beyond the 130-day time period but Trump said no. Musk was working at the White House as what’s called a “special government employee,” and he had discussed trying to stay in that role beyond the 130-day time limit set by statute for the unpaid advisory position.
3) Musk also wanted the Federal Aviation Administration to use his Starlink satellite system for national air traffic control. But Trump balked at it because of the appearance of a conflict of interest and for technological reasons. “You can’t have air traffic control just run off satellites. You need fiberoptics, too.”
4) Trump abruptly over the weekend announced he was withdrawing the nomination of Jared Isaacman, a Musk ally, to be NASA administrator. Apparently that was the straw that broke the camel’s back. Musk really, really did NOT like that. Musk thought he had that one in the bag and he was going to get total control and more money for his OCCUPY MARS plan.
Personally I’m with Elon ! They all need to be primaried ! I’m going to vote for the lessor of two evils in the general election but I’d like to get the chance to vote for someone I can believe in.
“Americans get the politicians they deserve… good and hard.”
— H. L. Mencken
Elon is being Elon, but the $2.8 trillion in estimated tariff-related deficit savings over the next 30 years amounts to roughly a 3% annual reduction in the growth of the U.S. federal debt. While this sounds substantial, when compared against soaring federal budgets—growing at an average rate of about 4.5% annually—and rising interest costs on over $36 trillion of existing debt, this reduction is relatively minor.
Tariffs have also introduced significant economic instability by disrupting supply chains and triggering retaliatory measures, which in turn will raise borrowing costs and wipe out any positive impact, which is already minuscule.
Without accompanying tax incentives for manufacturers and radical spending cuts, tariffs will never generate a manufacturing boom or meaningful economic growth.
And since the U.S. dollar is a fiat currency backed primarily by trust and GDP rather than gold, sustained instability risks accelerating dedollarization, further undermining fiscal stability.
In short, despite the headline number, the net fiscal and economic impact of tariffs is negligible to negative.
The ‘BBB’ only worsens the problem and the imbeciles will still defend tariffs as a patriotic thing to do.
THIS is a real problem. Real. No amount of fantasizing about 5D chess moves will make it not a problem. It’s not anti-Trump to speak of this problem. It’s a pattern. Of self-sabotage. Speaking of this problem isn’t an attempt to divide PDJT from his base. It’s an attempt to reconnect PDJT to his base. Because he makes this same mistake over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again. In the 45 administration. Again in the 47 administration.
https://web.archive.org/web/20250602080553/https://www.theblaze.com/columns/opinion/trump-keeps-endorsing-the-establishment-he-vowed-to-fight
Unless we, MAGA base, decide to get into our champion’s face with this problem and let him know our support of him isn’t unconditional, that he must deliver, then we will have an entire 47 administration that will be made out of vapor, guaranteed to disappear in 2026/2028. MAGA could walk in 2026 *because* of this problem. And subject PDJT to a D-controlled congress, that acts more decisively to destroy PDJT than the current R-controlled congress acts to advance his agenda.
This is a recipe for failure. And unless PDJT truly takes the road to Damascus he/we will fail. Something isn’t right in his team. And it needs to be fixed. Stat. The “Big Beautiful Bill” compromises wouldn’t be necessary if he had made better primary endorsements in the first place.
Just sayin’.
People are seeing these clowns for who they truly are. Come on Kentucky do better.
I’m pretty sure Elon is talking about primarying the RINO fake-Republicans who refuse to support cutting government, either because they are larded up with NGO kickback money and other graft, or because they are actually big-government leftists. He is not talking about opposing Republican candidates in general elections.
In earlier statements he was explicit about this: “I will fund primary candidates against you.”
Yes! That is exactly what we need, when faced with a Republican Party that hates its own voters and refuses to do what we want.
How is primarying the RINOs not good?
Giving up the advantage that incumbent candidates have is a serious concern, but this is offset if Elon is promising to support these candidates.
It’s hard to run as an outsider because the incumbents have all the monied interests locked up. But Elon has more money than they do. If he’s willing to step up, that’s perfect.
I don’t see what there is to complain about here. Sounds very generous and good to me.
I think a MAGA party is the answer. Ccandidates need to show up and get rid of rings. I also think they should present themselves as DINOs, now wouldn’t that be a change.
Interesting how Trump’s personnel pics have exposed many governmental bad acts and bad actors. The fall out for those involved in the Senate, the government and the private sector will be revealing.
Two things can be true. Elon can be both right and have nefarious goals.
Exactly. I have no love for Mr. Musk who is a government funded parasite on this country, but in this case he is right. Let’s at least be consistent in how we judge the political class. Do what you promised or hit the road.
I don’t think Musk is happy about losing the EV credits in the BBB either.
Defund the CBO, and 600 judgeships as well. Only need 2per state. 5 of the 3 panel for 10 states and 7 for the Supreme Court get rid of Barrett and Bidens who don’t know what a women is.
I have to agree with Elon on this one, the bill is not beautiful. The great things in it that help Main Street are, but without trimming the fat Elon is correct, it undermines the progress. I just hope this is some kind of ploy to get a better deal. Think about this though, those two have had a very long time to plot in close vicinity, it seems crazy to me that these points of view wouldn’t come up between two smart Men. Also, think about who has to pass this deal, name me ONE of them that signs anything unless they personally benefit from it.
Is this earlier than expected split by Elon Musk from PDJT/MAGA the result of Musk’s assumption that with the ascendance of Palantir into the heart of the government’s technology systems that he, Musk, thinks it’s okay for him to begin the separation process?
If so, Mr. Musk hasn’t learned the lesson of patience when it comes to government practices.
Musk has a lot of agendas and more than one master. But I don’t think he’s a politician, and he’s as Trump said a bit like a child. If he wants to make good on his promise, he better be prepared to go to war with all of CONgress.
The BBB is the equivalent of saying we are going to just use Klarna for $550 this pay period instead of $750 for last pay period. We still owe the $750, we are going to owe the $550 too, but if we just keep spending that money well make money. There’s no getting off the train folks, there is no plan to stop the spending until they do as they said in Goodfellas…
“When you can’t borrow another buck from the bank, or buy another case of booze, you bust the joint out. You light a match.”
Get gold, get crypto, and get God because the dollar is headed to $0.
CLASH OF THE EGOS
DOGE is a wonderful idea. Implementation was not very good. DOGE should be a super inspector general (SIG) that has access to everything in every department, and works directly for the President. Once SIG has inspected a department a report is generated to the President. The President tasks the Department to prepare a get-well plan with milestones and a schedule. All problems should be resolved within 180 days. In my limited view it appeared that DOGE went through the various departments identifying problems and directing actions instead of handing off the “action “ part to the department heads. PDJT has hired the best of the best who all have super egos (not a bad thing), then Musk comes in and acts like it is his company. He doesn’t own the US government. I predicted from the beginning there would be a clash of egos. Musk did a lot of good but created irresolvable problems with the cabinet. PJDT had to show him the door and now Musk is throwing temper tantrums. Elon, PJDT is the President, you are , as you have said before, tech support”. Thanks for a great job and good luck.
Could it be the other side is being played. If this BBB is not passed what then? A shutdown? Who gets to pick what is funded in a shutdown? The President? Wouldn’t that be sweet?
I have no idea what his agenda is. Educate me, please.