I said when the alignment first took place, there would come a point when Elon Musk turned on President Trump and attempted to split MAGA into oppositional teams so that Musk could achieve his agenda. Elon Musk is currently mining for team members.
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Elon Musk supports President Donald Trump by putting the House and Senate in control of Democrats?
See this for what it is.
Elon Musk has an agenda, and it has nothing to do with DOGE or spending. Y’all already know what his agenda is, many of you just didn’t want to believe it.
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It can be both, Elon has a not-quite-so-hidden agenda, and, the BBB is an abomination. Because it is, and he does.
President Trump just pulled Elons recommend who was going to help Musk with Space X.
Democrat donor…money to Bob Casey etc.
His senate vote was mere hours away when President Trump cried foul and pulled the nomination.
Am sure Elon is plenty ticked.
Now wait for EV tax rebates to be removed next.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/06/breaking-president-trump-pulls-jared-isaacman-nomination-lead/
Elon just crashed and burned, he’s found his way into no-mans land, right in between the tribes. His timing and choice of issues is always awful.
I’m reminded of Winston Churchill:
“Anyone can rat, but it takes real talent to re-rat.”
He wants the ultimate control over the human race.
What do you think is the goal of Neuralink beyond the superficial altruistic veneer??
And neuralink just got a $650 MILLION venture capital check.
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/06/02/elon-musk-neuralink-raise.html
Of course they did.
Everybody wants to rule the world!
Good song. Rings true!
I don’t know who Elon is playing to here. Democrats already demonized him and Republicans was cautiously optimistic towards him. We trust Trump because he is tough and authentic, Elon can say whatever he wants! We will always support Trump as he stands with us when matters, not Elon. When it got tough, only Trump stood strong, while Elon cut the cord and ran away!
Don’t get me wrong, I still anm thankful and appreciate for him getting to ball rolling for DOGE, which will continue with or without him.
I Agree. If I recall correctly, like the rest of the republican who are against this bill, Musk was a Desantis supporter. He helped Desantis launch his campaign on X. As usual, its all politics. It also gives me hope that President Trump is not on board with the HB1 VISAS and the tech infiltration of our government that Musk wants. But Musk served his purpose. Now he’s out and he’s mad. Looks like maybe he didn’t get his way.
Donald was very gracious with Elon. He tried to help him when he said Elon had never asked him for a thing. He was a patriot. Elon did not get the drift. Still doesn’t.
Elon came aboard with big stealth strings attached. Donald knew this. Donald was upfront with Elon. Now Elon is talking out of both sides of his mouth. He didn’t get the pork he wanted so now he’s attacking the pork.
Don’t try to con Donald Trump. He’s seen it all.
Does the Bill impact the ability of a large Global Corporation HQ’d in the USA from being able to de-stabilize a government and make it fully dependent on that company.
Nailed it !! Touche’!!
OK, now here’s the next step in logic, Elon obviously didn’t get the pork he wanted – And if Elon didn’t get the pork he wanted, then Rand Paul is obviously full of sh!t.
I sympathize with Musk’s frustration. I, too, look at our current situation with continuing annual deficits and mounting debt, and wonder if someone, anyone will step up and work on dealing with same. Mind you, Trump campaigned on balancing our annual budget deficits. There is a lot of “slop” in the BBB that could be eliminated. I guess our best hope is that Trump can grow GDP so significantly that he reduces the debt-to-GDP ratio to a comfortable level. Like Trump likes to say, “I guess we’ll just have to wait and see.”
To the moderators…I did not mean to flag this post. How do I remove the black flag?
Not to worry ruby….take way more than “one’ flagging to remove a comment. 😉
Well, I haven’t studied it closely and can’t verbalize why the bill should be supported …
BUT
I HAVE read spokesmen for Trump explaining that the bill has to be passed to lock in prior tax cuts for working folks, they’ll rescind if not and Trump and Pubs will get blame and some bad consequences, like losing the mid-terms
And there’s other stuff, I’m sure, otherwise PresTrump wouldn’t be calling it a “big, beautiful bill” … there’ve got to be some things in it that are important to him
Other budget cutting can start in the next cycle, but for now PresTrump and his cabinet are saying this should be passed
That’s just gotta be enough for me, I can’t devote the mental horsepower (nor do I even have it, possibly) to sort things out beyond that
Relax, Elon … wait for the next cycle
because some weapons President Trump wants to use to better his position against Global threats is in it.
its mixed with backstabbing bullsh-t because thats how DC works.
anyone confused is not even in the understanding of how dark it is. it would be just venting with no hope of ever getting anything from it to not see what these Bills are.
Buy Man A, Buy Man B, Buy Man C (to not hurt, to help you, to not render aid to enemy, to not being a road block..
you buy then with something put in a Bill.
I love your terminolgy “Mental Horsepower”! I still have faith in PDJT, and as another poster said, “He’s seen it all” I KNOW PJDT isn’t motivated by $$ (now) and , even if the Axios stuff is true, I don’t think Elon is either. I’m thinking Elon is pissed about all the pork, but he needs to let it all play out
Based on the highly specific and very abitious list presented by Caputo on Bannon this evening, I think the pork Musk is pi$$ed about is the pork he didn’t get.
Caputo also noted that Musk’s initial projections of the enormous savings he anticipated making were continually revised downward, and ultimately fell signifigantly below his original estimates.
It’s a Reconciliation Bill. Stephen Miller has knocked himself out explaining a “reconciliation bill”.
The DOGE rescission package will be voted on separately.
If we want the continued tax cuts this big beautiful bill must be passed or there will be an across the board, 68% tax increase for e.v.e.r.y.o.n.e. (I could be wrong…it might be 86%, but you get the gist.)
This is Washington, D.C. folks.
Accept this reality and move along for the other fight.
Fun watching the “MAGA” grifters who kissed up to Egor trying the pretend their way through this. They’re gonna lose their livelihood if they back MAGA so the plan appears to be the 4D chess, Trust the Plan route. Money changes everything
Elon helped us. right
or it conclusive he did nothing for us in exchange for something for him.
We dont get to see President Trump misalign with us, because the threats on his life keep him interwined with us until death do us part.
Scoop: Four reasons Musk attacked Trump’s “big beautiful bill”
https://www.axios.com/2025/06/03/elon-musk-trump-white-house-relationship
IDK, maybe Musk got his feelings hurt.
Can’t read it. You have to sign in to read it.
Myfairlady, I got to the Axios article via a link at citizenfreepress.com
Here are the 4 reasons from the article :
“The sources familiar with the Trump-Musk relationship say there appeared to be four inflection points that led to his caustic attack on Trump’s bill:
I read elsewhere that Isaacman said he would prioritize Musk’s Mars mission even though he knew it was not part of President Trump’s agenda for NASA. Not sure if that’s true or not. He did donate to dems like the awful Mark Kelly.
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I wish Elon would just grow up and stop fussing about Mars. Send up your robots before you try to go there.
And so many commenters do not believe that President Donald John Trump does not have the ability to do research, think for himself, use his intelligence agencies, use his securities agencies and make the best decisions for the American People!
Did you really believe that Elon Musk or anyone else like him, would usurp President Donald John Trump?
Seriously?
Shame!
Plus it is Axios. Not worth it.
I was able to read it without signing in. Given it is Axios, I read it with a grain of salt. A small grain though since the nitwits there likely think they are continuing an attack on Musk and further driving a wedge between him and the President.
Could all of it be true? Certainly. Can Musk act like a petulant child? Certainly.
I am still on the fence with what Musk actually meant with his post. I took it to mean he was disgusted with Congress loading the bill up with crap like they usually do, not any insult to the President as the left has been trying hard to portray.
The media has been pushing the headline that Musk has been attacking the President and his bill, which is not what he said in his post.
YES THIS:
“I took it to mean he was disgusted with Congress loading the bill up with crap like they usually do, not any insult to the President as the left has been trying hard to portray.”
This is no surprise. a good amount of the MAGA movement tried to whitewash his sexual proclivities and his previous satanic worship because he “was on our team.”
However, I am getting whiplash as it was just a week or so ago when a good many here was thanking him for his works. He literally represents, along with his Palantir buddies, the electronic surveillance state.
We are all abused children so willing to forget when someone is “nice” to us.
Some things are a freight train bearing down and you won’t stop it … you don’t stand a chance
That “electronic surveillance state” is such a thing
Anguishing over stuff is likely better spent anguishing over other stuff than that
‘Ey, I’m just sayin’ …
I can thank Elon for his past contributions & then tell him to PissOff. He did help get PDJT elected after all.
Can’t you?
Agreed. I cannot imagine how hard it would be for President Trump to continue his string of policy wins all over the world if billions continued flowing to USAID and millions of those minions continued their meddling in US and foreign affairs.
You called it, Sundance!
Just like President Trump, Sundance is right about everything!
Elon got what he wanted (if you dont know, look you can find it)
President Trump got what he wanted.
now they are splitting because their wants dont align anymore.
His mentor Always programmed him this way. or one of his mentors
“The Sovereign Individual: How to survive and thrive during the collapse of the welfare state is a 1997 non-fiction book by William Rees-Mogg and James Dale Davidson. Later republished on 26 August 1999 by Touchstone with the new subtitle Mastering the Transition to the Information Age. It forecasts the development of the twenty-first century; focusing on the rise of the internet and cyberspace, digital currency and digital economy, self-ownership and decentralization from the State.”
If you don’t get that. Then I don’t believe you.
Who is the He in “His mentor”. Elon’s mentor or DJT’s mentor?
listened to many interviews of Thiel and picked up this.. Through extension would be co-partners and other people like Zuckerberg
Peter Thiel (and now CEO of Palantir) wrote the foreword for more recent revisions of the book.
“Governments, they argued, would be led to maintain diplomatic relations with major entrepreneurs in the same way as they do with countries.
This idea is borne out by the fact that today, outside the confines of any political organization, these business leaders are becoming major players on the world’s diplomatic stage. Take Elon Musk who, with his companies SpaceX and Tesla, is playing a crucial role in the global future of aerospace, finance and the energy transition, and is even taking a stand in certain armed conflicts (deciding, for example, to activate the Starlink satellite Internet service at the start of the war in Ukraine). This is also true of Mark Zuckerberg, who owns the world’s largest social network (Meta). This information giant has become a powerful player in the world’s political affairs, not least because he can ban anyone from his networks (Facebook, WhatsApp, Instagram) at any time, and because he possesses vast amounts of data on the world and its markets.”
https://davetroy.medium.com/the-case-of-the-sovereign-individual-unlocking-the-mystery-of-rey-rivera-32b48c2f4c57
Here is a link to the bill
https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/1/text
All I can say is if this doesn’t pass and get signed, we are all going to be in a world of hurt!
This is NOT A BUDGET BILL. It is a RECONCILIATION bill. It cannot make cuts because it is not a BUDGET.
Everyone should be harassing their electeds to make sure they actually work on the 2026 Budget and include ALL of the cuts identified by DOGE.
i think the point of it is to fail.
aiding china, and ukraine, and weaking President Trump seems to be the majority of our Branch’s people’s goal.
that idiot Rand could say ‘I disagree with this one part, but i see the reason why he wants it, because it doesnt cap his spending which he thinks will grow our country and help us be less depeneded on other countries – So i will hold my nose and vote for it’…
he doesnt because he is the MVP of the Secret Empire Group – Mitch, Pelosi, Graham, Romney,
MAGA is all Elon has left. The democrats will imprison him for 50 years if they gain back the executive branch. He is only doing this charade to get the left to leave his businesses alone.
Elon will topple those dependent skin bags with a simple rug pull from the Government on tech for this for this .. and tech being transported to this or that,,, and AI advice based on stealing our data for free during his buy out of twitter, and then during DODGE.
Rand Paul now tweeting how it’s Rand and Elon against PDJT–What an immature little twerp Rand Paul is. Way to go Elon.
Rand, like the CBO, see economic growth as a static number over the next years, whereas the Trump Administration sees in increasing dramatically over the same time period thus reducing the deficit.
Libertarians know every little about the economy despite being self proclaimed experts on it.
Rand, like the CBO, sees economic growth as a static number over the next year, whereas the Trump Administration sees it increasing dramatically over the same time period, thus reducing the deficit.
you either have to try to save the country, by expanding and investing to expand…
Rand is sacraficing this country for his next few years unharassed. (President Trump creating a team to hunt people that threaten Congress would be a good start)
or you have to admit defeat and slowly erode our country into a Global Union after building up private cities for elites in every wasteland on this earth.
Elon Musk has always been a liar and a fraud.
I pray that the taller “little X’–Elon will grow up ….I agree with Sundance about Musk’s motives because he has left a trail of ‘Whoas’: His China investment with Tesla; his want and need for continued tax credits for his Electric cars WHICH ARE NOT INCLUDED IN THE BIG BEAUTIFUL BILL; his request was denied when he asked to extend his Dodge position longer than the temporary months he was tasked; he wanted to change the upgrade of FAA system which a conflict existed as well as this system needs fiber optics; behind the scenes disagreements with Sec of State, Marco Rubio, Sec. of Treasury, Scott Bessent, and Sec. of Transportation, Sean Duffy as well as Professor Peter Navarro and his closed-minded defense of H-1B visas… I wonder, do you think that the Ten Commandments are truly in his soul?
Elon’s disapproval should be taken with a grain of salt.The man is on the spectrum and he has emotional upheavals from time to time. It’s understandable with all the stress from business, security and personal entanglements.
I don’t read too much into these inflammatory episodes that become news stories. He makes a good point about the spending though, and Congress has lost all semblance of fiscal responsibility, which is nothing new.
There is no such thing as “on the spectrum”. That is a made up word and a made up diagnosis for someone who is simply a supremely selfish asshole with poor impulse control.
Just another day in the Trump-Musk universe.
And the Uniparty Republicans ALSO wants to put the Democrats in charge of Congress too.
Yes, because that would put us back into gridlock and business will at least have a stable period where nothing gets done. The stalemate is achieved and new laws cannot be passed. The like it when the rollercoaster stops for a while.
I might have to step back, and understand Elon/Trump relationship.
My feelings are that Trump has Trust ISSUES! … With everyone, he welcomes people but has his “suspicious cat” vibe, up, … just like the cat that Sundance posts in a number of his threads.
Well, Trump has that vibe, ALL the TIME. That is why over time people have a “problem” with Trump, they sense it , …
We all are suspicious about people, normal, … Elon threw his HEART into supporting Trump. Trump enjoyed Elon doing that and helping MAGA.
Elon is all in or all out! That is Elon. Trump was Elon’s mentor and loved how Trump talked about him.
Trump has to be careful about “trusting people” because many people have betrayed him over the course of his life.
If TRUMP gets MAD at you, … he has the idea, “this guy is a choker, he fails and is a LOSER”, and that is the End of Story! Trump is WINNER and hangs out with WINNERS.
But Trump does fail, everybody does, I do, you do, we all do. Part of LEARNING something NEW involves growing pains. 🙂
Elon was LOYAL to Trump! UNTIL he saw TRUMP compromise with slimmy people. How does Trump handle Lindsey Graham! … how do you think TRUMP really feels about Lindsey? Ok, … he compromises with Lindsey …. “the ART of the DEAL”, I don’t know. You tell me.
We have TRUMP working for America, and he said he uses everything he learned in business, and will apply it to HELPING AMERICA. I believe Trump.
Now, Trump will need to sit down and have a long talk with Elon. Let’s hope. Elon let off steam, and he does it a lot, … so? …. Elon makes mistakes , … and geniuses make lots of mistakes … Edison was famous for bragging about how many mistakes he made until he find the answer to problem . Elon tries so many times to find solutions, and he makes tons of mistakes … owns it, and … … until he stumbles on solution.
Trump is not the same as Elon. Trump is business man, Elon is INVENTOR! Different mindset.
I hope Trump and Elon work together to MAGA. 🙂
Not true. Elon is a builder/businessman, too. He did not invent the electric car, rocket ships, satellite communications, social networks. Elon has just improved on what has come before him.
Wolverine
How much of the “BBB” is really Trumps agenda and how much is the usual ” OK, I’m in …but I want this too” BS ?
Odds are 75% is goodies the legislators want for money, power, or both.
I’m long on tesla. There’s a lot of lazy humans that want robots to do thier chores. They’re not just cars. I’d buy spacex if it was public.
You can sleep at night while your self driving Tesla works as a taxi until dawn. Win-win.
SD predicted this months ago !
Now that Elon has come out against the BBB for it’s “outrageous” spending, hypocrite Chuck Schumer should support the bill and get his caucus to vote for it. But don’t hold your breath.
Elon BIG MAD because he didn’t get his special favors….
I truly appreciate the DOGE concept & accomplishments.
However, God teaches us to perform good deeds without attachment to the results…God is the Doer in all things and the results belong to Him.
Karma, Elon.
Given past and recent IC attacks on Russia, MAGA has only limited control of one branch.
The Congress and Judicial branch is at least 2/3rds triators, criminals, IC compromised, and useful idiots, not mutual exclusive.
We can extend this math into the EU and CCP, and now South Korea, our list of allies grows thin.
The hour is late.
God has clearly found the right people to expose the global corruption and evil and force a choice to support, ignore or fight this.
That perhaps is his objective.
This close to 2000 years since the ascension.
Sorry but I don’t see Musk as being in the wrong here. This is the exact same betrayal Boehner & Ryan pulled after voters handed them congress in 2011. Musk is right to call them out for corruption and cowardice.
Amen you nailed it. Elon knows the spending numbers must be reigned in to have a sound economic future.
The louses in Congress are only doing the bidding of their donors, not the voters.
Corrupt congressional cowards sums it up nicely.
Look —I love Trump, but he’s wrong, and Elon is right. The United States is in the midst of a debt spiral, and this is the only chance we have of any meaningful change. Trump has a mandate to fix things, and what does he do? Bitch about the guys who ACTUALLY want to cut spending. He had the chance to take some short term pain and be on Mount Rushmore, and he’s blowing it.
This is not a budget bill.
BBB is a a type of bill called aReconciliation Bill which means it is only allowed to make cuts to mandatory spending like Medicaid.
Most of the proposed DOGE cuts are classed as discretionary spending which cannot be included in a Reconciliation type bill. This bill will prevent the 2017 tax cuts from disappearing and will stop Medicaid abuse like the 1.6 million illegals on Medicaid.
President Trump is fixing the situation by focusing on revving the econonmy to hugely increase revenue. The debt is way too large to fix by cuts. We need to bring in such huge growth to GDP that we can pay down the debt.
Twenty five percent of America’s GDP is federal spending not the private sector. If we hugely cut federal spending before revving the economy, GDP tanks followed by the economy.
The Recission bills and appropriation bills will be where DOGE cuts get made permanent.
43% of GDP is Government Spending. At least that’s what the little bean counter Latina on Glen Beck said a couple days ago.. I heard it in the car coming back from the health food store.
43% includes state and local government spending. Yes, I heard Glenn Beck talk about this too. 25% is Federal Wonder how we ever got along without government spending our money?
The bill does not increase spending. The “cost” is literally due to the tax cuts. The so called deficit increase is due to the CBO’s nonsense guesses that don’t put into account the tariff revenue (could be up to half a trillion by the end of the year).
I liked Musk. And will always like the man. Going against Trump in such a public manner is not wise even though he may be right.
Yep.
Do tell.
I don’t know what else a man can do for a Country than Elon Musk has done for the United States Of America.
Personality does not factor in mathematics.
Nonsense. Has he fought in a war? Has he died in battle? Get real…
Next to Tom Homan or Stephen Miller, Elon hasn’t even broken a sweat–those guys are the actual doers.
Do tell, Reverend Obnoxious, what specifically has Elon Musk done for the USA?
gratitude is good for you. Some practice it because of that. There is always something to be thankful for
The bill, without appropriate cuts is a steaming pile of crap. Musk is not wrong.
The bill is putrid. I let. My first term congressman know I’m sick of kicking the can down the road. We can’t grow ourselves out of this debt. The whole things a mess. Started with President Trump not demanding we cut spending with a chainsaw. Hopefully the Senate can make some progress. When Mike Johnson looks in the mirror he sees Paul Ryan. Absolutely can’t stand that man.
If you think we can actually pay off the debt by spending zero dollars and letting everything from the military to Medicaid just vanish, then you’re just ignorant.
The only realistic plan is Trump’s plan to grow faster than debt. Anything else is just typical libertarian nonsense.
President Trump is working with what he can get thru Congress. Elon won’t be able to peel off any substantial support from President Trump. We have been there before and it won’t happen. Elon can huff and puff but that is all.
The BARE NAKED TRUTH about Musk. Short-attention-span theater goers may not recall him telling normal American citizens to do an unnatural act to themselves because we didn’t agree with his personal point of view. Glad I won’t be seeing him as he sizzles in that consuming lake of fire.
I cannot unsee him in that insulting Bafomet halloween outfit that was not really a costume but an expression of his allegiance.
Do you realize that having that many children with multiple women to whom you are not married is an insult to divine directive? And very destructive to the children.
He rejects AI as dangerous while installing brain AI and pretends that his legions of creepy humanoid robotics are not possibly going to damage society.
He wants to go to the most desolate, disgusting, desert landscape in the solar system for some reason. I hope he goes tonight.
The answer is simple.
SHUT IT DOWN …until “we” get what we need. no more, no less.
He’s not wrong. The bill has a bunch of bs spending as usual. Just because Trump puts his name behind it doesn’t mean it’s good.
Not directly related to the “bill”, but here is my prediction:
The Left makes a switcheroo and suddenly thinks Musk is amazing again, slap-fighting to get ahead in line to buy a Tesla.
luv all the spending cuts and codified DOGE cuts in the bill…..and Admin’s request for $10B in rescisssion!!!!!!!
AWESOME!!!! AWESOME!!!!! \sarc………..LMFAO
Trump will still wax Johnson all the way.
Look….1st term: did trump reel in spending? NOPE.
Expect more of the same here w dollops of “can’t touch medicaid hahahahaha”
The gop will never cut spending or pass an actual budget
I’m confused here. I thought Musk had said he would bankroll primary opponents for the RINOs. That isn’t putting Democrats back in charge.
In November?
It may be this simple:
Musk needs to separte himself from PDJT in the ‘minds’ of emotionally driven ‘progressive’ potential/historical Tesla owners and buyers.
So he made a very emotion-laden seperation which will endear him to those who buy Teslas fo inherently emotional reasons thinking they are cool. Tesla sales will improve.
NASA sales will be unaffected because he has tech dominance.
Everyone, including Elon, must realize that the Washington sausage making factory is here to stay.
The best possible bill IS NOT EQUAL TO the best bill possible.
Donald Trump dragged them across the finish line in ’24, they owe this to him.
You called it Sundance. Musk would rather do business with the Chinese Communist Party, than with the USA.
Elon knows the Great Depression is coming… and he is setting the stage for his Political agenda over 2031-2034 Great Depression window…. He’s garnering his future in politics…
The GOP sucks so bad at governing. We have 4 votes to spare in the house. Spare me all the cost cutting bloviating.
Come back to cutting, right now Trump needs a win and some winds at our backs. We have four years, this is bill #1. Cut his knees off now and suffer grave consequences and for what? Learn how to govern, learn momentum. Learn math. It’s basic 101 you rubes.
And yet Elon Musk speaks absolute truth about the BBBILL. Even Trump himself states he wants more fiscal accountability in the bill.
Like it or not, Musk just acutely sacrificed his and his family’s personal safety ,personal income loss, fiduciary role to shareholders in his country due to relentless , dangerous, leftist resistance .
It is insane to claim he has some hidden agenda when he put it all on the line to get Trump into office and address through DOGE debt and deficit spending.
What a shame it is to witness the same people who were vicious when they attacked what they termed RINOS in the not so past for signing on to omnibus mammoths, and bloated CRs- suddenly point fingers at Elon for doing the exact same thing.
This Bill is BAD.. Every year the egregious spending just increases and the same old lame theme of just trust us we will cut when it’s safe to do so. we just have to spend our way out of debt and fund all these programs or we’ll fall apart. God and his scripture is the ONLY source of truth, everything else comes with the deceit and lies of satan and his worlds system. Come out from among them and be ye separate touch not the unclean thing. Wish Mr President could just ask for/present a constitutional spending/tax bill.. no NATO, UN, foreign aid or WAR spending and get rid of ALL the unconstitutional Departments and Bureau’s. There is not 1 reason to have any Federal police force or CIA, we have a war department and states exercise law enforcement.
Okay, stop what you are doing.
Ask yourself this:
Did the man Donald John Trump predict this scenario in his mind when he met with Elon Musk and other Techies?
Do you really believe President Donald John Trump is SHOCKED! Stumped! Does Not Know What To Do Tomorrow?
Seriously?
Carry on.
Stay Frosty and Strapped!
Pres. Trump dealth with the New York Construction Scene as a Builder, he’s faced worse.
Also, Musk is now reviled by the Left. They’ll never forgive him. And Musk’s history with Weed won’t make him fans on ourside.
Musk can elude himself that he’s what won Pres. Trump Re-election but at the end of the day, Musk needs Pres. Trump more than Pres. Trump needs Elon.
What does weed have to do with our acceptance of Musk? Are you still in the 1960s?
This may shock you. But, I know more than one conservative that smokes “weed”. God gave us medicine to use.
Doesn’t make them particularly bright for using it and most don’t use it for it’s medicinal value.
Sorry, but to say it’s medicine is a complete misnomer. The active THC, more of it, makes it more inherent to addiction than ever before.
Just my opinion. Smoking weed for enjoyment or medicinal makes it no different to me.
Musk’s history with weed? What century are you from? Are you the hallway guard? So what if he tokes a smoke and successfully sends rockets to and from space. Have you had a glass of wine in the last 50 years?
Mmaybe so but Musk did in fact open the eyes of America to the evil the Democrat Party tried to enact.It cannot be unseen or undone for decades.
with the last effort of the ObamaPicture a society being drained by evil maggots eating everything REPUBLICANS DO IN SPITE OF THE RINOS within. It will take decades to fully grasp what the Democrat Party tried to do to America.
Some observe many signs that there are veiled Controllers steering Trump, Musk, and the rest of the “leaders”, who are all manipulated actors in a Grande Theatre playing out on top of the tectonic shifts steering the managed decline of the US Bloc while the China Bloc rises.
With this latest Musk drama, the curtains come down on the DOGE vignette: It never was about tackling the deficit or debt, and as its “failure” becomes clear the main actors follow the script to part ways while maintaining their characters.
What were the real goals of DOGE? We can hazard some guesses based on outcomes it is driving.
It drove a brain drain in the DoD civilian workforce that continues, with “DRPs” luring the most experienced technical experts and leadership to depart. This, as the administration issues lofty plans to transform and build up the military, including Golden Dome which is patently farcical. ($175B, 3 years, without adequate testing? Gimme a break.)
The widespread indiscriminate cuts created widespread fear and anxiety, always important tools for those seeking to manipulate societies. In government, they didn’t “drive efficiencies” – on the contrary, they created more chaos and dysfunction.
It drove a data extraction and analysis initiative into the government bureaucracy by an extra-government organization serving the surveillance and control state framework being finalized, leaving the tentacles in place for the next phases of this Plan.
And, it continues to provide gist for the Theatre.
Lol. good luck with that narrative
I must agree with the Musk assessment. President Trump has been through this before. Sometimes you have to take a big load of bad to get an even greater load of good. Elon’s 130 day contributions have been outstanding, so what’s the problem with his griping?
I agree and have come up with some thoughts:
Sundance is right a lot, but not always.
• The one thing I agree on, Musk can turn on a dime, I think he’s bipolar, maybe willingly part of the NWO. It seems he has two different identities in his body. But does he have the energy and power to betray Trump?
• I really doubt Musk would try to get Democrats, the Dems would willingly spend as more or more than the Republicans are doing.
• There are not very many sane Democrats these days, and they are responsible for the destruction of Tesla sales. It would be insane to make them allies.
• What Sundance says might be so but Trump knows Elon’s vulnerabilities. And Trump can cut off all military spending with Musk, and make his life hard in many ways
• The problem Musk has is, he thinks Trump is not aware of his weaknesses and it’s not just women. Trump is very aware, almost at cosmic levels of reality.
• There may be another problem many of the tech guys may side with Elon. Many of them already hate Trump, they are just on board for the money ride. But would they really walk away from massive government funding on AI. NO! They may be ideologically different but that doesn’t stop them from working with the government
• So, If this is true, I hope Trump has a plan to cool it down!
• Almost every sane conservative citizen hates this bill, it’s another monolithic boondoggle. I’m waiting to see what the senate can do. But it’s true there are obviously not worried about waste, fraud and abuse. I think the only way Trump is backing it is there may be good things in it, but Trump is relying on the Tariffs that will bring in billions and pay off the debt. Ron Johnson with Tucker yesterday said no one in house or senate are concerned by the catastrophic debt. The one thing we wouldn’t do is betray Trump.
Trump did not deal with worse – he’s now dealing with Satan’s ensconced power structures in the world here – the real raw nerve center. Support him, but don’t pretend like he’s God Himself here. Sure He is in control but put your trust in no man – we all see through a glass darkly.