Earlier today President Trump was questioned about the current status of Ukraine-Russia peace talks, as contrast against the upcoming meeting between Volodymyr Zelenskyy and Vladimir Putin in Turkey this Thursday.
President Trump said he was optimistic about the meeting which is the first direct face-to-face discussion between the leaders of the two warring nations since the beginning of the conflict. “I would fly there if I thought it would be helpful,” Trump said. “Thursday’s meeting with Russia and Ukraine is really important. I was really insistent that that meeting take place. I think good things can come out of that meeting. Stop the bloodshed, it’s a bloodbath.” WATCH:
President Trump is traveling to the Middle East right now for a series of meetings in Saudi Arabia, Qatar and the United Arab Emirates. President Zelenskyy quickly responded via Twitter, “all of us in Ukraine would appreciate it if President Trump could be there with us at this meeting in Türkiye.”
There is a precedent for President Trump to make quick scheduling changes. You might remember he ditched the press conference in Canada at the conclusion of the G7 events, and shocked the world by showing up at the DMZ in North Korea to meet with Chairman Kim Jong-un. President Trump famously walked into North Korea without any security detail. It was one of the most bold and stunning events in recent political history.
Can you imagine if President Trump showed up at the meeting between Zelenskyy and Putin. lol
If President Trump makes a few hours detour to Turkey on Thursday, the media will go bananas….
….Which is part of the reason the detour is entirely plausible.
Trump’s the greatest!
THAT’S MY PRESIDENT!
Of my lifetime, hands down.
Of our Countries lifetime, hands down.
FIFY
Absolutely, the GOAT!
People thought he wouldn’t meet with Zelensky at the Pope’s funeral, but there he was.
The assassins have to scramble.
Exactly. Never know where he will show up.
It might be helpful to have a third party there to prevent the post meeting blame game to the press and keep the players honest as to what happened in the meeting.
Plus it would just be plain fun for the rest of us if he did show up.
Trump 2028!
i could tolerate PT being in the same room as Z as long as
PT and PVP meet for several hours after Z leaves.
you think a detour would cause splodies?
how about an unannounced summit between USA and Russia? 👍🏻😁
PT and PP running the race while the DS is back at the starting gate!😂
Yeah, I visualize SD’s comment about circling the end of the driveway on their bicycles. Only this time it’s the DS on their bikes. Too funny.
Steve Witkoff and Marco Rubio shuttled from meeting with Puitn, or his people, to meeting with the Iranians, to reporting to President Trump, and then back around again.
And sure, in the process met with Zman, and the 3 Cokeheads running EU.
I thjink Russia played a key role in convincing Iran to come to the table, and to give up its nukes, in exchange for recognition and normal trade relations with the U.S.
If I am right, the Big man only shows up to announce the agreement, and the Iran deal will be signed this weekend. And he may well then fly to Turkey and make good on his pronise to President Putin, to reign in the little cokehead Zman, and so return to D.C.as the peacemaker extraordinaire.
A deal with Persia throws a big monkey wrench into some folks’ plans. Difficult to launch an air assault against a country that just agreed to no nukes and trade with the US. Every country, every interest, has its nut job fanatics. No exceptions.
Right, and then they’ll give the nobel peace prize to Zman.
That’s just about what it is worth these days. Actually, at this point it is almost an insult to be named a Peace Prize winner.
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I would like to see President Trump be nominated and awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.
Then refuse to show up and accept it.
Given their history, they deserve nothing less.
Like Bob Dylan, decline it.
Like a rolling stone…
did he ???
sejmon: No, Dylan did not decline, but he did not travel to accept the prize.
By not accepting the honor in person, Dylan diminished the significance of the prize as not worthy of his personal time and attention. He blew off the Nobel committee.
He has been nominated for three in the past.
Personally, I’m enjoying this real life “movie” so much that I hope these momentous events are NOT rushed so I can savor each one of them properly and properly give heart felt thanks for each one.
Gourmet multi course feast versus everything served all at once buffet.
Take the time to savor each exquisite bite versus gulp and dash
… then play a round of golf with Putin, Zylenskyy, the Ayotollah, and Don Jr.
Of course, Don Sr wins. Then buys steaks for everyone anyway, back at the clubhouse.
I don’t feel completely comfortable with President Trump in the vipers den. Why come “helicopter parent” the Boogersugar Banditos? They have lost any face they might have had.
The more we enable NATO/IC/zeds behavior the more outrageous it will become, guaranteed.
Every day, this great man makes history for the ages
Congress needs to codify those EOs. Lest they are rescinded by the next president. Write to congress. I do. Every week.
I kind of find this concerning too.
“I kind of find this concerning too”.
Hopefully helpful Light Hearted response:
My feels == My choice.
Thank God for free will.
I’m free to make different choices whenever I want to do so.
“I don’t feel completely comfortable with President Trump” ……
(insert whatever he’s currently doing or MIGHT do in the future)
When experiencing uncomfy feels while on President T’s Gloriously Wild Ride
perhaps try reframing uncomfy feels so they are no longer viewed as a warning that something is bad.
Instead perhaps try viewing uncomfy feels as a VERY POSITIVE sign that something unfamiliar is happening; truly good things that were previously unimaginable.
Perhaps view uncomfy feels as a natural reaction to being one of the few human beings who are lucky enough to be on this utterly unique, history transforming adventure with our G.O.A.T POTUS?
One benefit to this reframing is that uncomfy feels are transformed into grateful feels and heart felt prayers of thanks.
#BonVoyage😘
We’ve already had at least 2 (possibly 3) would be assassins who had direct or indirect ties to Ukraine.
behavior
-This is the ex US ambassador to Russia.
outrageous
-McFaul: Trump Should ‘Push Back’ On Putin Demands To Interrogate U.S. Officials
The neocon propaganda is strong with this one!!
We the patriotic taxpayers of the U.S.A. have been unwillingly an enabler for that twerp and that laundromat country.
VSG President Donald George John Smith Patton Trump. The President sent to reprise the work of the great WWII general. Folk Hero, Legend, Arse kicker of the deep state globalists.
I think he may have brokered this. Called erdogan last week. Kept pretty quiet with tacit approval during the EU goonie fest. And immediately backed Putins push for a meeting in Instanbul.
It’d fit the outwardly chaotic way DJT moves the chess pieces around
This “game” you speak of is being paid for with the blood, sweat and tears of generations of Americans toil and suffering…
The only thing America first about ALL this BS is that We The People are paying the bill with Our public Monies {OPM}, to enemy interests {Federal Reserve}…
POTUS is beholden to the Government {mob} first…
Not We The People {America} first.
Personality does not factor in mathematics.
The Truth has no agenda.
Inexcusable.
In God We Trust
{All others pay cash}
Trust God
Fear not
The game I’m
Speaking of is diplomacy to get 2 warring parties talking
The game Kitting speaks of is Doom and Gloom.
And lots of distractions and red herrings.
Yes Maquis and personally I’m getting really tired of the Doom and Gloom from him. I just won’t bite when he provokes the gloom! Not worth it, as I am trying to live my best life and enjoying the winnamins we are getting. Have a great evening.
*NOTED*…. 🎯
And assertions, selective facts, and all around bullshyte.
Bolshoi Spaciba, Maquis!
Uh, excuse me, TWO warring parties talking?
India and Pakistan, and not just talking, but a complete cessation of hostilities.
So, thats TWO, but then there is Russua/Ukraine, and as they WILL be talking, that counts as FOUR.
“But wait, theres MORE!” cause there is the 30+ year conflict between Iran and the Great Satan, so thats at least SIX.
We do need to be frank about these things. 😎
What’s your point?
No one knows.
Turn off the computer and breathe a little. Or listen to some old Jean Shepherd Radio Shows. Ron Paul is not running again.
“Ask and you shall receive”.
David’s request for a heart healing blessing has been received and already sent.
Accepted? ” Return to Sender” Rejected?
As PDJT often responds when asked about things beyond his control, “lets see what happens; hopefully it will be something good”.
If he thinks the safety is there for a last minute detour, go for it! Last minute detour…. 😉
That would be awesome! How wonderful right now having President Trump, an adult who brings positive results for everyone.
Putin will not be meeting with Zelenskyy.
https://sonar21.com/trump-still-does-not-understand-what-russia-wants-and-demands/
Larry Johnson hates/doesn’t understand Trump. Trump has stated clearly nato expansion caused much of this. He has no issue giving territorial concessions to Russia. He isn’t firmly in favor of any group of peacekeepers and doesn’t want to provide ukr with security guarantees
Johnson is wrong about quite a lot
It’s an interesting article.
Especially the interview with Elizaveta.
Worth reading and watching the video.😏
If I limited myself to only people I agree with 100% ..
all the time…
By golly…I would probably be a Looney Tune…Democrat!🤣
People who base their opines involving PDJT on beliefs that are demonstrably NOT TRUE
may be worth watching:
to gain psywar useful intel around the online narratives du jour
to monitor and pray for online influencers who are still damaged by The Regimes Anti Trump programming.
Without PsyWar Savvy, Spiritual Maturity and Mission FOCUSED preparation viewing TDS damaged online opiners is a “Dangerous Liason” that in hindsight was an ultimately “Fatal Attraction”.
Agreed. Something changed with LJ and Sonar21 a while back. I got the feeling that “producing content” became a priority over the quality of the work.
I’ve gotten that same feeling when macgregor shows up on the different shows
Over at sonar they are a bunch of TDS sufferers, and Jew haters, especially LJ.
Do they hate Jews or just Israel’s genocide?
His interview in the article with the young lady journalist Elizaveta who travels and reports with the Russian troops was great!
The troops treat her like “smaller sister ” and are protective. 👍
What a brave and beautiful young lady!
👏👍👍👏
As for whether there will be a meeting..who knows 🤷♀️
We just have to wait and see!
“trump-still-does-not-understand”
More reactive projection.
Too bad. Both he and his followers who are actually good hearted are missing out.
I’m reminded of the many stories about drowning people who fight a life guard who’s trying to save them.
Thanks
So many here are confused about this Thursday.
Godzilla Trump’s reign from June of 2015 until January of 2029, and everything he’s endured, might prove that Mount Rushmore is too small of a lasting tribute…we must start thinking bigger! 💥🇺🇸💥🇺🇸💥
Let’s give him a whole mountain!
Mount Trump ?
How about renaming Mt. Ranier? That’d be impressive in keeping with the stature of the man.
Why not? Worked for McKinley, whovalso knew the beauty of tariffs!
“Mount Trump”
Considering the sexual innuendos?
If so, Kek yes but ultimately no.
I dunno… either his face on the moon, or a monument on Mars… got to think bigly….
I have no confidence in this meeting producing any positive results, with or without President Trump. Lil Z does not want the money flow to his Swiss account to end. The CIA does not want to cut off their funds and power over Trump. The euroweenies hate Russia because Vlad will not go along with the one world Bush family controlling every soul on the planet.
The only way this war will end is for Trump to wash his hands of it, cut off all US support, tell the euroweenies and any other country giving aid of any kind to either side will be banned from importing any goods from any European country until the war ends.
Maybe some one will send lil Z to meet the devil and Putin can take all of Ukraine, declare it a Russian state and an end to the war. With it being totally a Russian state, it will mean an end to any future war between Ukraine and Russia. Putin can round up all of the Ukrainian NAZI, try them as war criminals and put them in front of a firing squad.
He can destroy the biological labs set up by Fauchi and the CIA and also declare them as terrorists and use his secret police to capture them and try them and execute them. Or, do what the Israeli government did to the terrorists who killed Israeli Olympians.
Agree completely with your overall point, but think the meeting, if it were to happen, or, if not, I think Trump’s continued insistence on a good faith meeting, throwing his hat in the ring as an attendee, has a vital impact all its own. It’s his brand of insistent, longer term negotiating stance that has yielded extraordinary results throughout his life and career. He’s a remarkable tactician and strategist.
More important than ending the war is ending the offenses that provoked it.
A premature cessation of hostilities that preserves the ability to continue those offenses would only ensure that another war would take place.
Those offenses were and would be the persecution of Russophillic souls, which Ukraine delights in.
Ending the war killing, while enabling the continued “peacetime” killing by UkroNazies, is no victory.
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That’s why I would like to see Russia take over Ukraine and make it a part of Russia.
Exactly. I have been saying all along, the delay is NOT because Zman/Ukraine need Security Guarantees,…its Russia that needs such gurantees.
This is exactly what I would like to see happen, with the added feature that the U.S. will impose sanctions on any European country that continues hostilities against Russia.
In addition, any American or American agent, whether government employee or contractor, that likewise engages in such hostilities will be arrested and subject to military justice.
Unfortunately, I have as much confidence that this will happen as I do that 100 MAGA senators will be elected over the next three cycles.
Peace will be on Russian terms ..not on Z…not on EU…not on anyone else….it cost Russia least 100,000 deaths..they are not hurry to end SMO …btw VVP call it now……WAR…
The scenario suggested, leaves an untenable siuation of NATO right on Russias border, which was the original Red line that was threatened and that provoked the Specisl Operation.
So, thats not a desirable outcome.
If Russia could take ALL of Ukraine, it would end the war between the governments of those two countries
BUT it definitely would NOT end the war ie secure a long lasting peace in that region.
Nor would it achieve the existentially important needs Russia gave for starting “The Special Military Operation” more than 3 YEARS ago.
Its tragically ironic that Righteous Pro Russia War Hawks viscerally despise other country’s War Hawks.
Fwiw, imo, both Orange Man and Vlad Man are Rad. And so is MbS.
Bessent fessed up, on the hidden motive behind the deal… get Trump leverage over Russia:https://sonar21.com/trumps-delusional-deal-with-ukraine-nuclear-talks-with-iran-back-on-the-agenda/
Noticing which verbs are used yields psywar useful info.
In this case, when referring to President Trumps guy, Bessant, noticing that the chosen verb is not only a pejorative implying the admission of sinful behavior but also a slang form of that verb?
Orange Man Bad. Orange Man’s Bessant Bad.
TDS delenda est.
I wouldn’t go anywhere Zelensky suggested
“I wouldn’t go anywhere Zelensky suggested”
I WOULD go anywhere I chose to go rather than making my decisions based on a pipsqueaks tweets.
In PDJT’s case, he OVERTLY teed Z up to make this particular suggestion so its encouraging to note that Z did what PDJT wanted.
Will PDJT show up or not?
Its too soon to know and its definitely too soon to know what will ultimately happen if does.
The only way to find out is to stay tuned in.
MAGA!
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Anything is possible.
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If President Trump…and President Putin
both made it there to meet-it would definitely
indicate a lot of pre planning was done by
both of them. 😀
Throwing the possibility out there it could also
be bait to entice Zelensky to show up. 🎣
At the same time President Putin made the
announcement/proposal to have negotiations
in Istanbul….he also stated a Russian delegation
was being formed to be sent to Istanbul for the
negotiations🤷♀️
Most people are under impression due to his
statements, he had no intention of attending.
Usually, it is only after a deal is finished, that
leaders show up to sign an agreement.
Who knows…we will just have to wait and see
what happens. 🤷♀️🤷♀️Interesting times!!
President Trumps Personal Envoy, Steve Witkoff, who has already had 4 lengthy meetings with Putin, recently had follow up meetings in Istanbul.
On his Truth account, President Trump has recently made positive public comments about “his dear friend” President Erdogan who’s hosting this Thursdays Istanbul and revealed that T & E have been having private chats.
Plus Witkoff is accompanying PDJT on his historic 3 day trip to Saudi Arabia, the UAE & Qatar; a trip to the ME that’s scheduled to end late Wednesday.
But will the trip to the ME end on Wednesday or will it be extended for one more day?
Will this trip be a ME remake of PDJTs famous 1st term scheduled G20 trip to Japan that turned into his iconic unscheduled trip to Koreas DMZ to see Rocket Man, Kim?
To find out. Stay tuned.
“I would fly there if I thought it would be helpful,”
That labored, high pitched wheezing sounds you’ve been hearing for the last few hours, are the collective hyperventilating of the three dingbats from Britain, France and Germany.
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The meltdowns are probably…Epic!
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Me—- good! 🤣🤣😁
😂🤪😝
LOL Thanks Caleb for my laugh of the evening. Have a wonderful evening.
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You mean the 3 cokeheads?
May not be as much fun as a NATO coke freakoff party but Trump might stop WWIII.
If so, I hope that he puts the coke sniffing, American tax payers’ wealth laundering, Orthodox Christian suppressing bag man in his place.
Mr. Z. has distant relatives in the Chicago region.
Such a meeting would be quite the feather in the cap of Turkey’s current leader Erdogan.
To pull off the image of peacemaker host, while the white tissue sniffing EU’rs grovel would also be quite the statement, as Turkey is still a NATO member, change the game from a euro-center of gravity to one in the middle east would also send signals of unknown consequences.
Turkey has, and still is, supplying a large amount of arms to Ukraine. Erdogan is a slippery duplicitous character.
Yes he is; plus his dreams of being the next head of a new Ottoman Empire doesn’t help and always is a surprise Turkey remains in NATO, but these are the cards that President Trump has to work with. And we do know he still has that magic wand!
Turkey gets a lot of benefit from being in NATO. I’m more surprised that they don’t seem to want to join the EU as well.
“Erdogan is a slippery duplicitous character”.
Yep. He’s not on anyone’s team but his own and his country. Plus he definitely is pragmatic,wily and realpolitik savvy
Which makes Erdogan, imo, such a potentially useful partner when PDJT wants to pull off a special op like this one.
My personal take on this sudden Putin – Zelenskyy meeting is highly wary: One of these guys, if not both, probably has a stiletto up his sleeve, figuratively speaking. If Trump shows up and anything goes haywire, Trump will definitely get all of the blame. And that will neuter any further efforts on Trump’s part. Then the war will go on and on, which is just the neo-cons want.
Don’t do it.
My bet would be on both. Thus far both have not shown any true signs of wanting to stop; it’s been nothing but non-stop maneuvering to get everything wanted, no compromise, and lot of finger pointing. This leads me to believe we are not dealing with any rational actors, likely completely corrupted ones.
No, No, No!… – NOPE!!…
…- This is the *Absolute* worst thing PDJT could do, right now, *At This Point*… – Either if he’s serious about peace and/or else serious about extricating the USA from this spooky-kabuki, freakin’ hot mess…
…- Either the USA is a *Direct Party* to this conflict, in which case F*-Off Zman, and Presidents Trump and Putin sit down together and break bread and get this sh*tshow sorted *Once And For All*, or else Ukraine is the (presumed) *Direct Party* to the conflict (albeit somebody’s proxy, in the non-pretending view), in which case let Putin sit down with Zman and work his inimitable magic on him: – Sweat that miserable little midget cokehead bastard a while, and see what shakes lose re: concessions/surrender terms and just from whom and where his marching orders truly originate…
…- In the latter case PDJT would only be in the way and a *Manipulatable* distraction (see, eg: Yesterday’s Starmer/Macron/Merz IC-inspired conference call with Trump…)
“…*Manipulatable* distraction…”
…- Also, eg: the Vatican 2-chairs photo-op setup…
Disagree if he’s there it’s much more difficult for Zelensky or Putin to manipulate the situation
Also look at how the euro nonsense looks now that Trump immediately said drop this stuff take the meeting
…- I’m not principally referring to manipulation from Putin, here… – I trust and *Expect* he will attempt to, both for his own prestige and advantage as well as for his country’s…
…- Please go re-read my initial comment: – Conventional rules of diplomacy dictates that if the present war is USA vs Russia, then Zman can F*ck right off out of there – presence *Not Required*. If, on the other hand, the present war is (principally) Ukraine vs Russia then President Trump’s presence is not only *Not* required but would, in fact, make matters worse, by implication, if he insisted on showing up…
…- Please *Also* re-read the final parenthetical in my initial comment, as well as the addendum comment which you replied to, above: – *IC Is In Control* here, and most all of the manipulation will come from them…
…- So, in the latter case, per my original comment, were President Trump to attend then you can bet your sweet ass that Zman will be given marching orders to play ‘pigeon on a chessboard’ every which-way with the ultimate aim of western-IC (Zman’s handlers) stuffing a big-ol’ custard pie right in PDJT’s face (Not to mention Putin’s, presumably)…
…- Do you want innocent kids to stop dying, *Yesterday*, or what?… – Do you want shot of this entire mess, *Yesterday*, or what?…
…- Yay or Nay?
TLDR: – Frank, I’ll cut to the chase of your initial reply to me, here: – Putin will manipulate away, anyways, for both his own and Russia’s advantage and prestige, *Regardless* of who attends…
…- My main point, however: – If PDJT attends this, he will *Necessarily* invite manipulation from western-IC (Zman’s handlers), with all that goes with that, and this whole sh*tshow will get drawn out and protracted into the hereafter… – *Plus*, if this is (as the official narrative goes) a *Strictly* Ukie/Ruskie affair then, diplomatically speaking, PDJT has *Literally No Business* even being there.
Midget Z invited him, so he does have business there.
Midget Z’s an animatronic IC remote-controlled mannequin…
…- *Next*!…
Obviously. But be that as it may, President Trump sounds like he is going, and I like it.
BINGO!!!
And kudos for pushing back against aggressive status quo bros.
Russias valid security concerns are resolved, or they are not.
That’s the only way that there will be a lasting peace.
Recognizing then resolving both Russia’s AND Ukraines “valid security concerns” is “the only way there will be lasting peace”
The cost of hard hearted hubris == death & destruction aka BLOODBATHS
To bathe or not to bathe, that is the question.
Russia was offered Crimea (and the port of Sevastopol is a very important piece of land strategically, Donbas and Luhansk are not that strategically important); it was granted that Ukraine would not have a nuclear arsenal and would not be in NATO; it was offered a release from the sanctions; I think we even granted them that no EU troops would be in Ukraine and definitely no American ones.
Yet they are still complaining that they have ‘security concerns’ — what more do they want? Everything? These are negotiations, not we fulfill Russia’s wish book list; they are going to have to compromise or keep fighting, probably with more sanctions on them.
Same goes for Ukraine. They won’t get NATO; they won’t get nukes; and they won’t get Donetsk, Luhansk, and Crimea back. They MIGHT be able to keep hold of Kherson or half of it, maybe; if they get a peace agreement now. These are negotiations, not Ukrainian wish book list.
And the same could be said for the EU — they are on very thin ice and don’t appear to understand what danger they could be in; yet they are interjecting themselves so they get all their wish book list of demands.
I’ll throw China in as well; they’ve likely got an agenda there as well and of course want it all fulfilled.
None of them care how many people they destroy in the process. I hope God judges them all accordingly.
That’s an interesting take and one I hadn’t considered. 🤔. My less than esteemed opinion is that NATO/EU stand in the way of any acceptable outcome as you suggest. That would be ideal, but the suicidal europeons have other ideas that the best of our intentions are hard pressed to overcome. Trump and the US tell Putin one thing, but Europe’s actions are entirely the opposite. Short of casting our lot entirely with Russia, there’s no peace to be gained. And if we did, the left/globalists would draw maximum pounds of flesh. But maybe that’s the route to take after all 🧐🤷♂️
We need to unite with Russia.
Topple the Crown
Free the World
Yep!…
– It’d *Seriously* be great if President Trump, and team, just cut to the chase and quit faffing around with all these ludicrous sideshow distractions…
A lot of moves require elevating public understanding.
That is difficult to do in part because of the long time programming of the public mind, and the active programmers that must be contended with.
The City has mental programmers creating great defensive depth; however, they are mostly ridiculous and their narratives are as stale and overextended as are The City’s ledgers.
I am praying our Champion will capitalize on those weaknesses.
💀 🙏 💀
I am encouraged by how quickly President Trump discredited/destroyed the “Unprovoked Russia” narrative.
A couple of seemingly “off hand” (but actually intentional and calculated!) comments, like “you don’t start a war with a neighbor 10 times your size” and *poof* the narrative disappears like a fart in a hurricane.
All roads lead to City of London, but all battlefields ultimately lead to the “Court of Public Opinion” and thankfully, PDJT well understands this.
…- Your ‘less than esteemed opinion’ is *Entirely* on point, in my view, CC… – Although where you say NATO/EU (I’m stealing ‘europeons’, btw… 😉 ) I’d also add the CIA/Blob into the mix, on your end of the pond…
…- To my original comment, there are, IC/Blob shenanigans aside, essentially two questions here:
1) What, *Exactly*, does the US/PDJT/MAGA wish to achieve, here: – Peace, GTFO?… – *Or Both* (If you can achieve that)?… (Personally I’d like to see you guys do both… – To save lives, to derail the gravy train, and to give a right-royal middle finger to alla the evil cockroaches that dreamed up and instigated this sorry caper in the first place…)
2) What, *Exactly*, is President Trump(ie: USA)’s place at the table here, diplomaticaly speaking (particularly with respext to point #1)?… – Principle belligerent party, Co-belligerent party, Proxy puppeteer (admitting to which entails opening up a whole can of worms, even tho’ *Faxx*…), or… – *Something Else*?…
…- ‘Mediator’?… – Would be a *Wild* stretch, at this point, given the facts on the ground… – Arbiter (as in: – ‘Arbitration’)?… – In which case President Trump should be having *Private* meetings with *Either* Putin *Alone*, *Or* Zman *Alone*, until the very final sesh’
…- If none of the above then like I said, PDJT oughta steer *Well Clear* of (what increasingly appears to be) this pantomime…
(TLDR: – If it were me, I *Fully* agree with Maquis, up above… 😉 )
I agree, though I would be lying if I say that I’m not enjoying the synchronized conniption fits, when PDJT said that he might show up.
According to the standards of “International law” and as woMansplained by Macron in the Oval office presser, IF at the conclusion of hostilitues the concensus of “the Intrnatiinal community” is that Russia was the unprovoked aggressor, than the countries holding Frozen Russian assets (EU, US and Ukes) can keep those frozen funds and use them for reparations.
Now, both Presidents Trump and Putin know that that narrative is false, and that actually itt was the US that instigated the whole thing.
One part of President Trumps goal, is to discredit the “unprovoked Russian aggression” narrative, so that Russia (quite fairly!) has their assets returned, but without actually admitting it is the U.S. thats responsible.
I like the cut of your jib, Sarge!
Unnerved passengers on President Ts roller coaster ride posting their reeeEEEEactions are so endearing that I feel like The Grinch when his teeny, tiny heart starts growing.
So to those who panic fret and post when Trumps being Trump, here’s some emoji 🙏🙏🙏 prayers and 😘😘😘 kisses.
I could be wrong but I am thinking Putin is not going to be in Turkey personally.
Therefore there is no reason for Trump to be there either.
Therefore the likelihood is high for Trump to be trolling for attention again.
Russia offered resumption of negotiations with Ukraine starting at Istanbul agreement,
they did not offer a personal “meet and greet” with Putin.
Normally in diplomatic negotiations the top level only meets and only when the details have been ironed out.. only then the top brass signs the documents.
Even if Z wanted to there is a Ukranian decree/law that prevents him from talking to Putin 😮 No joke there.
Barring all of that, I would seriously be worried about assasination attempt from Zelensky on Putin
Maybe some kind of poison handshake or one of those cyanide poison cloud hollow teeth 😀
Or some plutonium laced Ukrainian Sushi dish.
I’m not sure where the idea that Putin and Zelenskyy are planning to meet is coming from. You are absolutely correct that diplomacy doesn’t work that way.
How is it that Z and Fauci are still walking the face of the Earth…
Seeking whom they may devour ?
Dem Mark Halperin certainly has been whispered to–he thinks something big on “diplomacy” is in the wind.
https://x.com/2waytvapp/status/1921944012744712369
Predicting “something big” around the corner with President Trump in office is becoming like predicting that the sun will rise in the east and set in the west.
https://x.com/2waytvapp/status/1921944012744712369
One thing for sure, that won’t be deniable by anyone, is – if Putin does not show up in Turkey on Thursday to meet with Zelensky – there will be no denying that the neocons are right, that Russia intends to take all of Ukraine, and maybe then some more. Ball really is in Putin’s court.
For the first time in my sheltered life, I’d be okay if Russia annexed Ukraine. I’m no fan of Putin, even less one of Zelenskyy, but the Russian boogeyman of my youth desperately needs retiring. I was taught Russia was the equivalent of the antichrist in my youth in the 1970s and 1980s. It’s an old, tired trope.
Ukraine is historically Russian territory. And after the U.S. instigated war of the last three plus years, I agree. Let him have it all. It will get rid of Midget Z and his nazis and eventually make Ukraine a less desirable field of battle for the western IC.
good one …thank you R Iacoveo..
Which then, since what we now call Ukraine becomes Russia, would mean NATO on Russias border, which has always been Russias Red Line.
Yes but those nato states will have seen what happened to ukraine and will hopefully be less inclined to accept/allow the machinations of foreign intelligence agencies.
I will take a stab at denying it 🙂
Putin being there is a contrived premise that is only put on by Zelensky to make a media spectacle of it.
Putin never said he would be there personally, just that Russia would start direct negotiations from Instanbul agreement in Istanbul. Start where they left off.
In fact its very uncommon in diplomatic relations – I would say – for top leaders to meet before the signing of official agreements.
It could happen, but its not common at all.
There’s no causal effect between “Putin being there” or not, and “what Neocons are saying is true” (though I got to admit everything the Neocons have been saying is right so far, for instance that Russia ran out of weapons and its nothing but a gas station masquerading as a country and the are fighting with shovels… That and more has all been proven factual)
Its like saying grass is green, my fence is green therefore my fence is grass. It’s disparate facts with no connection.
My personal prediction of what you can expect Thursday is a Russian delegation to be there in seriousness (Lavrov and perhaps some other high ranking people), and Zelensky making a media spectacle.
These negotiations could take weeks or months if they are serious negotiations.
Agree!
Zelensky would show up only for PR purposes.
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Also true; and would expect nothing else as far as Zelensky pulling a PR stunt in Turkey just like he did at the White House.
Turkey’s an odd thing, as even though in NATO, is also a partner with Russia in its dealings in the middle east.
Readers here at the Treehouse have learned to see through the pretending and the games, but the majority of people in the west believe what their governments and more importantly what their televisions and smart devices tell them to believe – so giving the neocons one single inch to push their Russia is diabolical evil and out to rule all the nations in the west – gives room for the politicians here at home to force President Trump into a war no one but the swamp wants.
I’m praying for Heavenly Intervention to show these world leaders a better way than war.
If Putin goes to Turkey, it will be to talk to Erdogan, re: Syria. Z is small potatoes to him. If/when he speaks to Z, it will be a strong message to stop this crap. He’s already lost his country, as President Trump told him in the Oval, “You have no cards to play!”
If he goes, Trump should bring Mike Tyson with him to give both d Zelensky and Putin an attitude adjustment if needed.
Constantinople
The Greek Genocide Resource Center website is worth reading.
http://www.greek-genocide.net
Sepp, in taking a quick glance, it appears that Greek Orthodox received a similar treatment that Armenians endured?
Yes.
Totally Trumpian. Zelenskyy ambushed him at the G8 and the Pope’s funeral. Trump absolutely crashes that party. In a brand new airplane.
@sundance I like it that 47 will do something like that and make a detour. You can bet on that. Also, another bet is that the DemonRats, RINOS, and Left Wing media will say Russia collusion and that Trump is a Russian asset and that Putin and Trump planned to bully and gang up on poor Zelensky in Turkiye without the UK, France, or Germany present. SMH.
“….Which is part of the reason the detour is entirely plausible.”
Detour Sundance? Somehow I suspect our VSG Trump had this in mind all along when he scheduled his mid-East trip.
An intended destination concealed in the expressed itinerary could fairly be called a detour when it manifests.
It sure would be fun, wouldn’t it?
I’m clearing my calendar to watch!
Was the gift of an airplane, a part of the ruse, with SEVRRAL planes, to act as decoys?
Good morning Dutchman. I did not think of this, but it is a brilliant observation, in my humble opinion! Thanks for getting my grey matter working this morning. Have a blessed day.
Full transcript (and video) of Putin’s press statement May 11.
Press statement by the President of Russia • President of Russia
Just a small snippet from the press conference.
Colleagues, I think it is obvious to everyone that the talks and meetings held in Moscow also touched on the issue of resolving the conflict in Ukraine. We are grateful to all our guests, our friends, for the attention they are paying to this conflict and for the efforts they are making to bring this conflict to an end. In this connection, I believe it is necessary to dwell on this topic separately.
So, I want to say that, as it is known, Russia has proposed ceasefire initiatives on several occasions, but they, these initiatives, have been repeatedly sabotaged by Ukraine. For example, the Kiev regime defiantly violated about 130 times the 30-day – I want to make it a point – 30-day moratorium, from March 18 to April 17, on strikes against energy facilities, which was declared in accordance with our agreement with US President Donald Trump.
The Easter truce initiated by Russia was not observed either: the ceasefire regime was violated by Ukrainian forces almost 5,000 times. Nevertheless, for the celebration of Victory Day – and we consider this to be a sacred holiday for us as well, just imagine that we lost 27 million people – we declared a ceasefire for the third time on this holiday, which is sacred to us.
More at the link above.
I’d certainly approve, especially if he gives li’l Z a wedgie for his reprehensible behavior in our White House!
Would that be an Atomic-Wedgie, perchance?
Going Nuclear at a preliminary peace summit?
Edgy!
How about a wedgie AND and an old fashioned spanking for good measure!
This is what I voted for….
God Bless Potus Trump and all who are maga.
All eyes will be on Trump including God’s arms will protect his comings and his goings.
God Speed
The RF is appointing a team of negotiators… which is usually how this sort of thing is done. Presidents only sis up for the signing.
The RF is appointing a team of negotiators… which is usually how this sort of thing is done. Presidents only sis up for the signing.
Personally, I would do it by video conference . . .
Today was one of his best days…so much #WINNING!!!!!!
Convince Erdogan to let his #1 opponent out of prison while there. The mayor of Istanbul is rotting away. Lawfare.
Too exposed ME. UKR.
Looks like he went to Turkey.
Zalensky would be “odd man out” in a meeting between two alpha-males of Presidents Trump and Putin, he would look like a gardener or janitor who stumbled in the wrong door.
Gardeners and janitors have far more dignity than a clown, war criminal bag man, respectfully, Dutchman.
It will be pleasing when we will no longer see Volodomort paraded before us with solid gold tin cup in hand.
I absolutely LOVE how unpredictable he is, for lots of reasons, no doubt it keeps the IC in a panic
Looks like ANOTHER freak-out is on deck, too, cuz that sexy Queen of Qatar just landed in San Antonio…ENROUTE TO A BRAND NEW PAINT JOB…maybe it’s all about the paint…lol
https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/10/politics/air-force-one-color-scheme
https://www.businessinsider.com/trumps-boeing-757-private-jet-flying-again-new-paint-job-2022-10
https://www.axios.com/2018/07/12/donald-trump-new-air-force-one-paint-job
Hate to be buzz killingtom but Trump was accompanied by Anthony Ornato – the head of the secret service, later promoted to White House deputy chief of staff in 2019. But it was remarkable that he only had one guy guarding him not to mention the insanity of meeting Kim on his territory with only a days notice via a single tweet (now that part I find hard to believe, certainly they spoke on the phone right?).
I just ordered more Orville Redenbacher popcorn.
Putin knows he won’t get anywhere with that idiot Zelensky, because the idiot isn’t really in charge of anything. However, if President Putin invites Trump to the talks, then both Putin and Trump can put that little idiot in his place. It could be an opportunity for the two superpowers to build a better relationship and stem the globalists’ sick ambition for WWIII.