In the U.K and throughout Europe May 8th is known as “VE Day” designating Victory of Europe Day, commemorating May 8, 1945, marking the Allies’ acceptance of Germany’s unconditional surrender.
In Russia May 8th is known as “Victory Day” celebrating the defeat of the Nazi regime and honoring the 27 million Russians killed in World War II. By several magnitude Russia suffered the most casualties in the war, losing approximately 9 million military and 18 million civilians.
Today, President Trump signed a proclamation designating May 8th also as “Victory Day” [SEE HERE], recognizing that without the United States entering the war, the German Nazi regime would not have been defeated.
Russia and the USA using “Victory Day,” while Europe uses “VE Day.” Huh, maybe a message in there somewhere.
The announcement was made during the swearing-in ceremony for David Perdue as U.S. Ambassador to China. The media questions begin at 9:11 of the video below. WATCH:
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WHITE HOUSE – Today, our Nation proudly commemorates the 80th anniversary of the Allied Powers’ triumph over national socialism and fascism, and the end of World War II in Europe — one of the most epic victories for forces of freedom in the history of the world. On this Victory Day for World War II, we celebrate the unmatched might, strength, and power of the American Armed Forces, and we commit to protecting our sacred birthright of liberty against all threats, foreign and domestic.
In the wake of the December 7, 1941 attack on Pearl Harbor, the United States righteously entered the fray of what would become the apex of the eternal battle between good and evil. After nearly 4 years of the darkest and bloodiest chapters ever recorded in human history, more than 250,000 Americans lost their lives in the fight against the Nazi regime. Today and every day, we pay tribute to all those who made the ultimate sacrifice for their Nation, their liberty, and the survival of Western civilization. Without the sacrifice of our American soldiers, this war would not have been won, and our world today would look drastically different.
May 8, 1945 marks the Allies’ acceptance of Germany’s unconditional surrender — the beginning of the end of years of long, gruesome, and brutal warfare. The millions of souls senselessly lost serve as a reminder of why we must pursue peace through strength. I remain steadfastly devoted to stopping the years of endless foreign wars and preventing the further loss of lives. As I stated during my Inaugural Address, we will measure our success not only by the battles we win but also by the wars we end — and my proudest legacy will be that of a peacemaker.
As we commemorate Victory Day for World War II, we offer our unending thanks to every patriot from the Greatest Generation who left behind his home and family to fight for our freedom in distant lands. We honor the memories of all those who perished. Above all, we renew our commitment to keeping America and the entire world safe, secure, prosperous, and free.
NOW, THEREFORE, I, DONALD J. TRUMP, President of the United States of America, by virtue of the authority vested in me by the Constitution and the laws of the United States, do hereby proclaim May 8, 2025, as a day in celebration of Victory Day for World War II.
IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand this seventh day of May, in the year of our Lord two thousand twenty‑five, and of the Independence of the United States of America the two hundred and forty-ninth. (read more)
Retired Magistrate here: The last war where the United States actually had a victory.
Don’t forget Grenada.
That wasn’t a war Duke, like Vietnam it was a military operation.
What about Panama – what was the problem exactly, did Manuel Noriega not want the PRC to run the Panama Canal ports at both ends and so George H. W. had to go get him out of there?
I think that was a state sponsored narco-trafficking market correction.
Correct 🖖🏻
Your statement, David, definitely has merit to research.
“market correction” – Nice. 😉
My ex-pat friends down there say some structures still have bullet holes….
Go back a bit to Torrijos’ plane crashing into a hill…
Panama was all “Wag the Dog”, basically Noriega was a CIA (Cocaine Import Agency) asset that they couldn’t control anymore requiring a change of regime . I was there for that dance.
The Bush cartel are the biggest and bestest dog waggers.
The Bush Cartel did nothing for the good of US; they only followed the steps to the NWO/Communism and using China for their goals to come to fruition.
True enemies from within are the destructive force in every nation.
Yes but we won the Grenada Military Operation.
ALL battles after WWll were a product of the CIA , UN, and NATO; manmade wars for a reason unrelated to the destruction of terrifying forces…….. commence, money laundering, money making, power making, interfering nefarious take overs………..who can win those types of battles????
Unfortunately, that victory only belonged to the bolsheviks that have ruined each western nation after the defeat of Germany. General Patton was right when he said, “we fought the wrong enemy”. He knew who the good guys were in that war and it wasn’t us.
We weren’t the good guys in that war? Please elaborate.
And actually voted on and approved by the US Congress!
Rich housewife here. We know.
Is any war ever really won, or does it just lead, inevitably to a period of “peace” before it starts up, again.?
As PDJT just said while signing an EO in the Oval about remembering WW2
while that phase of that war ended
that war was part of the eternal war between good and evil.
In other words, now its our turn. 😘
The end of every war contains the seeds of the next war.
satan never sleeps, takes a day off or ‘vacations’ …
My ancient Uncle Buddy fell and pulled over a chair making quite a racket.
His daughter ran in asking, “Is everything okay? Is everything okay?”
Uncle Buddy pulled himself up and replied indignantly,
“Sweetheart, the last time everything was okay was August 15th, 1945.”
My father was at Pearl, Guadalcanal, ETO, in the OSS; his major message to his children was ‘don’t fear Russia, they will be our ally because they are like us. Their soldiers are the best in the world.’ This was when they had us getting under our desks, building bomb shelters, and waiting for ‘the bomb’…….
He also said PaPa Bush was evil, the CIA and the FBI were constructed for evil to reign.
All my research has proved him right so far.
A day to honor WWll history and it’s vets has been long in the making and I’m so proud to have it finally happen.
Wow what a reversal considering the last president Chicom Joe was a Chinese sympathizer, operative.
And would have created some ridiculous acronym standing for whatever absurdity was freshest in their minds.
That reminds me of what Rush used to say of the young college liberals.
“I’m for the current thing.”
Good for him! Thank you President Trump! (And yes Sundance, there surely is a message in the “Victory Day” choice). President Trump promised something really big, with an announcement coming Friday, Saturday or Monday. Perhaps a hint here?
according to politico, the announcement has to do with prescription drug prices
SD postulated this yesterday and apparently the grand prognosticator is correct once again!
I think that’s great. With all the losers bitching about how much they hate America in recent years, we need another holiday that celebrates our great nation. It’s well past time for the losers to pack-up and roll out. Go live in the EU. Go live in China. Go live at the bottom of the sea, for all I care.
Not the bottom of the sea. We want to keep it clean, and not pollute it!
About time!
I’m proud of of my families service during WWII. My father, one of his brothers, three of my mother’s uncles, heck even my mother and her oldest sister served. Both of those ladies were great mechanics, both were from England at the time, and during the blitz working as ambulance drivers and mechanics.
(My grandpa was from Cornwall who was also an amazing mechanic).
Each one would tell us the same thing when asked why they served. “Because we were needed”.
Here’s to Victory Day!
Queen Elizabeth also served as a trained mechanic during WW II, your aunts may have been in her orbit – before she was queen.
This is good.
With most World War II veterans now having passed, the nation is entering a phase where the war exists almost entirely in collective memory, not living memory. As the transition occurs, we have needed a push to codify the memory of WWII in American civic culture now that the living participants are largely gone. It’s both a tribute and a strategic act of historical preservation.
JoeS: I spent much of my indoor childhoold watching “Combat!” and “Rat Patrol” (and later, “Hogan’s Heroes.”) I spent much of my outdoor childhood fighting imaginary battles in North Africa, Europe and the Pacific Islands. My dad’s Korean War army helmet, complete with liner, was a great prop. A caulking gun made a great stand-in for a grease gun.
Our Dad would coach us on how to swim across the pool without making a ripple – we were frogmen in the US Navy
(he was a CPO/radio operator on an ocean-going tug in the South Pacific, his brother was a firefighter on a destroyer in the Pacific; they were both in Buckner Bay, Okinawa when the typhoon hit in October 1945; their dad trained pilots in England and also flew planes for the Ferry Command)
suejeanne: I didn’t live close enough to water to conduct naval operations 🙂
What a coincidence. My dad was radioman on an attack transport in the pacific. His ship sustained the last casualties of the war when they were kamikazied in Buckner Bay. I think it was on August 8, 1945. 21 crew and officers were killed.
My Dad was a firefighter on the carrier USS Essex in the Pacific in WW2.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Essex_(CV-9)
Memories.
My dad was an immigrant from Germany after WWII (1950).
I watched Hogans Hero because he looked and sounded just like Colonel Klink. The interesting part is that my father and Werner Klemperer were both from Cologne, Germany.
I was really sad as a kid when I found out that Bib Crane was killed so savagely.
Was his killer ever found?
Yes, charged in the 90’s but acquitted cause the “glove didn’t fit” no sample of the brain tissue found in this guys car left to do DNA testing on after trial (probably could not retry him anyway) & he was either near death or dead at the time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Henry_Carpenter
There is a very large collection of WWII newsreels and movies that can serve as a visual supplement to written & published news and history books and documents.
Hopefully someone and/ or group has taken steps to preserve all of that in the WWII Museum.
https://www.nationalww2museum.org/
Loads of stuff on WWII have been uploaded @
https://archive.org/
I should probably upload a up in my tree relative that after being found in a POW grave-site was relocated to his TN home for reburial, I do have it uploaded to UTool which they tagged with copyrighted music by a live civil war band tune, was not restricted last I knew.
Didn’t really know about archive site until rather recently & had to split the video due to U’s limits, no such issue with Archive.Org
Wow. I put “WWII” in the search block (Wayback Machine) and that found tens of thousands of hits under various subcategories….. looks like it’d take years of research to see it all…..
Good URL to bookmark.
Thanks MMW
Lee Harris, Civilization And Its Enemies.
I have a copy of the Lee Harris book to which you refer; I’m going to pull it off the shelf and reacquaint myself with it.
Thank you for the prompt.
Sundance, in the Soviet Union and the Eastern European satellite countries Victory Day was celebrated on May 9. I think it is the same with today’s Russia.
This is because in western Russia it was already May 9 by the time General Keitel signed the instrument of surrender in Reims, France …. about 11 p.m., May 8, 1945.
Colonel General Alfred Jodl signed the capitulation papers of unconditional surrender in Reims, France on May 7, 1945, and Field-Marshal Wilhelm Keitel signed the unconditional surrender document in Berlin, Nazi – Germany on May 8, 1945.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Instrument_of_Surrender
https://www.museum-karlshorst.de/english-the-german-surrender-in-may-1945/
My grandpa was a Bataan Death March survivor, so we say a prayer of gratitude on Victory over Japan (VJ) Day, Sept 2nd.
I read yesterday that Trump plans to rename Veteran’s Day in Nov to celebrate win of WWI and name May 8th to celebrate WWII, but WWII only ended in Atlantic Theater on that Day. We can’t forget about the Pacific Theater as we remember the Atlantic.
CaliGirl: Armistice Day was always meaningful to commemorate the end of WWI, on the 11th day, of the 11th month, at the 11th hour. Then, all the WWI vets passed, and we got Veterans Day, which is certainly important, and deserves recognition, but is not the same as Armistice Day.
Veteran’s Day is on Nov 11th, per an earlier renaming of Armistice Day. Trump plans to rename it a 2nd time to solidify its connection to the end of WWI. I agree with you there.
My hope is that in his plans to rename May 8th, that the younger generation doesn’t forget the brave people who fought in the Pacific Theater who were in POW camps thru September.
Whatever happened to “Decoration Day”?
Decoration Day was the original name for what we now call Memorial Day, which was originally on May 30th, but is now celebrated on the last Monday in May. It was started after the Civil War to commemorate those who had died and was a day to honor them, and to “Decorate” their graves, hence the name. Veteran’s Day in November is to honor ALL who have served – Memorial Day is specifically set aside for those who have given their lives in service.
“The first national observance of Decoration Day took place on May 30, 1868, where 5,000 participants decorated the graves of 20,000 Union and Confederate soldiers at Arlington National Cemetery, with a speech by then-Congressman James Garfield. Over the years, the observance of Decoration Day expanded beyond the Civil War dead to include all American military personnel who died in service. By the late 19th century, many Americans began using the term Memorial Day, and the name became more common after World War I.” (US Memorial Day.org)
As an aside, my birthday is May30th and when I was young, my parents would take me to the annual Memorial Day parade and my dad would tell me they were all celebrating me! As a 3/4 year old, I thought that was pretty neat!
Vikingmom: I marched in Memorial Day parades as a Cub Scout, back in the 60s. The 1960s, not the 1860s. I was too young for the Revolutionary War and barely remember any of it, except for the bad men with the red coats.
If you were in the Seattle area, I was probably watching those parades and thinking it was all for me! 😂😂😂
Vikingmom, the date of your birthday is the same as the day the English and their French lackeys murdered female officer and veteran Joan of Arc in the public square of Rouen.
Likely before you were born (if that 1971 or later), Memorial Day was May 30, a fixed holiday. We kids at our parish grade school thought it was great and appropriate our leaders decided to honor our dead the same day God the Father took Joan of Arc into Heaven.
No, I was born prior to the date being changed to the last Monday in May, which happened in 1968, hence the reason there were no more parades for my birthday! 😉
Memorial Day was not celebrated on May 30th from 1971 through 1976.
1977, 1983, 1988, 1994, 2005, 2011, 2016, 2022 were years where Memorial Day fell on May 30th. The next May 30th on a Monday is in eight years.
Mark Steyn: The Loss of Proportion – Memorial Day, 2004
“Memorial Day in my corner of New Hampshire is always the same. A clutch of veterans from the Second World War to the Gulf march round the common, followed by the town band, and the scouts, and the fifth-graders. The band plays “Anchors Aweigh,” “My Country, ‘Tis of Thee,” “God Bless America” and, in an alarming nod to modernity, Ray Stevens’ “Everything Is Beautiful (In Its Own Way)” (Billboard No. 1, May 1970). One of the town’s selectmen gives a short speech, so do a couple of representatives from state organizations, and then the fifth-graders recite the Gettsyburg Address and the Great War’s great poetry. There’s a brief prayer and a three-gun salute, exciting the dogs and babies. Wreaths are laid. And then the crowd wends slowly up the hill to the Legion hut for ice cream, and a few veterans wonder, as they always do, if anybody understands what they did, and why they did it.
Before the First World War, it was called Decoration Day – a day for going to the cemetery and “strewing with flowers or otherwise decorating the graves of comrades who died in defense of their country during the late rebellion.” Some decorated the resting places of fallen family members; others adopted for a day the graves of those who died too young to leave any descendants.
I wish we still did that. Lincoln’s “mystic chords of memory” are difficult to hear in the din of the modern world, and one of the best ways to do it is to stand before an old headstone, read the name, and wonder at the young life compressed into those brute dates: 1840-1862. 1843-1864.
In my local cemetery, there’s a monument over three graves, forebears of my hardworking assistant, though I didn’t know that the time I first came across them. Turner Grant, his cousin John Gilbert and his sister’s fiance Charles Lovejoy had been friends since boyhood and all three enlisted on the same day. Charles died on March 5, 1863, Turner on March 6, and John on March 11. Nothing splendid or heroic. They were tentmates in Virginia, and there was an outbreak of measles in the camp.
For some reason, there was a bureaucratic mixup and the army neglected to inform the families. Then, on their final journey home, the bodies were taken off the train at the wrong town. It was a Saturday afternoon and the stationmaster didn’t want the caskets sitting there all weekend. So a man who knew where the Grants lived offered to take them up to the next town and drop them off on Sunday morning.
When he arrived, the family was at church, so he unloaded the coffins from his buggy and left without a word or a note to anyone. Imagine coming home from Sunday worship and finding three caskets waiting on the porch. Imagine being young Caroline Grant, and those caskets contain the bodies of your brother, your cousin and the man to whom you’re betrothed.
That’s a hell of a story behind the bald dates on three tombstones.”…….
What an amazing story! Thank you for sharing that!
My grandmother’s family, Daughters of the American Revolution, like many families in the Central Valley/ Midwest region, had loved ones fighting for both the North and the South during the Civil War. My grandmother told me the story of two sisters, whom I believe would have been her aunts, who both lost their sons within a week of each other in 1863. One was fighting for the Yankees and the other for the Confederacy but both sisters experienced the loss of a child…
We truly have no idea!
The last Monday in May was selected because by that date flowers would be in bloom in every part of the country, so they could be used to decorate the graves.
https://www.thoughtco.com/memorial-day-history-3525153
https://armyhistory.org/general-john-a-logan-memorial-day-founder/
https://www.thoughtco.com/memorial-day-history-3525153
Yes. Absolutely. No one won WWI On the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month arms were laid down and it was over. All of those young lives gone. All those young men returning home with shell shock – whaat we have tidied up to be called PTSD. My shell-shocked Uncle Bob was a runner, carrying messages back and forth between the trenches. So dangerous. One night he listened all night as many of his buddies had been caught by a barrage in No Man’s Land. No one dared try to rescue them. One by one, tjhey died. They haunted my Uncle Bob until he died.
My grandfather, whom I never knew, was a young man in those trenches in France in 1917 and 18. From stories I heard from my mother, he was a very quiet man and a very kind man but he didn’t talk much. I have seen pictures of him and so desperately wish I could ask him what happened in those dark days….
11/11 wasn’t actually the end of WWI. The US Army was part of coalitions fighting in Russia out of Archangel (Archangelsk) and Vladivostok. Their war didn’t end until they were withdrawn the following June.
My father’s cousin, Donovan, left LSU and joined the US Army Air Corp and was stationed in Bataan. He survived the Death March, the Japanese Navy ship voyage to his coal mine and slave labor in Japan and came home three 3 1/2 years later 90 lbs lighter and wrote his book, I Came Back From Bataan, a very good read.. Donovan gave’em hell the entire time.
Thanks for your Service and RIP, Donovan. And thanks to your grandpa for his Service, CalGirl.
Thank you both!
My favorite Bataan account so far is “When Men Must Live” by Kenneth and James Murphy. It is a purposeful misquote of US Secretary of War Mr. Stimson’s statement when giving the order to withdraw from the island, “there are times when men must die.”
https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/when-men-must-live-kenneth-b-murphy/1120141675#
Right, WWII was still raging in the Pacific when victory was declared i Europe. One cousin was part of the Navy’s landings in the Pacific. From Luzon and Leyte up through all the Japanese islands. Their next stop was the Japanese mainland when they redefined the news that the Bombs had been dropped and they were going home. We should not tinker with the history of those who gave so much. Dilution rather than patriotism.
Correction: Japanese-occupied islands
The Veteran’s Day we have now celebrates all of our veterans regardless of when they served. Memorial Day celebrates all of our military personnel who died in service. Both are just right in my view. The VA estimates we still have around 66,000 WW2 vets still living and I think VE and VJ days should be left alone just as their generation made them. President Trump and his people have a lot on their plates and I don’t think all this renaming is nearly as important as most of what else they have before them to do.
Congrats to your Grandfathers service…
To survive that march despite the brutality of the Japanese soldiers was an incredible feat…
VE day sounds conceited, about right for the me my and I socialists
It stood for Fitory in Europe. Everyone in Eu4ope knew who brought that victory about. They also did not want the Russians to liberate them. Prayed that it would be the Americans.
Corruption: Victory in Europe.
I tried to edit out mispselling of “Correction” but could not get edit button to open
If you wait too long – edit won’t work! Its so one cannot come back the next day and back-edit something one might have written previously …
I luv our “Liberators,… not Conquers” Military Parades in our Nation’s capitol!
Make’em roll down Penn Ave on 5/8/25, Commander-N-Chief! And tell the whining Marxist Dims, “Peace Through Strength, rolling down our streets!”
The commie dems who LOVE the war in Ukraine (which gets weapons from the USA) are going to have to pivot and scream at the sky when they see weapons proudly displayed and paraded on the streets of DC.
They love US weapons in Ukraine for war which are actually killing people.
They hate US weapons on display in the US even when they aren’t killing anyone.
Thanks President Trump.
Interesting….
First the bioweapon lab funding ban in foreign countries.
President Putin has long known and spoken of these labs in Ukraine, a clear and existential danger on Russia’s doorstep and for humanity. Common cause acknowledged.
Now this Victory Day announcement in tandem with commemorations in Russia.
Oh yes…I’d say we are seeing emerging fruits from the Witkoff/Russian counterpart discussions.
With this recent declaration, I’d call it the firm hand of respect and remembrance, which is a very good thing…
And prayerfully an encouraging sign that two like minds are trusting one another one small step at a time.
Bless-ed are the peacemakers…
Hmmm, BJ,…. is Trump’s pending Big Announcement the End of the Ukraine War???
I doubt it very much, my friend, much as we would all rejoice with such an announcement.
So many loose and frayed threads…and an obstreperous, manipulative actor tearing out each stitch of progress as soon as it is woven.
B.J.,
See the whole board. Everyone was focused on Witkoff and Rubios meetings with President Putin and his advisors, but they were not shuttling back and forth, from Russia to DC.
They were shuttling between Russia, SA (Tehran) and DC, and recall PDJT wrote a hand written letter to the Ayotohhlla.
Any agreement for Iran to give up its highly enriched Uranium, is going to involve RUSSIA agreeing to take the uranium.
Witkoff did NOT spend 4 hrs, several times, talking to President Putin about Ukraine; it simply isn’t that complicated.
I am just guessing, butt my guess is an announcement of a deal with Iran, defusing one powderkeg, and sticking a thumb in one eye of the neocon warmongers.
As for Ukraine, having effectively destroyed the false narrative of Russia as “unprovoked” and the breaker if agreements, and showing the world it is Zman and his backers keeping it going, I suspect PDJT will give the appearance of washing his hands, and let Putin pound Zman into submission, all the while making it clear the U.S. will not be drawn in, and are available should Zman decide to negotiate…
I forgot to add, PDJT renaming the Persion Gulf, as Gulf of Arabia.
A nod to the Saudis,whose country President Trump honoured with his first foreign visit in 2017. And for their hosting the peace talks perhaps?
As for the announcement, Sundance uas suggest it might be pharmaceutical.
I’ve just stumbled upon this. It is on Politico, so adjust your expectations.
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/05/07/trump-sweeping-medicare-drug-price-plan-00334167
Here goes the hope of a “Trump’s Yalta. A ‘Big, Beautiful’ Plan” (point 5/).
https://teletype.in/@unaltnimeni/k49lchLoZtv
Exactly the opposite of the desirable path…
No, in Britain “VE Day” means “Victory IN Europe” day. There is also a VJ Day…..
I was just a child but I knew we had lead the Allies to victory in both the Pacific an Europe. My many older cousins were fighting all over the globe. VE Day and VJ Day have had special meaning for many Americans for decades. Leave them alone, Mr. President……
“Leave them alone, Mr President”.
Thankfully, all iterations of this demand will be:
Ignored.
Or noticed then lovingly trolled before the demand is ignored.
Thank God, ” Mr President ” is once again OG Dad, PDJT
❤ 2 U, LULU
President Trump Truth Social – May 5th, 2025
“We won two World Wars, but we never took credit for it — Everyone else does!
All over the World, the Allies are celebrating the Victory we had in World War II. The only Country that doesn’t celebrate is the United States of America, and the Victory was only accomplished because of us.
Without the United States, the War would have been won by other Countries, and what a different World it would be.
Therefore, I am hereby declaring a National Holiday in celebration of the Victories of World War I, where the Armistice was signed on November 11, 1918, and World War II, where the Victory date was May 8, 1945.
We will not be closing the Country for these two very important Holidays, November 11 and May 8, World War I and World War II, because we already have too many Holidays in America — There are not enough days left in the year. We were Workers then, and we are Workers now!
Documentation to follow.
MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!”
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/114457666559426766
Yep,… America’s Military and it’s domestic labor force/Industrial Might allowed the Allied Forces to out-supply Hitler’s Axis and Japan to Win WWII,… it’s an historical Fact, not often mentioned today.
Japanese Naval Admiral Yamamoto, who planned Japan’s Pearl Harbor sneak attack, knew this and predicted the out come with his (attributed) statement following his Pearl Harbor raid,…” I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve!”
Yamamoto had lived in the USA prior to WWII and knew of America’s industrial/labor/war machine potential. Japanese Prime Minister, General Tojo didn’t listen to his warnings. The rest is history,… never forget it.
But neith3r Yamamoto nor Tojo dreamed that America would end the war by fdtopping A-Bombs on Japan. That convinced the holdout: Emperor Hirohito.
Those who don’t know talk about awesome tactics and daring raids. Those who do know, talk about securing supply lines and logistics. It takes both, but we have won with overwhelming logistical and supply capability. This is coming from a guy who had nothing to do with the support end of the spear.
WWI was not a victory. It ended with an Armistice. And WWII was no tended on May 8. It ended in Septemcber when Japan surrendered after the bombs fell on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
Truth
After the Eurowienies prohibited any EU members (or aspirung members) leaders from attending President Putins celebration in Moscow, I hoped PDJT would do something, send Vance or Rubio, whatever to show solidarity with Russia, and against Eu .
This is symbolic, but it works.
It’s damn sad how we’ve been jacked around by CIA and the alphabets. They are savage imperialist oligarchs. They are using our Liberty and our money to enslave us.
“Ho Chi Minh had been working with the Allies during WWII in the fight against the Japanese fascists and had the support of the OSS. Ho Chi Minh assumed this alliance with the Americans would continue once the war was over, and that Vietnam could finally be free as a people from colonial subjugation, which included French colonialism.
“On September 2, 1945 Ho Chi Minh as president of the new nation signed Vietnam’s Declaration of Independence which was a direct reference to the American Declaration of Independence. As incredible as it may seem today, the Vietnamese declaration began with the famous lines “All men are created equal. They are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights, among them are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness….” The document went on to state “A people who have courageously opposed French domination for more than eighty years, a people who have fought side by side with the Allies against the Fascists during these last years – such a people must be free and independent.”
Read the whole thing:
https://cynthiachung.substack.com/p/sex-drugs-and-the-vatican-the-origin
“savage Imperialistic oligarchies”
In other words the ancien regimes Euro World Order aka the EUSSR
who keep trying to hide by using different names plus different puppets, stages, costumes and props.
Pre Trump era =/= Trump era
Pre Trump era, American agencies including the CIA == EUSSR’s proxy ie blood & treasure donor + scapegoat distraction
Trump era == our Declaration of Independence 2.o aka LIBERATION Day has been declared and our Second Revolutionary War 2.0 to be FREE of Euro Control is being waged
with the overt and covert help of allies both foreign and domestic.
Thank God.
Russia lost almost as many soldiers in its attack on Berlin as the USA lost against Germany and Japan, including civilians, in WWII.
Hitler backstabbed his WW2 ally, Russia, by ordering German troops to invade Russia which inspired Russia to switch sides and join forces with The Allies.
Russia is NOT protected from predatory neighbors by oceans.
America is.
Perhaps there are better ways to honor WW2’s dead than indulging in “corpse counting” arguments about who deserves the most credit for ending one phase
of what PDJT wisely pointed out is an eternal battle between good and evil?
The Soviets were not an ally of Germany. Stalin signed a non-aggression treaty with Hitler only after both France and England refused to ally with the Soviet Union against the Germans. Stalin wasn’t ready to fight Germany in ’39, nor in ’41.
Because they were awful at fighting. They simply had overwhelming numbers and weren’t afraid to give them away.
Russia lost more civilians than soldiers in the Stalin purges of 1936-1939…
One reason the Soviets lost so many men was that right before Germany launched its surprise attack on Russia, Stalin had done a massive political purge of the Soviet military. He executed most of the experienced officers and troops and replaced them with politically loyal but inexperienced hacks. After months of devastating losses he finally brought in Marshal Georgi Zhukov who had survived the purges because he was stationed out in the far east by Vladivostok. But the majority of the Soviet military was still barely trained, so they relied heavily on mass-wave attacks directly into German firepower. Stalin and the Soviets were more than willing to expend as many lives as needed to win.
Excellent Hard “NO” on reducing the 145% tariffs on the CCP.
Not so excellent “sad to see” Ed Martin not getting through judiciary committee to a full floor vote.
it is an unpopular opinion or view that Russia would have won witbout the US. that is because the US spent much blood in the war. but the MIC never met a war it didnt want in on. communists vs socialists. evil vs evil. and the USG always takes a side in conflicts of evil vs evil.
Russia would not have won without our winning the Battle of Britain.
“If the United States had not helped us, we would not have won the war… One-on-one against Hitler’s Germany, we would not have withstood its onslaught and would have lost the war. No one talks about this officially, and Stalin never, I think, left any written traces of his opinion, but I can say that he expressed this view several times in conversations with me.” – Nikita Khrushchev (from his memoirs in the official archives of Russia)
The US (and to a much lesser extent the UK) provided a huge share of the materiel needed for the USSR to fight WW2 by way of the Lend Lease program.
Under Lend-Lease, the United States provided more than one-third of all the explosives used by the Soviet Union during the war. The United States and the British Commonwealth provided 55 percent of all the aluminum the Soviet Union used during the war and more than 80 percent of the copper.
Lend-Lease also sent aviation fuel equivalent to 57 percent of what the Soviet Union itself produced. Much of the American fuel was added to lower-grade Soviet fuel to produce the high-octane fuel needed by modern military aircraft.
The Lend-Lease program also provided more than 35,000 radio sets and 32,000 motorcycles. When the war ended, almost 33 percent of all the Red Army’s vehicles had been provided through Lend-Lease. More than 20,000 Katyusha mobile multiple-rocket launchers were mounted on the chassis of American Studebaker trucks.
In addition, the Lend-Lease program propped up the Soviet railway system, which played a fundamental role in moving and supplying troops. The program sent nearly 2,000 locomotives and innumerable boxcars to the Soviet Union. In addition, almost half of all the rails used by the Soviet Union during the war came through Lend-Lease.
The Lend-Lease program also sent tons of factory equipment and machine tools to the Soviet Union, including more than 38,000 lathes and other metal-working tools. Such machines were of higher quality than analogues produced in the Soviet Union, which made a significant contribution to boosting Soviet industrial production.
American aid also provided 4.5 million tons of food, 1.5 million blankets, and 15 million pairs of boots.
“In order to really assess the significance of Lend-Lease for the Soviet victory, you only have to imagine how the Soviet Union would have had to fight if there had been no Lend-Lease aid,” Sokolov wrote. “Without Lend-Lease, the Red Army would not have had about one-third of its ammunition, half of its aircraft, or half of its tanks. In addition, there would have been constant shortages of transportation and fuel. The railroads would have periodically come to a halt. And Soviet forces would have been much more poorly coordinated with a constant lack of radio equipment. And they would have been perpetually hungry without American canned meat and fats.”
In 1963, KGB monitoring recorded Soviet Marshal Georgy Zhukov saying: “People say that the allies didn’t help us. But it cannot be denied that the Americans sent us materiel without which we could not have formed our reserves or continued the war. The Americans provided vital explosives and gunpowder. And how much steel! Could we really have set up the production of our tanks without American steel? And now they are saying that we had plenty of everything on our own.”
https://www.rferl.org/a/did-us-lend-lease-aid-tip-the-balance-in-soviet-fight-against-nazi-germany/30599486.html
So, who ultimately “won?” Well, in one sense, America did – by out-producing everybody else, and “island-hopping” towards Japan.
However, in another real sense, the Russians did. They were on more of the “front lines” than anyone else, and paid by far the greatest price in blood. They first brought about the defeat of the Germans. Then, they were the ones who actually brought about the capitulation of Japan. (No, the atom bombs didn’t do it.) In a mere eleven days, they completely conquered a crack Japanese army unit in Manchuria. Stalin then calmly told them that he’d be in Tokyo within a month – coming from the West. The Japanese now had only the choice of who to surrender to.
The Russians did win a great victory in Manchuria. However, they would have needed American launching craft, aircraft, and naval units for any amphibious assault of the home islands.
However, most of what you wrote is correct.
My post further up in the string takes a little more time and gives out more facts and figures, but agrees on Russia’s dominance in dropping the Germans.
Actually, Russia did have naval forces and did use them. The key realization was that the distance was extremely short, from the west. If Russia invaded as she promised to do, she could not be stopped.
I am very glad to see, after all these years, the USA officially designating “Victory Days.” It has always seemed strange to me that, until now, Russia was the only one who had officially done so. All of us should be recognizing and celebrating the ones who didn’t come home – and, those who did.
Russia’s “Ghost Regiment” is positively spooky. Because everyone has a black-and-white photograph of a family member that was lost in that “Great Patriotic War.” Including Putin. They will never allow themselves to forget what a “Nazi” is, even today. Nor should we. (They know that they are once again fighting “real Nazis” now.)
“Who won the war?” Everyone did, fighting as one. Every Ally played their part, and paid their price. We must never be seen as arrogant: the victory was shared.
Incorrect…the Americans were marching towards Tokyo…Stalin saw this and thought he could get some credit by attacking.
Stalin did not bring about the capitulation of Japan…Russia was an afterthought…
” By several magnitude Russia suffered the most casualties in the war, losing approximately 9 million military and 18 million civilians.”
I believe a lot of those 18 million Russian civilian deaths were the doing of the Russian government (Stalin).
Unfortunately, a lot of it also had to do with the weather. When military invasion destroyed the critical infrastructure of a city or town as winter was setting in, the outcome wasn’t pretty. But, ask Hitler what a Russian winter can do to an army.
German tactics were savage, treating military and civilian alike. They practiced “total war.”
Weather?
When Stalin’s Stasi was lining up civilians and shooting them with a 22 pistol in the back of the head?
Get real…
Correct…
until the day there is no chance we could get a puppet like Biden or Kamala as commander in chief, I could not in good conscience support anyone doing military service. one day you could be serving your country and the next be a pawn of psycho globalists.
However, there are many who do serve. “Greater love hath no (wo)man.” They will lay down their lives.
righto and what I meant was that I would not encourage anyone to serve, but I would and do support those that choose to do so
I have no particular desire to understand them except to ascertain how much lead or iron it takes to kill them. The Russian has no regard for human life and they are all out sons-of-bitches, barbarians, and chronic drunks.
Soviets, he equated “Russians” with SOVIETS, and at the time, that was totally appropriate.
Not so, today.
Be careful that your enemy is not a “straw man.” Russia is not the USSR. Do not typecast them. They are an ancient nation.
He’s talking Soviet Bolsheviks, not Russian Orthodox Christians Mr Stolte
I like the concept of VE Day. That said, the Russians killed about 5 million German military and we killed a little over 200K German military.
We had about 3 million Army, Army Air Force, and Navy people in Europe. Russia lost about 9 to 11 million military, and still had millions more in uniform at the end of WW2.
Russia led in Europe. They needed our Lend-Lease, but they killed 20 times as many German soldiers and airmen as we did. Of course they had to fight them longer and in their own homeland.
Where we took the lead was against Japan. We the People wanted their blood really really bad. And we got it. They killed about 200,000 of our military (Army, Army Air Force, Marines, Navy), and we killed over 2 million of their soldiers, sailors, airmen, and marines (many of them due to suicide when they finally figured out they had no chance).
Many blame Russia for unleashing the Nazis with the Nazi-Soviet pact a week before the Nazis hit Poland. Russia’s view is the French and British turned Hitler east by allowing him to take Austria in 1938 and making the Czechs and Slovaks commit national suicide in 1938 and 1939 to protect their own unworthy hides.
Stalin returned the favor. He okayed the Nazi-Soviet Pact. He took the part of Poland that was peopled with Belorussians and Ukrainians. Then Hitler turned west and collapsed the French after the British ran away like Brave Sir Robin to Dunkirk. After the war, Stalin convinced the Americans and Brits to compensate Poland with fewer square miles but qualitatively much better farmland in what was Germany east of the Oder-Neisse River line. (The Poles held that land in the 1300s, but lost it to the expanding Germanic peoples.) He would later in 1939-1940 bully the Finns for land, but most of it was peopled with Russians.
Sadly, the Cold War led a lot of propaganda and misconceptions to seep into our national thinking.
Russians, including friends of mine, complain we don’t give them proper credit for their contributions. I reply they certainly killed the vast majority of Germans, but had to do it the hard way because they usually didn’t have air superiority. Russian tanks and artillery would be plentiful and good …. but they weren’t there in quantity in 1941, and Stalin cost them a huge amount of men by not allowing withdrawals in 1941. The Russian way of war also cost many casualties because they used so many men (and women) to try to overwhelm the Germans during attacks. They were on the offensive, so they would be expected to lose more in the assault.
We minimized our losses with air power and artillery fire to increase the combat power of our men.
Americans don’t appreciate the Russians’ sacrifices. They in turn don’t fathom the success of our engineers and workers and inventors in building so many aircraft, ships, tanks (altho Russians built slightly more than we did) and artillery. And trucks, and our unmatched ability to provide these and rations and bullets and ordnance and medical supplies in mass quantities across the oceans.
In the Pacific Theater, we killed about 10 Jap servicemen for every American serviceman killed. The American way of war used air superiority and more explosives to kill enemy combatants before we sent in ground troops to finish the jobs. Neither the Russians nor the Germans respected our way of war, but it saved millions of our men’s lives.
The Brits had arrogance toward our experience, but they also had little-boy envy toward our muscle, and our dominance with their females also. Women the world over recognize alpha males.
The Pacific was our war in Europe. Leaving the ceremony where it is on VJ Day is a better idea. Leaving November 11 to remember all our veterans, and May 30 (traditional Memorial Day, which is also the saint’s day of the great woman soldier Joan of Arc) to remember those who died while in uniform is better.
This still shouldn’t prevent President Trump from making patriotic announcements or staging memorials to the other great moments of our history.
I just don’t think those around him are old enough to remember the history and studied it. Victor Davis Hanson would be an apt advisor to President Trump on such matters.
And President Trump should have the Jap memorial to their invaders of the Aleutian Islands torn down and turned into shrapnel, or anchors for crab boats. Do you think the Russians would be stupid enough to allow a German memorial on their soil?
God bless Treeper Nation!
I am simply appreciative that “we finally did it.” We should have declared a national holiday(s) years ago. We built great memorials in DC, yet never set aside the days.
But, let us always be careful to portray that we are celebrating an Allied victory. Of which we were a vitally important part, but only a part. Many nations throughout the free world unified in their fight against this evil, and we should be very careful to freely acknowledge and to embrace all of their contributions and sacrifices.
Regarding “Russia led in Europe. They needed our Lend-Lease, but they killed 20 times as many German soldiers and airmen as we did. Of course they had to fight them longer and in their own homeland”, there was no retreat by the Soviet army, in part because there was a special police force used against anyone who attempted to leave the field of battle…they butchered many of their own.
Does anyone else find the height of irony that Donald Trump is celebrating victory over Germany and enacting the REAL ID Act at the same time? Show us your papers seems very Nazi Germany to me. I know we aren’t supposed to question anything President Trump does, but I must have missed the memo.
Not really simply because Congress enacted the Real ID Act 20 years ago and continually extended its day to be in full force and effect and it is Congress that set the 8th of May, 2025 when all had to have it.
Pretty sure President Trump’s addition of Victory Day has more to do with the fact that none of the European nations that celebrate that day have ever said a simple Thank You to the United States for its citizens bending over backwards to make sure Europe, and the nations in the Pacific from the Philippines, Australia and Japan to be able to rebuild their sorry ass nations after creating such horrible world wars – so it’s his ‘subtle, not so subtle’ way of reminding those he and his economic team of negotiators are working with that maybe, just maybe those in the EU can knock off their high horse and start dealing fairly with the USA when it comes to trade.
but, that’s just my opinion.
I personally have no problem with a program to improve the security and consistency of “government identification documents.”
I well remember when barkeeps had a big book which showed them what drivers’ licenses were supposed to look like – and none of them were the same. It was fairly easy, in those pre-computer days, for an underaged teen to fake a license. (An official(!) Tennessee license consisted of a photograph slipped into a plastic sleeve. Nothing more. I added a piece of Scotch tape to keep it from falling out …)
These documents are extremely important, particularly in our day, and I am clearly in favor of a program to require consistent, secure documents that follow an immediately-recognizable standard. (Yes, “starting with that ‘star.'”) The principles which they set forth were very well thought-out, and the program IMHO is not unreasonable. Quite the opposite. The designers knew what they were doing, and did it well.
When I travel by air, I go one step further and use my US Passport card.
As an American coming of age in the Cold War and RVN veteran, I’m having to rearrange my opinions of Russia(USSR, the flagship of communism, not one in the same) but I’ll make it. CTH helps. And former Senator David Perdue, IMO, is not the best MAGA person out there, but China is a good spot for him.
WW2 ended in August 1945 with the surrender of Japan.
Is he trying to elbow Russia out of the way on celebrations or is he trying to get alignment with them?
It is one thing to count your own casualties as a cost of war contribution but a better count is how many of the enemy were killed by each ally, and in terms of that Russia causualtied 2.4M Germans versus 400K on the western front.
Tampa’s Mayor Proclaimed March 2025 as
“RAMADAN MUSLIM HERITAGE MONTH.”
Why am I not surprised….
queer is a mental disorder
“An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.”― Winston S. Churchill
Stalin used World War II – both when he was Hitler’s ally and then Hitler’s enemy – as a cover to kill and terrorize more of his own people.
Ethnic groups were targeted for extermination by accusing them of treason, sabotage, etc. and then sending them east into Siberia with no supplies to die from the elements.
But anyone could become a victim of Stalin’s paranoia. Keeping the terror going to prevent rebellion means a steady stream of corpses, which his henchmen provided.
Body counts using those people’s deaths are, therefore, invalid.
See:
https://www.france24.com/en/20200622-stalin-purges-added-to-vast-human-cost-of-wwii
“Stalin’s Purges,” unfortunately, were not the total reason for civilian deaths. Hitler practiced total war, and the consequences were gruesome. But then he also became trapped by – winter.
The Russians and former Soviet countries celebrate upon the 9th.
I don’t think VE Day should be changed to plain Victory Day since we also have VJ Day. It is bad enough people do not know WWII history let alone promote a concept the total war ended upon May 8th.
My Grandfather ministered to the official refugees kept at Fort Erie. I grew-up with the stories of these people since they were such a part of life for my family.
Serbs Rescued 500 American
Pilots in World War II
https://www.teslasociety.com/500.htm
“THE FORGOTTEN 500 tells the story of “Halyard Mission” in 1944, the largest rescue ever of downed American airmen. More than 500 U.S. airmen were rescued, along with some from other countries, all right under the noses of the Germans, and mostly in broad daylight. The mission was a complete success – the kind that should have been trumpeted in news reels and on the front page. (By comparison, the famed escape of allied prisoners from a German POW camp portrayed in the movie “The Great Escape” involved 200 men, and only 76 were successful.)”
You might enjoy reading about actor Sterling Hayden’s life and role regarding your remembrance.
Operation Halyard and the Forgotten 500
Correct link is below
“Operation Halyard and the Forgotten 500”
Greek Orthodox Christian Television
Thank you for posting this eye-opening documentary.
Had no idea about this.
Salute to hero
General Drazha Mihailovich and his heroic people.
“and we commit to protecting our sacred birthright of liberty against all threats, foreign and domestic.”
Yes.
“Rotsa Ruck!”
😂
I guess Stalin made a mistake entering into an agreement with Hitler
Stalin entered into several agreements, including a non-aggression pact with Japan which he immediately rescinded once Germany had capitulated. He did this to avoid having to fight on two fronts simultaneously, and the Japanese were stupid enough to accept it . . .
Remember that “The Vietnam Memorial” is not the only one.
The human anguish is real.
The Church that Defied the Beast
This has hundreds of photos of Orthodox Holy New Martyrs under the Bolshevik Yoke.
The Soviet Union suffered 27 million deaths in WW2. Within this total, ethnic breakdowns and regional impacts varied significantly. Ethnic Russians, who made up the largest portion of the Soviet population, experienced a death toll of approximately 13-15 million (including 5.7 million military deaths), which accounted for about 15% of their pre-war ethnic population (roughly 100 million in 1939). Ukraine with a pre-war population of around 30 million (of which ethnic Ukrainians were the majority), was fully occupied by the Nazis and lost an estimated 7–8 million people (including 1.4 million military deaths). This translates to roughly 25–30% of the ethnic Ukrainian population, a significantly higher per capita loss than that of ethnic Russians.
Expect another one for VJ Day, I guess.
The Margin of Victory
SCOTT RITTER
MAY 09, 2025
“On May 9, Russia celebrates the 80th anniversary of the defeat of Nazi Germany. The United States played a major role in the defeat of Nazi Germany, one the American people should never forget and never stop honoring. But the margin of our victory over the Nazi scourge was razor slim, measured in the lives of millions of our Soviet allies without whom our collective victory would never have happened. We should never forget their sacrifice…..”
https://open.substack.com/pub/scottritter/p/the-margin-of-victory