As the story is told, a drone originating from inside Ukraine flew into a Romanian residential complex slightly wounding two people. When the Romanian government were first asked why they didn’t shoot down or neutralize the drone, Romanian officials said they thought it was a Ukrainian drone on route to Russia – so they did not shoot it down.
Later Romania’s president stated that a drone targeting Ukraine was redirected by a Ukrainian air defense system, which is why it ended up on Romanian airspace. Officially, everyone in Romania now says, it was a Russian drone targeting Ukraine, hit by Ukrainian air defenses over Reni, which redirected its path into Romania. However, before clarity from both Ukraine and Romania, Russian Federation President Vladimir Putin was asked about it.
President of Russia Vladimir Putin: Good evening.
You had to wait. President Lukashenko and I had a lengthy discussion as we had many issues to discuss.
I am listening. Please, begin.
Anton Morozov: Mr President, here is my question. We understand that you have had a busy visit dedicated to the extensive EAEU agenda. However, news is breaking every minute, and you are probably aware of the story about a drone that flew into Romania.
Vladimir Putin: That is what I have just been told.
Anton Morozov: My question is this: why didn’t the Europeans, who are hyping the rhetoric around this story, shoot down that drone?
Vladimir Putin: You know, this may seem strange, but I only learned about this just before entering the hall. I was informed that something had happened, supposedly involving one of our drones. If you would be so kind as to explain it again, I would be grateful – I am not joking, or being ironic – and I will comment based on what I know.
Anton Morozov: Anton Morozov, TASS. The Europeans talk a lot…
Vladimir Putin: No, no, I understand what they are saying. What drone?
Anton Morozov: Why didn’t they shoot it down? Why didn’t they shoot down the drone they associate with Russia that flew there?
Vladimir Putin: Are you listening to me or not? I do not even understand what you are talking about. Before entering the hall, they told me: “You know, some drone flew into Romania.” I said: “I don’t know. What kind of drone?” So, tell me, what exactly is being reported in the media?
Anton Morozov: They are saying it was ours.
Pavel Zarubin: They are saying that the drone which crashed into a residential building in Romania today was a Russian drone.
Vladimir Putin: Who in Romania is saying it was a Russian drone?
Pavel Zarubin: Many people in Europe are saying so.
Vladimir Putin: “Many people” are nobody. Give me specific names.
Remark: Ursula von der Leyen.
Vladimir Putin: “Ms von der Leyen has not been to Romania. She has not examined the remains of that drone. No one can determine the origin of a particular aircraft until a proper examination has been conducted.
After all, we know that Ukrainian drones have previously flown into Finland, Poland, and the Baltic states. The initial reaction was exactly the same as it is now in Romania: “Help! The Russians are coming, the Russians are attacking.” Then, after a short period of time, it turned out that those incidents had nothing to do with Russian UAVs. They were drones of Ukrainian origin that had gone off course, been affected by electronic warfare, or, due to technical limitations, had ended up there and crashed. I believe that most likely we are dealing with the same situation as well.
However, if they provide us with objective data – as we once did with representatives of the US administration by handing over information and drone fragments from an attempted strike on one of the residences of the President of the Russian Federation to be examined – then let them provide those materials to us. We will conduct an objective investigation, and only then will we be in a position to assess what has actually happened.”
Good grief!
“The Russians are coming! The Russians are coming!”
“Everryone to get from stritt !”
My dad loved that movie
Alan Arkin was pretty sublime as the U-boat Captain
i had a crush on allison palmer, the babysitter
Andrea Dromm… Star Trek.
If you listen carefully you can hear the rim shot. Nice.
Theodore Bikel played the Soviet sub commander. Alan Arkin was the lieutenant sent ashore with the landing party. The movie was terrific and everyone in it played their parts brilliantly. It is the kind of movie that absolutely nobody in Hollywood today has the talent to make.
Mine too!
Mine too!
Wow, well guess I am that old. I loved that movie too.
I know the “old” feeling… I was 10 when my mom took us to the theater to see it 😁
What movie??
Look at the comment before the person you replied to. The name is“The Russians are coming, The Russians Are Coming”. Before it’s time.
I remember it well. My girlfriend was the ticket girl and her dad the projectionist at the local theater, in Rapid City. Free popcorn too! I was a sophomore in college then…… fun movie. Rescuing the kid from the steeple was the best part, cemented the support of the community.
God bless
I was only in 1st grade in 1966, but I was in Rapid City, too.
Definitely not theater savvy at that time. I thought staying up late to watch Rawhide on the black/white TV was the coolest thing going on. Lol
if you know, you know. You must be an oldster lol.
Please to get from Stritt!
They were, at least, polite about it.
And that was a great movie!
The Europeans are desperate to escalate this conflict.
Putin gave a very Russian response he wont be baited. He doesnt think much of Von Der Leyen either. Interesting we dont hear much much about the Ukrainian stray drones no?
The Romanians seem to be threading the needle…its Russian but deflected by the Ukrainians thereby not deliberate.
….Desperate to balance the external pressures and temper escalations, the Romanian president himself hedged by stating the drone was “diverted”, presumably by Ukrainian EW warfare.
Putin made another comment apropos the recent SVR announcement that Ukrainian drone operators have been sent to Latvia, presumably for the purpose of staging attacks against Russia from foreign soil. Putin confirmed that any drones launched this way would make their launch locations legitimate targets for Russia.
Of course, one must be astute in recognizing the equivocations of a political answer: Putin is asked specifically what will happen if such drones are launched from Latvia. But his response is slyly deflective: he merely says such launch positions would become legal targets. But being a legal target does not mean it will be hit, but simply that it would be legitimate to hit it, should the will to do so exist. There’s a difference. …
Dmitry Medvedev was far more unequivocal in his now-characteristically firebrand response – from his official TG : https://t.me/medvedev_telegramE/145
Excerpt from Simplicius:
https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/russia-blamed-again-as-drone-hits
I expected better false flags from the Europeans. This one is pathetic and an insult to our intelligence.
The Grift must continue
Europeans and especially British are non-serious people, so produce non-serious false flags.
I love the direct no BS response by Medvedev. He is 100% dead on about the Europeans and. their so-called union headed by Lucifer’s daughter Van der lying.
As Putin plainly said: No one knows where the drone came from, until fragments can be retrieved and objectively, forensically examined. By an international team of experts.
If they, instead, immediately shriek: “It’s Russian! It’s Russian” . . . well, that should tell you all you really need to know.
Where that drone came from is really up to us. We in the USA are the target audience so we get to decide about this new story from warmongers.
Europe’s INSTALLED PUPPET LEADERSHIP are desperate to escalate the conflict.
The Peoples? I doubt it.
That transcription provides a good example of why many of us appreciate President Putin.
Truth
Yes! It is yet another reason to go the Treehouse!
In his earlier years Putin would have grabbed this punk ass “news reporter” by the throat and bitch slapped him until he soiled his boxers, then sent off to the gulag for “re-education ” for 6-10 years for insulting the USSR. Now that he is the leader of Mother Russia he has mellowed out and only vocalized to this punk ass what a dip Shiite question he was asking and to provide specifics.
According Russian in law by marriage this is correct.
I pictured in my mind President Trump saying to that reporter “ What a stupid question. Why would you ask such stupid questions ? Fake News Next Question. “
EPIC !!!
Ukraine could be purchasing UAVs from Amazon / Blue Origin. Quality control issues.
That’s the kind of decision which can blow up in your face.
😉
<Rimshot> 🥁
Ukraine manufactures drones. Lots of them.
https://gssr.georgetown.edu/the-forum/regions/eurasia/a-first-point-view-examining-ukraines-drone-industry/
But, how hard would it be to piece together a working drone from parts collected from used drones?
Ukraine sure likes to attack its neighbors and blame it on Russia.
Remember that missile that hit Poland?
Ukraine is likely supplying Amazon…
😮
I thought this story was sketchy from the get go. I have no reason to believe otherwise.
I smell the rats again steering up chaos . The EU is behind this one way or another.
Desperate people—like the Ukrainian crypto-Nazis, NATO, the EU, and MI6—are resorting to desperate measures.
False flag operations designed to drag the EU and NATO into a global conflict no longer work, and no one is falling for them anymore.
Why are you whitewashing Ukraine?
They are not “crypto” nazis. The Azov brigades are actual nazis, followers of Stepan Bandera, sometimes called Banderites.
However, I see that someone at Google has been removing all references to Stepan Bandera on the internet, and saying that the Azov Brigades have moderated their views.
The 1984 memory hole concept is being proven right.
This is an interesting article about Bandera and the CIA operating in Ukraine; Operation “Aerodynamic” Although I don’t see many citations in it.
https://just-international.org/articles/the-history-of-nazism-in-ukraine-who-is-stepan-bandera/
Google may still have the lion’s share of search hits but they’re not omnipresent. Couple other engines seem to turn up normal results.
Couple corrections Mimi….
Google cannot “remove all references to Stephen Bandera on the internet”. It can only filter them out of search results from a “Google” search.
Try another search engine. (Google is not the only one). I haven’t used theirs in a couple of DECADES.
I recommend DuckDuckGo.com
Maybe the Ukrainians launched the drone and not Russia? Maybe the Romanians knew it was coming? Maybe this was yet another plot to blame Russia? Ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries in the world which is why the Biden’s were so eager to deal there. Trust nothing when it comes to Ukraine.
And didn’t pretty recently the European Union & NATO possibly screw with Romanian elections?
They’ve got a key NATO naval base there, almost finished now.
“The William Tell Overture” – seriously, it comes to mind when I read about the Romanian people allowing the EU & NATO to build that base –
one of the turning points in the story of William Tell was when Swiss men were working on a castle for an Austrian prince to be built IN Switzerland and they were working on the part of the structure that was apparently going to be the dungeon for the castle – it was chilling how devastatingly “secure” it was, where prisoners would be lowered down into the structure – the men realized that they were building their own prison, for them, their sons and grandsons.
“the men realized that they were building their own prison, for them, their sons and grandsons.”
Yet they kept working, didn’t they?
Just as we all do. Well, not all of us, but most.
One of the guilty pleasures of Russian strategic communications is the lack of histrionics…. 🙂
My first question when hearing this story: “Russian drone, or Ukrainian drone?”
And who actually fired it off?
So, if its from Ukraine/EU, its a mistake but if its from Russia, its an act of war. Yeah, got it.
Right!
The still image I saw was of what looked like a “flattened” drone, as if a steam rolling ran over it, laying on the ground. Most definitely not what one would usually see if a “drone flew into a building”…
*roller
Dang…still using steam power??
Carry on
Is their media as pathetic as ours? I thought they were smarter over there. Quoting Ursula von der Leyen as if she has any credibility at all is something our idiotic media would do. Are they really just as stupid and leftist over there? I honestly don’t know.
I see your fake news and raise you 1000.
Ours in Europe is far far more false than anything in America including see n n
I’m soooo glad PDJT is putting distance between US and the Western European wankers. They have become a liability. We don’t need them…As far as I’m concerned, it’s YOYO – you’re on your own.
Was expecting Putin to ask “was this drone strike before or after Trump’s final resolution on Iran?”
Say what you will, but his response reveals Vladimir Putin’s IQ is probably in the highest 1%.
President Putin is certainly a brilliant man. He also seems to be in the top 1% of truth tellers.
That means that he is way smarter and way more honest than 99% of all American politicians and JournoTards.
Re “President Putin is certainly a brilliant man. He also seems to be in the top 1% of truth tellers.
That means that he is way smarter and way more honest than 99% of all American politicians and JournoTards.”
Agreed, and the following small portion of the transcript proves your point…
“Vladimir Putin: Who in Romania is saying it was a Russian drone?
Pavel Zarubin: Many people in Europe are saying so.
Vladimir Putin: “Many people” are nobody. Give me specific names.”
Just like our president Trump, the man is a non-pretender for sure. It’s a large part of why they get along so well. Both being “my country firsters” is another…
I actually think both also would be happy to see all nations do well if they act well.
Your last sentence says it all. I really believe Presidents Trump and Putin have mutual respect for each other and I for one am grateful. Americans (sans dimmocrats) and Russians seem to be cut from similar cloth.
He is intelligent, or he wouldn’t have succeeded in the KGB. Not sure I’d agree he is a truth teller. He tells the truth when it suits him. But is equally adept at subterfuge and deception.
Let’s not forget, though, he’s poisoned journalists to death and ordered critics murdered to keep his 25+ year rule of Russia secure.
But so has Zelenskyy and the Ukrainians, and probably some British MI6 folks we’ve never even heard of.
YOU WROTE:
“Let’s not forget, though, he’s poisoned journalists to death and ordered critics murdered to keep his 25+ year rule of Russia secure.”
Link/source please.
Here’s a good start for you, and you can go from there.
https://www.newsweek.com/putin-critics-dead-full-list-navalny-1870692
Or you’d have to have a signed, notarized confession from Putin? ….to accept the obvious fact that people that oppose him somehow, accidentally, get Polloniom 210 and Novichok poisoning?
Those are pretty controlled items, by the way
I also notice you accepted my assertion that Zelenskyy and MI6 do the same type of things without questioning.
Putin was a very successful KGB agent. If you think Putin is such a sweet guy, maybe research the kinds of activities the KGB engaged in for decades.
All that being said, I still think Putin and Russia are very maligned by the global media, other world leaders, US, Democrats, and just about everyone. I give him full credit for doing what is right and good for his country.
Newsweek?
Newsweek???
Hahahahahahaha! Just no. Stop it!
There are plenty more. I picked that one because it listed all the more notable killings and poisonings. You can search the names and find Fox News articles stating the same thing.
Do you really, truly believe that an ex-KGB operative and dictator would not do what he had to do to maintain control?
You should read up on the KGB
Maybe you should read up on the See Eye Eh!
…you may have to ask for link/source ….Johnny Bolton/toria nudelman/always blinken tony…..
Ditto here. You need receipts when making statements like that.
Maybe it was just a dominos pizza drone delivering?
Or an alien ufo drone.
we won’t know until a thorough investigation of dominos pizza is completed.
That you for your attention.
LOL. Could be. But I’d blame Amazon before I’d blame Dominos.
I guess no one could believe that Ukraine would send off a drone to the east to hit Russia but instead it went southwest into Romania. It would be interesting to know exactly where in Romania it ended up.
Reminds me of the movie Hatari when Pockets played by Red Buttons fired the rockets in the opposite direction of the trees where they wanted to catch the monkeys with the nets.
It hit Golati, a University town on the Danube River across from Moldavia and Ukraine. It’s a very pretty town.
The Transnistria region of Moldova has a majority Russian population.
I believe Sundance is implying that the REAL lede was buried in Putin’s remarks.
“…if they provide us with objective data – as we once did with representatives of the US administration by handing over information and drone fragments from an attempted strike on one of the residences of the President of the Russian Federation to be examined…”
This strikes me as quite a deep level of cooperation and trust between Russia and the United States. Given the CIA’s role(s) in the current Ukrainian gov’t, I can’t help but wonder if Putin might be helping Trump identify US programs and even agents who are serving interests outside of the US Administrative Branch.
Putin would also be keeping us up to date on the original manufacturers of European drone technology. This seems like the kind of data that allies share about a common enemy–if that’s not taking a too Promethean angle.
Ukraine did this before, as well, if you recall, with a missile or drone that landed in Poland. When I hear this story yesterday, I immediately thought that this was another Ukrainian attempt to get NATO involved in this situation. The world has turned its attention to the Middle East, which does not serve Zelensky’s purpose. I would guarantee that this is another attempt from the Ukrainians to attempt to get, at least the EU, militarily involved.
How is it that Z is still breathing? If he were given a pension and put out to pasture, the war would be over. Think about the ramifications of that. The EU would have no purpose and we could retire from NATO. Western Europe could then enjoy their irrelevancy which is what they have been paying for.
“Many people” are nobody. Give me specific names.
Anyone talking to the press should treat them the same way.
Best line spoken. “Sources say….” BS of the western media. In other words: they made it up.
It would surprise no one here at the Treehouse if the “coalition of the willing” were to plant pieces of a destroyed Russian drone in a NATO country with some staged destruction of the area.
He is the only one who makes sense when he speaks…certainly not Z man or Ursula who is stuck on stupid, broken record, “Russians are coming! Russians are coming!” as the EU 2030 net zero climate crap continues to sink that ship. Wonder how much gas costs in EU now?
As a Gen Xer, it feels weird to say that I have more respect for the Russian leader than I do for almost any of mine, but here I am. Putin has always been the adult in the room.
I don’t like Putin, but I respect the man. More so than Ursula von der Leyen and the rest of the EU.
…have you ever seen him talk on Valdai forum???…not one US politicians would do it…
Same here. I give him credit for looking out for the best interests of his country. Though he’s not as pure as the driven snow nor some sort of example of morality as some here apparently believe.
File this under the same heading as Russia blows up its own nord stream pipeline. Fake News.
“Many people” are nobody. Give me specific names……. what a great line from Putin. You could apply that to almost everything in the US drive-by media today as well (including the right-leaning, click-bait, fake-news outlets like Fox and the WSJ). AI will just make it 1000X worse.
This isn’t their first time. 2022, “Russian” missiles hit Poland and big scramble … oh wait, those actually came from Ukraine.
There were others ‘possibly’ including Nordstream but this was the closest I recall them coming to pulling off the false flag to bring NATO officially in.
Having, it seems, really actually really run out of Ukranians to send forth the desperation is thick — as is the pretending from EUrocrats that this is anything other than another slight-of-hand (or slight-of-drone).
Putin to EU-shut up and sit down liars.
What a simple and pragmatic thing for the Russian President to say. It immediately takes the wind out of their sails, once again.
Nobody [can …] actually knows what happened until physical evidence is collected and examined. But, of these two things I can be sure: (1) Russia has no issue with Romania. And (2) Ukraine (the EU …) is desperate to start a full-on war with Russia, and needs a “Russian” provocation.
Mind you: “Europe has no idea what it is doing.” They have utterly forgotten the devastation of WW1 and WW2. But, the Russians have not forgotten, and they never will. The “Ghost Regiment” rides once more, every Victory Day, and every family has one or more participants.
Who was it that said, “They have learned nothing and have forgotten nothing.”?
Been out of the loop for a couple days…..so, looks like the EU still trying to start WW3 with Russia?
President Putin has commanding Leadership. Well said!
I hope he VVP round up those chihuahuas….
Sundance, I have encountered McAfee Virus in this thread.
happening again to me too, last time it was Norton, this time the page hijacker is claiming to be McAfee.
What is interesting here is how the Russian media is exactly as obtuse as western media.
Well, that and how Mr. Putin deals with them exactly as Mr. Trump would.
“Then, after a short period of time, it turned out that those incidents had nothing to do with Russian UAVs. They were drones of Ukrainian origin that had gone off course, been affected by electronic warfare, or, due to technical limitations, had ended up there and crashed.”
Unless Z-Bag bombed Romania as a False Flag to blame Russia.
He certainly sent False Flag Nazi Ringers to the Capitol to frame President Trump and all of us.
Forty years ago, Sting sang this song where he “hoped the Russians love their children too”
Today, it seems obvious some key euro leaders no longer love their children. _ IF they even have any.
A lot of truth in this statement.
There appear to be far more children in Russia than in the United States.
Russia hasn’t been under the influence of the LGBTQ Club as well as the: “We’ve got to stop reproducing for the environment” stupidity, going back to the “replacement” movement. Where we were enticed to replace ourselves and reproduce no further, many decades ago.
…..LGBRQ CLUB… AND CRACK DOWN ON OLIGHARCHS…
Do not lightly dismiss the possibility that Ukraine purposely redirected a Russian drone, or even acquired one, and sent it to a NATO country to false flag NATO into their war. It was just a little before my time, but I’ve read about the Tonkin Gulf incident. These things are done in every kind of conflict; you should see what my wife is willing to do when SHE’S losing.
My wife NEVER loses 🙂
The only good thing about the situation is that either way it’s difficult for them to use as a false flag.
When EU, UK, Ukraine, and Russia speak anything,
my suspicious antennae automatically go up.
It’s a constant search for truth and
with these folks,
it’s an issue of trust.
It’s strange how since
The Iran/USA conflict-war began, Ukraine just got put on the back burner.
So is it a war or not?
A couple of interesting additional notes:
Do a quick look at a map … the target area in Reni, Ukraine is about 50 MILES from the Romanian Border. that’s a long way to fly for a DRONE munition either physically hit or engaged by “deflecting” EM weapon.
The Russians were conducting an ATTACK on a target in Reni, which means a DRONE with explosive munitions. Yet the report from Romania stated the “the DRONE landed and caught fire” (i.e. NO EXPLOSION).
The same report from Romania says their Air Defenses only tracked the DRONE after it crossed the Romanian Frontier …. kind of odd given the alleged concern for Russian DRONES operating so close to the Romanian Border.
FYI … The websites for the major Ukrainian Drone manufacturers indicate they are ALL spin offs of EX-Russian Aeronautical Design Bureau Operations that were located in the Ukraine that also employ ex-Russian Design staff …. and even state their designs are spin offs and updates of Russian Designs.
Did I miss something? Did the media ask Putin about the millions of soldiers and thousands of civilians killed in this war, which has lasted longer than WW2, and the impact it has had on Russian families and the economy?
TOU DID MISS MANY THINGS…
Do you know what a million is, much less millions??
He’s sounding a bit like Trump with the press.
Putin says that he didn’t know about this drone. I am inclined to believe that may be true; until it became a big deal it was a little deal. Putin is told and knows only so much.
The drone might have been Ukrainian, or it might have been Russian, or who knows what.
The problem in general is that there is so much lying going on by now the actual truth practically impossible to parse out.
The problem for Putin is that he actually is responsible for the kinetic part of tis war, and so he has a very thin claim to be the bearer of the truth — whatever on that may actually be.
Maybe it was a false flag; maybe it was a false false flag; maybe… oh forget it.
“Hey, you gotta trust me, this is the truth, really…”
Here’s an idea for both Putin and Zelenskyy: Stop with the finger pointing. Meet with Trump and bring an end to this pointless blood letting.
Master Class.