The baseline tariffs remain, specifically as they pertain to China. However, in a move to diminish public backlash President Trump has now exempted the majority of consumer electronics from the 125% reciprocal tariff levy.
The types of electronic and computer systems exempted, as announced by U.S Customs & Border Protection, Cargo Systems Messaging Service [DATA HERE], is extensive. The machines used to make semiconductors will also be exempt.
All of the following products are now exempt from the larger global tariffs, including the tariffs in place against China:
•Computers (laptops, desktops, servers) •Workstations •Computer systems •Keyboards •Mice •Hard drives •Memory modules (RAM) •Power supplies •Computer motherboards •Graphic cards •Semiconductor manufacturing equipment: •Photolithography machines •Etching and doping machines •Wafer handling robots •Cleanroom systems used in chip fabrication Used by companies like TSMC, Intel, and Samsung in chip production. •Smartphones •Mobile phones with data transmission capabilities •Devices like iPhones, Android phones, and similar mobile communication devices •Wireless routers •Network switches •Modems (cable, DSL, etc.) •VoIP equipment •Communication hubs •Internet gateway devices •USB flash drives •SSDs (solid-state drives) •Memory cards (like SD, microSD) •Other flash storage devices used in everything from laptops to cameras and game consoles. •Individual solar cells, unassembled •Photovoltaic cells assembled into modules or panels, with or without bypass diodes •Custom or specialty solar panels •Microprocessors (CPUs, SoCs) •Memory chips (RAM, Flash, etc.) •Logic ICs, analog ICs, mixed-signal ICs •Specialized application chips (ASICs, GPUs, AI chips) •Widely used in all electronics: smartphones, laptops, vehicles, appliances, industrial controls •All types of LEDs [SOURCE]
The exemption announced April 11th is retroactive back to April 5th. According to the announcement, companies who imported during the window of tariffs may request a refund due to changes in the Harmonized Tariff Schedule of the United States (HTSUS).
This is a major appeasement move to both the Communist Party of China (Beijing) and corporate tech titans like Apple.
There is no other honest framework to view this, other than President Trump retreated fearing backlash from corporate donors, Silicon Valley allies and the broader system of adverse politics. The administration will try to spin this, but it is a really bad look.
Elon Musk won the argument, defeating Peter Navarro, Howard Lutnick, Scott Bessent and Stephen Miller. I was wrong. Obviously, Elon Musk has the most power and influence in the administration.


Well, I’m not buying any of that crap because I keep what I have until it absolutely cannot be repaired. At that point it may not be replaced.
F the oligarchs.
Amen Sister!
I don’t look at it as just ..Consumer products.💁♀️
I look at how much our Military has technology
in our equipment.🤷♀️ Just about every piece of
military equipment has technology built into
it.
Our military stockpile needs replenishment and
updating. 🤷♀️💁♀️
Drone warfare…..you need laptop.
Modern military robotics….it depends on technology.
Even our tanks have technology in them.
Here is a great article……the last paragraph discusses
the new F-47 .
I do agree with the thought that too much technology
makes military equipment “fragile “. It is still needed.
Watch the video of the guy loading the ammo in the
tank….what is he using….a flat screen monitor.
💥I don’t think it is just the techno guys whispering in
President Trumps ear….but also the MIC telling him …
pssst…we need this stuff.
Bombshell Reports: “German Weapons Not Made for War”
And so it starts.
“There is no other honest framework to view this, other than President Trump retreated fearing backlash from corporate donors, ”
It was only a matter of time before critiques of the big guy.
How about these other only explenations..
A peek behind the curtain of how rotten and abusive China is.
A chance to judge the support for a sweeping change and a bootstrap retooling.of america.
A warning to us mere wage earners how e pensive freedom might be and to prepare.
An opportunity for the world to retool their economies and their trade roads.
But No Its a Trump failure. Good job SD or whoever you are for completly preparing the field for the psyops. To much time in Russian perhaps or maybe the way back is blocked. Something happened either personelly or profesionaly.
Sundance you dont owe us a thing but take amoment to reaccess the damage being done to what you worked so hard to build.
The Truth doesn’t care about your feelings.
When I saw this news yesterday, I was completely stunned and po’d. I didn’t look at another news article the rest of the day. There really is no honest way to put a victory spin on this. So disappointing.
This is Not a Cave! Sundance! I’ve been with you since 2015. Since I went looking for analysis on the escalator ride, through the splitter strategy, to President Trumps first inauguration, to now.
This is what I see happening through the fog of Elon/tech bro’s vs. Dr. Navarro/Us
President Trump after conducting a field survey has decided a reduction in tariff level for certain categories of imports (inputs) is warranted. Without enough of those inputs- like advanced manufacturing machines- our ability & time to transition to being an advanced manufacturing power Again is/will be slowed. We just don’t produce what is needed here right now to build. We need them yesterday, not just from China, but from Japan, Korea, Europe etc.. We invented the beginning of all that tech but don’t have what’s needed to produce the latest versions yet… KEY Word YET.
How do we bring these capabilities back as fast as possible -building the factories- construction is the easiest part, reducing regulations to build is already happening- the bottleneck is/will be in supply of high tech specific (inputs) materials (ex. lithography machines for chips) advanced machines to manufacture physical objects (ex. 3D metals printers etc.) For pharma/drugs- onshoring the chemical active pharmaceutical ingredients (API’s) that we don’t yet, or any longer, produce here to make drugs here.
I hate the CCP (have since reading “The betrayal of American Prosperity” by Clyde Prestowitz …circa 2010) & want them bankrupted too! What the President is balancing here is Not a Cave of any sort. He’s still offering his massive carrots of low taxes, reduced regulations, cheapest energy on the planet, etc. to incentivize onshoring, & maintaining his sticks at a reduced level temporarily with the power to re-apply them whenever warranted, depending on how fast onshoring changes.
When panda feels cornered-which he is with 145% tariffs, he may feel his only chance of survival is kinetic physical war. We are not ready for physical war. The President as Economic Warrior has panda by the short hairs with tariffs & he can pull as many and as hard at any moment he wishes using them to bring to panda to the bargaining table, and or, delay kinetic war till we have the advanced manufacturing base up and running preparing arsenal of democracy 2.0. He has not caved!
Yes I thought about the China war aspect too. Sort of like Japan in pre-ww2 when oil and other key components were cutoff to them. Yes China has nothing left when all the markets drop out, or substantially so.
“NOBODY is getting “off the hook” for the unfair Trade Balances, and Non Monetary Tariff Barriers, that other Countries have used against us, especially not China which, by far, treats us the worst! There was no Tariff “exception” announced on Friday. These products are subject to the existing 20% Fentanyl Tariffs, and they are just moving to a different Tariff “bucket.” The Fake News knows this, but refuses to report it. We are taking a look at Semiconductors and the WHOLE ELECTRONICS SUPPLY CHAIN in the upcoming National Security Tariff Investigations. What has been exposed is that we need to make products in the United States, and that we will not be held hostage by other Countries, especially hostile trading Nations like China, which will do everything within its power to disrespect the American People. We also cannot let them continue to abuse us on Trade, like they have for decades, THOSE DAYS ARE OVER! The Golden Age of America, which includes the upcoming Tax and Regulation Cuts, a substantial amount of which was just approved by the House and Senate, will mean more and better paying Jobs, making products in our Nation, and treating other Countries, in particular China, the same way they have treated us. The bottom line is that our Country will be bigger, better, and stronger than ever before. We will, MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!”
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114332337028519855
No it doesn’t I just remember a different Sundance who believed perfection was the enemy of good. Lately it seems feeding the Eyores is a full time job.
Trump cant do this alone and constant demeaning of the team he has selected and adjusted roles for them to play is not helpful. I know you hate Bondi and for good reason but Trump chose her to be what appears to be the press secretary for DOJ.
Patel is probably over his head at the FBI but Trump had to know he would be so the hard analysis to run is why is he there? Is it so he can have unfettered access? Is it so someone will actually look into election interference? I don’t know.
Lately you have been taking shots at Bongino for what? the guys barely put on the badge.
Part of the problem in the room is some just want sunlight and some want prosecutions.. I want both but you cant show your hand and expect to get a conviction of theses legally trained corruption snakes. If we are lucky we may get a handful of high profile targets. In terms of efficacy firing with cause and criminally charging the low level minor offenders would do more in the long term to fix the corruption culture.
For starters, spell check is your friend.
Had you spent any time on this channel before you began spouting your drivel, you would know that SD is honest in his perspectives to a fault. Note that in bold in his comment above, he admitted he was wrong. You used the word failure, not SD, and in doing so revealed your strict adherence to the belief that Trump can do no wrong.
It was just a few days ago that he implemented tariffs, only to pause said tariffs, and now he is modifying the terms of the tariffs still in place on China.
If SD believed that Trump would not cave to the corporate interests and has posted as much prior, then admitting his perspective was/is wrong is simply stating fact, not casting the word failure at Trump. Methinks thou doth confuse the two.
Side note: best to consume the content on this channel and grow your knowledge base before opening mouth and inserting foot without such knowledge first.
we get it. its happening again 😉 Just switch the name DeSantis with Musk which is ironic because Musk is a DeSantis supporter and only switched sides when he knew who the winner would be.
I have been here under MIPAIN and trial by truth since shortly after Andy Died and you??
Its a failure if you put the max spin on it. Partial setback or more to come etc would be better terms.
I expect something of this nature because stuff like politics is not repeat not written in stone.
Executive orders or spcifications can be modified easily by Trump.
Think of EO’s as stock.
Da can go up or they can go down.
Unfortunately you being wrong is bad news for us but better to see for what it is
Just saw this on another blog, yet I do not have the direct quote source. Can anyone verify?
According to Stephen Miller, the so-called “exemptions” to importing semiconductors, phones, chips, etc., etc. are not, after all, exemptions. They simply fall under a different program of governance:
“Section 232 of the Trade Expansion Act of 1962 allows the U.S. President to adjust imports of goods if they threaten national security, typically through tariffs or
quotas. This provision is used to investigate and respond to the impact of foreign imports on domestic industries deemed critical for national defense.”
What I believe is going on is that this is a move to keep the young voters on Trump’s side. The D Rats ( Bernie Sanders and AOC) are going around the Country to try and win back the young voters. PDJT starts putting massive tariffs on I Phones and the youngsters will switch to the D Rat party.
I think that’s right, since those products may not be made here yet.
Although I think there are also some mixed Corporate motives as Sundance says.
If you notice Elon is always w Trump everywhere. I think a Million is involed. 🙂
He follows PDJT like a puppy dog. I guess PDJT likes it or else he wouldn’t be around all the time.
the products that spy on americans….shouldn’t be allowed to be sold here….F china
Yes, sadly the items with tariffs lifted are used to spy on Americans, but mostly by the Americans!
The unfortunate reality is it is quite likely the whole system just has to collapse and be started over. There is just too much corruption
Going back to Adam and Eve?
What might rise from the ashes wouldn’t necessarily be what you would hope for.
I don’t know about that. Watch a great movie “The Gods must be crazy”; while entertaining it accurately depicts the life of pre-civilisation “little people of the Kalihari” who live as hunter gatherers.
They have none of our modern conveniences, seem quite happy and well adjusted, and have none of our chronic illnesses.
Virtually no obesity, heart attacks/strokes, diabetes or autoimmune diseases.
Similarly are the Kush, another tribe that continues the hunter/gatherer lifestyle; the move 4 times/year, changing their eleveation, based on the weather, moving higher in summer, lower in winter.
Interestingly, the Kush diet consists of;
One of 3 kinds of meat (depending on teritory and so availability? a squash like vegetable, and honey they harvvest from stingless bees that build hives in the baobab trees.
And thats it. Meat, squash and honey, and they do quite well on that as their diet.
Not sure civilisation, which is settling in ONE location, is such a great idea. All sorts of bad things can be traced back to that decision to stop hunter/gathering and instead “settle” in one place.
That is a fine movie … have not seen it since its original release decades ago.
I was hoping for secession’s but after looking at the disaster that Florida and Texas are there is no hopium there.
“There is no other honest framework to view this, other than President Trump retreated fearing backlash from corporate donors, Silicon Valley allies and the broader system of adverse politics. The administration will try to spin this, but it is a really bad look.
Elon Musk won the argument, defeating Peter Navarro, Howard Lutnick, Scott Bessent and Stephen Miller. I was wrong. Obviously, Elon Musk has the most power and influence in the administration.”
It was really starting to look that way to me too, Sundance. I’m glad you had the guts to come out and say it.
What’s next? Pharmaceuticals? We aren’t ready to produce our own, as I understand it. Maybe I donaa’t understand it.
I have a lot of concerns about this….I didn’t vote for an Elon, I voted for America first, Miller and Navarro….People keep forgetting Elon came at the end of the party in July….NONE of us wanted what he brought…other than his money. Now we have his tech/foreign labor influence with is 100% anti American first. Musk spends an inordinate amount of time with DJT and he is being very influenced clearly…this is very very concerning for me…
I think it’s less an appeasement of China (Taiwan benefits most from the exemption of semiconductors and microprocessors, not China) than a determination to not punish American consumers, and American companies yet to re-base out of China, more than necessary while resetting the trade framework. Apple, for one, would have been in a difficult position given that it’s wholly reliant on China for iPhone production. And let’s be frank, if Taiwan and Japan had not signaled a willingness to negotiate, things like flat panel displays and chips would not have gained an exemption. And still, as someone has posted, even the exemptions are subject to sunset if the countries involved grow intransigent on fair trade. But giving breathing room for companies to move production, and the markets to adjust, is not the end of the world, let alone some sort of betrayal of the MAGA movement.
This process is not just about “punishing China” but resetting the trade structure and a give and take for those willing to talk was always baked in as part of that context.
I sometimes think that we’ve become so used to being double-crossed as people who love America that we’re too quick to view a non-bellicose move as somehow a stab in the back. For a while, allow the process to play itself out. Trust it until it becomes clear that trust is no longer warranted. And pray for wisdom to know how to respond to these events.
J
Those products exempted are end used by 90% of Americans. No way for them to be made in America over night. Why punish the average American to punish Chy na in the short run? Trump did not think this tariff policy through and it looks like he is shooting from the hip. He needs to think this tariff policy through and proceed one step at a time.
So, good move on his part by exempting these products for the time being.
If you’re gonna ride with Trump forget about some never, ending straight line, flat, boring highway in Kansas.
Think more in terms of Laguna Seca Raceway – and hang on tight.
Your comment is one of the most astute thoughts I have seen on these posts in some time…well done!
However, I like those straight, flat country roads in Kansas for letting my vehicles “breathe” if you know what I mean…easy to spot cops patrolling. Plus it is a rather beautiful state!
Why do donors even matter anymore for Trump? He isn’t up for reelection anymore. Trump should put back the tariffs and tell congress that if they slash corporate income taxes for made in America production to 0 he will soften the tariffs.
Congress won’t lift a finger. They are now squealing about cutting $1.5T (over 10 years) when the deficit is increasing at $1-3T per year.
Because dems are running in 2026 and so are pubs. Donors and supporters of MAGA are still needed for the future. MAGA does not end with Trump being out of office.
Colkkito, I am not smart either but I think you are predicting a Summer of Love for 2026. We had that also in 1992 to elect Clinton with the Rodney King racial riots.
Why wouldn’t S Korea, Vietnam, Japan and India not immediately slow their roll in negotiating bi lateral trade agreements? Or at a minimum look at their export lists and tell the Admin: “I dare you to hit these products with punitive tariffs.” They know the items we can’t make too. These are not dumb people.
It weakens the Presidents hand imo. That said: 10% baseline is something I guess.
It’s a very weak look. Regardless of the true reason, it undermines his entire brand/image which, make no mistake, is a real cornerstone in his ability to project power and hold leverage. I know that’s harsh, but I’m very surprised to see him take this action, and over a weekend when it’s harder to control the messaging.
This is what I appreciate the most from the OP. He does not let feewings get in the way of saying what needs to be said. Thats the best thing we can do for MAGA on the sidelines because the truth has no agenda.
Feeewings….nothing more than feeewings…
There was some unforeseen harm to small business owners in America, who had nowhere to get their parts from, but somehow I don’t think Musk was considering them when he raised his objections.
You’d think that China would retaliate by putting restrictions on those exemptions for spite.
This is not one step back to take two forward. This is just bad.
This involves PDJT’s self-proclaimed wheelhouse: bedrock economic and trade policies. The very foundations of MAGA.
I don’t care if an iPhone costs $2,000 for a year or two. We can ration and keep the old running, just like our parents did during WWII for a few years. If an American is building it, they will eventually be able to afford it, and relative prices will retreat.
Too bad PDJT didn’t have Henry Ford to hang with instead of these globalists.
Meanwhile, old MAGA warriors such as General Flynn and Rudy Giuliani are now asking loudly: What the hell is going on at Justice and FBI?
The “Golden Era” may only last until 2028 if this continues.
And Tom Fitton. He was on War Room with ‘MAGA savior’ Bannon on Saturday and read the riot act to Bannon about Patel and Blondi.
Bannon was not interested in any criticism of his War Room evil spawn. They are his friends.
Addenda: PDJT has responded to this exemptions controversy.
I know right.
If only President Trump had perfect solutions,
Rather than the temporary optimal solutions.
Maybe he’s using this grace period to get tech focused.
He’s probably not going to let this go to waste.
We are so far out of the capability to onshore lost manufacturing that these exclusions must happen to allow US to build back into the manufacturing capability. Also least amount of pain to US peoples.
^^^ This is accurate ^^^
Trump45/47…..
should have given these…..
Chinese electronic devices a temporary…..
90 day tariff off ramp…..
with something to shoot for…..
I’ll bet the Chinese think they’ve won…..
and are celebrating.
I don”t care what the Chinese are thinking
He exempted pretty much a majority of China’s gravey train….Sounds like our Prez has folded his cards…Too bad.
It wasn’t Elon, it was the bond market. You don’t mess with it.
The propagandists are expert at shifting the narrative to the “derivative”. What these moves do is allow them to move the focus away from the primary discussion of “tariffs good or bad at leveling the playing field and for national security” to the “process is chaotic, not well thought out, amateur hour, market manipulation, loss of confidence, American exceptionalism has already peaked, blah blah blah.”
Just because we see through the propagandist here at CTH doesn’t mean they are powerless to construct the narrative.
Does not matter to me SD that you were wrong. Key is that you are showing us all the cards. Personally I appreciate the forthrightness and say, keep an eye on the Tech Bros.
We have paddled out so far in the desert without paddles that we must have paddles flown in to be able to paddle back.
So, did China roll their high tariffs back on US?
It’s starting to look like it wasn’t thought out sufficiently. Also, it’s looking like Trump blinked and China won.
What he could have done is exempt or discount reciprocal tariffs temporarily and proportionately in relation to a companies investment into building factories here. For each dollar they invest in a particular factory they get a discount until the factory is built. Giving relief in exchange for measured immediate action.
Excellent thought. Our enemies will see this as part of a beginning wedge to which they can gradually add another and another, and another.
As was said, this was REALLY POORLY THOUGHT OUT. I can’t believe he made this blunder at this time.
Now, watch his best cabinet people peel off, one by one, because he broke trust and humiliated them. And then become seriously unsure of his stability and leadership. I can’t believe that he didn’t think this through from every possible angle BEFORE MAKING THOSE ANNOUNCEMENTS.
Disaster..
“What he could have done is exempt or discount reciprocal tariffs temporarily and proportionately in relation to a companies investment into building factories here. For each dollar they invest in a particular factory they get a discount until the factory is built. Giving relief in exchange for measured immediate action.” – Good idea. Would you like to share it at the Truth Social?
I listened to Larry Kudlow on AM yesterday (his 3-hr weekend broadcast). He pronounced that exemption news to be a good move.
Screw Kudlow. He’d sell his grandmother to make believe that he’s in “the big time”.
Oligarchs like Trump and Musk like each other and understand each other.
By the way, this is why political MAGA goes away after Trump leaves the stage.
The oligarchs can join forces to ‘make America great again’ because they have the gravitas, but if there is no oligarch in the presidency then MAGA disintegrates.
MAGA is already disintegrating. After six elections since Trump came on the stage why don’t we have 60% MAGA House members or at least a 30 person GOP majority?
This isn’t a retreat, it’s a grim reality that there is no other source for this material at the moment, a tariff on China doesn’t drive us to instant manufacturing here or anywhere else. They are sole sourcing all of this material. There isn’t another replacement option at scale for this stuff in the near term.
China Inc. just won the tariff war … thanks to Comrade Musk.
This was the major intersection point that gave some leverage over the US (International) Tech Barons.
Look close at the fine print because Elon just made $Billions … as China Inc. is the home nation for his tech business … since the faux financial crisis of 2009.
Big yawn and shrug of the shoulders for anything else in the news after today.
I do not buy sourcing could not be started here in the US for this stuff … sure there would be some upset consumers but that is part of the pain described by President Trump.
Why not make deals with more friendly sources that do exist??? Taiwan Comes to mind, heck even look at some of the EU nations.
If the American economy is a china shop (no pun intended), the 2,000 pound gorilla in the room is household debt.
As 2024 came to a close, it exceeded 18 trillion dollars– the highest in our history. We are a consumer society, and tens of millions of our brains have been hard wired for instant gratification. And how dare you suggest that I go on using an i-phone that I bought last year when there are now newer models with even more cool apps? I’ve gotta have one!!!
To make matters worse, we have become conditioned to accept that the products we purchase are poorly made, and will need to be replaced on a time scale that is constantly shrinking. Everything from gym socks to automobiles has gone downhill.
China, and a host of other countries, are our enablers, but I doubt if anyone here except the trolls has a Chinese credit card. We are the authors of our own destruction, our credit cards the gun that we point at our own collective heads.
So, I applaud the President for his efforts at reform (we have to start somewhere), and selectively retreating on tariffs suggests that he is reading the room right, but I believe that he does not have time on his side. In the Fall, attention will begin to shift to the mid-term elections, which Republicans in the House will increasingly see as a possible rerun of the ’82 carnage brought on by the Reagan Revolution. To buy time, IMO tactically our President needs to start producing substantive tariff agreements with our friends and allies to give the electorate a sense of hope. An agreement with Japan is, as Sundance has suggested, a good place to start– and we need it sooner rather than later..
Beware of the shellacking of 2026.
On and off again and again is unserious.
The USA cannot afford to be seen as unserious. OK, we will allow our enemies supply our computers when we go to war with them.
Trump has a tricky balancing to pull off, he’s got to enact his agenda whilst remaining popular. The former is to repay his loyal supporters by enacting their agenda, but the latter is equally important because it stops the tactics deployed by the DS and MSM, that relied on a perception of lack of majority support. This is why their hit-pieces and manufactured crises have gained so little traction, but they are just waiting for the opportunity to tee one up when his polls ratings show a dip, which the Democrats will run with, all the way to the Mid-terms.
So, tariffs are initially enacted but modified when their impact might affect his personal and policy numbers. It can be maddeningly frustrating to watch these constant compromises, but Trump II learned from the mistakes of Trump I and one of those was that the self-evident success of policies is not enough.
Musk really is Dark maga.
DMAGA
73d chess
Wow, Trump caved to China. Unbelievable. Pretty soon there will be no tariffs. Especially for China. Why would anyone negotiate with him. Really disappointed in Trump. Reminds me of when he shut down the economy because of covid.
@sundance ever since 47 retreated on the tariffs a few days ago and the spin from the administration was that it was “The Art of The Deal.” I realized that Chyna, the globalists, WEF, RINOS, and DemonRats all won. My only concern was how Sundance would address this and interpret it in his blog. For the past few days I kept on returning to your posts to see how you would address how Trump retreated. I was 60/40 in my thinking how you would address it. I bet myself that 60% you would side with the 47 administration. And 40% of me said you may be honest but I didn’t believe it. I am proud that I was wrong how you would address this and you are right about everything regarding Peter Thiel, Palantir, Ai, etc. and now Kristi Noem is pushing Real ID etc…as you always say just enjoy your best life and whenever the opportunity presents itself throw sand in the machinery.
I always enjoyed Ali and the rope-a-dope! Trump has years of playing rope-a-dope and passing the art of the deal. I agree with outhouse counsel. Ain’t my bailiwick, but am comfortable watching PDJT cast and reel until our manufacturing base can get stood up.
Whether we understand the forces at hand, God has all of it under His control. Give us this day our daily bread! Amen 🙏🏽
It took years to get the chip factory in
Arizona up and running. 😏😖
It is finally producing, and in 2028 the second
part will be operational with newer processors.
This is great article- shows timeline of development
and progress.
TSMC Arizona – Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company Limited
I take a different road on why President Trump did it..
🤷♀️ 💁♀️
Thinking strategically and defensively….🤔
The TSMC plant is located next to
the MIC contractors in Arizona- is no surprise 😉
A lot ..maybe most.. of our military equipment relies
on technology. If you look at the list….it is not just
consumers who use those items— but our military.💁♀️
🤣 🤣 The speech that EU Ursula Fond of Lying comes
to mind…..when she was screeching about Russia taking
chips out of washing machines and putting them in
military equipment…! 🤣 However, her comments do
spotlight the reliance on chips and technology that modern
military has.
Simplicius76 latest article is not only informative, but gives
insight on how much technology is used.
Me- I agree that once you start incorporating too much
technology into military equipment…it becomes “fragile “.
Bombshell Reports: “German Weapons Not Made for War”
Where are all the people calling my previous comments (implying Trump was using maximum risk to no benefit. , 180 countries blanket tariffs takes focus away from that tariffs could actually be doing like slow coercion…)
The reactions to my comments – what I think were based in sound economics – were almost always one sided mostly:
I was spreading FUD and implying I am on team suck a somethingopolis.
I do not have all my previous comments links handy but if you find them I hope you read them in the light of todays events and passing of time proved them right. And not even that much time, within 2 weeks.
No honor in a victory lap, but I do take the redemption bow with this.
HUGE Mistake.
Sundance, next will be the H1B visas…there will be a flood of them.
There is a much simpler explanation.
At this time, the US has virtually no companies who can make laptops or phones or some of the other devices.
President Trump is scrambling to set such companies up here in Ohio and elsewhere.
When we are able to provide American-made electronics to our people, Chinese electronics will get tariffed appropriately.
This should have been known before the tariffs went into effect and would have eliminated all computer, electronics, and other sales in the U.S.
It will take decades to get U.S.-based production relevant again in the electronics space. There needed to be a better plan, both in the planning and implementation, but also in the communicating to the public.
It’s difficult to find American manufactured products in China, while difficult to avoid products, or products made with components, from China.
Our own government, long owned by globalists has outsourced our industry to China.
It isn’t the Chinese who are ripping us off, it’s our own government manipulated by the globalist oligarchs who own it.
Of course China has been focused on our markets, they were given to them by us.
Just as sanctions and obstacles in banking were implemented against Russia, they treated it as a challenge to rapidly solve the issues, gain national sovereignty from globalist dominance and thrive.
We need to do the same here.
IT looks bad….. but it shows how bad off our manufacturing base is… its really bad. And yes, cutting to cold turkey 125% is VERY HARD. IT would an honest move by all treepers to recognize the truth of both things
1) exempting computers looks bad
2) we are in far worse shape from a resiliency perspective to handle price moving up with tariffs than we thought.
there are an estimated 17-24 hours of physical labor in making an iPhone (google it)
They “labor cost of assembly” of an iphone is estimated to be $20-$30 of cost
SO, do the math … the American people are “hooked” on iphone usuage consumption that pays workers just over a $1 per hour to make our iPhones—
So, nobody cares about our manufacturing base. And … no one seems to care that are standard of living is propped up by communist slave wages on most of what we buy from them
Google say the average manufacturing worker makes about $13K a year… it’s likely a lot lower
Plus look into what the 996 work culture is in Chinas — 9AM to 9pm 6 days a week
Karl Marx said the capitalists would exploit the worker…. so one should become a communist to stop that…. turns out its the commies are the worst of the worst.. they are doing exactly what they said they would defeat.
Apple (AAPL) – Cash on HandCash on Hand as of December 2024 : $53.77 Billion USD
https://companiesmarketcap.com/apple/cash-on-hand/
You can build a lot of factories in the US with 57 billion
Sure. But it is going to take 10 years to build and staff and get up to production. What do you do in the meantime?
*TRUMP: NOBODY GETTING “OFF THE HOOK” FOR UNFAIR TRADE
*TRUMP: THERE WAS NO TARIFF ‘EXCEPTION’ ANNOUNCED ON FRIDAY
*TRUMP: CHIPS TO BE ASSESSED IN NATIONAL SECURITY TARIFF PROBES
Toys – according to my brother, who is in the industry – have a 10-15% presence in American companies.
Everything else is from China (mainly) or other Asian countries.
Ohio has one toy company left in Hudson, Ohio.
Ohio Art, famous for producing Etch-a-Sketch toys, now only makes cans and signs via metal lithography.
Kenner Toys in Cincinnati has been gone for 25 years.
It will take undoubtedly the entire second term of President TRUMP to re-seed toy factories – and the factories of many other products – and bring about a Golden Age of American Manufacturing, with the danger, however, that after 2028, another DEM Communist might steal the election and again undo everything.
Above, member Brian Simpson wrote:
“It’s difficult to find American manufactured products in China…”
I would add: “And it is difficult to find American manufactured products in AMERICA!“
Announced April 11….
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“The exemption announced April 11th is retroactive back to April 5th. According to the announcement, companies who imported during the window of tariffs may request a refund due to changes in the Harmonized Tariff Schedule of the United States (HTSUS).
This is a major appeasement move to both the Communist Party of China (Beijing) and corporate tech titans like Apple.
There is no other honest framework to view this, other than President Trump retreated fearing backlash from corporate donors, Silicon Valley allies and the broader system of adverse politics. The administration will try to spin this, but it is a really bad look.
Elon Musk won the argument, defeating Peter Navarro, Howard Lutnick, Scott Bessent and Stephen Miller. I was wrong. Obviously, Elon Musk has the most power and influence in the administration.
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…and it took Sundance 48 hrs to address it.
Yeah, it’s that bad.
Let’s take stock. In the last 72 hrs we have learned….
1. Elon has secured the presidential green light into embedding Palantir’s AI into the IRS
2. Elon has revised his DOGE savings on govt fruad and corruption from $2 TRILLION in 2025 to a mere $150 billion
3. Trump has been (forced? Coerced? Tricked?….choose your adjective) into “appeasing the CCP and Tech Bros” on trade.
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I think someone may have whispered in
his ear….psssst….we need these items to
rebuild our military.😉😉 and we don’t
make them.🙃
💁♀️ 🤷♀️
Thank you!
I agree!
👍 👍
See my post on previous page..
Most seem to be concentrated on consumer
products 🤷♀️💁♀️ 🙄😖🙄
I look at the list and think…..Military.
Laptops are used in drones, is just one example.
Hard to find a piece of Military equipment that
doesn’t have some type of technology
incorporated in it🤷♀️
I will post article again……and the last paragraph
about the new F-47 and what is needed 🤷♀️💁♀️
Bombshell Reports: “German Weapons Not Made for War”