I have been waiting for someone to outline what the Dept of Government Efficiency (DOGE) is all about. Unfortunately, perhaps due to the history of the matter, it appears few understand. So, with that in mind, and accepting the operators of DOGE may not have a fulsome comprehension of the dynamic, here is what it means.
The last Federal Budget that passed through “regular order” was for Fiscal Year 2008, signed by President George W Bush in September of 2007. Every budget since has been outside regular order; a series of continuing resolutions, omnibus spending packages and short-term funding mechanisms. {CITATION}
That is correct. In the past 17 years, all federal spending has been ‘short-term’ or ‘stop-gap’ spending measures, generally known as “Continuing Resolutions,” where the govt (House and Senate) continue to perpetually resolve to fund the government. The CRs as they are known, punt the spending debate by accepting a baseline of prior spending and tweaking around the edges.
The key takeaway to begin thinking about DOGE is to understand that REGULAR ORDER has not been used since Fiscal Year 2008.
Title III of the Congressional Budget Act outlines a legal timeline that each President and Congress must follow {SEE HERE}. Prior to 2007, Continuing Resolutions were only used to resolve short term arguments about spending priorities.
♦ BACKGROUND – The President is required by law to submit his budget by the first Monday in February. Yes, even when an election takes place and a President doesn’t assume office until January 20th, the first Monday in February is still the legal requirement for the new White House budget proposal.
The Presidents’ budget is then submitted to The House of Representatives, where two weeks later the Congressional Budget Office, reviews the budget and issues an opinion as to the cost of the budget. No later than six weeks after the President submits his budget all House committees send the House Appropriations Committee their spending proposals [April 15].
Through May and June, each budgetary appropriations bill from the House is sent to the Senate. The Senate receives the House appropriations bills, then reviews through the Senate Appropriations Committee (Thune just picked Susan Collins as Chair). The Senate proposes their spending priorities based on the House bill because the House has constitutional authority to originate all spending [June 15]. The House and Senate budgets are “reconciled” using parliamentary procedures [June 30] and then sent to the President for signature.
The fiscal year begins October 1st.
That’s the regular order process.
Again, regular order has not been followed since Fiscal Year 2008, signed by George W Bush in September of 2007.
♦ The Problem – When congress doesn’t follow regular order they end up with a series of “continuing resolutions” (CRs) where spending is decided on a short-term basis because they don’t have an agreed budget. The problem with CRs is what’s called “baseline budgeting” where all prior spending is the baseline for the continuation of spending proposals. The baseline accepts all previous spending priorities, then adds to them with the new spending needs.
Baseline Budgeting means congress keeps spending on all historic programs regardless of merit or benefit. All the prior spending just continues, and new spending is added. That means when an omnibus spending package is created (instead of individual appropriations bills), all the previous government waste is baked into the cake, and the funds are spent again – regardless of need.
EXAMPLE – If congress funds a trillion-dollar Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP), and then doesn’t follow regular order in the next year, the TARP funds spent become part of the baseline of spending. The trillion-dollar TARP can be spent again, and again, and again, as each subsequent year of CRs continues unfolding.
Now, imagine what exists within the system of federal spending when most of the expenditures of the past 18 years are never filtered out. Eighteen years of smaller, albeit not insignificant, amounts of money continually piled on top of each other. Imagine what lays underneath all those layers and layers of unreviewed spending. That’s where we are.
To be fair, the House of Representatives under Republicans did pass almost all of their individual spending bills this past year and sent them to the Senate. However, Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer just ignored the bills, put them on a shelf and awaited the govt funding problem to surface so that another CR debate could take place.
Now, you might ask yourself how this ridiculous system can be stopped or put into check. Well, the mechanism to shut down this nonsense is in the power of a Presidential Veto.
A President can veto a federal budget that he/she feels spends too much money and subsequently send that budget back to congress. This is where politics comes into play because essentially if the funding runs out the Presidential veto is shutting down the government.
Again, this has been our reality for the past 18-years as congress blames the President and the President blames congress. Each of them playing a game of political chicken, daring the other to be blamed by the public for financial Armageddon. Example Below:
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Again, regular order has not been followed since Fiscal Year 2008, signed by George W Bush in September of 2007. It’s been CR politics ever since.
♦ Now, along comes President Trump in term #2 which begins January 20, 2025.
As you start to think about DOGE, remember, in the background of the transition, using OMB Budget Director Russ Vought, the first Trump budget has been organized and will be submitted to the House of Representatives by the required legal day of February 1, 2025.
In part, it is transparently obvious why House Speaker Mike Johnson has been visiting Mar-a-Lago so much. There is strategic budget planning afoot.
A Republican President Donald Trump is going to submit a “regular order” budget to a Republican controlled House.
The now Republican controlled Senate (John Thune) will be responsible for accepting each of the House Appropriations bills and responding accordingly to create a federal budget for Fiscal Year 2026.
I highly suspect President Trump is not going to accept another failed budget and yet another CR from a Republican House and Republican Senate.
The problem Trump faces is the Republicans will not want to be responsible for cutting out 18 years of fat from the spending process. The democrats will wield the politics of these cuts in order to achieve electoral victory in the 2026 midterms….
…. Enter, Elon Musk, Vivek Ramaswamy and DOGE.
That looming regular order budget, and/or the looming veto if it is not followed, is the visible purpose of DOGE.
In essence, Elon Musk is assembling DOGE as the weapon needed to hold a UniParty congress accountable to deliver a regular order budget.
Yes, hundreds upon hundreds of billions, perhaps trillions, can be cut out of the budget if “regular order” is followed. Each committee in congress will have to submit their spending proposal to the House Budget and Appropriations Committee, while Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy are reviewing each of those proposals and putting them on BLAST!
DOGE may start reinforcing rules within the federal government as controlled by the Executive Branch. However, DOGE isn’t going to be going into federal agencies per se’, to cut their spending. DOGE can just wait for the Fiscal Year 2026 spending proposals those agencies are legally required to submit congress to come to them, then review and BLAST any of the fat.
Through this process, the Executive Branch is not in constitutional conflict with the Legislative Branch. Congress can accept and submit any spending proposal they want, but DOGE can outline it happening in real time and pour sunlight on to it. This is why DOGE and a Republican Congress working together is more effective.
When you understand what I have outlined above, then what follows below from Representative Tim Burchett makes more sense. WATCH:
Just left the @DOGE meeting with @elonmusk and @VivekGRamaswamy and it’s clear to me that the problem is going to be the members in that room.
Cameo by @chiproytx pic.twitter.com/pEzNbAPhCF
— Tim Burchett (@timburchett) December 5, 2024
Burchett is saying that congress will never cut that 18-years of CR fat out of the spending bills, no matter what they say. That 18-years of CR fat is huge. Think of the scale of 18-years of layers of spending as a result of baseline budgets and CRs.
What Burchett is not fully absorbing, is how a VETO from President Trump is now framed against the visibility of the political BLAST that Musk can provide.
Can you see it now?
Last point. Perhaps, just perhaps, one of the people with strong familiarity of this issue, Matt Gaetz, is going to be a key player.
Maybe there was a reason no one else wrote this.
Love to all
~ Sundance


There better be a well organized and executed plan to beat the MSM at it’s own game. Specifically as cuts become apparent they will be misconstrued and attacked constantly. The counter strategy cannot be limited to outnumbered appearances on MTP etc. I’m picturing a continuation of the rallies, but in any event PDJT needs to hit the ground running to keep the electorate on his and our side. Otherwise, as we all know and have seen, liars gonna lie.
See Minnesota Mike’s post about charts and graphs in presentations to “the public”, so that more people understand what is happening.
As I mentioned, “pictures say a thousand words”. I am, personally, more likely to understand.
Vivek Ramaswamy said yesterday that he was going to focus on eliminating government funding to NGOs. He pointed out that Victoria Nuland was involved in one called The Center for the Study of Democracy. It received $400 Million from the Biden Administration.
Nuland’s sister-in-law , Kimberly Kagan, happens to be the head of the Institute For the Study of War.
All in the family.
These relationships are important to get out. I personally hope that Musk and Ramaswammy will utilize their megaphones on “X”, Truth Social, GETTR and other alternative media platforms to keep the public informed.
One side creates the war, the other side operates it. And when you’re done, the capital investment firms (Burisma’s of the world) swoop in to pick the carcasses. Everyone benefits except the citizens of the target country.
It’s an easy game to play when you have no morals.
cruiser55: Disgusting and disgraceful. These people create nothing but trouble and reports no one reads.
NED, National Endowment for Democracy is another one that needs to go. $300 million last year. The numbers are undoubtedly under reported.
It’s always the small amount that adds up. A few million here and there and before you know it it’s billions and eventually trillions. Each and every one of us has seen this happen in our own household budgets, although on a much smaller scale to be sure.
That is a huge chunk of money especially on a rolling basis – year after year.
Plenty for personal profit. these organizations have no accountability on top of it.
Now that colour revolutions are passe..
Democracy works until you run out of other people’s money.
Raising cheese snobs on fine wine is expensive.
Make Americans Pay Again
Two of the most despicable humans on the planet in the same room.
“She takes success with her where ever she goes.” 🤔
Yeah. However, she leaves it in the car.
Amen, brother..
SPIT!!!
Also takes a lot of our money because “studying” Democracy to the tune of $400 million per year must be very difficult. I mean, by now, these folks must all be geniuses from all the studying they do as they stroll around DC with their pockets and suitcases stuffed full with $100 dollar bills; with most of the dough having recently been returned from Ukraine for “services rendered” as these “brain children” continue to “study” Zelensky’s “Democracy,” which forbids free elections and persecutes religious figures. What a great set up, for sure. Just sayin.’
I’m counting at least 3. McCain, Kerry and Nuland. I may have missed a few also.
Why are so many of them jewish? I mean for real. It is noticeable.
Epic: Because you fail to notice that 98% are not.
You’ve got it reversed, Bill!
ugly beyoth and terrible terrible terrible devil right there. May Karma visit them soon in unfathomable ways. I loathe them
and they have some very good girlfriends who probably whisper in some of the Washington elites ears to “KEEP” that $$$ coming all the while on teevee at night protesting exactly what is happening with that NGO money. Washington makes strange bed and WOMEN bedpillows. JMHO
So, if there has been no budget, which means CONgress has not been following the law; because of that, why can money NOT be impounded by the President because the CR is illegal. Yes? No? Why?
We have a rogue, rudderless government barely operating in legality. Both parties love to point at the other for the near bankruptcy but both haul it in as a result of their scams.
I hope President Trump puts his foot down on the brakes this time around.
Knowing our VSGPDJT has specific workaround plans for EVERYTHING!!!
Nailed it very succinctly.
CRs aren’t illegal. They’re being misused. It is up to the other branches, namely the executive branch, to apply the check against the legislative branch that isn’t doing their jobs. This will now happen.
The result will be money not spent (and therefore not printed), not money impounded.
And it would be good to announce that federal employees that are not “essential” and do not work during a shutdown will NOT get back pay after a budget is passed. This would put pressure on Congressional Dems to cooperate.
Exactemundo.
If they are not “essential”, that “job” shouldn’t exist.
No president can spend money not appropriated by Congress. And if he does not pay the interest on the debt, he can be impeached for not doing so.
What is Joni’s role in this scenario (sarc)?
Her main job is to keep making that real hairdo look like a wig.
What a disappointment!
she’s right on my list with Kerry, Nuland, McConnell, Thune and Cornyn.
Her “role” is to distract and disrupt both Elon and Vivek’s efforts as much as she possibly can while continuing to “pretend” that she is “helping.”
THIS is why I come to the LAST Refuge. Thank you so much for being a positive part of my life.
BINGO!!!
Imagine eliminating a trillion dollars a year from the Budget. It won’t happen overnight, but the deficit could be eliminated in a few decades with just that change.
Now imagine unleashing oil and gas exploration. Lower transportation costs reducing the price of everything that travels to market plus the income taxes from all that additional drilling revenue.
Now imagine a lucky/providential discovery of gold, rare earths, etc. like has just been revealed in El Salvador, when a rational Administration allows risk takers to explore and drill and mine.
Imagine people spending (and saving) all the money they currently spend on fuel and overpriced food, cars, houses, etc. A booming economy ahead.
America’s best days really could be ahead of us!
How do we get a genuine change of heart into these government agencies? As long as the users are allowed to pillage we’ll struggle. Perhaps the earnest prayers of the faithful will purge the place.
I think many agencies will be eliminated entirely or merged with others for efficiency.
And if DOGE and Conservative media (think: Charlie Kirk, Joe Rogan) can spotlight, pressure, and ridicule politicians who don’t get on board we may have a fighting chance at forcing real change. 🙌
Joe Rogan is not conservative.
So? He is a patriot.
Defund them. Take away the pot o’ gold they think is theirs to waste as they please: the Federal Income tax
Hello.. Do I hear an Amen?!
Amen!
We don’t need a change in heart in the agencies. If we can get Congress to pass a balanced budget, their ranks will be diminished and they will have nothing to say about it. I say that as a former fed. I never thought anyone owed me my job and always thought my good performance was my job security, not civil service tenure (which i gave up with one job change, much to the amazement of some of my fellow feds.
Joe will pardon them all.
The deficit can’t be eliminated without either drastic cuts (not just from accumulated bloat) or massive amounts of new revenue.
Interest payments, social security, medicare, and medicaid spending now costs more than all federal taxes taken in, without accounting for any other spending including the military, DOJ, DOE, the other DOE, etc.
There is a very high likelihood of eliminating more than a trillion dollars, closer to two trillion, from the budget the first year alone, but we’ll see how it goes. There is going to be screaming and wailing and gnashing of teeth from many in the Beltway, and there will definitely be real fighting going on over it.
Entire agencies will be eliminated.
And I specifically addressed massive new revenue: exploration and everything that goes with that plus a booming economy that fuels spending/purchasing in multiple sectors.
All that money currently eaten up by inflation freed up for fill-in-the-blank : housing, investment, research, inventions, new discoveries, new forms of energy (nuclear) and other breakthroughs.
Imagine a new Renaissance.
Why not sell some of the vast government land in the West – and route 100% of proceeds to paying off debt?
Sell it to whom?
Americans
That government land in the West is our Western states. Let the states administer the land.
Or some of those empty DC office buildings?
What deflationary event are you envisioning to suck up all that printed money sloshing around?
President Trump 45-47, isn’t that obvious?
Cut the Federal government back to its Constitutionally-mandated scope and size, let the States run, regulate, and fund themselves. Then transfer the public debt to the States: they will retire it within 30 years.
Maybe tariffs and shutting down the State Department…ambassadors can report directly to the White House.
Most are useless anyway.
Why do we need ambassadors in the era of telephones, jet airplanes and video conferencing?
“Listen to the music. A representative will be with you soon.” Really?
Oh man! I really like that idea!!!
Tough cookies! And I say that as someone just outside said Beltway!!!
The Federal Government has been busy at USCIS sending incorrect (I suspect on purpose) citizenship data to State agencies to verify that an illegal is now a Citizen, which allows them to collect full welfare benefits for Cash, Food & Medical. The State employees cannot change the status back to undocumented. These illegals have point blank told the welfare workers they have never applied to be a citizen. Through an interpreter no less.
Imagine a balanced budget, cheap energy, low inflation, and no need for the Federal Reserve to have interest rates over 3-4% to control inflation. The virtuous cycle that would unleash….
Correction, no need for the (Unconstitutional) Federal Reserve!
You honestly think the lobbyists will just run away and hide, along with 95% Democrat DC?
Won’t be overnight, but now we can see why Team DOGE said their work will be done by July 2026-Their goal will be to pass a real budget by the June 30, 2026 deadline
As I see it… In order to balance the budget, the government needs to reduce spending. This would entail, at least, no increase in the size of the government. A reduction in the size would be optimal. The problem is congress doesn’t want cuts or a smaller government. No kickbacks in that plan.
Here is Elon and Vivek step in and do the cutting! Look what Elon did to Twitter. The wasted overhead, and needless perks that Twitter employees had vaporized. The employees that didn’t do their jobs, lost them. This (DOGE) is something I really look forward to.
Imagine the tears. Ron Paul only voted for bills that did not include hidden clauses. I believe that was one!
Hopefully there will be an Audit of the Fed and printing of money arbitrarily (counterfeiting) is also on this list.
Sundance, genuine question. So has the thought process changed that DOGE is no longer a “nose under the tent” regarding access to the NSA’s metadata for Palantir/other tech benefactors?
Nope. I’m just giving you the visible DOGE roadmap for how things will roll out.
On the background issue of AI and Crypto, the hidden agenda continues.
3rd watch: TRUMP
Crypto President
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/113603021753296650
Any accountants here.
Bogey increases to baseline budgets is 3%/ year = the following years baseline budget disregarding inflation
So a single $100M program COSTS We The People $165M on it’s 18th year
Even an incompetent manager can stay within that budget window
So if an accountant can verify my cal’d – it would be greatly appreciated
Dude…is that light I see? Excellent article.
Maybe a welder’s torch?
For each giant theft DOGE needs to name names! Every sponsor and cosponser of every spending bill that continues in force. Pictures, names, congressional addresses. Let them explain to their constituents why they have stolen from generations yet born why they want them to live in slavery to government and kleptocracy.
“Vivek’s comment on my brief Victoria Nuland post has had 40 million hits.”
National Endowment for Democracy? Never heard if it. Vivek looking at NGOs…
https://x.com/ClimateAudit/status/1864477819167768982
Mike Benz talks about NED with Joe Rogan and also on his X account. Three days old.
The Rogan interview is lengthy and gets really deep into the weeds. However, it is quite fascinating. Rogan listens intently, asks good questions and lets Benz speak…. a lot!
It’s a good listen, in the background while doing other tasks. You can always stop it and go back to an interesting or complex statement.
https://rumble.com/v5vqf8z-mike-benz-cias-ned-program-for-global-censorship.html
My previous post was just a short clip from the 2-hour 45-minute show. Full show is below.
https://rumble.com/v5vpq1w-joe-rogan-experience-2237-mike-benz.html
brief
Former senior adviser, NED.
“Nadia Diuk was born in 1954 in the United Kingdom to refugees Maria and Petro Diuk, who had fled persecution by the Soviet authorities. Her father was a warrant officer in the Ukrainian Insurgent Army.”
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US Experts Discuss Upcoming Run-Off in Ukraine. (5min)
I wonder if Schumer was born with that arrogant smirk on his face? For some reason he is one who really irks me.
It attracted his big shoulder husband. Chuck is as Creepy a FILTHY LIBERAL as our queer PM in Canada, Big Gay Chief Spendy McBlackface Hairdo.
Investigate Schumer. Never worked in the Private Sector. Complete Scum like the Bushes
That’s an insult to both soap and pond scum!
I view him differently. First, setting the context they are all horribly corrupt traitors including him of course. However, within that context he seems to be a minimal threat. Honestly, he gives off the air that he finds this all fascinating and he’s is kind of at the “screw it, whatever happens, happens point.” Schumer is not clueless and has known PDJT too long. He’s the kind of guy that probably smirks at some of his own co-conspirators who really think PDJT is evil, etc. y sense is he gets a rise out of the whole thing.
who knows
In my opinion, the ONLY way to cut Congressional spending, is to de-fund Congress by ELIMINATING the Federal Income Tax. Let the Federal government fund its operations with tariffs and if more money is needed, beg it from the States.
I believe this can be done with a Congressional Bill or via Presidential Executive Order. The 16th Amendment allows Federal Income tax but I believe does not require it.
Ever since the Federal Income Tax was instituted in 1913, the Federal government and the kudzu bureacracy have been growing and growing, fed by the roughly 30% the Feds skim off the top of our confiscated earnings. Let the Feds beg for money from the states; and we will see the Federal government shrink back to its Constitutionally – mandated scope and to a much smaller size.
At the same time, the Federal Reserve Bank must be forbidden to money-print; and a plan to have the States assume the Federal debt, must be agreed upon. The States have fully-functioning governments, largely duplicating the Federal; and can tax, run, and regulate themselves.
Matt Gaetz! He already has the FORCE of a Jedi warrior. I pray that his knowledge, skills, and abilities are used in whatever capacity needed in this next phase of growth for the USA.
And we wonder why the national debt has exploded the last 15-20 years.
Not me. I always knew it was grift!!!
If you figure they waste/steal ~2 trillion a year since Obama was installed…. that puts us around 30-40 Trillion sounds about right to me.
Larry Fink, Reid Hoffman, George (and Alex) Soros, Nancy Pelosi, countless others – So much corruption to be investigated, tried, fined, to a grand total of, I don’t know, maybe $35trillion or so?
Whenever Larry Fink’s name is mentioned, appropriate modifiers should proceed it.
“Aptly named”
“Truthfully monickored”
“Prophetically labeled”
“Descriptively correct”
Trump: You cut, OR I cut. It is your choice. Choose wisely.
Trump: I have some friends here who want to help cut. Your choice.
I have said that in these government shutdown scenarios when the Republicans are in Congress they should pass a balanced budget by regular order and in the event of a veto by a Dem president let the government shut down with a balanced budget CR and tell the Democrat president that if he does not spend as they have budgeted he will be impeached. And do it.
The time is right for this. One of the most poignant national changes that occurred because of Trump’s first term was a sea change in the dependence and trust the Americans have for the media. I dont care what kind of spin the NYT or CNN put on it, the American people are highly skeptical of media at worst. At best, they are dismissive and disdainful. People now watch and read liberal IC controlled media for entertainment purposes, not for truth and facts.
Now if DOGE puts the theft and graft on blast the media will have a much more difficult time distracting and deceiving.
There’s also the possibility. That the vastly overpaid propaganda shills true funding sources from the feds might dry up.
See what so many celebs or newsreader’s net worth is, and watch it plummet after
The gubbamint can’t find money in the couch cushions to front to them.
DOGE should not expect to save the required amount of money simply by cutting the federal payroll, though that is important. The bigger piece comes from the money they spend on programs, including payments to citizens for all manner of programs, including SS, Medicare, and other entitlements.
Social Security is close to being in balance. Medicare is the disaster program, it’s being looted by doctors and hospitals. Enforce 100 year old antitrust laws and Medicare (and the budget) can be saved.
And people who have nothing to pay -$0- for endless operations.
stop giving SS, Medicare and Medicaid to every illegal who steps over the border. Sure way to shore it up. Don’t tell me they dont’ get it. Stop in ANY office and you’ll see them young, older, old, middle age …. all signing up. If they didn’t get it they wouldn’t be there
Entitlements? Or, qualified beneficiaries?
Social Security is not an entitlement.
Funny how the constitutional order of producing a budget provided such clear-cut balance and instruction. We will have to find a way to keep republicans voting for MAGA solutions….wvery rime.
Let me see if I got this right. Feel free to correct me.
We have 350 million (350,000,000) people in the USA
We have 35 trillion in debt (35,000,000,000,000)
I know our Gov gets revenue from a variety of sources beside income taxes (tariffs, corporate taxes) but if you cancel zeros and divide this out you get $100,000 dollars in debt for every man woman and child in the country.
Ouch
That’s only so far. Multiply that number by 3x for what the gov’t has already promised people to pay, but hasn’t yet paid, so it isn’t officially on the books.
When those people don’t get paid, and their counting on that money to run their business, stay afloat in retirement, whatever, there’s going to be hell to pay. It is all coming down.
*they’re
The problem is when an amount is larger than 999,999, numbers like Million, Billion, Trillion, et all sound the same, so people don’t worry about it.
If the current $35,000,000,000,000 had to be expressed as 35,000,000 piles of $1,000,000, this would have been stopped years ago, as people would have said enough!
Most people are risk averse. If they saw just how much we owed, they’d demand change. They don’t want the burden on their lives to pay back what they haven’t personally borrowed. And as a parent, I didn’t have my children as slaves to repay a frivolous lifestyle.
Yet, this is on us, as we chose to go off the Gold standard because we couldn’t have everything we wanted right now.
The one thing that PDJT needs to do is refuse to add one more penny to the debt that isn’t critically needed. We need a balanced budget amendment or else when D.O.G.E. gets started, it must become permanent, to reject a dreamers grandiose ideas to make life perfect. Without enforcement, this is all eyewash.
DOGE partnership with OMB will be key to success in reducing spending. Russ Vought knows in detail the federal budget and spending “black holes”.
With Vought in the saddle the budget proposed might actually accomplish the purpose of cutting spending.
The topic is quite large, but I’ll add a few missing high points, and a few random items.
– our USA Federal DEBT is $36 Trillion
– fiscal year 2024, the federal budget deficit was $1.83 trillion
– we spend roughly $1 Trillion a year on interest payments on the debt
– Colonel Douglass McGregor estimates we’ve spent $15 Trillion on Forever Wars since 2000
– I’ve heard estimates that we have 750-800 military bases around the world
– we have 119 Military bases in Germany?
– we have 45 4-star Generals and Admirals, all which have staffs, budgets, and fiefdoms
– the State Department (some C-A?) has over 65,000 employees
– U.S. Intelligence Community (IC) is made up of 18 agencies
– the Department of Ag (USDA) is made up of 29 agencies and offices with nearly 100,000 employees; I was once told their #1 job is managing Food Stamps
– the VA has 400,000 employees
The last one, the VA, has 400,000 employees on perpetual coffee break.
🤓🇺🇸
“Can you see it now?” No, we are just too stupid Sundance. I can’t believe you are talking down to us.
ADMIN- CLEANUP IN AISLE 3!!!
As someone who has worked for the “gubmint” it will take DOGE/The White House/Congress months to gather data on what can be cut. Sure, there are some obvious stuff but it is not like on day 2 or day 20 or even day 200 that we can just snap to the desired reduced state. But I remain optimistic.
While I’m sure the new guys running DOGE might need time to ramp up there is one person who has intimate knowledge of the budget and spending who will be providing very detailed information to the DOGE team. That is the head of OMB – Russ Vought.
Russ and his organization Center for Renewing America has produced multiple balanced budget plans prior to 2022. Russ provided these plans to the McCarthy led House Republicans. There were several variations of the plans that gave the Repubs flexibility in getting to a balanced budget using either a 5 year plan or a 10 year plan. Of course the House Repubs only paid lip service as we all witnessed McCarthy’s breaking his pledge to bring appropriation bills to the floor in lieu of CR’s and omnibus bills.
Russ knows where hundreds of billions of cuts that can be made that he calls low-hanging fruit. Cuts that are no brainers and are common sense cuts that the Repubs can coalesce behind and are supported by taxpayers. This will provide a jump start to the process in my opinion.
Like you, I remain very optimistic that the multiple pronged attack PDJT has implemented will be successful.
every commercial on my local radio station now is sponsored by National Highway Institute, National Drug Institute, everything….nobody advertises cars etc on radio anymore. The govt stepped in and bought the air and ad time…..for meaningless ads. Nobody goes to the library based on a radio ad. The only one I see as imp is the one about don’t text and drive….it is worth keeping
I think we have already scooped up that data.
I hope Elon and crew sift through all the Federal grants that are doled out to NGO’s and really stupid studies, like shrimp on a treadmill. Close USAID down. There is so much to cut, the list is endless. Will it really happen? BLAST THE FAT needs to be a bumper sticker.
“,….and maybe there was a reason nobody else wrote this.”
“Matt Gaetz (with a strong familiarity of this issue) is going to be aplayer in this.”
Yes, and not as an A.G. certainly. WHY did PDJT ‘cave’ on MG, while he is sticking with Hagseth?
Do you suppose its because it was never their intention to have MG be A.G.?
But, but that would mean that PDJT, A VSG, with 4 years out of office to think about it, might have come up with a strategy, and tactics for finding a way to finesse the Senate Confirmation Conundrum, one of the biggest impediments his first term, to him truly implementing his MAGA Agenda, and draining the swamp.
Its not 64D chess, but it does require a little deception and misdirection, to get the enemy looking OVER HERE, so they don’t notice
whats going on over there.
Nahhh, I see too many comments assuring me PDJT isn’t playing 64d chess, and that I shouldn’t “trust the plan”. Many of whom are alsi fretting endlessly about P.B. our soon to be A.G.,….or IS she,….?
Was it PDJT that “caved” on Matt Gaetz or MG that caved on MG?
Very Stable Genius, on April 2, 2023, put that dash on his MAGA hat. 45-47…
TRUST THE PLAN!
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Hi Sundance:
I am a Warroom Possee member and listen daily. Steve Bannon has laid out this plan for over two years explaining the CRS and the budget appropriations process. This is why the house fired Kevin McCarthy and brought in Mike Johnson – who has not been successful, yet. It is done on purpose to get an omnibus bill at the end of the fiscal year that funds the lobbyists pet projects and the expanding wars around the globe.
I totally agree with your assessment of DOGE and the fight that is before the House of Representatives 2024-2025. Holding each congressional person accountable before they vote is imperative.
Ok, folks, so our friend @Sundance tells us that the “regular order” when the US government actually passed, and HAD a Constitutional budget, ended in 2007. We all know that Obama came in, in 2009. Who else took over the budgeting process? Does the name “Mitch McConnell” ring a bell?!
Following is a list of Majority/Minority Senate leaders, beginning from 2003 (Frist) to present. In 2007, corrupt Senator Harry Reid took over as the Democrats gained the Senate majority. Sitting across the desk from him, representing “our” (i.e. GOP voter’s) interests, was none other than McConnell. (Sorry, can’t excerpt or print a photo highlighting the record, so I’ll include the whole link here instead.)
https://www.senate.gov/senators/majority-minority-leaders.htm
Reid needs no explanation, based on his corrupt ties to Nevada based gambling interests. The focus should be on McConnell, as in Q1: “Why does the country still have a 14-year old, arguably unconstitutional Obamacare law, destroying American’s health system?” Answer: McConnell. Q2: “Why hasn’t the GOP demanded a regular budget, or shutdown government to force the issue, instead of caving to endless CR’s?” Answer: McConnell
Now, of course, that answer is Thune, and probably Collins. Same uniparty, different year.
Bonus question: What was the national debut the year that McConnell assumed the Senate Minority Leader role? Answer: About $8 Trillon (and that included money spent on the 2008 bank crisis – 2009, the debt was “only” $10 Trillon. Today? $35 Trillion. That’s PLUS $25 (or 27) Trillion in debt in just sixteen years, all since McConnell decided that if the Democrats didn’t want a national budget, then neither did he. Both parties gorged and enjoyed “governing” under zero constraints.
Im curious as to why the budget process switch occurred and why it was allowed to continue. .
In calendar year 2008, Bush was serving his last term. Pelosi became Speaker on Jan 4, 2007.
In calendar 2008, did the Bush admin execute any steps in the regular budget process in order to create a fiscal 2009 budget?
Ah… Murphys Law…. Found info just after posting…
https://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/infocus/budget/2009/index.html
I heard loud and clear. Good job as always SD. I am smiling from ear to ear! Trumps got this!
“In essence, Elon Musk is assembling DOGE as the weapon needed to hold a UniParty congress accountable to deliver a regular order budget.”
Some suggest that this is a ruse, and that the real purpose is to exploit the bloat to cause even more problems for the nation in the name of remedying the bloat.
Because the government spending is woven so thoroughly throughout the entire economy now, keeping things propped up, supplanting the post-WWII industrial framework that was lost. Slash the spending, and the house of cards topples.
Where the problems will include widespread severe psychological distress synergies attendant with the economic threats and impacts, rippling well beyond government and contractors.
It will expose the weakness of the entire house of cards as failures mount. Can’t restore the real economic basis of industry at this point because of the endemic loss of competencies after 60 years of identity class quotas and loss of competency-reinforcing industry, with China et al now increasingly dominating industry and associated science/engineering/tech.
Powell sounds the alarm about the debt, he says the solution has to be to grow the economy. But the government overspending, borrowed and created out of thin air, has been much of the GDP, nothing but vapor. What will happen when the government spending is slashed? The economy will not compensate because industry is a hollow vestige now. Slashing government spending will decimate and disrupt the economy, the debt will balloon even faster as tax revenue drops, this is the reality that Powell does not acknowledge.
https://thehill.com/business/5022592-federal-reserve-warns-unsustainable-path/
Could it be that this was part of a longer-term Plan? To build certain conditions over some years, later exploited to cause disruption and degradation of the nation? Hard to ignore the pattern.
A similar pattern is unfolding with other major movements:
-Mass illegal immigration (> many serious problems, looming deportation disruptions).
-Climate canard (> energy, industry, and transportation subversions).
-Med/pharma corruption (> bio-attrition).
-High inflation by design (> crushing the middle and working classes).
-Weaken and deplete the military (> push for war without industry needed to prevail).
Some observers say this all amounts to a “controlled demolition”. Hard to refute this suggestion.
And DOGE appears to dovetail with the “controlled demolition”.
Time fopr DOGE ball
WOW!
The games they play …
IT’S NOT YOURS TO GIVE.
Here’s a huge problem, likely a predominantly democrat voting segment. From 4 million to 24 million since 1939.
All Employees, Government (USGOVT) | FRED | St. Louis Fed
The democrats will immediately propose cuts in social security and Medicare to reduce spending and save their sacred cows knowing the repugnicans won’t risk their elected positions on that point. Stalemate.
no they won’t go there, it’s too big a bridge for them. WIC, SSI, Medicaid are ALL sacred cows to them. These programs need revamped … WIC I think is helpful. SNAP … the more kids the more $$$ … stop some of the MAHA bad stuff you can purchase, Medicaid needs some stops….you don’t go to the ER for a broken finger nail, you don’t use it unlimited….have say 6 ER visits annually, stop paying for some generics that can be got OTC and for $4.00. I worked in WV DHS for years….I saw all the ways they get around this stuff
The LIEAP program is SO abused. Its to help with winter heating bills. Folks let their ENTIRE year bill run up (with the help of the power companies) and then they apply for LIEAP to get it paid. Now they have grandfathered in Water Bills, Phone Bills, etc etc etc and people just don’t pay their bills and the taxpayer pays them. I agree winter bills are higher but summer, and my water bill is the same rate every month unless I fill my pool up. Why would I let a year go by and have a big $300 bill at end. Crazy. Same with taxes. These people don’t even pay property or personal property taxes. The fraud abuse and just GRIFT……………Plus the food banks around here are endless …. people go to EVERY one, they can’t be using all that food but some shut ins are starving.
I do think the MEALS ON WHEELS needs to return though. I’m messaging the DOGE about that … it is truely needed
All government employees should not be getting special retirement plans while the rest depend on social security and 401k’s and IRA’S WE should implement the fair tax and do away with income taxes which are complicated and unfair. The military should have a portion of their pay put into a retirement fund to pay for their retirement after 20 years. The other government workers should be getting no special favors but have to rely on SS as well and voluntary 401k plans. Most government jobs could be done away with. The original intent of working for government was as a temporary job to serve we the people but it has turned into a big fat entitlement that many of the GSE’S don’t deserve because they are lazy and should be fired. No unions for Government service employees. No unions for teachers. States should handle education not federal and local governments should have the greatest amount of authority over education. Allow parents decide where their kids are educated. Let funding flow to responsible parents.
“Fulsome” is the new “irregardless”.
sounds like a plan
Reminds me of the simple exercise of having a penny on day one and double your total every subsequent day.
1×2=2
2×2=4
2×4=8
2×8=16
2×16=32
2×32=64
2×64=128
2×128=256
2×256=1024
2×1024=2048
2×2048=4096
For the sake of brevity…
Starting with but a single penny at the end of 30 days the total is 53,6870,912 pennies ooorrrr $5, 368, 709.12
Of course that is chump change for ‘our’ Federal Government.
The more everyday Americans learn about the workings of the budgetary process that spends their money, the more this financial catastrophe will be brought to a halt.
Thune’s selection of Collins to head the Appropriations committee reminded me.
A word from the Lord/Amanda Grace 11/14/2024 (a snippet)
“There are those within says the Lord that DO NOT WANT A RESTORATION TO HAPPEN THEY HAVE BEEN POSITIONED EVEN NOW AND THOUGH THEY PUBLICLY SAY THEY AGREE PRIVATELY THEY HAVE ALREADY MET CONGRESSMEN AND WOMEN FROM COMMITTEES HAVE MET AND HAVE PLANNED STOP WORK ORDERS, THEY HAVE EVEN SPOKEN OF A PLOT TO IMPEACH ONCE AGAIN TO ATTEMPT TO STOP CONGRESS FROM MOVING FORWARD IN THE WORK THEY MUST DIGILENTLY MOVE FORTH IN BEFORE THE NATION.
Thus says the Lord, I see the conspiracy, I see the meeting that 5 in Congress were at, I the Lord see the meeting in the inner room, a situation room in the Pentagon where an emergency has been called and meetings were had to start the workings of a conspiracy growing strong and another coup to be attempted within the first year of Donald My son, entering office.”
“And says the Spirit of the Lord, this day watch the CIA CLOSELY IN THIS HOUR, WATCH CLOSELY AND PRAY MY CHILDREN FOR DESPERATION HAS MOUNTED TO A FEVERISH PITCH AND I THE LORD WILL NOT ALLOW ANOTHER KENNEDY IN TEXAS CRISIS THAT GRIPPED THE NATION DECADES AGO, HOWEVER THEY WILL TRY SAYS THE LORD THEY WILL TRY.”
The first thing people jump to, in their minds, when spending cuts are discussed are social security, medicare, disability, food stamps, etc. What they don’t realize, or maybe they do, is our government funds/sends billions of dollars to other countries and for ridiculous “projects” that the American people would never approve of in a million years. That’s the fat that needs to be cut. Bring our money home and take care of our own!
Thank you for that explanation, Sundance!! It really helped me to understand the role the D.O.G.E. will play.
I am excited about this prospect! Maybe Rep. Burchett hasn’t considered the role the “Truth” platforms will play, and the fact that programs such as Joe Rogan, Tucker Carlson, and Steve Bannon’s Warroom play in getting the real truth out. We now have “X”, Truth Social and GETTR along with Gab and Telegram to a lesser extent, for Patriots to get the truth about what is going on.
Speaking for myself, I am so sick and tired of the games the politicians play and the “word smything” that occurs to skew public perception that I could just scream! Sunlight, Sunlight, Sunlight! Bring it on.
My biggest worry right now is I know so many people who just lay down their swords and go back to doing what they’ve always done now that the 2024 Election is over. We Won! They seem to think the war is over, and don’t seem to realize that it just started.
Gaetz- Speaker of the House of Representative’s
Pigs are feeding at the Federal trough and feeding their families and friends.
Millions of federal contractors side-by-side with federal employees at the trough…..and mostly voting demonrat