This is more than a little interesting and aligns with my own research and discussions. House Speaker Mike Johnson was lobbied by former CIA Director Mike Pompeo and current officials from the CIA, DNI and Intelligence Community.
This effort, and his son starting at the Naval Academy, is what changed Johnson’s mind about allowing the U.S. intelligence community to have his full support in the IC war against the American people.
The story is shared by CNN, the official outlet for perspectives and viewpoints held by the U.S. State Dept (CIA), so keep the narrative origination in mind. Here are the key points as written in the article:
WASHINGTON – […] The speaker’s embrace of Ukraine aid represents a remarkable evolution for Johnson, who voted against funding for the country as a rank-and-file member. But almost immediately after securing the speaker’s gavel, sources say he began to hear directly from critical Republican national security voices – including Donald Trump’s former secretary of state, Mike Pompeo, who impressed upon him the urgent need to approve assistance for Ukraine in its fight against Russia’s invasion.
In March, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky lobbied the speaker directly. Within minutes of the House approving a new military aid package for Ukraine on Saturday, Zelensky offered his thanks to US lawmakers, and in particular to Johnson for his decision that “keeps history on the right track.”
And more recently, Johnson received a key intelligence briefing from CIA Director Bill Burns, who painted a picture of the dire situation on the battlefield in Ukraine and the global consequences of inaction, according to multiple sources with knowledge of the situation. The briefing left a lasting impression, and Johnson became increasingly convinced the fate of Western democracy was on his shoulders, sources close to him said.
Another factor that sources say weighed heavily on his decision-making: Johnson’s oldest son was recently accepted into the Naval Academy.
“To put it bluntly, I would rather send bullets to Ukraine than American boys. My son is going to begin in the Naval Academy this fall. This is a live-fire exercise for me as it is so many American families,” Johnson told reporters. (read more)
♦ The U.S. Intelligence Community (USIC) is at the epicenter of all modern corrupt politics. Every element of weaponized government, each example of action taken, can be traced to an agency within the USIC.
Similar to every other person I have ever met in Congress, House Speaker Johnson was pressured by the USIC and accepted their position. Johnson then changed his mind on the priorities of the USIC, sided with them in everything they requested, and pushed all he knew about the corrupt and weaponized conduct of the USIC to the side.
Keep in mind, we know the core ideology of the USIC is political and corrupt. We also know the core motives of the USIC are weaponized against anything that would remove their power tentacles from control. We know this, because the former USIC Inspector General was an institutionally corrupt guy named Michael Atkinson.
Before becoming the Intelligence Community Inspector General (ICIG), Michael Atkinson was the chief legal counsel at the DOJ National Security Division. Atkinson was the office lawyer for the Deputy AG in charge of the DOJ-NSD. Essentially, Atkinson was the internal compliance officer within the DOJ-NSD responsible for making sure all the rules and regulations of the national security division were maintained and accurate.
Michael Atkinson was Acting DAG Mary McCord’s lawyer when she was head of the DOJ-NSD, and when she submitted the fraudulent Title-1 FISA warrant against Carter Page that was used as a surveillance tool against Donald Trump and his campaign.
Atkinson would know the granular details of the FISA application, because it was his job at the DOJ-NSD to audit every U.S. Attorney Office that submitted FISA applications – including Washington DC.
When Mary McCord left the DOJ-NSD, she went to work for Adam Schiff and Jerry Nadler on the joint House committee to investigate Donald Trump. When Michael Atkinson left the DOJ-NSD, he went to work as the Intelligence Community Inspector General.
It was Atkinson who changed the rules allowing an anonymous whistleblower in the CIA (Eric Ciaramella) to make accusations against the office of President Trump. Whistleblower Ciaramella previously worked for Joe Biden when the corrupt Burisma business venture with Hunter Biden in Ukraine was set up.
Atkinson set up the system for Ciaramella to make an accusation against Trump, while keeping Ciaramella’s name hidden. This previously not permitted secrecy stopped the general public and DC people from knowing the background political motives of the claim against Trump by hiding Ciaramella.
The combination of Michael Atkinson’s work in the DOJ-NSD (Page FISA warrant), and the work he then did to set up the fraudulent CIA claims against President Trump (with Eric Ciaramella), stands as irrefutable evidence of the corrupt and weaponized activity by the Intelligence Community Inspector General. This shows how the IC is corrupt/weaponized.
The cherry on the proverbial corruption cake happened when ICIG Michael Atkinson helped construct the fraud against Trump; he then turned over all the fake whistleblower evidence to the Shiff/Nadler committee. The head of that committee was Mary McCord, Atkinsons former DOJ-NSD cohort. In essence, Atkinson gave McCord another fraudulently constructed set of documents to attack Donald Trump.
The first time McCord and Atkinson worked together, it was to conduct surveillance of Donald Trump and then hide the evidence. The second time Atkinson and McCord worked together, it was to impeach Donald Trump and then hide the evidence.
I hope everyone can see how the embeds within the Intelligence Community are completely political and working diligently to retain and operate a weaponized system. The functionaries deeply inside the mechanisms of the intelligence apparatus are the ones doing this; it’s not just the heads of the executive agencies as appointed by the Obama/Biden administration.
♦ MAIN POINT – The Intelligence Community overall is corrupt – soup to nuts. If the IC was not comprehensively corrupt, someone like ICIG Michael Atkinson could never become inspector general.
Now…. think about everything that stems from the outcomes of the Intelligence Community!! Everything about everything the IC puts into the DC system; everything that creates policy and executive/legislative action is politically motivated and corrupt.
It’s not just about renewing FISA-702 surveillance on Americans, it’s everything.
THINK!
Think about wars, borders, national security, threats domestically, threats ignored/downplayed due to ideological makeup of the IC. Instructions given to politicians, briefings to the President, advice to policymakers, positions of military assets, foreign policy, election security, DHS mandates, border impacts, and so much more.
Meanwhile, the judicial branch defers to the IC on all matters of national security. Think about the ramifications.
It’s not hard to see how fully collapsed our system is once you realize how fully corrupt the intelligence apparatus has become.
Since people keep bashing me for saying that President Trump supports the aid to Ukraine, calling me a liar, RFK voter (?) and accusing me of all sorts of bad things, one more time:
Trump Pushes Ukraine Aid as a Loan With Funding Bill Stalled
February 14, 2024
Former President Donald Trump pushed for providing Ukraine aid as a loan as efforts to approve further assistance remain deadlocked in Congress amid a domestic fight over immigration and border policy.
“They want to give them $60 billion more,” Trump said Wednesday at a rally in North Charleston, as he campaigned before South Carolina’s Feb. 24 Republican presidential primary. “Do it this way. Loan them the money. If they can make it, they pay us back. If they can’t make it, they don’t have to pay us back.”
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-02-15/trump-pushes-ukraine-aid-as-a-loan-with-funding-bill-deadlocked
Trump considering ‘loan’ system for future Ukraine aid
April 13, 2024
Former President Donald Trump is considering a “loan” system for future Ukraine aid if he becomes president.
Trump mentioned the proposed form of funding during his meeting with House Speaker Mike Johnson on Friday.
“We’re looking at it right now, and they’re talking about it, and we’re thinking about making it in the form of a loan instead of just a gift,” he said during the media event at his Mar-a-Lago home in Florida.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-considering-loan-system-future-ukraine-aid
What is it about stating a clear fact about this that gets me attacked by other posters?
Why are there things we aren’t supposed to say?
Was the bill a loan?
No. It was a gift – no strings and biden Admin clear there would be no audits. As Trump suggested extending the aid in the form of a loan puts America in the ownership seat of Ukraine resources that could be used as bargaining chips with EU nations for what ever support Trump would want..
They are “loans” like student loans are. The squatter in the WH can “forgive” them before 1-20-25.
My only point being the commenter is upset at the criticism of his observations when what they passed is not what Trump suggested. And besides, we wouldn’t even be in this mess if Trump hadn’t been overthrown.
Nope.
I am looking past PT very strained public statements…..He does not Support FISA either. I think there is some political play behind this.
Its called a “truncated quote” its like an ad for a movie that says;
“phenominally,..entertaining movie” Siskel and Ebert
The actual movie review says “,.this is the most phenominally nauseating movie we have ever watched, as entertaining as a root canal sans anesthetic!”
Yes, the quotes about making aid to Ukraine, OR ALL FOREIGN AID (which PDJT actually included) in the form of LOANS, are authentic.
However if you look at the whole video, he speny much more time and words on pointing out the the EU is much closer geographocally, presumably has far more skin in the game, and yet is $100 Billion “short” of parity in ponying up $ for Ukraine.
And yes, its tactical/strategic; rather than directly saying ‘No $ for Ukraine’ which gets him the Putin puppet of the year award, he bypasses that by effectively implying he has “no problem” with$ for Ukraine, but then reasonably demamding, out of fairness that the EU “pony up”.
Bottom line is the EU countries were persuaded to support this disasterous poke the bear move, in part because of assurances the U.S. would foot the bill.
They will balk at ponying up $100 Billion, giving PDJT a legitimate argument that “Well, if EU is much closer, and presumably more threatened that the U.S., and THEY aren’t willing to at least match OUR $ commitment,…WHY should we put in more?
Yes, and if you read all the other articles related and his TS posts, he made it quite clear that ‘THEY’ were going to fund Ukraine anyway, so why not do it as a loan.
The article above is a Bloomberg article that left out a lot of that.
Those “other” commenters included me challenging the context of those words, the situation and the omission(s) by the author or that article.
Sure is funny how we are all allowed and encouraged to debate, but when contexts or meanings are disagreed upon, some claim victim hood of being personally attacked.
How very leftist.
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Thank you, such an on point comment
My view is simply President Trump is playing for time. He doesn’t want Biden sending troops to Ukraine because it would make it far harder for him to fix the problem. Also it was reported he had suggested that the money paid back from Ukraine would go to the wall being built.
If it comes down to a choice whereby we either send our tax dollars
to Ukraine or my three grandsons get drafted to fight over there
(or anywhere else), you must know which one I would choose.
The wives & mothers in Ukraine are paying ⬆️ of 10K to smuggle their sons out of the country. I would do the same.
You should hide your grandsons and not let them go
I think that Johnson visit to Mar-A-Lago was FORCED ON HIM, he didn’t want it. It showed in every strained, inauthentic statement he made that day!
So who forced him into it? Which of his traitorous lackeys did it?
His suggestion of a “loan” was to counteract the concept of a “grant”.
May have been sent to entrap Trump into support for Ukraine?
Yes, Mike may have delivered a threat, maybe the vote for aid to Israel was tied to the vote for aid to Ukraine. And if Trump didn’t go for it, AIPAC would pull their funding?
Anything is possible at this point.
So the choices are:
Give Ukraine unlimited funds from the USA taxpayer with no expectations of being reimbursed.
Give Ukraine unlimited funds as long as they agree to pay it back.
Deny Ukraine any additional funds.
Since PDJT is not in charge of the House what is he supposed to do? He cannot write the legislation. However, if he did then he would make the penalties of not repaying the LOANS immediate and painful to Ukraine.
Somehow he manages to make deals that are in favor of We the US Citizen. But Mike McJohnson did not ask PDJT for advice on verbiage of the “deal” because they do not want success they way PDJT wants success.
But seeing how PDJT manages to grab everyone by their noses and gets them to agree to his term lets me know that HIS LOAN would not be as stupid as the HOUSE LOAN. We know what lying scumbags they are.
You are creating a false equivalency between a Trump Loan and a Lying Scumbag House Loan. They would have very different terms.
Excellent!
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Trump wouldnt give them a dime if he was in the WH. All the BS would come to a screeching hault.
He knows its a hoax and the Club knows he knows so our President has to pretend not to know things to keep them guessing. Playing the hand hes been dealt.
He also knows now the pandemic was fake and he was set up. So dont talk to me about warp speed now.
Money to Ukraine is how Cindy McCain got her diamond necklace! These pols gotta rot in Hell!
He did say it. No getting around that. However he met with Orban after that and Orban was convinced that Trump would not give any more funds to Ukraine.
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Why is it so difficult for you to understand that right now is not the time for Trump to take losing positions “on principle” and antagonize people he needs to get elected.
(Aside from which, a “loan” characterization might be viable while also leaving Trump later with options.)
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really
your knickers in a knot
because of one issue?
going to stay home
or vote for?
Trump would have never gone down this road to start with. Making a big deal out of “What would he do now?” is unhelpful.
You painted this a something different than his intention. He’s still all for ending the war.
President Trump, as well as most voters, are not given the facts
in order to make informed decisions.
There is a difference between aid that is a gift paid for by tax payers and a loan. A loan is not a gift, it is to be paid back. I would expect some kind of collateral put up on a loan.
Ukraine got a loan that the usurper in chief was given legislative authority to “forgive.” And he will.
You’re not lying! President Trump was in a tough position. He needs the few Jewish Republican Billionaires to fund his campaign or else he will lose. Biden is raking in hundreds of millions from Leftist Billionaires like Zuckerberg.
You never ever see 404 country to pay off this a ” loan”…will country called UKRAINE be even on the map..3 , 6 or 9 months from now ….. or we just will do what brandon do it now in Syria – steal oil ????is this “price ” for VSGPDJT to get back to WH..2025..????
PDJT is playing for time, as another poster suggested.
He is a very smart man, he is playing for time hoping to win the election, so that The Demon FJB, doesn’t commit troops on the ground, thus ww3.
For posterity’s sake, I never criticized your posts. Those who have discerning minds always look at both sides. And allow other viewpoints. Not all of us always agree with PDJT, however, he is the only bulwark I see against these evil SOB’s. For his rare mistakes, I forgive it. Its politics, and Im pretty sure he has learned some tough lessons. Sometimes you have to say things you dont agree with, to keep the demons and liars at bay.
That is my take on it anyways.
https://www.unz.com/mwhitney/trump-sold-out-his-base-to-shovel-95-billion-to-ukraine-and-israel/
Classic. Arrange to get his kid appointed at the Naval Academy, and then screw the American people because he doesn’t want his kid to face armed conflict. These people are compromised, corrupt, and self-serving.
Accurate translation. I’d rather shovel out my septic tank than get downwind of the likes of Johnson.
I prefer to have the septic tank pumped out professionally, if you get my drift.
B-I-N-G-O!!!!!
May these SOB’s rot in Hell!
The implication that he’s fine with 500,000+ Ukrainian boys killed is another frightening aspect of hiding behind his son.
How very Joe Biden of him to do that…
I have a son in the AF. The mentally deranged lunatics running our country just got awarded $100B for LOSING WARS.
Lets see,…didn’t old Joe get Hunter into the military, before he got kicked out for being a cokehead?
Hmmmm,…
…..and deadly.
Shades of mcstain with his Admiral father and grandfather….Bottomless pit of corruption
Don’t forget Haley and her soldier boy.
A kid of any politician (or any prominent person) would never face armed conflict, unless…. 🤔
Do they still mandate poison death shots in the armed forces? If so, the danger of armed conflict is pretty much a moot point.
It might be mistaken, but I think they dropped the mandate.
IIRC, they were even trying to get some of those kicked out to return, but I can’t remember exactly.
It was rescinded in February 2023 after Congress forced them to drop it.
Not sure. I’m retired USMC and have lost taste for all things government. It was in DC that it became abundantly clear the abhorrent levels of ineptitude, fraud, waste, and abuse that exist at the strategic and operational levels of the USG. Most importantly, I became convinced these people (elected officials, political appointees, Fed gov employees, etc.) hold the American public in loathsome contempt. Thus, it wouldn’t surprise me if the jab has now been included with the legion of other jabs. If Congress gets us into a war, Johnsons’s kid (indeed, any kids of those who vote for war) should be immediately sent to Parris Island/San Diego for follow-on orders as an E-3 to a Marine rifle battalion.
Johnson was duped by the false alternative: war was not the only other option. What a fool he is.
I think we underestimate the constant pressure these people are under. I’m not saying Johnson should be excused for flip-flopping…. but there is a lot of power and money on the table with these decisions – and with that comes constant pressure in different ways from different people.
It’s not easy to hold the line in that environment… which is why Trump is just special. Rand Paul as well… Ted Cruz on some days…
$60B for Ukraine and crumbs for the Border….. I’m not gonna give anybody at all a break on that. It’s a crime against the country.
Yeah, no breaks.
If theycan’t handle the pressure, GTFO they have no business being there.
As for Rand and LOL! Cruz?
Are you,..kidding me?
Again, get out of here, they are both hoors.
Oh, there was money for the border all right. Money going to NGOs to continue funding and facilitating the invasion of our country. Mike Johnson made sure to get extra money in the bill for that.
That is just BS, they are all cowards with no fortitude to stand up for what is right.
Solzhenitsyn from his 1978 Harvard address:
“A decline in courage may be the most striking feature an outside observer notices in the West in our days. The Western world has lost its civil courage, both as a whole, and separately in each country…
A decline in courage is seen to be the beginning of the end.”
How prescient as we see that 99% of our elected reps in 2021 are cowards and we are at the end of the end.
Good times create weak men. Weak men create hard times… we are here.
Draaggin6: Yup.
If he is too weak to withstand the pressure, then he doesn’t belong in that line of work. Maybe he should look for another job.
If he is too fearful that his son may have to go to a war zone somewhere, then maybe he should have counseled his son to not go to the naval academy.
I have more respect for people who are fearful of losing a child in a war, but whose trust in an Almighty God helps them to be prepared to sacrifice for the sake of their country IF it is God’s will. I also respect and honor those who have lost children in a war and still do not lose faith in either God or their country.
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More likely he’s more concerned about his son’s “future career opportunities” than being in a naval battle! If the latter were the case, his son wouldn’t have gone to a military academy.
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But in either scenario, he put his child’s future interests over that over the entire country.
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I wonder what applicants his son beat out for his Congresser recommend…
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That would be priceless to know. Who exactly and what were their merits compared to his son’s, particularly if there was someone fitting a DEI category that actually had more merit.
Good question.
“It’s not easy to hold the line in that environment”. If they can’t stand the heat they can sure as hell get out of the kitchen. Whether it’s easy or not, it’s the right thing to do and that’s what they’re paid to do. I’m starting to seriously doubt whether anyone in DC has any integrity and I hope they prove me wrong, but I like my odds.
“This effort and his son starting at the Naval Academy is what changed Johnson’s mind about allowing the U.S. intelligence community to have his full support in the IC war against the American people.”
The US Naval Academy, aka Annapolis, where his son will be immersed in Wokeness, CRT and LGBTQ soup and will come out an enemy of America if he, like father, isn’t already.
“To put it bluntly, I would rather send bullets to Ukraine than American boys. My son is going to begin in the Naval Academy this fall. This is a live-fire exercise for me as it is so many American families,” Johnson told reporters.
Problem is Ukraine can’t win even with all the money in the world. They will run out of bodies. The longer congress is complicit in funding the demise of Ukrainian boys and men, the higher the odds American and European boys will be sent there. This U. S. regime wants war so they will not negotiate to anything other than absolute victory, which is not possible without American and European bodies. President Trump is the only hope for a negotiated settlement and the fourth branch will make that very difficult.
Whether he knows it or not Johnson is admitting the war is no threat to America. If it were a threat to America he would support our military personnel involvement, including his son, because responding to actual threats to the homeland is the reason we have a military.
To try and stop the disaster is difficult and risky, and the IC and the people behind the IC will ruin you or try.
Therefore the goal for politicians is to allow catastrophe bit by bit so:
a) they can enjoy the party and the power today;
b) they can stretch out their own enjoyment as long as possible; and most importantly
c) “hot potato” style, job #1 is making sure they don’t reap the consequences of their actions and those before them.
That includes whatever it takes to have a bolthole for when “slowly at first” becomes “and then”
The more interesting story is why the handlers let them do this incrementally. “Cui bono” or, since the root attitude is materialist, determinist, Crowleyan, “to what end?” If the intent were to beat Russia then at the beginning a full commitment would have been made; if not US troops then of all materiel as needed. Therefore, beating Russia is *not* the goal, no matter what pretending words come out.
If winning is not actually the goal, then what is, and to what end? Cui bono?, and what in turn does that effect or enable, in concert with what other efforts? AFAIK “the goal” is to do to “the West” what was done to Russia by Reagan, which is to have it spend itself into collapse. To what end?
At the same time the people who are doing this are also creating, encouraging, facilitating mass migration. To what end?
Speculation is that the goal is to create a compliant population for some new order but, again, AFAIK, this new population is even less amenable to control than the old and, per its own statements, intends to take over and be quite contrary to the humanists. So maybe not that, unless we speculate that the people who are running “the West” ragged are also idiots. So if not that, cui bono?
This is not just a thought exercise because only if you know where the other guy is going can you intercept him or be there first. “4D chess” is abused as a term so think fencing, or boxing, which is more accurate anyway since this is all real-time and the other team doesn’t wait for us to take a move — nor should we.
Very observational.
It appears the goal is indeed collapse of the US Bloc.
Ukraine and now Israel/ME add many more billions to US debt, deplete US weapons, and further turn the rest of the world against the US by the sanctions and soon the outright seizure of even more Russian assets. Ukraine also weakens US Bloc NATO and EU.
The illegal flood over the southern US border will have no power to challenge the wokeism, they are dirt poor labor with heinous elements mixed in. It appears the goals are slave labor plus more destabilization and chaos, as well as a pipeline for fentanyl and foreign adversary agents. (The voter effect may be real, but largely a Limited Hangout, this is only one of several vote rigging mechanisms in play.)
Cui bono: Who benefits by collapsing the US Bloc? The answer is found by looking at that coming end state:
US Bloc reduced to vassals under a new “multi-polar global governance” administered by UN/WHO, with the center of power in the new global industrial/STEM engine with a “benevolent partner” face.
You connect the dots. First have a look at The Art of War by Sun Tzu.
Exactly my thought, always present in the back of my mind. Russia started out with at least 4 times the population, so it’s a simple inevitability that hte longer it goes on, the less likely Ukraine will even survive as a country, much less win.
they will never ever pay off a loans…….
Neither will we, the way we are going.
The money comes back to grease the palms of the politician, Zelensky gets his cut too! F… Ukraine! Nothing but a laundromat!
In some respects, this is a replay of WW2 in Europe. Lend Lease gave both the Brits and the Russians the tools they needed to stay on the battlefield with Hitler’s legions. The Ukrainian version of Lend Lease is what we are dealing with here. In both cases, the hope is that the second team will bleed the enemy enough to make our timely intervention decisive, and at minimal cost. Unfortunately, in WW2 this worked out well for us. How well? Compare our casualty figures in the European theater with Russia’s.
We (note the Royal “We”) did not win WWII. Soviet Russia won WWII. And Russia will win this war with “Ukraine” (NATO) too regardless of what the U.S. does.
It’s a toss up between cynicism or sinister. I wouldn’t put it past Johnson to lie to add to his bank account. But I also wouldn’t put it past the IC threatening to orchestrate a false flag if the bill didn’t pass
bribery and threats/extortion are allowed by the usic.
if you do it, you go to jail. unless you’re in congress, then it’s just more blackmail material on you.
“Johnson became increasingly convinced the fate of Western democracy was on his shoulders“
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
increasingly convinced fate Western democracy shoulders
Or more likely he was told his son’s acceptance to Annapolis would be revoked…
Edging American closer to WW3 to “protect” his son is piss poor logic. Better that 500,000+ young Ukrainian men should die, eh Speaker Johnson?
Nobody other than Trump pushing for peace. Just more weapons and more death.
“Your son is so brilliant and has excellent prospects for an awesome career! It would be a shame if something happened to change ALL that…”
Meanwhile, they’re partying down at the MIC
As if any sentient adult in the world couldn’t picture that all by him/herself. He wasn’t “persuaded” except by however they weaponized on him in some severe fashion. Threatened. Or bought.
Both probably.
If I was Mike Johnson, I would get someone from my caucus to agree to be my shadow. He would go with me everywhere, see who I see, hear my calls, read my mail, from morning to night. I would never be alone with another person, my shadow would be there. Johnson needs take precautions against getting set up.
If I was Mike Johnson, I would adjourn the house for the rest of they year so everyone could go back home and campaign. That would put a stop to all of this.
Unfortunately, you ain’t and he won’t.
A vacant Speakers Chair, however accomplishes the same thing.
No Speaker, ALL other activities, hearings, committee work, and most importantly work on passing legislation, even in the Senate …STOPS and nothing happens until a new Speaker is seated.
THIS is the only way that this most desirable outcome can be achieved, and if Gaetz and the Freedom caucus were genuine, its the coarse they would have persude from the beginning.
Its how the minority makes their voice heard, in Congress.
Right
I do miss that Chair
the fascist state will eat you alive.
And tell me once again how voting fixes this.
I’m sorry but the whole system needs to burn to the ground.
This country is cooked until people start to realize there is nothing left saving in this current system.
Voting for PDJT in the next election (2024) is crucial on many levels.
Firstly, given the tools for cheating which have been taken from them since 2020, even THEY have serious doubts that they can steal it.
Mostly, they are utterly dependent on SUPPRESSING our MAGA vote, and they have no way of knowing, ahead of time how successful that will be.
Sure, they WILL stuff as much as they can, but they can NOT overcome our overwhelming superiors #’s by stuffing; hence they are dependent on suppressing our votes.
Now, you say “tell me how voting fixes this?”
Tell me,..WHATS THE HARM,? WHAT does it COST you, one more time into the breach, to vote for PDJT in 2024?
And, if you agree in $ and effort it costs you very little, and if you recognise they are dependant on suppressing OUR MAGA votes,…than what the F are you doing, posting a comment that can only be designed to discourage MAGA from voting?
HERE HERE!!!
To add to this, even when we vote in RINOs they at least slow the bleeding. Because they are forced to at least give us the little victories. That buys us time. Putting Trump in buys us way more time because he takes the little victories and fights hard for the big victories.
In the mean time it’s Us who need to be getting many wins locally on social topics that then Turns the ship.
Once they are in, we refuse to remove them and many of them essentially die in office, see McCain, McConnell, etc. I can handle one term with a D to replace a McCain.
And I believe this coming from a former LEO, IIRC.
And who do you think will be there to pick up the ashes? You and your “likers”? Sorry, your approach is misguided.
Would you want someone saying you should die because you might have lots of medical issues and aren’t worth saving?
Our country is not beyond fixing. The whole system is not beyond repair. Number one is that YOU are still able to post your opinion here no matter how extreme it is. Do you want that “burned to the ground”?
Comments like these are meant to cause disruption and chaos and are typical of people like Ray Epps.
And finally, I’ll tell you how voting fixes this. Whichever party has majority in state legislatures and Congress controls committees, legislation, and investigations. You’ll never be rid of the RINO’s that disrupt this control but it’s sure a lot better than the left having total control. If you want Trump to be successful, given another chance, he needs his party to have control. Much better chance of Trump changing a RINO’s mind than a leftist who truly wants this country burned to the ground.
If for no other reason, no matter how hard you have to hold your nose, you must vote republican up and down the ticket, to support Trump. It is your duty.
One thing I have noticed is that none of the players, elected or unelected, in the IC/deep state running the country mentioned by Sundance is his posts like Mary McCord, Michael Atkinson, Jack Smith, Norm Eisen, Andrew Weissmann and the Gang of Eight have denied anything Sundance has posted here that I’m aware of? To me that’s interesting if someone was lying about me I would make my case but that hasn’t happened? I guess they don’t want to acknowledge Sundance by giving him any credibility or publicity? Or the Truth is hard to deny away? Just wondering?
Good point.
First step, ignore.
When too big to ignore, discredit and persecute.
When to big for that, embrace but co-opt.
Steps by which an establishment deals with a subversive element for $500, Alex.
They’re lawyers.
Think like they do.
If they refute publicly and Sundance brings the receipts publicly, their credibility is shot for the world to see. Or, Sundance can sue them for defamation and that brings a legal thing called “discovery” which they don’t even want done. 👀
If they sue him for libel, defamation, etc., not only can Sundance bring the receipts, but it still brings “discovery.” 👀
Those PsOS don’t want no part of that. 💯
And, yes you are correct. Their silence regarding Sundance is pretty much tantamount to guilt of their illegal actions.
Can’t believe Mike Johnson revealed when and in what branch his son is entering military service; especially in regard to this issue of surveillance
He’s an idiot, he’s always been stupid, and there ain’t no cure.
And he is SO far out of his rather shallow depths, its pretty pathetic.
🎯 (figured you were jonesing for that)
I don’t believe that this is the sole reason Johnson flipped on Ukraine. MTG said Mike Johnson was compromised. Madison Cawthorne was kicked out because he said he was invited to an orgy, and that D.C. was filled with such events. Mike Johnson is likely to have been stupid enough to get caught at sex party–even if he wasn’t doing anything but shaking hands.
Remember The Godfather Part II? How a Congressman went to a Corleone-owned brothel, was drugged–and woke up beside a dead prostitute? Those kinds of “parties”.
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A brave man stands up and says “this is what I did, it was wrong/stupid/whatever, I’m sorry etc.”, and outs the blackmailers. People forgive.
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Totally agree if it is blackmail.
But what if it is a threat to the physical safety of a loved one? That could be a hard thing to decide then.
“Nice family you have there. Would be shame if something happened to one of them (with a devious smirk on their faces).”
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I dunno… in some respects, a threat might be easier to out. Depends. I suspect carrot-stick approach coupled with a lot of psychologically sophisticated persuasive techniques
(and lies), and threats not clearly implied.
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Two inches from your face as they lean into you…
Go public with the threat
Name names and everything and anything
I am fairly certain that if McJohnson continues giving $$$$ to the “right people” his son will fly up the ranks in the US Navy. His son will have a stellar career and meet all of the right people. He is set for life.
McJohnson has set his family up so well that they may never have to worry about the future unlike most working American citizens.
“We have a lot of bad judgment in my family… My son, who is over 40, just joined the United States Navy. He’s about to be sworn in as an officer.”
–Joe Biden
“It was the honor of my life to serve in the U.S. Navy, and I deeply regret and am embarrassed that my actions led to my administrative discharge. With the love and support of my family, I’m moving forward.”
–Hunter Biden
Biden’s son fails drug test, is discharged from Navy
“Biden, 44, was discharged from the Navy Reserve in February. He has worked as a lawyer, lobbyist and managing partner at the investment firm Rosemont Seneca Partners in Washington. He was hired in May to join the board of Burisma Holdings, Ukraine’s largest private oil and gas producer, and be in charge of its legal department.”
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/10/17/hunter-biden-drug-test/17427857/
I thought that after age 34, you’re too old to join.
Did Hunter do basic?
Hes a good boy, just got misled is all, didn du nuffins.
I hear he has apologized to Biden for rolling his eyes during the state of the disunion address.
Dont see how its possible to be that detached from reality.
Yep, and Biden said it was ok.
The best part is this’ll make no difference at all, save delaying the inevitable.
The Russians will have considered the possibility of a zombie Ukraine.
Kept artificially alive, until they break & dismember it, and so will have planned accordingly.
60 billion won’t spawn new Ukr troops, material or build them a new electric grid.
It’s just to keep the war going until after the election, so “Biden” doesn’t have an even bigger fiasco on his hands than Afghanistan. Ditto for “his” idiotic Israel policy.
This whole thing smells of blackmail to me. Johnson’s son can have some type of military training “accident” as a warning to Johnson.
Everything is blackmail. Sorry, I don’t buy it. You can’t blackmail this many people and not have something slip out. I can buy Demorats posing as conservatives and getting elected as Republicans, and then outing themselves.
That’s what the RINOs do, too.
magadonian03: I don’t buy the blackmail explanation either. All of these people know what they are getting into as they enter and rise within the political world.
respectfully, i’m a little more cynical than that, Billrla.🥴
nowadays, i think they “rise within the political world” BECAUSE they are blackmail-able.
the party apparatus finds and propels like-minded, but compromised, individuals to electoral victory.
evidence of their misdeeds is then shared with them, and presto, another useful minion is in place.
i’m in illinois, and i remember denny hastert.
not a speck of controversy surrounding his tenure, a whisper maybe, but roundly dismissed.
he had a long, uneventful term, eventually assuming the speakership of the house.
he was then taken out quickly and relatively quietly when no longer useful,
but the point is that the dirt on him preceded his election.
he knew what he had done/was doing, but still took the offer of power anyway.
so you’ve got a point that these people are probably personality disorder afflicted also.
nowadays, i think they “rise within the political world” BECAUSE they are blackmail-able.
This is where my thoughts have been trending also.
Just add a few to blackmail-able
“because they are… ditzy/incompetant, greedy, gullible, brainwashed, narcissistic, dementia-ridden, desperate or could be a fundraising poster-child for the party.”
Proof of point: Hastert, arch-pedophile (little boys).
Without doubt, everybody knew. Knew for years.
Concur, except I suspect that funding for Israel: survival was the desired outcome and that Ukraine: corruption was their price.
May his days be few…Psalm 109:8
Not just verse 8, the whole Psalm!!!!
If Johnson couldn’t get the whole loaf, bargain for half. If that still didn’t work, bargain for the ends.
Don’t leave the table without something. You’ll eventually starve.
Johnston and Pompeo = Axis of Perfidy.
Hunter Biden, Burisma pals tried to enlist help of Secretary Kerry’s daughter
“In the summer of 2015, Hunter Biden and his longtime business partner, the now-convicted felon Devon Archer, already had an ace connection to then-Secretary of State John Kerry: a third partner in many of their Rosemont Seneca ventures was Christopher Heinz, the secretary’s stepson.”
https://justthenews.com/accountability/russia-and-ukraine-scandals/hunter-biden-burisma-pals-tried-enlist-help-secretary
Hunter Biden Firm Rosemont Seneca Invested in Firm Tied to Ukrainian Biolabs
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/03/breaking-exclusive-hunter-biden-firm-rosemont-seneca-invested-firm-tied-ukrainian-biolabs/
Was $61 Billion really just to cover US Military aid given to Ukraine over the past six months?
US Media already admitting that Ukraine can’t last more than a few months longer!
Zelensky asking for more $$$ to fund BIG UKRAINIAN advance in 2025!
MIC doesn’t seem concerned about Biden’s reelection chances. Willing to sacrifice Biden if Ukraine falls before November election.
Alex Mercouris and Alex Christoforou have a very informative and entertaining discussion today…
Ukraine will see probably 10% of that money, it is going into the weapons industry to come out as campaign contributions. That’s why the big number and the big push IMO
Dear Sundance, could you possibly do a deep dive into Chief Justice John Roberts and his wife, and their association with The Knights of Malta as alleged in the following article?
Roberts was made Chief Justice by George W. Bush!
Knowing that both George H.W. Bush and Henry Kissinger were made British Knights, if Chief Justice Roberts also has loyalty to the British Crown, then we’ll have further confirmation that the British Oligarchy are the true Puppet-Masters pulling the strings of D.C.
Supreme Court declines to hear Kari Lake voting machine lawsuit
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4611220-supreme-court-declines-to-hear-kari-lake-voting-machine-lawsuit/
John Roberts and the Knights of Malta.
https://aim4truth.org/2020/05/21/justice-john-roberts-screws-inventors-wife-screws-everyone/
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1993-12-01-mn-62855-story.html
https://www.orlandosentinel.com/1995/06/14/queen-to-make-kissinger-honorary-british-knight/
Teddy Kennedy was a Knight of Malta…..
“Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious People. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”
We now have the government of any other.
This is part of the plan: make a war that cannot be won. The military contractors, weapons companies, etc. make tons of money. Spread some of the wealth to the members of Congress who vote for billions of taxpayer dollars to “fund” the military contractors, weapons companies, etc. RINSE, REPEAT.
There is not a sliver of a hope that the US can win this war. This has been known for months now. The Ukraine army has no air defense system left, as that was destroyed by the Russians.
Ukraine has no young men left to fight the war. They keep increasing the age limit to take more younger and older men, just like Nazi Germany did at the end of WWII.
The US government is completely broken. We are living in a totalitarian dictatorship in which opponents of the regime end up in a gulag or losing everything they own trying to defend themselves in courts of law which no longer dispense justice but dispense punishment to regime “opponents.”
The only thing not broken about our country are the vast majority of the American people who have awakened and see the degree of corruption and criminality in all our “elected” leaders. (probably most of them have been “selected” by ballot fraud).
Welcome to the Banana Republic of the USA.
We as a people have no choice but to break with our government and begin again, just like the colonists did when they broke with the monarchy of Great Britain. We will need to unite and fight to bring back a representative republic with a small federal government with limited powers, and we will need to put all the criminals at the head of our government on trial for treason. That goes for all the people involved in the IC throughout every government agency, and it goes also for Biden, Obama, Bush, and Clinton all of whom were either outright criminals or committed treason or both.
There will need to be new checks placed on the role of Congress. Right now people in Congress HAVE NO INCENTIVE to vote the interests of their constituents. I believe that once these people have committed ballot fraud, it means they are elected not by the choice of their constituents, but by virtue of crimes they committed. The only incentive these people have is to please their billionaire donors. This will have to end.
Everything about DC is broken: the entire federal government is a 5th column operating in the interests of globalists and banksters who do not care one single bit about Americans. Americans are going to have to start over from scratch.
The progressives (Wilson, FDR) built this Leviathan, and conservatives and moderates will have to rebuild our Republic out of the ashes of the monster that progressive legislation built.
There will need to be repeal of a great deal of legislation all of which has been passed in order to turn our country into a totalitarian state.
I call it the Soviet Republic of Calimexistan.
This is where the United Banana States of America are going…
..unless we all get together and fight it out. ( Meaning no more jokes about California’s nuts… mostly from ignorants and trolls ).
Seriously… a nice showdown that doesn’t affect property values.
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Johnson, he’s bought out. Those were not “intelligence briefings”… those were presentations about an “offer he can’t refuse”.
eve,
Close, however your excellent summary paints an orderly picture that is a little wishful thinking, IMHO.
WE are not simply going to assert control, and begin nice,,orderly trials for treason, because firstly they control every aspect of the process, and secondly knowing thats wgats coming they are NOT going to yield that control gracefully; WE are going to have to TAKE IT, it wasn’t a neat and orderly process, when our founders did it, and it ain’t gonna be THIS time.
Actually, perhaps the collapse of the Soviet Union is a far preferable model to contemplate, rather than the American revolution?
It was also messy, but not nearly as,….wet.
Why does anyone think this tyranny will change anymore than Peking or Havana would change? I don’t see it.
We are living in tyranny just like any other country and pretending.
“Mike Johnson Apologized To Biden For State Of The Union Eye Roll”
ProTrumpNews
But I couldn’t find anything on if he shined Herr Biden’s shoes.
Johnson is a DemonRat! Give me a break, my kid may have to go to Ukieland and fight.
10 million plus came across the border, where do you think the fight will be, Johnson?
DC criminals, the first place to see the big bombs drop and then no more DC. What is left a bunch of Rats hiding in holes, thinking look we survived in our Rat holes.
That would be the final outcome of Russian and USA soldiers fighting in Ukraine. When one side is beyond loosing off go the big bombs!
Initially those who imposed Johnson wanted us to call him MAGA Mike. 🙄
I’m going with World War Mike.
I like to call him NO JOHNSON- JOHNSON
Who WAS it, that imposed Mike on us,,rather than just continue to block Republicans getting enough votes for ANY Candidate for Speaker, thereby effectively shutting down Congress and any legislation?
Oh, yeah Matt Gaetz and Steve Bannon.
meanwhile – chalk up another bad debt expense to the saviors of democracy.
Larry Nassar victims to receive $138.7M over FBI handling of case – ESPN
Allow me to summarize: Johnson’s a weasel and a wimp.
I saw the headline on this article and for once I already knew what Sundance told us.
Mike Pompeo was/is a bad dude. Really bad. He steered Trump wrong and is a disgrace to our country.
And the dummy keeps sending me emails…. He’s a Christian (more like Judas) and a conservative. Sure.
Make sure this article gets widely read. If he had any class, he’d go away quietly.
The following quote was by someone on X yesterday. I’m apologize but did not get who quoted or the site I got it from but the summation seems pretty accurate.
”You think your mad about the Ukraine money now?
Wait until they lose the war (they will) and make a peace deal giving Russia what it wants (they will) and then the scumbags in Congress send $500 billion or your money to “rebuild Ukraine”.
Write that down. It’s coming.”
I think the surprise for Congress aka Blackrock will be that Russia will not leave any of Ukraine for the West to “rebuild.” Would you?
So Mike Johnson’s “intelligence briefing” consisted of an IC thug explaining that, if Johnson had any intelligence, his conservative ideology would have a brief existence, and he would be further intelligent to an attractive offer to enhance certain personal financial holdings; next he would be further intelligent to avoid the “unfortunate and accidental” release of certain personal information regarding his private life.
That would be briefing no. 1. The second briefing would explain how sad it might be for something to happen to Johnson’s family should he not get the point of briefing no. 1.
Sounds suspiciously like the “Chicago Way,” if you get the drift.
“Johnson became increasingly convinced the fate of Western democracy was on his shoulders”
There isn’t an eye roll in the known universe big enough for this…
I agree….the little twerp has delusions of grandeur.
I saw something about the Bible (aka God) told him to fund Israel, I see our Mike is trying to hold on to the Evangelical crowd.
Hes trying to remove himself from his post to be replaced by a radical leftist.
“To put it bluntly, I would rather send bullets to Ukraine than American boys. ”
Thats a frickin’ lame answer, but what do you expect from a lame congressman. I dont believe we are under any obligation to send either one.
“American boys’ should be all 57 American genders. DIE demand it.
And more recently, Johnson received a key intelligence briefing from CIA Director Bill Burns, who painted a picture of the dire situation on the battlefield in Ukraine…
More likely they cut him in for a piece of the action.
Take the money or end your political career, Mr. Speaker.
And once he touches that money they own him…..for life.
“I would rather send bullets to Ukraine than American boys” says Johnson. How about neither?
Johnson has flipped his wig.
See U NEXT TUESDAY. That’s all he is.
Nice Naval career your son’s got going there Speaker, hate to see anything happen to it. Ya know?
And how many deserving young men, did this one push out of the way?
Do we know if it was an “appointment to Annapolis”? Or just the average tuition paying parent, for their offspring?
Asking for a friend…
President Trump says go with Johnson (until after the election?). PDJT has better situational awareness than I do. Makes the ( adult me ) decision easy. It is going to be a long six months.
Every current politician has a price. The IC found Johnson’s.
Why Kari Lake will never be allowedto win her election for U.S. Senate, for $500, Alex.
Because, like PDJT she has demonstrated she can not be bought or compromised, at any price.
regardless of all the excuses, we hired them to do their job
the American people do not want our tax dollars going to Ukraine
or most anywhere else for that matter
charity should begin at home
This. This is what happened to change Johnson’s mind. Lobbying. By another name than Pompeo. Which does involve his son. But in a different way than offered above:
https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/loeffler-campaign-staff-member-kemp-family-friend-dies/OLPRRAIMKNAPZPRJA2GYRIHFMU/
https://www.investmentwatchblog.com/the-gbi-agent-reportedly-assigned-to-gov-kemps-daughters-boyfriends-mysterious-fatal-accident-has-committed-suicide-in-georgia/
The Deep State is the mob. And as the mob it does contract hits and leaves dead fish in boxes on doorsteps to send messages. Like this one when the case to investigate the fraudulent Georgia election of 2020 was still supported by its governor and leading R’s. Which, not so coincidentally, was shut down after this dead fish was put on their doorsteps.
It is, in fact, very much like the Mafia. Organized crime, arm-in-arm with the entire system of government at their disposal. Impossible to distinguish between criminal family and political, corporate family. All-one. I submit to you and all for your consideration that the world is being run by criminals in a manner very similar to the National Crime Syndicate, the Commission, as exemplified in the Apalachin Meeting, and its various cinematic portrayals like in The Godfather, Goodfellas, Analyze This and others. This, the Apalachin Meeting of crime families divvying up the loot from their criminal rackets is probably the closest approximation to what our local, state, federal and international governance is like:
https://ganglandwire.com/apalachin-meeting-part-1/
And whenever new leadership takes over a state legislature or congress they get a visit. By a couple of big, persuasive gorillas in expensive suits. Envoys from The Deep State. The System. The Visit. And are told that The System will protect The System. With any and all means available to them. Family, friends, associates, nobody near them who they care about are safe. Even a daughter’s boyfriend. Becomes a dead fish message. They are given a choice: play ball and live a life of comfort and open doors for all they love, be a “made man,” protected. Or become a target.
We ask a lot of those who are put into leadership roles to face down The System. For us, we have expectations that they will rise to the moment, pledge their sacred honor, all they know and love, to the nation and freedoms we know and love. We imagine we would resist. Because if not us, then who? We know we can’t leave it to our posterity.
But if we were in their shoes would you/me be able to have the conversation with all who we know and love and tell them that our decision to stand against The System may result in their deaths? Our own children? Spouse? Siblings? Friends? And would they all consent to their possible murders by the Mob that is our own government, regretting that they have but one life to give for their nation? Who among us makes that decision if in leadership? And what would your family have to say about it?
This is the horrific reality of why Johnson and every single leader who stands up to the Deep State caves. Unless they’re DJT. In this reality the job of Patriots is to figure out how to protect those who dare to stand against a Mobster Government without constraints? In sufficient numbers and strength to prevail? How? When no part of the entire system is able to help protect them, the Mob controls every lever of power. Courts. Police. Media. Banks. All of it. Until we have a plan for that we will get more and more of the same.
It’s certainly plausible to me that Mikey was likely caught up in one of the FBI’s entrapment schemes and the evidence was presented to him…
Its tradecraft, and its not like that, generally.
In the movie “Snowden” they showed the ‘work’; Snowden established contact with a Middle Eastern banker.
In doing database searches of his 15 y.o. daughters facebook and email, they ascertained she was involved with an 18y.o. boy that was an “illegal alien” so they pulled strings to have him deported.
Monitoring the girl, including via her laptop camera, they arranged to intervene when she attempted suicide, endgendering dads gratitude, and “going through this difficult time TOGETHER, building a bond.
Then, they took him out drinking, got him too drunk to drive put him behind the wheel and called the cops to get him busted.
When he called them, they of coarse used their influence to get him out of jail, and charges dropped.
They now OWN him, and when they start to ask him for little favors, which compromise him, he WILL of coarse comply,..howcan he not for his savior, his guardian angel.
And once he starts he is compromised for good, and they may never even HAVE to point out to him that he is compromised, he KNOWS they have compromising info on him, he doesn’t need to be reminded.
Very similar to how the Fan Belt inspectors develop CI’s, its “Tradecraft”.