As a precursor, I am suggesting to all site admins (Ad Rem, Stella, Menagerie and Weed) that we begin instituting stronger commenting moderation controls; not to limit speech, but to eliminate distracting agenda voices. The reason for this is simple, I can see “control operatives” on these pages.
It’s not hard to see because they, some might call them online trolls – I prefer to think of them as DHS compliance officers, all use four basic elements of construct that are not usually visible amid our openly honest community:
- They pretend not to know things.
- They are arbitrary in the extreme.
- They are capricious and combative.
- They are intellectually dishonest.
Time and communication bandwidth is at a premium for me. You will soon understand why in this tech space of my geography, it is more efficient to communicate publicly.
Now, with eyes-wide-open, let’s address the nonsense within our fellowship. Train yourself to see this stuff, and you will develop a level of instinctual awareness that will drive the DHS folks bananas.
[As a general baseline, RFK Jr. is an intelligence community asset and operation. All of the assembled data points in this direction. In short, the RFK Jr. tradecraft is visible; start from that assumption, and everything makes sense.]
Pay attention to what KEITH writes. Note the arbitrary, capricious and intellectually dishonest framework.
“To get the Nunes memo declassified, both President Trump and Devin Nunes used the leverage of FISA-702 reauthorization to force the IC to declassify it. If the ODNI, FBI and DOJ did not agree to declassify the memo and make it public, then 702 would be allowed to expire, and the IC would lose their currency”
Trump should have just ordered it declassified. He was the president after all. He didn’t have to placate the ODNI, FBI, and DOJ. If anyone in the leadership voiced an objection Trump should have used his trademark phrase “You’re fired!” on them.
RFK is right. Trump should not have reauthorized FISA 702 but he allowed people around him to manipulate him into capitulating to the deep state. That was the root of Trump’s major failings as President. He never was able to put his hands on the reins of power. Would Trump do better in a second term? Did he learn his lesson? I don’t think so after seeing him commend Speaker Johnson at Mar-A-Lago on the “good job” Johnson was doing just hours after Johnson cast the tie vote to re-authorize FISA 702. (Comment Link)
Keith may be new, or Keith may be acting intellectually dishonest as part of his pretense. Regardless, all of these issues have previously been covered in depth on these pages; therefore, I view Keith as the latter – intentionally dishonest.
{GO DEEP (problem) and GO DEEP (solution)}
There is no entity outside the Intelligence Branch, and yes that includes the President of the United States, who can supersede the classification authority of the Intelligence Branch. {Go Deep} and {Go Deep} This is something 99.9% of the people on our side get totally and frustratingly wrong.
No one can declassify, or make public, anything the Intelligence Branch will not agree to. Doubt this? Ask Ric Grenell, John Ratcliffe, or even President Trump himself.
• The classification process is determined inside the Intelligence Branch, all by themselves. They get to choose what rank of classification exists on any work-product they create; and they get to decide what the classification status is of any work product that is created by anyone else. The Intelligence Branch has full control over what is considered classified information and what is not. The Intelligence Branch defines what is a “national security interest” and what is not. A great technique for hiding fingerprints of corrupt and illegal activity.
Similarly, the declassification process is a request by an agency, even a traditionally superior agency like the President of the United States, to the Intelligence Branch asking for them to release the information. The Intelligence Branch again holds full unilateral control. If the head of the CIA refuses to comply with the declassification instruction of the President, what can the president do except fire him/her? {Again, GO DEEP} How does the President replace the non-compliant cabinet member? They have to go through the SSCI confirmation. See the problem?
Now let me move on to DHS officer ACE TWITTLY:
“Trump has reauthorized Sec. 702 of FISA when he was President and Nunes has just recently co-signed a letter encouraging the Congress to reauthorize Sec. 702 of FISA again.
They are all playing us.
And by the way, the Sec. 702 is not a problem; a total lack of accountability certainly is. Nobody prevents the government from prosecuting the intel. contractors and firing people at the FBI for the unauthorized use of the gov. databases. They just don’t do it.
The judges could sanction each FBI lawyer for lying to the court. Did they do that? No, they didn’t. Why?
It’s a big corrupt club… and they all hate us.” {Comment Link}
Again, notice the elements of intellectual dishonesty, arbitrary and capricious commentary pretending not to know things.
Nunes did not “recently co-sign a letter encouraging Congress to reauthorize Sec. 702 again“. Genuine Treehouse readers know the letter that Mike Turner lied in the construct of a letter, apparently the letter cited.
[Source]
If the 702-reauthorization bill that passed the HPSCI committee vote is as bad everyone says it is (which it is), and if the bill completely ignores the reforms that were suggested and advocated for by Kash Patel and Devin Nunes and others (which it does), then how does Kash Patel reconcile his former boss Devin Nunes supporting the bill per Mike Turner?
The reconciliation to this dynamic is found inside the issue I have written about.
Mike Turner is lying about the support from John Ratcliffe and Devin Nunes for the HPSCI FISA-702 reauthorization bill. Ratcliffe and Nunes do not support the Turner construct.
But wait, if that is true (which it is), then why are Ratcliffe, Nunes, and by extension Patel, silent about Turner’s false support claims?
The answer…. Institutional preservation of the HPSCI compartment, and a desire for access therein.
Yes, that is correct. They will rage against the outcome of the institutional endeavor, but only so far as the value of the institution itself must be maintained. Ratcliffe, Nunes and yes, Kash Patel are functionaries of the system. Their sense of identity is dependent on the system.
The CIA director, NSA director, ODNI, FBI Director, etc are not in charge of the compartments they represent. They are simply functionaries -middle men- who operate in the space between where the compass points are directed, where the data originates, and oversight of that data that is ultimately filtered and delivered to the functionaries, who then brief the representatives…. who then create policy… albeit flawed policy…. based on a very specific, controlled, compartmented and skewed information flow. (more)
The value of Kash Patel’s institutional currency is connected to his access – even with Republicans in charge. The same is true for Devin Nunes and John Ratcliffe.
The institutional leadership, those functionaries in control of the compartment (silo), can block access to the silo thereby devaluing the career currency of other functionaries. The DC preservation system is contingent upon this process being retained.
Nunes, Ratcliffe and Patel will not speak honestly about the Mike Turner outcome – specifically as it relates to the conniving manipulation therein (ie. it’s a f**king lie) – because they would run the risk of being ostracized from the HPSCI compartment from which their value is determined.
The institutional corruption is retained, yet they rail against the outcome of the institutional corruption. See the game?
If this were not the case, Mike Turner would be directly confronted, the lies and manipulations exposed, and a very serious battle would take place publicly.
Unfortunately, that public battle is viewed as too risky. As a result, the corrupt DC functionaries operate without any accountability, no corrective action takes place, no accountability is metered out, and WORSE…. the oblivious general public cheer on the people like Patel who give the illusion they are railing against corruption.
For those who choose denial and pretending over the brutal reality of the example expressed, your criticism of me is irrelevant. The truth exists regardless of your comfort level.
Accepting you are an abused victim to professional gaslighting, manipulation and Machiavellian deceit, carried out by those who claim to be your allies, is painful and unnerving. However, failing to accept the reality of the example cited only retains your status as a victim, a codependent enabler, a battered conservative.
It is a remarkable dynamic. Many people can see how the functionaries played against President Donald Trump this way, but they cannot see how they, themselves, are continually being played.
In Twitter File release #8, the basic outline showed how the U.S. Department of Defense (DoD) and U.S. State Department (DoS) worked with the social media platforms to amplify messaging and create specifically anonymous government accounts intended to spread propaganda globally. [Twitter File Release #8 Here] The government then asks the platform engineering side to boost the messaging of the government accounts and use the internal tools to promote government users. Essentially, social media propaganda.
There is no reason to believe this effort was/is limited to Twitter. Additionally, now they have AI to assist along with 1.1 million previously dormant defense department IP addresses to activate accounts from.
Stay frosty!
I completely agree with Sundance’s assessment of RFK jr.
On every subject other than corrupt intel and fed LE agencies and Big Pharma and its fully captured “regulatory” agencies, he’s as liberal (statist) as you can get. The only person he’s going to hurt at the polls is the Manchurian Candidate.
the Manchurian Candidate?
He’s beyond shameless given he knows the people he works for killed his father.
RFK jr is disrespectful intentionally. I could never figure out WHY he is running for president. He’s a trap for conservatives, especially women. As much as I dislike Hannity, it was great when he called him with all of his lies
RFK jr is a one issue candidate for the wish washy Republicans. The vaxx.
For the rest he is a Democrat as good as it gets.
Good point.
A fool’s foil.
As I basically mentioned once before, he’s a Kennedy. That’s enough to alert my BS radar.
Agreed.
Praise God, Sundance, for directly laying out the Truth, as ugly as it is, so we can see with clarity. Thanks to you and your staff for clearing the tangled paths dishonestly laid. Your clarity and gifted writing research aids my 82 year old mind to dodge their many deception pits laid before us. Blessings to all.
We think alike
Rush Limbaugh used to do bits now and then on how to spot “seminar callers”. That’s what this post reminds me of. I generally look for patterns.
You’ll see them using similar buzzwords like “open air prison” or a group of them will show up touting RFK Jr. like we’re supposed to forget he’s a KENNEDY…usually knocking Trump on the vaccines.
Notice how lately you’re seeing less talk about the vaccines generically and more about “operation warp speed” when nobody really used that term much. When the government party thought the vaccine propaganda was working, they didn’t want Trump to get the credit. That’s what a coordinated information operation looks like, and it’s intended to drive a wedge between Trump and his supporters. Hence the specific appearance of operation warp speed in Conservative Inc. controlled media.
Other “seminar posts” are like drive-by shooters. They’re usually way off topic and borderline unintelligible. The kookier the post, the more likely it’s an op intended to discredit everyone. That’s a big strategy used by the IC. If there’s a true story floating about, release 2-3 kookball stories that get “debunked”. When the true story surfaces, people who don’t think hard assume it’s another kookball story.
You can tell when they have “gotten the memo” the subject matter or the phrasing
is the same..President authorised the FISA renewal..it like with the new media same
when the all “get the memo” with the same talking points…you can tell…
Agree.
As SD has said forever, once you see it, you can’t un-see it.
Even a mangy cat with a brain transplant.
This is where my ‘burn it all down’ mindset comes from.
There is no viable way to reform or fix any of this. They are entrenched so deep in the system.
The ic, mic, courts, congress…. all of them. Top to bottom.
They are all just maggots, feeding off a dying leviathan. Grasping and struggling to get just a little bit more money, a little bit more power.
It’s disgusting. And I think it is unfixable. Not that we should not try, we have to try.
If only there was a political/governmental equivalent of a pesticide that only targets a certain class of pest.
Afterwards, there would then be a massive cleanup of pests but the shell of the gov would still be there.
Use what’s still needed and sell off the rest of real estate to America First enterprise.
I agree. Have been reading Sundance for many, many years but usually there is only so far I can go before his in-depth analysis leaves me befuddled. The whole thing feels like an unsolvable puzzle mired in mud late at night during a torrential downpour! I too think it’s ‘unfixable’ and that the Constitution failed so the nation needs to go back to the drawing board, probably by first dissolving the Union.
Glad I’m not the only one who feels befuddled at times. I don’t see how Sundance keeps it all straight but I’m glad he does. Without his in-depth analyses I would be a lost ball in the high weeds.
The Constitution has not failed! The corrupt people in our illegitimate government have failed to uphold the Constitution. The founders said this republic would only work with a moral people. We no longer have moral people. That is not a fault in the Constitution. It is a fault in the people.
That’s a valid opinion. Let’s hope you guys can get it back then!!
Read this latest from Paul Craig Roberts:
“Clearly, these are not normal trials or normal charges. The law schools, bar associations, Congress and the whore media don’t even raise questions about the show trials that clearly constitute election interference. As I have said many times, the system will not permit Trump’s return to office.
Americans need to understand that their country has been stolen from them and that the ruling elite are not going to permit Trump to give it back to them.”
https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2024/04/16/democrat-prosecutors-judges-and-media-are-interfering-in-the-november-presidential-election/
He also has a recent 3-part series about how regulatory changes have almost guaranteed the wipe-out of most citizens’ assets in the near future:
https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2024/04/16/the-great-dispossession-part-3/
This man was Under Secretary of the Treasury and knows his stuff.
I think if things are really so bad that they must be burned down, then the best is for mass withholding of consent, similar to what happened in Russia in 1991. The people just refuse to participate any more and demand the government and leadership step aside. The problem is that America is now a hidden oligarchy/plutocracy/kleptocracy so just getting the official leadership to step down might not change anything.
There are no easy answers, but violence generally is not a good foundation for making a better world. It IS a good foundation for creating Hell. Exhibit 1: 1920’s Russia. I pray nothing like that happens to the States but this summer is going to be a major test for the Republic with crime running rampant and a leading candidate for President most likely being found guilty and possibly sentenced to jail, not to mention many of his supporters.
‘They’ want violence to erupt. And yet if We the People don’t find a way to resist, we/they will become the proverbial boiled frogs, only fighting back when it is too late.
Trump is now on trial with two people whom he chose to associate with, Stormy Daniels and porn star, and Cohen is ex-lawyer. He has a bad track record with people – like most in his administration. Yes, there are explanations etc. but the facts is the facts. I think he could be a fantastic President but he lacks support from the ruling class who are going to ruin his next Presidency even if he is permitted to win it again. The man has children and grandchildren so is vulnerable to pressure. They clearly don’t want him and refuse to treat him with respect, honour or lawfully. Ergo, he should back down. (And he should NEVER have agreed to campaign as a Republican but rather formed a bona fide Third Party.)
But if he chooses to keep fighting, then he better win. Do his supporters have a plan? Is it known? What makes anyone believe that he won’t be continually demonized, attacked and hobbled, always on the back foot, always playing defence? That’s what’s been happening for years now isn’t it? What basis does anyone have to think it will change?
Respectfully sir I see the agents of the regime in the comments calling for armed revolutions and hanging people and such more so than the subtle and devious examples you cited. Like they’re trying to seed the comments with calls for violence.
I tend to agree with that , but “the hanging traitor so ands so from the nearest tree “or “ sighting through a scope” .. seem to come from established posters very often – Those comments are not helpful , gratuitous, a distraction and do not add anything – and the upvotes for such comments do not serve to enhance the character of the thread …. just an observation …helpful or not ?
i am sickened by comments like that. i’ve never served in the military, much less actual combat, but i listen to podcast of those who did (John Stryker Meyers SOG podcasts are excellent) and they have convinced me that acts of violence are THE LAST THING I want to participate in.
BTW, this is why I knew J6 had to have been an OP because for all the DJT/Freedom rallies I’ve attended, violent anti-police behavior was contrary to all of my experiences.
I’ve spoken to very few, practically none, combat vets who enjoyed or even felt at all positive about killing their fellow man; that included my father and uncles in WW2 and friends in Vietnam. I see it as normal. Most peaceful people, by far, find the taking of human life to be repulsive.
However, our Republic was founded upon the exercise of violence, against both military and civilian collaborators, and we’ve had plenty of wars since, plus skirmishes like the Battle of Athens. Would those groups have preferred to find a peaceful method to resolve their conflict? What do you think?
Can we talk about that?
Can we talk about the government poisoning and killing us?
It seems, so far, mostly, we can discuss our fellow citizens being maimed and killed by the enemy. Thats OK.. Yes?
We can discuss many issues far afield from the thrust of my point, but I’m not going to. I think I made myself clear where I stand and to call violence in today’s environment a last resort is to give short shrift to last resorts.
I take precautions against acts of violence towards me and my family, or any innocent citizens for that matter and given the right circumstances, train myself to use them. That said, I also have thought long and hard about the actual consequences of such acts. I think everyone should give thought to what measures they are willing to take and the consequences thereof.
In what way was my response ‘far afield of your point’?
I believe it directly addressed it. It covered soldiers, killing,, violence, and discussion of such topics and also alternatives like peaceful resolution. It asked questions and showed a mind open to answers and opinions.
It also addressed the topic of this thread, an entity arbitrarily deciding what we can and cannot discuss freely.
I’m no debater. I spent my decades as a grunt building the country, with my hands. I’ll leave high minded debate to others. My missions lie elsewhere. Enjoy the discussion here, as it may be. I expect I’ll find myself participating less and less over time. When I go silent, the enemy will have no idea what I’m up to 🙂
my post was in regards specifically to me and my current position towards violence in today’s circumstances. you raised the topic of our founding and other matters, ie, “Can we talk about the government poisoning and killing us?”
those topics would involve a great deal more discussion, a discussion, if i had it, would only be comfortable for me in person. asking questions is the easy part, replying in type written responses requires a lot more time and as my brain works far faster then my fingers so i don’t like to engage in topics that require writing out responses, that’s just me.
Glad you made that most approprite response.
So are you a ‘ Nearest tree ‘ type poster or just an upvoter for the same ? Do you think points made Demon Slick , not Comey , are valid – Does having revenge fantasy or analogies here serve a purpose , despite history and heritage ? Does it make you feel more fulfilled ?
If you have never experience “war” I congratulate you and believe you may have a clean mind/memories. Go in peace brother
Thx Bill, I came of age post Vietnam and where I was at as a youngster and the country was at, military service was the last thing on my mind. As I have gone thru an evolution.
9/11 was a wake up and call to arms of sorts which I embraced but my age and circumstances made service a non-starter for me. As the truth has come out about the whole story behind WMD/Iraq war, again, my view of war/ violence evolved. I have a deep sense of regret for my support of that debacle.
So as I sit here today, I don’t want to be the one calling for violence. I don’t want to be baited into hating my neighbors and or even the deluded Libtards in my community. I live around them every day and if the SHTF I want to be helpful to some, harmful to none.
But at the same time, I train, and prepare because I fear what may be coming.
Thinking it’s both, the burn-it-all-down crowd and the subtle seeding in the comments.
There are probably a few other avenues used that we have yet to notice while behind the scenes at this Last Refuge everyone continues to honor ways to give newly opened eyes – so new commenters – room to voice their thoughts, no longer being ‘Mr. Cellophane’ and thus finding their branch:
https://genius.com/John-c-reilly-mister-cellophane-lyrics
Yes, I like other avenues, such as our President’s approach using money/trade to leverage an encourage desired outcomes.
Oh no you are onto “their” game
I tend to flag those. And that includes longtime “popular” voices on this site.
I will say, if Ad Rem intercepted the ‘hang from the nearest tree “ type revenge fantasy posts -and NOT post them at all – they would vanish pretty quickly from this site, as those posters would see that their posts are not going through and would give up trying to post that theme …
Unless something has changed in the last few years, I am pretty sure our Moderators are volunteers.
They have kept this place running thru some very tough times, and from outside attacks almost constantly.
I think they have a dang good handle on things.
They usually give just enough rope……………………..
We have the best Cat Herders on the internet!
Thank you for your comment on comments , and nothing like painting with a broad brush as the saying goes , couldn’t be much broader , but when I’m crowned with Royal Knighthood, and that could be any week now ( see Lifestyle poster … about 7 down ) – I will take your comments to heart and swear on my keypad to follow them…
Which is why many, like me. rarely did post.
You get those who are so very ” informed” making off putting comments to others who have also been around …since Travon Martin. Read the site every evening and just let our minds accept and then do our own research. So as not to be faulted, deserved or not, by those who are…off putting intentionally.
Having been a reader and commenter on this site for a long time, so long that I kind of know it’s personality and have watched how it has changed over time, over time is the key word. I’ve seen the patterns of outside operations and operators, their patterns are not hard to spot, they are outside of this sites personality and can’t pretend well enough to be a part of its fabric.
As for Kennedy, when I first seen him come on the scene it was via an article which showed him, O’Keefe and their girlfriends or wives out on a hiking trip. I question to this day if O’Keefe was used to escort Kennedy across MAGA lines, for after that article Kennedy was being mentioned in a positive light on conservative sites.
Now that Sundance has made it clear that Kennedy is an intel asset, I am hoping that O’Keefe was used by the IC and not something else.
Where I’m a bit confused is if Kennedy is an intel asset, what is his roll? if he runs is as a third party candidate, in my eyes, he will take more votes away from FJB than from Trump. In Kennedy’s kaleidoscope, his anti-vax is just one prism, his younger healthy outdoors looking photo op another prism, all the others plates of glass are hard left. Is he really the FJB replacement candidate? the insurance policy.
This election cycle will be like none before, Mods you will have your hands busy and thank you Sundance for letting us know to expect the possibility that some of our post may disappear, even the post from long time Treepers. I will not take it personally.
my first intro to RFKjr was his commentary on big pharma and vax. i was heartened by his discussion and exposing that. not that i would vote for him but i thought his would be an important voice in the debate. i plead guilty to haven been sucked into influence. he does detract from FJB support so you have to wonder what his/ the see eye a’s play is? personally, i find it hard to imagine FJB holding up till November,
My spider sense started tingling as soon as the media started covering him. After successfully relegating him to Alex Jones status in the eyes of the normals, suddenly RFK jr was literally everywhere practically overnight. That stinks of control agents.
Where I’m a bit confused is if Kennedy is an intel asset, what is his roll.
Rix Six – I have this conversation with myself all the time! I most often come back to his role being to ‘muddy the water’ for post 2024 discussions. Every explanation as to election outcomes by the MSM and nitwits like Clay and Buck will be given through the lens of RFK Jr. being in the race (they won’t need to rely on misrepresenting the anemic Libertarian vote).
For instance, there will be no need to explain why the potted plant failed to come close to 81 million votes. Any Battleground state going to the potted plant will be (right or wrong) attributed to RFK Jr. eroding PDJT votes – likely with an ‘abortion’ spin. We’ll return to the 2020 canard that ‘there were irregularities, but not enough to change the outcome of the election’ because, uhm, err, RFK Jr.
Ughh.
I think RFK’s role is to pull in the disgruntled Democrat and Libertarian voters who are unhappy with the likes of Biden and Clinton. I think that if RFK endorses Biden, he is a Democrat and a deep state member. He was just an act. If he doesn’t endorse Biden, then RFK sincerely wanted to run as a third party candidate.
I think there is no difference between the Democrats and the deep state. They are one and the same, and all against MAGA.
I think it helps to remember the goal of the Uniparty, for 2024 is to insure PDJT does not win.
They don’t care WHO wins, so long as it is not PDJT.
And, those for whom ‘politics’ is a career, think, plan and scheme 4-8-12 YEARS ahead.
As soon as DeSantis won his first election as Gov. of Florida, they began positioning him as “Americas Gov. of the Free State of Fla.” IN ORDER TO be the alternative MAGA candidate, for the 2024 Presidential election.
Thats just an example ,…of how THEY think, and how we don’t.
That plan for Runt began before he left the House.
He ran for Governor to fulfill that long term and thankfully doomed plan.
Does it matter what his roll is?
The players come onto the stage, make their gambit, and quietly leave, some to reappear later on, others simply using up their 15 minutes of fame.
Once we are able to see the strings, move on. It really doesn’t matter the backstory of whatever bit player is put before us if we are to stop pretending. Am I wrong?
Sounds right. I didn’t know this guy existed until he’s all of a sudden a presidential candidate. Maybe his bank account needs a boost.
Perhaps the Globalist plan is to siphon votes from Biden so as to ensure a Trump victory, and then collapse the economy so that Mr. Trump is left holding the bag?
Or perhaps the Globalist are sure that their own puppet will be Mr. Trump’s VP pick, and that once Mr. Trump is elected they will eliminate him, and that would install their puppet automatically?
I’m of the mindset that RFK’s role is to complicate the election, muddy up the waters so to speak. Since we already know that they’re rigged, I can see a third party candidate making their theft easier to attain and harder to investigate. Every vote taken away from Trump is a win for the Marxists and every vote cast for Kennedy can be flipped to Biden if need be. It allows them to capture votes from voters who typically vote D but cannot bring themselves to vote for Biden.
Anything he takes away from PDJT its still something especially since they probably cheat again. I’m hoping 2024 election doesn’t come on time for a major disclosure to come. Sorta
O’Keefe – if you mean James O’Keefe – founder of Project Veritas and then expelled by Project Veritas – would this be an affirmation of RFK, Jr. being an “intelligence asset” (whether he knows it or not – if we are to think he is not aware of that) – would O’Keefe’s escorting of RFK, Jr. across MAGA lines be O’Keefe’s assignment in return for not being prosecuted regarding the Ashley Biden diary? Aimee Harris and Robert Kurlander going through prosecution and punishment, but nothing happens to O’Keefe? That has seemed odd to me that O’Keefe and now contemplating his role with re to RFK, Jr., would that have anything to do with why he is not also being sentenced?
Furthermore, could the whole thing about Project Veritas expelling O’Keefe have been part of the process of inoculation? Part of the original deal and even if the RFK, Jr. angle was going to be part of the deal back when PV expelled O’Keefe?
I realize this topic is not the central topic of this thread but I am glad to see a possible explanation as to why James O’Keefe is not being prosecuted regarding the Ashley Biden diary but Aimee Harris and Robert Kurlander are getting the full treatment.
Was the Ashley Biden diary recognized as such a thermonuclear PR threat to Biden and company that this series of events occurred: Project Veritas gets raided, Project Veritas expels O’Keefe, O’Keefe is seen with RFK, Jr. – hiking – RFK, Jr. announces his campaign, O’Keefe is enlisted to “bring RFK, Jr. across MAGA lines”?
“Curiouser and curiouser” as Alice said . . . or “odds bodkins” as one of my Grandmothers would say (putting it as “ODDS” bodkins as in “what are the odds of that happening?”)
link to my Twitter comment – kind of an unwieldy comment on my part, just wanted to have the chronology of events, saving the info for future reference down the line as we observe new developments as they occur with O’Keefe as well as RFK, Jr.
https://x.com/suejeanne/status/1779588223653888508
Interesting thoughts SueJeanne.
When I try to unscramble all the connections… I just get so grossed out that so many people are conniving that I don’t want to go down any more rabbit holes.
I have been aware of RFK Jr for decades. Not sure how people have missed his environmental activism, but I grew up in a non Kennedy household and am in my 50s so I chuck it up to being in a political family myself. Never been a Kennedy fan. My dad did get a bit nostalgic when Teddy passed away, but at that time he was reminiscing about his own political heyday and approaching death.
Kennedy fired Dennis Kucinich, boy Mayor of Cleveland and my former congressman. His current campaign manager is his ex CIA daughter in law with zero elections experience. Kennedy himself is formerly heroin addicted.
I find it totally bizarre that instead of trying to save lives, Kennedy sat upon all of his vax info to publish a book.
Your comment has really generated a great discussion! Thank you.
There are many here that are suspicious, in my opinion. Some actually believe that they’ve been crowned with Royal Knighthood and that they are the biggest boss in town.
We have our crew here on the threads who claim special insights into people’s comments. One apparently had a “GI Joe: Psyop Ranger” doll as a kid and they now are clairvoyant in their ability to detect trolls.
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There are 2 in particular, who seem to have anointed themselves as the Gate Keepers here.
I wont name names, but anytime you disagree with them or say something that goes against their thought processes, they call you an IC asset or a troll.
Happened to myself twice recently, and I laughed it off and carried on.
Like many long time posters, once in a while I say something that others dont like. Tough nuggies. I speak my mind and thoughts. Disagreeing with others is not a crime, but this one in particular, is always on me, whenever I post something they apparently dont like or agree with…..
Next time that happens, Ill call them out, and ask them who the heck they think they are.
If your name doesnt have an Admin beside it, you have 0 right to attempt to censor others thoughts by insulting or accusing them of playing for the other team.
Well stated Bob! I’m sure we are probably thinking of the same self-anointed homie! 😂
Agree 100%. It is very odd.
How do I get crowned with Royal Knigthood ? Be part of the RoundTree ( as in ..RoundTable …get it …bad eh ? ) – I’m only a squire aspiring for the RK status but I hear it comes with armor to withstand the barbs and arrows of the lesser , underling envious posters …
yet another gut punch. (but then gut punches inform you that you need more work on core strength)
it’s disheartening to learn just how deep this criminality goes and how so many are 1. willing, 2. feel compelled, 3. are forced, to play along with the game. Make no mistake, there are grave consequences to exposing the reality of the 4th branch. I’m sure SD could attest to that. For me, it’s frustrating as hell.
I have 2 overriding thoughts this morning.
1. Seek the Truth and the Truth will set you free.
2. Live Your Best Life.
and remember Who your Redeemer is
The late, great Rush Limbaugh used to talk about “seminar callers” who were trained activists. They were taught techniques to fool “Bo Snerdly” into letting them speak with Rush on air, for the purpose of spreading their lies on the show. Rush and Snerdly became very good at sniffing out these deceitful creatures and keeping them off the air. I applaud Sundance and the site admins for their efforts.
I still miss Rush. Those 3 hrs of the day have been a void that I’ve had to fill.
He was a national treasure, and like many of us out here, I miss him terribly. He called a spade a spade, and never, ever, pretended not to know things.
He was a straight shooter, and for that, he was hated by the left, RINO’s and IC.
He and SD have that in common. 😉
I loved listening to Rush as well……but he had nothing on Sundance when it came to the nitty gritty. He was late to the game when it came to PT but Sundance …if I recall correctly was one of the first on the Trump Train.
As usual, we need to be reminded of the reality, turn over the pretending, stiffen our resolve, note EVERY detail. I want to thank Sundance for your continued determination to always reflect the truth to those of us who follow. I do not know the pressures you are under. I only know, I am smarter, wiser, and more prepared than I have been…because of your hard work. God, Almighty, continue to reveal these evil plans of humans to this person we call Sundance. Fortify him with strength, protection, wisdom, stamina…the kindness and love it takes to boldly expose the evil powers and bring receipts, as well as resolutions. Thank you, in Jesus’ Name. Blessings.
Excellent piece. This is one to save and reread occasionally to remind ourselves of the reality of things.
On topic, but off topic, I came across a great little book called Straight & Crooked Thinking by R H Thouless and C R Thouless. A 2011 major update to the 1930 original. Well worth the read and a welcome sanity check. ISBN 978 14441 17189
This is EXACTLY what Bill Barr was saying, PROTECT the INSTITUTIONS, not the American people. The institutions are ABOVE the people, not controlled by the Constitution or the people. SAD, SEDITIOUS and TREASONOUS!
The institutions of govt. are the new god.
Until the true God acts how can you blame them for thinking they are the new god.
“Keith may be new, or Keith may be acting intellectually dishonest as part of his pretense. Regardless, all of these issues have previously been covered in depth on these pages; therefore, I view Keith as the latter – intentionally dishonest.”
He just has a different opinion.
When it comes to declassification I think Trump was way too soft.
When it comes to personnel I think he is far too swayed by his own personality. He thinks he can win over people who hate him (see McConnel, Mitch for a noteworthy example).
We must place our faith in God not men. If God intends to use Trump as a divine instrument never forget that it is God’s will causing it. We must not get it backwards.
You are running the risk of turning this place into an echo chamber–if it isn’t already.
No one is infallible, not even Sundance.
Debating REASONABLE ideas can make your position stronger if you are willing to listen to them. Countering them can sharpen your argument if nothing else.
You need to read BOYD by Robert Coram, btw. It will help you learn to look at things with a fresh eye in ways you’ve never considered. Sun Tzu was a noob compared to Boyd.
This is political Maneuver Warfare we are engaged in now…
Having a different opinion isn’t really the problem. It’s HOW you are spreading your different opinions that’s the crux of this thread. Sundance is, indeed, not infallible but in an honest world he certainly would have won a Pulitzer Prize at this point.
Since Ive been a reader poster here, SD has been wrong once, that I know of.
1 time. 😉
He admitted as such, and moved on.
HE deserves much more than a Pulitzer. IMHO. He would make a great President. That being said, he knows too much, that would never be allowed.
I can also remember when he was wrong one time. Heck, nobody is infallible.
Interesting phenomena, n’est-ce pas?
Like those people that cannot compliment Trump without first declaring him flawed.
Really? Tell me who was the last president who had control of the IC or even the MIC? Frankly, they haven’t had control of even the less important agencies for a long time.
Beyond the issue of the IC having no oversight or authority above it with the ability to do anything about it (which you have to be purposely obtuse to deny), all federal agencies are converged and the managers and staff are mostly fellow travelers so they do what they want to do based upon their ideological allegience.
Rush used to point out in the BO years that he did not have to tell agencies to do certain illegal or agenda driven things – meaning his and his appointees fingerprints would never be there – because the fellow travelers knew what they should do without being told.
Again, read Boyd. Maneuver Warfare is the precise instrument to defeat these people, something Col. John Boyd (and to a lesser degree, Lt. Col. Douglas MacGregor) excelled at within the Pentagon among other places.
Trump believes in his own legend too much sometimes. He also lacks that killer instinct his enemies possess in spades. Trump is basically a nice guy with a transactional world view. But one cannot negotiate with terrorists. I also do not see evidence that he’s learned this lesson, so go ahead and ban me, too I guess.
Have you read anything written by Trump? He’s been known to wait DECADES to initiate revenge on someone who has screwed him over, and he relishes it.
The other thing that has always stuck with me about Trump was his statement that sometimes he will make deals, that aren’t always getting 100% of what we want, or have aspects that are the antithesis of what we expect, but given the circumstances and those involved, he would always negotiate the best deal possible, and that means making concessions when necessary. Sometimes it’s better to have 60%-75% of what we want, than nothing at all…and right now, I’d just be grateful for something as simple as gas going back to less than 2.00/gallon. Or the border shut. Anything. Because at this point, if this continues the way it’s going, we aren’t going to have a country left.
So, just educating everyone else. Never a motive?
There are tons of differeing opinions here, maybe with same basic flavor.
You rendered the rest of your lecture moot with that crap.
You are the one lecturing and spewing crap, so thanks for making my point about the echo chamber.
Just close your eyes and the bear can’t eat you.
/sarcasm
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Trump didn’t get where he is by kissing up to people. He endorsed MM and many other “mistakes” for a reason, just like he allowed the Resident to live in the WH these last 4 years. Right now several games are being played, Exposure , Stay out of the Way While the Enemy Destroys Itself, and, Wake Up the People before it’s too late.
Isn’t a difference of opinion based on the predicate facts/sources one is relying upon to base one’s opinion?
Frankly, in all opinions Sundance espouses, I pay deference to them because he has sources and on-site experiences that I don’t have. That’s why I acquiesce to his factual findings. Even if his final opinion is just based on his suspicious cat’s feelings, even those are internally based on sound facts even if the final opinion wasn’t.
I work in a ministry where leaders chosen to lead have to be “teachable”. Although there are many characteristics one would consider in a person one’s recommending, if I haven’t witnessed them as a ‘teachable” person for the 8 months under my tutelage, I will not recommend them for leadership.
I equate that concept to commenters who think they know more than Sundance. I don’t think anyone is doing what he is doing and in the way he is doing is. So, any commenter who outright disagrees with the main premise of an article comes across to me as prideful and unteachable. I might read their comments, but they are unconvincing, and SD’s reasons for removing them are a good idea and will help preserve this platform.
That is a powerful insight.
Thank you for that kind encouraging comment from a person I highly respect.
Back atcha Sister!
I disagree with your assessment of Trump for many reasons. After watching every video and speech for 4+ years. Politics is a dirty business. No reason to address your statements
Sounds like you need to go back a few years and read Sundance articles when all the calls to declassify were being made. Many times these documents where held captive under the guise of an “investigation” or threats that Trump would be charged with obstruction of justice. Anyway those articles written in the first years of the Trump adm. may clear up a few things.
Or, go back and look at all of the comments along the lines of “Trump should just fire Mueller and team”, there were many that were either instigators, or just obtuse.
We as a country are screwed
More so than any of us realize short of Divine Intervention.
Thou Doometh.
One of the things I also notice about commenters on multiple sites. Is the distracting comments that attempt to take conversation in a whole new tangent. These off topic subjects riles people up and totally ruins the intended truth of the message.
If we’re on the Presidential thread discussing a container ship crashing into a bridge and someone else mentions the intelligence community spying on American citizens but not Congress people, is this a new tangent?
Amen to Eva Roark’s comment. The information also helps us know how and for whom to pray. Stand fast Sundance. God is on “your side!”
Maybe, Kash Patel needs the FISA 702. He and his Family were seriously attacked when he wrote his book. Nunes has been with Trump since he
alerted him about the Russian collusion.
That is a good point to consider. As I know, this is the third time SD has called out Kash over his wishy washiness on confronting the blob (afraid of Mary). Its hard to believe Devin is also forced (?) to let this issue slide. With the trust President Trump has for Devin, It seems there is more to it than just caving in. I trust Sundance most of all, so I will stay tuned for as long as his ISP allows him to post. https://truthsocial.com/@DanScavino/posts/112266629308876060
Sundance, I spout my “rah-rah-rah” for those who advocate pro Republic and citizens’ rights.
(I really try not to be doom and gloom.)
However, I don’t trust anything or anybody until I see evidence through their actions — not their rhetoric.
The conundrum:
How do we stop spies from spying when one must have the spies’ permission to force them not to spy?
Great responce.
So … how is this fixable in a bureaucracy existing within a constitutional republic? If we can’t get the cat back into the bag, then what? Think the answer is self evident.
It’s not. All empires fail. All Republics have fallen. Dictatorships fall.
It’s a matter of time – not just for the US but all countries and/or organized governments.
WOW! Truth Prevails for souls on Earth like you Sundance. May God bless you. Yes I believe Harriet Hageman
is a truth teller with the Armor of God readied. If your awake you notice her right off. You say GO DEEP yes because
that is where evil lives in the dark. ” Truth exists regardless of your comfort level.” There is no comfort
level when your living from your soul. You KNOW what has to be done…. your on earth for a reason.
TRUTH PREVAILS love you Sundance you truly do make the World go around. Peace
Why is it that I am always suspicious of many of the DC Swamp crowd and then Sundance finds out why before I even decide to investigate for myself? This is an outstanding article and I believe it is spot on target.
I new RFK was going to be a big asset to the Fumbler in Chief, and he is turning out to be that. I always believed that Nunes was one of the good guys, but I was confounded as to why he didn’t speak up about that stupid letter to Mike Turner. Now I know how he and many others have been compromised. In Nunes’ case, I had thought he had thrown up his hands and walked away from the whole business he encountered in the Swamp.
Now that Iran has launched an attack on Israel (and admitted it), I am worried that the USA was a part and a parcel of this failed effort. I still can’t even guess why Iran was made an ally of ours when The One was ostensibly our President. I should know more than I do about that, but none of that makes sense to me. But, I know it is part of this whole S**t show. I am reading a biography of Obama and I am 600 pages into this 1078 page volume and I still don’t find any explanation for Obama’s interest in an alignment with Khomeini, but I am reading as fast as I can right now.
ICYMI: Mike Benz explains the Iran connection. go to twitter and find this video: /MikeBenzCyber/status/1711411914629079463
Biden is delusional and demented. A plan like this will help get him where he’s going (eternally) a lot faster
Thank you Sundance.
We have Nunes in charge of Truth Social .
I’ve seen Patel mentioned for Attorney General.
Reports are that attorney Charlie Spies has been hired by the RNC and he has ties to Marc Elias.
My question is how we’re ever going to clean this mess up if we have the enemy camped within.
This is only the tip of the outer layer we can see but then we have those deep within the silos plus people like the SES embedded deep within.
What will it take to tear this corrupt network apart?
Is there no one within the system who can see it in its entirety?
<Reports are that attorney Charlie Spies has been hired by the RNC and he has ties to Marc Elias.>
He couldn’t have a more perfect name! 🙂
Fully agree. But, the creation of the fourth is not buttressed by the Constitution. There in lies its weakness. An activist president could, and should call a with as many as possible and, as the Commander in Chief, strip them of their functions, offices and privileges and place them in custody while an audit is carried out of their offices and communications, to include potential fieldcraft. Might be surprising to find that their extraofficial plots are not limited to the US and it’s possessions.
Remember that “power corrupts” and the IC thinks it has absolute power. Do the math.
SD, you are a diamond 💎! Thank you so much for breaking things down and shining light onto all the workings of the derp state. I’m so blessed to have discovered CTH. God has blessed you with enlightenment and in return has blessed us with you. Thank you for all you do. God Bless You and protect you in all your endeavors! We Go with God! Godspeed. Live Your Best Life, taken to heart💖!
WOLVERINES!!!
Any1 notice Truth Social and comments under anything Trump these days? It’s worse than Twatter ever was! Hello DEVIN where n HELL did u go wrong, Hummm? Why is Trump still supporting this farthing mess? They say he plays 5-D chess n the rest is playing checkers? Well I play both. Just what game are we in now??? FOR THE WIN!!!??? Yes? Sundance you know what I”M talking bout~~how much longer b4 the BIGLY??? 🧐
I’ll share what I did as a. moderator until I was fired for not supporting the Communist narrative after ten years of moderating another web forum with an active political forum. We had very contentious discussions about Covid and the 2020 election and the summer of violence and of course back for years about similar topics.
I looked at the first comment in question here, stating or insinuating that PDJT didn’t do his job to the performance level the poster set for it, and saw an opening for many choices by respondents.
They could debate the premise, argue the facts, leave the post twisting in the wind of silence, and many other choices. I personally wouldn’t have moderated that member *except* if they had a pattern of personal attacks, dragging discussions off-topic, or returning while moderated or banned.
Anyway, that’s what I did as a moderator and administrator. I ran a forum of my own for years on dementia and Alzheimers, something personal to me, pretty much the same way and instructed my moderators in that philosophy.
Good luck!
If comments like those are not called out and identified by moderators, people will assume they are just ordinary posters.
That just leads to more battered conservatives.
You are right, SD. I saw Ratcliffe buckle to the DC swamp in his first term as a Representative and wrote to him about it. Surprisingly he responded. Basically he said he had to play the game to get committee appointments. I understand, but was not happy with him.
I simply do not trust any politician.
Yes, there are trolls and influencers, here. I wish I could block them, but sometimes it is valuable to read what they say. They state “facts” that are actually their positions and possibly their beliefs. It doesn’t make them true. And yes, the President can do more about declassification than is publically stated. The IC simply ignores the Constitution or hides the info from the President when it suits them. This has been going on, since FDR. The old OSS and Defense Intelligence during WWII didn’t tell FDR everything. The swamp has many creatures. Some just stay hidden better than others.
Just another affirmation of the advice from SD’s article yesterday….in order to begin to change this, we must get active on a local and state level, and reconstitute the powers of federalism. Most analyses talk about destroying the ‘head of the snake’ first. But what actually destroys the head of the snake is our actions, from the ‘bottom’ up.
I think it was.gentle readers here who reminded me that all politics are local 🙂
Even if we believe we are secure against the Communists locally, IMO we should always remain vigilant, and that goes far beyond elections and elected office. Every level of the community should be scrutinized.
I’m doing my part right now by creating dossiers on all property owners in the canyon, focusing more on absentee corporate owners who hide behind legal entities. Who are they? What are their associations? Sounds insignificant, right? Well, corporations buy politicians and community bodies to do their bidding and corporations that exist in the Communist incubators in a Communist run state shall be suspect, by me anyway.
What methods do we employ to counter propaganda at the personal level? How do we discern minds which are closed from those which are open? How do we change hearts and minds? What are the most effective speech and tactics?
I have a tough time with this due to being old, skeptical and defaulting to ‘everyone lies’. Perhaps that circles back to the thread topic. What to do?
Is it possible to fix this, to wrest the power away from the people wielding it? It’s horrifying to realize even people like Nunes and Patel are compromised. I hope there is a way, and if so that Sundance will share it with us if it doesn’t compromise the plan. More importantly Trump has to win, and he has to understand what has been explained here.
I’m so frosty I had to put on a thick sweater in 70 degree Texas weather.
Put it on last night as I was commenting on the Trump Rally Thread….twice.
Yikes!!!
Regarding classification process:
Wanting to know under what power of government the (current) process started, I wanted to find out how it could be changed.
(Not saying I want it changed but coming from the standpoint that I’m not keen on the President having to get approval before he can see/show something he wants or makes declassified.)
So, I referred to SD’s link that led to ‘President Executive Order 13526, Classified National Security Information’ dated December 9, 2009. (Obama admin).
Knowing all this now, couldn’t a President write a new EO that supersedes the EO that the Obama admin wrote in EO 13526?
(I must reread SD’s April 13 post about Obama and Holder.)
I think it comes down to the humans who have the information, whatever it is, and how, if they resist, does one get that information?
In times of conflict throughout history, or simply because the information was wanted, humans were tortured physically and psychologically to give up information, as well as being drugged. Our government, and others, are quite adept at such physical/mental/medical torture, and plenty of humans have died as a result whether they gave up what they had, or not.
What to do? I get the workarounds to get the IC to divulge operational information but, even as a grunt, I understand they are both smart and cunning and know the system from decades of experience. If they stall or refuse, what to do? PDJT already dealt with that in the past. Perhaps he’s learned something new.
I think its perhaps helpful to review the espionage act.
Like the inter-related FARA act, it is being wielded with selective prosecution, so that Hillary and her posse (Cheryl Mills, Jake Sullivan etc. ) probably had no fear of being prosecuted for espionage act violations, but Nunes DID, after his post SCIF press conference.
They DO impress, most firmly on all who get a security clearance the potential penalties, and with the obvioys double standards and perversion of the Justice system, people like Nunes and Patel have to constantly check themselves, to make sure they don’t give the enemy any excuse.
His wife hung herself in their barn. That’s a taboo topic, but it was his wife. Too many Kennedys die violent deaths or some nearby.
Why am I not surprised Sundance says he’s an IC asset? Just one more piece that fits in the puzzle.
I remember reading about her suicide: https://www.statesboroherald.com/world/ap-source-rfk-jrs-wife-hanged-herself/ Also:
“…the Richardsons, who maintain that their sister’s suicide was fueled more by angst over Kennedy’s womanizing than by her mental problems. Another Richardson friend concurs. “Bobby knew how to keep Mary off balance,” she says. “He wield[ed] power over her using emotional ping-pong, idealizing her one minute, putting her down, the next. Mary hung on to the positive moment hoping to get another. And if not, maybe she could figure out how to get it back, always striving to please.”
Early on, Richardson began hearing rumors of her husband’s philandering. (“Philandering isn’t a sufficient word,” sniffs Bienstock. “Even he’d cop to that.”). Richardson countered, says a friend, “with unconditional love, constantly protecting, praising her husband.” “It was always, ‘Bobby, Bobby, Bobby,’” adds another. “He was a god.” Even when Kennedy came clean about other women, “Mary justified [it by saying] that he was an addictive personality,” adds a close friend, “with a disease, but in her heart she knew.””https://www.thedailybeast.com/new-questions-arise-about-mary-richardson-kennedys-suicide
Yep. Exactly how I recall the issue. Thanks for this article. Not that I think Jr is going to win, but we don’t need emotional sickos and he has too much emotional serious damage. All the Kennedys do.
Wow.
Thank you for posting.
So sad and dysfunctional. No wonder he is an asset for those to whom SD refers.
President Trump can quietly round up all of the scoundrels in one night and disappear them to a remote, unnamed island, pending trial which can be delayed as it has been for the J6 defendants.
There is no reason they can’t be held in solitary confinement, incommunicado, indefinitely. After all, the same traitors have done that very thing to those present on J6. Trump can use special elements of the U.S. military on grounds of their direct and ongoing acts against U.S. national security and flagrant and numerous violations of the United States Constitution.
There is no need to honor any defense of “due process” because those scoundrels don’t honor any of that constitutional stuff themselves anymore. If you play by their one-sided “rules” in a rigged game, you lose every time. “Due process” is now just for suckers.
If it is imperative patriots STOP PRETENDING, let us not pretend America has fair elections or equal justice anymore. Go ahead and argue we still DO have those things. Make your case. Bring your evidence.
How can any of this be remedied when there is clearly no justice or constitutional guardrails restricting the tyranny of these godless, Leftist, lawless monsters running America now?
You are doing the same thing TWiTTLY did…No, it is ridiculous to say Trump could round them all up and disappear them to a remote island. What planet do you live on? This is ridiculous.
Actually, this (I agree, littleflower) absurd post DOES clarify a major part of the problem.
Yes, in one sense the President is a one man branch of Government, who as CiC has absolute authority over National Security.
On the other hand, he HEADS up the Executive branch, which EXECUTES or enforces the laws.
But, President Trump doesn’t direct traffic, or make traffic stops, etc.
He is dependent on his staff, and so insulated by many, many layers of beurocracy.
The scenario Gnome suggests would never happen, because such orders would never be carried out.
I’m so scared and confused. Who do we trust?
God, and your intuition.
Glad to see this Sundance, Ad Rem, Stella, Menagerie and Weed.
This discussion board is the best on the net because of all you folks, your tireless work, and eyes wide open.
A giant Thank you.
This made me realize, I have been so self absorbed, I have not hit the donate button for quite some time.
That will be rectified today.
You all are crushing it, rock on!
In a prior life my career was working with politcians, state legislators. One of them decided I was too effective at preventing his proposal from becoming law, a payoff to some powerful supporters. He was an immature man, had idea he could attack me through the media and get me out of his way.
I had my own power base, and while the unexpected media spotlight was unnerving I knew he was lying and had his own vulnerabilities. As the glare of investigation intensified I had two legislative leaders pull me aside, one R, one D, and tell me I couldn’t tell the truth of him while asserting my innocence. I’ll never forget hearing both say the same thing to me:
“The public already doesn’t trust us. You can’t say what you want to say because we have to protect The System.”
So because the public knows they lie they have to lie more to try to preserve whatever little credibility they have left.
In my defense I went right up to the line of what I could say publicly but didn’t cross it to preserve my career. The episode did manage to provoke the source of his vulnerabilities to go public a few months later and his political career crashed on the rocks of his own creation. Which was poetic justice.
But The System isn’t just in DC. And isn’t just R or D. They’re all liars if they’re in leadership. Those are the only ones who are allowed to be leaders. Think Robin Vos and Dade Phelan. They are guardians of The System. Not truth or good public policy. Or the Constitution they swear an oath to uphold. Their oath is to The System.
They are like the feds in their khakis,navy shirts, khaki balaclavas and ball caps, sort of like clean cut narcs on the ft Lauderdale strip near the elbo room , once you spot them you know
Thank you, Sundance!
Call them out in public.
Yes.
I as one little voice the crowd commend that tactic.
I’d like to give some input on Devon and Nunes, and perhaps Radcliffe: All three of them (and most of Nunes’s staff) were targeted and tracks illegally for years by the IC by the DOJ and IC. They only found out was the statute of limitation was up Google had to notify them. Rod Rosenstein ordered it and FBI and other agencies participated. And they probably tracked phone calls and gathered all data on them of the cloud, data of discussiobs etc trying to find some illegal thing so they could prosecute them. I have no doubt Pompeo was involved being head of CIA and SOS, he engaged and probably furthered the violation of all their rights and positions in gov. Of all that signed the letter Pompeo is the worst, hatefilled, fake bible quoting on twitter probably pulled them in; as if anyone could believe he is a warrior for God.
Sundance I think you have done quite of bit of research on him. I agree with the functionary part, but there may be another reason they didn’t challenge the lies, at least partly. It wouldn’t surprise me if Pompeo threatened them to shut up, or insinuated other measures that would be used against them. I never rule out danger to their very lives. Maybe that is too dramatic. But yes the system has been set up to put functionaries in the place. Why wasn’t Pompea tracked by years in the same dragnet.
Radcliffe made it clear when the agencies would not give him the data to Pres Trump in early december on election cheating. I’m not disagreeing with the basis of your analysis, but I think the letter had something to do with Pompeo’s influence. Once CIA always CIA! I’m just saying they may not have willingly called out the lies of Turner because they were threatened and told to do this.
If they get to keep their functionary position for access at least, during this time, its a good thing right? But Kash, Grennel and others have revealed the plan called 2025 project, that many of the functionaries in DS will be removed, or at least limited and the whole gov will be reconfigured to get rid if many levels of the blockers.
I don’t know enough about the system, so I apologize if I’m wrong. Most of congress is owned by the influence of threats from the IC and any blackmail they have on them. Turner is beholden to MIC and owned by Sequoia Capital, and Nunes had set up the China investigation and when Nunes left, the Committee was head by Turner. The first thing he did was fire LT. Harvey a master of China subversion, and all other aids that had already done a lot on the investigation. Turner downplayed the significant investigation of China and got rid of anyone that could prove the real danger of China in America.
I meant Kash, Nunes and Ratcliffe
“If they get to keep their functionary position for access at least, during this time, its a good thing right?”
I was thinking that also. And, like you, I don’t have the knowledge SD has. But as far as intent goes, their intent may be good for us and Trump at this time.
In this very complicated world, one very hot-button issue – in the case of RFK Jr, it is vaccines – does not necessarily a good leader make.
JMHO
It is very tempting to allow oneself be swayed by single issues. It makes us feel good.
And the PTB understand this about human nature.
Yet the vaccine issue is played up with him because the very people that released it to dump Trump intend to weaponize it against him this election, to assert beyond reason that he always had complete control and understanding all all accountability must fall upon his shoulders.
RFK2.0 is a tool.
IMPO, The Executive should use the full weight of its office and authority to restrain the IC while the legislative holds hearings on the likely violations and excesses since the Church hearings. In order to curtail & hamper the effort to intervene, they could be temporarily assigned as what Japanese business culture calls: “madogiwa zoku”, or Window watching tribe. It would result in no loss of income or benefits, but their access and authority would be temporarily adjusted to the needs of their temporary assignment. This might allow time and space to properly vent whatever rot is to be found.
Video: https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/112253713590367141
His “new”wife is a rabid lefty, pushing him all the way.
“handler”
My prediction: Google unleashes their own Flying Monkeys to discredit and deplatform sites adverse to their interests under the guise of violating Google’s terms of service.
The closer to the election, the greater chances of the minions working for the IC start to infect the comment sections of conservative websites. I have been watching them do it for the last 20 years and now they have their little AI bots to do the heavy work, while the commie regressive trolls take it easy.
People we have a country ending problem from IC and the Bureaucracy of doom. Congress in many ways have made themself worthless.
to untie the Gordian Knot, the public must be made aware of some things that will shock them into some kind of pressure.
things like Obama is an intel operative and has been since entering university or so.
The CIA regularly oversteps its boundaries and engages in domestic activities.
Stefan Halper not only was used to dirty up Trump in 2016 election but had been used in numerous elections before, including 1980 when he stole Carter campaign policy docs for Bush (and Reagan), and 1972 (per Stephen Somma)..
Halper prob had a role in Watergate under the command of his father in law Ray Cline, who sabotaged Nixon bc Nixon was opening China.
Cline may have done the same with JFK in 1963 bc JFK had told Rusk he would open China after the 64 election.
Cline along with Barry Goldwater and other luminaries were heads of the unofficial Taiwan Lobby. They were making $$$ in Asia since WW2 from China unrest and later, through Air America Vietnam and surrounding areas.
Revealing the depths of the intel establishment shenanigans is the only way things can change.
Rick said here: “I’m of the mindset that RFK’s role is to complicate the election, muddy up the waters so to speak. Since we already know that they’re rigged, I can see a third party candidate making their theft easier to attain and harder to investigate. Every vote taken away from Trump is a win for the Marxists and every vote cast for Kennedy can be flipped to Biden if need be. It allows them to capture votes from voters who typically vote D but cannot bring themselves to vote for Biden.”
This comment by Rick closely aligns with my own thinking about the role of RFK Jr in the 2024 election cycle.
RFK Jr is running to facilitate a pre-scripted post-election narrative that the reason Donald Trump lost in 2024 was because Kennedy drew away traditional Democratic votes which would have gone to Trump had there been no third party candidate who billed himself as a true blue Democrat loyalist, but one without Joe Biden’s baggage.
RFK Jr himself has to know that this is what his actual role is in 2024. And, more likely than not, he has acknowledged his role behind the scenes to those who are now in the process of rigging the 2024 election and expects something in return for his involvement.
Thanks for the heads up. I noticed some newbs in the comment section, but did not think too much of them.
I think trolls need to be more subtle here than other places, but here they are nonetheless. That may mean they are the human kind rather than just bots.