Before getting into bigger picture analysis and intellectual discussion about FISA and the 702 reauthorizations, let me just reveal some inside DC crap that drives me nuts and at the same time will help y’all understand the nonsense.
First, the Intelligence Community (IC) tells congress, particularly the House and Senate Intelligence Committees, that all hell will break loose if they don’t reauthorize full electronic surveillance of Americans. Congress is petrified of the IC.
Speaker Johnson and all of the key participants are totally siloed from understanding that 702 has nothing to do with incidental collection of American data whilst the honorable IC were doing foreign intercepts. Johnson and most Republicans believe the IC nonsense. They really do.
The politicians and their key staff cannot fathom how the FBI, DOJ, NSD, DHS and contractors use this database to conduct political and “other” (think corporate espionage for sale) surveillance. They really do think the IC is full of honorable rank-and-file. They are inside a DC bubble.
Second, the IC argument is now something akin to we have let thousands of terrorists into the country through the southern border crisis. They say: “My god, we need to monitor the terrorists, and if you take away 702 the foreign terror cells will activate and start killing us all. Do you want that blood on your hands?” You cannot take away surveillance tools.
Third, FISA 702 reauthorization is used as a bargaining chip by people who don’t want to get caught up in the surveillance.
The DC conversations are something like, “Ok, we’ll reauthorize it, but you cannot use it against us – and all the sex parties and perverted stuff we do when no one is around, you must promise to keep our secrets hidden“… Yes, this is why the IC agree to accept a reauthorization that exempts Congress. The IC keep the blackmail – just promise not to use it.
We The People do not have any friends in DC on this issue. The Democrats will reauthorize 702 to continue exploiting surveillance authority – don’t forget over 10,000 log-in portals with access to the NSA database exist, including the workstation at Perkins Coie that ties into the NSA database {GO DEEP}.
President Trump finally opposes the FISA system – writ large – and THAT is progress.
More soon….
House Speaker Mike Johnson 👇
Deep State movie favorite:
“The Spy Who Loved Me”
Deep State series favorite: Person of Interest. Especially the egregious intrusions of Samaritan.
That was a good show.
Loved that show. It inspired me to get a Belgian Malinois.
Excellent – Jim Caveziel was stellar.
Best TV series ever. A few years back, I mentioned it to a friend who works for DHS. His response was, “If you only knew.”
Don’t forget the big tech platforms that create this data. The big tech platforms are the source of the nsa database and they are full of ic and fellow travelers. Communists, anarchist, perverts, freaks, spies, foreigners who hate America and satanists and that’s on a good day in San Jose
Theee are millions of hostile people who have this data
They don’t just passively spy
The steal and cheat and profit massively
Ever wonder why you lost a contract or don’t get a promotion or a job?
You are blackballed by the database
Unfortunately all that was accomplished was that ANY (albeit to little, to late) improvements are now off the table so the Democrats and their willing co-cospiritor Republican allies will just re athorize it as it is either for a short time or indefimnately.
So we have persons with no integrity blackmailing other persons with no integrity. Do two negatives make a positive?
I always say its honor among thieves!!! FJBLGB!!!! F the Uniparty!
As a long former retired professional thief, Ican assure you their is no honor, per se amongst thieves.
I see what you did there 😉
Speaker Johnson is too weak a man to oppose re-authorization. I say this as he has been rolled on everything else of importance.
Who holds his tapes?
Bingo
Exactly. His complete 180° turn around was for a reason.
I can state without a doubt that the most pious of men almost ALWAYS have the deepest, darkest, ugliest secrets…
I remember the VERY righteous Baptist deacon who refused to hire me as a preschool assistant at the private school that our church ran because I actually admitted that I occasionally enjoyed a glass of wine with dinner. When I asked him to show me WHERE in the Bible that was forbidden he got very angry and told me that he didn’t KNOW for sure that someone could lose their salvation over a glass of wine but it was certainly not a chance he intended to take! He then told me that he didn’t actually care what I did in private but if I wanted the job I had to sign a statement that I did not drink alcohol…so evidently lying was okay but a glass of wine was not? I told him that I would not sign it so he refused to hire me. I pulled my kids and started homeschooling them and it was the best decision we made. A few years later, I heard that the church almost had to file for bankruptcy because the VERY righteous deacon embezzled $400K to buy investment properties, but hey, at least he didn’t have a glass of wine while doing it!
I seriously think of him every single time I see a picture of Judas Pence or Mike Johnson!
Amen, sister.
God is no respecter of persons.
Trust God. Fear not.
Jesus’ first miracle was turning water into wine at a wedding feast. Which saved the Bride and Grooms family from loosing face in front of the community.
John 2: 11
11 What Jesus did here in Cana of Galilee was the first of the signs through which he revealed his glory; and his disciples believed in him.
I had a pastor that told me church was the devils playground and boy was he right! Our pastor was good and honest but we had some real troublemakers that loved to stir the pot!
You’re blessed to not have been hired at that church as you well know.
VikingMom, the spouse and I just discussed this no more than 3 minutes ago!
Those who trade on being a Christian are all too often some of the worst you will ever meet.
Wolves 🐺🐺in sheeps’ 🐑🐏clothing.
Watch for the fish on the car.
Rules for thee, but none for me.
ah yes, my Baptist friends and their yummy grape juice. 🙂
Similar situation working for a Southern Baptist college. I was seen drinking wine with a meal, on my time, and was also, horrors, smoking. I was called to the president’s office on Monday morning and the “no alcohol or tobacco” clause in my contract was highlighted and the president threatened to fire me and remove me from the master’s program if he ever heard that I violated that clause again. I resigned and withdrew. A few years later he was arrested in San Francisco for embezzling millions of $$$ from the school and spending the money on illicit drugs, alcohol, and high priced call girls. One of the charges was violating the “Mann Act”. The last time a heard about the Mann Act was in “Smokey and the Bandit”!
Yeah, the more I see him in action, the more I’m seeing MTGs point in removing him.
Sometimes cutting our losses early is the best route. Why grow the mess you can already see there?
There is a real chance of SHTF on his watch, is THIS who we want to deal with that with???
I don’t know who would be any different. Or should I say who is able to stand against this onslaught?
Can’t get the votes, 19 patriots shut it down … for now
Is it real, or are they just holding out for more considerations, or to make a show of resisting, in order to try to burnish their MAGA creds (fake).
Donation requests…
Gotta keep the $$$ flowing
That’s the way the game is played; it’s not for keeps.
I was seeing what was on TV when EWTN reported it as though 19 bad little republicans voted it down-but not to worry, Speaker Johnson will bring it back.
Info wars indeed. Our team can’t understand that voting it down is good. They report ass-backwards- confusing viewers who think they have a trustworthy source.
Along with 209 Democrats???
Are Democrats so stupid or their governing algorithm so rigid that they always vote against Republicans even if it goes against legalizing the cheating that they already do?
Does anybody in Congress actually know what they’re voting on or are they apathetic about the legislative particulars and are merely money whores for hire?
I think you answered your own question here.
Yes
That’s an insult to “ladies of the evening,”
The Dems are voting it down as a fail safe in case the real President wins the election. They don’t want him to have the tools to expose the treasons behavior.
Aside from the sliver majority issue, MAGA is outvoted by RINOs 10:1 (original McCarthy vote disputes were approx 200-20) within Repubs alone.
And with at least 20-25 Decepticons out of 50 in the Senate, THAT is our real problem.
RINOs and Deep State UniParty from TOP to BOTTOM in Congress.
I think he’s probably naive. It’s sad. He could be doing a lot of good people a huge favor, as well as doing his dam job. Think of it.
Money, money, money, money, money… Speaker Johnson is just another pious candy-ass hypocrite. No different from Mike Pence.
Now I have that Ohio Players song stuck in my head.
As soon as the media started pushing the terrorist strike in the US I knew it was BS.
America does not need large databases.
They are recent developments (decades) and their sole purpose is to control whole populations with a small number of globalist / communists.
Free people have to make “null” the large databases.
Disjointed files worked well before the large databases and they will do just fine after the large databases are made “null.”
Let the 702 expire and do not replace it.
“Let’s go Brandon and the democrats and the GOPe and their large databases.”
Yes. And they’ll do it anyway.
If the data is in a file, a database can be created from it with script kiddy level coding. what we need is a lock and key on the data that can not be stolen or pried loose and abused by 10000 “agents” for political purposes. and we need all of congress privy to what the gang of eight knows. The gov has been collecting data on civilians from the first phone calls. it just was not used by Tom, dick and Harry to harass, trap, follow and prosecute law abiding citizens.
What helps is if the data collection is decentralized by a wide variety of software tools that do not work well together. Then one hack does not expose everybody’s data. The opposite of Obama cares web site and centralization of health care. That requires someone who is knowledgeable and has access to hack.
The article I saw today was that Johnson is angling for a five year extension. That will coincidentally push the reauthorization decision beyond Trump’s full term, into whatever party gets the next turn at the wheel. If we ever want to see the end of FISA, we need to get Republicans to go for a short renewal so Trump can kill it.
Its really relatively easy to kill the program.
Currently it is THEORETICALLY and “legally” only supposedto be authorised for investigatong terrorism and espionage, and also theoretically only supposed to be used against foreigners engaged in terrorism or espionage hence FOREIGN Intel Survellence Act, or FISA.
So, PDJT signs an executive order stating that election infrastructure being “critical infrastructure” and our enemies, both terrorists and spies, are attempting to subvert our elections,…FISA 702 about searches with 3 hop can be used to investigate any attempts to interfere with or manipulate our elections.
Furthermore, bioweopons deployment is an act of terrorism, and therefore FISA 702 about searches with3 hop can be used to investigate every aspect of the covid debacle.
WATCH how fast all of those screaming to keep the program would suddenly do a 180, and insist it HAD to be shut down.
Because they do not, Do Not, DO NOT want that weopon they wield so cavalierly against others,…turned around and pointed at THEM.
Amen.
And Trump had the evidence, supposedly at MAL. That’s why they raided MAL. Hopefully they didn’t find what they were looking for – and I’m presuming they didn’t because they keep piling false charges on DJT to prevent his re-election. If DJT gets back in the WH, there will be no vacancy at Gitmo.
Brilliant
Astute, as always Dutchman, but naive. Once a dB exists it exists. It is not going away whether 702 passes or not. And how do you determine the who, what, and where of the 10,000 access points? If there are 10K access points known there are at the very least some multiple of that number actually actively thriving. In the wonderful world of data capture email addresses and phone numbers are among the most important means of identifying people. These data are converted to pseudonyms such as: e854d78eg163zxy2020 – which can still serve as personal ID numbers. (thus, even removing a name from a list is essentially meaningless). The Monsters of the Id have been released and the Genie cannot be put back into the jar.
The Intel spooks are the ones who do all the FISA 702 searches. They will never search anywhere that might expose themselves, no matter what Trump directs them to do. They are experts at circumventing POTUS and only following investigations that serve their own priorities.
Trump just has to give access to a non spook. Others can do what they do.
Excellent Dutch. Hope Trump puts it to use like that before canning it.
No short term renewal. Just kill it.
FMJ!!!
702 should not be re-authorized without a specific directive that any use of 702 on any US Citizen is a felony with mandatory prison and fines. Unless there is an action specific, single use, single target, 1st, 4th, and 6th Amendment compliant, Warrant , issued by a Federal Judge, and subject to oversight and public disclosure if anything goes awry.
There should be Zero contractor access. Any Military or Govt Employee executes a search with full liability, or no search.
702 has gotten way out of control. Use it against Foreign Nationals, or Outside the US, or against internal terrorist groups that are specifically defined and justified in a single use Warrant. But none of this targeting Catholics, gun owners, etc. and other political witch hunts.
I’d make an exception for Schiff, Pelosi, and cohorts. /sarc. Well, maybe and maybe not.
Isn’t this like giving the kids access to the cookie jar and trusting that they won’t eat all the cookies before dinner? Don’t give these crooks any authorization to spy on any citizens ever because they cannot be trusted.
It is unless mandatory prison terms apply for misuse. I “get that” people lie and are corrupt. But as it is, the IC has unfettered access with zero accountability. I suppose one way is to eliminate any 702 access within the US on US citizens UNLESS they are part of a Non US search on Foreign Nationals. But, that too can be abrogated. Look at Christopher Steele and the Russia dossier.
How do we protect against the really bad guys but protect US citizens from abuse by corrupt IC/Political Hacks.
It is the abuse against US Citizens that is the problem. Not sure how to solve that.
I am not convinced they are actually using this system, to “protect against the really bad guys” at ALL.
Oh, they set up and framed some really stupid guys, moslems that entrapped into a plot to blow up the statue of liberty, much like the Whitmer kidnapping b.s.,…but can they show they have REALLY used this system to defeat a genuine terrorist plot, or break up some espionage ring bent on damaging our country?
I am highly sceptical.
Dutch, they ARE the really bad guys.
The Bush family in reality is a global cartel operation that has been running drugs and money laundering since before Vietnam. Badlands media has been been laying out the deets on the whole set up, from Mexican politicians to Bank of Crooks and Criminals Int’l (with a side of Comey coverup)
They just wear nice suits and attend church in order to skin walk their way through appearing to have souls and integrity and, well, humanity.
Hence, why Panama was invaded and Noriega (Head of State) was arrested right after GW went into office.
He was the “bag man” for the cocaine Iran/Contra Bush ran op. And a liability for Bush exposure.
Has it ever occurred to anyone that when Noriega outlived his sentence, he was not released????? 👀
There was a reason.
That I did not know Black knight.
Hmm, 9/11, & Boston Marathon to name just 2 that they either “missed” or…..anyone feel
free to fill in the blank!
I thought it was only me.
Koe Scarborough literally got away with murder, lois Lerner with destroying evidence/obstruction, etc. and you actually think if their were laws punishing for abuse that they would be enforced?
Your FUNNY! 🙂
That is what the Court is intended to do, and we all know how that has worked out. Get rid of it and re-establish the rules laid down by the Church Commission.
We cannot protect everyone. We really can’t protect ourselves, personally either. We all, including those at the top who may not believe it, die.
Accept that. Stay close to God in His Church, and do your best to do His Will.
Be amazing how much better the entire world would be if we just did His Will.
No can decide what His Will really is. Even Baptist Deacons and Clergy in various other groups within the umbrella of Christianity feel free to decide which Commandments they want to obey.
Schiff, Pelosi and cohorts are already exempt. All federal and state government judges and employees should not have any immunity whatsoever, except for the President .
People must be held accountable for their actions.
Ironically, when it was first established in the mid 1970s, the purpose of the FISA Court was to constrain intelligence agencies from spying willy-nilly on American citizens.
We now see how that has turned out.
There is no one in DC who will enforce the LAW as it is. More law is not the answer.
FBI, DOJ, NSD, DHS and Contractors use this database to conduct political and “other” (think corporate espionage for sale) surveillance.
Think insider trading as well.
Not sure but I read what I thought said some MAGA affiliated congressman killed it.
If so, JOHNSON STRUCK OUT!
Never saw that “low inside screwball” coming. Whiff!
And, ^^^, IC submitted the legislation (think lobbyists) and then controls the politicians thru blackmail.
ALL ROADS ….
😎
Langley,…
And from that redoubt to . . . .
Davos,…? City of London?,..
Geneva?
Close enough. But we can’t do anything about them until the ones in own government are removed or neutralized.
First stop. Don’t pass go and collect $200 until this key issue is resolved.
The Dems are the ones who killed it, 1. it embarasses the Republican speaker which they all love, 2. they are holding out for zero reforms.
Without those 19 Republicans crossing the line, the kill would have never happened.
That picture is apropos.
The Speaker could choose to do a lot of things. Yet he does not. Self interest? Cowardice? Pretending? It matters not.
He has been weighed, measured, and found wanting.
Follow the money….
President Trump has done the 180.
Timing is everything.
The tea leaves whisper
“The tables are turned.”
Less cryptically, what won’t the IC criminal syndicate do to retain the power to surveille the whole American citizenry?
At the same time, do we have reason to believe the FBI (and its owners, the CIA) ever got its access to the NSA databases fully restored? Unclear.
It will be an interesting month. Speaker Jeffries incoming if the IC can’t get Johnson the turn the trick, imho.
Let’s see what happens.
The Friday Trump /Johnson presser at Mar a Lago will be
👀👀 💥💥
I like the connection you made to which agency holds primacy in this drama.
Cartel Inc. America?
Just reread “Permanent Record” by Edward Snowden. He saw the compartmentalizaton that Sundance speaks of (silos) and the how “they” used the FISA court. Not to mention the program that was pushed on foreign countries that allowed “election manipulation”.
Hunker down, Treepers…..the show has just begun.
Recently watched “Snowden” for a second time,…reccomend for all.
I haven’t watched it, but Snowden is /was a Farm grown boy.
The fact that he got his own movie is a further tell.
So watch, but look for the holes and the lies.
You can learn a lot, watching things lie.
I’ll play! The presser will be an opportunity for Trump to Trump Johnson.
In a manner of speaking , of course.
I think we need to stop making excuses for prentender Mike Johnson and the rest of the UniParty cabal.
They all know Biden didn’t win either. Which is why there is not even a fake investigation into the fake election results
this is what pretending looks like Charlie Brown
He’s got that same softy, nice guy face as Brett Kavanaugh.
We need people with the wolverine face.
Exactly. Just another big pretender.
And a badger attitude.
When he sat behind Dirty Diaper Joe during his SOTU rant, just nodding his head in agreement of every lie that came out of that monster’s mouth, it made my blood boil. I haven’t cooled off yet….
remain me …another beautie…Jeff Sessions…..
Well, I stop pretending about Mike McJohnson, his creator/sponsor Matt Gaetz, and the Freedom Caucus, er Cock-us, some time back.
If they are sitting IN the House, its because they are compromised, otherwise they wouldn’t BE there.
All MAGA contenders shut out through systematic election fraud.
Appears The insurance policy will be to continue this trend leaving President Trump all alone surrounded by a bunch of self serving clowns.
Yeah buddy! My sentiment exactly. The entire election system is a fraud and has been for quite some time.
Trump has again managed to help us see it more clearly. He is a weapon alright.
So focus guys, focus!
Republicans have always been in on the scam. Trump was sabotaged by the GOP. They were enabling the Democrats, still do.
Also, never trust a person who is so adamant in public about his beliefs. Pence, Johnson… the so called ‘men of faith’ are nothing more than pious candy-ass hypocrites.
Let FISA 702 expire. Defund the FBI, CIA, NSA & HSA…or better yet; abolish all four organizations.
And hold state, local, and federal employees and others accountable for illegally accessing the NSA database via those back doors. This was done at the Illinois State Library, for one place. Rep. Dick Durbin needs to look within.
The corrupt and compromised IC could care less, about the illegal terrorists that have waltzed across our wide open border. Their illegal surveillance and eavesdropping applies only to Patriotic Citizens.
Like the @zís, they routinely hire neighbors (brown nosers) to be their brownshirts. Smear campaigns (slander, libel, character defamation) and some moolah go a long way toward building a loyal army of street-level goons.
Who let the 9/11 terrorists in?
We, the People, do not have any friends in DC…
ON ANY ISSUE…
Full stop.
Period.
End of Story.
Yup!
No greater truth.
Johnson may have started out with righteous intentions. I don’t know, BK. We have no way of knowing. I was prepared to assume he had them and therefore gave him the benefit of the doubt based solely on his announcement that he would release all the J6 tapes. So where are they?
But as soon as he picked up that gavel he became a changeling.
The full impact of the power he had inherited must have hit him. Sort of like “My Precious” in Lord of the Rings
I guess it happens to them all under the Eye of Sauron that resides within the rancid sewer that is DC.
There is NO WAY they would have considered him for Speaker, unless they had thouroughly vetted him, 702 about searched him, and KNEW, absotutely, positively that they had his juevos firmly in a vice, BEFORE they first allowed his name to be mentioned, as a “possible”.
A rogue Speaker, NOT firmly under their control, could do tremendous damage, and they could not risk that.
No, it was our perception that he morphed, they had him before they ever suggested to him that he might be Speaker,…count on it.
While I agree with you, dutch, on all points, still my better angel hoped..
I always hope.
Oh, I know.
Remember, I REALLY WANTED to eat that crow, had it thawed out, and everything.
Maybe one day…
Perzactly.
“Selected” to be controlled.
I thought it was really odd that, after all the haranguing and apparent arguing and hand-wringing, they confirmed this guy unanimously. BOOM! Yeah….no ….
Literally down in the sewer they have down under the Capitol Building. I hear a lot goes on there.
And sick of defiling the Capitol building, for variety they moved to the Senate chamber.
For this, I’ve installed a deadbolt on the door of my imagination.
Lol, love the analogy, Betsy!
Once seen, never forgotten, COL…and I don’t want to go there 👍🏻
“I want my
babyback, babyback, babyback RIIIBS!”
🤢🤮
Merton Bets!
And yet, here we are……again
Correction: Me too Bets!
LOL!
Johnson started out with righteous Pretensions. He used his faith to sift us for money. I received a dozen e-mails from him touting his faith while begging for dollars. I didn’t give him a nickel.
I didn’t want to be cynical. I had hope. Once his righteous e-mails for money started flowing, I made a judgement call.
Oh yes. Where are all the J6 tapes?
So he fund raised pronouncing himself to be something he is not, did he? His definition of Christianity is different from mine. And I find that the most odious pretention of all.
Why do I see tables being overturned…
New boss, same as the old boss.
Now we’re talkin’!
BINGO!
But if the US Intel Agencies use the other 4 Eyes to circumvent US law restricting surveillance of US citizens, what of FISA?
Could it be that it is nothing more than a big red herring and limited hangout, to keep the citizens distracted and occupied?
Exactly. Smoke and mirrors, chaff & countermeasures.
All five of the Five Eyes nations are all led by globalist tyrants.
FBI “don’t need no stinking” 702 to spy on Americans.
They have a “workaround”……..
But they still pretend to play by rules.
That means a President who appoints an AG like, say, Paxton can gut them when they get caught committing crimes with no legal cover.
Also, I believe the Statute of Limitation on RICO is five years, measured ftom the date of the last act furthering the conspiracy- so, basically the ongoing fake indictments are extending the Statute of Limitation on the 2016 unauthorized and illegal searches all the way into 2029.
They are running very, very scared of a Retribution Presidency.
“But they still pretend to play by rules.”
Sometimes. But the pretending has become increasingly transparent and steadily replaced by open brazenness over the recent few years…
“That means a President who appoints an AG like, say, Paxton can gut them when they get caught.”
Maybe. And I certainly pray that happens. However we should never underestimate the depth of corruption the Deep State will use to “persuade” an already-corrupted judge to find a way to rule against the pro-Trump AG on a seemingly obvious case.
RICO has appropriate venue in any district court a prosecutor selects, in the entire US.
Texas. 5th Circuit.
Badaboom.
You are quite the optimist; I’ll give you that. 🙂
I guess I’ve been somewhat tempered by reality over the years. 😎
But there is always hope.. 🙏🏻
The foreigners search US NSA database on behalf of US agencies to obtain data on US citizens. then when foreign agencies need data on their citizens, the favor is returned.
At some point We The People are going to have to re-install our Constitution as the ultimate law of the land. Since the brainwashing has been underway for four generations, the chances of us ever returning to our Constitutional Republic are only two. They would be slim and none.
I am pleased that Trump has once again chosen based on what is best for our Country. I am displeased that Trump is unable to break through the news boycotting News Media. More soon….. I pray.
No but I think our gracious host been in contact with President Trump, his announcement not to reauthorize it, and more to come, has to do breaking through the news boycotting, I may be all wet, but I just have a strange feeling going on, in a good way.
Hate to burst your bubble, but in the Ask Me Anything recently, Sundance said he has had no contact, and PDJT has too many people around him that would block any contact,…although he also said Melania reads here …
Besides family members of the perverted not being happy…,
in this day and age
WHAT perverse behaviors could be used as blackmail?
Child-rape and worse???
Cannibalism,…
And modern day ritual human child sacrifice to Baal and/or Moloch. Literally!!!!!
Biblical.
Unfortunately.
Luckily, “the Vampire ball is over.”
Someone said recently.
Vampire = Amelakites (etymology – “those who lick blood”).
Its a great point and one Ive pondered recently as well. Pedophilia is already well on its way to being normalized. Some lady just got arrested for bestiality the other day, I don know if I have ever seen that before. Im sure “B” will be the next letter added to the freak-show alphabet, after “P” of course.
the government and congress is populated by cowards, devils, psychos, bribetakers, and idiots.
pick any random 100 people in the 10 square miles of DC and 99 of them will fall into one or more of those categories.
Julie Kelly
@julie_kelly2
The woman in the middle now runs Joe Biden’s intelligence community.
The woman on the right runs Joe Biden’s DOJ.
They both were involved in concocting Russiagate.
And now House Republicans want to continue to give them no-strings-attached FISA powers.
Get a warrant.
“Hell hath no fury…”
All true.
Do you actually think not renewing 702 is going to deter the IC from not using the tools currently in place to spy on Americans?? Silly treepers..
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You do have a point—I know for a fact that they routinely break into innocent Americans’ homes (mine, for example) and install cameras and mics in *EVERY* room (let that sink in). But it’s worth a try.
They also work the FM “brotherhood” network to find individuals to host stingray and DEW equipment on their properties, pointed at the “targeted” house. It’s so sad. So many people have sunk so low.
Glad you’re back, SD
My family and I are four of those watchlisted Americans. I deeply resent the fact that our neighbors and others have been taking bribes to help ruin our lives. Their gaslighting, Peeping Tom-ness, mean-spiritedness, and selfishness say a lot about them and their low opinion of us. That being the case, I doubt we’ll ever be friends. On the contrary, if we ever dare leave our house empty for even 30 minutes, we do so at the risk that these self-righteous, disgusting thieves will break in and steal from us yet again. I wish I could say that this is an exaggeration. This goes WAY beyond simple surveillance!
Are any of them NOT Americans?
Asking for a friend.
“The IC keep the blackmail, just promise not to use it.”
Thank you for bringing up the blackmail aspect. This is a huge problem that is going to be extremely difficult to solve.
“One Nation Under Blackmail” by Whitney Webb is not an easy read but has mountains of factual info related to political corruption over the past 100 years. If you want to know what we’re up against, read her books (2 volumes) or at least use them as a reference guide.
FISA is no longer about harm reduction by Mike Johnson. Not having the votes to block a discharge petition, he tried to cobble together a bill to oppose the Senate FISA bill, and he proposed a rule to hold a vote and that lost. President Trump has now weighed in and wants the renewal of the law to be blocked. So that is the game plan now, because Johnson will do as President Trump instructs.
The House GOP could block FISA, if every Republican voted against the discharge petition for the Senate bill. By calling for the law to be blocked, it is assumed President Trump can deliver the votes. That is interesting, because one can infer that several RINOs in favor of FISA have traded their votes to President Trump. Perhaps they can see the writing on the wall.
“writing on the wall.” They see 81 million or more of us standing behind President Trump.
“writing on the wall.”
At 81 million+ of us, it’s no longer a wall, it’s more like a fortress.
And if FISA isn’t reauthorized, what are the odds of a CIA-engineered terrorist event inside the US before November?
They were already 100 percent.
How do you stop access and abuse?
Simple, remove everyone’s security clearances. And by everyone, I mean everyone. No database admins, no system admins, no network architects, etc.
Simple, if any country in the 5 eyes accesses the data you blow them up.
BTW, to stop the FBI you don’t have to fire anyone. Yank their Law Enforcement Commissions, voila, no police powers.
This is an excellent solution.
It is similar to the plan to clean up voter rolls by starting with a clean slate.
Oh, you’re here to vote? OK, we put your name down on the (paper) poll book. Next!
Why do we let them have all this electronic access? Time to pull the plug.
The solution is simple, elegant, and makes a lot of sense. Probably why it won’t happen.
John Coleman’s Conspirators’ Hierarchy: the story of the Committee of 300 – suggests that all of our ‘intelligence’ apparatus is at the service of British Monarchy & other ‘nobility’ (and others)…who are the unseen and unknown ones pulling the strings marching us toward a horrific future (war/pandemics/etc to get to 1/2 billion slaves) for all who are not in their small group…where they own everything…and we are ‘happy’ if we take their drugs…written in 1991/1992
You can count on one hand the number of congress men and women that have completely boring and wholesome personal histories
Let’s face it, nearly everyone has done something stupid or dishonest or sleazy
The nsa has all of it
If you sell yourself as a public servant and you have a secret pornhub addiction or have a boyfriend or just jerk off they have you
Congress selects for mutual corruption
As do the societies
Bum sex on the senate flooor anyone?
And, even if you are “pure”, what about your family?
If they tell you that have evidence your adult son has kiddie porn on his computer, are you actually going to bring it up with your son?
Yes. Your son who is now a father had a previous career as a cp user. We can destroy your grandson by sending your son to prison. Vote for this bill
“The politicians and their key staff cannot fathom how the FBI, DOJ, NSD, DHS and contractors use this database to conduct political and “other” (think corporate espionage for sale) surveillance. “
And do not think for a moment that the sacred cow called the DOD is not involved.
President Trump and Speaker Johnson are holding a joint press conference this Friday at Mar-a-Lago; perhaps they will also discuss the FISA renewal issue.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/house-speaker-mike-johnson-deliver-remarks-trump-election-integrity-rcna147237
If, according to Sundance, ‘[t]hey really do think the IC is full of honorable rank-and-file,‘ my question is who are these people in Congress and where did they come from?
Are they that stupid? Or have the majority of them already been caught engaging in illegal activities, enabling the IC to coerce them into voting for all kinds of unconstitutional garbage? Or…… only compromised candidates who are vulnerable to blackmail have the capacity of “winning” an election?
I mean, you cannot convince me that so many allegedly ‘normal’ people—patriotic Americans who win elections—suddenly become ‘totally siloed from understanding‘ things after spending a year or so in the House or Senate. Is it some sort of spell or magic at work?
Don’t put it past the IC to “allow” an attack to happen if they don’t get FISA… Watch that play out for the election!
“Johnson and most Republicans believe the IC nonsense. They really do.”
Clearly these clowns either have never heard of or have just ignored the multiple reports issued on FISA abuse.
It’s not a one-off accident when hundreds of thousands of abuses have happened.
The House will be in Hakeem Jeffries hands by November. The GOP are gigantic scumbags.
Which they will hold for only 2 and a half months.
Doesn’t matter. One side’s the same as the other!
That pictorial simile of Cpl. Upham as Speaker Johnson hits the bullseye; SD, you outdid yourself.
Thought I was the only one who got that reference!
Saving Private Ryan was such a great, but sad movie. I remember how this scene made me feel – hoping that German would kill Upham.
FMJ
Thank you, Sundance!
Rat bastagees…
The truth is that we have no representation in Congress. My own Stupid Party congress critter just voted to reauthorize the FISA monstrosity. She’s a Korean immigrant small business owner who apparently has no familiarity with the concept of constitutional rights.She’s also a thoughtless, gutless drone who does whatever leadership tells her to. I won’t be voting for her this November, and I don’t care how awful her Demoncrat opponent is.
Upem paralyzed with fear. Johnson, Roberts and Comer.
the entire Louisiana elected congressional rino and dems are cowardly political traitors from jiohnon, scalise., kennedy , cassidy etc are all a bunch of do nothing traitors to the United State “legal” citizenry – especially johnson, kennedy, cassidy and scalise
Just a suggestion: if anyone knows anyone in Johnson’s district make sure they are aware of his actions. Just a long line of losers. Boehner, Ryan, McCarthy, and now Johnson.
SD: They say: “My god, we need to monitor the terrorists, and if you take away 702 the foreign terror cells will activate and start killing us all. Do you want that blood on your hands?”
What’s stopping them from creating that exact chaos should the measure not pass? We all know what they are capable of…
That pussy in the shot from Saving Private Ryan is definitely Johnson.
19 republicans voted no on the re-authorization bill. They joined with every democrat who also voted no. Question: I know why 19 patriotic republicans voted no. But why did the democrats vote no too? My guess: the dems think this will end in Johnson’s expulsion and with another Republican leaving the house the majority will pass to them and then the bill will pass once Jeffries is in control.
Is sexual perversion that pervasive in our government, society, etc. that exposure of which it can be used to alter the course of our country?????
Yup.
I think you credit Johnson too much comparing him to Ophem (sp?). I raise you another movie reference: Johnson is balless, Sundance! He doesn’t have any balls!
As you mentioned in the other post, I have exactly 0 faith that if 702 reauthorization failed that access to the NSA database would be curbed. BLS releases data to special “super users” like Blackrock before anyone else, as seen on ZH. Then we see a Fed economist running his mouth in a Veritas video. It’s all rotted out, top to bottom. I watched as everyone went along with the pantomime of COVID, and I’m sitting through the same movie with this cultural marxism. I’m not afraid of COVID or cultural marxism, I’m afraid of the normies that are going to drag me down with them out of apathy and ignorance.
As always, THANK YOU, for your teaching. 🙏🏻🙏🏻. MAGA 👊👊🇺🇸🇺🇸❤️❤️🙏🏻🙏🏻