Having previously written about the issue of three major Chinese EV makers putting massive investment into production facilities, the remarks by President Trump in Ohio warning of a “bloodbath” in the auto industry are exactly accurate. {Background Context Here}
According to media, last December the three Chinese auto manufacturers, MG, BYD, and Chery, announced they were going to spend billions building new EV manufacturing plants in Mexico. Each Chinese auto manufacturer was going to spend between $1.5 to $2.0 billion. The Chinese don’t make that much of an investment in something unless they are sure the U.S. government is going to force the EV market to exist. These manufacturing plants would crush the U.S EV market.
Drawing attention to the issue, President Trump said he can stop the pending crisis. However, if he did not win the election the American auto industry would end up with a “bloodbath” of closed plants, lost jobs and diminished labor union workforce. Trump is not wrong. WATCH:
.
Showcasing the absolute lying fake news that most American media have become, all of the news agencies reported these comments to be about general “violence, retribution and retaliation” by Trump if he lost the election. Reuters even twisted the comments to say, “Trump predicts the end of U.S. democracy if he loses 2024 election.”
Last December, when the original reports of the big three Chinese automakers were released, the headline was, “Chinese EV giants are planning factories in Mexico, and it’s alarming US officials.” Yet somehow, drawing attention to that exact same issue three months later is the end of democracy or something.
[LINK]
bloodbath /blŭd′băth″, -bäth″/
noun
The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, 5th Edition • More at Wordnik
Trump used the word metaphorically and not literally.
Every journalist who has passed English 101 should know the difference.
These journalists are either dumb or disingenuous – probably the latter or maybe both.
Its intentional, and we are WAY past the point that we can ascribe anything the MSM or Republicants do, to stupidity.
Lets check out how them leftists use the word so freely
Video on Twitter of those leftists using the word bloodbath for everything
This is nasty Nancy’s clean up smear like she did with justice Kavanaugh.
It was very clear to those of us in the audience yesterday and it is probably in the tape unless edited out.
I want a bloodbath of democracy, frankly.
We were crafted as a republic and were a far better nation then.
The Tree of Liberty….
Recent reports say that there is a very very small market for electric cars in the United States, and it is becoming smaller!
So let them build factories for electric cars: good luck selling them!
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/hertz-ceo-out-firm-seeks-traction-after-big-ev-bet-goes-bust
They don’t intend to give us a choice.
You always have choice, buy EV or hold on to used internal combustion. EVs are failing to sell. A 1yr supply on dealer lots. China will lose.
With the US digital dollar the government can control what you buy. You want to buy gas for your IE car, sorry, your card is not authorized for that purchase.
Yes, there goes the market.
when gasoline will cost, say, $18.69/gallon + tax in today’s money and only 5 gas stations be allowed to operate in a 10 miles radius you may be forced to rethink whether you drive an EV or ride your bicycle.
My dilemma is which bike from my selection to ride any given day.
Except what is purchasing that electric car cost in the first place and after 200,00o miles it needs a new battery. You can bet you won’t be buying an electric cars you’ll be walking or riding a bike. The majority of peo0le on this earth cannot afford EV even if gas is more expensive.
… it needs a new battery …
… at $40 thousand bucks a pop
The cost of ownership is staggering.
Thats the point!!!… The purpose of the Govt mandated EV is to eliminate private transportation, force people into 15 minute cities..etc etc etc.
Won’t delete when empty.
Which bullet will they desire?
I think EVs are fine. Just don’t get them too hot, too cold, or too wet. Other than that….
“Do you feel lucky, punk? Well, DO ya?”
Ouch!!!
Exactly, no one wants to buy them, many of those who have bought them regret it. And those tyrants in authority who think they can force us to buy them can talk to the social finger.
Force US companies to make EV’s
No one buys them
US companies go belly up
Chinese companies are only car game in town
That’s the plan.
No one will buy the Chinese cars either, so the entire market will be propped up by government subsidies using our tax dollars. The commies cannot let EV fail.
Fifteen minute cities are not just going to populate themselves in the West. At least without “incentives”.
No personal transportation needed there. So long as you like living in a shoe box sized apartment within a high rise, like eating bugs, and owning nothing.
I try not to eat the bugs.However, should I have to resort to bicycle use, a bug in the mouth once and while might be inevitable.
Everyone’s cars eventually wear out or get wrecked. The broad market cant stop buying new cars indefinitely.
Actually, with proper maintenance, which frankly most people don’t do, and with spare parts and rebuildable cores, an ICE auto CAN last forever, or damn near.
My 2006 Jeep with over 200,000 miles on it is still running just fine and my husband takes care of all the maintenance. So you do not have to buy their junk. Just take care of what you have.
Proper maintenance won’t stop an accident or Act of God from totaling a vehicle. What then?
Check out Cuba. All cars on the road r from circa 1950s. 🚗
luckily us oldies won’t ever need another one
Yes, and cars are not items that one wants to “McGyver” to keep them running.
I represent that remark!
Everything in my life is “McGyvered” and wouldn’t have it any other way.
My husband sold my 2005 Lincoln w/300k miles, and it’s still running. We see it in town now and again, and I’m still mad at my husband for selling it.
Chinese companies will not have any buyers either.
Yes, I posted an article here just last week that the “American” car makers are backing off EVs and letting the consumers have “choices” again. 😉
AND I said it’s because they know there is soon gonna’ be a new sheriff in town, and this crap ain’t gonna’ fly no more, no more, no more, no more.
And it ain’t flyin’ with the consumers, no matter how hard they try.
Uniparty. Don’t. Care.
There is no secondary market for used EV’S as their owners are learning.
The Democratic idiots in blue states are determined to legislate non-electric vehicles out of existence. Their comrades in Russia and China can’t believe how STUPID many Americans are.
Journalism is dead.
…as it should be!
Truly, the MSM holds the public in contempt:
Do they really think that NOBODY will check this fake claim, and that the millions who know the truth will keep it to themselves?!
Apparently so! The MSM think we are all so stupid that we will swallow whatever they say without investigating it!
MSNBC is already deleting the false, out-of-context claim:
“The walkbacks have already begun – with MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough deleting his ‘Bloodbath’ post on X after getting called out by Musk….
The propagandist claimed Trump said he would conduct “another bloodbath” if he lost the election, however Trump was talking about the auto industry....”
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/leftist-corporate-media-unleash-bloodbath-hoax-after-trumps-speech
Yes, they think we are stupid, and no, they don’t give a damn what we think.
Actually, its experiencing a rebirth.
When the internet first started, they prematurely predicted or iver-hyped its”transformative power” saying Journalists didn’t need major newspapers or networks, they could be citisen journalists with an I-phone,…performers didn’t need big studios, they could sell their music directly to consumers,…ditto movie makers.
But, humans are lazy, and most continued to “one stop shop” for News/Info, and entertainment from the giant 6 headed multinational media market; the product was crap, but ir was cheap, and we didn’t have to work to get it.
But then, they introduced WOKE, into movies, tv shows, music, and news.
They shredded their credibility, and drive their customers away.
And now we DO have a growing army of citisen journalists, movie makers and music producers, and having cut the cord, there is no way they are going back.
Try that in a small town North of Richmond, and you will hear the,Sound of Freedom,..and “81 million votes my ass!”
From Todd Begram to Tina Peters, Naomi Wolf to Sundance, Matt Taibi to Sheryl Atkinson, laura Loomer to James Okeefe, the list of GOOD, dedicated to the truth journalists, and entertainers just keeps growing.
They can’t control the internet, without shutting it down, and if they shut it down they concede defeat.
A big % of under-30 age bracket get their “news” (actually Demo/Uniparty/CCP propaganda) from t i k t o k.
Yes, that is not from The Onion or Babylon Bee.
They are truly sheep herded to the slaughter.
Problem is, there are millions of them – and they vote.
I read that Lara Trump and the new staff at RNC is aware and working the problem.
“…. or something.”
Par for the course.
I can’t understand Musk being the one to call out Scarborough on this,..deflection?
IMO, gotta keep up that facade of being the “champion” of free speech, truth, justice and the American way to deflect from the news of those satellites he just sent up with a big fat contract by and for his IC masters.
Look here, squirrels. See, I’m a good guy just like I was when I invited and enticed you back to X so ‘they’ could spy on you easier.
Well, wasn’t on twatter before he bought it, haven’t considered joining since he “X’d” it, never saw the point.
Same here. Never been on any social media except here.
Ditto…once you’ve tasted filet mignon, why would you want 3 day old tuna fish?
Pig pile.
Musk gets the media attention. You or I wouldn’t.
On purpose. PDT trolling the MSM, exposing themselves once again as lying idiots. Well done.
I find it interesting Pence didn’t roll over with the corporate cows on this one.
Trying to redeem the unredeemable
Why would anyone care what 30-pence thinks or does?
CBS brought him on to try and bash Trump over it. He didn’t. Why? Every move must be questioned.
Our communists, the Democrat party, would be fine with the Chinese taking control of the electric vehicle market. After all, they love the Chinese. Hate the Russians.
Gee, the Democrats LOVED the Old Bolshevik Communist Soviet Union.
What happened? LOL
Putin supports the Orthodox Church
Exactly! White Orthodox Christian Slavic People seem to Target Number One!
Putin supports blowing up apartment buildings as well.
just my opinion, but I think that Russia humiliated Barack Obama. He visited and many Russians wouldn’t even shake his hand. It was pretty humiliating and even though I despise Obama I was embarrassed for him. Obama is a very vindictive man and it wouldn’t surprise me one bit if this proxy war is because of Obama’s vendetta against Russia. I could be wrong it’s just my opinion.
And pet rocks.
The RINOs are Communists, too.
Yes if it doesn’t run at all I guess it would help the environment.
They don’t intend for us to be mobile outside the limits of our 15 minute cities.
EXACTLY!!! I keep telling my friend this and she still doesn’t see it.
Lol
yep
it’s being hoisted down the road on the back of a diesel flat-bed
but “better for the planet” yada yada
Saw a new EV Bronco the other day waiting on the tow truck. The lady driving it said the battery still showed plenty of juice, but it just stopped and wouldn’t go
No such animal as an EV Bronco. What did you really see, if anything at all?
If she only had the car version.
My GOSH!!!!
He didn’t say THAT did he!?!!??!??!!
Nobody has EVER used THAT word before!!!! Where is my fainting couch??
(A NY Post headline from a while back…
“Spotify to Lay Off 6 Percent of Its Workforce As the Bloodbath Widens”)
According to one report I saw, apparently President Trumped poll numbers went up another three points after the hysteria took hold.
How does it go?
“Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt.”
A lesson they’ll never learn.
Good, I say…let’s not interrupt them 😎
Very well stated Betsy..👏👏😘👍..they will never learn…
🇺🇸💪😀👍
Great picture 📸 and comment Betsy jones 👍 👌
👉These globalists, Marxists and Fascists are exuding a smell like the stench of the “dead skunk in the middle of the road” while we Constitutional Republic Citizens breathe the air of liberty 🗽 and Freedom.
Our MAGA is “life” to those who will receive it while their stench is always corruption and “death”👈
Thats cause 3 % heard/read the msm distortion of PDJT’s ‘bloodbath’ statement, and were persuaded to vote for him.
“Bloodbath? Trump says bloodbath if he’s not elected? Well sunofagun, I guess he’s finally getting serious, and about time,..he’s got my vote!”
Since the 1980’s, ..
We asked them to secure our election,..
and they gave us the finger.
We asked them to secure our border,…
and they gave us the finger.
We asked them to leave our guns alone,…
our kids alone,….
our jobs alone,…
and they gave us the finger.
In 2016, and again in 2024, WE give THEM the finger!
I’m giving them my Southern one right now.
Well said, dutch my friend 👍🏻
Roflmao! Remember, these are the same people who thought having Michael Avanatti as President was a good idea. Fools indeed, it’s the touchstone of all liberalism.
And completely unfathomable to me, George. Surely, I say to myself (and now here), there cannot possibly be millions of people for whom critical thinking and discernment are nowhere to be found??
Even unto Corporate hierarchies who actually though EVs were a good idea. Those people are paid millions upon millions yearly for pity’s sake… I’m surprised their stockholders haven’t sued them for fiduciary malfeasance. The day might come when it will happen.
Notice how the MSM don’t have apoplexy from the Demonrats saying that it would be the end of “democracy” if President Trump won.
Just despicable the amount of propaganda they spew….
But they’re not wrong.
It would be the end of “their’ democracy. 👀
And we can return to a constitutional republic. 👀
As intended by our Founding Fathers.
See the video SD posted on the earlier post.
Exactly 💯 Black Knight 👌👍
Can’t wait! Want our republic back!
I still want a bloodbath,…am I wrong?
The Russia, Russia, the Covid plandemic, the stolen election, the whole child mutilation trans insanity, the needless slaughter of countless 100’s of millions in Afganistan, Iraq, Syria, Lybia, Viet Nam, etc.
And the atrosious, cynical abuse of our best, for theiir endless stupid wars, the disrespect shown makes me boil!
I want them held ACCOUNTABLE, I want Justice, and I know there is no way any Giverment run “Criminal Justice System” is ever going to come CLOSE to giving us “Justice”,..so I want a bloodbath, with pitchfork colonoscopys, and hemp necktie parties, and no formality necesary.
Drag tjem from their high places, and literally mob them to feath, and stomp them till there is nothing left to stomp!
Am I wrong,…?
Chinese electric vehicle manufacturing plants are going to be in production in Mexico about the same time that Biden’s mandate of all vehicles sold in the United States after 2030 are electric.
It’s almost as if China knew Biden was going to make this Green New Deal project happen.
That’s what happens when Blackrock is sitting in the Whitehouse and also the ones backing the Chinese EV plants in Mexico. It’s just dumb luck!!
CEO of Hertz was from Goldman Sachs and CFR! LOL. He took Hertz to the cleaners!
BYD is backed by Warren Buffet, for a very long time now; it’s not just Blackrock. If US, Japanese and German made EVs are not selling well here, the Chinese won’t/shouldn’t either. My fear is it’ll be much lower in cost, and, also lower than ICE vehicles here; I hope people don’t fall for it. American consumers have allowed themselves to buy ‘cheap and less reliable’ low-cost goods from China for ~3 decades now, I hope they don’t fall (again) for Chinese EV/cars now. Thank you.
<Chinese electric vehicle manufacturing plants are going to be in production in Mexico…>
Totally expected…
No supplies here 🙂
Wordman, that is probably one of your best. I laughed out loud and I hope you did what I think you did.
TY…Yes I did 🙂
Ha!!!!! Rolling!!!
You funny man Joe.
The classic car and older used car valuations will skyrocket.
A little under the weather, it took me about four hours, and several readings to get it.
You want flies with your burger?
Thats Insider Trading..
Subversion by forcing this garbage in the US as a “fix” for a non-existent climate issue before we have a electrical generation and distribution grid capable of supplying it.
My ELECTRIC CAR is now WORTHLESS Even the DEALERSHIP doesn’t want it back! EVs are DISPOSABLE JUNK!!
The MacMaster
Mar 11, 2024
I have owned my Porsche Taycan EV Electric Car now for just over 2 years. The purchase price was £120,000. I’ve had a few quotes over the last few months for it as I’d like to go back to a Petrol Car. Unfortunately I found out the hard way that Electric Vehicles are a disposable item and you WILL lose all your money and could end up in great financial difficulty. My EV is now so worthless EVen the dealership does not want it back. BE WARNED! DO NOT BUY AN ELECTRIC CAR! Watch this video and share it across all you social media a friends. CLICK THE THUMBS UP so YouTube Pushes this video out to people who are looking to purchase an Electric Car and have been fed the lies that Electric Cars are the future of motoring!!!
EV Inventories Hit Record High in US as Cars Pile Up on Dealer Lots
Now 114 days’ worth of supplies in US, twice last year’s level
Both Ford and GM are pulling back on production plans
14 Dec 2023
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-12-14/ev-inventories-hit-record-high-in-us-as-cars-pile-up-on-dealer-lots
Proof Electric Cars are a Scam and the Media is Lying to You
6.12M subscribers
11 Mar 2024
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Karma-
Hertz CEO Out As Firm Seeks Traction After Big EV Bet Goes Bust
EO Stephen Scherr’s barely two-year ride with Hertz came to a screeching halt on Friday. In his wake, he leaves a company still working to recover from a big bet on electric vehicles gone bad. It will do so under new CEO Gil West, whose previous posts include executive roles at Delta Air Lines and the Cruise unit of General Motors.
Scherr, who came on board in February 2022 after 30 years at Goldman Sachs, ushered the company through its emergence from bankruptcy. Hertz’s EV push began in the previous year, with a splashy move to order 100,000 Tesla Model 3 vehicles. After taking the reins of the Estero, Florida-headquartered company, Scherr doubled down on the green vision, committing to purchased another 65,000 EVs from Polestar, a Swedish company.
December 2023, Hertz emphatically demonstrated that its massive EV push just wasn’t working out, throwing 20,000 EVs into the used-car market to start a systematic liquidation planned to extend through 2024. “The company expects to reinvest a portion of the proceeds from the sale of EVs into the purchase of internal combustion engine vehicles to meet customer demand,” Hertz said at the time, adding, “The company expects this action to better balance supply against expected demand of EVs.”
The resale of fleet cars is a key driver of rental car companies’ profitability. On that front, Tesla threw a wrench in Hertz’s financials by aggressively slashing prices across its product line, crushing the resale values of not only Teslas, but the entire EV market. Top-selling EV’s saw their secondary-market prices plunge by almost a third in 2023.
Poor resale value isn’t the only EV liability biting Hertz — the company also pointed to the high cost of collision repairs. “For context, collision and damage repairs on an EV can often run about twice that associated with a comparable combustion engine vehicle,” Scherr noted in an October third-quarter conference call…
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/hertz-ceo-out-firm-seeks-traction-after-big-ev-bet-goes-bust
Prior to joining Hertz, Scherr spent 28 years at Goldman Sachs in several different strategic and operational leadership roles.[2] Before leaving Goldman Sachs, Scherr served as the Chief Financial Officer from 2018 to 2021.[3]
In 2016, Scherr led Goldman Sachs’ launch of consumer banking, branded as Marcus.[2] He also served as CFO during the firm’s launch of AppleCard, in partnership with Apple, Inc., in 2019.[4][5]
Scherr is on the Board of the Jewish Museum of New York and a member of the Council on Foreign Relations.
CFR, bring out the cross and garlic.
Where Ted Cruz’s wife, Heidi, was on the board!
This is what happens, when you believe your own hype.
Its not the first time, by any means…
So easy to make this stupid thing go AWAY!
Electric cars risk becoming uninsurable
20 Oct 2023
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/cars/news/electric-cars-risk-becoming-uninsurable/ar-AA1izMba
One reason attributed to the steep rise in the cost of electric car repairs stems from recommendations for electric cars to be kept 50ft apart in repair yards over fears they might explode.
Government guidelines suggest electric vehicles with damaged batteries should be “quarantined” from other cars due to the risk of battery fires, which are typically harder to put out than fires in petrol or diesel cars.
The London Fire Brigade has warned that fires involving lithium batteries are the fastest-growing fire risk in London, after it was called out to 87 e-bike and 29 e-scooter fires in 2022.
Paris’s transport operator withdrew 149 electric buses from operation last year after two ignited on separate occasions.
The website Tesla-Fire.com lists 25 reports of Teslas catching fire globally since the beginning of 2023.
Thatcham Research said insurers would need to spend an additional £900m a year on quarantine facilities for damaged cars as a result of the safety measures by 2035, as more battery-powered vehicles take to the roads, with the changes forecast to add £20 a year onto all car insurance premiums.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Loss of insurability would be the final nail in the EV coffin.
Electric Cars: Inconvenient Facts, Part 1 (4:58)
John Stossel
1,922,183 views – Nov 1, 2022
Electric Cars: Inconvenient Facts, Part 2 (6:05)
John Stossel
2,757,284 views – Nov 15, 2022
“,…before we have a electric generation and distribution grid caapable of supplying it.”
The author is short sighted, in 200 years, we can not POSSIBLE build out such a system capability, and quite probably NEVER.
He should have bought an old Land Rover!
Even those aren’t what they used to be. Tata own LR and Jaguar, both passed around from corporation to corporation…and losing more and more from their original fine engineering when the Brits owned them.
“That giant sucking sound”
Ah, that would be “Inconvenient facts, on EV’S self diving cars, part 3” narrated by Mitch McConnels SIL.
he may not have said it, but i say it will be both.
don’t get it – people are not buying ev’s as expected so new plants in MEX shouldn’t make a difference
Are they REALLY going to manufacture EVs in those plants?
Try to think like a dem for a moment: instead of swimming or walking across the border, they will be given a new EV to drive across. Attains 2 objectives…
Four doors?
Once gas and diesel are banned you won’t have a choice!!!
Well, you can run a diesel on soy diesel, made (in your back yard) from used restaurant grease, and a gas engine can run on woodsmoke.
And, in a mad max world, you can turn plastic back into refined diesel/kerosene, gasoline, and butane/propane.
And then lead your horses to water.
That’s what social credit scores and government CBCDs are for. There’s strong incentive to buy an EV when buying gasoline is a privilege reserved only for the wealthy and compliant.
Financial bloodbath!
The agenda is to crash the auto industry and create mayhem. There are a plethera of videos of EV vehicles in China self combustion. Those poor people don’t even have time to get out of the cars. Buildings are going up in flames everywhere because the cars errupt in flames, and the problem is, you cant put the fire out. This is the goal, burn it all down, BBB. in satans image.
Let it rot. Let them all reap what they have sewn
Uniparty with 2 Council On Foreign Relations member Presidents. Didn’t matter which CFR member or party did it, they are one and the same.
^^^^^^^^^
There’s that Heglelian thingy again.
“Hey America, you have a choice between ‘our’ choices.”
TY BK, I’ve been trying to get this point across here since I have been here. It’s their methodology. Once you understand its easier to see the play & the actors. My appreciation sir. (Also of course a big ty to Sundance)
Its getting thru, colkitto.
And you have educated many like me, who really had no idea WHAT Clinton was doing in Yugoslavia, and that whole supporting muslims, etc.
Really ties together what they did later with ISIS and Azoz, and confirms it was intentional.
Thanks from my peers here, especially those like you, its almost the top honor. Getting an article posted here like our Regitiger is tops.
My salutations dutch
CEO of Hertz is CFR and former CFO of Goldman Sachs!
LOL! He used Hertz to bail out Goldman Sachs investment in EVs.
If you or I tried that, we would be told “No, you can’t use your Visa card, to pay off your Master card balance!”
Lord Mugabe used Barclay’s to run the former Rhodesia into the ground and hand it to China per the Fabian Globalist plans for Africa and I suspect Europe, Australia,Canada, & America
So, do we know fer shure that these three plants are going to build EVs? Who said so? Could they be used to build gas cars? Tanks? Guns? EMPs? ??????
Weaponry for the invaders aka “Green Dawn”
👉Insert any product such as fentanyl (etcetera) and anything is possible 👈
Whatever they are building, these factories are YUGE!
Are they solely ‘factories’ of predeployed logistics centers for future military operations????
🤔
That would be my suspicion.
‘New’ World Order=China
Journalism is not about telling the truth but just peddling false narratives that fit the leftist agenda.
👉 aka “propaganda”👈
Not only is the MSM a lying bag of sad sacks…. but so are the environazis.
EVs… in general, an EV is a vehicle that uses an electric motor to drive the wheels. The on board power may come from a big battery (BEV), an internal combustion engine (ICE) driving a generator (hybrid, PHEV), a hydrogen fuel cell (FCEV) a pico fusion plant or unicorns (San Franciskovich and Hollywoodski ).
The BEVS are the preferred version for the apparatchiks and their masters. The MSM pushes that as the ONLY EV available, and so many people are stuck on that notion.
They all share the virtues of an electric motor drive: instant throttle response, gobs of off the line torque and (in the case of the hybrids ) twice the efficiency of an ICE ( engine running optimized for power generation ).
Now then, the FCEV is likely the best option… quiet, smooth, powerful and easy to refuel. But the nomenklature in Sacramentograd killed it off ( we had a ’18 Honda Clarity FCEV ). Claming that hydrogen is a “carbon fuel”… huh? And the electricity from the wall must come from methane free unicorn farts, huh?
Second option is the serial hybrid and the FCEV ( a variation of the serial hybrid ). They are also very smooth and very efficient as the ICE runs with low pumping losses ( maximized throttle opening ). One of the bonuses on the serial hybrids is the range. Many of them have a full tank range of 500+ miles.
Third option is the BEV, which is a good solution for cars driven in a metropolis, close to their charging station and not used for long drives on the rural interstates ( or drives longer than their range ).
It’s hard to put a price on the FCEVs as they’re still an experiment on wheels. The BEV are expensive because of the battery, hence you only see them on luxo mobiles as it’s hard to sell a bare bones eco-car with an uber expensive battery…
The serial hybrids, and PHEVs, OTOH are excellent compromises. You get the EV drive, the fuel efficiency and reasonable cost. Refueling is gasoline, so that’s easy.
We current have a Honda Clarity PHEV and a Honda Accord Touring (iMMD serial hybrid).
We’ve also had a Clarity FCEV, two Accord iMMDs and one Civic IMA (parallel hybrid).
I’ve driven my friends’ big, luxo Teslas and they are a hoot, very powerful, but their ergonomics suck, their cost is huge and refueling them is an inconvenience.
I think Honda and Toyota are selling serial hybrids… they’ve made their bet with them.. and by the seat of my pants, they have made a wise choice.
BEVs will have to drop in price big time. As they are, they tend to be a replacement of the Benz, Bimmer, Audio, Jag… etc… that’s what I see in my town… big luxo mobiles, buy this is a small market for people with money and several cars.
Note: A BEV Porsche… only a knucklehead would buy that.
Yrah, HYDROGEN instead of batteries, cause that will address the fire problem. eyeroll
Hindenburg enters the chat.
Re.inds me of the short conversation Howard Bughs had with the 2 MIT graduates he hired, that built him a steam car, where the condencers were built into the body panels.
Picked up a 3 pound sledge,…said “Imagine this is a ’49 Ford” and threw it at the warmed up and idling steam car.
Punched a hole, steam that would have par boiled the inhabitants came out.
“Cut it up in pieces no bigger than 5″ square, and scrap it,…then your fired!”
Dunno if that’s any better then trying to increase the energy density by using a different battery chemistry to be on par with hydrocarbon fuels like gasoline or diesel.
Would be much more volatile then these lithium batteries and nigh indistinguishable from explosives. 🤷♂️
Pelosi is saying Trump says there will be a bloodbath so Democrats have to win.
Her dishonesty is dangerous.
If Republicans had any integrity the House would reprimand her.
Ir Repuicans had any integrity the House would hang her.
FIFY
If republicans had any integrity we wouldn’t be having these conversations.
Actually, she’s just dim enough to believe it
99% of Chinese products suck. Forced communist labor is not a good labor pool.
Actually thats not why conmunists have NEVER been good at producing products, or for that matter fighting wars.
The faux ideology nurtures corruption and inefficiency, big time.
And the society that puts its political dissidents into a human organ donor gulag, also shreds the innovators and creative thinkers.
Look what little Rhodesia did against China/Soviets/UN/US/UK, held them off for years and the only reason they lost was because they got backstabbed by the UK & traitors in the SA political offices, not the SA military who despised what the government did to them.
Weak men and women project their issues onto others.
Trump is really, really bad, racist, sexist, hateful, etc.
Great guys…..
Trump is correct, again. A bit like Rush.
Nice Uniparty traitors pic.
What a bunch of bs. Bailing out the bankers. NAFTA was/is economic treason.
Anatomy of an economic debacle: How the Fed proposed bailing out Mexico to pass NAFTA
The inside story of how the supposedly “above politics” bank lobbied — and facilitated a currency and trade crisis
https://www.salon.com/2014/02/07/anatomy_of_an_economic_debacle_how_the_fed_proposed_bailing_out_mexico_to_pass_nafta/
We’re supposed to believe that China after spending billions to build EV plants on the Mexican side of the United States border…
…is going to invade Taiwan and start World War III…with the United States?
Am I missing something!
They “SAY” the plants are for EV production…….
BINGO!
Precisely. Add that they import most of their oil and agricultural inputs. An interception of their supply chain collapses industry and results in famine. China lives as long as we let it live.
ALX 🇺🇸
@alx
BREAKING: Newly unearthed post from @politico shows they encouraged Democrats to enact a “BLOODBATH” in the Capitol after losing elections.
Pretty sure this means they have to be shut down for our Democracy or something.
Cont….
Bloodbath everywhere.
—
ALX 🇺🇸
@alx
Wait until the Biden campaign hears what Biden said to his primary opponent in 2020!…
Spoken as the mafioso that he is.
regardless if its china, us, or some euro trash EV, the ONLY way for EV cars to make a serious leap forward?
a. that magic 30,000 $USD basic entry price. This was “promised”, but never happened. It’s actually quite simple to manufacture and sell an electric car and make a nice profit at the 30,000 price point. Most people (non engineers) don’t really understand why electric cars are far easier and more simple to build, with only a few odd caveats. Understanding this simple truth, one has to realize just how much profit margin actually happens with Tesla cars at 60,000 plus. China has always built a cheaper economical ev that doesn’t pretend to fill every need…range, or all the silly bells and whistles, like “auto pilot” (which it never was auto pilot).
b. that the gouging at the electric filling stations must end…that competition and delinking from government and state funding…allows the market to select the proper and right sized pricing for energy to fuel EV. Right now, fact is that most EV owners are spending about 300 percent markup on electric energy at these electric filling stations. The ONLY way to buy affordable and reasonably priced electric energy is from a level 2 or 3 HOUSE panel, installed, where the local utility rates are not ALLOWED BY LAW to up price rates simple because you expanded your “house power”!! But then not everyone’s house/abode has the capacity to have this scalability either. Some are locked into the simple 120 volt, 20-30 amp maximum, and that means the range for daily driving is limited…limited to the bounds of back and forth from home to wherever it is you want to go.
c. insurance premiums for ev cars are about 2-4 times higher than classic IC motored vehicles. There is no such thing as a inexpensive fender bender in an EV car. try to replace a tire or rim…break out at least a 1,000 dollar bill! replace a panel or windshield…second mortgage loan on your home. not kidding.
d. complexity means there is no local talent to maintain and repair your EV car. Compound this with warranty contracts that FORBID you from doing self repairs or to third party shops who do not have license. Compare this to millions of cars that can be repaired simply, cheaply with a very deep after market parts infrastructure. this simply does not exist for EV cars..and likely never will…trapped by complexity.
e. the truth about cost and efficiency rages on. What is the real cost of a EV car, cradle to grave? to the owner, to the environment, to the procession of regulation (which always ends up making things more costly, and often cost prohibitive for new competition). If you applied the same evironmental laws and regulations on sourcing and producing lithium and other rare metals as is currently applied to oil and natural gas, steel and other metals for IC motored vehicles, then the true cost is apparent. Right now, this cost is hidden by selective policy and regulation. China does not have these stupid regulations, but the way they force it is similar: they simply force manufacturers to produce EV cars…in fact, we can make startling comparison of equal between the US and chinese central state about how they have induced and directed major manufacturers.
f. from a national security review, EV are very dangerous. they can be hacked more than any other form of transportation…over the air updates..they are likely subject to more tracking and surveillance…fire fighters have no means to quench a lithium fire…it makes it’s own oxygen…this is a perfect weapon of mass destruction…just wait…it will happen. if/WHEN the grid goes down (hurricanes, tornadoes, fires, snow, flood, OTHER), ev’s become useless and become traps…millions who depend on them for transportation will be stranded..investments into expanding the national electric grid to pave the way for the “EV revolution” is going too slow….and it mostly ruined by local and state interests in the great game of grift and graft. this means, the actually demand on electric energy will always be at a rate higher than that is being built to supply for it. This creates a dangerous consequence going forward where available and dependable grid power is subject to brown outs and black outs, or worse, state and local (and national) policy decisions to flip the switch when things get too difficult to manage. this means FOR SURE that certain areas will be suffer power “starvation” more than other areas. This will also mean that energy will become far more expensive.
g. cultural changes and the end of the American Romance With the Automobile. This is really important. This isn’t just the totem of supporting muscle and classic cars. but fundamentally, the idea of individual mobility..the freedom TO ROAM..to just pack up and GO. This is what is going to end. The loss of adventure.. EV cars are also very boring. It does not inspire the tinkering young man or young woman who wants to understand how things work and maybe even do some improvements. Again, this cannot be overstated just how important this has been in the cultural experience for Americans for the last near 100 years. What we are about to replace this is “appliance” experience…utility and only that. There will be no movies made about EV cars. It will be an empty transactional experience. This makes me sad for the future generation that will not get the experience that so many of us have had in our lives. the thrills and excitement of owning a car of your own that you can depend on to take you to the next big adventure. that doesn’t spy on you if you want to have some fun.
God Bless America
EVs make some sense as a smaller vehicle for in-town driving to stores, restaurants and other short trips. You must have your own house with a garage for charges and probably solar panels.
And so the fire won’t burn down your neighbors.
Too much wasted effort on EV analysis. I have talked with many dealer and non-dealer mechanics: EVs are not ready for prime time. They never will be. The future of travel technology has not yet discovered. Some brilliant young person will come along at some point and make a huge discovery and invent the next mode of travel technology. I’ll never see it. I will happily drive my Shelby into the sunset 🌅.
Examples of Insurrection..
A: American War for Independence.
B: French Revolution
C: Haitian Revolution
D: The Civil War
E: Russian Revolution
F: Irish Easter Uprising
This is what an Insurrection looks like…
Michael Collins – Easter Uprising
G: Vietcong insurrection against the US supported government of South Vietnam.
H: Taliban insurrection against the US installed government of Afghanistan.
I: Hamas insurrection against humanity.
Exactly! There are lots of insurrections in history. J6 wasn’t one of them!
The 1st and 2nd Boer War.
French Indochina
Dutch East Indies
Sepoy Rebellion
Lawrence of Arabia
Boxer Rebellion
We can have a contest!
Rhodesia telling the UK Globalist vermin to F off!
And, in how many did the insurrectionists ultimately prevail, and throw off their oppressors?
confederate states defending economic security against a corrupt industrialist north? (the so called union?)
too soon? too late?
insurrection has a special meaning…specific meaning. despite the efforts of this corrupt central states’ efforts to topple monuments, remove flags, and demean the true history of America by rewriting the history to support a statist federal (globalist?) agenda, we should examine carefully, with objectivity what exactly was the conflict that led to the civil war. As much as this is going to cause room panic, nikki Haley was actually correct and avoided (properly) to engage in the slavery factor..this does not mean I support her in any way; simply, it was refreshing to see a person of considerable education “buck the current trend”. Sometimes, the strangest people say things that get the corrupt state in a panty twist. She certainly did that. Regardless, I admire the obvious purpose in here statements. even doubling down. (not to be confused: she will NEVER have a place in MAGA..period)
insurrection is a very american word…we should stick to what it really means..and what it doesn’t.
haitian gang criminals hardly merit the term is what I am saying. Chicago drug fueled violence does not merit the term insurrection.
the young American who revolted, righteously, to the overlords of the british crown that had stripped them entirely of property and freedom rights….that’s an insurrection.
confederate soldiers who joined voluntarily to fight against the stealing, northern industrialists who did not want to negotiate a means for the south to operate as a sovereign SET OF STATES…that is an insurrection..a civil war insurrection,
and noting: we are at stage 4 revolution: transfer of power.
don’t blink…this one will be televised.
God Bless America
confede
With appreciation to your fine post sir, The American Experience 3 part of Lincoln told the truth, Lincoln repeatedly said until a later time, that the Civil War was to preserve the Union.
Actually the civil war wasn’t an insurrection. There was no attempt to overthrow the US government. The Confederate states merely wanted their own government.
Yea, that little firing on Fort Sumter probably was a treasonous act or something?
The left controls the military and hence any bloodbath.
Well, no.
U.S. Military how many million?
U.S. Citisenry, how many million,?
Joe told them they can have the same subsidies the “American” car makers are getting right?
Pompous ass, which is funny that they ALWAYS give the punchline to the joke before the joke is spoke! 🤣
I posted on social media:
Time for a “BLOODBATH EDITION” Ford F-150 or RAM!
Equipped exclusively with a big, CO2 spewing V8; Mar-a-Lago leather seats and MAGA rims!
If either Ford of RAM had the cajones to actually offer one, it’d sell better than the sneakers (IMHO). They don’t have the requisite cajones, however – instead, they’re pushing Erectile Vanishing vehicles, i.e., EV’s.
Tom Wigand (“American Discerner” on Substack)
Viva and Barnes starting a Rumble live stream with this subject
The White House announced a new “Bevis and Butthead” campaign strategy.
“You said butt, heh, heh,heh.”
“You said cornhole, hee, hee, hee.”
The only American EV automaker that can compete with the Chinese is Tesla. By the end of the decade, the auto industry will be completely different.
I only trust The Epoch Times, Project Veritas and The Conservative Treehouse. These out-of-context scare tactic headlines can only be a coordinated psy-op, because they are bought and sold and THEY’RE SCARED. Get the pitchforks. –€
When I use a word,” Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, “it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.”
“The question is,” said Alice, “whether you can make words mean so many different things.”
“The question is,” said Humpty Dumpty, “which is to be master – – that’s all.”
Interesting that many automakers (Ford, BMW, Audi) have scaled back or decided not to produce ev’s.
People just don’t want them.
Mainstream Media Humiliated After Caught Lying About Trump’s ‘Bloodbath’ Remarks
https://www.infowars.com/posts/mainstream-media-humiliated-after-caught-lying-about-trumps-bloodbath-remarks
Propaganda nozzle media.
EV rhetoric has been about 20 yrs ahead of Ev reality.
FMSM.
“Recent analyses have brought to light an unexpected reality: the majority of EV owners in the USA belong to the demographic sweet spot of liberal suburban house husbands. These individuals, characterized by their progressive leanings…”
https://www.autospies.com/news/IT-S-TEST-TIME-THE-NEW-SOCCER-MOM-WHAT-Percentage-of-EV-Owners-In-the-USA-Do-You-Think-Are-LIBERAL-SUBURBAN-HOUSE-HUSBANDS-119149/
So, testical deprived namby pamby cucks, then?
Democrats the PARTY of word weaponization, and projection but MSM has lost credibility and people are starting to understand propaganda.
I would never buy an electric vehicle.
Me neither. Nope.
President Trump is a genius. Remember ‘covfefe?’ Comments like this get him TONS of free press time, keep the talking heads blathering on about it for days and when all is said and done THEY are revealed for the fools that they are.