Serendipitously, or not – depending on who you talk to, I was previously scheduled to be in DC at the moment of inflection for the passage of HR7521, the proverbial “TikToK Ban Law.” Allow me to encapsulate the issues and present the point of those who say there is nothing to worry about.
First, the context that should matter (it doesn’t because the USIC are in charge here) is that every element that preceded the passage of the Patriot Act is being duplicated in the passage of the TikTok ban. Which is to say, everyone is deferring to this ridiculous need to support USA National Security.
We The People have been burned by this approach before, yet so many refuse to see the similarity.
Second, the essential shield for those who support the bill [READ HR7521] comes down to the term “Foreign Adversary”, which is defined in the bill as Russia, China, North Korea and Iran. As they make the case, TikTok ban advocates cite the content or platform of the issue must originate from, and/or be controlled by, a foreign adversary…. so quit worrying.
However, the legislative language cites Foreign Adversary Controlled Application (FACA), which applies to content providers, apps, websites, social media and hosting platforms. This is where things get sketchy, because “under the direction of” is language that is included in the legislation, and the determinations of “at the direction of” are made by the Attorney General.
If the content, platform, website, or social media app generates content that is considered a national security threat, and providing information therein that is deemed to be under the control of a “foreign adversary,” it is the content within, not necessarily the platform ownership itself, that transfers compliance inquiry to the U.S government (DOJ Attorney General) for definitions.
If, for example, a U.S. company (think Twitter or CTH) is deemed to be providing information that is controlled by Russia, or actors who participate in the platform content on behalf of Russia (expand your FARA thinking here), then the U.S. or non-Foreign Adversary designation, may result in review subject to the terms of service as created and defined by the DOJ. In this example, the “Foreign Adversary” designation is simply a nose under the tent.
The DOJ, through this act, essentially becomes the overarching determination of terms of service (TOS) that can supersede the TOS of the platform or website. Want to fight the definition or determination… prepare to spend big money fighting a battle exclusively in the DC Circuit Court of Appeals, as that’s the only place you can appeal the determination of the govt.
As multiple people on the Fox News conservative side of the equation, and a host of seemingly oddly trusting voices who have previously presented themselves in alignment with common principles of freedom, all seem to accept the government would never weaponize this authority. THAT, I find frustratingly odd.
All of the totalitarians (bad people) support this bill, and almost all of the popular conservative voices seemingly agree with them. Color me frustrated.
I do not wish this post to be a bookmark for the time when “Itoldyasos” hold weight; but at this point, it seems like this is the only value in discussion. Too many people on both sides of the political continuum are in favor of HR7521 to seemingly stop it. Now it’s up to the Senate, who will find a way to make money from it and then support it.
Despite my pointing out that Joe Biden previously indicated how he would define these terms; [A conspiracy minded reviewer of the HR 7521 language should look at EXECUTIVE ORDER 14034] my reference point was met with crossed-eyes and the customary look as if a cow just licked them on the face.
(c) The term “country of concern” means any foreign government that, as determined by the Attorney General pursuant to section 2(c)(iii) or 2(f) of this order, has engaged in a long-term pattern or serious instances of conduct significantly adverse to the national security of the United States or the security and safety of United States persons, and poses a significant risk of exploiting bulk sensitive personal data or United States Government-related data to the detriment of the national security of the United States or the security and safety of United States persons, as specified in regulations issued by the Attorney General pursuant to section 2 of this order.
(Section 7 definitions, item (C) – LINK Feb, ’24)
Look, I’m not nuts… and I understand how these silos of contained information work. That citation above, was created before HR-7521 was in the public psyche. What is cited above is part of a Biden intent to “Protect Americans’ Sensitive Data from Foreign Adversaries,” and it was updated about six weeks ago.
It is almost “as if” that executive order was updated purposefully to be used in combination with HR7521. I think it was. However, DC-minded people think I am crazy for using that citation as part of the argument about how the DOJ will define the terms in the TikTok law.
From my perspective, the two issues [HR7521 and XO 14043] are directly related. They both apply to the exact same issue. I believe that recent executive order was created by people behind the Biden administration who were proactively positioning themselves in advance of the new legal authority that was going to be provided by congress in the TikTok ban. But everyone tells me I’m crazy and asks, “How the F**K did you remember that?”
♦ If you look at HR7521 from the position of intent to control online information (not data collection), and if you take a more cynical view of how HR7521 is purposefully vague, and if you overlay how XO-14043 lays out the definitions that Biden will use, then you might find yourself more in agreement with my concerns.
♦ If you do not look at it that way, then yes – CTH is a crazy conspiracy website with a track record of predicting outcomes from a crazy conspiratorial point of view. Exactly the type of website that must be under the influence of a foreign adversary, an independent way of looking at the constructs of government that end up manifesting later in our reality.
I digress.
On the intent of the TikTok ban law, everyone pretends to forget the Patriot Act intent; I don’t.
For a tldr summary; watch the video in this TWEET
What Does the TikTok Bill ACTUALLY Say? pic.twitter.com/SfpBChwdNb
— DV (@DV2O24) March 14, 2024
That link says, in part, “The prohibition applies not just to the app itself but to App Stores and internet hosting providers.”
In case you are not paying attention, the Apple iPhone App store has been banning conservative apps for at least 5 years. This legislation just gives Apple political cover.
This isnt about Apple.
Apple was just used as an example.
Apple will be part of the scheme.
Apple might be the new owners of Tik Tok
Probably.
Astute.
Sure it is. Frank is SPOT ON!
It’s all about Apple and no one else?
paying attention
“Everybody talks about how they were taken off the app stores and lost their web servers, but reality is…”
https://rumble.com/v42u375-taking-a-multi-billion-dollar-valuation-of-a-company-and-destroying-it-over.html
“foreign adversary controlled …”
Oh … so they mean like Putin is controlling everything PDJT says and does. Because they’ve blackmailed him over pee tapes or something. Anything … it doesn’t matter. Because Trump is “foreign adversary controlled”.
About the sum of it.
Therefore when he wins the election the “attorney general” will determine he is under “foreign adversary control” and must not be allowed to take office.
Bingo!
Yes.
Biden Caught Using Tik Tok Influencers to Spread Propaganda Blaming Gas Prices on Putin
https://www.planet-today.com/2022/03/biden-caught-using-tik-tok-influencers.html
Interesting interview about this:
Well … I read it from SD first. And other people who I respect … for their coherent, consistent, thoughts agree. I’ve never gotten near TikTok … but I have no fear of TikTok. Now Google? It’s a multifaceted monopoly. Break it up. De consolidate its power.
Agree with that too.
It’s weasels all the way down.
More than weasels. No X good or bad because Elon. No Truth Social because Trump/Russia. Telegram has a Russian owner IIRC. Rumble ? Not if Biden can decide.
Last I checked, some guys in Tampa IIRC owned Rumble before it went public.
But they could still hit them with content.
It’s a proven FACT that Americans are both stupid and ignorant with this simple explanation… They can’t stop voting for the same politicians.
The same politicians are always on the BALLOTs. We aren’t stupid when we have NO Choice.
You always have a choice!
Um…no.
Seems to me in the last few decades the choice is bad or worse.
See McCain and Romney
Winner winner chicken dinner, Annie. The Establishment gives us the illusion of choice.
3rd party.
What if they aren’t on the ticket, or there is no 3rd party candidate available for the office you’re voting on?
Write in.
Who, if there is NONE?
Evasive
Silly. In Nevada we are not allowed to write in candidates. How utterly simplistic of you.
I have yet to see a 3rd party that was anything other than an illusion.
At best, they lame one side of the uniparty, guaranteeing the other side of the uniparty wins.
Libertarian & Green Party Candidates Arrested
…presidential candidates Michael Badnarik (Libertarian) and David Cobb (Green Party) were just arrested. Badnarik was carrying an Order to Show Cause, which he intended to serve the Commission on Presidential Debates (CPD). Earlier today, Libertarians attempted to serve these same papers at the Washington, D.C. headquarters of the CPD – but were stopped from approaching the CPD office by security guards.
*news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3740146.stm
CPD
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2020/10/09/fantastic-research-presidential-debate-commission-ideology-exposed-chairman-connected-to-soros-color-revolution-and-steele-dossier-group/
So the uniparty wins anyway.
What we have is the illusion of choice. Dutch always says we have to take back our State Republican Parties. I can speak to Supposedly Bright Red Tennessee. The Delegates for the Convention are an easy way to view the State Party Leadership and they were Haley, DeSantis Committed. We have open primaries; so, the Democrats can cross over and make sure RINOs win. We are not throwing in the towel but it is going to be a long slog to change things. The Governor, Secretary of Stae, and AG do not care that the schools indoctrinate not educate, that the Department of Health promotes policies that kill, or that our cities are becoming unlivable.
It’s incredible how people here of all places still believe that elections aren’t rigged. The majority of America voted for Trump in 2020 to put a stop to this nonsense and the election was stolen from us. We did NOT vote for this.
And they did it boldly and without fear of being held accountable so now they are completely emboldened to do whatever it takes. We need Divine intervention.
900 election fraud cases
AG Ken Paxton Sues to End NGO’s Operations In Texas
https://rumble.com/v4eum3n-ag-ken-paxton-sues-to-end-ngos-operations-in-texas.html
…And then we collectively did next to NOTHING about it. 😔😡
The USIC that you mention in the background of this controls the Legislative and Executive (Biden) branches as evidenced by the content of the legislation as you correctly pointed out as well as the content and timing of the executive order.
As for the press, particularly large networks (Fox being your example), the same thing. Forget the Murdochs.
Operation Mockingbird.
William Colby during 1975 Church Committee Hearings:
“The CIA owns everyone pf any significance in the major media.”
Has anything really changed?
And IC Trifecta!
The need for control is a reaction to fear, said someone.
Introducing Iarpa: It’s Like Darpa, But for Spies
Iarpa (just say “yarpa”) is designed to do for the intelligence community what Darpa (the Defense Advanced ResearchProjects Agency) has done for the Pentagon. Darpa was founded back in 1958 with an unusual mandate — conduct military research outside military labs. Its successes have included, oh, the Internet and the Global Positioning System.
https://www.wired.com/2008/03/st-alphageek-10/
Huh.
I’m all over that starting today.
Thanks.
So the CIA owns everyone of significance. Who owns the CIA? Origins? Asking for a friend.
Well…
Blackstone and its crony funds own about 95% of everything, right?
Just an idea…
Globalist Banksters.
“We The People have been burned by this approach before, yet so many refuse to see the similarity.”
And the burn is even more severe when the courts refuse to even entertain any argument that involves said National Security.
As claimed by those wanting to hide things that most severely need judicial review.
SSDD – Nuff said!
Yes. It’s old, VikingMom.
“In this example the “Foreign Adversary” designation is simply a nose under the tent.”
Nay. In this example, it is blowing up the tent with a nuke.
This tells me ANY information, COVID, Hunter’s laptop, Russian Collusion, if they declare there is some foreign involvement in providing information, ALL information on the topic will then be verboten other than the approved narrative.
There is nothing more clear on this than the Hunter laptop issue where 51 hacks declared it to be Russian disinfo.
This simply codifies their ability to shut down any uncomfortable facts. Anywhere they appear.
I haven’t yet clearly articulate my rationale for this thought, but between this legislation and the pending WHO regulations (in which they control all aspects of public health in an emergency for all members on the globe), I see a connection and a huge boot coming down on our necks.
Enemy Combatant
https://duckduckgo.com/?t=lm&q=Department+of+Justice+Withdraws+%C2%93Enemy+Combatant%C2%94+Definition+for+Guantanamo+Detainees&ia=web
DVE
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/10/04/dhs-designates-president-trump-supporters-as-domestic-violent-extremists/
“With crossed-eyes and the customary look as if a cow just licked them on the face.”
Thank you for that image!
Made the rest of the frustrating report from the belly of the beast a bit more palatable.
Was pretty good.
For a moment, I thought he was going to use a verse from Henley’s “If Dirt Were Dollars” – “… looked at me uncomprehendingly like cows at a passing train.”
😆 🤣 😂
“my reference point was met with crossed-eyes and the customary look as if a cow just licked them on the face.”
The same look all the legislators give when you try to talk sense to them… even when it comes down to simple math.
Sundance, thank you. Should the day come when they suppress this site… know that you have done all humanly possible to educate the populace and trust in God that it was enough in His Sight.
Let God handle the rest.
Be safe and you deserve a Presidential Medal of Freedom for your relentless efforts. May our country’s history books remember you fondly kind Sir.
Hear, Hear!!
Welp…..since God’s Word did not originate within the United States then it stands to reason, according to this proposed legislation, that God’s Word is that of a “Foreign Adversary” and therefore must be banned.
If anyone believes they are not, right now seriously scheming on how to declare the Word insurectionist, and ban it you are hopelessly naive.
It’s coming and those who know this have known for awhile. Thing that the demons don’t understand though is that His Word cannot be stopped.
Discernment, thy name is Resolute. The minds here are amazing.
AMEN
Sundance is writing the history books as we speak.
Sure hope hard copy somewhere
Your thoughts are gems! Thanks for putting into words what so many of us think , feel and wish.
God Bless you.
Amen!
Republicans just want to replace democrat tyranny with republican tyranny.
There is no such thing.
It’s Globalist Corporate Fascism… the political parties don’t matter.
“I hope we shall… crush in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to the laws of our country.”
–Thomas Jefferson to George Logan, 1816
“An elective despotism was not the government we fought for.
–Thomas Jefferson, 1782
Biden gets to decide who is foreign. Google can’t be foreign/sarc. Microsoft can’t possibly be foreign because Bill Gates. Meta can’t be foreign, Zuck lives in HI.
But a spy balloon can pass from one cosst to another over our military bases and that’s just fine.
Start buying printing presses. Newspapers and magazines coming back.
Boy, do I regret letting my iBM Selectric go many years ago……
They are still available, and fortunately IBM made so many, there are still some around..ebay prices from $50-$500, ribbens and balls available, too.
The IBM selectric that Wayne owned is what allowed the FIBs to ruin this man. He was never compensated for what the Feds did to him. Not unlike Richard Jewel.
Dox them all, so that we may “know” them
https://www.nytimes.com/1996/09/27/us/ex-suspect-in-89-blasts-says-investigators-lied.html.
Listened to Sam Faddis talk about how Bin Laden went old school: pen and paper, couriers, no electronic devices into the compound…
Might be time to go shopping, or improve my penmanship.
Yes. Action/reaction. Those with a brain can figure it out. Digital dollars? Barter. etcetera etcetera.
Don’t forget to write in cursive as no one under thirty knows how to write it or read it!
Good point!
I am also grateful to the Almighty that I got a successful surgery for arthritis last year on my dominant hand and can now go back to handwriting, which I had been forced to abandon for a year or so…
Brings back memories of word processors, dot matrix printers, and 2-part, 3-part, 4-part carbon paper. Oh, and ginormous floppy discs and computers the size of 3 modern printers today.
strong broad shoulders.
We’ll discuss the backside calendar later.
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Dictatorship is getting old.
Perfect picture, conveys the image of watching the gathering storm clouds. A nice update or companion photo of the redheaded woman.
Good analysis and analogy.
The Patriot Act experience certainly adds background regarding expectations of future actions under this law, as does the DC Circuit Judicial monopoly.
I ate the tainted cheese of The Patriot Act … and I will never ever again swallow tainted government cheese.
As did I.
The taste has been horrible.
There will not be another bite.
I smell the stench of another DHS type bureaucracy in the works.
…..and I can think of several other things that the CCP is doing within the US that makes tik tok look like childs play. Bio-weapons labs anyone?
All I have to say on the matter – fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
Sundance, great picture, nice to see you, sort of. Lol
All the usual suspects behind this are totalitarians, moving to secure their influence and power from any challenges.
Prepare accordingly and refuse to be a hapless victim. Difficult choices will have to be made and inaction by ignoring it may well be the worst of them all.
Even my little brother
who has been…not
involved in politics…
is in an uproar about
this.👏👏
Todays conversation was
all about TikTock, vote
them all out, term limits,
1st Amendment, open
border-and those old
crypt keepers are worried
about TikToc??
And he doesn’t even use
TikToc.🤣
All I did was just listen…
and Smile 😊
Seems that the more
“stupid” politicians do..
the more people are
getting riled up.
Of course I added a few
more details about the Bill
he wasn’t aware of .😊
The US Government says they will protect us from China, but who will protect us from the US Government?
The government wants the ability to track your every movement, monitor your every purchase, and record your every conversation. It’s been the dream of totalitarians since the dawn of time, and the nightmare of every freedom loving individual for just as long. In the past, our freedom loving ancestors would remove themselves from prying eyes and ears. Now people carry those prying eyes and ears around with them in their pockets where ever they go.
You want to protect yourself? Get rid of your “smart” phone. Do it! Do it now! You can thank me later.
“The means of defense against foreign danger have been always the instruments of tyranny at home.“
James Madison – Speech, Constitutional Convention (June 29, 1787)
Madison was just an old white guy. What did he know?
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Actually, a pretty young guy. 🙂
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“All of the totalitarians (bad people) support this bill, and almost all of the popular conservative voices seemingly agree with them.”
Its all the same people all over again, thus I am off the bus.
“If you look at HR7521 from the position of intent to control online information (not data collection), and if you take a more cynical view of how HR7521 is purposefully vague, and if you overlay how XO-14043 lays out the definitions that Biden will use, then you might find yourself more in agreement with my concerns.“
Perzactly. I do.
This is the kiss before we all get screwed again.
Just try to read and understand the implications of that Executive Order. I feel like I’ve been licked by a cow’s tongue.
It sounds like Tik-Tok was already done for because it was collecting Bulk Personal Data but-
Regulations had to be made by the AG and head of Department of Homeland Security but-
Regulations are supposed to come from empowering legislation. Not just Executive dictate.
Which circles back to the EO being the precursor of the Tic-Toc bill.
It seems they get to divide people into access and no access by defining terms any way they want.
Who would vote for handing a political adversary the ability to eliminate your access to supporters data?
What would cause such a large bipartisan majority in the House to vote for a ban that is an affront to the 1A rights of the 170 million Americans for whom TikTok gives a voice and in some cases a lucrative seven-figure income? The answer is the Israeli lobbies!
AIPAC, ADL, and other Israeli interest groups have been open recently about the urgency of shutting down TikTok and if they get their way X will be next. In a leaked audio recording the ADL’s Jonathon Greenblatt said in a panicked voice “We have a TikTok problem”. Advocates for Israel have a HUGE PR problem now that social media platforms like TikTok and X give Americans (and other citizens of the world) an unfettered first-hand look at the savage and sadistic actions of “America’s Greatest Ally™” towards the Palestinian people. Those Palestinians who haven’t been slaughtered yet are now facing starvation thanks to Israel’s blockade of humanitarian aid.
The common refrain from the politicians has been that they are not banning TikTok just finding new “acceptable” owners which of course is the goal. It is no surprise therefore that being mentioned as acceptable new owners are people like Mark Zuckerberg, Steve Mnuchin, Larry Ellison, the founders of Alphabet, and other “members of the tribe”. Imagine how Mark Zuckerberg could influence the 2024 election if he was in control of TikTok! He spent over $300 million of his own money rigging the 2020 election!
Rand Paul has explained that TikTok is not owned by the Chinese government. 20% of the company is owned by the two Chinese engineers who founded the company. 60% is owned by foreign investors – mostly American companies like Sequoia Capital and Kohlberg Kravis Roberts with the remaining 20% by TikToks 6,000 employees most of whom are American. Its headquarters are in Singapore and its servers are run by Oracle in Houston. Citizen Lab confirmed in an investigation that no data flows through Chinese-based servers. There is no basis for banning this company.
Beyond the Israel lobby the Democratic party must be panicking now as a result of their unstinting support for Israel and its war crimes. An indication of how panicked the Dems are is the fact Chuck Schumer is calling for an election in Israel to replace Bibi The Baby Butcher with someone more palatable. They will do anything to get TikTok (and X if possible) in the hands of people reliably friendly to the Democratic party. What is sad is a majority of Republicans in the House have given them the ammunition that they need.
https://rumble.com/v4j9yp3-the-suspicious-timing-of-the-tiktok-ban-bill.html
Hmm. Interesting.
And all tje people that are in unison in supporting this bill, are totally ignoring that Joe is putting his campaign ads on,……?
TikToc!
Which makes sense, Joe is owned by CCP, TikTok is too.
Yes , Dutchman , Thank You !
I could have sworn I just read somewhere that joe and his campaign just signed on to tiktok !
Thought I was going
crazy / Thank You for mentioning it out loud 😀
Joe Biden just uploaded his first TikTok (2024)
https://wltreport.com/2024/02/13/biden-joins-tiktok-despite-national-security-concerns/
TikTok star parades around White House as ‘intern’ to boost vaccines (2021)
https://nypost.com/2021/08/10/tiktok-star-parades-around-white-house-to-boost-vaccines/
I noticed all of the so called conservative voices that are saying ‘this will be banning tic tok ‘ without reading the bill.
My guess is that these bad actors are getting paid to promote the bill.
Thanks Sundance for shedding light about this bill.
There is no coincidence that the uniparty is doing this before the election.
Why is Mnuchin trying to buy TikTock?
Theoretically, TikTok can avoid being banned, if it is sold, so that its not a Chinese, or CCP controlled company.
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The E.O. already is in place (like it or not, and I don’t, and valid or not — it’s arguably yet at least in part more executive branch unconstitutional pseudo-legislative overreach). And yes, I have no doubt that it can be misused, and little trust in our corrupt feds.
I get the concerns about fed abuse, also elsewhere concerns such as ongoing internal U.S.data collection (unaddressed by the law, ditto google et al., ditto current “indirect” censorship.)
However, I remain perplexed, because an E.O. cannot modify or dictate the terms or meanings of actual legislation (laws) unless the legislation expressly says that it does (which this legislation does not.)
As we have seen, even longstanding seemingly okay laws are being mischaracterized and deliberately misinterpreted with abuses these days, and many laws can be. I also think the jurisdictional clause is of high concern, process is punishment, etc. So lobby that? Or some other part of the legislation that is unclear? The E.O., though, such as it is and does, stands on its own.
Since it looks to me as if this law might pass in some form, perhaps it would be a good idea for those who clearly connect themselves or ownership in some way in China, NK, Russia, or Iran to disaffiliate.
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Hey… wait… Elon Musk was born in South Africa… hmm….
Rut Roh! Musk’s spaceX ship will be banned from returning from space and not be allowed to land in or near the USA. The new APP -Ender General, Lacy George Girlman, declares it so! Sound crazy? Think about it.
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By the way, there is much much caselaw in multiple areas of federal and state law addressing what is meant by “being controlled” by another person or entity — corporate law, noncompete law, discovery law, criminal law, laws dealing with hiding assets, many more…
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Which has one single venue for redress: The ultra corrupt DC Circuit Court of Appeals.
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So call Senators to change that provision such that if the law should come to apply to a domestic entity in which majority of ownership is situate in a particular state, jurisdiction and venue will lie in the federal circuit for that state.
I wouldn’t throw away everything. This law is better than just banning or eliminating tiktok and effectively censoring its use by so many; it takes the platform away from China.
And if some really think that non-owner user miscellany, posts could be reasonably interpreted as “control” of the platform, then lobby to clarify that.
I’m often not in alignment with Erick Erickson, but I think his article today is at least worth some thought. https://townhall.com/columnists/erickerickson/2024/03/15/tiktok-delenda-est-n2636517
As for the concerns about censorship, suppression, and lawfare, guess what: to the angst of all of us, it’s going on right now anyway, unrelated to this law.
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Why are you so concerned with what Tik Tok may have influence on and who owns it rather than the downstream dangers to private websites like CTH, AND the fact it would give even more control to IC controlled domestic social media like Google, X, and Meta to censor and run propaganda more than they already do?????
🤔
👁
TikTok is doing nothing that Facebook, Google, Instagram and Twitter is not already doing to its users.
Not to say that is good and bad but all the oooh-ing and aaahh-ing at specifically TikTok..
“China is spying on you!” Oh Please…where did this sudden onset of privacy concerns come from?
Then this:
“TikTok is logging every keystroke!” Yea and so does Google when you type into the little search box.
Then this:
“TikTok is spying on our children!” Apparently facebook profiling your kids from age 5 to whatever links they click and “like” and chat about, is not so much the problem.
The only reason the US is getting its panties twisted is that the 3 letter agencies cannot 100% control the narrative on TikTok and censor without regard on TikTok. Apparently the narratives are so brittle nowadays that information flow needs to be controlled 100%.
Controlling opinion will backfire on the government. What did you do last time when you found a sales person was lying to you?
A data geek guy figured out a way to record search results, break them down by left, right or neutral.
He found that ADULTS search results were skewed Left, 80-90% of the time, but CHILDRENS were skewed left 100% of the time, …thats using Google.
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So is this argument that we should not do anything about tiktok because we haven’t also addressed google and every other Big Tech wrong?
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Well, where do you stand on our Government’s lack of any action regarding the CCP’s real acts of subversion, espionage, and cyber warfare against our country? Oh, and let’s not forget the Confucius centers on our university campuses.
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Same as above. If this law doesn’t address everything, then that’s a reason to do nothing?
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Yes
Is your point that because currently the privacy laws are disregarded that we should make more laws to protect privacy?
On another note that first amendment /
freedom of speech is getting eroded we must make laws defining what is good and bad speech?Facebook Is Helping Brands Target Teens Who Feel “Worthless”
https://www.forbes.com/sites/paularmstrongtech/2017/05/01/facebook-is-helping-brands-target-teens-who-feel-worthless/?sh=6c851d68344e
Zachary! (Chinese accent added for emphasis)
TikTok is the new MySpace
“Myspace is more open then facebook… The American government is saying no more MySpace.”
–Tom Anderson
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/112084309842190820
Thank you Sundance. I’ve been feeling like the Lone Ranger all day, and my spidey senses were on high alert. All I could think of was the patriot act. Finally I’m learning to trust my gut.
Ask yourself: After all of the REAL threats to our “Democracy” that China has presented up to this point, why this and why now?
Their Answer: Because of the children.
Yeah, right.
It’s because it’s a threat to their control over us! They can’t control Tik Tok like they did with Jack’s Majic Coffee Shop, Facebook et.al because it’s not a U.S. entity. If they can’t imbed within it to censor us before November, then they want it banned.
REMEMBER: IF CONGRESS IS FOR IT, IT’S NOT A GOOD THING.
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So therefore, it’s better that CCP controls it?
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CCP does not control Bitedance.
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Of course it does. The subversive garbage it encourages on tiktok here is not allowed, e.g. in China.
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EVERY Chinese company is controlled by the CCP.
Full. Stop.
Billionaires funding Transgender movement for profit
Pharma and Tech Giants All-In for Transgender
“Along with support by pharmaceutical giants such as Janssen Therapeutics, the health foundation of a Johnson and Johnson founder, Viiv, Pfizer, Abbott Laboratories, Bristol-Myers Squibb Company, and Boehringer Ingelheim Pharmaceuticals, major technology corporations including Google, Microsoft, Amazon, Intel, Dell, and IBM are also funding the transgender project.
“In February 2017, Apple, Microsoft, Google, IBM, Yelp, PayPal, and 53 other mostly tech corporations signed onto an amicus brief pushing the U.S. Supreme Court to prohibit schools from keeping private facilities for students designated according to sex.”
https://thefederalist.com/2018/02/20/rich-white-men-institutionalizing-transgender-ideology/
So all the culture-destroying elements of Tik Tok against our children will be carefully preserved once the bill effectively suppresses thinking adults on other platforms. Got it.
“We will NOT FAIL!” – President Trump, March 2024
Keep in mind at all times. Evil is desperate.
As a rule, if a bill contains the phrase “national security” anywhere in its text, it is unConstitutional.
Well Chuckie, this makes 7.
I posted the below on the last Tik-Tok ban article at CTH two days ago. They tried this a year ago and people were smart enough to get it and stop it.
I was right, again! We have seen this movie before, it is just being recycled into a different bill.
Tucker Carlson Warns About Senate Bill 686, The Restrict Act, Framed Around TikTok But Focused on Domestic Online Censorship
By Sundance
27 Mar 2023
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/03/27/tucker-carlson-warns-about-senate-bill-686-the-restrict-act-framed-around-tiktok-but-focused-on-domestic-online-censorship
The bill is too broad. It needs to be rewritten to apply specifically to TIK TOK. As now constituted, it is a fishing net for any platform (even this one).
Omnibus protection is as damaging as omnibus spending.
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It’s pretty narrow, perhaps as much as it could be while eliminating loopholes. It’s not like hundreds of pages of Patriot Act plus umpteen thousand incorporated regulations.
This is not the Restrict Act. I fear we’re getting paranoid.
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No, we’re not.
The TicTok ban is nothing but ‘Net Neutrality’ 2.0 – another censorship push – just in time for the 2024 Election.
It’s the same damn thing they did earlier – censoring all information about the 2020 Election fraud and the Jan 6 False Flag operation – as well as censoring news about the Planned-emic and the Vaccines.
It’s Typical Totalitarian Tyranny!!!
Leftists love to silence dissent and jail opponents – a la Alinsky rules!!!
Another reason voting republican is a death wish.
Trump, Musk Issue Censorship Warning
By Crossroads
14 Mar 2024
https://www.theepochtimes.com/epochtv/ccp-threatens-us-as-tiktok-ban-passes-house-trump-musk-push-back-on-tiktok-ban-5606920
TikTok may soon be banned in the United States, or see its ties to the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) dropped. A bill pushing for this just passed the U.S. House of Representatives in a heavy bipartisan 352–65 vote. President Joe Biden is saying he will sign the bill if it comes to his desk, and it’s now on the Senate on whether that happens. As all this takes place, however, the CCP is openly threatening the United States over the potential ban. It’s also getting some unlikely pushback from X CEO Elon Musk and Republican Party nominee Donald Trump, who warn about it as an expansion of government power and as a move that will lead to deeper monopolies in Big Tech.
Listening to Josh almost makes me think the CCP wrote the bill, pretending to be censored, so that the CCP can continue censoring Americans and putting their cold dead hands around our throats at election time, and all of the idiots purchased by the CCP in D.C. said, “Cool” and just signed off on it. Because they like stolen elections, otherwise they would have fixed the problems by now. Except we all know CONgress doesn’t fix things, they just make them worse.
They keep telling us what they will do, then they do it, and we still don’t believe it. WAKE UP!
LEAKED VIDEO: Google Leadership’s Dismayed Reaction to Trump Election
By Allum Bokhari
12 Sep 2018
https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2018/09/12/leaked-video-google-leaderships-dismayed-reaction-to-trump-election/
OPEN TECHNOLOGY INSTITUTE
Protecting the Vote
How Internet Platforms Are Addressing Election and Voter Suppression-Related Misinformation and Disinformation
By Spandana Singh & Margerite Blase
30 Sep 2020 (last updated)
https://www.newamerica.org/oti/reports/protecting-vote
Virtual handbook listing how each social media platform is handling this election: Amazon, Facebook/Instagram, Google, Pinterest, Reddit, Snapchat, Tiktok, Twitter, WhatsApp and YouTube.
Who is New America?
https://www.newamerica.org/our-people
https://www.newamerica.org/our-funding
TikTok:
TikTok’s H2 2020 Transparency Report
By Michael Beckerman, VP, Head of US Public Policy & Eric Han, Head of US Safety
24 Feb 2021
https://newsroom.tiktok.com/en-us/tiktoks-h-2-2020-transparency-report
Integrity for the US elections
https://www.tiktok.com/safety/resources/2020-us-elections
Look very carefully at their “Tracking our progress” section at the above link. They actually laid out a timeline of their censorship and authoritarianism aka authoritative information.
TikTok is battling false voter-fraud allegations spread on the platform by conservative accounts
by Rachel E Greenspan
4 Nov 2020
https://www.insider.com/voter-fraud-election-tiktok-conservative-hype-house-accounts-influencers-false-2020-11
TikTok takes down election misinformation aimed at younger users
By Sarah Perez
4 Nov 2020
https://techcrunch.com/2020/11/04/tiktok-takes-down-election-misinformation-aimed-at-younger-users
TikTok Adds Election Integrity Resources, New Efforts to Restrict Election Misinformation
By Andrew Hutchinson
28 Oct 2020
https://www.socialmediatoday.com/news/tiktok-adds-election-integrity-resources-new-efforts-to-restrict-election/587962
Increasing transparency into our elections integrity efforts
By Eric Han, Head of Safety, TikTok US
7 Oct 2020
https://newsroom.tiktok.com/en-us/increasing-transparency-into-our-elections-integrity-efforts
TikTok Will Tag Election-Related Videos With Link to 2020 U.S. Voters Guide
29 Sep 2020
https://variety.com/2020/digital/news/tiktok-elections-voting-guide-misinformation-trump-1234786313
Combating misinformation and election interference on TikTok
By Vanessa Pappas, General Manager, TikTok US
5 Aug 2020
https://newsroom.tiktok.com/en-us/combating-misinformation-and-election-interference-on-tiktok
How TikTok Amplifies Political Activism and Threatens Election Integrity
By Anjana Susarla
7 Jul 2020
https://www.lifehacker.com.au/2020/07/how-tiktok-amplifies-political-activism-and-threatens-election-integrity
NEVER BELIEVE the crap weasels
who are trying to tell youlying to you that they were forced to do anything. They lived for this from 2016 forward. And now they are getting all their ducks in a row before doing it all again.Amazing how fast these ‘bills’ can be brought to a vote.
So, the current ‘arbiters’ of what constitutes ‘foreign influence’ are the usurper in chief and his minion(s) AG, who just so happen to be, beyond any doubt, firmly under the influence of the commies.
What could possibly go wrong here…
Trust God. Fear not.
BREAKING! Congress giving Biden MASSIVE censorship powers banning TikTok | Redacted w Clayton Morris
By Redacted News
13 Mar 2024
https://rumble.com/v4j1tli-breaking-congress-giving-biden-massive-censorship-powers-banning-tiktok-red.html
Now I’m wondering about a comment I think I saw about two days ago that Rumble was also in the market as a TikTok buyer.
Or maybe it was a citizenfreepress headline. Kane is not aging well…
Another camel’s nose under the tent.
Bipartisan House Vote Pushes Deep State TikTok Ban—Who Really Benefits? w/ Michael Tracey | SYSTEM UPDATE #242
By Glenn Greenwald
14 Mar 2024
https://rumble.com/v4j9vyc-system-update-show-242.html
FLASHBACK: No, TikTok Is *Not* a Chinese Spy App
By Glenn Greenwald
13 Mar 2024
https://rumble.com/v4j2xz8-flashback-no-tiktok-is-not-a-chinese-spy-app.html
This is a clip from our show SYSTEM UPDATE, originally airing on November 28, 2023. You can watch the full episode for FREE here:
https://rumble.com/v3yfiop-system-update-show-188.html
I think this bill is the beginning of controlled content with media, and probably even thoughts. I am concerned that some of my favorites think it is a good thing.
Thank you, Sundance for keeping the light on the “words”, the patterns, and those silos. I am inclined to think your assessment is closer to the truth, if not entirely accurate.
Everything is especially screwed up. We must as individuals continue to seek the truth, be prepared, never take our ears and eyes off dc, pray, get ready…everyone is sensing unease, even though they may not know why. The human mind, and that six sense are in overdrive…believers are listening…level up. Pray. Blessings.
THIS^^^ why are all these people supporting this? Bannon, Laura Loomer, Raheem, Charlie Kirk? People I had previously trusted were patriots and wanted to save the country? this bill is so obviously flawed that I am so suspicious why they are not only supporting it, but PUSHING it. WHY? what am I missing???
Money . . . it’s a hit.
So, a theory I found interesting is that TC is actually in the employ of a three-letter outfit, and his efforts to avoid confrontation with Russia are less than altruistic. We talk about pragmatism and factions all the time; in this instance, the claim is that he and others (see above) are less interested in peace, per se, than a…what do you call it…Pivot to Asia?
“So, a theory I found interesting is that TC is actually in the employ of a three-letter outfit”
Tucker is the elder son of Dick Carlson who became the director of the Voice of America, president of the Corporation for Public Broadcasting and the U.S. ambassador to the Seychelles. After college, Tucker tried to join the Central Intelligence Agency, but his application was denied, after which he decided to pursue a career in journalism.
So your dad is a deep-state operative who ran two of the biggest propaganda shops in the country for the CIA and the State Department but he can’t even get you an entry level job in the CIA’s mailroom so you decide to be a journalist at a major network and end up with an hour-long show in prime time, but you’re not CIA.
Maybe he just doesn’t want his kids to grow up in a filthy garbage pit dictatorship?
Too late for that.
Operation Mockingbird
I wondered, at the time, how a 24yo man was co-anchoring a political show on CNN. Where did he earn credentials?
Hannity had been an audience participant on “Donahue”, at least.
TC came out of cheap seats.
There is no such thing as coincidence, there is only enemy action
TC is clearly very much AGAINST this bIll so there goes your “Tucker is a covert CIA Agent” theory.
https://tuckercarlson.com/uncensored-the-tiktok-ban/
Maybe it’s you who’s a covert agent infiltrating here ands trying to throw shade on a man who is quite clearly pro-Trump/ MAGA and against everything the Deep State (Blob) is doing as evidenced by every video & interview he’s done since breaking free from Fox last year.
https://tuckercarlson.com/uncensored-the-national-security-state-the-inversion-of-democracy/
Coincides with appearances of Matt Boyle on Warroom.
What does this mean to you? Can you explain?
They’re all idiots.
A few are (the Jackson-Lee creature comes to mind) but mostly they are grifters, shills and degenerate scum.
Exactly!!!
I was bannon and Raheem guy scream about how great this is and it won’t include domestic.
And they are the BIGGEST China Hawks on the block, according to them.
Perhaps they just think giving the CCP some sort of perceived loss is more important than the downstream poison of this…?
Short sighted indeed!
Take a step back and consider something Sundance has said, they just don’t see the issue as clearly as you do.
You’re not missing anything.
In fact, I believe that your observation is an astute point to consider the motives and loyalty of those you named.
Well done! ✔️ 👍
I believe we are at “Operation Exposure, Level 5.”
Look at what Col. MacGregor is posting today.
Look at who is lining up to purchase Tik Tok, exactly.
Look at the motives (kill Gaza operations video from getting out).
Now we know why the Macgregor speech came under such heavy fire here.
Saving [the truth about] Israel for last.
Tunnels
V. Putin: “The Vampire Ball is over.”
Hold on to your hats.
Dense fog incoming.
Review originating comment on page 1 by ‘Keith’ 1:16 AM. 👀 worth reviewing.
TJ makes some good points also.
Note outhouse counsel’s obfuscation of downstream effects on other social media forums and support for Tik Tok ban. 👀
I just went back and read that. It follows with a lot of things that I am starting to see more clearly…WOW. Just WOW. Thank you BK for posting
People can be so disappointing….never trust man only trust the lord…
They are either bribed (Think how they tried to bribe Kari Lake) or they are really stupid.
Or compromised by the IC.
Or threatened.
They did try to jail Steve B…
But he still has an open case that he nor anyone else is talking about.
Dwell on that for a while.
🤔
And note that Peter Navarro will be going to jail…I realized that Navarro has danced the line on this bill…he keeps saying things like China should be shut down, etc. but he hasn’t come right out and said Tik Tok bill is good…he has been quiet…guessing that is why he is going to jail in 4 days…. 🙁
They’ve been bamboozled . They should know better than to be this stupidly ignorant! Color me Frustrated too .
I am nobody, no college, but I know better so how can they not know better?!
You are at The University of Sundance so you are LIGHT years ahead of those regular college people. (I did go to college btw. It was a fun time. )
I am reprising my comment from two days ago on the Presidential Thread.
Jesse Kelly said in a tweet, “It’s not possible for a government this bad to pass a good bill.”
If it passes, it’s bad.”
Accurate…
Thank you for the visual aid.
Just as we had no idea what was downstream from the Patriot Act, the verbiage is so obtuse (chosen purposefully) that the layers will be revealed over the next years..
And yet with the Patriot Act, it was so hastily introduced and passed, I’m surprised no one asked how it was such an act could be so quickly written….and as usual, neither read or understood at the time.
We know now, don’t we…
Written, in a drawer, just waiting for the terrorist event…convenient, no?
Absolutely…their goal is to limit free speech, period.
I am confused at to why the US can’t just super-tariff everything “China” and rescind the favored nation status. Would that not fix this? China would do it to us in a chinese heartbeat. Oops, that’s righth, Bejing Biden and CONgress are all controlled by china.
Ok, if China is the enemy as these slimy crap weasels are telling us, why is almost EVERYTHING IN ALL OUR STORES MADE IN FKN CHINA!!!! Is there not one congress critter who can make this argument on the floor???
So true