Regarding the handling of ‘classified documents’ Special Counsel Robert Hur testified today that President Trump and Vice-President Biden had identical outcomes. However, whereas Donald Trump is cognitively normal, Joe Biden is suffering from a diminished mental state, frequent confusion and absent remembering. Therefore, the elements needed for “intent” in the criminal statute did not apply to Biden.
Donald Trump is fine; Joe Biden has lost his marbles. According to prosecutor Robert Hur, that explains why there are two tiers of justice amid an identical set of infractions. As a consequence, the American people are expected to be okay with the reasoning for a DOJ double-standard. WATCH:
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The full hearing video is below, but the essential element is just repeated. (1) Biden lied or could not remember on purpose; and (2) there are two tiers of justice, and the DOJ is prepared to defend their non-prosecution decision based entirely on cognitive “intent.”
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Love to all,
~ Sundance
Except that the premise of an identical set of infractions is wrong. President Trump was entitled to the documents he had under the Presidential Records Act, but Biden had no such entitlement.
BUTT (head) Matt Gaetz says otherwise,
When did Gaetz say this? Not doubting you but just wondering because I haven’t heard about it…
Its right there, several times in the first clip in the Sundance article.
Oops, did you go right to the comments, without viewing the videos?
Its only 5 min long, its all Gaetz questioning Hur, he says it more than once and reiterates it at the end.
Check it out,…Butthead Gaetz.
He said it while questioning Hur. He said they should be treated the same. Well, no . Biden broke the law and Trump did not. Being vice president is not equal to being president. I was surprised when Gaetz made this statement. Its what the rinos always say. Actually its what conservatives always say. Conservatives don’t seem to be able to say the left is doing something wrong without also saying they do the same thing. Listen to the conservative talk show hosts. The all do it. I have never heard a leftist talk like this. Have you?
Whoa!
I’ll have to watch the video for that.
What’s going on with him?
So, not one Republican there asked Hur to explain why as President of the United States…
A: Donald Trump was not entitled to take whatever documents (They are copies!) he wanted and by doing so declassified them?
B: Was not covered by the Presidential Records Act?
C: By what authority does the Administrator of the National Archives overrule the decision of the President?
I’m stunned that Hur wasn’t asked these questions!
He would have obfuscated by stating that he was there to discuss the report, not to discuss Trump’s indictments.
I understand he would have tried ….but in the investigation and during his testimony he opined that President Trump committed the same crime as Biden therefore Hur would have needed to determine that President Trump wasn’t entitled to remove copies of documents. That President Trump lacked the authority to declassify documents. That the head of the National Archives had the authority to overrule the President and that the PRA did not cover President Trump. No?
They’re Uniparty, Joe.
They’re all in it together.
Nothing more than smoke and mirrors show.
He would have been correct.
Like I posted in the earlier article on the Tik Tok legislation , these televised hearings are just a scripted show for the gaslighting of the public who buys into the opposing “Party” 🐴💩 banter. It’s all a political. scam.
I am not falling for any of this crap anymore. Remember the “Trey “Gowdy Duty” Rooster Head “hearings” or the Darrell Issa “hearings” etc. etc.
Does anything ever come from these dog and pony shows? Is anyone ever held responsible for anything? …..Or is it just a good cop bad cop act soon to be forgotten while the corruption in the District of Criminals is covered up again and again?
So California Joe, you shouldn’t be stunned. What good would it really do if they had asked the questions you suggested?… NONE. It’s just more gaslighting and a waste of time. Here’s my shocked face 🙄.
Oh!!! You are so right. Its the old “both sides do it”. Another thing that makes me want to spit.
Would ask Ron B to clarify but my take was the Presidential Records Act refers to a POTUS. It is not applicable to a Vice President, the position Biden held at that time.
Isn’t that what I said?
Yes, and I was stating my interpretation of what you said since you deserved an opportunity to speak for yourself.
I believe dutchman was referring to Gaetz not pointing that out specifically.
I still don’t think Hur could have wiggled out of answering my questions since he gave his official opinion that President Trump had committed the same crimes as Biden! He would look like an idiot if he said it wasn’t within his purview…Well then how could you say President Trump was a criminal without doing the required research, Mr Hur?
Obviously, the best you can do is make him look like he’s incompetent or corrupt!
I heard that too and I was shocked by it. Sounded like a rino.
G MO nee, that man is ugly.
Exactly! 💯
It was always going to be;
The Big Guy might be a pedophile and a traitor
Hunter might be a pedophile and a drug addict and a traitor
But Joe is insane dementia and Hunter is a drug addict so diminished responsibility
Chillax
It’s only world peace and the future of humanity bigot
Intent should be based on the time Biden committed the crime, and not on today’s state of Biden’s mind
That really is the difference, one, President Trump, held the lawful right and authority for those documents, the other person broke the law.
“All good is happening according to His plan” – that was wonderful to read. Thank you for all your doing Sundance.
Bessie, thank you for this about Sundance. “All good is happening according to His plan” – that was wonderful to read. Thank you for all your doing Sundance.”
Not only that: “intent” would be framed at the commission of the crime. So his mental capacity at the time of violation would be the standard. Since I would believe that mishandling classified documents, in most cases of code does not need intent to violate the law, it seems to me that, crime committed, the law was broken, and the prosecutor is just a shill for the elite side of the global wing who would like to see someone else running as the Democrat nominee for president. Just another dog n pony show before the next stolen election.
He definitely said Biden is a criminal.
Exactly.
I don’t recall anything said in security clearance briefings like “unless you’re not in your right mind, then it’s okay.” I guess I also missed where it said, “unless you’re Hillary Clinton, then it’s okay.”
Thank you!
The Presidential Records Act covers President Trump and not Senator Bidet or a VP Bidet.
Trump 2024
Exactly
The difference is Rotting Oatmeal Brains had no authority to have the documents, where as POTUS did.
Please! The American public is dumb but generally not stupid. Watching this tool trying to keep a straight face while attempting to rationalize total bs is hilarious.
Glad to hear Sundance is getting to people that matter.
Agree and FJB!
Yup!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Another difference not mentioned is Biden probably took the documents to cover up his and Hussein’s crimes; President Trump likely took documents to expose Biden and Hussein’s crimes. It would not even surprise me if the documents taken by both were nearly identical.
Intent: The state of mind necessary for an act to constitute a crime.
When biden started keeping the classified documents that he clearly had NO legal position to do so, he was NOT of diminished mental acuity. A liar, yes. Mentally disabled, no. He was a senator, a vice president, and private citizen. His mental status has become an issue over the last 3+ years. SO he obviously was mentally acute back in those days when he took the materials. His crime of theft and sharing classified documents took place prior to his diminished mental state. AND BIDEN WAS NOT GIVEN CLEARANCE TO COVER THOSE DOCUMENTS AT THAT TIME…there is nothing common between the biden crap and Trump’s presidential privileges concerning documents classified or otherwise.
Very plainly a neat strategy to take both Biden and Yrump out…
SD, keep on doin’ watchur doin’ bro! All of us need to find our platoon in the MAGA army to save ‘Merica!
Finish those spear tips with fine leather.
The Government is trying so hard to do every single thing they can to get the people red hot angry to the point of absurdity.
You’ve got that right. The problem is the people already have their line drawn, and the government KNOWS this, it’s why they are letting Obama’s JV Team come across the border, but even Obama’s JV Team can’t win against red hot pissed off American Patriots that are locked and loaded to the T!
My understanding is that sitting Presidents cannot be indicted by the traditional Judicial system – Trump wasn’t, Dementia Joe won’t be. That’s why the Constitution was very specific about the impeachment process. It is the peoples direct representatives investigating, prosecuting, indicting, and facing a trial by their “peers”. If that is the case and Hur knows it, then why issue the report that he did and make excuses for why he did it? One possibility is that it provides an official government statement of the apparent fact that Dementia Joe is suffering from just that. Or is he? A favorite tactic of Mob Bosses facing trials is to fake dementia….
After this hearing today, it was clear to most legal analysts that the evidence did not support Hur’s refusal to recommend an indictment of Biden, being President today notwithstanding.
The facts that came out today will not be lost on the Supreme Court Justices. If the Florida case ever gets to the SCOTUS, Jack Smith will feel their wrath for sure.
You have a lot more faith im the SCOTUS than I do.
What a load of BS u
All good is happening according to His plan, not mine.
Amen!
The doj should be tried on “intent.”
what a load of crap.
Keep doing you!! Much love! ❤️
The opening statement made by Robert Hur is especially offensive and insulting.
Tugging heartstrings
that his Norther Korean born mother fled, in the arms of her mother, to South Korea
where she later met and married his father, who then made their way to the United States for a better life
… and that he, Robert, was the first born American in his family.
Oh, the food!!!
~What gratitude and seeming patriotism he expressed.
Hur then lists his resume of jobs … his positions in law … the department of justice… government,
and then commended himself ~~emphatically
as being loyal, un-bias, non-political…… honorable.
~SPIT !
So sick of foreigners running our government and none of them ar loyal to us
https://thefederalist.com/2024/03/12/hur-biden-ghostwriter-attempted-to-destroy-evidence-following-special-counsel-appointment/
FTA –
“Based on our direct interactions with and observations of him, he is someone for whom many jurors will want to identify reasonable doubt,” Hur added. “It would be difficult to convince a jury that they should convict him by — by then a former president well into his eighties — of a serious felony that requires a mental state of willfulness.”
Why so shy about department capabilities Hur? You guys managed to convict 69-year-old grandmother with cancer to 2 years in prison for innocently walking into the capital!!!
Maybe the Korean just isn’t up to the job.
Thank you, Sundance for using the influence you have to help us save our great country!
Why aren’t the Republicans hauling Biden’s personal physician to the hearing and ask him on camera to either concur or reject the DOJ’s assertion of not competent to stand trial?
What part of UNIPARTY do you not understand?
The Republicans you are asking about are, like a wrestling tag team; they are on THE SAME TEAM.
You, me, Sundance etc. we are on THE OTHER TEAM.
UNI=ONE
UNIparty=ONE PARTY, with two faces or wings, or as they say in England, “2 cheeks of the same arse!”
The Republicans installed Joe into office, they have no intention of removing him.
Results? Results? Never under any circumstances do they want results.
I know each day, when No Article is posted, Sundance is EDUCATING some of our Dumb Elected Representatives.
Thank you for your tireless efforts to bring us the Truth, Sundance. Praying for a great yield from the seeds you are planting “consultatively” (aka by Divine Appointments) (Hugs)
When will the link between Hur and Bill Barr surface….this testimony stinks
Hur called Rod Rosenstien and asked if he still had that Jim Comey shtick so he could just change the names. No reasonable prosecutor…….
“Uncle Joe”
was Obamboozler paving the path for
~ Poor mindless joe can’t remember
“I am happily and purposefully breaking down the silo walls. All good is happening according to His plan, not mine.”
This is great news SD – Thanks for the update!!
So Hur is telling me that Joe Biden has been an incompetent oatmeal brain for almost a decade and should never have become President in the first place!
So why is he “President?” Why do Democrats tell him stupid things like “That was a great State of the Union Speech!”
There sure is a lot of oatmeal brain in the Democrat Party.
#TeamTreehouse
Hey man, how have you been?
Haven’t heard from you in a while.
Got a new one coming out?
“Back in the US, back in the US, back in the USSR, you don’t know how lucky you are boy—–.” Hat tip to the Beatles!
Prayers for Sundance’s safety and effectiveness in all his endeavors. Amen
You owe us no explanations, we aren’t here to gain understanding
Biden may have less mental acuity now, or acting. When he committed his crimes, he was fully cognizant. He is on audio and video admitting them, bragging actually. In the real world, he was intentional, openly operating with impunity.
Presently it does not make him less accountable with this current stumble bum persona. He won’t take a mental acuity test!! No telling if that test will be modified! Prosecute him, it is on tape.
On point. Why isn’t anyone questioning him asking Hur on what medical or psychological grounds he has to decide fit or unfit
So he was already gaga when he was Vice President or Senator? Or is he saying that Biden is gaga now and unfit to stand trial (which a judge should have to decide, not a prosecutor)? The truth is, the DOJ needs this case to go away. If it doesn’t, eventually Biden will have to assert Presidential immunity, which, in fact, he has–unless he is at some point impeached and convicted. Oh, but wait–
This is from a 🔗 pathetic site defending Biden, but it shows some of the documents he had.
Good catch.
Were they trying to argue that it was less criminal? If they were, they are lost. It was a felony.
Final paragraph from Sundance was encouraging. Keep that up. I know for certain the audience is expanding.
So, he testifies that Biden has severe dementia, but that is acceptable because he is POTUS.
Intent not required to charge!
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Well I’m confused. The applicable intent,such as it would be, would be at the time the crime was committed, not years later.
And Trump did not mishandle any classified documents that he was not allowed to possess. So not the same.
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“Can’t do that, Joe!”
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/112085998901174907
That stinking Biden is not going to out live all his crimes. He is just going to die and all is forgotten.
When he committed most of his crimes he did not have dementia.
the fact that he had the docs proves intent… hur is a liar
I’m sure Judge Cannon is taking all this in , in addition to the briefs submitted on President Trump’s behalf by Meese and others, and I wouldn’t be surprised now if she agrees with Trump’s motion to dismiss, which hearing is scheduled for Thursday, I believe.
You’re an awesome person Sundance. As for the above chip, Gaetz did not do a fair job for President Trump.
Love the postscript Sundance!
KOKO!
https://rumble.com/v4i2zjn-late-night-host-johnny-carson-blew-the-whistle-on-biden-36-years-ago.html
The story line and pretzel logic is so easily refuted.
Biden took the documents long before he occupied the WH. At the time he stole them and carelessly put them in his unsecured garage and other areas, he was as cogent as he has ever been.
Regardless of his likely mental incapacity now, then he was fully aware and as rational as any Dim ever is.
Every Democrat there swore Biden was razor-sharp and on point at the State of the Union.
Therefore, fit to stand trial.
BTW, Biden was selling secrets to the Chinese at the Penn Biden Center. Blinken was Head Cashier.
“Elements” are identical? ELEMENTS? What about President Trump actual having the rights to the documents while the decrepit, demonic creep did not? These people are so stunningly dishonest they make me want to spit.
Too senile to prosecute means too senile to lead. C’mon repubs, get your act together and ask the right f’n questions!
Thank you!
comedy central … ( how sad that this nation has fallen this far …) mankind has lost it’s way … it has earned no reason to govern itself any longer … thank ‘GOD ALMIGHTY’ our tenure is just about over …
1. Intent applies at the time of the act, not now.
2. Hur is not competent to make medical determinations
3. Hur did not consult competent medical personnel to make any determinations
4. Biden’s physicians say he is competent
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Hur’s excuses for Biden’s crimes make Hur an accessory.
Love you Sundance! I’m not mad that you don’t post all the time, because I recognize you’re always working. Also I hope the Trump campaign is clipping some of this footage and using it in ads.