Regarding the handling of ‘classified documents’ Special Counsel Robert Hur testified today that President Trump and Vice-President Biden had identical outcomes. However, whereas Donald Trump is cognitively normal, Joe Biden is suffering from a diminished mental state, frequent confusion and absent remembering. Therefore, the elements needed for “intent” in the criminal statute did not apply to Biden.
Donald Trump is fine; Joe Biden has lost his marbles. According to prosecutor Robert Hur, that explains why there are two tiers of justice amid an identical set of infractions. As a consequence, the American people are expected to be okay with the reasoning for a DOJ double-standard. WATCH:
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The full hearing video is below, but the essential element is just repeated. (1) Biden lied or could not remember on purpose; and (2) there are two tiers of justice, and the DOJ is prepared to defend their non-prosecution decision based entirely on cognitive “intent.”
FULL HEARING:
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ps. People might be critical of CTH not necessarily posting some of the relevant material of any specific news day. The criticism is fair and well received. Thank you. However, please understand that while I never talk about what is happening behind the scenes, more than 50% of my daily awake time is now spent in consultant conversation with those in positions of influence who need their spear tips sharpened. I am happily and purposefully breaking down the silo walls. All good is happening according to His plan, not mine.
Love to all,
~ Sundance
Funny, yet not one politician (all corrupt btw) asked if Hur was either a phycologist or a psychiatrist. Maybe it’s just me?
Donald Trump was President.
Biden was a Vice President when he took those documents.
Nobody asked anything re this fact during or after.
That is a very important distinction.
BUTT Matt Gaetz,..
It’s not over, Joe!
Watch for President Trump to highlight this in every Rally from now until November!
Well done, Sundance. Keep up the good work behind the scenes. You go for it.
“This is a big f”””ing DEAL!”
Yes it is , Joe.
No the string along game (year 100) and the gross negligence by those presently task with holding this accountable is far bigger than the idiot running around stuffing files in the boot of his vintage car.
Where the f is fawn Hall when you need her?
They are not “identical” issues as Biden was a Senator/VP when he unlawfully took the papers(a crime) while Trump was President, protected by the Presidential Records Act, and acting within the law.
Not too mention, Trump stored them responsibly and securely.
Trump stored them responsibly and securely. Biden in effect SOLD his by sharing their contents with his ghostwriter who was preparing a book that would pay Biden $8 MILLION.
@LeftTheGOP, a thousand thumbs up, absolutely correct, these two cases are NOT identical. A President has immunity and can declassify any document, no one else has that authority or right. Thank you.
Exactly. Butt Matt Gaetz doesn’t see it that way.
Can I get an AMEN?!!!
This. Right here!
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Gotta be the new math, aka, the dumbing down of America, because this equation:
7 places with insecure keeping = 1 place with secure keeping
has no place in any free-thinking, logically centered individual.
God, Please Help us that know the Truth, Restore Justice.
Trump’s team needs to put this in a TV Ad!
Farcical.
What about the boxes of documents found in Chinatown?
Haven’t heard a peep.
“Intent” my a**!
Officer I did not intend to break the speed limit.
Shades of shilery!
They did a dry run with Mueller
Hilary didn’t intend to commit all those crimes either, according to Comey.
I think most of us know that when the posting throughout the day is slow, we KNOW you are working behind the scenes on very important tasks. I appreciate others posting topics that give an opportunity for further discussion. We all play a role in keeping the treehouse strong and flourishing!
Succesfully break down those silos, and Lord only knows what happens!
IIRC, the most powerful explosions, are grain SILOS,..
Just in time for Election 2024 as it was for Election 2016
Comey-Clinton 2.0
Don’t be fooled by Robert “Ya doesn’t have to call me Ben” Hur.
This is an IC person whitewashing obvious, irrefutable criminality doing the “no reasonable prosecutor” routine to let Biden skate, just as Clinton skated before Election 2016.
And they continue to do it because they know they can. However, rather than continue to harp the “but what can I do? mantra I strongly suggest again that you take the time to go to Rumble and download the two hour FREE movie called “Let My Children Go.” Very powerful while clearly explaining and demonstrating how corrupt our election process has become.
If I were more computer literate I would leave you the link but I don’t know how to do that, but I have given you the necessary info so again I implore you – go do it – that’s what you can do.
So intent is now determined by mental acuity.
Does it then matter how long ago ones mental acuity faded?
Never mind we are to believe as told how Joe Biden is mentally sharp these days.
What a crock all of it. All of it.
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This Hur actually claimed, under questioning about SLO-Joe’s ‘willingly’ status, that, yes, Joe willingly told his ghostwriter that he had classified documents in his basement during the time he was a private citizen, but that a reasonable prosecutor could deign that if he forgot about them a couple of days later, that then Joe could conceivably be found not to be willingly concealing that fact, because he forgot it . . .
Except Biden should never have had possession.
Who then allowed it?
Point is, this is all BS to cover for the illegal search of Mar a Lago.
Hur is just the next liar up to sell the long con.
“So intent is now determined by mental acuity.”
It’s worse.
Prior Criminal intent in the commission of a crime, can apparently be absolved by a having a foggy recollection of your actions.
Also referred to as, doing a Mueller.
Didn’t “intent” work for Hillary?
Yes. Only works for democrats.
Yes “intent” works for Dems — but also for the RINOs in ’22 in Maricopa County Arizona. In one of Kari Lake’s cases brought against Maricopa County’s egregious handling of the ’22 election, a judge found that the County officials could not be held responsible for multiple voting machines breaking down on election day in specific Conservative precincts because … wait for it … “intent” to deprive Conservative Republican voters the right to vote that day couldn’t be proven.
Yes, especially considering the statute that she was alleged to have violated did not include the element of intent. It was a strict liability crime. Comey added intent to his evaluation to justify not charging her.
Both Hillary and Biden intend to be Democrats. Trump intends to be a MAGA Republican. That is the only calculation of intent that matters to the DoJ.
So is Hur trying to claim that Biden was mentally incompetent at the time he took the documents? Because that is when the crime was committed, not now when it has been exposed and they are frantically trying to cover their asses and protect the vegetable.
He was always an idiot defense-you can’t dispute that
I think Hur was saying that Biden was not competent to stand trial at the present time. Competency to stand trial is determined at the time of the decision to charge, not at the time of the offense.
The man is running for re-election. I think that proves that Biden thinks he’s competent.
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But he’s competent to remain president… /
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That’s saying a man who committed felonies in the past by reason of his current advanced age or dementia is exonerated of those felonies.
Proof found of those crimes deserve justice. Period.
Did he have his marbles when he was a senator and VP?
Seems like an excuse that wouldn’t meet any decent standards of actual justice.
Did he,….your kidding, right?
Joe NEVER had all his marbles, not even back when he was a lifeguard.
Sooo, he didn’t have his marbles when he was driving a tractor trailer.
That was his tractor trailer marble cake
LOL – yeah….kidding.
FJB has always been a big mouth small brained lying piece of $hit.
Dog faced pony soldier
Joe, “NEVER had all his marbles”?
More like he had his marbles when it suits him. The ever-lying Joe, swirling indistinct boundaries baking his marble cakes over the years .. even now
God’s continued Blessings and guidance, Sundance.
-Thank you 💖
✝️❤️🇺🇸
Mental acuity makes determining intents “difficult” for mishandling classified information when Biden possessed no authority for the same prior to 2020. And the applicable laws cover espionage, negligence and other, not intents.
Yet there’s no invocation of the 25th Amendment, because “reasons”. 🤔
Infuriating.
You go, boy on whatever it is you are doing.
But I have rhetorical question regarding Biden’s cognitive degeneracy: if Biden has been officially and legally deemed to not be competent, then how can TPTB NOT invoke the 25th Amendment?
And why is no one bringing that up?????
Kamala Harris……
Why PDJT MUST have KL as his VP, for $500, alex
Yep, if someday there is going to be the first “female president” you certainly wouldn’t want the history books to record it was her.
Or, why doesn’t TPTB just fade the faded one into retirement?
Almost as though Joe from Scranton has been Pegged as the IC fall guy.
They will retire FJB, just not yet.
Scenerio:
In mid to late October, early voting has Trump’s numbers too high to beat. FJB has a major dementia episode on live TV and the next day forfeits the election to Trump. Trump wins the election by default. Congress then uses the forfeited election as an excuse to not seat President Trump. Trump then becomes a placeholder president until the 2028 elections. He’s prevented from exercising all presidential powers and the leaders of the house and senate jointly run the nation, the Supreme Court backs up the IC’s plan to neuter Trump with a 5-4 decision.
They could but they won’t. They are loving the situation they have. They call the shots for destroying the country and Old Joe gets the blame and scorn. It’s perfect for them.
Great point!
Very logical and fits Occams razor.
Yes, whether its the CCP or other foreign enemies that have bribed him (and that want to damage/destroy the U.S.) OR those enemies of the U.S. that are within the gates, they have already milked him for all he’s worth,…EXCEPT to then have it clear to all, that he is corrupt, perverted and decrepit, and so enjoy a propoganda bonanza.
As cover for their misdeeds.
Look here, squirrels.
Agreed. Their only drawback is that he’s still tied to Zero.
True, but that’s still another layer of cover from both of them for their IC handlers.
What a bunch of bs. Donald Trump was a PRESIDENT. He had the right to have those documents — even if those conspiring against him let records that would fry their asses for insurrection get mixed in because they were too damned arrogant and stupid to cover their tracks.
Senile or not– Potato brain had documents in his possession prior to his presidency. Stop covering for the puppet. He is is either competent or not. If not, he needs to be removed.
CTH readers know what you write.
The spin coming off this propaganda congressional hearing today is for the uninformed. The GMA crowd won’t blink let alone think.
BUTT(HEAD) Matt Gaetz says,…
The thing is, he (Hur) has GOT us, in a classic perverted “catch-22” in that WHO here is going to argue that Joe ISN’T cognitively impaired?
So, coming from HIS SILO, his “ass is covered” as he does basically the same thing Comey did, with his “no reasonable prosecutor” presser.
Not “exhonerating” but declining to prosecute the Democrat nominee.
That he is also saying the sitting POTUS and Dem nominee is mentally, cognitively deficient, and should obviously not be in office or running for reelection,..is “not Hur’s problem, as its outside his Silo.
Its up to the Party, and the Campaign, with the help of the MSM to gloss over that small detail.
Spot on.
And the average voters won’t even consider how they are played.
Biden was VP at the time he took / mishandled classified docs…the cases are in no way identical. Ahhhhhhhh
so flippin frustrating
There is a double standard of justice…if that’s the euphemism we are supposed to use for the Berian system we live under.
And no…
I am not “okay” about that.
The Trump vs Biden classified document cases are not the same. Trump was President, Biden was Vice President – there are different rules. Trump is allowed and works with the National Archives, Biden was not allowed to keep a single classified document, and to make matters worse his handling of them was more than just careless. Another note, when Biden took the classified documents illegally his mental state was just fine. Biden needs to be charged and prosecuted as soon as he leaves office. He can serve his time locked in his basement.
Butt Mat Gaetz,…?
Thank you for all you do Sundance. Sure hope there are many bright rays of “sunlight” beaming down on DC in the coming days, especially Thursday!
How can the elements be identical when Biden took his as a senator and VP, neither of which carries classification authority whereas President could declassify ANYTHING.
Butt,…?
Such trivial details are of no concern.
Sundance. Got your six. Drive on!
Identical? Except the right of the president vs vp.
Butt,…
You don’t ever need to explain yourself. If someone thinks there is important news, they can post a message with their analysis. Us treepers are always interested in hearing from each other. There is nothing stopping anyone from picking up the slack that they think is getting overlooked. Thanks for all you do Sundance!
Eff them.
Treepers ?
Couple guys were complaining earlier that Sundance hadn’t written on this story.
the trolls
” Joe Biden has lost his marbles. “
He has only lost 2 marbles, That’s not very many.
Of course, he only had 3 to begin with.
He may not have lost all of his marbles, but there’s definitely a hole in the bag.
Joey wants to know why that nice young waiter fella from the Chinese restaurant keeps saying that Joey has “memory problems”…
Wiped with the “intent” cloth just like when Hillary had no “intent” with her private server.
Did anyone call him out on repeating Comey’s lies about Hillary?
The law does not require intent to prove guilt.
Did anyone call him out on his lie that a former President and a V.P. or Senator are just the same concerning possessing documents?
Well, NOT BUTTHEAD Matt Gaetz,…no.
Not a lawyer,never played one on TV,but intent applies to the commission of the crime at the time it occurred – not after the crook had become senile –
More b.s.!
No, NOT with the espionage act, which specifically enumeratrs that intent is NOT a necesary element of the crime.
And, at their initial security briefing, the details OF the espionage act, including that intent is not a necesary aspect of the crime, is made clear to them, and they sign a document so affirming.
It DOESN’T MATTER whether you accidentally left the classified documents on the bus, in the taxi, on the park bench OR did it intentionally; ALL thats neccesary to convict, is to prove that you DID, thereby obviously “mishandling” classified docs and, to preemptively prevent your lawyer from trying the “gee, I didn’t mean to, it were a accident!” defence, they submit the document you signed, affirming you UNDERSTAND intent is irrelevant.
And Jordan, Gaetz and everyone in that hearing KNOWS that is the case.
If they put it on C-Span, so we all can WATCH it, its NOT REAL, its THEATER.
Good point.
Gross negligence is not a defense. And vicarious liability to boot.
They did that because double agents, engaged in espionage, would leave classified docs on abus, in a taxi or whetever, and if they and their Russian agent they were passing them to got caught, they would claim “it were a accident!”
Then ” intent ” is not an element of the criminal act, and Hur should not have applied it in any defense explanation of Biden actions as I read it. But again, we all recognize the B.S. involved.
Just read a later post ( pg 4 ) that recommended they should put the question of competence to Congress, is he incompetent to be tried – yes or no. If no, try him, if yes – he is incompetent to be president! There again, not gonna happen, but enjoy reading these comments!
🙏 Keep doing what you do best! Continued prayers for you and also that hearts and minds will be open to see through the walls of the silos.
“It may be that our task is impossible. Yet, if we do not try then how will we know it can’t be done? And if we do not try, it most certainly won’t be done. The Founders’ Republic, and the larger war for western civilization, will be lost.”
Note the purple tie….
Actually , they are not an identical set of infractions – Joe never had a right to take any of these documents under the law , especially spreading them all over the place for years – PDJT as President argues that he has that right under the law to do so – an issue that needs to be decided… ( and he had them in one place and only for a relatively short time)
But otherwise accurate – I wonder if Hur resigned because he knew his DOJ career was over – not a “team player” like Weiss or the other flunkies and phonies…
A lot was exposed today and Joe was NOT exonerated , maybe more like exposed and excoriated …that basement better have lower level …
Butt,…
Matt Gaetz, the stage director that brought us the 9 days to select Speaker McCarthy, and then created Speaker McJohnson, who said the J6ers get no sympathy from him, states right there in the hearing, that he believes Biden and PDJT should be “treated the same” regarding their handling of classified docs.
Donald Trump took documents after his Presidency ended, which is covered by the Presidential Records Act…Joe Biden took documents after he was a Senator and a VP, NEITHER of which are covered, and are in fact, FELONIES!
How da*n many times do we have to keep saying this?!!
You can say it until you’re blue in the face – they ain’t listening.
Butt,…
AND I think it SHOULD matter that Joe was in his so called “right” mind back when he took those docs.
Such facts matter not in the game of Just-Us.
Your last paragraph made my day. I hope one of those consults is possibly with PT or one of his very top advisors.
As I have said, there is NO ONE who knows the players and the details going back to at least 2008 as you and the amount of truth and knowledge you could share with PT and so many others such as Tucker, Bongino, Bannon, Rogan etc is at Einstein level.
Thanks for all you do and have given!
Bull butter.
Amazing, tutti frutti ice cream has cured Biden’s mental acuity in time for the SOTU and Election 2024.
Biden the picture of mental sharpness and sexual prowess.
🚨Fire Marshal Bill 🚨
Biden had no intent … … … of getting caught.
Watched the whole thing. All BS
“All good is happening according to His plan, not mine.” – Amen!
Can’t wait to hear, and more importantly, see the results from your consultation time with equipping ‘those in positions of influence’. I hope that VSGPDJT’s reelection campaign makes full use of your research too. Thank you Sundance. God bless.
Thank you for that last paragraph. May the Lord bless you for all you do.
No criticism of CTH at all. We are all capable of checking other site for other news.
Your Behing the Scenes Work is much more important. Break down those silo walls!
May God Guide & Strengthen You!
Love to You, Sundance, and all at CTH.
The nice part about being on the right side of prosecution is that it doesn’t extend 50 years in the past. Biden knowingly did the wrong thing in the past but it gets excused because he’s demented today. I think if a regular person is charged with an old crime, even though demented today, they will hold a trial and maybe, if lucky, get probation.
And neither was Biden as VP!
I noticed Chris Cuomo used the word “silos” twice in his interview with Tucker.
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We have the right to run this the hell out of this land;
But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing
invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce
them under absolute Despotism, it is their right,
it is their duty, to throw off such Government,
and to provide new Guards for their future security. ~ TJ
Prayers are going out for your safety and success, Sundance! You are truly doing God’s work and we are infinitely grateful for all you are doing! Safe travels, and we look forward to each time we hear from you!
“The actual people,” both in the United States and in the World, are simply not going to accept this. 🤷♂️
“The President” is the only “Article 2 exception” to the laws concerning the disposition and handling of “classified materials.” Neither a “Vice-President” nor a “Senator” qualifies.
Any questions? Ask any Federal Prisoner who is right now serving time . . .
Sorry, but being no more than an old baked potato NOW, doesn’t absolve him from taken the docs when he was, for lack of a more appropriate term, “normal”. THATS what cranks me off. Time for the 25th amendment and put him in a home, where he can’t hurt the country any more.
The Chinese likely want to milk their puppet up to the last minute they can…..and maybe they’re not so sure what to do about Kamala. Hence…let him stay in office – let him run again. The Chinese want their moneys worth,
I don’t think he was in a diminished mental state when the docs from his time as Senator or VP were taken.
He’s been in a diminished mental state all of his miserable life.
He has also been a liar, plagiarist, traitor, schemer, racist, compromised, imbecilic kook his entire career – no wonder McConnell considers him a “close personal friend.” Birds of a feather flock together.