President Trump is scheduled to meet with Republican House Conference leadership on Tuesday next week. According to Congressman Troy Nehls, President Trump is going to recommend and endorse Ohio Representative Jim Jordan for the position:
Obviously, I do not personally like this idea, as I think it’s just another bondo and spray paint application upon the Republican wing of the UniParty. However, oddly enough when John Boehner stepped down, I wanted to see Jim Jordan instead of Paul Ryan. Goes to show how rapidly the machinery in DC can compromise someone.
Ukraine will get funded. Jordan will be the arbiter of which DC inhabitants will be protected from subpoenas; the House will change the rules to protect him. The door nameplates change, and everyone goes back to business as usual. Meh, I wonder who will be placed as chair of the Judiciary Committee and Weaponization Committee?
So basically this firing of Kevin McCarthy was all for show and giggles. SMH. We are the suckers for falling for this lame show.
I would have been happier if the very stable genius would have just kept his yapper shut.
And you’re mad at Trump for voting these arseholes in?
Look in the mirror.
Agreed! Because it makes him look like he has no idea what or who a RINO is and how those Uniparty members will stick him in the back for the umpteenth time.
Ffs Trump.
You are correct, sir. Been suckers for decades now. As I have said before, and got rag tagged for it, it’s all for show. But it sounds like you are catching on. Congrats.
Poor baby!
Previously telling others to “come off their high and imaginary high horse” for their views but whining about getting ‘rag tagged’ for your own views?
Projection much?
Lovely BK. It goes with the territory here. I learned it from some of the very best, yourself included. As stated, I now wear your “defeatist label” as a badge of honor having read enough from you and the merry cast of treetins (dutchess and others) who gang up on opposing viewpoints.
Very reminiscent of fruitless conversations with Liberals because they are never wrong either.
Lets look at your predictable hypocrisy, preacher.
“casting aspersions on Trump’s knowledge of what Congress does and doesn’t do and what he knows about its processes and thinking that ‘someone’ needs to tell (educate) him tells me all I need to know”
And in writing that you tell us all we need to know, about you. Could you possibly have PDJT confused with Jesus?
“Oh, you can criticize Trump here, but you could and probably will be also be challenged about it.”
And I will continue to criticize PDJT here and elsewhere when he does things that do not help him or us, his base.
What do I mean by that? Per comment below.
If there isn’t anyone worth endorsing, don’t endorse anyone and tell your base “there is nobody worth endorsing.” If there is someone worth endorsing but they are only going to get two votes, endorse them, so your base knows. Have your principles and stick to them.
Compromised principles are lost principles.
He isn’t Jesus. You remember Jesus, right? If you criticize Jesus I will challenge you. But PDJT is human. I don’t not idolize humans. You really should not do so either. Unless you have some evidence of of divine intervention that the rest of us do not have.
And, just as it has gone today, all over this thread, you groupthinkers will apply the labels to the challengers, ridicule what they say and then, in your greatest moment of hypocrisy and imbecilic self grandeur, write to us “you bitch but you have no answers.”
After you just ignored and ridiculed answers. That’s rich. And that’s THICK.
“Starting a third party at this moment is a fool’s errand”
At this moment? How far back in the archives do you want me to go in proving that the moment has never been right for you or your groupthink henchmen? And yet, the GOP has turned out so well for you all that SD has to constantly write about and remind you how corrupt it is. Still don’t get the two wings on the same bird do you? Nope. Rich. THICK.
It was extremely enjoyable, jocular, how so many of you were anti-RINO during the primaries. But when the general election came along it was all, “VOTE for the RINOs. If you don’t you are voting for a Dem.” Should I go back to the archives to remind you all of your brilliance there too? How’s it going for you now? You are still attacking the “told you so crowd”.
Some of you could learn a lot more if you stopped posting and started reading AND comprehending. SD has amassed one of the largest vaults of self tutorials around. But comprehension is a necessity.
You need to get that fixed.
Nope. You will not get a Christmas card or dinner invite from me this year. But if you get smarter, we can revisit that decision next year.
Good day, sir!
My guess in this instance, Trump knows Jordan has the best chance of winning. So by Trump endorsing him he gets another W in the endorsement column.
And I say this because, like you say Lube, this endorsement is not smart from a strategy standpoint. So I really don’t know any other reason for why he would it.
Eventually even the slow thinking people have a Eureka coming to Jesus moment and see the light.
Given the state of this country and the world, lets all keep praying the light isn’t all out nuclear war.
God bless you and yours
Don’t get me wrong.
I am absolutely a Trump believer.
But sometimes he does the most Dumb-Ass things.
This is one of them.
I could just “shrug” it off, IF IT WASN’T SO DAMN IMPORTANT TO THE SURVIVAL OF OUR NATION.
Agreed! Remember Trump was a DemonRat for most of his life in Marxist New York City. God is just using Trump like how he used Moses to deliver his people out of Egypt and then made Joshua take his people to the promised land. Moses could not go to the promised land but God chose Joshua to take God’s people to the promised land. We have to be delivered out of this evil psychopathic Marxist world and then the Lord will give us a new leader to continue the journey .
Not really. When Paul Ryan was Speaker, he pulled the same stunt with Dave Brat – make promises to get Freedom Caucus support then don’t deliver. Brat tried to get support to force Ryan to vacate the Chair, but didn’t have the numbers. Brat ended up not running for re-election (I think RNC re-drew his district).
This time around, Freedom Caucus baked in some rules to remove the Speaker if he didn’t deliver on promises made. McCarthy tried to call their bluff and Gaetz (and 7 others) made him pay for it. If nothing else, Gaetz and 7 other Republicans may be done pretending. How far they get with it is to be determined.
Sidebar note – I was surprised to see Rep. Mace vote to oust McCarthy. She’s ambitious and an opportunist; she may feel she needs this for her re-election campaign. Katie Arrington is from that district so there is a strong MAGA demographic. I don’t expect much more in the way of MAGA from Rep. Mace.
Agreed! Well said.
So what was gained by removing McCarthy. Trump keeps supporting our enemies.
What alternatives were there?
RINO Tom Emmer – way worse than McCarthy
Steve Scalise – Shot by a Russiagater and refuses to hold the Russigate people to account
Nancy Mace – Total snake. Goes on Fox and says one thing, goes on CNN and says the complete opposite
Who else is there? Gaetz won’t run because he knows he can’t win. Trump himself wouldn’t run for probably the same reasons, plus he’s got a Presidential campaign to run. Who else is there?
Devin Nunes.
Isn’t he busy running Truth?
Smiling…yes.
He is ok with CR’s, so NO!
Good for you! Now that would be sweet!
Devin NUNES or Lee Zeldin.
Zeldin would be excellent!
It’s the VOTERS that keep voting on the RINOS!
When patriots don’t step up to challenge and replace them,
this is what happens – the lesser of two evils.
Trump 2024
Yes, but the voters have been fooled. We are becoming less and less fooled. Sundance has been a big part of that.
A guy from Oklahoma Hearns I think is his name? He threw his name in the ring and I think Elise Stefanik threw her name in.
Beyond herding cats, one of the main jobs of Speaker is fund raising. I’m not saying I agree with that, just stating facts. McCarthy was really good at fund raising, hence why he became Speaker. I think I recall hearing McCarthy raised something like 70% of the money for the house reelection fund.
If we want real change in DC we have to figure out how to return campaigning and fund raising to the grass roots level. We can start with the 8 that voted McCarthy out, they are marked for defeat majority and/or holding the house be damned. If you can afford to throw them a few bucks please do so.
Now is the time for all of us to pitch in. Try to help in whatever way we can. If you like your representative or maybe you don’t love them but prefer them to a democrat majority. Think about ways you can help, not just donating money, maybe volunteering? Walk a neighborhood or dedicate an evening yo make phone calls.
McCarthy may have raised 70% of the money for the House reelection campaigns but he used that money
1) to help incumbents against MAGA primary challengers.
2) would not use the money to help MAGA candidates that won their primaries against RNC picks.
3) would not help MAGA candidates that contested fraudulent elections.
I wasn’t trying to defend McCarthy, simply stating the facts as I understand them.
You are absolutely correct about McCarthy putting money against MAGA candidates. It will no doubt be ten times worse in 2024.
I think most of us abhor how much donors and their money influence politics, but it is the system we currently have.
My point was McCarthy will either not raise money or use it for revenge. We may not be millionaires but there is strength in numbers. If we all find a way to pitch in either by pooling our small donations or by donating our time or if nothing else talking to our neighbors and social circles we can make a difference.
So being speaker and MAGA puts one in a compromising position of raising money for the RINO side of the enemy UNIPARTY.
I was wondering how that was going to work. A true MAGA rebel in SOH position would wreak havoc on the UNiparty game and the RINOs, could really do some exposing.
Hence, hopefully Trump got some good negotiating power by endorsing Jordan. Maybe Jordan was compromised and now is compromised no longer.
I know this, we are gaining ground, throwing sand, getting more sunlight every day.
We must keep it up.
Or what if, someone with MAGA values actually advanced MAGA candidates with funding and not RINO’s?
The litmus test for good candidates shouldn’t be their willingness to sell their souls to lobbyists like the RINO model. Strong principles of America First being rewarded with funding would do my heart good.
I simply don’t trust Jim Jordan to do it.
Trump has to deal with the cards you and I have dealt him. From my perspective it is not a hand to be proud. Those GOPe’s are there because of US.
Given the amount of fraud shown over the past three elections, how do WE know the cards, and most of them are indeed CARDS, are there because of US? Answer: We really don’t know.
Matt Rosendale from Montana has a MAGA record.
I saw Kevin Hern, (R) OK first district, 2nd term Congressman, interviewed by Rob Schmidt on Newsmax this past Wednesday evening show. I liked what I saw. Obviously, no Politician is perfect but Hern seems like an outsider- first elected in 2018 and operated up to 18 McDonalds franchises and is definitely private sector before politics. His Wiki page contains some attacks on him so he’s already taking flak from TPTB.
Kash Patel
You have to wonder if anyone has ever told Donald Trump that Congress funds the FBI, the DOJ, Merrick Garland, special prosecutor Jack Smith, etc. and that they could all be defunded, but a fight like that would require a Congress full of fighters, all of whom would have to be completely above reproach and incorruptible. Has anyone ever told him that Congress could fight for him but they will not because they hate him, and despise the thought of him being president again?
I don’t think that we can go on blaming RINOs in Trump’s inner circle, or whatever rationalization we grab onto, for Trump’s failure to learn anything, while all the rest of us are having our entire view of reality utterly transformed by what has been happening to Trump. I think it was obvious that Trump was completely ineducable when he failed to start another political party right after the Republicans— and yes it was mostly Republicans—threw him out of office in 2020.
Again, this is a guy who at one time or another has endorsed four of his most deadly enemies, Mitch McConnell, Kevin McCarthy, Brian Kemp, and Ron DeSantis. Jim Jordan will be the fifth. Trump shows no signs of ever acquiring the ability to discern his friends from his enemies, and it’s utterly demoralizing.
Correction: Jordan will be the sixth, because Trump endorsed Doug Ducey for AZ governor in 2018, and Ducey is just as guilty as Brian Kemp in kicking Trump out of the White House in 2020. Again, it’s not just that Trump can’t discern his friends from the enemies, it is that he almost always endorses, actually endorses for high political office, his worst enemies.
Politics is a complicated business. It is never a straightforward business. Sometimes you need those enemies and sometimes, you need the friends. In a family, every character is needed for diverse situations.
Politics is a complicated business. It is never a straightforward business. Sometimes you need those enemies…
Substitute the word NYC for the word politics and that’s how Trump got a lot built in that city. (Although personally I think politics is much worse.) You work with the hand you’re dealt.
Real world, not “fictional.”
Love me some (late) Rodney!
I believe the politics is complicated ONLY when your a criminal traitor looking for a grift and scam of the people and not following the USA Constitution.
Trump understands leverage and right now he doesn’t have the power to oust every one just because we want him to. Also Trump and his family are under CONSTANT threat of harm–he has to be very careful.
Trump does what he can based on the choices VOTERS have given him.
People keep voting in theses representatives in the swamp.
People keep ignoring that.
No. The STATE keeps installing these idiots. Learn this and maybe you’ll understand.
Correct and a very astute point. We, the voters, really have no idea how votes are cast or counted.
Take that one step further. There is a strong belief here that local involvement can overcome the fraud. Is it worth the effort? Perhaps in a cross country, every level, organized effort.
But the organizational effort needed would be massive in headcount, roles, responsibilities and the details within. I’m not aware of something that complex in nature taking place. Would love to hear it but not aware.
If you’ve ever had the responsibility of authoring or executing national or global business plans, even product launches or marketing plans for such efforts, you can comprehend the detail required. It cannot be overstated and it must not be underestimated.
And the answer would still be perhaps. But far from a guarantee.
The reason I say that is my own knowledge and experience of software and technology.
Simply watching ballots being inspected and fed into machines tells the observer absolutely NOTHING of what happens inside of the machines. The systems needed, to have real time access and audit capabilities across precincts, municipalities, counties and states has many obstacles. At least under current election rules and laws.
Lastly, if the Judicial Systems are truly corrupt, then none of it matters.
Personally I’ve moved onto the dead horse in bed position..but that’s just me. The theatre just doesn’t interest me at this point.
Always easier to blame Trump for you electing those RINOs? We are getting what we voted for good and hard as the RINOs from Instapundit call it.
Defending and deflecting from RINOs and casting aspersions on Trump’s knowledge of what Congress does and doesn’t do and what he knows about its processes and thinking that ‘someone’ needs to tell (educate) him tells me all I need to know.
👁️
Our new friends aren’t here to buy, they are desperately selling.
Love the anti Trump comments, they give me a good laugh every time.
They also make me respect president Trump even more
Keep it up lefty.
Trump is an exceptionally brave and courageous man, almost the Nietschean ubermensch. But he still has very real limitations, and anyone who hasn’t noticed those limitations is just being silly.
Says who?
God bless, David.
Trump is our human but therefore, flawed, warrior. Jesus is our pure savior.
No false idolatry here.
This is exactly right. Trump has had a track record of supporting bad appointees from the very beginning. Repeating the same thing over and over and expecting different results is the opposite of sanity.
Trump was a true outsider. He didn’t know who was who.
Now he knows who is who and their skeletons and he will leverage that.
He’s perfectly aware CONgress could end the weaponization because, if nothing else, Matt Gaetz has mentioned it repeatedly. He’s also perfectly aware that they’re never, ever going to do that.
A good leader has to be pragmatic. Burning the Republican Party down and starting a new one just isn’t practical. Do you know how hard it is to get on the ballot in even the key states, not to mention all 50 states? Plus, a new party is not going to be able to replicate the Republican Party’s infrastructure overnight. Doing what you’re suggesting and replacing the majority of Republicans in Congress with a Congress full of Matt Gaetzes would take ten, maybe twenty years, and plenty of trial and error, if it can even be done.
He’s perfectly aware that Kevin McCarthy was a snake but, as he himself said, ‘So is everyone else in DC’. I imagine he has a similar view of Cocaine Mitch, Miss Lindsey, Ron DeStablishment, and so on. But sometimes, snakes have to be handled, and Trump probably thought that backing them would be better than the alternative. Look at what Democrats do when they get power. Leticia James ran on weaponizing her office against Trump and, once she won, guess what she did? She weaponized her office against Trump.
By backing Jordan, I imagine, Trump is trying avoid a protracted fight over House leadership that could potentially lead to the Democrats appointing Jeffries as Speaker at worst, or end up dividing the party when the party needs to come together and focus on their business at best
If you’re trying to avoid a rotten apple, you don’t go to the Apple barrel you go to the tree. That’s the advantage of starting a new political party. I don’t think it would take 10, 20, or 30 years, and even if it did how long will it take us to reform the Republican party? We haven’t even started reforming the Republican Party, because we haven’t even completely plumbed the depths of its corruption.
Starting a third party at this moment is a fool’s errand and a splitter strategy to dilute Trump’s vote in a general election and most everyone frequenting this site knows it as has been discussed ad ad nauseum.
Apparently, you’re new to this site and have no clue that state party leadership and committees are slowly but surely being replaced by MAGA folks, nor some of the suits that have already been successful in part and are moving along in the system.
Perhaps you should study the comments of Dutchman and have a discourse with him on that, who has an uncanny appreciation and knowledge of exactly how party politics works all the way down to the municipal and county levels. And who regularly educates everyone who visits this site.
Let us know how that goes, please, as I’ve yet to see anyone effectively counter his understanding. No one.
No need to gain majority right away… just need enough , however few to to cause an imbalance in Congress…. Just like the 8
You are not allowed to question or criticize PDJT here. He is never wrong here. I write than without even scrolling further. Now I will hit “post” and scroll further.
Not true. have doubted Trump here, and we should never trust any man fully. We are practical here. We question each other. I have been flamed here before, sometimes justly, sometimes not.
Oh, you can criticize Trump here, but you could and probably will be also be challenged about it.
That’s the beauty of dialogue, discourse and debate and countering deflections.
Not wanting or not liking to be challenged on one’s views, analysis or opinions is kind of like riding “an imaginary high horse” for one who thinks he/she should not be challenged for their perspective is what I recall being scolded and told.
I guess what’s good for the “goose doesn’t apply to the gander,” huh?
BK, when discussing matters with one self-named “Lube”, it’s never a surprise to find greasiness…
✅😂
President Trump is backing Jordan because he knows that Jordan is the only guy that can get the votes to win. It’s actually pretty simple.
I think it was obvious that Trump was completely ineducable when he failed to start another political party right after the Republicans— and yes it was mostly Republicans—threw him out of office in 2020.
We don’t know what he knew then. What is “Obvious” to us, is not the reality he was dealing with.
One thing that still stands. PDJT did more for this country as president in the years he was president, against more resistance and opposition than any president has ever faced — to miraculous porportions. That is more undeniable and “obvious” than what looks to us like failures.
We have no doubt, based on his tracks (and not just on his words) who Trump is fighting for.
Lol
Ok
David, thank you for posting and saving me the time to write something very similar.
We have no better choice than Trump for President.
Contrary to many posters today, you speak the truth about his endorsements.
I can totally forgive all his horrible appointments & endorsements from 2016 into part of 2020.
By 2020, it was obviously who 98% of his enemies where, yet he kept on endorsing traitors.
For those still convinced that he has not made mistakes, Trump has endorsed all 3 McTraitors.
Jim Jordan is not a traitor, but he is not going to help make any significant difference.
You can take this prediction to the bank… before December 2025, Trump will post “I can’t believe Jim Jordan screwed me”
Have you ever considered that those ‘mistakes’ by Trump were not intentional strategies to expose more RINOs and swamp creatures to the public to their detriment?
Last I heard, Trump was a “very stable genius” that keeps causing these folks who keep attacking and undermining him to fall into his “quicksand.”
Good point.
I can accept that some of the “mistakes” were for exposure.
I can also accept that 99% of the elected federal body are parasites, therefore, he only has a 1% chance of picking a winner from that (cess)pool.
However, it’s not a genius move to put proven, parasite traitors in the #1 position in the Senate, House and RNC.
It’s also not a genius move to keep picking from the parasite pool. Why doesn’t he endorse SOH someone who is not already a member of the corrupt House? There are dozens of names that have been suggested on this site. Sure, I understand that the parasites won’t provide enough votes to someone MAGA; however, that is no excuse to not try. Also, that strategy is more effective at exposing RINOs.
President Trump is human, so I accept that he is not a perfect genius. He is still a million times better than any other politician and has done way more than any other politician to expose the corruption.
Who can win? I mean really win against the dems and GOPe. Jim Jordan may be a vehicle for unity of the republicans without burning 100% of the bridges that lie ahead of us. I believe we can all agree that we don’t want a dem taking over at this juncture.
I do think we the MAGA base should make clear to Jordan and to PDJT in supporting Jordan that we are watching and expecting changes in the operational status quo, not talk.
You must have missed my point on “exposure” below. Here it is for your slow digestion.
Are you saying he is endorsing Jordan in order to expose him too?
So PDJT is willing to waste another, how many months of a GOP House majority, in order to expose ONE more swamp creature AFTER wasting 10 months of it just to expose McCarthy? Just to confirm what the rest of us already know?
At that rate it will take him 184+ years to expose all of the GOP House members. Not a smart plan.
And not smart calling it smart
You throw shade at PDJT’s choices but offer no specific names as alternatives to the individuals he chose.
Please demonstrate your superior judgement by listing the better (realistically electable) choice for each of the people you named.
Exactly, GB.
Complains but offers no alternative solutions.
Sounds kind of like deflection of subject and diverting others’ attention, huh?
Who is NOT an enemy?
You won’t go wrong by assuming if they are in DC, they are the enemy. There were only 8 voting to remove McCarthy.
Or exposing them?
Awesome. Are you saying he is endorsing Jordan in order to expose him too?
So PDJT is willing to waste another, how many months of a GOP House majority, in order to expose ONE more swamp creature AFTER wasting 10 months of it just to expose McCarthy? Just to confirm what the rest of us already know?
At that rate it will take him 184+ years to expose all of the GOP House members. Not a smart plan.
Funny how PDJT seems to have a habit of doing things like that. Also funny how many people always come to his defense with “what else is he supposed to do” or “trust him” or “he has his reasons” yada yada yada.
You ask, what had been gained? Time. Nearly 10 months out of the 24 month term of the GOP House majority.
Who gained that time? According to SD, Jordan is part and parcel to the “professionally Republican wing of the administrative state.” That is who gained the time. They AND their ultimate masters, the Swamp. And once gain, PDJT is exposed for trying to work within a professional Republican wing of the administrative state that despises him.
Nearly seven years into the morass and still burying his head in the mucky bottom looking for a true ally.
Jordan is Trey Gowdy without the bad hair. Full of great words. Fun to listen to. Full stop. That’s it to this point in his career. Is there a chance he can win? Anyone who will kowtow to the Swamp agenda has a chance to be voted in.
The MAGA agenda gets words. The Swamp agenda gets wins.
Watch closely now but prepare for nothing more to be gained other than more time for the professional Republican wing of the administrative state.
What a show.
If you have a better plan, why not share with us?
Trump has not been exposed to trying to work within a professional Republican wing. He is exposing it for everyone to see so MAGA can ultimately replace it.
But I guess that’s kind of hard some folks to comprehend.
Did you catch that I wrote (above) “what a show”? Remember that one? Trigger set. Pull. And here you are. God bless you buddy.
Man are you THICK. Every time someone outside of your groupthink circle provides you with alternatives, you shout them down with the same tired ass phrases that have been typed on these boards for YEARS.
Leave the damn cult and you might learn something.
You, dutchess and the core fill the boards every day, nearly every article, and I laugh at most. Neither of you understand: Wise men speak because they have something to say. Fools speak because they have to say something.
The same exhausting drivel year after year. Somehow you believe yourselves to be brilliant in spite of a public record of being wrong time and time again.
Our enemies?
Where’s your list of good guys? Put it out there so I can see who the good guys are.
Exactly!
Trump keeps exposing our enemies.
I believe Trump endorsed McCarthy for speaker because he knew McCarthy would be installed regardless. Perhaps the same applies here to Jordan.
I agree. It’s not like there were a lot of choices and even fewer the 200 plus RINOS would vote for!
Trump endorsed McCarthy over Hakeem Jefferies because Jefferies is worse than Obama.
A trillion times YES!!!!!
How is that an excuse, much less a justification?
So what are YOU doing, besides bitching?
David, I like you. You’re going to be every bit as popular here as I am. Why? Because you are correct and evidence that doesn’t fit the narrative of groupthink must be attacked while the dissident (you in this case) must be ridiculed.
Now you are a do nothing and a bitcher. Welcome to my world, I am a defeatist (it is a badge of honor).
The reality is that you are correct. Endorsing someone because they will be installed isn’t only, not an excuse or a justification, it’s not smart either. How smart was it to endorse McConnel, as you pointed out earlier? McCarthy? A long line of them? It wasn’t.
I don’t know about you but I don’t endorse people who will work against me.
If there isn’t anyone worth endorsing, don’t endorse anyone and tell your base “there is nobody worth endorsing.” If there is someone worth endorsing but they are only going to get two votes, endorse them, so your base knows. Have your principles and stick to them.
Compromised principles are lost principles.
Well said!
In the end, just common sense. God bless!
Lube, you are self fulfilling your prophecy with your comment. You are bitching and negative in that comment. It’s all lost. It’s all hopeless, say you.
There is a wide spectrum of people here. I have found you can be different and even 180 degrees opposite, as long as you make logical sense, and still be respected. People change their minds. Sundance has changed his mind many times and admitted it as he did in his post.
We are here to learn first, find truth, and support our Nation. Not carry our personal agendas. Together we seek the agenda that is best for this nation.
Yes, we vent our emotions a little, but then get to work seeking to have power in our wider spectrum of experience among the treepers, catalyzed by Sundance.
But bitching just to bitch, or win our point at all costs — justs adds noise and takes time from those trying to find truth and solutions.
Doc, I’m guessing you missed the context of my comment. That’s ok. It’s easy to do in written forums like this, instead if face to face discussions. I was not calling David a “do nothing and a bitcher” that label was applied to him by another, as you call them, treeper.
Defeatist? That was a label applied to me on one of my, at the time, very infrequent comments here.
Now if I am wrong, and you are asserting that by echoing the labels applied to us by your fellow treepers, that would be the poster child of hypocrisy. So I hope that wasn’t it.
Read this again, Doc
If there isn’t anyone worth endorsing, don’t endorse anyone and tell your base “there is nobody worth endorsing.” If there is someone worth endorsing but they are only going to get two votes, endorse them, so your base knows. Have your principles and stick to them.
Compromised principles are lost principles.
That’s not bitching. It’s an answer.
You will not find a more ardent supporter of PDJT than myself. But he is not Jesus. He is human. He has faults. He makes mistakes. We all do.
Jesus is beyond reproach for me. It begins and ends there. God bless.
If an influence operation is being realized as futile and not effective in its intended goals and desired/effective outcomes to a degree where frustration and lashing out at the host and his supporters because their views cannot be effectively challenged, changed or altered is the only country to the exposure of the op, even while working in teams, then why continue to further assert oneself to counters, challenges and exposure.
If one disagrees the views of the host and the commenters and the commenters’ challenges to your views and opinions, you don’t have to be here nor comment.
Riding that ‘imaginary high horse.’
Disagree with the host? Guess I missed SDs articles endorsing Jordan. Please point me to them so I can apologize.
Imaginary high horse? I might be the smartest man in the world.
Do you know how I know that? They say people learn from their mistakes and I’ve made more than anyone.
So please point me to the SD article endorsing Jordan and I will both apologize and learn from yet another mistake in my infinite list of them.
I’m still waiting to read, apologize and learn.
Lube & David, I am also in your camp now. However, we are not defeatist…
We accept things for the way they are, not how we wish they were.
This SOH sh!tshow is a perfect example that you already articulated.
We could program AI computer program to figure out a better choice than Jim Jordan:
10 All current R in House are corrupt/compromised except a few who voted to remove mcTraitor. Do not endorse anyone in this group under any circumstance.
20 Endorse one of these exceptions for the first round of voting
30 If 20 fails, then endorse someone who is not in group from step 10
40 If 30 fails, then keep endorsing from group in step 30
50 If 40 fails, then Trump nominates himself
60 If 50 fails, then the Republic is officially over
Correct bkrg. The defeatist is simply a label provided by the groupthink core who cannot unwind themselves. In spite of the reality of the infinite GOP failures all documented here by SD, the core treetins think we’re psychotic.
There is no difference trying to discuss these things with them than there is when debating liberals. They reject, out of hand, all evidence contrary to their narrative.
So I’ve decided I’ll simply treat them the same. Give it back to them.
My civil sided reality position is simple: Get closer to God and prepare yourself and your family, as best you can, for what is coming.
You want hope? Run to Jesus, not the government. That’s a fact.
You’re a loquacious poster, Lube, steadfast and resolute in pointing out problems in detail.
Can you present your suggestion for solutions in some detail? You have a dedicated audience here, make your case (regarding solutions) in as much detail as possible, and prove it as best you can, that’s a contribution to the discussion.
Let me help you get the ball rolling by summarizing your points that I’ve read so far:
You recall when GW “Chimp” Bush remarked:
“If this were a dictatorship it would be a heck of a lot easier… as long as I’m the dictator. Hehehe.”
― George W. Bush
And clearly, President Trump isn’t and will never be “the dictator”…
Food for thought for you and everyone else regarding this situation – now what’s the solution?
Dear Mr Jones. I was with you until you twisted my comments into your own words.
The subject of the SD article is PDJT endorsing Jim Jordan for Speaker of the GOP majority House.
Please read SD’s thoughts, and refresh your memory, on Jim Jordan a mere two days ago: https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/10/04/beware-the-anger-manager-judiciary-chairman-jim-jordan-says-he-would-accept-house-speaker-role/
Now read my the core words of my comment again.
If there isn’t anyone worth endorsing, don’t endorse anyone and tell your base “there is nobody worth endorsing.” If there is someone worth endorsing but they are only going to get two votes, endorse them, so your base knows. Have your principles and stick to them.
Compromised principles are lost principles.
Not at all what you said I said is it? I agree, it isn’t. God bless.
That’s a lot of words for “I am full of shit but I’ll support my troll buddy anyway.”
You have no principles if you are ok with the Uniparty sellout of America to those whom would see her destroyed.
“You have no principles if you are ok with the Uniparty sellout of America to those whom would see her destroyed.”
My Dear Alley. Please point me to my words stating what you just insinuated I have said. If you cannot do so, then I and others will understand who is full of sh!t.
Good luck to you.
It’s neither. It’s an explanation of strategy to expose and destroy the RINOs.
Nope…Jordan was the best of 3 possibilities.
There was little choice.
It was either Hakeem Jeffies or Kevin McCarthy.
You’ve got it MP.
He usually does.
If Satan were about to be voted into office, would you endorse him just so you could say you endorsed the winner? Or in the hope of having better relations with Satan when he gets in office?
I believe that an influential person should use his influence to try to improve things, not to try to smooth relations with Satan (which cannot be done anyway).
Look at what Trump got for endorsing McCarthy. He got worse than nothing; he got screwed with a debt ceiling deal that removed the debt ceiling until the next president comes into the office in January, 2025. Because of McCarthys fecklessness the next president, whom we are hoping will be Trump, will be faced with an immediate, severe fiscal crisis. That’s what McCarty did to Donald Trump and return for his endorsement.
And that’s not the only thing. McCarthy’s latest outrage with the 45 day CR, which he relied on Democrat votes to pass, Was done in part to help Gwen Youngkin with his election in Virginia in the hope of having Youngkin enter the presidential primary race and beat Trump. All of which goes to show that endorsing your enemies is not helpful, but I would’ve thought common sense would be adequate to demonstrate that.
Yes sir, David. Don’t know you but I like you. You do get it.
Do you think maybe some/many of the core treetins here are suffering from Stockholm Syndrome? Amazing how they rush to the defense of RINOs. Or, as SD has so eloquently stated: “Insert vote, pull lever, get pellet… repeat!”
He’d of done better stalling the SOH nomination for a week or two! At least stop the money to Ukraine and make them negotiate.
Trump wants what I want and that is for these people to get back to work on our issues/problems. It is my hope that JJ will abide by the Motion to Vacate, Regular Rules of Order and No more Ukraine funds. Time to save America is of the essence.
Fingers crossed that happens.
Wrong people.
It’s filled with criminals that have not done anything for the people or country yet, so why keep them around when they already proved they are epic failures or complicit traitors.
Am curious to see if there were any backroom deals presented by PDJT to Jim Jordan in order to gain PDJT’s endorsement; and if Rep. Gaetz is in on whatever that backroom deal was/is.
Wonder if the RINO’s are so ticked off with both Gaetz and PDJT that Jordan will need all of the Democrat plus 8 Republican votes to win the seat?
This is one of those times
I hope I am wrong.
For quite a while Jordan
has been a Trey Gowdy
clone to me.
All talk…no action.
Just a different person…
same BS.
This is a prove me wrong
moment….
The Speaker of the House controls what happens.
As you pointed out, previously, SD, and with which I absolutely agree, Jim Jordan is compromised. There’s no way around it. Can Byron D. be nominated?
As I said before, Trump had some negotiating power. His willingness to be SOH carried some serious negotiating power, and every second he stayed in the ring was costing the RINOs big.
I hope he got some mileage out of that, and I trust he did.
His batting average for coming up with big gains when it looks like he’s losing is impressive.
I would venture to say even his loss of 2020 has position We the People as well as him stronger than had he won.
He has made great gains for We the People as “not being president” than any other past president in history. Prove me wrong.
Me, I really don’t care anymore who the speaker is as I already know the endgame for our country. Nobody can stop what is motion and no one ever fixes anything until they or it, crashes and burns.
We can’t Coexist until we leave each other alone.
As we’ve seen with the situation in Ukraine, and what’s happening with Taiwan, the people in DC don’t want anyone to be left alone. They want power and control. Over everyone and every thing.
Believing history has already been written is a marxist trate. In reality, only God knows the future.
I interpreted this to not necessarily be defeatist but an acknowledgment that this country’s MO is to shine in disasters .We will not unite until we all experience it.
Believing in elections or trials or legislature is delusional since these are all corrupt.
There doesn’t appear to be a better mechanism to awaken anyone at this point other than “get comfortable being uncomfortable. It’s going to get alot worse.”
But Sundance is quite right, live your best life, you only have today and it is silly to be forgetting that we are not uniquely experiencing this. if nothing else should draw us together, that should. We are a mighty mighty majority.
Great post. Thank you!
yep. and the powermongering types will never leave us alone until they are more afraid for their lives. and there’s only a few ways to make them fear for their lives.
there are no answers or salvation or justice from DC, no matter who is installed. the fix must come from bottom up and the good guys need to shed their gentle sensibilities to make it happen.
There is trust in God. There is no trust in government.
Your comment is every bit as correct as your moniker.
The crash and burn will take place. Get closer to God and prepare yourself and your family, as best you can, for what is coming.
I’m not even surprised as I’m sure the lines to DJT have been on fire with the plea, “we need normalcy. Jim is solid.” And so forth.
GOPe do NOT get it. We really are willing to let the whole rotten thing burn down because we know how bad 99.9% of it is.
I also believe one of DJT’s greatest strengths has and is being used against him.
If he likes you, it’s harder for him to believe you’d wish him ill.
He also believes he can negotiate a good deal with anyone.
Most of the time he’s right but he’s missing that the UniParty is more dangerous, vindictive and evil than he realizes.
Perfect. I’ve stated very much the same sentiments on these boards previously.
One of PDJTs strengths is his trust in those working with him. Building relationships takes trust. He has been very good at that over his business career. That’s how business gets done all over the globe. He is willing to trust them (in DC) and it has been incessantly used against him.
One of the worst examples that I’ve read was his agreeing to wave Executive Privilege for Mueller, granting Mueller access to his staff and lawyers in return for a quick end to the Mueller investigation. Quick in DC? Two years. Yeah, PDJT got took.
And he still does not seem to understand.
It has absolutely become a glaring Achilles heel for him that could fester into a mortal wound. He has to stop. DC despises him. If he doesn’t get it by now, it doesn’t seem he ever will.
You don’t know what he understands or not because you can’t talk to him directly to ask him. IMO, PDJT has to juggle how to use the resources we the voters have given him so that he can continue to work for MAGA objectives.
If we want him to do differently, we have to give him more workable resources. That means working as tirelessly as he does to develop better resources AND get them placed where they are needed.
I don’t disagree with your comment and we all should be working at the grassroots level to the best of our ability.
The problem is the GOPe actively participates in those that are allowed to be candidates.
They are actively seeking to remove MAGA from the party and marginalizing our voices.
They control almost all of the pursestrings that enable these candidates to run.
Look at how the GOPe/RNC didn’t give adequate funds to known America First advocates.
Look how many GOP incumbent representatives chose to retire in 2018.
The playbook is not new, they did it to us with the Tea Party.
The sad truth is the GOPe doesn’t care about making America great again or if she is first.
Recall how Sundance often states the GOP is about the money, the democrats are about the power.
I am optimistic that more Americans realize what is happening but to varying degrees. We are living the willful destruction of our nation.
The challenging part is we face a more cohesive, diverse , empowered and dangerous crew that seek to dismantle (I’m being kind) the will of the American people.
We need warriors and I am simply not confident that Jim Jordan fits the bill.
You are correct tk. I do not have a direct line to PDJT’s mind. Which puts you and I, and everyone else here, in the exact same position.
We use deductive reasoning, the God given power that differentiates us from animals, to assess. And the deductive reasoning, based on preponderance of evidence told many of us that his decision to endorse Kevin McCarthy was going to turn out poorly.
We have been proven correct.
Now he has endorsed Jim Jordan. Based upon all available evidence, many of us do not believe this will end favorably for PDJT or us, his base. On this topic, there is nothing more I’d like than to eat crow and be wrong. Pray that I am.
God bless you and yours. And I hope your grass roots effort shows success.
A couple of thoughts…
The eventual winner could be Ken Hern, R-OK. Everyone may hate Jim and Matt so much, they will vote for him. Maybe that is the real plan.
It also could be possible that PT made a deal with Jim Jordan to ‘getttr done’, he will assist from behind the curtain. And if Jordan does not perform, the single ‘Vacate the Seat’ stays in effect and will be used again.
No matter who the Speaker may be, I would gather up every Republican House member in a huddle.
In return for a full Yay vote and witness testimony against all of the main criminals, I would offer immunity to every Republican, after a clawback of all stolen monetary funds.
Then, I would let all Hell break loose.
When asked if they should change the motion to vacate, to make it harder to invoke, JJ said that would be up to the conference to decide, but if thats what they wanted, he would support it.
I don’t see Gaetz invoking it on his mentor, JJ even if JJ performs just like KM did,..so we get rid of KM smarmy mug, in exchange we get JJ’s,…a distinction without a difference?
I would keep the current plan in place. Almost like having a you-know-what pointed at your noodle. Someone else can always demand the vacate motion.
Give JJ 15 days to see how he operates, Apprentice-style.
Also, all parties may surprise us.
That’s exactly it. So long as the Motion to Vacate is in place, whoever succeeds McCarthy will be forced to do whatever the base wants, or else be removed. Democrats have shown they’re perfectly willing to go along with any attempt to remove a Republican speaker. Like Rich Baris said, the Republican politicians are starting to realize what the Republican voters have known all along – The Democrats are not their ‘friends across the aisle’, they are their complete and total ideological enemies
You are right. There could be a lot of 4 level chess going on at this crucial point of existence.
Such is my only hope in this situation, that an understanding has been made between our Lion and the putative pugilist.
I am certainly damn glad McShameless is gone.
Will we get Gaetz’ motion to vacate rule to remain to at least suggest some accountability?
I think we need to bug Gaetz to demand the same rules . . .
IMHO motion to vacate in place to be invoked if flow to Ukraine of American taxpayer funds continues – this is the Cloward-Piven Strategy in overdrive –
also, what about the J6 prisoners and now the thing we did not know back in January, about the J6 committee destroying all the material gathered – they need to be prosecuted for that, they are the ones who should be in the laogai, not those languishing there now!
Good points, especially the destruction of J6 material, which seems forgotten.
And thank you for expanding my vocabulary. Did not know laogai.
I believe Jim may have been completely boxed in because Kev was working for Pelosi.
🤔
a possibility.
the real problem is that these with families are sooooo vulnerable to all the weaponized bureaus. Unless you are only a drop in politician (meaning they really do go back to their districts and not engage in DC uniparty corruption) you are likely to be subject to manipulation, be it bribes or threats
I saw Hern on Newsmax Wednesday night for my first time. I still don’t know much about Hern but what little I saw I liked.
One step forward two steps back if this is the deal then we need to put the same restraints on JJ that we put on McCarthy live up to MAGA or we will burn you down . Sundance as always thank you for you’r time and insight much love and respect please watch your back and be safe
R.D.
Devin Nunez would have been good
He was my choice.
For what it’s worth, Jordan says he is against sending more aid to Ukraine, and that our own border and crime on the streets are more important to the American people:
linderella wach what he does not what he says McCarthy sed the same things HE LYED
Says
Sundance is almost always right….
But I think there is a small amount of potential for Jordan with this almost impossible job of being Speaker (considering the make up of both House and the Senate he must make deals with). I also think he is somewhat more trustworthy than McCarthy was also. Hoping Trump keeps him on the straight and narrow path.
We will know soon enough.
He may just be thinking Jordan is much better for him to work with than Scalise would be.
Scalise stabbed him in the back. After he went and visited with him in the hospital following his shooting, too
Scalise was shot by a man who was all in on the Russian Hoax but never went after those who perpetuated it. That could have been a massacre. All because the 4th branch concocted a bunch of crazy lies. I had NewsMax on Tuesday night and the reps lamenting McCarthy behaved like petulant children. It will be rough pulling Jordan over the line. I prefer Nunes but that would be even more difficult or even impossible. Too many are in ot for the wrong reasons….serving the people isn’t one of them.
Hopefully Gaetz demands and gets the same rules for Jordan regarding the position as McCarthy did. What can be elected should and can be de-elected. Right now we have to see if Jordan (1) gets elected and (2) he steps to the plate and puts MAGA first. Note, it’s good to be skeptical because betrayal has been too often a hallmark of our elected officials and especially some of those presumably carrying the MAGA banner. Now, do I think Jordan is the best choice? Well, I wonder how many of the RINOs and Democrats will support him because that will raise a concern.
This is bad, but the real threat is Stefanik. Someone fed her those Comey questions when she was a freshman in 2017, IMO (Nunes?).
Since then, Stefanik reminds me of Joni Ernst photobombing McConnell and Thune. Stefanik is always in the frame with McCarthy. And what has she done as Conference Chair besides not be named Liz Cheney? I don’t care that she went to Harvard: DJT should not even think about considering her for VP.
Who is advising Trump on Speaker? Trump should have gone to the House tomorrow, if only to torment everyone but the 8. Is Jason Miller promoting Jordan? Or Nunes, who checked out of the House after 1/21 TBH?
There may not be anyone electable and palatable, which of course is the problem and the point.
Let’s pray Trump finally learns to avoid the Whammies. “Fool me once” is a good place to start.
So…why do I keep supporting Trump when he makes endorsements like this? I get my ass handed to me every day for staying with him; trying to explain his bad choices for cabinet and other posts during his administration. Fool me once?
Jordan was the best choice who actually had a chance of winning nomination.
My guess is there was a real possibility of spiteful paid off Republicans crossing over and supporting a Democrat like Hakeem Jeffries unless the Jordan was installed.
As someone who sees and calls out PDJTs flaws, I can tell you that I continue to support him out of gratitude and respect for what he does better that any others. Gratitude for showing the world how corrupt this government and media really are. Respect for all the arrows (lies, persecution and now prosecution) he has taken in the process and continues to take while refusing to go away.
And if he is still standing there on election day, I’ll vote one last time in my lifetime. For him. Because, in my mind, I OWE HIM that much (at the very minimum). Flaws and all. There just isn’t any other viable alternative (IMO). The rest all appear to be products of the swamp in one capacity or another.
Pray as I do that he can overcome some of his flaws. This country needs him as close to flawless as is humanly possible.
God bless you and yours, Michael.
What the actual F. I have watched closely Matt Gaetz over the last few days. He definitely had Trump’s full support in ousting Kevin McCarthy. I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump hadn’t gamed this out with Gaetz since the beginning. 15 rounds at the beginning of the year was some expert level negotiating after all.
I think we are perhaps watching the systematic destruction of the decepticons. What if Jim Jordan fails in spectacular fashion and gets voted off the island in 6 months time or sooner as well? If he exposes himself in the same way as McCarthy what happens to the Republican party then? Will people start to see just how disingenuous their representatives really are? Could this be a long term play?
Or do we just chalk this up to Trump either learning nothing in choosing his allies or just conceding this win to the Rino’s because he knows he won’t beat Jim Jordon head to head.
I personally think this is a longer term play.
No, I agree with your first premise. There was a reason that this vote took place when Nancy was out of town at DiFi’s funeral. There is something really off about that. It wasn’t that Nancy wouldn’t vote for Kevin…she was out of town. How did that happen?
Nancy could have cast a proxy vote. She didn’t for some reason
Even worse for poor Kevvy.
QAnon taught me not to believe in 5D chess anymore
QAnon is a joke.
This is how things have been playing out in many arenas. PDJT highlights an issue or person and then, if they fail, we the people get to see the failure, further advancing the Great Awakening.
Whether JJ is a great speaker or not doesn’t matter so much. It is too late for them (Establishment/Globalists/Marxists/Fascists). As masks drop (or are ripped off) the people see and awaken a little more. What we have to do is hold the line and stay strong on our principles. Karma will sort it all out.
That is the essence of the plan in which the Trusty Planners trust.
You can’t understate the significance of DJT going to D.C. and enforcing his choice. This is a power move that should shock them into compliance and may yield a more MAGA path forward. But, DJT has always dealt in reality, where now an illegitimate (D) Senate and WH require negotiation, of which he is a master.
Perhaps no more fake brinkmanship, neutered hearings and appeasement. But certainly seeding the ground for 2025!
Without Kelly and Mad Dog, we never would have know how bad it actually was.
MAGA!
Am reminded of the phrase from 2016, that President Trump knows how to own the downside; so suspect that aspect may be at play in this endorsement of Jim Jordan to become the next Speaker of the House.
This move may be a part of the Let Trump Be Trump energy working behind the scenes, this latest court trial has been a pretty good reminder of how successful, business-wise, dealmaker-wise, this man is.
It will then be up to Jim Jordan to produce or fall by the way on his own; won’t be able to blame PDJT for any failure on his part to deliver his promises.
Who would be better than Jim Jordan since there are doubts about him?
I wonder what would free Jordan to act in concert with his speeches. Reminds me of Trey Gowdy, etc
I agree. I don’t think Jordan is going to do anything and if rule is changed then we are struck with him. President Trump should have run as speaker for 60-100 days and showed them how to fight back. Weaponization and witch hunt will continue against president Trump and his family.
I wanted Jim Jordan, too.
Many do and it’s always best to think for yourself rather than being a sheep.
Jim Jordan will be just as bad as Kevin McCarthy. But what Matt Gaetz has shown us, what we’ve learned in the last few months, is that Congress, as an institution, is hopelessly corrupt and compromised. They’re always going to elect someone like John Boehner, or Paul Ryan, or Kevin McCarthy to be the speaker because the corrupt nature of the institution requires that type of person.
Congress is funded by lobbyist and special interests, and they get what they want. The speaker is the distributor of the special interest money, which all the other Congress critters want, so the position has to be filled by a corrupt person. They will never vote for an honest person, a partisan fighter like Matt Gaetz, because of the corrupt nature of the institution.
My understanding is that Jordan was being held back by McCarthy, probably to protect Pelosi. If that is actually true, then Jordan may be a really good speaker.
He needs to cut Ukraine funding to zero, investigate Biden(s), and investigate the CCP money flowing into ActBlue because apparently the majority of ActBlue money is Chinese and I bet the majority of Democrats know it.
Did not know that about ActBlue but it would make sense. Where did you hear/read this?
It’s a losing proposition for President Trump anyway—even “temporarily”. Don’t think for a second the RINOs wouldn’t vote him in just to torpedo him at a critical juncture, with the eager help of Dems of course. He brings any Bill to the floor that defunds the DOJ witch hunts, RINOs & DEMs will oust him for “obstruction of justice”. Any subpoenas, no matter how necessary, appropriate and just, that would be brought to bear to hold accountable those who weaponize government and engage in outrageous criminal conduct will be forever tainted as self-serving and obstructive. Every effort will be made to marginalize his ability to lead the House in order to create the illusion of an ineffective leader in over his head. The best he could hope for is to try to fully affect the procedural changes that Gaetz has been going on about this past week where McCarthy reneged, but he doesn’t need to be that guy. I’m glad it looks as though the The Donald will be heeding the famous words of Admiral Ackbar and plans to proceed accordingly.
In the end, you need the votes.
Period. Reality bites.
Sadly, must agree with Sundance.
President Trump still believes in the (obviously corrupt) system and is bringing a knife to a gun fight. Almost as if the bull in the China Shop has been tamed …
Sigh —
WhoWHERE is John Galt (as it could be Donald John Trump if he would suspenddisbelief)?I don’t disagree with the analysis of Jim Jordan. But what has hopefully changed is important: Jordan and every one else in the House (and hopefully one day the Senate) will know that if they follow the path of McCarthy and his predecessors, they are gone.
Perhaps most importantly that message will from now on be made clear to the donors – that these elected representatives must look out for the interests of the MAGA voter base to at least a meaningful degree. The donors will have no choice but to capitulate as their only other choice is to become Marxist Democrat donors.
I know this is overly optimistic.
You might not like it, but this is who Donald Trump is. These are the compromises he routinely makes. It’s why he still backs Lindsey Graham even though we all hate him. Trump is giving Jordan the opportunity to do the right thing, even though he probably has reservations about its likelihood.
Nevertheless, the ouster of McCarthy was a seismic event. The UniParty fractured under the pressure Gaetz put on it — the rage exhibited by the UniParty is evidence of it. Nancy Pelosi betrayed McCarthy because she’s lost power over her conference. McCarthy said “the institution has fallen today,” but what he meant was the grip the UniParty held over the institution had fallen. That’s why the speaker pro tempore kicked Pelosi and Hoyer out of their cozy offices as his first act of business.
Politics is the Art of the Possible (Otto von Bismark, Chancellor of Germany 1871-1890)
It was to be expected that the best possible outcome of the haphazard removal lies in damage control: The replacement of one pinhead to another nominally secures Speakers Office for the Republicans. As “they don’t have the votes” to implement MAGA program, muddling through will continue.
Much Ado About Nothing (William Shakespeare)
There is always that slight possibility–an agreement between Trump and Jordan, with Gaetz making Jordan stipulate similar to McCarthy–that makes this an exception to the rule that doing the same thing and expecting different results…
One thing for sure: This is mild stuff compared to what’s coming.
Why do you think Trump continues to support such individuals? Why not support Gaetz or Nunez? Is there a backroom deal to aid in his Presidential Campaign, like greater level of support from the Repub side of the Swamp?
It’s the only thing I can think of that makes sense.
Neither Gaetz nor Nunes would win.
I saw Nunes on Newsmax. He does not want the speaker position and if I recall he said he thought it was a bad move to remove Kevin at this time.
Jim Jordan Says Whether He Will Keep Motion To Vacate In Place
(1:09)
https://rumble.com/v3n5lcv-jim-jordan-says-whether-he-will-keep-motion-to-vacate-in-place.html
The perceived chaos doesn’t benefit anyone in the GOP, particularly the presidential candidates. Jordan may be the best alternative among those with a realistic chance to become Speaker. That doesn’t make Sundance wrong about him, though.
Be sure to attach that Motion to Vacate
This is similar o trump not knowing of telling the public the truth about the deadly jsb:
Trump should have taken this on, and that would have been a gutsy move. The so-called Republican House is a joke. We really have to wonder why we vote for the R party at all, if they are the controlled opposition always? Jordan is at best timid and at worst, compromised as SD has put it. In either case, useless.
In January 2021, President Donald J. Trump awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom to Jim Jordan for his previous years of outstanding service. I hope the next year tells if Jordan is worthy.
Byron Donalds endorses Jim Jordan…
It’s actually pretty simple.
A great President once said something like “The Democratic Party has moved so far Left they’ve left America”
Those who were on the right side but were still members of the Democratic Party and voted for President Reagan gradually filtered in to the Republican Party strengthening the ranks of RINO/Establishment.
It is that crowd that protects and grows the 4th Branch of government who repeatedly compromises with the Left who used to be slow walking us towards Communism – they are trotting now.
As Rush used to say, Trump is NOT an ideological Conservative anything. Rather as a very successful businessman he does what works, Which also means he’s his own worst enemy.
Our form of government is designed to slow-walk everything. Unfortunately there are not enough of us to tame the beast / 4th Branch.
Seems like we’ll have to hold our nose and go along. Trump/Gaetz 2024 for 12 years.
This is beginning to look like the story of Sisifas in Greek Methology. In any event, I think PDJT feels he can gain a little traction with Jordan given the small pool there is to draw from. While I’m not pleased with Jordan, I feel he’ll make a couple of modest accomplishments. We have to keep things in perspective. People like Bannon, who I like, tend to be bomb throwers and get everyone worked up, expecting spectacular results. This is like WWI, we have to grind it out until the election. Let’s hope we gain some modest ground with Jordan and keep plugging away. Booting McCarthy sent a message. The Uniparty responded by designating us as Domestic Terrorists. Hence, they know we’re in it for the long haul. Keep the faith!
Not pickin’ on anyone with my comment. But… I’m at a loss to understand how/what message was sent with the ousting of KM. Well let me re-phrase that. What positive message was sent by the repubs with the ousting of KM? I saw 8 repubs voting with a block of dems to effect the ousting. So the message sent was we need the dems to do our dirty work because we, the repubs only have a total of 8 folks onboard with turning this ship called America around. Pretty pitiful message.
the message that was sent is: that almost All of the republicans are corrupt & voted for the establishment status quo McCarthy; so apparently there are but 8 representatives worthy of representing the real American Citizens. Now we know which ones HAVE TO be replaced.
Thanks JJ… that is kinna what I was feeling as well.
Watching the sellout Republicans losing their minds was quite amusing. Newt whining like a petulant child. The gavel slamming Goon (I forgot his name) and Sean Swampity getting huffy. I for one don’t care in this case that MAGA Matt reached out to the Marxists. We wanted McCarthy out and we got it. Now let’s see what kind of mileage we get from Jordan. And one more thing: We’ve got the real deal in Gaetz. He’s everything the Meatball failed to be. I’d love to see him as Trump’s VP then run in 2028.
With all the American people are facing, the most outrage we’ve seen from the GOP representatives was against a representative that forced the issue that Kevin McCarthy was not doing enough for the American people.
Talk about sunlight!
I also have mixed feelings on impeaching Biden. He is a milestone around the democrats. The democrats should want him impeached to save their careers.
I am also conflicted on that for the same reason.
I’m not sure whether impeaching Biden clears the runway for Newsom, or makes it harder for him. Imagine trying to displace the (historic! brave!) first woman President who is also black. And, awful as Cackles is, she’ll be on a new honeymoon period.
The GOP reps don’t seem to be able to do a kindergartener’s version of investigation.
Impeach Chris Wray. Impeach Merrick Garland. Impeach Mayorkas. They all have failed utterly at their jobs and are beasts of the weaponized government.
Those would actually affect some positive changes to benefit Americans.
Without them, Biden becomes toothless Joe.
Slash funding to all weaponized parts of the government.
That debt ceiling deal was pure insanity by design. The GOP knew exactly what they were doing.
Jordan will likely be far better than McCarthy and I prefer him over Scalise or Elise Stefanik who were the other top contenders. Unfortunately the best ones could never win the nomination so we have to deal with that. Personally I would prefer Andy Biggs but he would never would win enough votes from the swamp rats.
Andy Biggs was who I thought of first, from the sitting members of Congress. He is clearly outraged by events happening in this country, but nearly always presents himself clearly and rationally, with just the right amount of urgency and rhetoric. He is also on the front-line of the immigration battle – which is the existential fight of our lives.
What about Kash Patel as Speaker? He would fight for full investigations
Jim has signaled, Sundance is correct, the can kicking will continue…
1%….HAHAHHA Pathetic
Speaking for yourself, again?
(Swear words)
I see what he’s saying, take the unappealing CR that cuts spending by 1%, and balance it against desirable policy changes. You know, the thing that should have happened with the debt ceiling, but guys with soft hands and skinny jeans like McHenry gave away. Will Jordan effectively use that as leverage to get an even trade, let alone one in our favor? Not unless he’s assembling a team to really play hard ball.
Crap.
I smell a rat
I say again, how do we tell the difference between someone compromised and someone held captive?
Captive is Joe Biden, compromised is all of Congress!
I’m getting tired of winning.
We will know quickly if Sundance is correct about Jordan. There will be no excuse for not serving subpoenas, vote on term limits, etc.
I left a message on Matt Gaetz’s Congressional line suggesting he offer a rebuttal to Biden’s speech supporting Ukraine similar to what they do for the Stae of the Union Address.I hope he does it. Gaetz is an excellent orator.