President Trump is scheduled to meet with Republican House Conference leadership on Tuesday next week. According to Congressman Troy Nehls, President Trump is going to recommend and endorse Ohio Representative Jim Jordan for the position:
Obviously, I do not personally like this idea, as I think it’s just another bondo and spray paint application upon the Republican wing of the UniParty. However, oddly enough when John Boehner stepped down, I wanted to see Jim Jordan instead of Paul Ryan. Goes to show how rapidly the machinery in DC can compromise someone.
Ukraine will get funded. Jordan will be the arbiter of which DC inhabitants will be protected from subpoenas; the House will change the rules to protect him. The door nameplates change, and everyone goes back to business as usual. Meh, I wonder who will be placed as chair of the Judiciary Committee and Weaponization Committee?
the meatball must be kicking himself in the ass about now
he coulda very easily become speaker had he stayed in the house
now, politically, he’s dead meat
That is true – Don’t think he reacted to events did he ? – he had his campaign plans mapped out for the week – appearances etc – needed to get back with his team and do the analysis before he definitively spoke about it ?AND events passed him by …. again ?
Thing is, nobody cares who Ron DeSantis wants for speaker
He couldn’t have. Because, you see, at his root Meatball is a follower, not a leader. Not speaker material, not presidential material, only with Trump’s backing did he even manage to become a Governor
Guaranteed Trump made a deal so let’s do a wait and see.
LMAO
I agree!
From my perspective (and researching decades on Trump deal-making), it’s not a good idea to assume anything where Donald J. Trump is concerned.
We will see what happens and how it all plays out at the very end, (which could take quite a while).
Agreed.
I’m with Dan Bongino on this concept: Advance the football. It isn’t always the greatest player who leads a team to victory. It’s the man who advances the football. They are ALL turds in a giant punch bowl. None of them are to be trusted. But, if we can get a man or woman who advances the towards the goal of restoring liberty, then that’s the person. When they aren’t advancing towards the goal, then they are done and replaced. That is what Gaetz did. Like a coach who sees his quarterback just isn’t getting it done, it’s time to go to the bench and hope that the backup has prepared to step in and step up.
It ain’t right, but that’s what we have to work with. Elections matter, and we need to make sure they count by holding those turds responsible for their actions.
Greatly said!
Trouble is if you stir up the punch bowl the individual turds disappear and you are left with a big bowl of sewage! This is the Republican Party right now.
A disgusting but true analogy
Yup I agree, lets not waste too much time on it either!
The House is compromised, all of them in one way or the other.
Maybe, JUST maybe, Jim Jordan can find his moral compass again,
And I pray, his virtue, finds it’s way back to him.
With Kevin, none of that would be possible.
Yes, and in other news, Nancy Pelosi seeks to get right with her faith, and renounces all the sins of her past…
Come on, these people
almostnever reform. Ever. Finding his moral compass would require that he had ever possessed one. Call me suspicious, but Jordan was a loyal lieutenant to McCarthy. Not buying it.I will admit that I believe every pet I’ve owned has a better chance of spontaneously getting pregnant after their spaying and neutering before Jim Jordan finds a true good moral compass and not the evil compass he has followed for a decade or more.
Prove me wrong, please, but I wrote Jim all mouth Jordan off as a Criminally Corrupt Deep Stater when he let Hillary go after the Benghazi Show at the DC KABUKI Theater.
I will forgive Jim after he hangs for his part in the crimes against the Constitution of the USA.
“I am the most peaceable of men. All I ask is a humble cottage with a thatched roof, a good bed, good food, fresh milk and butter, flowers before my window and a few fine trees at my door; and if the dear Lord wants to make my happiness complete, he will grant me the joy of seeing some six or seven of my enemies hanging from those trees. Before their death I shall forgive them all the wrongs they did me in their lifetime. One must forgive one’s enemies – but not before they have been hanged.” .” – Heinrich Heine
Hope springs eternal.
Excellent comment!
I agree with this! Right now with the Speaker, you are basically looking for the LESSER OF ALL THE EVILS! That may be Jordan, he seems much less slimey than McCarthy!!!
I’m not sure we’ll get another fair election. Ever.
Toss the turd filled punch bowl and replace it with a corruption turd free clean one even if it’s plain and ordinary like the plebs they hate so much.
Too many turds, too few punch bowls …
No matter how many times you flush one turd floats back into the bowl.
Well said.
But some turds are bigger and stinkier than others …
Kind of get what you say but isn’t a football field 100 yards long? It seems like this football field we are on runs to the end of the horizon and then some……heavy sigh!
“That is what Gaetz did. Like a coach who sees his quarterback just isn’t getting it done”
Gaetz was the coach who realized his QB was on the other team’s roster. Gaetz may be the closest to
thing to a free agent we have up there.
Jordan is a virtue-signalling UniPartyist. I still don’t get why Trump got between Georgia voters and Graham when they refused to let Ole Backstabber speak in his own neighborhood a few months ago. You know they’re snakes. Quit giving them free rides.
Until Jordan says………
I fully embrace and will drive the MAGA agenda forward which focuses on serving Americans first, then he is just another McConnell, Graham and McCarthy.
Amen to that!
This is and has always been the conservative Americans problem. You want 100% or you give 0%. Demokkrats vote demo no matter what. Take what you can get and keep driving.
Disagree………..
Actions speak louder than words.
Let’s see what happens.
By their fruits ye shall know them…
And Chip Roy isn’t so chipper. He’s not MAGA; instead, he’s RINO.
G-Pol
October 6, 2023 10:12 am
DeSantis Backer Chip Roy Tells MAGA ‘F***ers’ to ‘Kiss My A**’ During Meltdown Comparing Himself to D-Day Soldier
https://thenationalpulse.com/2023/10/04/watch-desantis-backer-chip-roy-tells-maga-fers-to-kiss-my-a-during-meltdown-comparing-himself-to-d-day-soldier/
Something about Roy never sat right with me. The way he talked tough and puffed his chest out about not voting for McCarthy during the Speakership vote one day, then went and voted for him the next
Agree.
PDJT also supported McCarthy. There are not many choices, and many are tainted.
It is nasty out there.
Gaetz name has been tossed around for Judiciary Committee and Weaponization Committee
If Jordan places members of the Freedom Caucus into positions of power, Conservatives will suddenly find themselves with a lot more power going forward.
Don’t bet on it.
I won’t (gambling has never had any fascination for me).
But I’ll pray for it.
I could turn into showergate, showergate, showergate!
I’m glad that we have you here on CTH who knows what was discussed behind closed doors with Jordan, Trump, and Gaetz.//
I wish you would post notes from their conversations with what demands, promises, and threats were offered to get the endorsement.
Yes and Gaetz will probably make it part of the deal to get Jordan in as Speaker.
Also, Gaetz will continue the requirement that the motion to vacate is always on the table.
Again, it’s all on Gaetz.
I am liking him more and more and will donate directly to him.
I think he deserves it as a reward for what he’s done so far, and because it will help him keep his resolve to refuse all PAC money. He stated again on one of the podcasts in the last few days that he does not accept it – he’s probably the only one who doesn’t, from what I can see.
Walking the MAGA walk so far!
I will donate directly to Gaetz too. The RINOs are attacking him big time. They’re bringing up vile accusations from the past. (Sen Markwayne Mullins from OK). He needs us small donors.
Agree on Gaetz, and by all means, let’s keep the motion to vacate! The speaker should serve at the pleasure of the House members. No more imperial speakers.
Jordan needs to stop funding Ukraine. There is an opportunity now to start denying them funding and let this war die on its own. Until we do so, the USA is provoking WW III.
Probably won’t happen but we can hope. This is what we have to work with.
You could be right. My thinking is they have been planning this out for some time now. We first heard about it when they were electing KM. So maybe they were planting a seed? or maybe they didn’t have the votes to carry it through. This time… maybe they do have the votes.
Gaetz hopefully looks like the real deal. But all the media and the swamp’s talking points is he’s a crazed Nazi that is looking to destroy the system.
We can only hope they’re correct.
LOL a “crazed Nazi” would be one of the myriad UniParty vermin infesting DC…
The GOPe will NEVER allow that.
Perhaps Jack Smith will be defunded now. Looks better if Jordan does it instead of Trump being speaker and doing it himself.
I kind of like the idea of President Trump doing it…I fear no one else will, except perhaps Gaetz .
I think we’re well past the point of caring about how things ‘look’
Besides, from what I understand, were Trump to become Speaker, the DOJ wouldn’t be able to target him?
Trumps problem was and may still be is that he is like a moth and gravitating towards the people with the brightest spotlight on them at that moment to absorb some of the heat.
The problem with that is he fails to recognize that they are nearing a bug zapper together.
You so underestimate Donald J. Trump.
Trump is human and his choice of talent is what I believe is his biggest weakness. That is not underestimating him. That is recognizing his area of concern and hoping he will be better as our next President.
You are free to overestimate Donald J. Trump and be happy.
I choose reality. And here is a list of hiring failures he has made in hopes that he will course correct. Jim Jordon is not a course correction from my perspective. Tell me how these are were good choices?
Mike Pence
John Bolton
James Mattis
John Kelly
Omarosa Manigault Newman
Stephanie Grisham
H.R. McMaster
Anthony Scaramucci
Nikki Haley
Michael Cohen
Rex Tillerson
Deborah Birx
Anthony Fauci
And we can’t forget a couple of the wasted 2018 Governors
Ronald DeSantos
Brian Kemp
The more things change, the more they remain the same……This part of Trump is what makes me nervous for his second term. If we see it, I’m sure he does too. Yet, it’s as if homework is not done by those around him. I can’t blame him too much now because of all of the legal nonsense around him. But he has to be careful who he puts his name on. He runs a risk of putting people on his second term who will back stab him AGAIN. It’s a pit of nothing but vipers. Within it may be one or two mongoose, it’s hard to see because the cot dang pit is so full.
I think Trump knows exactly what he is doing..he has to go forward with players he has available… let’s give him a chance.. right now Trump is our ONLY warrior capable of doing the job.. 😀👍
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treason by MSM
Yes, the #EneMedia is guilty of treason as the propaganda piece of the coup and coconspirators.
They are all guilty as sin and need to face the noose for their efforts to destroy this country and enslave it’s citizens.
Seriously, people are quick to say “nope! Wrong!” What they never says is who they would approve of. The likely answer is NONE of them. So after you realize you’re simply screaming at the sky, you have to get behind someone who, at the very least, might actually help… maybe. You never have to own the choice as if it were your preference. You’ve already established that he’s not.
But still… how can we tell the difference between a captive and a corrupted? Back when Dorsey was testifying before Congress and begging for regulation, I saw he was begging for help. He didn’t want to be the target for all of the attacks when he really wasn’t running the company. Even Elon Musk is barely in charge there.
Can you really tell the difference between a captive of the deep state and a corrupt/compromised individual?
Some might say “there is no difference!” There is. Under the right circumstances a captured person will strike at his captors when given the opportunity. A corrupted person will not… not likely anyway.
Consider how long it took before Trump announced “the gloves are off.” Trump was captive. He was not corrupted or compromised.
We need to be careful of assigning blame when we STILL don’t know all of the everyone who is making this happen. But for a fighter to “prove he’s not corrupt” by being removed and rendered unable to fight? Especially when there are no viable alternatives?
Speaks and sounds like uncorked cold anger and rage.
Very good point!
We know that it’s not all $$, because we do know some of the representatives and Senators have either been threatened or attacked physically (Scalise) . We just don’t know for sure in all cases which ones and how.
Jordan himself was threatened with a ridiculous accusation about wrestling. That should definitely not be enough for a surrender, because Gaetz was put through the wringer with an equally bogus charge, and fought it into oblivion.
But maybe Jordan thought at the time it was better to let the sleeping dog lie… and if PDJT made a deal with him for support, you never know. A girl can dream.
I will wait and see. Sundance is usually right so it might be rinse and repeat.
Only thing for sure is that we will know the score even more quickly this time – thanks to Gaetz.
Sunlight is slow but relentless.
Remember too, Jordan’s nephew was killed in a car accident early on in his tenure, if I remember correctly.
Kemp’s daughter’s boyfriend was killed in a car accident.
We don’t really know what was orchestrated by an enemy vs. what was not.
Gym Jordan’s nephew was apparently executed in that “car accident”, too – the question is, is he the kind of guy who plots against his tormentors?
TRUMP or Gaetz.
I like those two –for everything!
*Unfortunately, everyone else keeps weenie-ing out of being brave, true, and honest!
Then you missed me actually post a couple of times if Not TRUMP for Speaker of the House, then I nominated Jos Dan Gorman from Intellectual Froglegs so we have at least one (1) person in Congress with a lick of sense as none of them in the decades so far has had any and we need a change.
Notice my recommendations will come from the people and not the #SWAMP that waits to hang for it’s compounded treason and crimes against the Constitution and humanity.
“Ye shall know them by their fruits.”
So let’s examine Jordan’s past voting history. He votes with Trump an average of 91 percent of the time. BUT he opposed Trump on mostly all the right things…..
And for an encore….
“Jordan, a founding member of the hardline conservative Freedom Caucus, has voted against nearly all bills offering assistance to Ukraine since the Russian invasion began in February 2022, though he did back an early 2022 proposal to send some equipment to Kyiv as part of a lend-lease deal.”
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-trump-score/jim-jordan/
Wait, what? When did PDJT ever support the TPP?
The link shows you the issues where they parted ways. My list above doesn’t prove where they differed. It only shows that Jordan voted correctly on those issues, some of which Trump agreed with and some Trump didn’t.
He didn’t.
That was just a list of “accomplishments” –both good and bad.
Trump literally made striking down TPP a cornerstone of his 2016 campaign. Good thing too, because the copyright provisions alone were absolutely draconian
Thanks, that was extremely important, friend!
You forgot, played Kabuki Theater in DC for the Benghazi show with Hillary.
In his part he played a hard liner that was weak and pathetic as he could not even fulfil the questioning as he protected Hillary from the people they robbed, murdered, and lied about en masse.
So, by that fruit, Jim all mouth Jordan is a traitor and another corrupt DC professional liar in their professional liars’ club.
“I’m not upset that you lied to me, I’m upset that from now on I can’t believe you.” – Friedrich Nietzsche
You just hate Jordan because he’s no longer going to send our money to your Nazi buddies in Ukraine.
OK.
You are clearly a tool.
You may be one of the most foolish people to date, which is an extremely high complement for the intellectually lazy.
Clearly a Collectivist/Leftist that throws out names and calls everyone NAZI like a little socialist tool that doesn’t realize, BECAUSE THEY ARE FOOLS, they are the real NAZIs and still pushing a failed ideology of death and destruction.
Now go away and Get Behind Me Satan!
You cannot reform a corrupt system by participating in it.
The patient has cancer, and the solution is to get him some new shoes.
The great benefit of all of this is it puts to lie everything we’ve been told and promised. And, the speed with which things are falling apart is increasing. Impeachments used to be rare. Now they’re common. Indicting a former POTUS? Unheard of, but now 4x in a few months. 15 votes for a speaker who lasted 9 months. The anointed candidate has already rebooted his campaign twice and is losing by 50pts and it’s not even November.
The Government Party is having more and more trouble keeping all the plates spinning.
For the GOP in the House, they’re out of plates. Nobody believes the charade. All the usual tricks aren’t working and the public – especially GOP base voters – can clearly see that the GOP has absolutely no intention of doing anything useful.
The status quo is breaking down. As it does, the utility of the GOP to maintain the illusion of choice goes away. By removing consent, Gaetz has thrown the Government Party into apoplectic fits.
If Jordan is an honest person compromised in some way, the collapse of the status quo works to his advantage. Just like Trump not quitting when indicted (which is a Government Party RULE), Jordan as Speaker can similarly ignore the usual status quo attacks and do the right thing.
If he is not, we’re no worse off. But the beauty is that we will know within about 37 days when the CR runs out and Ukraine funding either happens or it doesn’t.
They can’t hide…because we’ve removed our consent.
That’s why they’re so angry. There are few things more infuriating to a liar than people calling “bullshit” and you get caught in that lie.
Hokkoda, you cut through to the heart of the matter, clear-eyed and with common sense. I find that calming.
If you were my next-door neighbor I would invite you over for coffee, pick your brain, and listen to you speak.
I appreciate the sentiment. Thank you.
My apologies in advance for the length of this comment but I believe this topic deserves a lengthy analysis. I fear Jordan is simply then next place holder in a succession of failed R House Speakers because of the system he’s been thrust into. I had a supreme sense of hope when a Church style commission was announced only to have that hope crushed by the incompetence of Kevin McCarthy. The only way anything positive is going to come out of a Republican led House is to return the body to a true oversight role over the intelligence agencies which use their raw power to manipulate members into doing their bidding, most notably continually funding the expansion of the deep-state.
I think its going to take someone like Jordan to leverage the soft flank of the Rino’s against the lobbyists and deep state bad actors. A good step will be to subpoena Bill Barr and put him on the record regarding the coverup of the 1023 and Bobulinski interviews his DOJ executed during the run up to the 2020 election.
It has become increasingly clear our elected representatives no longer serve us and until such time as the deep state and lobbyists are put in check nothing will change. In DC Money is oxygen, and the continual passage of CR’s and Omnibus bills is nothing more than a sign of just how corrupted the entire system has become as lobbyists buy and deep state spooks intimidate members into doing their bidding. We must break this circle of destruction, the survival of America depends on it.
I hope Jordan has the stones to put these people on blast, but with every passing year and every passing failure to hold the bureaucracy accountable, my hope is waning.
Well said, Unfettered Reason. Well said.
A good start. The question is whether he can get enough votes to be elected Speaker of the House in a Congress that is 60-70% Government Party. This statement only gets him about 90 votes for Speaker.
Yeah, but what is his stance today and again tomorrow after he’s visited by the Lobbyist’s bagman?
…….untill someone blackmail him ???????
Jim Jordan is a solid NO on more taxpayer cash for Ukraine.
Sorry Jim, but the NUMBER 1 (#1) thing on most people’s minds is not Ukraine or the Border, but the treasonous government thugs in need of hangings.
Disagree.
Very high on my list.
Billions for Ukraine needs to stop.
American taxpayers are struggling, stop the theft.
And
Good luck with the hangings…
Yes, and remove the corrupt fraudulent unconstitutional creatures in this Constitutional Republic and those other issues fade away under the lawful restoration of laws and non-traitor ‘representatives”.
“remove the corrupt fraudulent unconstitutional creatures”
Wishing you all the best with your efforts..
Ending the theft of tax payer monies sent to NAZIs in Ukraine is but one vote away.
lol, So isn’t restoring the Constitution.
Jordan is a slug. In spite of what Trump has endured, he’s still is a trusting man, too trusting.
Listening to Kuhner on WRKO at the moment, the show is about this topic.
So who do you think should be Speaker?
So this is your little Bolshevik routine? Ask each dissenter to put up their own nomination?
Maybe you are right. Maybe nothing can get done until the Bolsheviks are destroyed completely.
You’re just the paid thugs of the “Bolsheviks.” You’re not fooling anybody….
The muscle for (Jewish) Nuland’s $5 billion coup was Oleh Tyahnybok’s neo-Nazi Svoboda Party and the shadowy new Right Sector militia. During her leaked phone call, Nuland referred to Tyahnybok as one of the “big three” opposition leaders on the outside who could help the U.S.-backed Prime Minister Yatsenyuk on the inside. This is the same Tyanhnybok who once delivered a speech applauding Ukrainians for fighting Jews and “other scum” during World War II.
https://www.salon.com/2021/01/19/who-is-victoria-nuland-a-really-bad-idea-as-a-key-player-in-bidens-foreign-policy-team/
Why shouldn’t we expect people throwing mud to offer up their preferred candidate? I’m as cynical about Jordan as they come, but if he is being controlled by the Government Party that means he can be controlled by us. Control is control. It’s all in how you carry things out. McCarthy is out as Speaker because he made promises and then refused to keep them. That’s really how this should work, and that is why both sides of the Government Party are having fits. They don’t “do” accountability.
They could put Big Bird in there for Speaker and all that would matter is whether Big Bird carries out our agenda. If he does, then I’m all for Big Bird.
“Why shouldn’t we expect people throwing mud to offer up their preferred candidate?”
Absolutely agree.
Its entirely reasonable to ask whom you would suggest.
You have made disparaging remarks re PDJT and his endorsements.
How would you improve on current suggestions?
Yep. We have plenty of people around us willing to say everyone is a slug, but very few offering up their alternative. What the commenter is missing is the “trust but verify” aspect of selecting leaders. They’ve all got something wrong with them. If they betray us, we remove them. That’s the benefit of what Gaetz did – it’s no longer a threat, it’s a promise.
Somebody earlier posted a pretty decent list of objectives for the new Speaker, including killing Ukraine funding, increasing border enforcement and deportations, defunding the DOJ persecutions of Trump, a boat-load of televised/public subpoenas and testimonies, and defunding the FBI. You hand any wanna-be Speaker that list and if they don’t carry it out, you remove that person and move on to the next one.
They’re not going to do this of their own free will. And it’s wrong to just decide everyone who is not you is the enemy. That’s how the Reign of Terror happened in France when they started executing people deemed not sufficiently virtuous to the revolution.
IMO this endorsement by Trump seals the deal for Jordan. This leaves him no excuse for inaction going forward. The spot light on Jordan to produce will be intense. His public reaction to this endorsement will be quite telling.
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As Speaker, Jordan would have protection and powers he does not have as a rank-and-file Congressman. Somebody trying to blackmail you? Gosh, it’s a shame you got that subpoena and now how to testify on TV. Been asking for subpoenas that get blocked by Paul Ryan/Kevin McCarthy? Where’s my pen?! Family being threatened? Let me introduce you to the Secret Service.
We all know these hearings last summer were a charade. But what happens if the slave becomes free?
Worst case, we’re no worse off than we were a week ago, and we’re all the wiser for it.
I know you try to see things as they are and not as they should be, but is there ever any good news? Anyone that you do trust, other than Trump? Anyone good up there AT ALL?
I’m trying to be a good Christian and there is hope in that, but hearing that just about everyone up there is compromised and a turncoat gets to you after awhile.
I know, I know, “Life is tough. Get a helmet.”
It doesn’t get to me…because it makes sense.
But – there’s always the next corner to turn around.
I’m still basking in the glow of the removal of McCarthy. Small steps.
Sounds to me like you don’t need a helmet because you’ve already acquired a shield. Peace my friend.
President Trump recognizes what those criticizing him may not.
Basic Math — there is zero mathematical chance of any America First candidate being elected Speaker.
The Full House votes for the next Speaker –dems vote too .
We have only 8-20 true America First representatives out of 221 republicans. The winner needs a minimum of 218 votes.
Uniparty/Never-Trump/Anti-MAGA republicans in the House greatly outnumber the 8-20 America First members:
In the voting for Speaker, all the democrats will vote against any candidate we’d like,
The majority of republicans, likely up to 210 will vote against any America First candidate
America First members are few
Math:
Basic Math. President Trump knows this.
We need to be educated on the reality on the ground before fantasizing about options that cannot get the 218 votes –and before kneecapping President Trump for dealing with the reality on the ground.
Do you really want to see more people dying from corruption within the government? I am entitled to talk on this subject. And, believe me. I would prefer to check out now than see one more soldier sent outside our country without a very good reason. As for the FBI, DOJ, CDC. We are better off without them.
True, but disruption and chaos are a wonderful thing. They more votes they have to cast, the easier it is to smoke them out.
We’re not going to win by playing within the confines of the status quo…for all the math reasons you cite.
Removing the Speaker was a disruptive event. Break the status quo and pull back the curtain hiding the machine. There’s a reason why so many people in the Government Party – from Hannity to Hillary – are freaking out.
Agree, as I often due with your comments
Ousting McCarthy was a magnificent win.
McCarthy apparently had been promised by Pelosi back in January that the democrats would back him against any vote to vacate. Gaetz didn’t know going into the vote to vacate which way the democrat voting block would go. McCarthy was confident he’d survive due to Pelosi’s prior promise to protect him —but then then surprise, the dems voted against McCarthy in the end (Reminds me of the snake story) Probably why they kicked Pelosi out of her hideaway office.
And Gaetz et al sure did smoke out a lot of conservative pundits! (not referring to Hannity and Levin, we already knew who Fox is) but the reaction to McCarthy ouster revealed a lot of others as controlled voices. A good week.
My above comment on the voting math is not about opinion or strategy. Knowing the voting math is a starting point for strategy.
I think your math post was really about accepting the reality of the situation. We have allowed the mindset of “but the Democrats will win!” to infect us to the point that we stopped caring what the GOP accomplished as long as Team Red won the election. Then we got two Bush terms and a Boehner/Ryan/McCarthy/McConnell Congress and they all finked on us. That is a lot of Congressional members to roll back.
The math is why I think it is completely pointless to try and take over the GOP. It’s like a Money Pit house…no matter how much you put into it, the house will always have serious structural problems. Tear it down and start over.
I’ll be interested to see if Jordan can get the votes, and if he does, whether the structures change. Do the committee chairs get new marching orders? Do the subpoenas and impeachments happen? Does Ukraine get funded? Does DOJ and FBI get defunded?
The math that matters now is CR countdown clock that is at T-39 days. McCarthy is gone because of the drug deals that led to the CR. ANY Republican candidate for Speaker understands they’ll be in the job 39 days if they pull that garbage again.
You never quite know how blowing up the status quo will change things. Their response to Trump was to go even more totalitarian.
You make some good points, viewing this from outside.
Initially, I was furious at a few America First Reps who did not vote to oust McCarthy.
Then, I began to think more strategically. What were the minimum number of America First reps needed to oust McCarthy if they had all the Dems?
Could they keep those America First reps whose seats are iffy out of the fray?
Could keeping the next speaker candidate out of the line of fire and voting with RINOs give that candidate standing with the RInOS whose votes he is going to need to get elected?
Could Trump weighing in that he is open to the speakership move RINOs to that speaker candidate?
Who knows what happens behind the scenes.
Or maybe they are all compromised RINOS and Trump has a lousy roster to choose from. You could drive yourself crazy guessing.
I’m going to do a lot of praying.
Right now the pot to watch is the house.
How they vote may make or break them at the polls.
Jimbo’s PAC production was pretty feeble. Expect more emails.
I understand your point. But, I prefer to see the government remaining shutdown than allow the Biden administration to move forward with the destruction of our country.
Force, Binden to stop further destruction of the country!!
I don’t want to see more payoffs. I don’t want to see the border get worse or one more EO issued. It is hard to send an IRS agent out if you can’t pay them or U.S. troops sent to Ukraine without supplies, etc.
President Trump made a major mistake!!
Its a sure bet that President Trump never makes a decision without facts. Has he been lied to? Often. Been backstabbed? A great deal but he continues to do his best. Jordan has done some amazing work. Why did he stop? Don’t know. Hope he can and will turn himself back to where he’d been. With this power, perhaps he shall. When all you have to pick from is a basket of rotten apples, you just try to get the one that still seems to have a little good fruit left. God bless President Trump. May the Holy Spirit lead him to the right person.
It never ceases to amaze me what lengths this group will go to excuse the Trumpster’s failures. Has Sundance ever called him out on his love affair with Fauci and the vax??
No, and there hasn’t been much discussion abut his dismissal of a “heartbeat bill” re: abortion in his last mainstream news interview.
poppycock
Nobody cares if you want to blame Trump. Blame him all you care to.
But watch, now you’re going to try to sell us on St. DeSantis.
Listless Vessel’s support group is in the basement beside camp stretch pants and lifted junior sized cowboy boots.
Is the you Pierre Delecto? aka Mittens the mealy mouthed liar from Utah Romney the traitor of God and Country.
Guess you’ve never acted on bad information, had to put your trust in an untrustworthy person or faced a time when you read daily of people dying in horrible virus ways and someone gives you a path (or you’re led to believe he has) to save lives. Probably not on some of them but President Trump has. If you knew our president, you’d know he doesn’t want one person to die if he can stop it. He said his hardest job was to inform a family member of a soldier’s death or to meet that/those bodies flown home. You don’t know his compassion for life, or you’d not question his reasoning during the crisis.
I’m wondering something else…
Will the skinny DementoRat minority plus the GopE (10 or so?) get together to deny PDJT even the interim Speakership? That seems like a likely move to me…
neverTrumpers have a hard time seeing past their Pinnochio noses after all…
I’m disappointed in Jim Jordan. But he did endorse Trump immediately before anyone else this time around. So, he is loyal to Trump.
I have a friend who has a business and has been in business her entire life. I was complaining about Trump and the way he hires people and then just lets them do what they want. She said that’s what a business CEO does; they hire the best and then trust them to do their job. Can’t do that in politics I guess.
I cannot pretend: disappointed. But I am not in president Trump shoes.
I’d rather see Byron Rounds as Speaker. That would have been a real curve ball to the racists on both sides. Byron is more than qualified.
Byron Donalds?
We have to stop playing this game by the Democrats’ rules because all we’re doing is validating that the only really trustworthy people are black because they immunize us against attacks of “racism”. Once you agree that being called a racist is bad, you’ve lost, because you’ve accepted a core tenet of the Democrat religion.
Right? Because you can’t out-Socialist the Socialists.
I think Trump endorses knowing each of those he endorses are compromised or corrupt (as he did with McCarthy). This endorsement gives Jordan an opportunity to either commit political suicide by showing his Uniparty allegiance or join MAGA. I hope Sundance is wrong on this one!
Meh, I wonder who will be placed as chair of the Judiciary Committee and Weaponization Committee?
Won’t be Matt Gaetz I’ll wager !
I was expecting President Trump to endorse Jordan, but I was hoping he wouldn’t. I was actually hoping that he wouldn’t publicly endorse anyone.
We never learn, do we?
Sunlight and Truth, keep it coming Lord!
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Watch the video below and and substitute, Sunlight and Truth for “More Cowbell”.
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Or just watch the video and smile.
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Many blessing to all on this fine day.
It didn’t take long for the exposure to all the people the rat scumbag McCarthy is and was. Now…Jordan has the same opportunity to prove he is with us…or against us! He’s front and center now….and we see what’s going on. He will not be able to hide. Let’s see if he sopeonas Hunter Biden….and let’s see if he releases the J6 tapes! What say you Mr. Jordan? Release those tapes…prove you are with us….or show us you are not!
So who would you pick as Speaker?
The issue with some folks on this site is that reality never seems to enter thought as their comments are written.
ALL the folks in the kabuki theater of DC have some level of flaws, including our heroes and some of the good guys.
Your criticism rings quite hollow since you fail to support your criticism by naming your (implied superior) choice of Speaker….
Since President Trump has demonstrated a multi-dimensional strategy in every move he makes, I trust him on this choice since
(a) I cannot name a better choice since I truly don’t know the relative internal favorability / electability of anyone within that congressional body; and
(b) with his business deal negotiation background, President Trump rarely shoots from the hip in these matters but seems to look at appointments from an immediate (rather than long term) viewpoint – “how can this person help advance America First policies in the immediate future”.
We all can argue all day long on this but President Trump’s perspective is all that matters in the end when he’s the policy leader whose objectives rely on his choices.
Do you have any other tactic? Because this one is oh so tired, not to mention predictable.
Yep … Jim Jordon is not the warrior we all thought he was a few years ago.
Got news for folks … they ALL, including our heroes, have some degree of flaws and this once again is another best of the worst choices that has to be made.
The tale will come when President Trump re-enters the White House and we see the size deal making maneuver space that exists between President Trump and Speaker Jordon (if speaker Jordon survives 2024).
Would people rather have someone beholden to the Tech industry or to Nancy Pelosi and her evil cabal?
That is a trick question, because government (Nancy Pelosi+++) protects and empowers the Tech industries and the rest with threat of government force and monopolies.
They are one and the same until the Constitution is restored.
The absence of a coherent political plan, or any plan, by Trump to counter the metastasizing police state of the Uniparty, is the bring down of his candidacy. Speeches are not a plan.
He’s been working the same plan for the last ten years. I’m surprised you still haven’t figured it out yet.
For President Trump’s detailed plan please visit DonaldJTrump.com –for the text and released video.
Erroneous
HEY Jordan!
RELEASE the Jan6 video!
Only the SOTH has the final authority.
We are forgetting a First Principle of analysis. That is:
There are no such things as contradictions. When you think you see a contradiction, one of your underlying assumptions is false.
There is never going to be a perfect person in House of Reps or Senate because they are PAID BY LOBBYISTS. Especially those on committees and have name recognition , they are paid to do the bidding of the corporate master. How do we compete with lobbyists? If you want to see the power and money of lobbyists go to Open Secrets.org. Could we become the largest organized lobbying group in the US and start sending large amounts to select politicians that adhere to MAGA?
Too damn bad that you are so blind that you continue to underestimate President Donald J. Trump.
Perhaps you are just like all the other Never-Trumpers?
When will Jordan provide his agenda with specifics ? No more fast talk or letters. ACTIONS speak louder than words.
maybe This has been posted but it seems that Desantis has received a a big endorsement by some Gen and
maybe more than one , only caught the tail end of his speech, which lately I try to avoid at all costs.
Yesterday Newsmax polls said that if anything happened to P.T over 40 percent of people who now support P.T would change their vote and most of them would go to Desantis but just cant figure out why anyone would trust this guy .
I think Jim Jordan would be better than almost 90% of the Repugs in the House of Representatives. He is as close to being MAGA as can ever be elected Speaker by the rest of the Repugs. Matt Gaetz would be the best Speaker but 5 Repug votes would be all that it would take to keep him out of the job.
The facts are, zero Democraps have ever voted for a Repug for Speaker and it would take 5 of 221 Repugs voting against any nominee to defeat them. MAGA has about 25 of the 221 who would ever vote for Gaetz. Jordan burns the candle from both ends and would at least have a chance to get most of the MAGA Repugs to vote for him.
If no Repug can get elected, nothing will get done in the House, period. I don’t know whether that would be a good or a bad thing, but that is the facts we are facing. One mistake and the Communist Minority leader of the House would get elected. Then we will be hosed down forever.
I reluctantly support Jim Jordan as one of only a few possible replacements for McCarthy who would be better for us if he became the Speaker. You have to have 218 votes to win on any vote in the House.
I am going to wait and see what promises were made by Jordan in order to get the endorsement and support of Team MAGA in the House and what promises were DEMANDED OF HIM by Gaetz and PDJT.
It may be that becoming SOTH frees Jordan from whomever was controlling him. Maybe as Team MAGA gets stronger and stronger that lessens the stranglehold that the RINOs have over the republican caucus.
How do you eat a RINO elephant? One bite at a time. I’ll wait and see.
Just Now Reading Truth and PDJT’s unequivocal endorsement of Jordan for Speaker . I just hope Jordan shows some genuine MAGA type gratitude ( turned into action ?) to PDJT who has consistently backed him along the way – And not roll over / fold like cheap camera/ turn into a wet noodle /get roosteritis , etc etc when the Uniparty / the old crow come calling, as so inevitably seems to usually happen with these guys ..
With Jordan as Speaker why would you think Ukraine would get funded???
Am soooo disappointed in DJT right now. As I was when he endorsed Kevin and Rona Mc
Whom should he have endorsed?
i guess its amazing Trump didnt throw his support to chip soy.
Just watched a clip on Bannon with Jordan and Insanity…Jordan doesn’t want the job, because it will reveal his cards. Jordan is pushing for another Continuing Resolution…🤣🤣🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
I really wished he would not support Jordan, but since he has there is only one thing people can do, write to President Trump and asked him to please reconsider his decision. When you send a donations send a note in it telling him who you think would be better I know that President Trump tries to listen to all things and then makes up his mind. so maybe if enough people show him something better He would change his mind and go for it..
Or accept he may have his reason, which so often have proven right, that we do not see, know, and may not understand due to lack of pertinent information.
Or not.
But he is still fighting when everyone else has failed.
Ok so there is this website called Conservative Review. One of their pages is called “the Liberty Score” you can look up how each member votes on the top 50 votes of importance. here is Kevin McCarthy’s score
https://libertyscore.conservativereview.com/kevin-mccarthy
And here is Jordans
https://libertyscore.conservativereview.com/jim-jordan
If anyone knows these scores to be inaccurate please post.
thank you that was informative
On voting, ONLY.
What if they did a Cruz and pushed legislation hard and got enough votes on ity to NOTY vote on a bad legislation, but it gives him a LOOKS GOOD by VOTE!
Not the best measure.
Especially when NONE of these creatures even write their own Legislation and just sell the Lobbyists bills instead.
This surely doesn’t cover Jim the mouth Jordan from protecting Hillary and Benghazi.
So that drops his “Liberty Score”, in my book, to a very low number as compliance with treason is treason.
Voting is kind of important for a congress critter. The difference in voting between McCarthy and Jordan is HUGE!
It’s the difference between someone who votes with the dems almost as much as he does his own party vs. a guy who votes conservative 94% of the time!
McCarthy voted with the dems a higher % of the time than Manchin votes with the GOP and you know many dems hate Manchin for voting with the GOP about 33% of the time. Our former speaker was voting with the demons 46% of the time! Talk about uniparty!
And whooosh, right over the head in comprehension.
As I stated the votes are a purposeful way off LYING about a VOTE record, because it ignores everything else up to that one point of reference!
Hillary and Benghazi are Jim Jordan writ large for all to see complicit in protecting treasonous Hillary and the Deep State!
That diminishes the Vote by 100% when you sleep with and protect known traitors.
Exactly. That’s what the job of the whip is, isn’t it? They pretty much know the results before the final vote or worse, any cloture vote-that’s where the games are really played. Granted, people can change their vote last minute but it gives cover for these sleaze balls to make their vote look adversarial to certain bills. All an illusion.
You are missing the point.
What the Uniparty does is make sure that there are enough votes to pass the garbage legislation. They will get their usual corrupt buddies (Murkowski, Graham, McConnell, Thune) to cross the aisle and vote their conscience.
That frees up the rest of them, such as Cruz, Rand Paul, Jim Jordan, to vote NO so that they can fundraise off of their “fighting the dems”.
It’s all theatre. Just like their interviews for whatever appointments are being put forth. These people do these Gotcha Questions for CSPAN that make us think that they are “really fighting” for us. Then they use these clips on Twitter and for fundraising to show us how “tough” they are against the commie dems.
It is surprising that so many are unaware of this.
Another feature of this system is that sone of the turncoat/collaborators rotate and take turns. This is so they don’t get tagged with too many “wrong votes.” When you are excited that your Senator voted correctly, there is a good chance that he was allowed to – because it didn’t matter.
McCarthy gave Pelosi and Schumer virtually everything they wanted:
1: 87,000 IRS Agents
2: EV tax credit $7,000
3: Solar tax credit 30%
4: Green New Deal $$$
5: EV charging stations
6: Billions for Ukraine
Thank You, I noticed McCarthy was 54% as was Patrick McHenry. Golly
Thanks for link. Very interesting! Explains quite a lot.
Before President Trump endorsed Jordan yesterday, I had searched for Jordan’s votes on bills that included the big money handouts to Ukraine. Every such bill that I found received a NAY vote from Jordan. I felt better about him, though I still was hoping that PDJT would be the next Speaker. If anyone has any further information on his Ukraine votes, please share. The Liberty score for Jordan makes me feel better, too.
I wonder how recent that is? I don’t see Cory Mills on there.
Thanks. Saved for future reference. Guess I didn’t look hard enough because this is something I was really interested in.
Thats a good site to gauge the level of “conservative votes” on bills for each Congress member.
Look at this table. Set the Party column to “Republican” then click the down arrow next to “Liberty Score” to sort by descending score. This reveals who are the most conservative voting House and Senate members.
https://libertyscore.conservativereview.com/
Well, that certainly was an eye opener.
13 Republicans from Ohio in the House. 10 got a D or F, including MY Congressman Bill Johnson – F!
I knew he wasn’t a fighter but I didn’t realize he was that bad.
Interesting that Jordan got a higher score than Gaetz by a substantial margin. I was a bit shocked to see Tom McClintock from CA was over 90%.
Drilling down, there were some votes in early 2023 tallied in the scores but most of the scoring is 2022 and prior. I looked at that when seeing a few folks missing from the lists, notably Rep Anna Luna (R-FL), who was also missing from the vote on McCommie due to medical leave.
One factor to consider is the extent the site leans to establishment Republicans, notably in work in the McCommie vote. Still, a good resource to collate voting records and drill down further at the House Clerk site for specifics. Thanks.