First the backdrop. Let us not pretend a confluence of events do not all go in one direction.
U.S. troops are conducting military exercises in eastern Moldova {link}. The CIA and State Department are the operational mechanism for all Ukraine military operations, and in total control of the Ukraine government {link}. American contracted mercenary troops operating in Ukraine are being treated at U.S. military hospitals in Germany {link}. U.S. military operations are flying drone missions above Ukraine, and U.S. satellites are coordinating the battlespace. Additionally, the U.S. is sending Abrams tanks, F-16 fighter jets along with support and training teams, and long-range missile launching systems into Ukraine. {link}
For all intents and purposes, the U.S driven NATO military forces are already actively engaged in Ukraine.
Simultaneously, the Dept of Defense {link} and CIA {link} have announced the deployment of advanced artificial intelligence operations for U.S. internet systems. That creation aligns with the Dept of Homeland Security organizing “homeland intelligence experts” {link} to control and monitor public information and shape U.S. public opinion. All of this is happening under the guise of national security. We have the COVID-19 backdrop to identify the public-private partnership approach to controlling information. This same process can easily be deployed to cover Ukraine sensitive content.
There’s your backdrop with citations. Now, given all of that, doesn’t the alignment of the demonstrable datapoints all flow in one unilateral direction?
The British are now saying the quiet part publicly and out loud:
The Telegraph – In an interview with The Telegraph, [Defense Secretary] Grant Shapps said that he had held talks with Army leaders about moving “more training and production” of military equipment into Ukraine. He also called on more British defence firms to set up factories in Ukraine.
Following a trip to Kyiv last week, Mr Shapps also reveals that he has talked to Volodymyr Zelensky, the Ukrainian president, about how Britain’s Navy could play a role in defending commercial vessels from Russian attacks in the Black Sea.
Both moves would mark a significant escalation in the UK’s involvement in defending Ukraine against Vladimir Putin’s onslaught. Speaking in his first newspaper interview as Defence Secretary. (read more)
They are determined to take us to war.
Last point, as you contemplate the severity by which everything is being organized, regardless of public opinion, don’t forget to overlay this context with their opposition to President Donald Trump; the one guy who could stop all of this.
Now do you see the context for the U.S. intelligence apparatus to manipulate everything about the 2024 election, including the use of RFK Jr?
It’s disgusting that these demons in our government pontificate about the sovereignty, security, and border protection of Ukraine while ignoring all of the same lofty goals in the USA.
That demon Schumer going on and on about bipartisanship between him and demon McConnell makes my blood boil.
C’ Mon man…
Can you imagine the balls of Zelensky using the money we provided for their defence to “INVEST” in Bankman-Fried???
Of course, Zelensky was probably told to do it by Schumer and the Democrats who got 90% of the political donations from Bankman-Fried. As usual the Republicans got the crumbs!
Zelenskyy family members also purchased a $5 Million mansion…but of course that story has been debunked by the usual anti actual journalism MSM groups.
The Dims’ Planned Parenthood perpetual money machine began to look shaky. The FTX scam must have looked simply fabulous when pitched to the party bosses.
You should add the arrow pointing directly from Ukraine to Biden.
It’s not “bi-partisanship”, it’s “Uni-partisanship”.
Bingo!!🦨
The McSchumer twins
They are looking forward to a major western military troop loss to show some self fulfilling prophecy as to why we should escalate the war.
Who is going to fight? The white, Christian southerners who normally fight and die in the Globalist American Empire’s forever wars are not signing up or are leaving post haste. Try winning a major powers war with trannies, psychiatric cases, and the functionally retarded. Pride comes before the fall, and the GAE is due.
That is the only silver lining. Their true colors are shining through. They don’t even try to hide it anymore. They hold us in contempt.
When Russia crossed the border everything changed. That event caused a popular uprising from the Ukrainian people, thousands upon thousands of whom had direct combat experance against previous Russian incursions . . .
This popular uprising led the Ukrainian government rather than the government leading the people. Ukrainians are fighting for their freedom. We are morally obliga2ted to help them.
You must take care of yourself first before you can take care of others.
When you get there to defend Ukraine, don’t forget to write.
He should go there and take Schumer and McConnel with him since they care more about Ukraine than the US.
The Ukrainians in the Donbass have been pleading with Putin to invade because they are ethnic Russians. You should know that Garrison since you feel so strongly about this conflict. In fact, those ethnic Russians broke away from Ukraine in 2014 and declared their independence just like the United States did in 1776. They formed their own country and their own military which was the primary force that advanced on Kyiv in the first weeks of the conflict. Remember, Putin offered to withdraw from Ukraine several times in exchange for Ukraine’s neutrality similar to Austria and Switzerland. All the death and destruction you see is being caused by Biden, Nuland and Blinken.
The west, and Ukraine signed the Minsk agreements to allow that to happen. All the leaders said it was just to buy time for Ukrainian army. That army has been decimated. Rand Corporation did study for US Army. We go in we lose 3600 a day!
Nice comment, Joe.
Spot on!
And the dark horde called congress leaves the door wide open for biden nuland and blinken to do their worst damage.
this^
(also this: russia stands on one of largest oil and natural gas reserves, that is far cheaper to process and transport. Ukraine is vital to russia becoming a global energy market maker. The energy interests of the likes of the US, Europe, canada, and even south america are threatened by this potential that russia and it’s large oil companies will completely disrupt oil markets…THIS IS AN ENERGY WAR…similar to IRAQ and the USG involvement there! (with some minor differences))
what I am saying is that there are NO GOOD GUYS IN THIS WAR. It impossible for me to pretend Russia does not have a very focused and specific military goal in mind to force a trade and treaty for the use of Ukraine ports, and land for at scale transshipment of it oil and gas. Nor am I pretending that the US and EU, canada, and south america, would sit idle and just let that happen.
it’s an energy war. All wars are about energy. Control, power, oil, gas…and soon lithium, cobalt, nickel, silver, copper. erase the names of the nation states…and what you see is militarization for control over major resources…that IS POWER…
just my opinion
God Bless America
I’ve always ascribed that all wars are economic in nature and that energy, in its various forms, is the current resource that drives that economic nature.
Russia is also blessed with vast amounts of other valuable resources, rare and more common.
You are right, but honest trading would have been so much better than hostility and destruction. There has never been a need for any of this. Greed and trickery lie behind the murderous schemes
Years ago (2016?) while visiting a foreign country (Israel) I watched an English-language television report from the Donbass.
There was a young woman, a mother whose arm had been blown off by Ukrainian shelling of her home. There were children who had been killed by shelling while trying to get to school. The narrator was pleading in English for Americans to pay attention to what we were paying for with our taxes.
At the end of all of this there is going to be not only a lot of dead innocents, but also a lot of blamecasting on Americans who paid more attention to domestic scandals than the ones beyond our (former) borders.
This situation is sickening and deadly.
If I am one of the people who departs to the next world in this incoming conflagration, thanks to Sundance&staff& commenters who have been a comfort for me since 2015. Seriously. You have done God’s work and tried your best.
😏
When Nato began annexing eastern europe everything changed.
Peace stopped breaking out all over and the peace dividend was fruitlessly frittered all away.
Because our leaders are motivated by greed and blackmail. They are ungodly people and we tolerated it until they killed us, which they are in the process of doing
100% BULLSHIT! NATO specifically the US caused this war.
Actually Victoria Nuland & the CIA fomented a color revolution in Ukraine in 2014 which destabilized the nation ever since and helped the Azov Nazis in their indiscriminate shelling, injuring and killing the peaceful citizens in the Donbas.
This was a prime reason Putin ran out of patience – his pleas for peace in the Donbas and to keep NATO missiles out of Ukraine went unanswered. So he went into eastern Ukraine with a limited force in early 2022, after announcing his reasons in a long speech. He has always been open to a negotiation for peace.
Please. The Ukraine government is tyrannizing its people (elections suspended; opposition parties and papers outlawed; disfavored churches made illegal; etc, etc).
Western Neocons goaded Russia by, among other things, blurbling about extending NATO membership to Ukraine. (Too bad we’re not similarly concerned about the CCP presence in Cuba or the Bahamas.)
And there are many other fights for freedom we remain strangely silent on, given your metric. Armenians currently being blockaded and starved by Azerbaijan (with the tacit aid of our NATO ally, Turkey) would no doubt enjoy having a share of that moral obligation. Ditto the Uighurs in slave labor camps (or worse) in China. Same probably goes for African nations in danger of being overrun by Boko Haram. The hellish civil war is still grinding on in Yemen. And I am sure there are other tragedies unfolding—or about to unfold—around the world.
I bought the Ukraine PR package, too. But only for about a minute. Snap out of it.
You could also add that the US is backing Isis in that hellhole formerly known as Syria. 🤦♀️ If that doesn’t show the overt evil intent of our government I don’t know what does.
It all comes down to congressional kickbacks from the MIC.
We should…
take care of the people in Maui,
Palestine Ohio, the homeless vets,
those on the streets,etc.
Secure the border from the current
invasion into-My country.😡😡😡
Here. In. My. Country
The USA
Just as Russia was morally
obligated to help the Russian
people in the Donbas from
genocide by Zelensky and his
Nazi goons.
Russia tried during
Minsk, and spoke up about
it and finally stepped up
to liberate the people of
Donbas.
The rest of the World stood
by and did NOTHING. And
thousands of people –
including women and children
were killed.
I do say a prayer when
I watch war footage for
all the men I see lying
wounded or dead on
the battlefield. 🙏
Rich men start wars
that poor people
fight and die in.😡
False, Ukraine and their Nazi’s were indiscriminately killing ethnic Russians in the Donbas region.
Putin stepped in to put a stop to the killing of innocents.
Freedom? In Ukraine? What exactly are you talking about?
Yeah let’s forget about the State Departments coup d’état in Kiev almost a decade earlier.
And let’s definitely forget about the thousands of Russian speaking civilians blown to pieces in the Donbas by the subsequent installed governments in Kiev ever since. We should probably also forget that since the end of the of the Cold War, and the Soviet Union, that NATO had doubled in membership and have pushed right up to the Russian border.
Take your moral obligation over there then. My moral obligations are God, family, country, in that order.
None of those include Ukraine or helping globalist maniacs maintain power.
Pack sand.
The Maidan Revolution spearheaded by ultra-right Ukraine forces (i.e., anti-Russian) toppled an elected gov’t. The US tacitly supported the revolution (i.e., funding) to shift Ukrainian policy into the US preferred EU orbit favored by the Western and Central portions of Ukraine population – but not the majority. Nuland, McCain et al famously supported the coup – which basically led to the replacement of one corrupt Ukrainian leadership with two successfully even more corrupt leaders (US favored Poroshenko then Zelensky). Enter the Bidens who elevated corruption to a whole new level.
We can get to all the post-WWII agreements with Russia/Soviet Union the West basically abandoned. Is/was Russia the exemplar of diplomacy and democracy? *ell no! But the Western allies were no better. The West, in many respects, is responsible for the present carnage.
There are no saints in this drama.
Not so funny, Tucker just warned the US citizens of the same thing You, Sundance, warned just a few weeks ago.
‘Watch: Tucker Carlson Says 2024 Won’t Be Trump vs. Biden, Warns It’s About to Get Serious”
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/09/watch-tucker-carlson-says-2024-wont-trump-vs/
He also said that Gavin Newsome as a candidate was scary.
Sundance, please explain why they think this is a good idea.
I get that the neocons actually think we can easily topple Russia (again, though, why/why bother?)
I get that there is sick profit to be made (and BlackRock may need a little help if there’s a real estate meltdown).
But how do they think this won’t go nuclear?
And if they’re actually not worried about a few nuclear bombs and a few million European dead, how do they possibly think this won’t spread?
If they actually think America is immune and would never be bombed, wouldn’t they like Europe —the cradle of Western Civilization—to still exist? (If they don’t actually care about the Europeans, at least so their grandkids could visit it someday?)
And how do they not see this fool’s errand weakening us in an increasingly dangerous world?
Please help me understand. I cannot get my mind around theirs.
Thank you for all you do.
They think America is immune and they still think our military is invincible. They don’t have a clue as to the damage done by wokeness.
and they also think it wont affect them personally. that is the Fatal Conceit of socialism (F.A.Hayek).
My take is SD doesn’t think it’s a good idea, Jeanne. Like you and the rest of us think it’s a terrible idea. My 2 cents is that the US and NATO want a truce to save face for Biden. Russia just said NO so the NATO responded with a threat to escalate. Sort of playing a game of chicken @
Of course SD doesn’t think it’s a good idea. That’s clear from everything he communicates.
I’m asking him to help me get inside the minds of those who do.
The whole thing seems dangerous and utterly daft. But these are not stupid people. Nor are they people who willingly brave personal danger.
These people aren’t stupid but they are insane with lust for control and power.
Are they so blind they don’t see they will only rule over ashes?
What makes them think that this is a manageable crisis? Let alone that they’ll come out on top?
…and wealth.
Inside those minds you
would find sick psychopaths.
Twisted, demented and
dark.
True evil.
“Sin darkens the intellect”, said Aquinas, i.e. “sin makes you stupid”. These people are drenched in every sin and spiritually drowned in murdered babies blood (abortion). Their sins have made them blind — and of course the rest of us can’t umderstand them. How could we?
We just have to stop them & prevent them coming to power ever again. A national strike ought to bring them up short re: their war mania. But it’ll have to be drastic, and soon.
They are psycopaths, and government is bankrupt. They need default, and the elevated death levels covered up by a good reason.
You have some reasonable points.
FWIW: I’m still not sure what I think of Martin Armstrong, but IIRC he thinks they need war to prevent currency collapse and/or provide a plausible excuse when it happens.
Like kids about to be discovered having emptied the kitty, so they set their parents’ home afire.
This will create a very public litmus test of the House Republicans’ willingness to withhold funding of the continuing war in Ukraine. We’ll see how many (only a few are needed) and how quickly some of them cave to the power of the GOPe.
In a fair world, every rep or senator who votes for $ for Ukraine, or war, should have to put up one son or daughter in the mix.
Holy Mushroom Cloud!!
They are pulling out all the stops.
True, they are simply speaking aloud what they’ve been doing all along, but the incremental transparency is itself an escalation, setting the stage for dragging the world into war at a level not seen in several decades, risking going far beyond.
Heaven help us!
Remember the 16 year plan that Trump disrupted?
Making up for lost ground.
As the Lakota Sioux leader Crazy Horse famously exhorted his troops “Hokahey, today is a good day to die!”
So that is who the Klingons stole that phrase from.
It’s how the global cabal takes control. World War III. Emergency powers.
I have been saying we aren’t going to make it to next year. They are forcing Putin’s hand and he will have no choice but to attack our military in the field. We have to stop them before that happens – by any means necessary.
could we get him to bomb D.C.?
If ANYONE here remembers the Vietnam war – it started for us (the US) by putting ADVISORS ‘in country’ …
Tripwires.
Well hidden, their expirations unintentional, nevertheless serving as an obtuse pretext for escalation.
I remember it well. Lost my cousin. Sniper shot him. He was to come home the next day….I also remember ADVISORS being there…
fwiw, in an interview Col Fletcher Prouty, who was a cargo pilot in WW2, said that before WW2 was even over they were setting up for the wars in Korea and Vietnam – he questioned who gave those orders and realized there was a hidden ruling elite that was calling the shots (The Real “Mr. X”: Colonel Fletcher Prouty Interview by EIR- youtube)
as did the Korean War. My dad was one of the “advisors/trainers”
Oops?
I’m not worried about the Brits. I’m worried about the American operations you describe. There are two ways for them to stop President Trump. One is to take him out. The other is to start a real war with Russia. Somehow we have to prevent both.
Well, you should worry about the Brits because there’s a lot of old info out there that suggests this war was manipulated into being using us (USA) as a diplomatic, economic & intelligence proxy for them and their ambitions on that region in this scheme going back years.
The problem is that all NATO members, whether it is Great Britain or freakin’ Iceland, are covered by Article 5.
You need just one British soldier or one British ship to be “attacked” by Russian forces and suddenly we are in World War III. We already came close once when a Ukrainian missile landed on Polish territory last year and was falsely identified as a Russian one. The only thing standing between the world and Article 5 was a Polish villager with a cell phone.
Invocation of Article 5 is not a foregone outcome under those circumstances. The North Atlantic Council, which represents the political leadership of each NATO member, is the body responsible for determining whether any attack against a NATO member should trigger the Article 5 collective defense obligation.
Article 5 has been invoked only once, after the 9/11 attacks, which enabled NATO to play a significant role in the U.S.-led military intervention in Afghanistan, including command of the International Security Assistance Force in 2003.
Article 6 of the NATO Charter, however, limits the geographic application of Article of 5. As British forces would be present in a non-NATO country, it is likely that at least some European members of NATO – probably Hungary and Turkey – would likely reject application of Article 5 to prevent World War III should Russian forces kill British personnel in Ukraine.
In my interpretation, for Article 5 to apply, Russian forces would have to attack British forces on British soil or in areas of Europe that British forces occupied, like Berlin or West Germany, when the North Atlantic Treaty entered force over 70 years ago.
Of course, I could be wrong. Here’s the relevant information on Articles 5 and 6.
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_110496.htm?selectedLocale=ki
You are probably correct, but your correctness is likely irrelevant.
These people do not care about the letter of the law. Any molehill of a pretext will become an Everest in pursuit of their war. That is where “the deployment of advanced artificial intelligence operations for U.S. internet systems” comes into play.
As many of us warned months ago, warning about and working against the threat of global nuclear war is about to be defined as an act “Russian disinformation” and “domestic violent extremism.”
And dealt with as such.
NATO is a defense pact, not a war pact. If some member(s) want to attack another country there is no obligation on other members to join. – paraphrasing Vicktor Orban
People are worried about the requirement for mutual defense should Russia kill NATO member nation troops deployed to Ukraine.
If UK puts its troops into a war zone and they get injured or killed that’s UK’s problem and no one else’s.
Exactly!
Interesting point. But wouldn’t an attack on an ally’s forces be an attack on an ally? And it would indeed be taking place “ in Europe or North America ”.
Virtually all the US wars have been at least partially pretexed by a false flag.
Truth and rules have been irrelevant
Yes, there is a possibility that Washington and/or London could stage a false Russian attack against a NATO member and use that attack as a pretext to call for direct NATO intervention in Ukraine.
Alternatively, they could try to goad Russia into such an attack which would provide a genuine degree of support for the inevitable pro-Article 5 narrative.
For example, placing U.K. or other NATO military personnel on merchant ships carrying weapons to Ukraine through the Black Sea would confront Russia with a dilemma: Let the ships and the weapons pass or interfere and risk escalation with NATO.
Or they could just perpetrate a false Russian flag attack against a merchant ship with British military personnel aboard that either sinks it or creates enough damage and deaths to be convincing.
Regardless of the method used to set up Russia, there is a risk that some NATO members will refuse to support any invocation of Article 5 unless clear limits are imposed on the NATO response to prevent escalation.
Article 5 does not require a direct military response of any kind. It is silent on this aspect because the United States wanted the flexibility to avoid an automatic military response to any Soviet provocations.
It is up to the North Atlantic Council to decide what the Article 5 response should be, and the Council could endorse a response that does not involve the deployment of NATO combat units into Ukraine.
The Biden Administration loves to say that NATO has never been more united. This is a fiction. Hungary and Turkey, for different reasons, are not reliable allies against Russia. And Poland’s support for Ukraine is obviously broken. Public opposition to the war in the Czech Republic is evident and so on.
Any attempt to invoke Article 5 in response to a sketchy incident runs a significant risk of failure. Going going into an election year, the fiction of NATO unity must be maintained at all costs to offset Ukraine’s military failures and to convince the American people that U.S. support for Ukraine is a good thing. Therefore geopolitical pretending must continue and in this scenario any actions that could shatter the appearance of NATO unity are to be avoided.
Secretary of State Blinken’s public statements will provide important clues. So will statements by the new Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Air Force General C.Q. Brown. His appointment signals a greater focus on China than Russia. Remember: the balance of U.S. forces is tilted 60:40 in favor of the Indo-Pacific theater. Freezing the conflict in Ukraine is an attractive option to those in the military and government who view China as the greater threat.
All that said, rationality is in the eye of the beholder and the rabid neoconservative obsession with wrecking Russia should not be underestimated. As long time readers of CTH understand, the national security state has perpetrated hoax after hoax on the American people since Trump entered the White House in 2016. The Covid lockdowns further compounded the situation.
Public trust in the government has fallen to levels so low that the very legitimacy of the federal government is in danger of being lost, not that the American political class understands this. It doesn’t.
There is also some risk that the government could add a domestic component to any false flag attack against NATO. A devastating simultaneous cyber attack blamed on Russia is an obvious scenario, which would enable the Biden White House to invoke emergency powers and motivate politicians to attack Trump and his supporters for wanting to appease Russia.
To sum it up, there is no guarantee this time that a false flag attack will reset the war in Ukraine or trick the American people into supporting actions contrary to their best interests. Time will tell, but there are solid reasons to believe that cooler heads will prevail and that World War III will be avoided.
Pedro
This is a well thought out plausible, thoughtful, measured and thorough thesis.
Very, very impressive!
At your service!
Chief of Staff General CQ Brown appointment signals yet more Affirmative Action, less military strength.
I am positive that British and NATO soldiers have already been killed in Ukraine. I think that their deaths are being hidden from the public. And if they are taking on military tasks which would include training, they will be considered combatants.
There have been several Russian strikes on planning centers and afterwards, Telegram channels show planes flying from that location to Poland and/or Germany. US “volunteers” who are wounded are being treated at US bases in Germany………that fact hints that maybe some of these “volunteers” weren’t so voluntary.
They have. As both you and sundance pointed out, American mercenaries wounded in combat Russians forces are being treated at American military hospitals. AS missiles tend to do more than cause wounds, we can safely assume there is some corner of a foreign field that is forever NATO.
But it is all off the books right now. Both sides are pretending not to know things. Or perhaps it is more accurate to say the Russians are pretending not know things, while the West is trying very earnestly to get the Russians to stop pretending not to know things.
Casualties are also apparently being covered up by claiming they resulted from training accidents.
That would more accurately be “OJT” accidents……
That’s a keeper.
We may need it.
Belle
I think so too.
And that when some of
our politicians go for a visit
to see the little green gnome
in Kiev that they bring
advisors or special ops
with them and then pick
up the remains of those who
were killed.
I read recent reports about a
German soldier…actual
German soldier..not mercenary..
the Russian soldiers rescued from
a Leopard tank. He was still alive
and while they were trying to save him
he was singing like a canary.
Bad news is that although they tried
to save him he still died. 🙏
Exactly, Keeler. And very well-written.
Unfortunately when and where one NATO country goes the rest follow.
Pray you Rosary. Praying the Rosary has resulted in miracles over the centuries!
Putin will probably interpret British moves as the result of American machinations. And he probably won’t be wrong.
Actually the City of the London is the tail that wags that American dog. Boris Johnson is the one that told the Z-bag that he could not negotiate peace. So there is that.
^^^^^^^^
The Banksters of all Banksters behind the scenes of the politics or this mess.
And more credence to my supposition that the ‘Brits’ were the ones behind all of this BS.
Thank you BK
Neither is Russia. They have 73,000 troops, and a lot of old equipment. Rand Corrporation told US Army you go in you lose 3600 soldiers a day!
Pieces of shit…
Maybe this explains the sudden intense interest in Russell Brand… not good for The Narrative…
Not sure if you know who Martin Armstrong is? He knows a lot of the global players good, and bad since the 70
s. His computer has been predicting war for a long time. The World Economic Forum scumbags want a world war for many reasons. Cover up the coming government defaults, clot shot deaths, ban on cash, introduction of gov
t crypto that tracks everything. Hes been doing interviews a lot more. He met Trump, and advised him economically at start of covid. I occasionally make comments, but I
m not notified of responses. Governments, and traders around the world been following him since the 70s. He
s on our side.And I keep hearing/reading
Many reports from Ukraine troops
and Commanders that they don’t
follow the training they got in
NATO/EU.
Because if they did they
would all be dead.
Heard Rand Corp. study to US Army last week. We lose 3600 a day if we go in.
If rfk gets secret service protection and the media start pumping him up then we’ll know what the score is. If some Desantis supporters go for RFK over Biden or newsome then great. Aside from that, not sure the CIA is competent enough execute too complicated of a plan. And people are more complicated than any political pundit gives them credit for. It’s easy to put voters into four or five political boxes. In reality, there are about 15 boxes with moving parts.
Martin Armstrong has been posting on his blogs for over a year that they will take us to war in Ukraine to keep President Tump out of the Oval. History reflects that we have never changed horses mid stream a war. In this case it will just be Newsom slipping to the saddle as if that’s not a change and RFJ Jr will be the decoy. Recently Poso posted that 45 is outside the margin of fraud, but with RFK Jr as an Indie, that margin disappears. The fraud will go in all 3 directions and they’ll run the story that we can’t change during a war.
I wasn’t previously convinced they’d pull it off, until RFK JR is switching to an I. It is feasible.
“History reflects that we have never changed horses mid stream a war.”
We now must wonder if that history was due to the voters’ choice at the polls or the Corrupt Establishment’s choice using rigged and otherwise fraudulent election results.
IMHO an awakened majority of Americans see the bullshyte behind the government’s “support” of the Ukraine war and would vote for the candidate they perceive as being most likely to end it. President Trump has been 100% consistent with his position against conflict in Ukraine. No other candidate has been publicly as consistent as PDJT.
“If voting changed anything they wouldn’t let us do it.”
A keen observation, certainly.
Our response should always be, “But we aren’t going to let them prevent us from doing it!”
Keen observation GB. A lot has changed since the Roosevelt days. The cycle might break for the reasons you note. It won’t break if Dems/neocons are in control although we have Rs of the same mindset. We’ll see how this all plays out all to soon I’m afraid.
From what I remember being told while growing up, most everyone in my family and most everyone they knew voted for FDR and subsequently for Truman. Pretty sure my parents (both their nuclear families were all lifelong Democrats) voted for Stevenson in ’52 and ’56. I still remember my father watching the ’56 Democrat National Convention on the Philco 20″ B&W TV in our living room.
With almost all voting from the early 1900s to the 1970s being done via the big lever-lock mechanical machines that recorded vote totals on elecro-mechanical counters, I think any fraudulent changes to vote totals had to be accomplished in the counting processes after the votes had been cast.
After electronic machines were introduced in the 1970s, technology started to change frequently as the crooks in power searched for the perfect cheating machine with which to fool voters into thinking their votes were actually counted as cast…. .
This is so frightening
My children
Dear God my little grandchildren
The four horsemen of the Apocalypse have saddled up and are ready to ride. Is the time that all true Bible believers and Chrisian’s have heard about and dreaded for so long almost here? It seems we may soon find out…
The Lord Jesus Christ will call up His Bride first.
The Revelation of Jesus Christ 4 is what happens after the Rapture.
Although there will be Tribulation saints, it is best to settle once and for all, now, that Jesus Christ is your Lord and Savior.
Our Nation!!! God help us.
Fools you cut production of all your industry, starve yourself of oil, and then your head longing into a war that you cannot win. I can bet that the United States is doing the same thing.
Your greatest blunder that you don’t believe in God and you don’t know what is coming down the pike to the west all I can see is a bunch of fools.
The Bible has made it clear, what will happen. The Russian’s have hypersonic missiles and a lot of nuclear weapons.
No one is going to win! It is over with the first Nuke
As you know, Kathleen the events predicted will become compressed (less time).
Today: Pray that they turn back from this course while there is still time.
The fate of Babylon the Great is written in Revelation 14:8 A second angel followed and said, “‘Fallen! Fallen is Babylon the Great,’[a] which made all the nations drink the maddening wine of her adulteries.”. The prior Chapter is Revelation 13:16-17, and it appears to be recently confirmed as occurring.
I submit that it’s not possible to have a Western Army if “Babylon The Great” is destroyed. And so it must follow that the Western Army can not be at Armageddon in support of the Antichrist
Babylon the Great is America and Babylon is the U.K.
Still in moderation admin?
You’re free…
Europe needs to resist abiding American mandates of aggression.
Europe needs to rethink NATO.
Europe needs to love peace.
Europe is run by the Green Party and they hate Russia, oil wells, natural gas, pipelines and Putin because he’s not into the transgender hoax!
Greens love not their children.
WEF is a suicide pact for the West on behalf of China.
All the bit players are suitably insane to play their parts without recognition of the end state.
Poland may be having second thoughts about being volunteered to walk the plank next
They have already made statements to that effect.
They are pulling back from support, and making noises about recovering long lost territories.
Sliver Ukraini!
Wonder, how easy of a time will they have it? Our forward operating base is in Poland. We’ve been shipping men, tanks, artillery, etc over there all year. I don’t know that Poland is simply going to be able to tell NATO they’ve changed their mind.
Be a good time for Poland to not get played in a World War.
Their call.
Poland is “iffy” right now.
Elections coming up Oct 15,
so whether or not we can
believe the recent “drama”
happening between now Poland
and Ukraine 💁🤷♀️🤷♀️
Right now it looks like
the bro-mance between
Zelensky and Duda…has
ended.
Whether or not they get
back together….we will know
after Oct. 15 elections.
I believe Slovakia is having
elections in near future
and we will see
where they stand after elections.
One of candidates is against
sending aid and arms to
Ukraine.
🤷♀️💁💁🤷♀️
What is the likelihood that China will defend Russia & take Taiwan at the same time?
Oh & activate their “migrant” gorilla army already in the US?
High
According to Col Macgregor we can’t begin to fight a one front war let alone a two front war.
How about the home front?
The Col is quite knowledgeable & very frank in his assessments.
The Chinese will not take Taiwan by force unless we provoke them
Perhaps that’s why China Joe is beating the war drums over Taiwan?
To create the impression of threat that China can respond to and do as it already wished to do?
Our noise about Taiwan escalated dramatically the moment China’s fully purchased puppet was installed, so his threats their direction most likely come at their behest, n’est-ce pas?
Take Taiwan?
Taiwan is a Province of China.🥴😵💫
The question is are we going
to use Taiwan as the next
Ukraine 2.0.
Fellow Treepers…..
Please read this
Taiwan – United States Department of State
The first paragraph on the page
Please read it!!!
🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️💁💁
Sigh…
Taiwan – United States Department of State
👆👆👆click above
U.S.-Taiwan Relations The U.S. and Taiwan enjoy a robust unofficial relationship. The 1979 U.S.-P.R.C. Joint Communique switched diplomatic recognition from Taipei to Beijing. In the Joint Communique, the U.S. recognized the Government of the People’s Republic of China as the sole legal government of China, acknowledging the Chinese position that there is but one China and Taiwan is part of China. The Joint Communique also stated that the people of the U.S. will maintain cultural, commercial, and other unofficial relations with the people of Taiwan. The American Institute in Taiwan (AIT) is responsible for implementing U.S. policy toward Taiwan.
Russia’s improved battlefield performance is causing major concern in NATO capitals, but the U.S. and European defense industrial base cannot keep pace with Russia’s. The Brits as usual are out in front of the U.S., pushing for greater direct NATO involvement inside Ukraine. Our leaders are playing with nuclear fire, having forgotten that it burns.
In the meantime, historic Russian ally Serbia is increasing pressure on Kosovo, putting NATO under additional pressure. There are 4,500 NATO personnel in Kosovo, including 600 Americans. British forces under NATO command are present as well.
https://taskandpurpose.com/news/nato-kosovo-serbia-tensions/
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/29/us/politics/white-house-serbia-kosovo.html
With putatively Ukraine bound arms finding their way directly to Kosovo, who is really pressuring who?
There’s going to be a war in Europe. I hope we can stay out of it but I’m not confident.
The UK Armed Forces by Branch-
In 2023, there were approximately 142,560 active personnel in the armed forces of the United Kingdom, 77,540 of which were in the British Army, 32,180 in the Royal Air Force, 26,330 in the Royal Navy, and 6,510 in the Royal Marines.
Basically, the Ukrainian Army lost more men KILLED IN ACTION (80,000) over the past eleven weeks offensive than the entire British Army!
Am I missing something here???
An American Draft?
Or the purpose of the US pushing Britain to play suicide?
It doesn’t matter if there is only one British battalion in existence, or just one British ship in seaworthy condition.
If just one British soldier or sailor is killed in an engagement with Russian forces, Article Five can be triggered.
Maybe that is what the Western leaders want. Maybe they see officially committing ground and naval forces into the conflict as a game of chicken in which they can get the Russians to blink.
Regardless of what they are thinking, assuming they are thinking at all, they are playing a dangerous game for which, as you point out, they are dangerously unprepared. Unprepared militarily. Unprepared industrially. Unprepared diplomatically. Unprepared socially. Unprepared morally.
They are throwing us upon what Churchill referred to as the agate points of history.
Churchill would be in ecstasy over the current US machinations for war. Right up his alley.
No, but the King can call up the military of the Realm countries, notably Australia, Canada & New Zealand and a bunch of the smaller ones on a whelm.
He can request assistance from other Commonwealth countries should they decide to participate. One of note is India.
Those ‘Realm’ countries swear allegiance to the Crown, not their respective countries’ constitution.
Never forget that.
That’s who owns them.
In Canada, they may be passing the baton to the CCP. CCP military training exercises north of the border?
CCP base in Cuba?
What gives ‘American’ ‘heroes’ in CON-gress?
They really want..WW3……there is no opposition in EU gov.(minus Hungary)/USA/CANADA….
None! They are run by the Green Party. They hate Russia and Orthodox Christians.
All Wars Are Bankers Wars- by Mike Rivero, youtube
said first by Gen Smedly Butler in 1939
God DARN it!!!
We knew this was happening, yet I tell this to friends every day. One who has ancestry in Ukraine, and he complained that Russia was responsible for a lot of Ukranian deaths. NOT the SOVIET Union, but Russia.
He is so thoroughly mixed up. Has no idea of the 2014 Maidan Color Revolution, Obama, Nuland, and a whole lot of other things he should be studying.
Lord, please give me the strength of patience.
It is hard.
Patience is a good thing…
Kudos for trying.
I have the feeling you will
be successful in your
attempt at educating them.👏👏
Keep trying. Perseverance.
If we all can just make one other open their eyes, it will spread.
God speed to you.
Do you want to bet U.S. military are being used as ‘mercenaries’ in Ukraine?
Mercenaries as in paid cash for services.
After all, our cash, $150 billion or so spent on Zelensky, has to be laundered back to these United States some how.
Feints, jukes and misdirection represent chess pieces moved about the New Great Game with The Ukraine and Russia as prizes.
Now THOSE are prizes worth sacrificing a few American soldiers, sailors, Marines and airmen.
These people are really fckg crazies
And evil.
Half a million dead Ukrainians mean absolutely nothing to the puppets of the military industrial complex in Washington DC. They plan to run this war to the last Ukrainian. Sadly for them, the Russians are going to do some very heavy ass kicking if they keep it up. The war is lost as in its over.
Only dig your fallout shelter to a depth of 10 feet or less. In the event of a cave in, it will be easier to dig out. I live in Florida, so I am hoping for a favorable wind and maybe they will only go after Tampa(centcom)
Have you ever seen the
reports/stories of all the ships
We lost on our Atlantic coast during
WWII?
Torpedo Alley – Wikipedia
400 ships sunk
5000 people killed
mostly Merchant Marines
and civilians.
And Torpedo Alley is just
one location.
German U Boats were knocking
out ships up and down ourEastern
coast……
Not something they taught us
in History class.😉
I read a story
by a Japanese journalist awhile
back…Russia has sub missile
that will cause a tsunami that
is as high as the Statue of Liberty.
Is his claim true…I have no
idea. 😵💫 and would rather not
find out.
I think we need to start asking
our politicians about the status
of our Defense Systems…..🤷♀️🤷♀️
Are we still using the 70s-80’s
minute man defense system?
You are referencing a nuclear powered nuclear armed torpedo that can traverse the Atlantic on it’s own, quickly and unstoppably.
All indications appear such is real.
Don’t poke the Bear.
It is called ”Poseidon”…
Status-6 Oceanic Multipurpose System
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Status-6_Oceanic_Multipurpose_System
Thanks for the link.
It has been a few years
since I read the article.
The Japanese journalist
painted a very grim picture
describing the potential
effects of Poseidon.
You are welcome..
”Freely ye have received, freely give. ” Matthew 10, 8
can they hit D.C.?
Only if they can beat my asteroid.
I was always told as a
kid that one of the reasons
our country didn’t mess
with the USSR was because we
were never sure what was
in their arsenal.
Same thing probably applies
to the Russian Federation.
The drone warfare Russia is
using appears to be kicking
some major butt.
I don’t think anyone was
prepared for that.
Equipment sent
to Ukraine has been
neutralized
in one way or another.
We are. Read an article last night about how the US is putting nuclear updates in wrap speed (because it worked so well for the jab?) because the tech hasn’t changed since the ‘70s and few currently working know how to use it.
So basically the article
is admitting we are still
using the same defense
system?
Warp speed is too late.
What people do not understand is that Putin, in the context of Russian of politics, is a moderate and was more inclined to cooperation with the West than most Russian politicians. If the Russian hard-liners were in control, we’d already be in direct and open warfare.
With the Ukrainian counter offensive at an abysmal end, and as the result of numerous provocations, it looks like the Russian military is about to be let off the leash. Odessa and other cities in Ukrainian territory that were previously left alone are now being hit, likely representing the starting phase of a large Russian offensive beyond the Russian-speaking areas in Eastern Ukraine.
If we think the Western brain trust is crazy, wait until Russian forces roll, or even threaten to roll into Odessa, Kiev, and Galicia.
That might be the “thinking” behind NATO troops being put in Ukraine. The West has put out feelers for a freeze in the conflict. Russia has rejected these feelers, because it is winning and because it has no faith in any peace. Perhaps Western leaders believe they can get Russia to blink and prevent a total collapse of their puppet if they stretch an Article Five trip wire across western Ukraine.
If that is what they think, I suspect they are catastrophically wrong.
That’s my guess too. The United States and NATO wanted a truce and Russia said DROP DEAD!
So now NATO is threatening to escalate with British troops on the ground.
Biden is play chicken with a nuclear power!
Russia wanted a truce, and had negotiated it, and we sent Boris Johnson to Kiev to nix it.
Russia wanted Ukraine to abide the 2014 Minsk accords; not only were they not honored, Merkel and others recently let on that they never intended to buy them and that their bad faith was only meant to deceive Russia while they built up for their assault, whilst terrorizing the Donbas.
The Demented West has provoked Russia since with intransigence, bad faith and war crimes, always threatening escalation and enabling attacks on Mother Russia, and now Russia is committed to a slow roll up of all Ukraine, to keep the East and South all the way to Odessa and the Moldavian border, deNazifying and demilitarizing the rest and letting Poland and Romania take what they wish of it, leaving Ukraine a harmless rump state no one wants or cares about or can use to threaten Russia again.
Sliver Ukraini!!
Highly accurate in all details, M!
Of course, I expect no less with you, as usual.
👊
“A slow roll up”? A fast sweep could put the Ukrainians and NATO back on their heels, and make suing for talks and a settlement that would leave western Ukraine intact (and neutral) the obvious solution.
Of course the Brits and our State Dept might take it as an excuse to jump in feet first. Got to think of some way to prevent that. . . .
If things were going well for American neo-con elites and their proxy war pet project, they wouldn’t be stooping down to these levels of publicly visible insanity.
So there’s hope for the world.
The days when they tarred and feathered politicians needs to be revived!!
The globalists forces of Evil have complete control of the affirmation action ,woke military that has been purged of any officers who took their oath to the constitution seriously ,funded ,unwillingly ,by the wealthiest country’s taxpayers in their quest for world domination.
This is being done with the assistance of the uniparty shills , the corrupted justice system and the controlled media.
When a man who had his uncle and father assassinated by this cabal either joins with them or at least is going to allow himself to be used as a pawn by them we must come to the realization that the world is in serious jeopardy.
For gods sake the people who’s help we so desperately need can’t even bring themselves to impeach the stupidest, most corrupt ,addled drug addicted demented scumbag family to justice.
Does everyone realize that it is only due to one man ,Putin ,who ,to date ,has been the only adult in the geopolitical political room .
It is only because of his restraint That we are not now in a world war that would make all others look like a polite argument .
Putin remains restrained even though the west has continues to try to provoke his taking very severe retaliatory action.
Right now the people in Washington DC as well as all our vulnerable and in some cases defenseless military assets are on very thin ice.
For example naval regulations state that all US aircraft carriers are forbidden to sail in hostile waters since they are sitting ducks.
One order from Putin and every ocean and sea will instantly become hostile waters.
And don’t think Russia needs to use nukes to
devastate this brainwashed ,soft ,childlike country we find ourselves in today.
Russia is the sane man of Eurasia.
Russia is the sane man of the entire planet!
God help us.
World War III is likely upon us. And we likely will lose this time.
I hope we’re on John Titor’s most current timeline
avoid jacksonville
The banking cartel wins the wars–while they get the citizens to slaughter each other, they stay home and rake in the profits from loaning to both sides and getting all nations enslaved with debt.
WWI was an excellent example.
Yes it is and many do not know the extent of the horror and devastation wrought in WWI.
Or, that it was manipulated into being by the same subversive group manipulating events now, nor the fact that it ushered in the Bolsheviks to power in Russia and the other former Soviet states; or their was a similar effort concurrent in Germany at the same time.
That effort in Germany was the real reason that the Germans signed the Armistice to end WWI. So the military could quash the internal Bolshevik uprising in their own country.
And manipulating from the background Christians to kill Christians while slowly enslaving the rest.
Is all part of a century plus plan.
They will recruit the immigrant population into the army and offer them citizenship if they survive. Look at all the fighting age men who have come into the country. Not a good deal, imo.
Some jurisdictions are allowing them To join law enforcement Andsome illegals are ,as we read these posts being allowed to join the military.
If push comes to shove who do we think their loyalty will lie.
That nightmare has already been gamed out.
The writing is on the wall.
The process has already begun.
Jim, you are a bit overly concerned about illegal immigrants being police officers. They are not allowed to purchase, possess or own a handgun or ammunition unless they have a Green Card.
California tried it a while back and got stopped cold. It’s a federal firearms felony to even give a handgun to an illegal immigrant and the same felony for them getting one.
If they are in Ukraine, they will just be part of the charnel house. Very sad.
No way will immigrants fight . Regardless if they are recruited drafted, etc. All hell will break out. They are hunkered down . The only thing they will fight for is their hotel room and meals .
.
If they are sent out of the country to ‘fight’, then when they are discharged, their only option should be to keep their weapon, be given a severance check, and given transport back to their native countries to ‘fight’ for it to be a viable place for them to live.
Oh, yeah. And they should be told that they forfeited their right to ever set foot in these United States for taking the deal to sell their bodies for these pimps on government . . .
So….
those who are coming
into our Country
instead of fighting for
their own Country ….
will join the military
to fight in a War for
the country they illegally
came into. 😵💫🥴
That may have happened
in the past and a small
percentage may have done it…
but I really don’t see
it happening nowadays.
Just checked the info regarding the American draft. Apparently it includes males ages 18 to 25, citizens and IMMIGRANTS.
I would put the illegal invaders in this category, put them at the front of the line, if it comes to that.
There are thousands of military age men, sitting in hotels, unemployed, they need to get busy. Ukraine would be the best place – IF this Nuland Obama cabal decides to go that route.
Recall the primary challenge of training Ukrainians on US weapons and tactics?
English.
Even for those destined to march into a meat grinder, they cann0t be commanded without a common tongue.
Good evening Maquis,
Excellent point. Thanks.
.
Have the different nationalizes each in their own regimens.
Then, transport them back to their native countries upon discharge to take care of their own countries.
I have no doubt they
would find a work around.
”special units” of illegals
or something of that nature.
The Government will find
a way to bend the rules.
Aspen,I would like to remind you that your analysis is giving the benefit of the doubt to the Obama cabal.
Believe me if they join the military in mass they will be used against us.
The reason the national guard deploys the ranks far from their home base in theory is so they won’t be sympathetic to any looters
That tactic would work like a dream with a bunch of low IQ prone to violence scum who we’re given authority over the people they despise.
Hi Jim,
I was looking for a win win solution to this possible quagmire. It would certainly be a deterrent, to future invaders.
RThat would be nice Aspen but there can only be one winner in this situation.
Classic case of us or them.
You really think they will go and fight to keep busy!
The centre of Europe is moving east. Britain, France & Germany are losing their places at the head of the table.
Britain has decided to sacrifice Poland to stop the European Centre’s move to the east. Both Britain and France sold out Poland before the start of World War II. History is rhyming.
While I think it’s more accurate to say that Britain and France sold out Czechoslovakia before World War II, and Poland at the end of it, your overall point is solid. Although from their rather narrow and Eurocentric view they might consider the center of Europe is moving out of Europe entirely. And in this they may not be entirely wrong, as global power is shifting rapidly out of the Western world entirely.
Interestingly, there has been a lot of noise out of Poland in recent weeks against further escalation. So perhaps, if it is not mere political positioning ahead of the upcoming elections, the Poles are aware of this.
There’s good evidence that before the outbreak of war in 1939 the US and the Brits were aware of the provision in the secret protocol between Germany and the USSR that would give eastern Poland to the USSR in the event of war, and that they (the US and UK) intentionally didn’t tell the Poles about this. That is, they didn’t tell the Poles that they would likely be dealing with an invading Red Army in the event of war, and instead encouraged Polish intransigence re Danzig. Wanting to weaken Germany at all costs, they were content to lead the Poles “down the primrose path”, just as they are doing to the Ukrainians now. If this is right, it can be argued that Poland was sold out before the shooting started.
Here is an alternative better take at why Poland was so called ‘sold out’ and Germany really went in to take it:
At the end of WWI, Germany by the Armistice was forced to give up centuries ancient Prussian territories in what was Western Poland that had a majority ethnic Germanic people inhabiting that area for centuries.
Why Prussia? It was the heart of the German Protestant and military aristocracy that guided the German states for centuries. Think Teutonic Knights, same with some Baltic areas near Russia (Koninsburg).
Poland had a population that comprised not only ethnic Poles but the largest concentration of inhabitants from the former Pale of Settlement (created by the Czar in 19th century) that were harassing, oppressing and committing atrocities against those ethnic Germans and seizing their properties without recourse. Germany had repeatedly warned the Polish government to stop this behavior, much like the Russians warned the Ukrainians to stop oppressing ethnic Russians in the Donbas in recent times.
This area was also where a lot of the subversives who participated in trying to overthrow the Kaiser with a communist revolution while German troops were deployed on the Eastern and Western fronts in WWI hailed from.
That internal Polish group not only did not curtail their activities, they escalated it.
Germany had enough of it and finally went in to take back that which had been stripped of them after WWI and protect their own ethnic people being robbed, beaten, raped and dispossessed.
Strange how that doesn’t make into mainstream history books.
But history is always written by the ‘winners,’ right?
There are extant contemporary news and historical sources to confirm this information but they are hard to find as they have been suppressed, banned in some countries (Germany).
Think about that for a while.
🤔🤔🤔
The true political spectrum is about concentration of wealth. The aristocracy/oligarchs share the same political space with dictators, be they left wing or right wing.
Evidence shows the aristocracy loved Hitler until they didn’t…
The US Army War College thinks war with Russia could cause 3600 casualties per day. They would have to have a massive draft. This would be catastrophic and probably lead to nuclear war.
Exactly, and the Army War College added that the US Army would lose 50,000 men in the first two weeks. That’s more than we lost in ten years in Vietnam!
Good point Lulu. Can you imagine a draft in spoiled brat America? Blacks will say hell no, we ain’t dying for you mfers. Whites will say hell no, you have told us since 2008 we are racist pieces of shit, we ain’t going into your woke Army. The homosexuals, freeks, cross dressers and trannies will say hell no, we didn’t sign up to fight, just to make a political point. And every draft age female will suddenly get pregnant. And to top it off every politicians relative will get a deferment. It’s laughable we can fight a war, let alone win one. The west is collapsing, going down faster than Bill Clintons pants at an intern convention.
People who can be led to believe “My Body, My Choice” does not conflict with vaccine mandates can be led to believe anything.
I agree most Americans are against the idea of a war with Russia. I agree most of the groups you mention would not want to fight for the reasons you assign to them. But if the pandemic taught us anything, there is an enormous group of people who hold beliefs not because they believe in them, but because society identifies them as the “correct” beliefs to hold. These people have no inner core. They possess what I call Referred Values. These values are malleable; because they have been implanted from external sources rather than developed internally, they can be swapped out and replaced.
This makes such people extremely susceptible to manipulation and propaganda, and that makes them extremely dangerous to common sense and self-preservation. I would not underestimate their numbers.
Prescient observation.
Love it.
Not probably! Nuclear War is for certain
UK’s goal all along.
NONE of our business.
Point of order. I rise to move that the year 2023 be deemed 2024, and that the presidential election will therefore take place just over one month from today. And once a winner is declared, that date will be deemed to be Jan 20th, 2025, and the winner will immediately take office.
Again, I rejoin the observation…
Where is the tried true boiletplate ‘red scare’ fear in the main stream press?
You know the stuff of the past fifty years of tried true.
Seriously, at the moment of the hottest, of the hottest high stakes shooting war.
And there is
Zillich, notcha, nothing.
OMG…WTF…
Only realistic take away.
The mover and shakers are all operating from the same page.
The is stink is not in Denmark, the stink is so much worst.
There is a sellout in the works.
Just remember, “There is much truth to the observation.”
In order the preserve the lies being told here, murder is the order of the day over there.”
Sad, truly sad.
All made in our name…
And if you don’t think these f’ers will not stop at hanging the onerous of the their pre-destined sellout on us, the political conservative grass roots.
Well, what can I say!
This is big league plays.
All designed from the get go to hang guilt.
The sixty four dollar question, is and remains just who’s quilt
I ask one very simple question?
A question that unravels on this…
Please note the absence of any and all talking points both in MSM and any counter valing opposition.
There is absolutely no, and do mean zero, ” Equation of the relationship of the perfect phone call as relates to PDJT second impeachment and Bidend’s stinking high corruption.
Seriously!!!
The inquiry is very simple, and matter of public record..
Just how many of the Podesta NGO vetted politicians that ran on the 2014 Orange Revolution Ticket turned out to be strawmen for the bums the Ukrainians just threw out of office.
That is in my opinion a very revealing question/observation!!!
IF we have WW111 it won’t be fought with soldiers – or tanks or planes. – it will be one Nuke to destroy the world. One Nuke and another and another. I am sickened to hear Putin is the only adult in this situation. His soldiers are dying by the thousands, Ukraine soldiers dying by the thousands and now possibly Brits going the death squad. The thought of American young men dying over this needless war. There is no way illegals will join they will destroy America by staying put in their new digs. Lindsey Graham saying the only good soldier is a dead soldier as he grinned across the table from ilk. Praising Putin is repulsive. Young men being slaughtered and families destroyed sickens humanity. I look at the Cross and ask God , was it worth it for your Son to die. God help us
How is the U.S. Intelligence apparatus using RFK jr.?
I
JFK Jr. Running as independent will take away anti-establishment votes from Trump in the contested states.
I mentioned this planned escalation under the Neil Oliver monologue. We get no vote on this, no say-so about this, but when I read this story (I read the Guardian version) I was very, very angry at the hubris of the western elites.
The Guardian story goes a lot further than sending just boots on the ground. It points to their real aim in this. It is, of course, as I have said several times before, Crimea and Sevastopol, the Russian Black Sea fleet – Russia’s only warm water port (that doesn’t freeze in winter so is year round capable.
The British defense minister hinted that they would send ships to accompany Ukrainian grain ships because the Black Sea is international waters. (Of course, much of Ukrainian grain and the infrastructure for shipping it belongs to BlackRock, Cargill, and other multinational corporations.) He is also encouraging the British defense company BAE to start industry inside Ukraine.
The most telling line that the defense minister said, “…freedom isn’t free. You have to pay for it and it also keeps us prosperous.” (my emphasis)
In addition, France said that it was doing surveillance over the Black Sea. The US regularly has Global Hawk drones going back and forth surveilling Crimea for hours and planes in Romania which are surveilling the Ukrainian border.
The buzzards are circling and circling and circling….Russia will not lose. They are prepared.
“Now do you see the context for the U.S. intelligence apparatus to manipulate everything about the 2024 election, including the use of RFK Jr?”
No. I do not see RFK jr., of all people, as a tool of the CIA / intelligence apparatus, and I suspect I never will.
This statement doesn’t say that RFK, Jr is directly acting on their behalf or in collusion with them, but the intelligence services will use him and everyone around him to manipulate the outcome of the election.
Who do you think has manipulated the Democrat Party policies that blocked RFK, Jr. from any chance in a Democrat primary? I am sure that Obama, Clinton, Eric Holder, and their whole cabal are working on it. The intelligence services are intertwined with this cabal and were hoping that RFK, Jr. would get frustrated enough to run as an independent, once they saw that he was attracting GOP donors.
Sorry if I missed a writeup of RFK Jr’s connection with the CIA… can someone direct me to whatever came before linking them?
Possibly because running as an independent RFK2 would take votes from Donald Trump and not Newsom.
I understand the concern but think many Democrats would flock to vote for Newsom especially older Democrats who remember JFK and Bobby Kennedy.
Anyway that’s the question.
He has no connection to the CIA. Frankly it’s beyond obvious.
Will they stage a fake nuclear event and lock us down due to fake radiation fallout that we can’t see?
Will they use this to stop elections?
Why are we worried about Ukraine when China is in Cuba? Lmao.
Why are we worried about China in Cuba? China has no interest in controlling the world and they just recently put out a whole official statement on their position. It is because that is the purpose of the United States – to control the world – that Americans are easily persuaded that that is also the aim of China.
China has its own long plans too.
The American Rasputin, Henry Kissinger, put China on a path of global domination by duping Nixon, and put the West on a path of self-destruction by creating the WEF via Klaus Schwab.
Stupid war drumming against China by China Joe serves only China, it justifies China’s moves to consolidate its position and environs, constituting a threat justifying military moves they’d likely not otherwise make.
However, China does have global ambitions, the New Silk Noose is intended to encircle the globe, and is drawn right across the North American continent. Their spycraft and political compromise and physical acquisition of American soil and assets far eclipses anything the Soviets ever managed. They have inherited all the schemes of the various sects of the Communist Conspiracy and are exercising them with great skill. They have outlined their intents on numerous occasions, but, as with most menaces over the horizon, Americans have ignored the reality.
Physical war is not the answer, Donald Trump is the answer. Only the expansion of healthy Economic Nationalism can create sufficiently independent and wealthy countries that can resist China’s entreaties to succumb to its various schemes and debt traps.
America’s obsession with hyper-hegemony even in the face of its own economic collapse is destabilizing the entire globe and China is picking up the pieces, this is the very purpose of encouraging the West to suicide itself.
There has been a 900% increase of military aged Chinese men crossing the United States Southern border since January 2023. More than 3,500 illegal Chinese Nationals..
Indeed.
China views the US as Europe views Ukraine, a breadbasket, vital to their survival.
Sure, they played merchantilist, stripped our wealth and industry to build themselves up, but we are about tapped out, squeezed dry and collapsing, when all we can offer is soil and toil, they will act; they’ve spoken of this goal and how they will use genetic weapons to accomplish it.
An official statement from China??? No, China believes that “Everything Under Heaven” belongs to them and that America must be sanitized and replaced by their people.
You can’t be serious…Chicom missiles just off the coast of Florida would not be a good thing.
I’m surprised you trust Xi so much.
Prof Mearsheimer on Ukraine War
“One analogy that’s occurred to me is that perhaps Putin wants to turn Ukraine into the Gaza of Eastern Europe. If he does, Ukraine will become as “attractive” to NATO as Gaza is to, say, Egypt or the Arab world. Putin need not engage in a protracted occupation to do that. He can just imitate Israeli strategy since 2005.
You say that a state doesn’t fall apart simply because it’s raided by a foreign military. Well, what if it’s occupied-from-afar as Gaza has been? Gaza exists in a state of limbo between occupation and non-occupation. The Israelis maintain no garrisons or troops within Gaza, but surround it and effectively control it–and have destroyed it in the process. (They invade from time to time, but never for long.) The Gazans voted for Hamas, so you could say that they’re unified in their animosity for Israel, and unified in their nationalist zeal. But does it really matter? I don’t see how. The Gazans don’t have the weaponry to prevail against Israel, Neither do the Ukrainians against Russia.”
I don’t know if Mearsheimer would agree with that, but that’s my interpretation of his thesis: the Russian invasion of Ukraine is Putin’s version of Operation Cast Lead, and Ukraine is his version of Gaza. It’s primarily a wrecking operation, and only secondarily, if that, anything else.
Putin has stated clearly the goals are to de-nazify and de-militarize all of ukraine
There are always those who think a small cadre of important, wealthy people rule the world.
I have heard that nonsense for years.
They would like to but they have never been able to pull it off.
The world has been in upheaval from the beginning of time with jealousy and hubris and gigantic egos refusing to cooperate and leaders stabbing each other in the back and double crossing one another.
The craziness we are watching comes from elites in complete panic because they actually have no plan they can implement.
Nobody could “cash in” on a thermonuclear war. How would that happen? A massive part of the world would be uninhabitable. The wealthy would need people to serve their needs. Where? Inside deep mine shafts (ala “Dr. Strangelove”)? Billions of peasants might be sick and dying of radiation poisoning. Is that their idea of a utopia to rule over?
Who wants to rule a radioactive ash heap of a world?
Keep in mind what Sundance has just said, “The people at the top are not as smart as you are.”
They are NOT “smarter than a fifth grader.”
Even your local town council cannot find agreement on any local plan.
Look at the wealthy donors who thought DeSantis could be shoehorned into the presidency with millions of dollars behind him. It has turned into a complete failure.
The globalists have a “Humpty Dumpty” world before them where all the king’s horses and all the king’s men have no hope of putting anything practical together.
Just look at how the Left runs a major city. American cities have become ungovernable and increasingly violent and dangerous places.
“The craziness we are watching comes from elites in complete panic because they actually have no plan they can implement.”
People like to draw comparisons between current times, whatever the current time happens to be, and the years before both world wars.
What people who do this often fail to take into account, however, is how the great powers lost control over events. This is especially true of the first war. Each great power had plans. Each great power tried to follow those plans. But the by the time of the July Crisis the international system had grown too complex for any of them to control.
Some of them, or at least powerful factions within some of them, may have wanted war. But none of them wanted a war which lasted four years, killed fourteen million people, bankrupted or destroyed every one of them, and led to an even more horrible war a generation later. The people in control of things had been in control of things for so long, that they had no ability to adapt when they were no longer in control of things. They probably did not even have the awareness they were no longer in control of things. Until it was too late.
And that, of all the many parallels I see between our current times and those currents times, is the greatest and the most dangerous.
The danger lies not in the elites wanting to rule a radioactive ash heap, but in their blindness to such a future and thus an innate inability to avoid it.
“When the Soviets fortified Sevastopol in 1941, it heralded the beginning of a period of intense fighting over the Crimea. In this remarkable work, acclaimed author Robert Forcyzk assembles new research to investigate the intense and barbaric fighting for the region in World War II, where first Soviet, and then German armies were surrounded and totally obliterated.”
Where the Iron Crosses Grow: The Crimea 1941–44 (General Military)
Comparisons explain a lot!
Makes you wonder how people so stupid made so much money that they could throw away millions of dollars on a loser like DeSantis when they had someone as intelligent, competent and overwhelmingly popular as Donald Trump???
their thought process is -“it will not happen to us” “we will be at the top of the heap and be safe”
I have been asking since Jan 2020, if the globalists kill off half or more of the worlds population with a virus or an immune system killing vax, who will clean their swimming pool, deliver their food, fix their plumbing, run the water treatment plan and pick up the garbage? They are not smarter than a 5th grader and cant see that there will be No One to serve them.
Whenever narrative control over the war on covid was losing steam, the fraud cabal would announce a new variant.
This media announcement from the UK is the equivalent of that, just a different hoax. ‘war in ukraine’
They can do this indefinitely until will wake up and stop feeding the narrative.
There is no pandemic and there is no war. Smokescreens for new world order.
Lol Vladimir Putin: “Let them try”
Drip, drip, drip, BOOM!
I happened to peruse some yahoo comments on the passage of this bill, and hundreds, maybe thousands, of commenters seemed to agree quite vehemently that it is vital that the US keep supporting Ukraine. They were as passionate about what a great bipartisan job McCarthy did as we are passionate that he undermined the country by passing another CR.
I can’t understand where these people are coming from, but I can see that the abyss between the way we think and the way they think is an unbridgeable chasm.
They are captives of the MarxMerdia.
Very possibly also AI bots and operatives.
Furthermore, I consider that the Derp State must be destroyed.
I can’t help thinking about the metaphor that Nero fiddled while Rome burned.
Ugh.
Can’t.
Not bad for a Litvak.
Tucker Carlson: 2024 Won’t Be Trump vs. Biden, Warns It’s About to Get Serious
Tucker Carlson predicted Thursday that the general election will not be between President Joe Biden and former President Donald Trump, and he’s probably right.
Biden is “senile,” Carlson said during a speech at an Intercollegiate Studies Institute event in Wilmington, Delaware. He added that he’s not trying to be mean, but that it’s “just true.”
Carlson pointed out that Biden is presently losing in the polls to Trump, despite Democratic prosecutors indicting Trump four times on 91 felony counts.
“They’ve done everything they can by legal means — which are in fact extra-legal means if we’re being totally honest, completely Third World stuff — to take the opponent out of the race, and they’re still losing,” he said.
This will be forced. These issues will be forced. Soon. It’s about to get very serious. Everything is at stake. What wouldn’t they do? What haven’t they done? How will you prepare yourself?”
“By the way, if it’s [California Gov.] Gavin Newsom, we all should be very, very concerned. That guy’s scary and I mean it.”
“These issues will be forced soon. … The road from here to November of 2024 is going to be filled with developments nobody in this room could foresee. I can promise you that,” Carlson said.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/09/watch-tucker-carlson-says-2024-wont-trump-vs/
Dear Senator:
We have asked you four (4) times what America’s strategic national interest in Ukraine is and you and your office staff have ignored our question four times. For the fifth time, what is America’s strategic national interest in Ukraine? The war in Ukraine is a regional dispute. America has absolutely no business interfering in that dispute. (Note: you cannot say America is promoting democracy when President Zelensky cancels elections, shuts down churches and makes Ukraine a safe haven for Nazis and Fascists. That’s hardly a country ready to embrace “democracy.”)
Keep in mind, if you cannot answer our question then you have absolutely no business voting to send American taxpayer money to prop up a corrupt Fascist regime – the most corrupt country in the world. You also should not be a U.S. Senator and you should resign immediately.
Senator it is time you took our question more seriously before you get us all killed funding a war America (and the West i.e., NATO) cannot possibly win and that is ripe for escalation to nuclear Armageddon. America will lose any armed conflict (conventional, nuclear or both) with Russia. Remember, we do not have the industrial capability to make enough arms and ammunition because members of Congress gave our industrial capacity and jobs to third world countries decades ago. That’s just one of a few hundred very good reasons why we need to get out of Ukraine and stay out, Senator.
For the fifth time, what is America’s strategic national interest in Ukraine, Senator? If you don’t know and don’t care enough to find out then please resign and let someone else who cares enough to find out the answer to our question serve the People of _____.
We await your thoughtful written response.
Sundanceism: Being courteous, respectful and considerate for their role, does not mean you have to dumb yourself down or consider yourself subservient to their view.
The thought of our
government determining
what information we
can read, watch and hear
should be sending shivers
up the spine of every
American.
Me, it’s like an ice bath…
I keep seeing more and more
of what appears to be the
re-writing of History by
politicians and those in the
Biden Administration and
other Country Leaders.
Are they All that Stupid?
Or do they think we are all
that Stupid?
1984 was supposed to be
a warning-not a how-to
book.
I am not the only one seeing
it…
Tony Blinken, Boris Johnson, Justin Trudeau Prove the Great Sam Cooke Was Wrong – A Son of the New American Revolution 👆👆click above to read. Larry Johnson. Sonar 21
I don’t think he even mentions the
implication by EU Ursula Vanderlying
during a recent speech….that Russia
dropped the A bomb on Japan.
How frightened and insecure the sheepish public servants in Washington DC and the U.S driven NATO military forces would feel if Tucker interviewed Putin.
I’d watch that, on a loop!
I think Sundance is quite right, and it is frightening. This is a repeat of 1914. Some idiots are certain that we will have an oh, such a lovely war.
And everything is supposed to happen by stealth. The one British paper who had this news on the top on their webpage, Telegraph, ran with the headline: “Grant Shapps to ramp up support for Volodymyr Zelensky”, followed by in small font “UK to boost training for Ukrainian soldiers and Navy may help protect grain vessels”. In the Guardian you have to go far down the page and look for news related to Ukraine: “British troops to be deployed in Ukraine to train soldiers for the first time, says defence secretary”. You would be hard pressed to find any mention of this in the Daily Mail among all the important news about celebrities, sport stars, some politics, and of course masses of feminine pulchritude, but if one goes for News, far down the page is a headline: “Britain will increase support for Ukraine with a training programme for Kyiv’s troops under new plans, Grant Shapps reveals”. The Sun is even more of the above, and there I cannot even find a mention of Grant Shapps and the “training in Ukraine”.
So once again England is asleep.
Not so, though, everywhere in the rest of the world. This news made the headlines in Swedish online-newspapers already yesterday evening, and in the German Die Welt is says under Latest News: “Britain plans to station troops in Ukraine”. However, Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung is only interested in the fact that the House of Representatives sent a bill without Ukraine funding to the Senate yesterday, and the more lefty Sueddeutsche Zeitung is also only interested in more of your dollars to Ukraine.
In France Le Figaro had as top news the fact that PDJT had been nasty to ol’Biden and as second piece “Who is Matt Gaetz, the mini-Trump who poisons the republicans”.
So, there you have it!
Most, if not all, the western mainstream media world, is playing along.
Oh, what a lovely war!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynEWZF1bkLQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_LhOO6Q6p8
Updates:
1) Noted Sundance’s post above. Telegraph initially had a tougher headline which was eventually changed to the one I quoted.
2) From the Swedish daily Expressen, at the end of its piece on the British Defence Minister:
“Shapps’ announcement comes a day after France revealed that its air force had begun surveillance operations over the Black Sea.”
Wonderful video, I’ll make a man out of you! Oh, what a lovely war. Thank you Mikgen.
We have no ground US combat troops in Ukraine. We may have some helping with targeting, some doing maintenance, and some operating anti air, even some independent mercenaries dumb enough to go but no US combat troops doing actual fighting.
Someone posting something on twitter or the NY Times reporting 14 Americans killed doesn’t change that.
Why, Sundance, would RFK knowingly do anything to help the CIA and IC??
He wouldn’t.