This is John Galt level government targeting. A New York State judge has arbitrarily ruled, no trial – no jury, that President Trump overvalued his real estate holdings in New York, which means he paid too much in taxes, in order to secure financing and loans. [Ruling PDF HERE]
All the banks and lenders did their own due diligence on the financing. All operational loans and business loans were paid back. There were no defaults or banking interests adversely impacted. There are no victims of what the State calls “fraud,” yet the judge is ruling the Trump organization must dissolve all business interests in the state and exit within 10 days.
New York Attorney General Latisha James campaigned for office with promises to target the Trump Organization and Donald Trump himself. This is malicious lawfare in the extreme.
NEW YORK – […] As part of his ruling, the judge canceled the business certificates of all of the defendants, which include the Trump Organization itself and numerous LLCs connected to the company, as well as the business certificates of any entity “controlled or beneficially owned by” Trump, his adult sons, the Trump Organization’s former chief financial officer Allen Weisselberg and company executive Jeffrey McConney.
Engoron ordered that within 10 days of the ruling, Trump and the other defendants must provide names of potential independent receivers “to manage the dissolution of the canceled LLCs.” (read more)
President Trump responded via his Truth Social account.
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…. he paid too much in taxes….
And he’s getting penalized?
You can not make this s– up!!! This is the pinnacle of clown world. Even when you give these people more taxes, they still hate you. Amazing.
Oh, there is method in their madness…..like forcing the devaluation of properties so that elitist cronies can pick them up cheap at the inevitable fire sales.
An approach honed and perfected by Herman Goering….
Bingo, Sir!
Oh, almost sorta, kinda, maybe, surely like UKRAINE, am I right Larry F. et al?
This will not stand and the judge knows it will not stand. This is intended to be “affirming” of the leftist [voter] world view.
This gamble was a miscalculation on the part of NYC political actors. As Bongino points out, things are “bad enough” quite yet, but they are getting very very close to it. This move brings “bad enough” much closer than before.
well getting out of NY might not be so bad. Put it all in kids names
Rush Limbaugh sold all his NY property and moved to Florida. Every time he went to NY they put him through an audit.
Actually, they continued to audit him every year. Every time he went to NY they taxed him $150,000 per day. He stopped going to NY, obviously, but in the audits he had to prove via multiple documentations that he had not physically been in NY.
Just distraction, again.
He did when he became pres, they also included the kids other than Ivanka.
These really are the dumbest people on planet earth! Name me one bank who is going to issue a loan to an organization based on said organizations opinion on the value of their collateral. Guarantee the banks have documentation of their appraised value of property in question.
Not dumb. Resolute and dishonest.
Need to send some guys to talk with the judge and explain it real good to him
we are about at that point unfortunately
Peppermint should be available
REAL GOOD!
I WOULD BEG TO GO WITH SOME OF THOSE GUYS!!! (yes I shouted this)
Presented in jest, of course 🤞🤞🤞
We need the Mafia back.
Send mr burns’ hired goons
These AG’s aren’t smart enough to boil water. Where are the cowards hiding behind their names? That’s the shadow mafia everyone should be focused on, not street slugs like James.
I’m pretty sure you mean they’re so stupid they can burn water.
Either or
You attack what you fear and when that fear is real as MAGA represents the end of the criminal enterprise State & Federal that is our government, they become overt and sloppy.
These are wannabe dictators finally showing who and what they are. if you’re old enough to remember 60’s radicals, think of an Abbie Hoffman, Jerry Rubin, Bill Ayers et al becoming judges, this is what it looks like “the ends justify the means – If it feels good do it – stick it to the man”.
Be certain “Nothing is off the table”.
All JEWS?!
I used to live in NY saw the handwriting on the wall and got the hell out of Dodge. They were the worst.
Once Trump pulls out after his appeal NYC will totally collapse.
People like him made Manhattan the jewel that it was. Eff em!!
No.
“Steal this book.”
I read it when I was a kid…ridiculous, but they are serious.
President Trump already doesn’t own a single business in New York. He transferred ownership to his sons when he was elected in 2016:
“Trump to turn over business empire to his children”
-CNN 11/11/2016
True – but it’s still an outrageous move by the
Judgecommie bastard! DJT has been in real estate all his adult life. This hurt!It’s not about him, it’s about the Trump Organization, so the ownership doesn’t matter.
I believe they were included other than Ivanka.
She and Jared hanging with the lefties, dining with Bezos and his girlfriend in South Beach. The Manhattan mindset. She couldn’t take the heat, and her husband is a cuck.
It isn’t going away until we make it go away.
Make it permanent!
The only way to do that would be quite sporty and many people are way to squeamish to go there. Elections have been and will be rigged. Judges are being appointed based on their political donations. AGs are abusing their power. Yet most Conservatives just stare and pray that somehow, it will all get better.
Two Quotes:
‘And when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object, evince a Design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their Right, it is their Duty, to throw off such Government and provide new Guards for their future security.’
‘The Tree of Liberty must be watered from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants’
All this good man has done was to try to make America great again. The lawlessness and unfairness, and corruption of this and so many other rulings is all the evidence you need to know that they aren’t about to give up control of the government at the ballot box.
If and when Trump gets elected, I’ll savor the Karma that gets dished out! If nothing else, Trump is exposing how politics is played, for the general public! There is no longer a “D” or an “R” as we knew it years ago. The “D” is woke and the “R” is Conservative. I have been exposed to the real meaning of woke! As far as I’m concerned, the Left can place that woke BS where the sun don’t shine, SIDEWAYS! Am I biased? Hell no, I’m educated!
R is not conservative, it is RINO.
Wow. They’re not even pretending to follow the laws anymore. They’re just making it up now. I suppose that shows just how scared they are but…I am increasingly concerned for 45/47.
I don’t think Stalin would believe this.
If we don’t learn to fight dirty like they do we will never defeat them.
Problem is when we fight dirty they have the entire media vanguard to whip up the populace that we are doing something illegal and wrong and unprecedented and dangerous, etc. etc. etc. They will cover it 24/7. And when you’re playing dirty and the spotlight calls out how you are being dirty , you have no defense, since you are.
The silence and or assurances by the media that Dem dirty play is all on the up and up is why they can get away with it.
Until we break the media monopoly and the whole concept of “unbiased mainstream news”….turnabout won’t work.
The only thing that will work , should he actually get back in the white house , is exactly what President Trump intends to do: in your face, no Fs given, Constitutionally based Executive prerogative driven full house cleaning and prosecution of all these criminals in the executive branch and dismantling many executive branch departments.
but that requires our elections to be fair to get him in, which they aren’t, so around and around to no where we go.
This will not stand. It will fall on it’s head like the a** that proclaimed it to be so, and the Judge should be relieved of their judgeship, permanently.
I have tho’t for some time that there is a bounty for anyone (plural) who can rake President Trump over the coals legally. Just like they were willing to pay a bounty for made up dirt. This is just more made up dirt.
I also feel that during the plandemic they shut down travel specifically to hurt the Trump family who amazingly owned a plethora of hotels and event venues.
George Soros – and his son – are desperate, just like the rest of the UniParty elites because we see through them and want nothing that they have to offer.
A Kritarchy will only last for the duration of that particular judge’s appointment.
Impeachment and disbarment should be undertaken.
A Kakistaucracy appointing judges leads to the destruction of our Republic.
One political party is at war with the other in this country. It is a damn shame that the other isn’t putting up a fight at all.
You act like there are actually TWO political parties in this country–like there are Democrats and Republicans. That’s where you’re wrong! There is ONE party–the UNIPARTY (as Sundance calls them), and they’re BOTH ON THE SAME TEAM!
A huge problem exists.
It was certainly known in 2015 who and what constituted the Deep State/Uniparty.
Why was the strategic decision made in 2015 to join the battle through the structure and artifices of the Republican Party?
Eight years wasted.
The question is much larger than PDJT’s fortunes or the injustices he and his family have suffered – those are the consequences, partially, of a faulty strategy. Difficulties notwithstanding, the decision to coopt rather than confront the Republican apparatus from the outset had a pre-determined fate when viewed from the planning dimension of time. There were some fundamental misunderstandings about power – who held it and how it could be deployed.
Expedience? Misjudgment? Unknown variables at the time? Faulty risk assessment? Time constraints? Other objectives at the time? A perception that governance would not be possible without the administrative and Congressional resources of the Republican Party?
Where does all this sit now? Has the strategy adjusted to confront and overcome the reality of the situation?
The magic floating numbers, 70 million, 81 million, now over 100 million – what do those numbers really represent? Putting aside the actual metric, what is the substance of this bloc? Is it a unified, consistent set of values, objectives and goals? Or is it an ideologically heterogenous mix unified in opposition to the observable extra-legal actions and self-declared undemocratic/freedom squelching plans of empowered conspirators? At the end of the day, long-term success, the real coopting, consists in converting/convincing sufficient numbers of what many on this board label the sheep – the uninformed, ideologically blinded – into an altered world-view; into understanding the deeper values and outcomes at stake for them personally as well as the country. These people are not the enemy, as many seem to think. This view shaping cannot happen while hosted by the apparatus/controls of the very people and interests who oppose it in the first place.
The strategy really needs to be reassessed: both for a frank assessment of results thus far and for honest assessment of long term probabilities. TPTB know this – that is why they are fighting so furiously now, so abusively and crudely, to shutter the available avenues outside the two party system.
There is only one party and a handful of patriots with whom the uniparty is at war. We err in thinking that the GOP is in opposition to the Democrat party. The majority of them are just fine with maintaining the status quo.
There is ONLY one party and we ain’t in it!
We have devolved back to the wild west days when a valid defense was “He needed killin.”
Oh, if only!
Not yet, we haven’t.
When the major political/corporate/media faces, and the background people supporting them, start mysteriously dropping off right after a stunt like this judge’s ruling, then one can say we’ve returned to the frontier justice of the “wild west” days.
Until then, if they get away with it, the only thing “wild west” about this is the UniParty’s ability to get away with the Old West lawlessness. The kind seen in the old mining boom towns, where the connected could literally get away with theft of land and murder to acquire land and power.
Come to think of it…the more things “changed” into our modern world…the more things have stayed the same.
Almost
It will get appealed… Meanwhile, the headline runs in today’s paper and gives ammo to The Uniparty to promote the Spurious Incumbent…
U commies need to be executed!
President Trump should move his money out of the United States because it is not safe here. The next step is for the government to freeze and confiscate everything he owns.
And the safest countries for him to put his money is somewhere beyond the US government’s reach – hmmmm.
That’s like, only one/two/three place in the world probably, and that’s Iran, North Korea and perhaps the Congos. Maaaaaaybe Brunei’s rich Sultan…
He could buy his own country.
Maybe Saudi Arabia, Heads would explode!
New York Judge-isn’t that a synonym for CROOK?
Welcome to Blue State America, run by Marxists.
Even in NY they had to recognize it’s illegal to pass a law which targets an individual, but a crackpot Marxist judge can do whatever they like.
Firstly, the ‘Judge’ and the AG are severely abusing their power and no-one on the Left cares. The first question that should come to mind is: ‘If they can do this why should I trust the legal system?’
Secondly, how many jobs and how much money will this drain from the state? He overpaid his taxes. The employees have to number in the thousands and the loss of their salaries would impact the local economy.
Thirdly, all bills were paid, all obligations met. Where is the crime? Is being Trump (or just Joe and Jill Conservative) now officially a crime? If so, say so and let the ball begin.
First answer – they don’t want your trust…they want your fear and to be intimidated by them. They want you to know they will come for YOU if YOU stand up like Trump has. Trust is eroded on purpose.
Second answer – They don’t care how many jobs and money get drained from the state. This allows them to control the masses left jobless and destitute via state economic enslavement. This, to ensure none of the rabble get powerful enough to threaten their power and wealth.
Third answer – Yes, being Trump (and thinking like him) is now a crime. To be specific, being Trump with a sense of patriotism and justice, shunning the amoral corruption, and wishing the best opportunities and outcomes for the common man, are capital crimes against the State.
They’ve been saying this for the last seven years – ever since Trump won in a “surprise” victory. This judge’s ruling is yet another such statement.
If one is waiting for an exact word-for-word statement, one will be slow-cooked and re-located to a gulag before one is satisfied they can get the ball rolling.
I’ll submit that the ball is already beginning to roll. It just doesn’t yet have the kinetic energy nor momentum to be significantly noticed. It is getting the energy going to overcome American inertia that is the current issue.
An Old White Guy some generations back spoke to this when he penned these words to the founding document to our country:
“Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.”
We are still thinking the evils are sufferable right now, because we know what the second sentence really means – and we are conditioned that this is not a “nice”, “moral”, or “Christian” avenue to pursue.
Who defined that? They same ones causing the suffering….
Looks like if thy like the look of your prototype they can come up with some reason to take it from you. That is exactly the way our country is headed.
Hope this posts – the pic of the ahole who did this!
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Engoron rhymes with moron.
Convicted by a cadaver!
The crows are going to get so fat, they won’t be able to fly..
NO MERCY
Yes we should be long done using the term socialism. It pops up every so often. Even liberalism. This is communism you see. And if this beast gets total control it will be very bad. Your neighbor may be a liberal. But there are no socialists or liberals in government. The So called Democrats are are all commies. Not to mention institutions like colleges and of course the media. And if they totally take over we will see how little regard they have for human life.
As I tell these commies in debates. Please quit hiding behind the donkey. Step out into the sunlight
How can this judge not be disbarred and criminally charged?
This judge has committed a crime; Theft by Judicial Fiat under color of authority. He, Letitia James and every participant in this unending persecution of Donald J. Trump must be removed from office, defrocked, disbarred and banned from ever practicing law or holding any office of trust in The United States of America.
Deportation or unlimited incarceration as enemy combatants.
But who is going to do that when nearly half of the country is either ok with it or doesn’t understand the issue.
A great reckoning is coming. It won’t be pretty, but it is necessary. The “Time of Choosing” has arrived and Donald J. Trump has been chosen to lead us to a great victory for America and the world. MAGA!
Good grief, the corrupt justice systems of this nation can and will do this to each and everyone of us. I expect to have jack booted thugs at my door every night due to this corruption just for being on this site. We are guilty even after being found innocent unless one toe’s the leftist line.
Someone just made a point on Twitter about RDS not addressing this…he is letting an arbitrary judge in NYC make an assessment of RE values in Palm Beach the highest RE valued area in the state…that has basically brought not only those values down but the rest of the state…this has some pretty big potential ramificaitons…maybe not in reality (who knows) but DEFINITELY in perception…as usual our Gov says jack crap about it…so now as a Florida resident my potential RE value has declined (again, reality/perception?) either way why isn’t my gov saying anything about it? oh yeah, so blinded by his ambition (and his wifes) to be in the white house he once again sells his state down the river…the anger in Florida now is palpable from residents…
What she does not realize is: If they “destroy him, never to rise again”. We all become Spartacus.
The collateral damage will be immense.
President Trump, we’ve got ‘em on the run…
Hit ‘em again, hit ‘em again!
Harder, harder!
Push ‘em back! Push ‘em back!
Way back, way back!
Farther, farther!
Faster, faster!
Push ‘em completely off of the field!
Their time has passed!
They lost the war with President Trump and his MAGA / America First movement,
And now the world knows it.
God Bless President Trump, his family and supporters and the USA!
Let’s go Brandon and the democrats and the GOPe!”
Jack Ma says, “Welcome to the club.”
And everyone just goes about their business as though we still have a rule of law in America.
This is going to have repercussions that the Democrats don’t understand and that I don’t even understand:
“But above all he must refrain from seizing the property of others, because a man is quicker to forget the death of his father than the loss of his patrimony.”― Niccolò Machiavelli, The Prince
Machiavelli would never have written that without knowing and understanding the problems / enemies / blowback this kind of things creates. It is actually what triggered the emergence of BRICS, because of the Magnitsky Act and the seizure of other country’s reserve assets. I have a feeling the “blowback” is going to be immense in ways they have not even conceived of yet. This is going to bring a lot more people into the MAGA movement who never even considered it before. IMHO
I remember the days when I would actually weigh the differences between Democrats and Republicans and cast my vote accordingly. Now I will NEVER vote Democratic (or RINO Republican) for the rest of my life. And I mean it.
Interesting post!
I got me a thinking that how, on a much less significant scale our Trudeau’s seizing of assets during the Canadians truckers rally’s.
Has affected Canadians perspective on our financial institutions.
Canadian Banks complied with Trudeau’s orders..our banks are no longer seen as a safe haven.
We will see, but conventional wisdom suggests that a major financial realignment is in the offing.
Yet folks here in our community continue to buy
“ dirt” that require an obscene mortgage.
I know a guy that is waiting for delivery on a hybrid SUV He is putting nothing down, and will pay for it over 84 months @ 7.5%
He rents, and earns about $100,000 ( Can) a year, and is closer to sixty than forty years of age.
Cheers!
True that. But consider something. If there were “blowback”, TPTB would love to have you arrested for owning a cell phone that pinged in the area of the ” blowback “.
These inglorious bastards can strip away Trump’s worldly goods but they can never strip away his resolve, his essence.
America First – Trump 2024!
Take a quick view – Letitia James on video 2018 – she’s gonna get Trump! WTF???!!!
https://x.com/realJoelFischer/status/1061397270527180800?s=20
They need housing for all those illegals.
Question. When talking about value of office space at 40 Wall street would the information exist on the value of the office space trump donated to Rainbow Push? How Rainbow Push valued it – assume they would need to since it is tax exempt? I remember the videos of Jesse giving Trump awards back in 98-99.
Trump is the first to get this kind of treatment and the leftist are in glee because he is a conservative.
Wait and you will see the additional IRS agents raise audits numbers to a level that no one will want to get into business unless you are a Democrat donor
Move all businesses and holdings to Florida or Texas. Tennessee or some other business friendly state, and take all your tax money with you.
If any employees wish to relocate, they can move with and take their tax money with them as well.
Screw those people. Hard.
Hmmm. Florida?
That’s a tough one. As a FL citizen who moved his family to escape unacceptable political realities, I can only share my experiences on what is unfolding in FL: the infrastructure is becoming overwhelmed; over- development is evident; increasing social tensions producing passive/aggressive behaviors; political uncertainty; incomplete assimilation of the large numbers of Norther tier political and/or economic refugees.
I get the escape part of all of this. I did it myself. But some thoughtful management is needed or it will prove to be a Trojan Horse.
Several of my snowbird friends are saying the same thing. Things are getting crowded and the aftermath of hurricanes are really hurting people, especially retires. And a sister to one of my friends sold last year and moved to one of the Dale Webb sections here in Indy. She was happy that she sold when she did because of the hurricane this year. It’s turning into a mess in some of the spots there. My friends who live in the Villages are content because they rarely leave the area. They have all they need in the Villages.
Your basic 15 minute city. Beware.
As a Florida Native I can tell you our infrastructure was overwhelmed long before you and your family got here. Rapid overdevelopment has been the name of the game since I was a toddler. The Leftpuke controlled population centers are teetering on the brink of total Californication. Rural Florida is being bought up by South Floridians and Commiefornian refugees making life unaffordable for the indigenous middle and lower classes.
Taven’t been able to develop any rural land here in SWFL for 20 years.
The county bought it up. No new homes built unless 1+ million$ in gated communities. None for good regular people. They need to burn out/cancel old mobile home parks full of old people first. First step is to raise mobile homes 5ft. in the air. This will make them completely airborne in 200 mph hurricane winds, in addition to tripling the number of steps up for 90 y/o’s to navigate. Second step – cancel home insurance.
That is a contraction of “they haven’t” = “Taven’t.”
I can appreciate that, Ma’am.
No argument from me! I have relatives who have lived in the state since the 1980s whom I visited annually so it was not an unknown.
I liken it to the next brick loaded on a growing pile.
Almost forgot: what about passive/aggressive behaviors? My belief is that these have noticeably escalated since Covid policy responses were politicized by the CDC, media and TPTB.
Agree, also Black Rock and it’s subsidiaries are going through communities and paying cash for houses, then rented out to ne’er do wells. I found this out living next door to a middle eastern “exchange student” who dropped three anchor babies within three years. The property is now in shambles devaluing all the surrounding properties.
Many of the same reasons I came to Fl in 84. Though we moved 4 years ago north of Tampa for the same reasons heavily overbuilt , roads not widened before properties are built, it was just too crowded.
Bullets sooner the better its got to start sometime
I truly never wish to see it, but fear we have gone too far this time and a civil war will happen.
If a million people mailed a large, red clown nose to his office, do ya think he’d get the message?
Pro’ly not.
Trump will win on appeal, he will sue and the Judge will be disbarred as will James. Under the constant stress from public criticism the crooked Judge will do himself in.
No. The FBI would be knocking on your front door wanting to charge you of harassment of a sitting Judge.
It looks like he was done in decades ago. Anyone check his pulse.
The last time I paid taxes on my property I did not get to value them. If we get to put a value on our own property I value mine at half can I now pay less next year in taxes?
Yessiree Bob!
Whoa… bet that NY judge received his orders yesterday just like Fani received her orders to file the suite against 19 in Georgia.
Thursday starts impeachment hearings and so much more has come out since it was scheduled. Dems (and Rinos) know they are in big trouble.
This is really dangerous territory, like trying to surround a Grizzly.
Stay focused !!!!!
Interesting, cannot find a photo online of this judge.
I was waiting for something like this when Menendez story came about.
Like clockwork.
They crushed the My Pillow guy too. How do we avoid Civil War?
In order to grant summary judgment in a civil case, which is what this judge did, there has to be no material fact in dispute. When one party claims property is worth X, and another claims the property is worth Y, that is the ultimate factual dispute and there has to be a trial. The judge went farther, and sanctioned each of Trump’s lawyers $7500 for arguing that there is no civil fraud without an actual loss, in other words, a victim. All loans were paid in full and no lender brought claims against Trump. So the lawyers are being sanctioned for making a “frivolous” argument when they are likely correct. The judge is absolutely out of control and hopefully an appeals court will step in. Trump has filed a claim against the judge personally, and that is pending.
Indeed, Trump should file a claim against “the judge, personally.” Because he is not acting as a Judge. He is acting unlawfully, and should be dismissed and disbarred.
I’m quite sure that no Federal or State judge has any real authority to make such a ruling. This is, at the very least, a “taking.” Trump’s real estate holdings in New York are worth hundreds of millions of dollars, and he and his companies cannot “simply, be told to get out.” Especially(!) since this would mean force-selling them to someone else who would be glad to have bribed a judge to let him, in effect, seize them.
You can only be found guilty of a crime, including fraud, if you are convicted of that crime in a trial by a jury of your peers. A judge has no power to “simply, decide for himself” that you have committed a crime, and punish you for the same.
Trump needs to go before his court of primary jurisdiction – the US Supreme Court – and finally put to rest the many “Lawfare” attacks against him. He was the President of the United States, exercising his Constitutional duty to “take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed,” clearly seeing that they were not. The Executive Branch is separate from both other Branches, and its occupant cannot be found guilty of any crime for exercising the Office as he alone sees fit. Enough is enough. This is a Constitutional matter which must be treated as such.
Why the hell did Trump’s attorney ask for a summary judgement? Is this what his representation pool has come to? I’m flabbergasted at what is happening. How can you sue when there is no victim? Didn’t we already go through and continue to see suits get tossed because of this, but because it’s Trump it’s different? If the part of this lawfare is make supporter’s despondent, the’ve succeeded in my case
Ummm, it’s standard practice in all cases to ask for summary judgment….lol. Do you even know what a summary judgment is?
Then explain it to me. Why would you ask for a biased judge to rule before trial and then complain on social media that said judge ruled against
Well, umm, because if the lawyer didn’t do his job properly, Trump could sue him and not pay any of his legal fees because, ummm, of malpractice.
I mean, if you were a lawyer, wouldn’t you protect yourself from malpractice? I mean, it’s just a logical thing to do.
You still didn’t answer my question. Why ask for a summary judgment? What was the wisdom in doing so?
lol. I answered your question twice. You just don’t like the answer because it’s not feeding your manufactured hysteria.
No you did not answer the question – you just said Trump could sue the attorney if he didn’t request summary judgment – WHY? Not everyone is an attorney. If there is a logical reason, why don’t you just tell us what it is?
No they didn’t. All I got was a holier than thou smart ass response
I said it’s standard practice to ask for a summary judgment. It’s called crossing your T’s and dotting your I’s so that the appeals court doesn’t come back to you later to say, hey, you idiot, you forgot this part, so I’m gonna refuse to hear your case on appeal because you suck at your job…..
All a summary judgment is, is a lawyer saying, Hey, Judge, there’s not enough evidence here, so let’s just call it a day and go home before we needlessly spend all that taxpayer money.
Asking for a summary judgment has really little to do with the case at all. On thousands of cases I witnessed, I can count on one hand the times a judge actually granted summary judgment, but they still have to do it, you know, to cross their T’s and dot their I’s…..
But the judge made just about the worst ruling possible against Trump. Is this basically to fast track the case through appeals?
“All a summary judgment is, is a lawyer saying, Hey, Judge, there’s not enough evidence here, so let’s just call it a day and go home before we needlessly spend all that taxpayer money.”
THIS is the answer that had been sought from the beginning of this insult-fest
does that men it is simliar to asking the judge to dismiss the case after the prosectuion has presented their case but before the defense presents a case (in a criminal trial)? always happens…never granted.
When did it become my job to explain his issues? You guys are capable of doing your own homework like I did mine.
No you didn’t. I asked why ask for a summary judgement and you responded that his lawyer was shielding themselves from malpractice. That is all well and good but didn’t answer my original question
my advice is not to depend on the retired, current or
otherwise, barroom lawyer opinions.
I am sure there is someone who will post
comments or links to the facts
Here you go:
https://dictionary.law.com/default.aspx?selected=2063
knock it off
and explain in laymen’s terms
this is not the forum to act all
holier than thou
In layman’s terms, summary judgment is when a party to a lawsuit, such as Trump or the State of NY here, asks the court to make a decision on the case without going to trial, after all relevant facts have been collected. The party arguing for summary judgment will attempt to convince the judge that trial is unnecessary because the facts of the case inarguably mean that their side has won, given the legal issues involved. Either party can request summary judgment. If you look at the court’s order linked to in the article above, you can see that it granted the State’s motion for summary judgment (in part) and denied Trump’s motion for summary judgment. The court agreed with some of the plaintiff’s reasons and not Trump’s. This likely had nothing to do with what decisions Trump or his legal team made on defense – if they had not moved for summary judgment, the State of NY still had, so the court would consider the State’s motion regardless. I am sure his legal team argued as hard and skillfully as they could against the State’s motion. I hope they will be vindicated on appeal. Sometimes it is all about getting into a better court setting.
MB, you need to grind it a bit finer. You could explain how asking for a summary judgment prevents malpractice suits for an attorney.
True, but in the context of the final stop which will near certainly be one (1) of the arguments arriving at the final stop at the house of the black robed monks of “scotus” and its somewhat plenary power to set aside lower court/s now mostly edicts/usurpat5ions as what . Used as tool component a wider plan/s based on a long list of things yet unknown. They need book any vacations and accrued time off, as if they need it, as for them it looks like they’re about to be asses and elbows relatively soon. Here is but one (1) example…
This is literally what TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome) looks like
And years of alcohol abuse. Whew!
you dont understand Trump. He doesnt settle things in a simple manner. He likes to expose the idiots for who they are so they dont come back
its my understanding you ask for a summary judgement when there are no issues to litigate before a jury. So given that, did the judge insist on the summary or was it asked for, and by whom? I dont know. All I know is that there are significant differences between the prosecution and defense that should be put to test in a jury trial. A company does not evaluate its own property. The County tax office does as does the Real estate market. What do the tax records indicate for that property? Get the Comps from the real estate companies from the city at that time. Somewhere between the comps and the property tax value, you get the value of your property to obtain a loan if thats what you need. This is a lack of standing issue, the state doesnt have it in this case unless the Trump organization wasnt paying enough in property taxes. The lenders are not complaining. They got their money with interest, all loans are paid. The judge’s interpretation of the value of Trump enterprise is incorrect. He is not in the position to determine value.
The judge accuses Trump of inflating the value of the property for the purpose of the loan but not to the idea taxes were not paid as to the value of the property. For that situation the Judge/State has a case only. For the loan it does not have a case, because the state was not harmed (and they aren’t complaining about that as their argument). It will be appealed and tossed.
The state is not harmed?
Fraud and criminally adjusted, high/low RE appraisals cause everyone to pay more.
The Org took on profits from deals then lowered valuation to avoid taxes.
**Wondering how there would/could be such discrepancy between Trump and individual condo/property owners and their own valuations at purchase and certainly at sale. **
Housing Crisis?
There was so much evidence that the judge didn’t have to go any further.
His record of won appeals is pretty low so I wouldn’t count on it.
Given what’s happening with SCOTUS, not sure they will be involved.
internal appraisals … no taxes are paid based on those … you tool …
Your wrong it says he paid more taxes read it again 🙄
When was the last time the taxpayer set their own tax rates? Ditto with loan appraisals.
Get a brain.
exactly the point I was going to make, it’s a simple misstatement, which Bobby Boi is apparently unaware of it ever happening, he read it on the internet.
i believe it’s known as reading for comprehension, one of the failures of the public school system.
he’d be better off doing something useful, like picking up trash on the public right of way.
shit finds it’s own level
That’s a good Fxxxxxg question. There is in my nefarious Irish, Polish, Italian ass mind likely one, maybe a combination of the following possibilities…. 1. part of a larger plan to bank the now plethora of Constitutional and State statutory violations already committed and those surely ahead. Basically a litany of arguments ultimately arriving before the black robed monks of “scotus”. I’m skipping the respective “appellate” circuits for cause obviously due to the respective jurisdictions (NYFC, Mordor on the Potomac, Atlanta) let alone criminality of local DA’s and their shot calling Dept. of Just-Us Unit: John Lumen aka Jack Smith. 2. Less likely (hopefully) simple incompetence which I and probably most here believe PDT wouldn’t tolerate to begin with let alone being what’s supposedly over $50M in legal fees. Not long ago state media stenography pools pushed two of Trump’s attorney’s leaving as “PROOF they knew he was guilty as indicted”. Another lie by omission as all were/are not licensed to proactice in every jurisdiction… and maybe ancillary reasons as yet unknown.
His lawyers didn’t. The Attorney General did. His lawyers objected.
its asking the judge to dismiss the case … its not asking the judge to rule on the case … which is what this idiot judge did …
My understanding in the state where I live that in civil matters summary judgment settles matters of law and trial settles factual disagreements. I do not know New York law but assume it is similar
Both sides asked the judge to grant summary judgment in their favor. Standard trial practice – particularly in non-jury trials. The judge denied Trump’s motion and granted James’. The two motions stand independent of each other but are mutually exclusive in outcome.
Trump, through his lawyers, waived his right to a jury trial. Not an unreasonable decision since the NYC jury pool comes from a population that voted more than 90% against Trump.
But instead of a jury who voted 90% against Trump they ask for summary judgement from of a judge who voted 100% against Trump. I understand there’s “lawyer logic” in that strategy but so far it hasn’t yielded anything positive in this case. Yes ,we may see the fruits of that logic IF the appeal is successful. Big “IF”…….
it’s a tough scenario. maybe they thought there was some honesty in the judge.
Google Trump EO and read what he wrote in them. Everyone involved in this will be donating all their assets, including Soros. Trump EO 13823