Obviously, we take all reports from Russian media through the prism of Suspicious Cat. Complicating matters, we take any/all reports from Western Media through the folded and mirrored prism of multiple Suspicious Cats. So don’t look for CTH to provide definitive analysis on this multi-geopolitical storyline; instead, look for me to share a series of possibilities that might not be discussed elsewhere.
As long-time readers know, I have a strong and reliable network in Peter (that’s the abbreviated name used in familiar Russian discussion with those who live in the Saint Petersburg region of Russia). I have previously discussed my opinion of the western media reporting on Yevgeny Prigozhin {Go Deep}, I will not repeat.
Dubya, Putin and Yevgeny Prigozhin the caterer.
Today, Russian media are stating that Prigozhin was killed in a plane crash after a series of meetings in Moscow, upon a return flight to Peter. Perhaps, or perhaps not. Given the nature of a very specific background in/around the issue(s) of Wagner and Prigozhin, and with both the Russian and USA geopolitical overlays as context, here are some possible considerations:
♦ Prigozhin completed his meetings in Moscow and was heading home to Peter when an unfortunate accident led to his plane crashing.
♦ Prigozhin completed his meetings in Moscow and was heading home to Peter when the Russian military leaders decided to kill him.
♦ Prigozhin completed his meetings in Moscow and was detained by Putin allies, then the return flight destroyed to disappear him.
♦ Prigozhin completed his meetings in Moscow and was returning to Peter when a successful retaliatory CIA operation killed him.
♦ Prigozhin completed his meetings in Moscow and organizing a defensive Wagner operation against NATO under the auspices of his death.
♦ Prigozhin completed his meetings in Moscow and is now very much alive and retired with no one looking for him.
♦ Prigozhin was never in Moscow and is very much alive and retired with no one looking for him. √
I’m sure the funeral will be quite superb.
(Via Fox News) Yevgeny Prigozhin, the founder of Russia’s Wagner Group who challenged the rule of Vladimir Putin just months ago, was involved Wednesday in a plane crash that has left 10 people dead outside of Moscow, state media is reporting.
The business jet was traveling from the Russian capital to St. Petersburg went it went down in the Tver region, according to the TASS news agency.
“Prigozhin was listed among the passengers, according to the Federal Air Transport Agency,” read a post by TASS on Telegram. “An investigation into the crash of the Embraer aircraft has been launched, the department noted.”
It’s not immediately clear whether Prigozhin is among the 10 reported to have died in the crash. The Pentagon told Fox News Digital that it is monitoring the situation.
“We have seen the reports. If confirmed, no one should be surprised,” White House National Security Council spokesperson, Adrienne Watson, said in a statement. “The disastrous war in Ukraine led to a private army marching on Moscow, and now – it would seem — to this.”
Putin, meanwhile, has made a public appearance at a concert in Russia after the news of the crash emerged.
In late June, Prigozhin initiated what observers called the most significant challenge to Russian President Vladimir Putin’s regime in his 23 years in power.
After marching his 25,000-strong mercenary forces to within 125 miles of Moscow, Prigozhin abruptly ended the operation and ordered his troops to return home before heading into exile in Belarus. (more) 👀 lol
Born in 1961, Prigozhin grew up as a somewhat snarky Soviet Robin Hood, a street urchin who flowed invisibly between Finland and Leningrad in a black-market social circle that, well, let’s just say I am familiar with.
When he was 20, Prigozhin was arrested for a heist and federally imprisoned for 9 years while the Soviet Union collapsed. When he exited prison Russia was different, and with St Pete now becoming a tourist destination, he joined the capitalist opportunity with a street food vending business, started a restaurant then opened a catering company.
Prigozhin is hard as nails, snarky as hell and very tricky.
He is one of the apex gremlins and very much still connected to the Peter streets, very connected. He is beloved. He was never connected to the towers of Russian politics as the West portrays. Prigozhin doesn’t have the pedigree nor the disposition for political power.
Let me put it this way, no one knows how to play gremlin mind games against the West better than Yevgeny Prigozhin. He’s a little bit like a less refined Oleg Deripaska, and much scruffier. Also remember, in February 2018, Prigozhin was one of 13 Russians indicted by Andrew Weissmann and Rod Rosenstein for interfering in the American election through the Internet Research Agency. lol
Review any definitive analysis with caution.
We’ll Meet Again,
Don’t know where, Don’t know when…
But I know we’ll meet again,
Some sunny Day……….
Dr strange putin?
Or, Prigozhin might pop up in Africa where some of his boys are working. Pipeline stuff and all that.
He was on video in Africa yesterday
Predicted to be in pres fox news debate?
Maybe his plane was brought down by Macedonian Content Farmers
Let’s ask Hillary – she claims to be an ‘expert’ on those baddies.
PLUS…he was arrested because of her!
With Elvis?
I think IF he is dead, it was the CIA.
If not, he and Putin have a new mission for him.
Btw, i always got the impression you had a little ‘Southern’ smuggler in you. “Making their way the only way they know how. But that’s just a little bit more than the law will allow.” Good ole boys!
Disagree, what’s the one permanent characteristic of the american political class? – they don’t want to be held accountable for anything. Especially not political assassination.
And pray tell how anything in my thoughts would make you think that “the American political class” would be held accountable.
The CIA doesn’t answer to the political class. It’s the other way around. And they have been carrying out political assassinations and coups in other countries for decades.
Exactly! CIA is not answerable to the politicians. CIA does not work for them. CIA works for the real govt- the banking cartel that rules the world and has taken over every nation on the planet by setting up privately controlled central banks.
Bankers can’t afford the cai. Bankers do what the fascists of the cai tell them to. Otherwise the children disappear.
You can not hold.power with money you hold it with fear.
FJB F them all
A high profile political assassination would require retaliation. I guess we’ll find out.
Even if Putin wanted Prig dead, somebody from outside doing it right next to Moscow would be a big dis.
Other countries? What about the JFK assassination?
Yes, I agree–if he’s dead, I’d say it was the CIA.
The CIA doesn’t necessarily want to rock the boat either, other countries have the same assets!
You’re just taking a wild guess.
Aren’t we all guessing (opining)?
But what’s strange is how you’re so adamant about deflecting the possibility of it being CIA, especially when there’s about 5-10 other commenters on page 1 that think it was the CIA or at least the possibility thereof also.
Maybe you should go try to dissuade them also.
Thou dust protesteth too much deflecting away from the possibility of the CIA.
Where is Betsy Jones’s suspicious cat when you need it?
Yes, so I get to guess too and I’ll also inject some reason to bring everyone back down to earth.
The american political class tries to insulate itself from all consequences. It would be way out of character for them to expose themselves to retaliation for political assassination – the severest kind of accountability totally out of their ability to control. That is not their M.O.
And it’s almost impossible to conceive that the CIA would conduct this kind of operation without being authorized because of the risk of harm to the people that have oversight and supply them with money. All of the sudden the politicians would have some courage and the CIA would have a problem.
What makes you think they get all their funding trough the budgetary process? The golden triangle and air america, afghan poppy fields? The majority of their funding is thru black ops to support black ops.
You’ve been watching to many movies. The CIA is a bureaucracy.
How about this. I lived it watching their MO in Central America in the 80s. There ain’t a damn thing you can tell me how they operate. And the ‘movies’ don’t even begin to cover it.
So, I re-emphasize that you are defending and trying to deflect on them, again.
I was watching them in Central America too, part of that time in US uniform in Honduras. I’m also fluent in Spanish and have lived 29 years in Latin America. I was only rarely sure when I was watching CIA ops, but having 29 years watching them from close is better than a brief interest in them, especially, if as I suspect, you were doing it through magazine articles. I concede that SOF did know a lot. Background gathered from English language sources is always going to be extremely incomplete.
Respectfully, I think you’re living in fantasy land.
Nice try.
Thanks for playing!
I think he is being reasonable. Truth is not decided by majority vote. Prighozin dissed Putin and seemed to be getting away with it.
If the CIA wanted Prighozin, he had been in Africa just that morning. An outsider hitting in Moscow is both more difficult and more provocative, inviting retaliation.
Yeah don’t want to rock the boat ….. remember Gulf of.Tonkin?
Is that you,WAYLON…
Maybe
Can’t see his face, just his hands.
Prigozhin is an actor playing a role. Every time you see him he is in “battle gear”. He could not walk the length of a football field with full gear.
He has no military experience.
He looks shot out, like an alcoholic with emphysema. X-con, turned cook is running a top notch mercenary group, well funded and damn near invincible? Bullshit!
Some of the best generals of the Confederacy had no prior military experience either. Or Castro, or Tito, or Mao, or Lenin, or the original Israelis, or shall I go on?
Wasn’t Grant an alcoholic? Or what about Churchill leading a country, or Stalin? Oh, they’re alcoholics so they couldn’t possibly function in those roles, huh?
But what does that have to do with what we are discussing regarding his possible demise? Nothing!
I think if we don’t see any credible reprisals from the Wagner group towards conventional Russian assets or domestic Russians , then the last option is likely the most accurate one.
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Thank God he was fully vaccinated!
Perhaps the plane recently received a booster shot.
I heard it was a mod RNA infusion in a fuel tank.
He’s clearly not wearing a mask in the above photo-it was only a matter of time/s
This is what I saw this AM.
They are generally reliable and I note that the aircraft had a vapor trail as it spiraled down.
https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/344845
No matter what the correct answer is, it is not a problem for us and hence not our business. The Russians are not importing our replacements. The problem for us is the Axis of Evil: City of London-New York City-Washington DC.
Suspicious cat is missing 🤔
Opppppsss ,didn’t see it 🙄
Interesting news.
I’m inclined to possibility #8 being likely.
Dunno… maybe something about hearing of too many of those Spy vs. Spy plots from the Cold War.
Appear to die in just ambiguous enough circumstances and let other’s minds fill in the blanks via confirmation bias.
Unlike the United States when you undertake a Coup against the sitting President in Russia there are apparently very serious consequences!
Now what becomes of Wagner?
Quite a kickoff to election ’24, screw the debates; the ‘rats will be pounding this and Ukraine.
Just remember. It doesn’t matter whether he’s living, deceased or on vacation. This isn’t like losing Patton or Nimitz or Halsey. This changes nothing and in no shape or form alters anything on the geo political landscape. Unless we had something to do with it. Then there’s Calculus involved.
I vote for SD’s LAST bulletpoint scenario. Wake me up when the DNA is extracted from the remains. Oh! Wait! What’s that? The remains are too thoroughly burned? No DNA can be extracted? Unh huh … Unh huh
I wouldn’t believe the dna tests… unless personally confirmed and vouched for by Anthony Fauci.
Trust the science and all that. /s
Its all of the above reasons.👀😳
Was suspicious cat seen in the area? Another overlooked scenario..SD IS SLIPPING..🤣
24 hour rule for sure.
Putin probably faked the demise of Prigozhin in order to send him to Mexico, then across our southern border among a gaggle of other illegals, on a secret mission of mischief here in the U.S. He’s probably disguised as a fat, repulsive looking, caterer for the other illegals; might be up to the Little Rock area by now. That’s my take.
Here’s a go…
The Nigeria-Morocco LNG pipeline is an existential priority for Europe. And no uppity soldier-of-fortune outfit is going to impede it. Certainly not now with today’s chain-of-command decapitation.
The oligarchs who straddle the East-West divide (and those above them), are playing the Ukrainian conflict like a highly lucrative, slow-motion violin. Europe is not to be left energy high-and-dry, just its thirst diverted southward to the African continent.
When the massively lucrative Ukrainian reconstruction effort begins in earnest, Shoigu will sit atop the turkey carving like a latterday George Marshall. Back channel negotiations are at a highly advanced stage. The MSM is already conceding a partitioned Ukraine.
The Russian MOD called in Wagner’s coordinates in Syria to the Americans in 2017’s Battle of Khasham, causing the deaths of 200 Wagner fighters. Talk about friendly fire. No love lost between Wagner and the MOD. This is a longstanding multi-theater turf battle that sits atop those other ‘more ostensible’ wars reported on by the BBC et al.
There is a unitary financial power that hovers above these wars, at times intervening to prolong, thwart or assist where it perceives its interests best served. The media’s job is to fashion narratives around these undisclosed interests in a manner that resonates, however incredulously, with popular expectations. Flags are the last bastion of disenfranchised suckers. There’s no real weight in flags anymore, if there ever was
The list of dead and arrested military and political Russian nationalists during the SMO (the former’s military successes risking elevated stature and profile, populist hero-worship and heightened nationalist fervors) is a long one.
There have always been war profiteers ginning both sides of a conflict. We’re seeing however an ‘advance’ as Inverted Totalitarianism seizes the reins of the State almost completely. It’s as though the State has withered away into a corporate bobolink.
As for the Will of the People? Mere bystanders to multinational, corporatist forces who now control the Earth.
Prigrozhin almost feeks like a JFK figure. Who didn’t want to kill him?
I think someone has a well worn copy of the Johnson playbook.
I believe you.
“between Finland and Leningrad in a black-market social circle that, well, let’s just say I am familiar with.”
Now, I’m really curious!
Do you have any folded and mirrored pics of Suspicious Cat?
😂🤣😂
Will this “death” entice Nigeria + to invade Niger?
Then what???
Wagner is waiting with weapons galore.
poor schmuck tangled with a rogue Barrage balloon.
Well he’s not a friend of the Clinton’s or a Kennedy…. so …..
Not a shocker to me. Decision probably made right after the ‘coup’. Putin is not going anywhere anytime soon.
I immediately though false flag when the news broke today. Prigozhin becomes much more useful for Putin if he is “dead”.
“who challenged the rule of Vladimir Putin”
At least the MSM doesn’t waste the reader’s time. They discredit themselves right off the top.
There’s no reason to take the Federal Air Transport Agency’s account of what happened. But what is certain is that the crew aboard that jet is dead, and everyone in it.
I won’t be surprised if we see Prigozhin in a few weeks again, or never again. Either way.
President Putin had no reason to kill Prigozhin. If hed wanted him dead, he’d have done it already and in a much more straightforward manner.
The U.S. cia and Ukr does however.
He’d not hed I meant.
Occums Razor-Putin did it. Means, motive and opportunity. Can’t allow the survival of one’s demonstrable enemy. A traitor’s justice.
I’m thinking the CIA scenario is about 0 percent. I’m leaning towards it’s a fake or Putin took him out 50/50. CIA is more interested in taking out Americans
Lucky #7 √
Number 4… the CPUSA can’t afford to leave someone like him loose close to an honest “election” in the USA
No Emerson?
When you strike at a king, you must kill him.
Ralph Waldo Emerson
Didn’t he jack Billions from the CIA?
Pretty sure it isn’t a case of the pilot having a baffling heart attack.
If it is the check mark he certainly will need a good surgeon w/a unique face like his.
Any statement by Putin or the Russian government on the crash and Prigozhin?
Putin has that ‘look’ in the picture above. it is not a smirk but he looks amused.
President Bush looks cagey as well.
I totally am against this Ukraine escalation, but that said, I strongly dislike Putin. If this is true, it just confirms and doubles my distrust of him.
These are the acts of a dictator, not a Christian. A lot of people supporting him allege that he is supporting Christian values. I beg to differ.
There are Russian sources claiming 2 Russian S-300 missiles struck the plane. Another stated that he heard two explosions up in the sky, went outside, and videotaped the plane falling out of the sky and crashing. Video was posted. There are also reports that Russian MoD has been dismantling Wagner since the Prigozhin stunt. My money is on Putin took out the Wagner leadership in one hit.
Timing is everything!
Tomorrow is Ukraine
Independence Day.
The media…and Ukraine
need a win to publicize.
Whether it is real or
manufactured.
They are desperate.
48 hour rule for me on
this.
Battlefield Ukraine – Update, General Surovikin dismissed, BRICS Summit, Grain Deal, Suez Incident..
👆👆👆click above to watch. ..Levan Gudadze
Important is the
General Surovikin story.
The defense line Ukraine
cannot even close to are
called the Surovikin lines.
General Surovikin is credited
for implementing the lines and
building them.
General Surovikin is also
reported to be close to
Prigozhin.
This was early in the morning
video. I have been busy and
haven’t got the latest.
Timing is everything.
And
48 hour Rule
International Political Intrigue
Wagner sighted and photographed in West African countries, Mali, Chad, Niger, and Central African Republic; there as a support role to deter ECOWAS “intervention.”
General Surovikin “sacked” from running Aerospace, but still in MOD (somewhere).
“Prigozhin was never in Moscow and is very much alive and . . . together with Surovikin are organizing an ‘offensive’ operation against NATO, as part of the country’s preparation, for imminent war with the West/US.
And we are just sitting here UNPREPARED, and with absolutely wicked, perverted, bloodthirsty, incompetent ideologues, running (RUINING) the country.
Maybe they’ll be intimidated and scared and run away, when we come at them with a full blown Pride Parade!
prog: I am donating 3 billion USD$ that we collected from the idiots in ukraine to the kremlin. In return, I would like putin to honor me and the wagner group with the following deals:
please announce and release my assasination. The west wille eat it up. And then when I reincarnate on the battle field, the world will see we have not only stolen their money but USED IT to manipulate the corruptors in the secret police spy stateI get to keep 3 billion for myself and my wagner troops so we can procure the weapons we need to continue several covert military operations to disrupt the wests’ ability to supply this proxy war.the last 3 billion I would ask that you allow wagner forces to enter a profit sharing with russian top two oil and natural gas companies that are posed to become leading energy market makers as this war comes to it’s inevitable end.Putin: done. well done. This is why I chose you..the right man for the job, always creating opportunity that is mutually beneficial. When shall I make the announcement that you are in fact very much alive?
prog: if you don’t mind, when I walk out…would you call me joker?
putin: da joker
With all the wild speculation on going on about this issue
I can only quote Winston Churchill
“Russia is a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma.”
Personally, I think he was purposefully ‘disappeared’ by the Russians, potentially to live a quiet life in Argentina or elsewhere. It’s highl unlikely the CIA had anything to do with this.
Putin could definitely not tolerate having Prighozin walking around free after dissing him.
Putin had to wait a little bit to make sure he knew everyone who might be in touch with Prigozhin.
US as portrayed does not really have an interest in eliminating Prig as he was a destabilizing element versus Putin. Gave dissenters hope. Nobody in official Russia would have acted without Putin’s okay in case whole revolt was fake.
CIA specifically may work for Putin, check out “ex cia” Larry Johnson at Gateway Pundit… Absolute Kremlin tool. And the money Russia/China oligarchs gave Clintons & Bidens determine US policy.
If CIA did something anyway, it would have been in Africa not Moscow.