“Platitudes”, that’s the best word to describe what the DeSantis campaign previously claimed would be a substantive economic policy outline from the Florida governor. As the policy was unveiled in New Hampshire yesterday, I watched it all {Direct Rumble Link Here} to see what it would cover and how DeSantis would deliver it. Summary, major fail.
First, I must admit to coming to any economic policy outline as presented with a laser focus. You tell me you have an economic policy, and you have my full attention. Why? Because the economic policy of a federal candidate will ultimately determine monetary policy, fiscal policy and foreign policy. It is the only national policy we cannot affect from a local level, yet we are necessarily impacted by it and cannot avoid it.
MAGA starts with MAGAnomics. So, to say I get into the weeds on this, would be a soft understatement.
Unfortunately, but not unexpectedly, what Ron DeSantis outlined yesterday was a series of 10-point meaningless platitudes. If the UniParty policy teams of Pete Buttigieg and Kamala Harris got together over a weekend with Mitch McConnell and Kevin McCarthy, they would create a think-tank-driven UniParty economic policy outline very similar to what Ron DeSantis presented yesterday.
Platitudes, soundbites and structurally incoherent gibberish – presented with a word assembly that amounts to nothing.
“We will declare our economic independence from the failed elites that have orchestrated American decline, from the reckless federal spending that has inflated prices and plunged this nation to the brink of bankruptcy.” ~ Ron DeSantis 7/31/23
Declare away doofus, you can declare all you want but it takes an actual set of targeted actions to move from declaration to outcome. Those same “failed elites that have orchestrated American decline” are the same people financing your run for office.
I’m sure somewhere in a Pete Buttigieg kind of way, that soundbite might have seemed like a good sentence; but in reality, it’s gibberish and parseltongue.
You can see the 10-point outline above. Generally speaking, when the ten points are outlined the speech and accompanying policy therein would describe exactly what action takes place in each of the points…. Nope, not for DeSantis it doesn’t. Instead, what DeSantis does in his policy framework is take each of the ten points and then describe what they mean.
DeSantis describes what is referenced by each of his ten points, he does not outline the specific action that takes place within them. That’s how you can tell when a think-tank puts meaningless platitudes into a format for a candidate to speak. In this instance the think tank is the stunningly typical Club for Growth, U.S. Chamber of Commerce and the multinationals who are funding the DeSantis campaign operation.
Take point #1 as an example, dealing with China. Here’s the policy:
- DeSantis will end our abusive relationship with the CCP, reverse our ever-increasing trade deficits, ban imports of goods made from stolen intellectual property, strengthen protections to stop child and forced labor, and end China’s preferential trade status.
- DeSantis will demand that American companies act in accordance with American interests — which means preventing companies from sharing critical technologies with China and banning the sale of strategic assets like farmland to CCP members and their affiliates.
- DeSantis will incentivize the repatriation of U.S. capital from China through strategic tax abatements and aligning market incentives with strategic goals to help secure our supply chains and invest in America.
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“DeSantis will end our abusive relationship with China.” How? Doesn’t say.
“DeSantis will demand”…. How? Doesn’t say.
“DeSantis will incentivize”…. How? Doesn’t say.
See the problem?
The era of hopeful optimism that a Republican candidate will actually take an action to fulfill the policy “demand” is over. The rustbelt sits there, staring at any Republican politician who would dare say the Republican Party has protected Main Street from the vulture capitalism of Wall Street.
This DeSantis economic policy is an assembly of meaningless platitudes with no substantive action presented as policy to back up the intention. Worse still, not only is there no action outlined, but there’s also no action that could be outlined that is not against the interests of the very people who put the outline together.
The people constructing this language (for DeSantis to read) have no intent, thought or purpose of actually doing anything to act upon any of the economic issues. Within all of the remaining nine points it’s the same. It’s all meaningless gibberish.
Compare the DeSantis policy to the Trump policy. Here’s Trump’s “AGENDA 47” China plan:
♦ENDING RELIANCE ON CHINA: President Trump’s America First trade policy will completely eliminate U.S. dependence on China–the primary beneficiary of Democrats’ globalist agenda.
In addition to universal baseline tariffs on most foreign goods, President Trump’s plan will reclaim our economic independence from China. President Trump will revoke China’s Most Favored Nation trade status and adopt a 4-year plan to phase out all Chinese imports of essential goods—everything from electronics to steel to pharmaceuticals. This will include strong protections to ensure China cannot circumvent restrictions by passing goods through conduit countries.
President Trump will establish new rules to stop U.S. companies from investing in China and stop China from buying up America, allowing only those investments that serve American interests.
President Trump will ban federal contracts for any company that outsources to China. (link)
See the difference? The DeSantis campaign assembles talking points, while the Trump China plan is direct, specific and actionable.
The DeSantis economic plan is well described by this segment by Steve Bannon {Direct Rumble Link}:
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Fortunately, we do not have to guess which candidate has the right path. We have President Trump’s actual economic policy results to look at and see how the expansion of the economy was creating the type of growth that would sustain Social Security and Medicare. This was/is MAGAnomics at work.
…. Make America Great Again!
We know it works, because we have the results to cite.
It was the Fourth Quarter of 2019…..
Right before the pandemic would hit a few months later…. Despite two years of doomsayer predictions from Wall Street’s professional punditry, all of them saying Trump’s 2017 steel and aluminum tariffs on China, Canada and the EU would create massive inflation, it just wasn’t happening!
Overall year-over-year inflation was hovering around 1.7 percent [Table-A BLS]; yup, that was our inflation rate. The rate in the latter half of 2019 was firmed up with less month-over-month fluctuation, and the rate basically remained consistent. [See Below] The U.S. economy was on a smooth glide path, strong, stable and Main Street was growing with MAGAnomics at work.
A couple of important points. First, unleashing the energy sector to drive down overall costs to consumers and industry outputs was a key part of President Trump’s America-First MAGAnomic initiative. Lower energy prices help the worker economy, middle class and average American more than any other sector.
Which brings us to the second important point. Notice how food prices had very low year-over-year inflation, 0.5 percent. That is a combination of two key issues: low energy costs, and the fracturing of Big Ag hold on the farm production and the export dynamic:
(BLS) […] The index for food at home declined for the third month in a row, falling 0.2 percent. The index for meats, poultry, fish, and eggs decreased 0.7 percent in August as the index for eggs fell 2.6 percent. The index for fruits and vegetables, which rose in July, fell 0.5 percent in August; the index for fresh fruits declined 1.4 percent, but the index for fresh vegetables rose 0.4 percent. The index for cereals and bakery products fell 0.3 percent in August after rising 0.3 percent in July. (link)
For the previous twenty years food prices had been increasingly controlled by Big Ag, and not by normal supply and demand. The commodity market became a ‘controlled market’. U.S. food outputs (farm production) was controlled and exported to keep the U.S. consumer paying optimal prices.
President Trump’s trade reset was disrupting this process. As farm products were less exported the cost of the food in our supermarket became reconnected to a ‘more normal’ supply and demand cycle. Food prices dropped and our pantry costs were lowered.
The Commerce Dept. then announced that retail sales climbed by 0.4 percent in August 2019, twice as high as the 0.2 percent analysts had predicted. The result highlighted retail sales strength of more than 4 percent year-over-year. These excellent results came on the heels of blowout data in July, when households boosted purchases of cars and clothing.
The better-than-expected number stemmed largely from a 1.8 percent jump in spending vehicles. Online sales, meanwhile, also continued to climb, rising 1.6 percent. That’s similar to July 2019, when Amazon held its two-day, blowout Prime Day sale. (link)
Despite the efforts to remove and impeach President Trump, it did not look like middle-class America was overly concerned about the noise coming from the pundits. Likely that’s because blue-collar wages were higher, Main Street inflation was lower, and overall consumer confidence was strong. Yes, MAGAnomics was working.
Additionally, remember all those MSM hours and newspaper column inches where the professional financial pundits were claiming Trump’s tariffs were going to cause massive increases in prices of consumer goods?
Well, exactly the opposite happened [BLS report] Import prices were continuing to drop:
This was a really interesting dynamic that no-one in the professional punditry would dare explain.
Donald Trump’s tariffs were targeted to specific sectors of imported products. [Steel, Aluminum, and a host of smaller sectors etc.] However, when the EU and China respond by devaluing their currency, that approach hit all products imported, not just the tariff goods.
Because the EU and China were driving up the value of the dollar, everything we were importing became cheaper. Not just imports from Europe and China, but actually imports from everywhere. All imports were entering the U.S. at substantially lower prices.
This meant when we imported products, we were also importing deflation.
This price result is exactly the opposite of what the economic experts and Wall Street pundits predicted back in 2017 and 2018 when they were pushing the rapid price increase narrative.
Because all the export dependent economies were reacting with such urgency to retain their access to the U.S. market, aggregate import prices were actually lower than they were when the Trump tariffs began:
[…] Prices for imports from China edged down 0.1 percent in August following decreases of 0.2 percent in both July and June. Import prices from China have not advanced on a monthly basis since ticking up 0.1 percent in May 2018. The price index for imports from China fell 1.6 percent for the year ended in August.
[…] Import prices from the European Union fell 0.2 percent in August and 0.3 percent over the past 12 months.
So yes, we know President Trump can save Social Security and Medicare by expanding the economy with his America First economic policy. We do not need to guess if it is possible or listen to pundits theorize about his approach being some random ‘catch phrase’ disconnected from reality. Yes folks, we have the receipts.
This was MAGAnomics at work, and this is entirely what created the middle-class MAGA coalition. No other Republican candidate has this economic policy in their outlook because all other candidates are purchased by the Wall Street multinationals.
America First MAGAnomics is unique to President Trump because he is the only one independent enough to implement them.
That’s just the reality of the situation. They hate him for it…
- Donald Trump American Solutions Part I
- Donald Trump American Solutions Part II
- Donald Trump “America First” Conservative Solutions Part III
- Donald Trump “America First” Conservative Solutions Part IV
Author’s note as said in 2016: “If I absolutely did not believe this economic model was doable, I would never expand the concept and place advocacy upon it. I am an absolute believer that we can, as a nation, reignite a solid manufacturing base and generate an expanding middle class.” Yes, I bet on Trump, and he was right.
Economic policy is one of the most important things a president can impact the people he chooses to implement that policy is equally as important. in my lifetime I can not remember a better economic team than what Donald J Trump put together he did once he can do it again MAGA
R.D.
And the reality is that this could apply to pretty much EVERY presidential candidate with one clear exception – Our President….
Before I understood all of this as I was growing up, I always thought it was strange how the candidates would go on and on about how bad the other candidate was and how they would fix things when they get into office (never with any specifics)- and then when the opposing party candidate got elected, no one noticed anything changing…
Reverend!
They want all that on your list, but would NOT give any credit to the man who brought it.
On top of that, they bought into the caricature of media portrait of a crude side of Trump, hence the so-called conservative Christian suburban (white) women who simply couldn’t support Trump.
I like Trumps 1 step plan.
American first
And not a single word about Ukraine too….
Or light bulbs. This is front page MSM news today, because priorities matter.
Brandon is already making Ukraine great again, uniparty got what it wanted.
The uniparty just needs splitters to throw in front of the MAGA Train.
Phony horse-races work until you run out of other people’s money.
“…once the finances dry up …astroturfing influencers will simply disappear.”
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/07/31/tremors-abound-as-godzilla-trump-crushes-gop-field-in-first-new-york-times-poll-of-2024-campaign-season/
Wow, I’m shocked. I was literally thinking the same exact Sundance line at the same time as you..
“…once the finances dry up …astroturfing influencers will simply disappear.”
It’s easy to understand: They’re still making the false “Trump without the baggage” argument. Everything in that 10-point plan has literally been said at some point by Trump, even in the “China plan” comparison you made. All they’re doing is restating what Trump said, but with zero intention of actually doing it. They think people will be duped by only saying the parts that get headlines from Trump. Their entire campaign is fake.
More like “baggage without Trump”..
very, very good!
Polls are used by the enemy, in two very different ways.
One is the obvious one, polls that have their results published, and that are intended to manipulate Public opinion, rather than honestly reflecting it.
The other are “internal polls” the results of which are NEVER released or even talked about.
In these internal polls, accuracy IS the goal, but NOT so they can know what policies the American people WANT, so they can implement them, NO.
These internal polls are used to shape the MESSAGE, i.e. what should the Candidate (or media) MESSAGE be.
This ‘presentation’ by RDS is a direct product of such polling; elites bad, middle class good. China bad, American interests GOOD.
And, throw in words like “incentivise” its almost as good as “all stakeholders” for the libs. Makes you sound smart, like wearing horned rim glasses.
Packaged bullshirt.
They are continueing the marketing of RDS (and Vivek) as “Trump-lite, less filling no taste” and more broadly their strategy is a war of ATTRITION.
To peal off SOME Trump supporters using Vivek, some using Jr., they had hoped to get some “evangelicals” using Pence, and RDS as their main effort. Maybe Christie to appeal to morbidly obese?
This has really been the SAME strategy they have been pursueing relentlessly, since the escalator ride; diminish MAGA support for DJT, enough that they could use “proceedures and processes” to diminish him as a threat.
IF they could peal off ENOUGH MAGA, then they COULD have threatened that Senate R’s would vote to convict, in order to force him to resign.
IF his support was diminished enough they COULD have used the “perfect phone call”; if his popularity is diminished enough they could have used ANY excuse to remove him.
If his support is diminished enough, the RNC can use the excuse of the Indictments, to deny him the nomination.
But, ..if WE stay strong, hold the line, and reject all of their attempts at manipulation, he PDJT is invincible. And there is NOTHING they can do to stop him.
We are holding the line. Thanks Dutch.
caaareful there… i am now officially an MI6 agent for saying much less, lol
So what’s your plan? But we both know you will never answer that question, so let’s not pretend.
What are we accomplishing?
We are killing Bud Lite and putting a real drag on the ESG WEF crowd, so much so that the crowdfunding is starting to dry up. We’re putting a stop to the Swamp in the primaries, as evidenced by the polls, we’re identifying all the Swamp Monsters and pointing out what makes them swampy. We’re close to putting Hollywood out of business…
Not bad for a day’s work.
What have you accomplished?
Wellll, its NOT actually OFFICIAL, Muley.
Not until Sundance or the admins MAKE it official, lol.
You speak (write, actually) for one branch of the Treehouse, advocating a certain position.
I do not say that you, or those who agree with you are “paid influencers” only that you may have been INFLUENCED by such paid influencers, which is after all what they are paid to do; persuade others of the validity of their false narratives, in the hope the false narrative will be AMPLIFIED.
I, and those who agree with me have ALSO had it said, that maybe WE are “influencers” of the paud variety, so your not alone in that, lol.
Your position,
In broad terms;”no point in voting, they will just steal it again, you can’t vote your way out of tyranny, and any talk otherwise is just more “hopium”.
You advocate for National, General Strikes and at least hint at preparing for armed conflict, which you seem to see as inevitable.
I speak for (actually write for) the “other side” or alternate position.
Firstly, what is the HARM in voting? What is the HARM in organising and fighting on multiple fronts, the election fraudsters, rather than just capitulating, and conceeding our elections to them.
You dismiss the major successes WE have made, in combating election fraud, and depriving them of powerful tools they used in 2020, like the Dominion algorythm; they can not “just go in the machine, and generate as many votes as they need to win”.
Actually, it was NEVER that simple, but in any case they CAN NOT use that method, which accounted for key “victories” for the thieves, in the 5 key States they HAD to steal, in order to
steal the 2020 election.
We KNOW that they know they can not use the Algorythm, because they did NOT use it, in ANY election in 2022, not even in must steal Maracopa County. No Counties STOPPED COUNTING on election night, 2022, hence the Algorythm wasn’t used.
In addition, 9 States have withdrawn from the Eric system; it is believed this system was abused by the cheaters, to assess they had not succeeded in stealing Texas, and so would have to implement the algorythm in those 5 States, hence “stop the count”.
Texas, importantly is one of the States that has withdrawn from Eric.
Hence, the one thing we can say, with certainty is that 2024 will NOT be a repeat of 2020, as they are left with ONLY ballot stuffing and voter suppression, as their two remaining tools.
Their voter suppression methods used in 2020 and 2022 were utterly dependant on OUR BEHAVIOR as MAGA voters, and so that is something WE CAN CHANGE.
The cheaters ballot suppression DEPENDED on our MAGA voters voting IN PERSON, on ELECTION DAY, making it incredibly easy for them to suppress our vote.
If, particularly in those counties where we know the fraud is rampant, our voters vote early, and request an absentee ballot in those counties where they are not mailed out automatically, and confirm their correct mailing address including zip code and insure they recieve the mailed out ballot, whether they use it or not, our voters can avoid being put in the “provisional box” and so not suppressed.
I have detailed the options available, including being on one of the Jay Valentine teams in every state using his “app” to identify phantom voters, and interdict, disrupt, expose or even hijack their ballot harvesting operations, and so won’t repeat that, here.
The cheaters have previously had an “open field”; neither LE or the RNC did anything to combat ballot fraud, so the cheaters were scoring victories unopposed, and initially we RE- acted, after the steal.
Now, we have the opportunity to act PRO-ACTIVELY to restrict their ability to steal, instead of waiting until AFTER, and then crying “foul”.
2024 will NOT be anything like 2020 or 2022.
As for “General Strikes” I have seen several “calls” for such strikes, here in CTH comments and elsewhere,..but they didn’t RESONATE, or happen.
Such strikes typically need a GALVANISING event, and we have not yet seen such an event, because if we had had such an event, there WOULD have been strikes, THATS how such strikes typically occur.
IF they were (not going to happen, but some here speculate, so using as examples) to incarcerate PDJT, if the RNC were to refuse him the nomination, or if they were to steal 2024, these are examples of the kinfd of galvanising event, that would spontaneously trigger the initiation of nationwide strikes.
Such strikes typically include specific demands or grievances, and the above examples lead to logically demands ;release PDJT, give him the nomination, or don’t certify the election results, respectively.
WHAT would ‘our demand’ BE, for a national strike,….RIGHT NOW?
Stop weoponising the Govt. against MAGA?
Release all J6 prisoners and stop arresting any more?
Biden to step down (and give us WHO?)
Again, by the lack of responce to calls for strikes, obviously these goals are not motivating, nor is it at all likely they are achievable.
So, it seems your ‘side’ is advocating NOT voting, which is what the enemy would want, because the lower the margin of victory they have to overcome with cheating, the easier or more possible it is.
And you are instead urging National Strikes, when that coarse of action is not feasible, due to lack of responce to calls for strikes, there is no Galvanising event, nor clear, obtainable goals.
I and my side are urging active participation in the elections, voting both harder and SMARTER, and both PDJT and Sundance obviously believe PDJT can win in 2024.
Neither you or I are paid influencers, but perhaps ONE of us HAS been influenced BY a paid influencer, and is now unconsciously amplifying their message?
Which MESSAGE is most likey the false narrative our enemy would want to promulgate among us?
“No point in voting, they’ll just steal it again”,..” you can’t vote your way out of tyranny” and lets have a general strike (that nobody will participate in.)?
Or,
“Much HAS been accomplished, we CAN win 2024 if we vote harder and SMARTER, and get PROACTIVE rather than
just REACTIVE in fighting ballot fraud.”?
WHICH narrative is the narrative the enemy would most want us all to adopt, and which would they least want us to adopt?
VOTE! VOTE! VOTE!
I declare that DeSantis is a jack wagon.
There’s only one #AmericaFirst candidate in this race that can, has and will, again, bring back American Greatness.
Economic security is National security
Look at what Donald J. Trump was able to achieve while he was under constant political attack. Just imagine what Trump 2.0 would deliver
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/06/14/economic-security-is-national-security-and-the-foundation-of-economic-and-national-security-is-energy-policy-biden-is-a-threat-to-national-security/
The 1984 campaign comes to mind (ultimately Reagan vs. Mondale). This line “Where’s the Beef” became a thing during the campaign:
Come to think of it, the media and Democrats hated Reagan almost as much as they do Trump … though back then the Democrats weren’t yet fully Commie, so still (somewhat) played by the rules of our Republic.
There are many comparisons between PDT and Reagan. The main one is that they were both considered “outsiders”. Am old enough to remember the pundits early on claiming Reagan was clueless and would bankrupt the nation. The DC insiders and the Big Club uniparty trash hated both of them.
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Reagan made or allowed two huge mistakes: The National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986, and the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986.
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Thanks, don’t forget Republican Senator from Wyoming Alan Simpson’s sponsorship of the Immigaration Reform Act.
I also believe under Reagan our refugee and asylum laws were brought into conformance with United Nations Charters. Thanks Ronnie.
I loved that ad so much – the lady with the white, white hair in the middle (like both of my grandmothers, snowy white clouds – and the lady on the right with the cute lace collar – they are all three so cute, like people I have known and loved)
Poor Ron. He come off like a Walmart Kamala with that word salad. 🙄
USA Policy simplified:
Energy independence
Medicine independence
Financial independence
Food independence
Metal independence
Manufacturing independence
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The opposite is globalism.
The opposite is dependence
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Becoming dependent empowers those you are dependent upon. The multinational corporations achieve political power by creating international dependency. The end result is fascism.
After what China did with covid it would be insane to be dependent on them for medical or military supplies.
Oh how quickly the Golden boy of the GOP has fallen…..from the get go I had a bad gut feeling about him…then Sundance showed me why I was having that feeling…
DErINO IS A DUD
Ron DeRino
LOL
Yes!
Thank you Sundance. God bless you and yours. May His favor overflow all of you. In Jesus name. Amen.
Amen Eva
R.D.
Cheap lip service from a “DOOFUS”. Only one man has ever delivered on election promises, and demonstrated exactly how to do it.
Donald J. Trump
Yahoo article claiming RdS copying Biden’s econ plans.
Love it
The more Ron! talks the less I care for him
Come back home and deal with some very important Florida issues. That’s what you said you wanted to do when you ran for re election… remember?
CFR-GOPe Bush:
It is false to say President Bush presided over a “jobless recovery.” His trade deficits have created many millions of jobs in China.
Pat Buchanan— Where the Right Went Wrong
Note another traitor GOPe Speaker lyin Ryan who did all he could to sabotage PDJT & the MAGA agenda
Colkitto… you’re one of the best… I’m so glad you contribute as much as you do…thank you!
RDS… is soooooo much full of WEF sh*t he should be fully DeSanitized…
Once again, no policy, just platitudes. No different from that 48 minutes of platitudinous blather from RFKJr the other day with not one word of policy.
I remember when W was going to fix our immigration system, then he came out with his actual policy of how he would do it, and it was all amnesty and path to citizenship, NOT what any Republicans who voted for him thought they were getting.
The 2024 election is all about policy. Only Trump has the goods.
Trump/Idon’tknow 2024
trapper — were you in my high school debate class (1962-63)? My debate teacher used that same phrase “platitudinous blather” along with “gobbledygook” when critiquing our presentations. She hammered home again and again: clear action words with measurably specific results will carry the day. Nowadays, we are so used to reading and hearing the noxious DC vernacular that I swear anyone of us could have written Ron’s speech in polit-babble without any brain strain whatsoever.
As far as the 2024 ticket, perhaps we can just have Trump + position to be filled later 2024!
Unfortunately HS debate has been destroyed through the use of “kritiks” style which ignore the debate proposition and instead use critical theory to make philosophical arguments.
Sad to realize the “Chatty Cathy” doll would offer a better debate argument than today’s “critical thinkers.”
Thanks, Sundance, for this comprehensive analysis. I wasn’t aware of much of the reasoning behind the results President Trump and his team achieved. This is great and I intend to widely share it. Thanks again.
If it looks like the typical GOPe thinktank, then that tank ain’t thinking.
Usually, when the scammers see that people are on to them, they will change their scam.
Reminds me of this.
Please clap
If I may repeat myself:
“Isn’t Ron DeSantis politically experienced enough by now to realize that he is simply ‘being played?’” 🤷♂️
Right now, “he has a US State to run,” and 100% of his attention should right now be focused there.
His handlers intend to use him only as a “spoiler,” and he will never get anywhere close to the White House. He should remove that brass ring from his nose and instead trust his instincts. The citizens of Florida need him NOT to be “pointlessly distracted” right now.
Even if he knows fully, how would you suggest he escape or get out of his dilemma?
Even if he has a deep spiritual awakening and change of heart, and realizes he is being played against the American people. I don’t think he has the fortitude of character to call out his handlers, tell them he’s just going to focus on his state governorship, and apologize to the American people. He would have to call out the people who are manipulating him.
He would be Arkancided
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It looks like the GOP is trying to get multiple candidates in multiple states, with the plan being then to split the primary wins and have a contested convention. Plan B may be to split more states’ primary votes in the general and hurt Trump that way.
(Today while driving — in Florida — I heard a local radio ad for some guy (who?) named Doug Burgum…)
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Dunno. Seems to me hard for GOPe to control a contested convention, but it assuredly would put a laser-focus on state delegations. (As an aside, when Obama talked about “56 states” people all laughed at him as though he didn’t how many states there are, but I’m pretty sure it was in reference to state-level delegations at the DNC/RNC, though Dems actually have 57 due to something they call “democrats abroad” that gets delegates.)
Same old Republican BS and then they do NOTHING. Only Trump kept his promises and made America great.
i think he should either hold a rally the same night n time – or do a MST3K where he gets some popcorn and pepsi and we just watch him watch the debate and make snarky comments over the top of it.
and then spend the next few days afterward telling us all how much better his ratings were.
not even joking.
Have Mike Tyson there in the “Watch Party” –
lots of popcorn!
So, it occurs to me this:
if Trump and friends were to have a watch party of the debate and we are all sitting there viewing the watch party and the debate that they are watching –
then the livestreaming numbers of people watching Trump and friends watching the debate would be greater possibly than the numbers of people actually watching the debate directly on Fox News?
that will happen
MAGA ain’t going anywhere
Big fan of MST over the years.
Seems the boss either visits here or has some one that does… isn’t that right Dan?
I love it!
He can say the comments the rest of us would be saying…..
he should debate online
answering the questions after the schmucks answer
sort of real time with a pause button
OMG, it would be hilarious!
“liar”
“that guy/gal is too stupid to run a lemonade stand”
etc.
Hel* no !!!!
Trump could videotape himself doing a commentary during the debate, and his people can edit it so he looks the way they want him to. That way, we get to see his reaction and hear his thoughts. It would be amazing.
Like I’ve always said about my Gov, “He can do more with his mouth than any $2 hooker.”
The DeSantis Agenda is almost the MAGA agenda, except Trump already did it, against more resistance than has ever been amassed against him and this nation. An as Sundance points out, DeSantis is funded by those who fought against Trump and MAGA and who continue to fight against Trump, MAGA, and the welfare of the American people.
Therefore, DeSantis and his backers are lying, just like the Wolf and Little Red Riding Hood.
You don’t act gentlemanly and “presidential” to the wolf masquerading as the the kindhearted grannie who loves the little children. The wolf is a lying predator who really wants to kill and eat the children. The WEF/GOPe/Uniparty is the wolf.
You call out the wolf at the same time you kill it.
Desantis has done nothing for the economy of Florida nor for the economics of Florida citizens. Desantis took a payoff from the home insurance agencies and Florida citizens are paying up to 6x on their home insurance this year.
Desantis is a thief. I hope Floridians recall him.
..un autre mot….BOILERPLATE…
Dear Rhonda DeSoros,
Please keep embarrassing yourself and your donors.
Sincerely,
MEGA
A declaration of independence. How cute. Speaking of which, what is the difference between:
“we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor”
vs
“mutually pledging to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor”
One is action and one is talk.
Bannon’s summary of the DeSantis economic plan was spot on as well as funny. DeSantis is straining to be the biggest of the Keebler Elves but to what end? Every one of these pretenders should immediatly close up shop and unite behind Trump. The one elf I was holding out a small amount of hope foe was Ramaswampy’ but his mask flew off the other day with his call for an even greater foreign invasion. Don’t you all just love the way Trump smokes out these globalist pretenders? And please, no more talk of the best of these losers as a potential VP pick. It’s got to be Trump/Lake!!!!
Nobody does anything without money. These people are being paid to go against Trump.
If the RINOS wanted to secure the border and stop illegal immigration as DeSantis proposes why did they steal the 2020 Presidential Election from Donald Trump and install Joe Biden an avowed Leftist who campaigned to open the borders???
Doesn’t make sense!
Crib notes;
Not simply END, but REVERSE the exfiltration of wealth and middle class jobs and hence lifestyles.
It is thru “free” but unfair to America and Americans trade policies, that the wealth of our Nation was “exfiltrated” to China, Mexico, and EU, and virtually all Countries as THEY were allowed “protectionist” tarriffs on our products, hugely disproportionate to our tarriffs on their goods.
Hence, manufacturing jobs and the middle class lifestyles went to CHINA, EU, Mexico and while our retirement, healthcare and infrastructure all crumbled, the EU financed their generous programs on “our” backs.
$500 BILLION/ year, X’s 30 years each, for China and the EU, is whats owed us.
And we want it BACK, with INTEREST.
Retribution & Reckoning
Trump/Lake 2024
time to square accounts.
Darn, well said Sir.
Do you think then the US kids will get pensions and job security?
Man I miss 2019.
Looking up doofus I found the picture of meatball. Second definition was a picture of Nikki and the third definition was of Mike Pence.
No worries Patrick. As you know, all those doofs (doofeses? doofi?) must meet requirements laid down for the first “debate.” There are 2 people who’ve not yet met the requirements.
The first one is North Dakota guvner – understandable. Who could even find North Dakota on a map?
The last one is…..Mike Pence.
In 2016, we recognized the Trump Curse. Every time someone attacked Our President, WHAM! the Trump Curse.
Too bad Pence never learned a teensy bit from his boss.
It seems that today, all of Desantis people are out trying to tell people that Biden is ahead of President Trump in all the swing states and that
Desantis is ahead of him, and President Trump is losing to both of them, guess some where this weekend Desantis must have bumped his head and couldnt figure out how to go home.. pathetic figure
I think he copied Trump’s plan.
Superficially so, yes.
All about appearances.
Nothing more.
“We will declare our economic independence from the failed elites that have orchestrated American decline, from the reckless federal spending that has inflated prices and plunged this nation to the brink of bankruptcy.” ~ Ron DeSantis 7/31/23
Uh oh…. There’s that We” -again!
➡️WHO is ➡️“WE”. ?
———————////———
DeShmucktus just admitted
that he knows
that he has been
and is
a willing participant
in the demise of the USA.
I think he has a mouse in his pocket.
All 10 items end with -ing. Meaning no measurable goals have been set and therefore nothing will be done. Get ready for another round of conservative battered syndrome.
We’re a missed heartbeat away from this doofus explaining her agenda…
President Trump’s economic plan should also be touted as good for the environment.
Think about how much it would reduce carbon emissions if we produced goods locally and didn’t have to ship them halfway around the world.
Just one of those container ships emits more than 50 million automobiles.
Now, I’m not a believer in anthropogenic global warming, but if that’s what the Left wants to push, let’s beat them in the face with how imbecilic their policies are.
Made in America would do more to reduce global CO2 emissions than banning all automobiles and aircraft put together.
President Trump – Good for Americans. Good for the Planet.
“Just one of those container ships emits more than 50 million automobiles.”
I believe that estimate was about sulfur SOx not carbon. But I have seen better refined data suggesting more like 15 million urban cars.
Carbon dioxide is what plants eat. No carbon dioxide, no plants. Then we die.
“The economic policy of a federal candidate will ultimately determine monetary policy, fiscal policy and foreign policy.”
-SUNDANCE
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And, especially in this day and age, social policy, too.
If politics lies downstream of culture, then it is easier to see why social policy is so important to the left.
Many people don’t realize these truths, but they are fundamental to correctly understanding how DC works.
Thank you for taking one for the team Sundance.
As a fellow Floridian, I can’t bring myself to listen to him anymore. Let alone watching Casey trying on tiaras!
Here’s an idea: “We’re going to re-examine every subsidy in the budget. Too many giveaways have accrued over the years. Many subsidies met their goals years ago, but continue simply due to inertia. That’s going to stop.”
Then sit back and listen to heads explode.
Subsidies should be exactly zero. It is a tool of economic enslavement. They are, quite simply:
a) a means to transfer wealth from the wages of working taxpayers, to the parasitic politicians and the Wall Street cabal that produces nothing.
and/or
b) a means to make States so dependent on the DC gravy train that they will never stand up to nullify Federal regulatory schemes that suck the life blood out of their citizens.
Subsidies should be exactly zero.
I’m finally really getting it because my reaction to reading those pathetic ten points was a simpler version of Sundance and Brannons. Woot! We just need to keep bringing people to this kind of understanding so they cannot be tricked by nice word salad catch phrases.
DeSantis is such a disappointment. He sucked up to the RINOs, and he will not be able to overcome the consequences Times have changed – no more RINO promises.
He traded his future in politics for a one and done payday to try to torpedo President Trump. It was not a good investment for his donors.
Really toasts my almonds that President Trump not only has to fight off the entire Globalists Uniparty scum but to have so many FORMER supporters in the small Conservative websites all turn on him to prop up Rhonda Santis–those turncoats MFers are obviously doing it for money at this point.
And he’s hads to fight the DOJ, every freaking democrat stronghold, court in this Country
Everybody is against President Trump. Which is why I stand with him.
So, a campaign based on lies tell more?
OK.
But it’s not what Ron! says that should concern you. It’s what he’s not saying that should freeze the beer in your hand. And just think of all the things Ron! didn’t discuss in his manifesto, i.e., illegal aliens, the wall, Ukraine, Russia, etc….
Leaked video shows DeSantis fear about ‘pissing off’ Trump voters
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/ron-desantis-trump-voters-video-b2334887.html
By now RDS must realize that it’s too late to avoid pissing off Trump voters. That ship has sailed. His only hope whatsoever in the game is the removal of President Trump from the playing field, and even then RDS would likely finish second or third behind President Trump.
I think at some point they are going to switch the DeSantis campaign to the Meloni strategy. Straight bald-faced lying. If that can buy them four years, then they will figure out what to do next later. Those people think strategically in terms of gaining an office for a set period of time.
The ineptitude of his campaign really had its cover blown during the debate with Charlie Crist. Charlie spanked him. And they should have seen that one coming. https://youtu.be/6K6t5ThrxBE. But let’s face it, his campaign is hamstrung no matter what. If you can’t call the 2020 election a fraud, nobody thinks you’re a serious candidate anyway. Not being able to show his face in his home state has really complicated his position. He should have made election integrity a number one priority. He could have faked it. Never mention the machines, never talk about mail in ballots, just about gibberish like he is with economic policy. But to look the world in the eye and say he thought Joe Biden won the election, non-starter.
The ironic thing is, DeSantis won by 20 points in 2022, precisely because he rooted out the corruption in Broward county
He probably won because of Dominion.
I see that as the establishment mafia simply taking out people that stood out and the image of being just.
its probably too late for him to do that. if he came out tomorrow all pizz n vinegar that we must end the Uke war NOW, i just don’t think anyone would believe him anymore.
its a russian invasion you idiotic putz … UKRAINIANS are dying for their country and freedom. We (and dozens of other countries) are only supplying weapons
Oh please – CONINC morons are over thst way – >
are you sure YOU aren’t the MI6??? lulz
Oh yeah, Zelensky is so torn up over the fake war he purchased a $32 million dollar mansion in Ft Lauderdale.
Like Biden, get anyone in and figure it out later. Power is all they crave.
Nowhere in the DeSantis economic plan does he mention the word, “tariffs.” It’s nowhere to be found, yet it is an indispensable support leg of any economic policy that wants to change the ball game to our advantage. And the overused phrase, “Rein in the Federal Reserve” is so empty and devoid of meaning that it serves only to point out how worthless his plan is overall. Rein in the devil from Jekyll Island … please, give me a break.
Typical cart-before-the-horse ineptitude. WAY Too much left unsaid as pointed out above.
True. He’s not ready for prime time, and never will be. He’s got the “big club” stink all over him.
And I didn’t think he did at first…it was only his shoving his way ahead of PDT…but yep, the stink is now impossible to ignore.
Yeah, The Creature from Jekyll Island doesn’t need to be “reined in” it needs to be hunted down and have a wooden stake driven though it’s Blackrock heart. Everyone involved should be looking up at the free noose on the gallows.
The Creature from Jekyll Island is a convenient scapegoat. The problem is not the Fed or banks. The problem is the Legislature Spends Too Much Money.
McCarthy allowed the biggest spending bill in History. That is our RINO leadership bankrupting us and blaming the Fed.
Without the Federal Reserve and their shell game of finance, NONE of the reckless spending would be permitted by the free market. YES, they are indeed the lynchpin to federal spending and overspending.
Lies. The Federal Reserve and all central banks in every single country is the enemy. They are the ones who BUY OFF our CONGRESS.
all of the above
One doesn’t necessarily cancel out the other.
was just going to say…false dichotomy.
We do not need your violent comments.
Does he or his minions even KNOW what a tariff IS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 🥴
Why yes they do, China, their paymaster, doesn’t like them
That’s because there is no DeSantis economic plan or really any other DeSantis policy position. What you saw posted was the DeSantis’ big-donor economic plan. DeSantis merely signed up to be there spokesman. All the big donors hate tariffs, they love illegal immigration, they love war anywhere but especially in Ukraine. You can almost trace the DeSantis changes in policy positions by where the fundraising is targeting.
The same is true for all GOP politicians who cannot self-fund or rely on small donors. The same is true for the RNC.
It reads like a 7th grader wrote it. Leftists are idiots I’ll give them that.
Republican Party is Wallstreet vulture “capitalism”. Please remember that.
MAGA Party is for the Conservatives in the Nation.
Desantis is on record saying that Trump’s China Tariffs “didnt work”. Tell that to the MAGA economy of Trump’s First Term…
https://thepostmillennial.com/ron-desantis-tells-wealthy-donors-trumps-china-tariffs-were-not-effective-report
https://thepostmillennial.com/donald-trump-issues-executive-order-for-companies-with-federal-contracts-to-use-us-iron-steel-and-aluminum
DeJedus: Make MAGA Safe for Globalism
Kennedy: Make MAGA Safe for the Administrative State
Vivek; Make MAGA Safe for Big Tech Offshoring in India
etc etc
only Trump can afford to transcend these institutional constraints and make Full Spectrum MAGA