REPOST BY REQUEST – In certain states, the RNC is committed to fighting today’s political battles with yesterday’s weapons. The RNC will not adapt, ever. For everyone else, the baseline reset is understood. If CTH had a small part in helping people to reset their reference points around modern electioneering, well, that’s a good thing.
The difference between “ballots” and “votes” is previously explained {SEE HERE} and absolutely critical to understand before moving forward.
Thankfully, a large percentage of conservatives, intellectually honest independents and even some GOPe donors, have read our research and are now starting to have the ‘votes‘ vs ‘ballots‘ conversation. That understanding is critical, because any conversation that does not accurately identify and accept the problem is futile.
Having said that, do not think we are smarter than the RNC. We are not. The RNC knows exactly what not to do. They are following instructions from the multinationals and Wall Street Sea Island donors. Do not miss this point or you miss the ‘ah-ha‘ moment.
In 2022, the RNC club knew exactly what the DNC club were doing in their midterm “ballot submission assistance” program. Yes, that’s exactly what “ballot harvesting” is called now. “Ballot Harvesting” is illegal in many states, “Ballot Submission Assistance” is not.
Progressive political activists in the state of Arizona scrubbed the footprints of their ballot submission assistance programs. Wait, Arizona(?) you say. Yes, Arizona a state where “ballot harvesting” is illegal, but email, fax, online and in person drop-off is possible. Ballot submission assistance is essentially the same harvesting process but in a smaller and more individualized scale and it is perfectly legal in most states.
REFERENCE and CONTEXT is critical to understanding.
After Eric Holder left the Obama administration as Attorney General, he was hired by the State of California to defend against the Trump administration in early January 2017 (LINK).
Why?
When Eric Holder left the Obama administration, his firm was contracted by California during a process of linking the motor vehicle registration files to the Secretary of State voter registration system. Holder was advising on part of a technology system being constructed to bridge the DMV and SoS offices. You might know this as a “Motor/Voter” process. However, former AG Eric Holder had a very specific function in the construction of this technology bridge.
The process of adding voters to the registration rolls when they receive or update their driver’s license was seen as an opportunity to expand the voter rolls. Making the voter rolls as big as possible is the key to the utilization of mass mail-out balloting. I will skip the part where California started giving illegal aliens drivers licenses for a moment – you can obviously see how that would play with motor/voter rolls – instead I am choosing just to focus on the specifics of the Holder aspect.
The DMV needed to connect to the SoS office. This was simply a part of a tech system that needed to be built. CTH has previously spoken with the lead engineer, a member of a very small technology group, who worked in the California information technology (IT) unit that was tasked with building the system that connected the DMV to the SOS. [NOTE: I invite the state of California to sue me, as they will likely claim what you are about to read is not true.]
In the process of connecting the two state networks together, there needed to be a “flag” – essentially a check box, where the applicant to the DMV would attest to being legally authorized to vote. It is a positive affirmation, a check box, that says the Driver’s License holder affirms they are legally eligible to vote. That affirmation (the technical flag in the process), when affirmed, then transmits the information to the SoS office with the DL operator identity, and the California driver is automatically added to the SoS rolls and registered to vote.
During the time when Eric Holder was the legal counsel for the California Secretary of State, the technology team was constructing the internal data processing systems.
The lead engineer in the unit was instructed to code the data transfer in such a way that even if the “check box” was left unchecked, the registration data would transmit from the DMV to the SoS office.
Essentially, instead of only those who affirmed their legal eligibility by checking the box, everyone -including those who did not check the box- would get a DL and would automatically have their information transmitted to the SoS office. Everyone who received a driver’s license or state issued id was automatically going to be registered to vote, regardless of their legally authorized status. That request led the engineer to contact me.
I wrote about it, published the details, then the engineer freaked out, as he/she realized there was only a very limited number of people who could expose the issue. He/She was worried about his/her safety and family and asked me to remove the article. This background is how I know the details of who, what, when and why the California mass mailing ballot process was being constructed.
In the 2018 midterm elections, we all watched the outcome of that process surface in the weeks following election day. As each day passed more and more California mail-in ballots were being counted and day-by-day Republicans, who won on election day 2018, watched their lead evaporate.
What happened in the California 2018 midterm election surrounding state-wide ballot distribution, collection (harvesting) and eventual presentation to the counting and tabulation facilities, was the BETA test for the 2020 covid-inspired national ballot mailing process.
The outcome we saw in the 2022 midterm ballot collection program was not just similar to the 2020 general election ballot collection program, it is a direct outcome of the refined BETA test from 2018. Now, we have multiple states following the California mass distribution of ballots approach. Washington state, California, Arizona, Colorado, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, New York, New Jersey, Michigan; there’s a long list.
In many states mass mailing of ballots is now codified in election law. Activist election lawyer Marc Elias came in, behind the construction by Eric Holder, with the legal arguments to support the ballot collection programs.
The Importance of Election Rolls – As you can see from the California initiation point (Motor/Voter), in order to most effectively use the mass distribution of ballots as an electioneering process, you first need a massive state secretary voter file in order to generate, then mail, the physical ballots.
Remember, votes require people – ballots require systems.
Any institutional system that can link people into the SoS system to generate a larger registration file for ballot distribution is a net positive. The key point is not to generate voters, the key is to generate ballots – the more the better. Mass printing of ballots is the origin of the electioneering process.
Any state or federal system that links a physical identity to the secretary of state voter rolls is good. Any system, like the USPS postal change of address system, that would remove physical identities from the state voter rolls is not useful. The goal is to maximize the number of systems that generate registration, that eventually generates ballots.
Beyond the Driver’s License issue, it’s everything. Sign up for public assistance, get registered to vote. Sign up for state benefits, get registered to vote. Sign up for a state id, get registered to vote. Sign up for state college, get registered to vote. Sign up for a grant, get registered to vote. Sign up for unemployment, get registered to vote. Sign up for any state system and get registered to vote. Get married, change names, change addresses, etc, that’s how the voter rolls expand and that’s how the massive distribution of ballots is created.
The states then fight against anything, any effort, any process, that would purge voter rolls or fix incorrect voting rolls. To use the new electioneering system, the system operators need ballots created, they no longer need votes. They need ballots.
Downstream from this process, that’s where you find the “ballot submission assistance” programs. This is where the local community networks, regional activist groups and widespread community organizers come into play. Instead of advertising or the previous electioneering systems around candidate promotion and Get Out The Vote (GOTV) efforts, the majority of donations to the DNC are now used in the ballot assistance programs.
SIDEBAR – Now keep in mind, the origination of the ballots starts with expanded voter rolls. The rolls contain the registry status of people, regardless of their accuracy or inaccuracy.
If you were going to hire a printing company to send out fancy wedding invitations, you would need to provide that third-party with the names, addresses and details of the invitation recipients, right? Now, overlay ballots into a similar framework. Do you remember the recent issue of Konnech (CEO Eugene Yu), an election technology company, indicted for transmitting the data files of every registered voter in Pennsylvania (and more) to China?
Inside that Konnech story is how the modern ballot creation issue connects to the activity of Eugene Yu. Did pre-printed ballots arrive en-mass, in the U.S.A, as a result of the massive data files transmitted to China? That might be a sticky-widget for quite a few interests. Then again, what state just dropped the charges against Yu on the day after the midterm election? Oh, California. I digress…
The RNC and DNC are Corporations. Please understand that both the RNC and DNC are not government entities. They are each private corporations with their individual agenda, rules and memberships. These are corporations that function more like private clubs.
When it comes to ballot collection, as a newly enhanced modern electioneering process, the RNC club isn’t incompetent or stupid, they knew what the DNC club was doing.
The RNC club operated in the 2022 midterm election to support (willful blindness) the DNC club effort. Why? Because the RNC club wants to remove the problems they have with the populist movement. The issues are big.
The RNC Club wants, as billionaire donor Ken Griffin explained from his discussions with Ronna McDaniel, Ron DeSantis and Kevin McCarthy, to remove the populist elements within the Republican Party, vis-a-vis MAGA, and realign with the multinational corporations on Wall Street. “He wants to improve the diversity of the GOP and blunt the vein of populism that has complicated the party’s relationship with the corporate world — two things he’s consulted with House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy about.” (link)
As you can see, the issue of “votes” -vs- “ballots”, is not a singular issue for American voters. We have a mixed bag of mutually aligned common enemies in this process.
Republican politicians will support any process, including mass mailout ballot distribution and collection, regardless of its corrupt status, that will eliminate what they define as the problem within their club.
Their problem has a face….
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RNC Agenda making sense now?
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Unfortunately Illinois!
Hawai’i here, the nevermind state!
I live in California (NorCal), but in Orange County (SoCal), Pastor Jack Hibbs had a ballot drop box placed in their church. They encouraged people to drop off their ballots and would help those needing help.
Pastor Jack Hibbs said that a few races were turned red after this last election. He believes this simple act helped turn those races.
If someone goes to this church, please correct me if I wrote something wrong.
Love Jack Hibbs!
Used to live in Hawaii Kai near Hanama Bay. Damn shame what they’ve done to that state since I left in 2008. It was already going super far left. But it was still tolerable.
MA, the foregone conclusion state.
Illinois has been this way since Judy Baar Topinka handed it to the Democrats in the late 1990’s.
I live in VA. Is there something I should do because I live in this state? Just seeing if I missed something in the article.
Thanks Sundance for the VERY accurate analysis of what is happening.
Yep, I missed the connection as well.
Under northam, virginia tied itself to California, so what they do, by law, we do..they ban cars by 2030, we ban cars by 2030, etc
Cite that legislation please if you know it. Meantime i will do some checking. On its face what you state is unreasonable and would have made national headlines.
I live in NOVA and have heard nothing of the sort. If this is true then we need to do everything possible to subvert this. Doesn’t sound plausible, unless the poster is speaking hyperbolically.
Who in NoVA would tell you the truth about something like this?
See:
https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/3619975-virginia-ag-says-state-bound-by-california-rule-phasing-out-new-gas-powered-cars/
Nope, it’s for real. As Cali goes so goes Va. I don’t think it’s a total ban on cars, just gas-powered cars,
It did.
https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/3619975-virginia-ag-says-state-bound-by-california-rule-phasing-out-new-gas-powered-cars/
True.
http://www.nbc29.com/2022/08/31/virginias-tie-california-law-causing-split-opinions-over-vehicle-standards/
http://www.13newsnow.com/article/money/cars/virginia-may-follow-california-2035-ban-new-gas-vehicles-state-law/291-0dafe379-1a08-4fab-96b1-cec3e859c01f
Won’t change unless we take back control of the state senate (while keeping the house and the guv).
Wow, that’s incredibly disappointing. Time to get to work. Another hurdle to surmount.
I grew up in Virginia. Knew we were in trouble when the Clintonistas turned their attention on us. So many bad governors, I don’t want to try and name them all.
Yes, we know about the car emissions law, but that has nothing to do with voting. What is this article referring to?
I’m in VA too. I need to check this out, but I think the Ds tried to pass a law making automatic mail-out of ballots to everyone. I don’t think it went through — not completely. What they got through was you can apply to always get a ballot mailed to you. This option makes sense for disabled, etc., but we all know it will be massively abused.
I think VA dodged the bullet that hit PA. They are captured. They won’t be able to get control of their government because the voting system is captured.
Wasn’t firing everyone in VA’s Dept of Elections and the Dept of Ed part of Youngkin’s “Day One” promise list?? I clearly remember him repeatedly campaigning on that.
And he is going to run for POTUS against Trump. Youngkin’s a stinking globalist.
President Trump learned the lesson. He thought he could swamp the Democrats with Election Day voting, only to learn too late you can never beat LATE voting. For 2024 he’s all in on ballot harvesting in the states where that is legal. Which won’t stop the Democrats from trying to repeat 2020 and 2022, but at least with a large unknown number of GOP vote by mail in the mix they won’t know exactly how many they need, or where.
True, but the 2020 Selection had irrefutable evidence of more votes cast than eligible voters in many states….and, nothing was done about it. Just like a fence dissuades “honest” criminals from entering your property, “real” Unipary criminals will always find a way to steal elections.
You lose every game where you refuse to compete. A forefeit is the same as a loss.
You can’t lose if you don’t participate in a rigged game. The only ones losing are the people still participating in the fraud and ignoring the happenings behind the curtain.
Are you going to say that the spectators are losing when one side loses the game?
You absolutely can lose an election you do not vote in.
I revoked my consent and no longer participate in the fraudulent government we have. Thus, I don’t lose. I don’t have any stakes in the matter.
As long as you’re vertical and sucking American air and standing on American dirt-your butt is in the grasp of the DeepState… get your mind right
My mind is right. Is yours?
Show me in the Constitution where I am mandated to vote for traitors? Show me where I have to participate. Oh you can’t because those clauses do not exist.
How much do you know of the Constitution? I bet you don’t know a single clause in it.
So…You’re no longer a participant in the fraudulent government, okay, then don’t pay your taxes and see what happens.
Yeah, cause that strategy of conscientous objector has worked out SO well for the 50 percent of the population that have refused to vote, since forever.
Non-voters have ALWAYS justified their non-participation the same way;
“Theres no difference, D or R, and my votes not going to change anything, so why should I bother?”
And no, they will NOT be able to cheat “like they did in 2020”.
And we know this because several decisive methods they used in 2020, and that were subsequently exposed after (“Dominion weighted voting” aka “drop and role” in conjunction with centralised ballot envelope stuffing operations exposed with 2000 mules)
were NOT used in 2022, even in “must steal” Maracopa County.
All the methods that WERE used in 2022, in Maracopa County, have/are now being exposed in KL’s lawsuits, and so may well also be “off the menu” in 2024.
NONE of those methods would have worked, if KL voters had not insisted on voting ON election day, IN PERSON.
MUCH of their effort involved VOTER SUPPRESSION, because they simply could not stuff enough, to overcome KL’s YUGE “legitimate vote” margin of victory and so HAD to supress her voters votes, in order to steal it.
Its much harder to steal against a landslide, than against a 51/49 legit vote margin.
Besides, WHAT HAVE YOU GOT TO LOSE?
It costs NOTHING, not even time to go down, on election day and stand in line.
Request absentee)early ballot. Fill out. Return.
Wow, real hard.
How many times do you have to bang your head into a wall before you realize the Wall Won’t Move? Playing the same ole “we’ll vote even harder next time” Does Not Work! We must stop playing by “their” rules. We CAN turn this around with paper ballots, in-person voting and Election DAY…..not, Selection Month voting! That is how WE WIN….(not trying to “out-cheat” a Rigged game).
I don’t lose anything by revoking my consent. The die has been cast and all I can do is pray to God that Jesus comes back.
Besides, some of us just are amused at the sheer justifications and pretzel bending “logic” that invested people like you put yourselves into just to pull the R lever over the D one.
A loser says what?
What a compelling argument to vote for the R’s you have there…
/s
More compelling than your argument to stand aside, doing nothing at all, leaving the Democrats unopposed.
Did I hurt your fee fees and make you cry?
There is no Democrats or Republicans. There is only the UniParty and it’s hilarious that you ignore all of SD’s articles about it. Keep pulling that R lever and see if it changes. I’m laughing at your ignorance and think you can vote your way out of this.
You’re what we call a “surrender monkey.” Take your cancer elsewhere, your hopelessness and despair have no place here.
No, I didn’t surrender. I walked away. There is a difference.
What about the loyalty pledge to the RNC huh? Keep pulling that lever and supporting the UniParty because I’m laughing at your stupidity.
You are free to not read my comments or reply. I am free to post here until SD tells me to leave. You are not him, so sit down princess and cool your jets. This slave is a freedman and you hate it because I’m not on your plantation no more.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/guidelines-for-comments/
The Leon Trotsky gambit to end Russia’s involvement in WW I: Quit and walk away.
Whereupon the Germans overran Russia, seized everything they wanted, and imposed their terms.
Fortunately for the Russians the Western Allies compelled Germany to give it all back.
The same way we’ll save your ass, quitter.
Welcome to “moderation”.
Are you crazy? If you don’t even try, then when they get in power without a fight they know they’ve broken your will to go on. That’s big time losing.
I agree that we are up against a stacked deck, but don’t you EVER give up. That’s pathetic. You give your best in every venue you’re fighting. Never cede ground to these scum. MAKE them spend billions on their efforts. MAKE them use their resources. Cheating how they do costs then a ton of money. MAKE them spend it. Don’t just give it to them. f’n A.
As President Donald J Trump, and Rocky Balboa have both said, “Keep Moving Forward”. No matter what, take the hits and KEEP MOVING FORWRD. We need FIGHTERS. Not people that stamp their feet, take their ball, and March home.
Damn.
Yeah how did my vote work out in 2020? Oh it didn’t.
It’s hilarious to see you run that hamster wheel to justify participating in the rigged elections and keep pulling the R lever. SD made it abundantly clear that the R’s have no concern about you or I. They are not owed any loyalty. This government is not owed any loyalty either after they’ve levied war against us.
You clearly didn’t read what I wrote. So good job with that. Just bend over and take it. But FYI, it’s gonna get a lot harder and a lot less lube when you allow them to grow their war chest to an insurmountable level.
With teammates like you who needs competition.
And based on the level of snark in your post I’m willing to bet you’re a leftist. So go pound sand with your nonsense. Go preach to the kink pedo scum you’re used to being around.
*Yawn* Shaming tactics and ad hominems now for not following the R lemmings off the cliff.
They already control the purse strings at all levels of government. Do you honestly think that you’re going to bankrupt two nearly 200 year old political parties that have been pulling this crap way before we were even a twinkle in our great great great granddaddy’s eyes?
I’m a leftist for swearing to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States while bearing true faith to the same?
Can you show me where at in the Constitution that I have to vote? Where I have to vote Republican? Can you show me where the Republican and Democrat Parties are at in the Constitution?
If your loyalty is to a party and not the Constitution then you are no team mate of mine.
As for the rest, I’m reporting you. I don’t need your crap because you can’t handle a different opinion.
Who said you “have” to vote? You keep saying that to everyone. Nobody said you had to vote. But the results you think you gain from “withdrawing your consent” aren’t going to be what you claim to want. You’re arguments make no sense.
And go ahead and report me. I genuinely don’t care. But the fact you want to silence someone that is willing to fight for the good of America tells me all I need to know about you. You’re a troll. You’re not clever. You’re thin skinned. And you give up at the first sign of resistance. EXCEPT when arguing with freedom loving Americans. Hmmmmmm. Interesting. And we wonder how we got where we are today.
Good work, winner!!!
I don’t care if the government collapses or if it continues on in its fascistic current state that you support with voting.
I didn’t say you couldn’t, so you’re lying again. I reported you for calling me a pedo when I survived being molested as a child.
You’re not freedom loving when you participate in the banana republic. How we got here today is cheerleaders like you always pulling the lever and participating while hoping for a different result. You are the definition of insanity.
Wow…..Bshaw, I guess someone with a differing opinion than yours really draws your ire. Do me a favor: Vote Harder next time! I’m sure it’ll work. Those rascally Dem wabbits wouldn’t dare try to steal an election again! Right, Bshaw?
Re-read what I wrote. Even if we can’t win, making them use resources HURTS them.
But hey, Elmer Fudd, keep doing what you’re doing. You’re the big winner here.
They control the purse strings of every single government from local to national. You aren’t going to hurt them financially since both parties are nearly 200 years old.
I’m laughing at you.
Ok go ahead and laugh. When you say they control the power of the purse strings you are talking about an entirely different sector of the situation. The people running the ground game have to codger that money up to pay the foot soldiers from “donors” and campaigns etc.
You’re conflating two sources of revenue. So your laughing makes sense since you don’t grasp the entire picture.
They control the Federal Reserve which is a private banking cartel. You had a point right?
I’m still laughing at you because your ignorance is hilarious.
Worked out pretty good in 2016!
But then you say you refuse to vote for traitors, so do you consider PDJT to be a “traitor”?
Dutch, I think him and Carlton Banks are insinuating that PDJT won’t be on the ticket. And they could be right, since they are right about everything else maybe they are. But my guess is they (or he/she) voted for HRC in 2016. So no, their vote didn’t work then.
This is what we call a lie.
I never said a word about President Trump.
I voted for President Trump in 2016 and 2020.
It’s not a lie when it’s MY guess. I never said unequivocally you voted for anyone. Laugh away
It’s a lie. What are you 2 years old?
The only hope to beat this system is enough Democrats/Independents cross over and actually vote for Trump because of the economy stupid.
There are few states more corrupt than the communist state of Washington. The vote by mail fraud system has been in place here for 20 years. Just look at the leftist eunuch fairy governor and the midget nazi Attorney General. If there’s a globalist leftist scam those two can force on the state, they’ve already done it. Cathy McMorris Rodgers the congressional GOP representative from Washington’s 5th district
( far eastern Washington ) just responded to an email I sent her office re the disaster of the debt ceiling scam. Her response was so rino in support of the trash, I couldn’t delete the bs fast enough. The state gop are absolutely pathetic. When I contact any of their offices, they just don’t bother responding at all. Washington is a lost cause.
THIS! Sadly my son did an internship for her office in Spokane the last two months. It really opened his eyes at exactly how loud money talks.
NC Rep Chuck Edwards sent me a reply for his support for the House Freedom Caucus and vote on the Debt increase bill with the same BS. I told him Thank you for showing your RINO colors and that from here on out he will not be receiving our vote since we see his Pretending efforts to screw the people over the Globalist and Wall Street crowd. I told him only a MAGA or democrat would get my vote in the future and that I would work against his efforts at the local level.
Why would you ever vote for a Democrat? They are complete opposite of MAGA!
I left Tacoma 2 years ago and am so happy I did. The eastern part is reasonable, but the Seattle Olympia corridor is gone. If you can get out…do. Let the western coast go to Hell. They’re headed there and you won’t stop them.
We left Seattle in 1988 due to a promotion for my husband, and an opportunity to live closer to my widowed mother. This occurred after fourteen years of cross-continental land-line phone calls, and plane trips back to southern New England for visits.
The departure from the Pacific NW was sad for all of us at the time, especially for our school-age sons, but thank God we had the opportunity to relocate. This area of PA was still very red, very sensible, and home to many family farms. Sadly, this is all changing, and not for the better.
Don’t ask me about the politics under the PA state dome. I’ve ranted enough about it all in these threads for several years. Power crazed, win-at-any-cost Dems, and feckless, cowardly, see-no-evil Republicans, are all operating from the same playbook, with neither the interest nor the brass accoutrements to restore free and fair elections in Pennsylvania.
I first encountered election fraud in Washington State in the 2000 Federal election. Not a typo. The Republican county auditor and Secretary of State allowed thousands of unverified provisional ballots to be counted even though everyone knew the voters were unregistered and had been bussed to selected precincts associated with a taxpayer funded college. The only reason I know this is because I was an election observer. The Republican Party never recovered. It’s virtually impossible to have a legitimate statewide election with the current election laws and procedures. If all else fails, there are plenty of pristine ballots sent to Dem friendly homeless mail-drops.
What happens when states like PA will count the mail ballots before voting day, and the totals are leaked so they know how many they need to reverse that total? I have always voted election day, and I always will.
Both strategies have pros and cons.
Diane,
Voter suppression is just TOO easy, when WE stick to voting the way we THINK voting should be done (on election day, in person) instead if the way it IS done (voting month, mail out ballots to all).
If you live on a State where they mail out ballots to all registered voters, you may well have gotten some mailed to your house, and thrown them in the trash.
Someone paid a ‘trash picker’ to recover it and many others ($5 ea) filled it out, fakes a signature and fed it in early in the voting ‘month’.
YOU go in on election day, and are told you ALREADY voted, according to their records, by mail in ballot.
You insist you didn’t, and so they give you a ‘provisional’ ballot to fill out.
Once the bogus mail out ballot with your voter i.d. info is accepted, the BALLOT is seperated from the envelope, so even IF they tried to ‘adjudicate’ it, there are NO DO-OVERS, that ballots votes have already been counted.
Meanwhile, yours will only be counted, if the vote totals are so close, that the provisional ballots could change the results.
Smile, you have just been disenfranchised!
Which wouldn’t have happened if you just educated yourself on HOW the system works.
Oh, and breaking the machines at your polling place on election day, would not have impacted your vote either, if you voted early in person or mail ballot, either.
Voting harder won’t work, but voting smarter, will.
Keep saying what you are saying, Dutch. To as many as you can. I was suckered in 2020 about “vote on election day only”, watched what happened and realized we had all walked directly into their trap.
One does not have to like the rules of the game being played. One only needs to apply this rules in the best way possible in order to WIN.
We walk into their traps repeatedly because we (R voters) don’t think darkly, as do our “opponents”. Now, however, “we” refers strictly to Republican voters, because those whom we elect to represent us have gleefully leaped over the edge to dwell with the Dark Side of the Force.
“BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY”
Yup, that’s their one-way ticket to paradise.
And yes, I do stand by the generalization in the 1st statement above.
Since NY ballots are generic and untraceable once they leave the envelopes, I’m pretty sure the “ballot counters” quickly disappear the ones they don’t want. Generic ballots are too easily replaced using boxes of generic fakes.
NY also counts their mail-in ballots *after* the polls close on Election Day! How easy for them then, to keep those fake ballots coming in until they overturn the Election Day result.
They will count the votes election night and then the number needed to magically win will appear. This has gone on since the 90’s. Woody Jenkins (New Orleans came in with a bunch of late votes), Rossi vs Gregoire in Wash State Gov race, Al Franken’s first campaign (MN), Sanchez beating B1 Bob in Orange County CA…these are the ones I remember, there are probably a lot more.
It took 3 recounts, including the discovery of a car trunk full of uncounted ballots in King County (Seattle’s county), for Gregoire (D) to overcome Rossi (R) in the WA Governor’s race of 2004. And while that fraud drew attention from the rest of the country, here in WA we knew that it was just a part of a long-standing tradition of election corruption on the part of Seattle-King County Democrats.
The Tacoma Daily Ledger, 8 Nov 1890 (a year after statehood), gives the following account under the headline King County’s Stolen Votes: “2000 were added to the population of Seattle in telegraphing the figures to the governor for the use of the legislature, after 3008 bogus names had already been added to the original count by the census office. This error gave King County two representatives in the legislature more than she is entitled to and is of course a fraud on all the rest of the state.” (This was during the time state legislatures selected US Senators; 20+ years before the 17th Amendment of the US Constitution providing for the direct election of senators.)
Yes, WA may be known for apples, lumber, salmon, rain, etc., but those things pale before the significance of Seattle/King County Democrats: the masters of election corruption. WA has 39 counties and the joke was once: 38 counties can be wrong (meaning S/KC determined the outcome of elections regardless of what the other counties did…like Chicago/Cook County in Illinois). Now, as “white flight” from King County to the rest of the state surges bringing with it its toxic orthodoxy, red counties have become fewer and fewer.
Some of us have been fighting at the very local level, the best place to fight, to change things. Joining with neighbors and getting fellow “America First” candidates on local school boards was a start. Also, taking over GOP precinct officer positions (fairly simple with such little interest and so many vacant positions) is a great way to project “America First” voices — we are not beholding to the state GOP, which is embarrassingly feckless. Small victories, but they are victories nonetheless. WA may seem like a lost cause, but there are many in the Evergreen State who think like us, employing different methods to battle against the Democrat machine. “Never give up. Never Surrender!”
DD, I especially appreciate what you said about taking precinct officer positions; now suggest you try moving up the chain.
As you say, without a lot if RINO’s bothering to participate/attend county conventions, you can move in an ARMY of MAGA, and unseat the county executive board and chair, then do same at the State.
They will fight, of coarse but the further up the line, the more control MAGA has, the less the RINOS have, and the whole lower MAGA can leave the party en mass, if they deny PDJT the nomination having a “ready made” party organisation to campaign for HIM.
For rigging it is hard to top the FBI/DOJ with Trump 2016, Hunter’s laptop 2020 and Ted Stevens in 2008 when Stevens was indicted and tried right before the election. The appeals nudge threw out the case but by then the Dem was in office.
They rigged 2018 to lose the HoR.
Of COARSE they did. It was a necesary part of the Insurance policy, that Paul Ryan committed to in 2015.
Never liked Eddie Munster, he’s always been a sleaze ball.
Joe will get 150M votes next election!
Exceptionally clear exposition of the problem.
Solution?
None
Conclusion::
Say good-bye to the American Republic
You leaving?
The American Republic died on April 12, 1861 when Dictator Lincoln invaded South Carolina for the third time and removed their right to leave the Union at gunpoint.
Spot on, Preacher!
And in the succeeding 4 years, as he concentrated power in the hands of the Feds, ignored the Constitution, suspended habeas corpus, restricted States’ rights, and created what has become the Deep State Federal behemoth, he strangled the remaining life out of the Republic.
Are you the director of corporate counter intelligence?
Quite possibly the 2024 election will mark the beginning of re-establishing the American Republic long ago envisioned by our Founders,..one way or another.
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Yuck. What a pathetic simplification of that exhausting moment in our History. I guess maybe you wish you had a handful of slaves today to do your chores for you ? I’m surprised that a CTH reader/commenter can be so shallow.
Trump is up against the same Deep State Lincoln was up against in his day. I suggest you put your big boy pants on and get in the fight.
Easy, he threatens to tell on those that question him…
I think he just schooled him
I didn’t even mention American Bastille: A History of the Illegal Arrests and Imprisonment of American Citizens During the Late Civil War by John A. Marshall published in 1871.
https://archive.org/details/americanbastille00mars
What you think that Bush Jr. thought up illegal imprisonment under the Patriot Act was new? Lincoln did it using the Pinkertons at first. 🙂
Never argue with a historian of 41 years. Especially one that studied American history from 1600-1875.
Let’s review what Dictator Lincoln had to say about it shall we? These are his words from his first inaugural address.
Lincoln was for slavery and presented the Corwin Amendment that would have made slavery legal forever. There is the matter that Lincoln overturned the Fremont Proclamation that freed every single slave in the state of Missouri in 1861. He also fired General Fremont for insubordination over said proclamation.
There were more slave states inside the Union that outside of it. Slavery was legal in 20 states and didn’t free any slaves until after Lincoln was worm food and the ratification of the 13th Amendment.
Back to what Lincoln said in his address.
What happened on March 2, 1861? Oh the Morrill Tariff that levied a 75% combined tax rate on southern imported goods. This address was given on March 4, 1861.
As for his entire poppycock about the union being forever, I give you two esteemed Virginia gentlemen.
James Madison of the Virginia Constitutional Convention and author of the Constitution of the United States
Eight other states had the same provision in their ratification law.
President Thomas Jefferson March 1, 1801 when facing the succession of New England for him being elected as president.
Thomas Jefferson of the Committee of Five in the Declaration of Independence dated July 4, 1776.
The only one that oversimplified history is you. I stated the fact that Lincoln was a Dictator and that he invaded South Carolina for the third time on April 12, 1861. I failed to give the details of the US Naval fleet that had entered the harbor at midnight with orders to resupply the fort. If said resupply was impossible then the ships were to disembark Union troops to capture Charleston.
Shall you continue and I make fun of you?
Preacher
There’s a lot things you said tonight I disagree with but I respect your opinion(s) and decision(s).
Having said that, this is an impressive post. I’m a lifelong student of history myself. Up until the last decade, my favorite was the War Between the States as we Southerners call it (or the War of Northern Aggression).
It is probably the most revised history subject matter taught in error intentionally in academia and presented to the public in the last half century or so.
You are spot on! You left out tons that are citable (and I know you know that) and along with an infiltration of a ‘fifth column’ shortly thereafter the was the beginning of what we are experiencing and coming to a head today.
For everyone out there that wants to know the history from a Southern perspective contemporary to the era when it occurred and that is damn near irrefutable by a well respected journalist of the times, I suggest you read what was considered a historical masterpiece in its time, ‘The Lost Cause’ by E O Pollard. That publication was literally where the term that is now mocked and derided came from.
In more recent times, ‘The South Was Right’ by James and Walter Kennedy
In sum, it was about economic tyranny and State’s Rights per the compact known as the Constitution ‘for’ the United States. The wealth, regardless of how it was being generated, was being stripped in mass and exponentially larger from the South to benefit politically connected Northern Establishment interests while a political disenfranchisement of their vote was simultaneously being eroded.
Just like MAGA and Main Street are now!!
For those who want to know the true character of Lincoln (one of the first and most notorious establishment figures), try ‘The Real Lincoln’ by Thomas J DiLorenzo. How Lincoln is portrayed today is a complete LIE and the records of the time reveal it if you take the time to research.
Before anyone challenges this, I suggest you read these 3 publications, do your best to research and disprove anything in them.
If you do so, you will come away of a new perspective about the Civil War, its real causes, the results of the aftermath and how it relates to the issues of today.
Guaranteed!!
Thank you for the compliment. All that matters is that people are entitled to their opinions and disagreements are okay. As long as it’s discussed without ad hominems and shaming we can accomplish much.
I’m a southerner and call it the War of Northern Taxes. I’ve done the genealogy of my dad’s side of the family. I’ve got a member of the Mayflower, George Washington, and other luminaries in my family tree. I understand the burden of tradition.
A good resource for anyone is The Confederate Reprint Company.
https://confederatereprint.com/
They have books available that were suppressed by the federal government to cover up their crimes.
Lincoln and the Republicans were always for corporate welfare that were called internal improvements.
If people knew how much Lincoln hated blacks and how he wanted to ship them all out of the US they wouldn’t defend him at all.
Second Confiscation Act of 1862
SEC. 12. And be it further enacted, That the President of the United States is hereby authorized to make provision for the transportation, colonization, and settlement, in some tropical country beyond the limits of the United States, of such persons of the African race, made free by the provisions of this act, as may be willing to emigrate, having first obtained the consent of the government of said country to their protection and settlement within the same, with all the rights and privileges of freemen.
I disagree, the end of the American Republic was 1913. That was the year the central bank was formed and the income tax enacted. We all became slaves after 1913.
We became slaves after the end of the War for Northern Taxes. You ignore the fact that Lincoln issued green backs and had an income tax long before 1913.
The Republic died in 1861. since then we have been an ever increasing federal dictatorship. We are now in the final stages. There is only one solution. localize your freedoms and prepare for the coming collapse.
Interesting that two of you cited 1861 as the year we lost America. I don’t think I’ve seen that posted here, and now two of you.
Tag team,..?
Nope I don’t know that person.
I’ve posted it before.
It’s been posted here before but I cite this from memory rather than evidence.
The Republic is gone. It is just a matter of what Black Swan sets it off. We are over 100 Trillion in Debt before the new 4 Trillion. At some point the dollar will be worth less than the paper it is printed on.
That point may well be this next month, when 81 countries start the process to convert their reserves to gold backed currencies.
As the main contenders seem to be Rusdia, China or India, I am guessing India will be the big winner, cause given those choices, which one would you trust the most?
Once they do any countries holding U.S. Treasuries is playing musical chairs, and risks holding worthless paper.
Hold on, its comimg.
Election integrity is an uphill battle.
But hope is not lost.
Some MAGA county officials have learned that, in their State, the County determines procedure, and can count the ballots themselves.
And then there’s this technology that helps identify fraud in voter rolls. https://www.omega4america.com/
In my State of Michigan, elections are administered at the local level. Because of where I live, I’d be confident in having a mail in or early vote be counted properly.
ALL elections are local, how our founders intended things to be run from the ground up.
Great to hear you all are fighting the fight locally – same here now in OK.
PRECINCTS!!!
The election boards are run by two private corporations and run it as a racket. How is that fighting back when the UniParty controls the entire thing locally to nationally? I’m highly amused by this thinking.
Our founding fathers didn’t want us to have political parties and only landowners to vote. They also wanted all votes to be public.
In each State it is more or less the same; the major ballot fraud is concentrated in the large metro areas, cause thats where its easiest to hide it.
Being on the edge of one of those large metro areas, local involvement in my particular county is having echoes statewide! We took back the state GOP for America First, did not quite succeed in our county, but made it clear to county GOP that we are the ones with energy, vision, and determination and they can’t win without us or get rid of us; now even with RINOs in the main positions, I think our county party is being directed by America First!
Yes! They are local in Detroit too.
This problem is only one of many methods of stealing an election (registering fake voters, inserting fake ballots in ballot collection boxes, inserting fake ballots during counting, misprinting certain ballots, breaking some machines and not others, messing with tabulator hardware or software, passing incorrect totals to the next level, adding totals incorrectly, displaying incorrect totals, etc.), any one of which is well-practiced and usable to steal the whole election. We don’t have time to get rid of or work around all of them.
We have to demand precinct-level, hand-counted, paper-ballot elections on Election Day (military/overseas ballots have to be far more controlled – double opt-in at least, as you have to do to get on an email list). There are now multiple models of how to do this (as if we didn’t ALL use to do this a few decades ago!)
One is the Missouri model, recently tested in an election with great success:
https://frankspeech.com/article/return-hand-counting-missouri-elections-emanual
The Hand Count Road Show is coming to various counties starting in Texas, to demonstrate a mock election: https://handcountroadshow.org/
Or look at the explanation for “Mock County, Texas” https://mockcountytx.us/election-results?precinct=001
Then there is the “Plexiglass Process”
https://rumble.com/v2b8cbq-the-plexiglass-ballot-box-process.html
which is actually based on fraud prevention efforts of the past
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smithsonian-institution/glass-ballot-box-was-answer-voter-fraud-19th-century-180976171/
Just stick your finger in a bottle of ink.
Sure am glad you weren’t around at the founding …
No wonder they don’t fear us. We just give up and go into our hidey holes if it requires change on our part.
The Uniparty LIED and made people think they won thru ballet harvesting. AGAIN another plausible deniability play to cover a real steal.
2024 election PDJT will do the ballet harvesting people believe they mostly won by… to demonstrate the steal and no more excuses or lies.
then Purge
The situation at Valley Forge was as bleak if not more so. And you have a good pair of shoes I’ll bet. Stop being pessimistic. Try to turn a few people this month. Send a Sundance Article to a few people you still might be Facebook with. Nothing to lose by trying.
Remember when (supposedly) China sent “seed packets” to many addresses in the U.S. about 5 years ago? I wonder if that was to somehow validate addresses to create ballots?
Sounds about the right timing for “testing” for the 2018 midterms following the Uniparty upset in 2016.
Russia = FBI
Iran = Jarret
I’ve never heard a better explanation. You’d think the mystery would have been solved by now.
Fraudulent ballots from overseas is a huge problem, which Konnech has been very happy to “help” with:
https://theauthorityq.substack.com/p/a-summary-of-konnech-products-and
It’s good to know how many names they use for these their little schemes. Ballot submission assistance. I’ll take that to heart. It’s always good to know these new names they give to their activities. Gun control is now “gun safety”, lol.
As far is it is legal and the Democrats are doing it, repubs, as buffoonish as the leadership is, must do likewise. Harvest as long as it is legal. It’s funny, because initially there was resistance from some people. But then we kept getting the same results in elections. Then they had no choice but to embrace the idea.
New York state also passed a law that no local DMV office in a county can access those voter registrations to determine whether anyone who registered that way is actually legally able to register to vote. So any illegal alien or anyone else not allowed to register can get registered and no one can check.
Motor voter was always about cheating
Sadly, Wisconsin voter.
Hello from western Wi. Our own republican, Robin Vos, wants no part of MAGA.
I live in Minnesota. There is no way this state does not have corrupt elections.
Jay Valentine at Omega4 anyone?
https://rumble.com/v2bwdok-tgps-jim-hoft-interviews-jay-valentine-from-omega4america.html
I read an article he wrote at American Thinker he seemed to have a solution all right and they have the background .
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2023/05/why_kari_lake_couldnt_close_the_deal.html
Right on,! I’ve been trying to find that article all day. Posted earlier today on this thread about this. We will continue to lose until we do “Real Time Analysis”
It’s not the ballot harvesting or the ballot collection that is the problem. They are doing all this electronically.
Checkers vs Chess
I for one am looking forward to the American MAGA folks taking up the challenge.
IMO the U.S. is on the verge of anarchy ( likely the rulers intent)
We’ll see, but my money is on President Trump and the MAGA supporters.
I am heading “ across the line” in 10 minutes to buy gas in Washington State.
The town is a shadow of its past self. Without Canadian visitors it would be significantly worse.
Cheers!
Dekester, even with exchange rate the way it is, it is still cheaper for gas. I also am looking for this challenge. I am sending this article to my AG here[Id] with questions on the situation here. Washington State is a shadow of its past self.
Yes…we save approximately 40 cents per litre, even with the exchange.
Our gas here in Greater Vancouver is $1.99 per litre.
Cheers!
Sumas or Blaine? I used to use Sumas quite often.
Blaine, and the border was ever so quiet both N and S.
The family dairy Eladeen ( spelling) has a retail outlet there.
I just had a fat strawberry cone..it was as usual sensational.
A new tavern restaurant type place has recently opened.
We like to support the enterprise…the food is reasonable, the location terrific and the staff are Gold.
Over the years we have bought U.S. dollars when rates were favourable and always use cash for gas and food.
We still have a few shekels in U.S. currency so the exchange is not an issue for us.
However it sure is for some.
Cheers!
Las Vegas was controlled by dingy harry for years. We legalized ballot harvesting statewide and almost every seat went to the commies minus governor and lt. Newest was the passed law with vague wording regarding threatening election workers. It’s a cesspool and is now east commiefornia. Elections in NV mean nothing. The republican party here is the worst and won’t do anything.
And it is STATE elected officials, and appointed by them buerocrats that administer these systems, and State R party officials that either place R elected officials in office, (“red” state) or passively aquiesce to placement of D officials in these elected positions (“blue” States) depending only on the outcome people like Ken Griffen desire.
If you understand infernal combustion engines, R State party officials are like the connecting rods, between the pistons and the crankshaft.
Take out the connecting rods, and there is no transfer of energy (pistons/donor class) to the crankshaft (elected and appointed officials/outcomes).
Break that link, the State Executive boards, and you wrest control of the State R party away from the RNC/GOPe donor class.
Another analogy; the donors supply the fuel for the bus, the Executive boards DRIVE the bus, and the elected officials are like,…hubcaps. They are ornamental only, and can be changed from red to blue at will, by the DRIVER.
Unseat and replace the DRIVER, and a fully functioning bus can go in a whole new direction.
Without Unseating the driver, trying to change the hubcaps is an excercise in futility; so long as THEY are driving the bus.
Dutchman once again you have isolated the key link in the GOP State boards. These boards have connections back to the county level. This is what needs to be changed at GOP state conventions. North Carolina State GOP Boards have this problem. They have been manipulating Primary elections for years by having many proxy candidates. Some of these candidates are ongoing from one year to another.
And people say I’m stupid for not voting in Michigan. No, I’m smart enough to realize that my vote and ballot are not needed. As such I have revoked my consent and refuse to participate. Let the entire thing burn to the ground.
That is a cop-out!!!
No, it’s called being realistic.
I revoke my consent to be governed by a traitorous government run by two private corporations that is for their benefit only. They are levying war against us and we’re not voting our way out of this.
Antrim County voter here. I so agree with you. The republicans in state government ignored documented election fraud in 2020 and reaped their reward in 2022. How we’re all screwed.
I even called the Speaker of the House, the county Republican board, and the state Republican board. Nobody bothered to call me back.
People think that I’m copping out for revoking my consent. No, it’s a realization that I’m not wanted or desired by my country that my ancestors paid their lives for.
Not wanted or desired…fair enough. That means it’s time to be the thorn in their side…like your ancestors probably were, before they paid with their lives.
If that ancestry means that much to you, than man up and throw sand in the gears.
I am. I’m not participating. What are you doing?
If you aren’t participating, then why do you come here and spread your particular brand of negativity?
If you’re going to drop out, then drop out.
We’ll win it or die trying without you.
Oh I’m sorry I didn’t realize that one had to be a member of the GOP Communist Party to post here. I failed to see that sign anywhere.
I come here to educate. Aren’t you learning how you’re on the UniParty plantation? Haven’t you absorbed anything that SD has written about the UniParty?
Why are you content on pushing any independent thinkers away?
Why are you for GOP fascism?
Well put. Makes you wonder, no? Great post.
Yeah the only one spreading negativity are the GOP communists like you.
As a citisen of your country, I must admit I concur, sir.
It’s hilarious that you act just like the Democrats. What difference are you then? Just keep pulling that R lever and hope for change!
Okay Der Kommissar. I get it that I must be on the GOP plantation with no freedom of thought. I must adhere to the GOP hivemind and be as much of a corporate fascist as I can. If I don’t then I’m not wanted by anyone in the GOP.
Incidentally where can I download the latest hivemind talking points to ensure that I am in the good graces of the fascist GOP?
Thanks Stalin for letting me know where I stand. I stand proudly next to my fourth great uncle George Washington that fought against political parties to preserve the country he fought to create. I also stand proudly behind all the veteran ancestors from the War of Independence up until Vietnam when my old man lost 63 of his best friends in an illegal war and had to bury him at 28 years old when he was 52. They sacrificed for my right to be an objector to the establishment.
Oh for my father’s service all he got was a flag and a tombstone from an ungrateful nation that murdered him in Vietnam while he had an honorable discharge.
If you will excuse me Stalin. I need to talk to others.
Curious, it costs you WHAT, exactly to vote?
A lot of EFFORT, Time and energy?
Is it too expensive to afford?
Lotta blood, sweat and tears?
You request a ballot, fill it out, drop it off.
Wow, thats SO difficult.
Your like that song,..
“I’ll never fall in love again”.
If you ain’t gonna get busy living, then get busy dieing.
Profit loss statement on voting huh?
My vote was erased by the ballot fraud in Detroit. Tell me again why I should vote for the party that didn’t want to listen to me and assure me that my vote would be protected?
Go ahead and reassure me that the nearly 200 year old Republican Party cares about my vote. I need a good laugh dutchman.
The GOP was stolen long before the vote was stolen. Here in my (supposedly very blue) state, WE TOOK IT BACK, and now we’re working on elections. If you’re not willing to do that, then shut up and get out of the way of those of us who are rebuilding our government.
Oh so you control the GOP National? I doubt it.
Have you removed the party requirements from all the election boards? No? What about the ballot requirements for independents?
If you answered no to all three then you haven’t taken anything back.
Nice to be told to shut up when I don’t fall into line. Are you a political commissar sent to ensure that I fall back onto the GOP plantation? Are you saying that I’m not allowed to have freedom of thought or conscience? Are you saying that I am a slave to the GOP?
It’s amazing how communistic GOP and Democrat card holders are. I’m certainly happy that I burned my GOP card.
NY here, hudson valley (Ulster Co.). They’re definitely up to something at the DMV. The last time I renewed my license I had to do the eye test. Went in to the DMV to deal with it. They had an ipad at every service window related to voter registration. The jerky that was “helping” me made me click through (one click) to say that I didn’t want to register to vote (I’m already registered). This was after giving me a “register to vote” question directly from said Jerky. I was irritated and knew what was going on at that time. I almost gave her a hard time about it, but ended up just dealing with my license and getting the hell out of there. That was in March of 2022.
I bet the “eye test” included a retinal i.d. scan.
Did the jerky say “smile” before he administered it?
Your photo has definetly been put through “facial recognition” and “coded”.
Next they will want a DNA sample.
PA, and our governor and state houses won’t be Changing those rules ,were screwed!
The issue as I see it is whether or not all eligible voters ought to vote.
If Trump doesn’t win in 2024, we are going to become the United States of California.
Trump isn’t going to win
Prepare best you can
You had best stop posting, as you have no longer have any interest in the out come.
Oh yes I plenty of interest!
But I don’t rely on hopium
Or the corrupted system itself to fix the problem
Like you think will happen
I only rely on myself.
And isn’t preparing for the worst is the logical and smart thing
After witnessing the last decade?
Or do I think like you and when the lights go out
Hope the government will save me?
“nobody plans to fail, they fail to plan.”
we see which side you are on! lol
Point of view.
If Trump doesn’t win in 2024, it will be the beginning of the end of the United States of Californicate.
It was the Uniparty induced 2009 debacle, that generated the Tea Party, and the Uniparty dismantling of the tea party, that generated DJT and MAGA.
Physics, or Politics “,…equal and opposite RE-action” otherwise know as,..”I GOT yer ‘fundamental transformation’ ,…right HEER!”
So, “bring it on”.
I totally agree with your first paragraph profoundly.
Don’t know if you recall, but I commented on a couple of recent posts that this one is “for all the marbles.”
BK, you and I generally see eye to eye, and yes, I noticed.
In Az the corrupt Rinocrats in Maricopa County made sure that every MAGA candidate would lose.
Across America, the corrupt Rinocrats made sure every MAGA Candidate would lose in 2022.
Many ran, name one that won? Really.
And America saw what happened in AZ because Kari Lake refused to quit, and it woke up many more people, who are now working to get rid of the RINOs.
Ready & willing to do what it takes in Georgia. Just give the marching orders & sound the trumpet. J6 was a great experience to let me know there are millions who share my same concerns. Let’s Roll General Sundance.
It’s about making them use their resources. If nothing else bleed then of their war chest for Godsake. Don’t just roll over. It’s not like you’re asked to run a marathon. Go take twenty minutes at a polling station and pull a lever. MAKE them steal it.
Also by doing that you make them risk exposing themselves for the frauds they are. And just maybe they skip up big enough that it wakes up the sheep. We need them awake, and by just giving up you will definitely never wake them up.
Damn.
They just print more money, so you’re never going to drain them of their resources. Remember both private corporations have access to the government purse strings.
We vote to make the steal more obvious
following that is educated people (of the Steal over time) protesting their LOCAL government until vote review or resignation.
those locations arent in DC, and will not have a DC jury to control the narrative.
people are too lazy to protest
the ball game and tv means more to them then the Country
maybe if all of that that gets turned off
Yes, they cheated in 2022, 2020, and 2016, but they only succeeded in 2 out of 3, and the one they lost, hurt them a LOT!
Paper ballots with ID (confirmed citizenship) with counters being video recorded is the only thing I see.
Anyone else?
Also, I would add, at the mi minimum, MN & NH to the list.
Michigan is listed after PA. 😉
Minnesota (MN) not Michigan (MI)
Oh well the way you wrote it you put in MI then minimum. My apologies for misunderstanding.
I would add Indiana.
A lot of fraud here. Huge Rino legislature and Govornor,SOS. Motor voter as well. We also received mail in ballots in 2020, and did not request them
Mike Lindell had election integrity groups from all 50 states give “status reports” at his 48 hr. confab in a big tin shed.
While there were minor, slight variations each State “delegation” reported the same basic pattern and issues.
“Red” or “Blue” State, makes no difference, every States R party is deeply involved .
I totally agree. So sickening.
Nope, that’s it….
Or turn the lights out…
Oh, wait a minute, they may do that for us!
The RNC Club wants, as billionaire donor Ken Griffin explained from his discussions with Ronna McDaniel, Ron DeSantis and Kevin McCarthy
McCarthy is an enemy, which we saw this weekend.
What single person is going to call for his resignation?
Gov wants your money and all the money they can print. There is no limit on this new bill. You can’t afford to live you say? Ok, that helps global warming. Can’t win a vote when only one side(they have the courts) decides on validity of voters.
The fastest way to get states to go back to legitimate voting process and to stop harassing Trump? Stop enrolling in the military or participating in any way!!!!
Although it’s a drastic and crazy idea there is no other way things will change unless you boycott the military complex.
When it was announced last year that the military had problems with recruiting, the military complex/CIA panicked and a few days later Musk announced the intent to buy Twitter. Basically Musk handlers allowed the purchase so patriotism wasn’t shamed anymore. They needed recruits.
If they want us to fight their wars….. then protest the military until proper voting is brought back and they stop Trump harassment.
Don’t send your children to them to serve while they abuse us and the system!!!!
Totally agree. I’m glad neither of my sons considered it. It had already gone woke by then, and that put them off.
they will just start a draft
Lol. Democrats will cry if their own are drafted.
They need patriots to fight their wars. Why support them if they treat you wrong? Boycott the military complex or nothing will happen.
If you can boycott a beer and Target…. imagine the about face when soldiers call in sick and no more recruits coming in? Think Big!!! Demand fair voting and leave trump alone!!!
Ballot harvesting, ballot gathering, whatever… if the Republicans think that they can “out harvest” the Dems, then they are missing the boat… and will lose again…
The total vote is being manipulated electronically…The answer is “Real Time Ballot Analysis” over the election eve. Catching the vote manipulation and documenting the results ebb and flow as it happens. Very doable.
https://intellectualconservative.com/articles/heres-how-they-did-it-real-time-election-fraud
Yes, Jay Valentines fractal anayses HAS been used, as ONE tool for addressing election fraud.
I have a major issue with his articles/statements saying without it, nothing else will matter.
There are at LEAST 4 different methods used in Maracopa County, to overcome KL’s yuge legitimate “landslide” margin of victory, and eke out a 17,000 vote fake lead for Hobbs.
IF KL voters first off had been educated enough to know that unique to maracopa county, a voter on the rolls can go to ANY polling place in Maracopa county, and following news reports had done what KL did, and simply gone to a polling place in a Hobbs district, their est. 84,000 votes would have counted.
If they had not butt headedly insisted on voting the way they WANT elections to be for everyone (In person, on election day) and had voted instead the way me n mine dif, with a requested ballot, dropped at the county recorders office, Kari Lake would now bo Governor.
And clogged voter rolls would have been meaningless.
There really is more than one way to skin a cat, and yes you actually CAN win in a contest where your opponent is cheating.
Ever read/watch “the Sting”?
It’s the only way Komrade Inslee has been able to stay in power all these years here in Washington State. They first tried it years ago in the gubernatorial race between Christine Gregoire and Dino Rossi in 2004.
Every recount that Rossi was ahead the D’s would print up another “mysterious” batch of 500-1000 more for Gregoire until Dino gave up after the third recount. It’s been a sad long slippery slope ever since.
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2023/05/why_kari_lake_couldnt_close_the_deal.html
PLEASE READ AND SHARE !!!
I think these guys have a solution using high tech.
When BJ Clinton signed the Motor Voter Law of 1993, the husband and wife team of Cloward & Piven were standing right behind him at the White House.
The Cloward-Piven strategy/ the Fundament Transformation of America.
It’s said that Richard Cloward & his wife Frances fox Piven influenced the the crafting of the Bill.
With all my heart, I believe that New York is a red state. Lee Zeldin almost took the governor’s race, first time out. (I think he did win, as do many; he had every community, even in NYC, behind him…). So, how do we EVER get the state back, with what looks like deep, penetrating, prolific and instilled historically, voting antics?
I have been posting for over a year, I suspect that NYS is RED.
ALL States are Red, inherently. Look at the 2016 election map, all red with little dots of blue, and the caption “Can you hear us, NOW?”
State R parties are conyrolled at the top, by Executive committees; they are above State party chairs, same structure at the County level, County Executive committtee, County chairs.
It is these positions in State R parties, that ‘paint’ a State red, blue or purple.
They insure RINOS, like the decepticons in the Senate and House keep getting reelected or replaced with another when they retire (Red states) or insure the R party is “ineffective” in a blue State.
Likewise for the State legislature, where they focus on the leadership positions, to block any MAGA efforts.
It takes work, but NYS is actually farther along than you might think.
At least Arizona’s corruption is well known and out in the open, but Pennsylvania is run by cunning shysters led by our Soros funded governor, Josh Shapiro, who was behind the 20 and 22 steals. Nothing has been done to change voting laws – the drop boxes, mail ins are still the same. On Election Day, if the fraudulent votes don’t go far enough, several more days are added for ‘counting.’ Works every time! Soros people run Pennsylvania, and I really feel Pennsylvanians have just given up. We have jobs, children, responsibilities and believe in a God these crooks will answer to some day.
NEVER give up, never surrender.
Pennsylvanias election fraud ISN’T known nationally?
You don’t thing we all noticed, your Senator is Uncle Fester?
Are you kidding?
I’ve been studying this for 60 years. I was a Goldwater girl with Hillary Clinton in 1964 in Park Ridge, Illinois. She was a year behind me in school, a cold fish then, and a controlling witch, but then a Republican. Park Ridge was then very conservative, but I doubt it’s like that anymore. Harrison Ford graduated from Maine East in 1960, Carrie Snodgrass in 1963. Hillary transferred to Maine South her senior year and graduated in 1965.
Actually it was William F. Buckley, CIA, CFR and Yale Skull and Bones man who got together with Irving Kristol, Bill Kristol’s father and changed old right constitutional conservatives into the neo-con Trotskyites we have today…slowly, but surely. Of course we know that in 1824, the first communist arrived and opened a school in Indiana. In 1848, the socialists who failed in Germany immigrated to America. The Union Army had 13 documented Marxists as high ranking officers. And then Senator Joe McCarthy tried to warn America of the infiltration in 1950, and it cost him his life.
Irving Kristol actually stated that he had been a Trotskyite and loved it. Of course most know that Trotsky ended up in Mexico with an axe in his head. He was a slow Marxist wanting people to accept it, but he still murdered three million.
Yep, we are a uniparty other than a good handful of faithful Constitutionalists who keep their oaths of office.
We can only change this with hard work and God’s help.
Wow. I thought I knew some history on this subject matter. This is an eye opener!
My studies focused more on a global (international) march thru time, but was well aware of the machinations in the US since its founding. My studies took me back to the international bankers prior to the mid to late 1800s. As well as current.
While I knew the foundations of Marx/Engels started well before they came along and wrote Das Kapital and the Manifesto and that they were funded by some certain ‘elites,’ I didn’t know that in addition to slow frontal assault on the monetary system by the Banksters that the early socialist theorist/agitators had already started infiltrating the country and our society that far back.
Thanks for the historical update to add to my studies.
Much appreciated!
Think you are going to out ballot harvest an algorithm?
algorythm is so “old school”, they don’t used that any more, its been retired, along with the centralised, massive ballot stuffing operation exposed in 2000 mules, and neccesary for backfilling when the algorythm gets broken.
Riddle me this, M.P.
They HAD to steal the election in Maracopa County.
Becayse she passed the “standing” roadblock, KL’s team has exposed the ways they used, and NONE of the evidence points to “the Algorythm” method known as “drop and roll”.
WHY is that? Because with exposure of EXACTLY how it works, and that we KNOW exactly how it works, it is rendered unusable.
“Prove” me wrong?
You using AZ (Lake) as an example while at the same time ignoring PA (Fetterman)? There isnt a one size fits all approach to election fraud.
NO WAY YOU ARE OUT BALLOT HARVESTING THIS ONE. And even with the most pristine voter rolls imaginable, this shell game will still steal votes.
https://floridarepublicanassembly.org/2023/05/23/floridas-floating-phantom-voter/
I thought you read this…. Read it again.
Catastrophic “Loss of Control” Data Breach in NY Elections
https://www.uncoverdc.com/2023/05/25/catastrophic-loss-of-control-data-breach-in-ny-elections/
“Through auditing the voter roll databases, obtained directly from state and local boards of elections, we have uncovered millions of invalid registrations, hundreds of thousands of votes cast by legally invalid registrations, hundreds of thousands of votes cast by legally invalid registrants, massive vote discrepancies, and the clear presence of algorithmic patterns we reverse engineered from within the state’s own official records.
To be absolutely clear, there is no known innocent purpose or explanation for why these algorithms exist. I am told by cyber-intelligence experts they indicate a ‘Total Loss of Control’ data breach, the most severe kind of data breach recognized by our federal government.
***INCREDIBLE NEWS, another huge piece of the puzzle. Multiple algorithms found in Wisconsin voter rolls for adding, removing and shuffling ID numbers and county officials would not even know it occurred!
As most states have handed over the reigns of their voter registration and election processing to just a handful of uncertified software vendors – you can assume that the algorithms proven to exist in New York, Wisconsin, and Florida — that generate ghost voters — exist in your state as well.
Why aren’t the Albert Sensors that are deployed by the Center for Internet Security (private NGO working at the direction of the Department of Homeland Security) finding these breaches?
Maybe, it’s because DHS/CIS are the ones responsible for initiating the algorithms in the first place….
Just a thought.
How do you OUT BALLOT HARVEST THIS?
watch
https://streamable.com/dpb8h4
When candidate Biden arrogantly told a peon….’I don’t need your vote’…..
he knew why
He does NOT need to debate
Wow. Just…wow.
Lots of thoughts on ballot harvesting flying around.
There is a big reason the fraud cabal are “inviting” us to play this game. This article is essential reading if you want to understand this con fully. It is free.
Thank you for reading.
https://skeshel.substack.com/p/democrats-control-18-states-with
That’s actually a good map to show people who use the “there was no widespread election fraud” argument. Good visual illustrating that it doesn’t need to be widespread to carry an election.
I live in VA and the VA GOP might as well be the DNC annex. They only sport hard core Uniparty Establishment candidates like Romney, the Bushes. Ask Corey Stewart. He beat out the Establishment candidates twice so they didn’t fund his campaigns.
Still, doesn’t there need to be a human hand involved to fill out every ballot? I don’t understand how it works, without an impossibly high number of criminals filling out ballots all over the entire country. Is it all structured to be happening completely automatically, electronically, by a relatively limited number of corrupt people?
Derring do,…
Its complicated, but assuming you are asking about the mail out ballot process, while each State has a slightly different system, her is how its supposed to work.
A ballot, with a mail back in envelope (like a sase with a bill, or solicitation for a donation, etc. are inside a mail out envelope, mailed to either ALL registered voters, or to those requesting them.
You recieve that envelope, open and discard the outer envelope, fill out the ballot,put it in the envelope and seal it, and SIGN the envelope, which already has your voter identifying info; name, address, party affiliation; info which SHOULD ‘MATCH’ the info in the voter registration files.
Mail it, drop in a drop box or at the county recorder.
Now, FIRST they compare the voter I.D. info on the envelope to the info on record; no match? They discard envelope and ballot, as not valid. I THAT info matches, they compare the signature on the envelope to the signature on file, either with County recorder or DMV.
IF no match, they discard and ballot votes are not counted.
If match, they open the envelope, remove the ballot ehich has NO voter I.D. on it, and scan (count the votes on it).
So a signature verification system properly executed, would negate any “phantom voters” as the ballots would never be counted.
It takes both massive #’s of phantom voters AND a corrupted sig var system, to “ballot stuff” in sufficient quantity to overcome a “landlside” election.
Human hands needed? Not at all. One of the features of Dominion machines is being able to make a very realistic mark on a ballot. (Whyever do you suppose they needed a feature like that?!?)
There is plenty of cheating by hand going on, enough to change an election. But using machines makes it FAR faster and harder (in many cases impossible) to catch. Not to mention that because elections have become more centralized, the final national results go through a private corporation (I forget the name, it’s not ERIC, it’s on the other end of things) and there is NO CHECK to see that the results matched what they got from the counties!
Oh, and btw guess who audits the voting machines? They audit themselves.
We don’t have time to fight all these things individually. We need to demand NOW that elections be one day, paper ballot, in person, hand counted, at the precinct level. It can be done, it’s been tried and tested, it’s NOT slow, and it does an end run around all these human AND automatic fraud magnet processes!
Get this handcount manual to your local officials: https://frankspeech.com/article/return-hand-counting-missouri-elections-emanual
Solving this problem is like plugging one hole in a sieve. There are many well-practiced methods of stealing an election (registering fake voters with real names, registering fake voters with fake names, registering anything and everything from overseas, inserting fake ballots in ballot collection boxes, inserting fake ballots during counting, misprinting certain ballots, breaking some machines and not others, messing with tabulator hardware or software, passing incorrect totals to the next level, adding totals incorrectly, displaying incorrect totals, and much more.)
ANY ONE OF THESE METHODS could be used to steal the whole election. We don’t have time to get rid of or work around all of them.
We have to demand precinct-level, hand-counted, paper-ballot elections on Election Day. We DO KNOW HOW to do this (everyone used to!) and there is a manual, and it was recently tested in an Osage County, Missouri election, and it finished FASTER than neighboring machine-counted counties.
https://frankspeech.com/article/return-hand-counting-missouri-elections-emanual
There are more good ideas and processes out there, but it looks like putting too many links in a post flags it, so this is my best recommendation.
I live in WA, totally corrupt system, all mail in Ballots for everyone – “He who counts the ballots will always win here” until this is changed nothing will change.
In 2020, Inslee “won” here because of this ballot counting (the election was called 5 minutes “after the polls closed” WHAT POLLS ?). It is more than likely Trump actually won the state, but enough ballots were produced to overturn real voters wishes.
As I see it there is only one way out of this situation and it involves significantly more than throwing tea into Puget Sound.
Jeffrey Coley: June 1, 2023 5:34 pm: “President Trump learned the lesson. He thought he could swamp the Democrats with Election Day voting, only to learn too late you can never beat LATE voting. For 2024 he’s all in on ballot harvesting in the states where that is legal. Which won’t stop the Democrats from trying to repeat 2020 and 2022, but at least with a large unknown number of GOP vote by mail in the mix they won’t know exactly how many they need, or where.”
It is not enough to harvest Republican ballots. For every legal ballot a Republican candidate legally harvests, the Democrats can generate two illegal ballots from phantom voters carried on the county and state election rolls.
As Sundance has pointed out any number of times, the RNC will not deal with election fraud. The RNC’s goals and objectives as a private corporation don’t include the adoption of a truly fair and honest election system in America.
Some number of independent anti-fraud activities are now underway in a number of places around the country.
But these activities are disjointed in their strategic methods and approach, and are under-funded relative to the total need. If an effective anti-fraud effort is to be made for the 2024 election cycle, central coordination and some level of funding must come directly from the Trump campaign itself.
I’ve seen nothing so far in the way of an effective strategy being developed by the Trump campaign for dealing proactively with the problem of phantom voters on the voter rolls; with the related problem of the real-time manipulation of the voter rolls prior to, during, and after an election; and with the problem of direct manipulation in real time of the ballot tabulation process.
Just for one example, the Democrat’s in-field election fraud operations depend in part on knowing which names on the voter rolls represent phantom voters. This knowledge allows them to better manage the staging and injection of illegal ballots well ahead of election day, and also the injection of illegal ballots in real time when their candidates are falling short in the vote count.
Countering the Democrat’s in-field fraud operations will require that Republicans have a similar knowledge of which particular ballots likely come from phantom voters — knowledge which is being updated in real time as the election cycle progresses, up to and including election day. And even after election day.
Yes, work hard to clean the voter rolls and harvest Republican ballots well before election day in November 2024. But also recognize that real-time manipulation of the voter rolls by unscrupulous county and state officials, and real-time manipulation of the vote counting and tabulation processes, can quickly erase the hard work that was done prior to the election.
These are problems for which there are no easy solutions. Which is one reason why the Democrats have been so successful in stealing the 2020 and 2022 election cycles. Nevertheless, an open and honest discussion concerning how best to fight the Democrat’s election fraud machine is a necessity if MAGA Republicans are to win in 2024.
Battleship Wisconsin,
Respectfully disagree with your conclusion nothing has been done, simply because you have seen nothing.
Also the insistence that “Trump campaign” must do this directly, or that there is no “coordination”.
There are, on average 10-20 election integrity groups that have formed in pretty much each State, for instance DELAWARE has a vibrant, dynamic active group.
These individual “grass roots” groups HAVE “linked up” and are coordinating both State wide and Nationally, with Mike Lindell and True the Vote having had 3 48 hour national meetings.
Different groups attack from different angles, with different resources/ expertise.
Lawayers, Computer specialists, statistical analysts, and grass roots “plain folk” are all imvolved, including some sophisticated efforts.
THEY kept saying the voting machines weren’t and couldn’t be accessed via the internet.
Until the cyber ninjas parked down from a polling place, set up a wi-fi “hotspot” and livestreamed it on the i-net, as they got to the “handshake” portion of accessing the machine, by accessing the coffee machine next to the voting machine, then using its “bluetooth” feature.
To go the next step and actually return the “handshake” would have broken the law, but they made their point. This was in az.
Also, somebody ‘tapped into” the security camera footage from the storage warehouse for the machines, in maracopa county, and recorded the employees reprogramming the machines to fail.
There is a LOT going on, TGP seems to do the best at covering what is a dynamic panorama of a variety of groups attacking in a coordinated way, from different angles.
It ain’t nothing, and its not always visible and will never be reported on MSM.
I did not say that nothing is being done. I said that what is being done needs some level of central coordination and some level of funding. A need which is not being met.
Since the RNC isn’t interested in supporting the election integrity movement, the only possible source of the needed coordination and the needed funding is the Trump campaign.
The Trump campaign staff doesn’t need to micromanage every anti-fraud organization. But it does need to act as a central information clearing house and as a source of strategic and tactical thinking concerning what specific methods and means will prove most effective in countering the 2024 election steal.
Brilliant expose 👏!
Here in Washington State we’ve had mail in ballots since 2000 I believe. I remember vividly the Rossi vs Gregroir governor’s race.
The dems kept counting through 3 recounts until they reached the magic number needed to declare victory. I think it was around 300 or so ballots(votes). They even found a box of ballots in a closet.
We’ve been under Democrat party tyranny since, with a gutless GOPe unwilling to fight.
So, 2018 this process was beta tested, 2020 this same process was fine tuned, renamed, and perfected. Unfortunately this proves my vote no longer matters, we have attained third world status with our election process and the corruption that openly benefits from this. I shall continue to cast my vote, as voting is still a privilege, and I hope my single vote is just enough that the corrupt political machine can not overcome.
Only time will tell.
It’s a right, not a privilege.
No, the processes havr been around since someone first came up with the idea of voting.
The processes, using election machines were beta tested in the Mexico Presidential race of 1988, and then used in venezuela to install chavez and shut down that countries oil production, and the machines were introduced in the U.S. after the manufactured crises of the 2000 “Bush v Gore” with hanging chads, generated the excuse for introing the machines here.
Point being, the system was fully perfected in 2016.
It didn’t work, because it is much harder to steal an election, when you have to overcome a landslide.
Hence, since voting costs you nothing, to conclude “its no use” is actually making the theft possible, and so a foolish responce to election fraud.
Will we ever win another election?
There is nothing Biden can do.
There is nothing Desantis or any Dem or Repub contenders can do.
President Trump received 74 million votes in 2020. Everybody knows that was enough to win. With this Biden record, if he wins in 2024 it cannot possibly be legit. Then your vote is not what you think it is
If your vote is not legitimate, the current people in office are not legitimate either. So why would we do elections according to what they say?
what is thing you call election?
until a legit one ever occurs….
Of coarse, we won in 2016.
In WA state we get our ballots in the mail, delivered to a locked mailbox, and then we send it back in with a signature.
Not nearly as secure as in-person ID check for sure but very convenient for legitimate voters. I can also go online to see if it was counted. Better still would be the actual scanned image of what I voted for, how the machine ‘actually’ counted it with an encryption key only I know.
We learned from AZ, the signature check system is a joke. This is the key loophole for mail-in ballots. More secure would be the requirement that the signature must be notarized.
So is ballot harvesting basically going door to door and paying people for the ballots they received?
…or do they figure out who didn’t vote and then ‘vote’ for them with already filled-in printed ballots contained in fabricated return envelopes?
Is this why they need to shut down the ballot counting once enough of the ‘more’ legitimate votes are in so they can figure out those that are registered but didn’t vote get ‘assigned’ the pre-printed ballots in order to shift the final results?
This is on top of switching actual votes via the machines.
Plus if you run the same ballot through the machine multiple times, you eventually need the paper ballots to back the total vote count up.
A ballot bar code would stop BTW, plus give We the People the ability to look up our bar code in the database. As long as the bar code is not associated with a voter, it’s still a secret ballot.
Plus there could be a double-blind code that connects the mailed-out bar code with the ballot bar code (only the voter knows).
Similar to how cryptocurrency works.
Would be great, but this is still asking us to trust experts. (They SAY only you know the encryption key….) Paper ballots, in person, hand counted, one day elections are simple enough for EVERYBODY to see whether it was fair.
P.S. How many people in the Post Office had access to your ballot? Did any of them fill out a chain of custody form? Would you send $500 cash through the mail? How valuable is your ballot according to its percentage of the GDP?
spaul,
Yes, appropriate signature verification, such as when you attempt to cash a check at your bank, with only your signature would eliminate thecproblem of phantom voters.
Legal “legitimate” ballot ASSISTANCE varies from State to State, but it CAN involve registering or assisting in registering the voter, assisting them in requesting a mail ballot assisting them in filling out the ballot, and assisting them in getting the ballot returned.
As you say with mail out ballots generally, all of this COULD be ‘legitimate’ or abused obviously.
Shutying down the counting on election nite, is a specific “tell” that the ‘weighted vote’ algorythm has been used, and the #’s they put in are not enough to overcome the opponents legitimate margin of victory.
So, they have to stop the count, change the #’s in the algorythm, add enough electronic votes to bring their candidate up to correct for the deficiency in the original algorythm, and then backfill with paper ballots with only the counter function operating.
You CAN have LESS votes than you have ballots, happens when people only vote for one candidate or proposition.
But, you can NOT POSSIBLY have MORE votes than ballots.
Anyway, the algorythm system of weighted votes, vote flipping and pulling suitcases of ballots out from under tables, known as “dominion algorythm” or “drop and roll” has been exposed and so is no longer an option.
No more switching actual votes.
Many ways to “fix” elections, its like “fixing” the border; its not a matter of HOW, its a matter of political will, and both broken systems lead right back to the Uniparty having a vested interest in keeping the systems broken.
Fix THAT, and the systems are easy..
We live in North Carolina. We have a lousy Democrat governor who fortunately is in his last term. We also have a wonderful black conservative MAGA Republican running for governor, Mark Robinson. He is enormously popular. Lately a former Republican Congressman challenger, Mark Walker, has emerged out of relative obscurity. There is no reason for Walker to run unless he is actually the Uniparty’s choice. Thank you for clarifying the relative positions of the RNC and DNC. The rift within the Republican Party seems irreconcilable. The mass of Republican and Right-leaning voters cultivated by Donald Trump has no common interests with the globalists who only want cheap labor, low taxes and minimal regulations.
I dearly hope that Sundance and all others of this CTH family are aware of Jay Valentine and his fractal computer operation to expose ballot fraud.
He, of course, gets no support from the RNC or GOPe even though he can show the ballot fraud within 24 hours of it happening.
If you are reading my post and have not read any of Valentine’s articles (American Thinker)
please read one of his articles and help get his operation into these target states.
https://www.americanthinker.com/author/jay_valentine/
Thank you, been trying to find this article…
Until we heed Jay Valentine’s advice, we’re cooked and are Venezuela…
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2023/05/why_kari_lake_couldnt_close_the_deal.html
MTGreen. Voted yes on the debt ceiling bill. She is a RINO fraud.
And she gloated it as a GOP “win”.
She is from Georgia. One of the states Sundance references above.
Since the RNC doesn’t know how to prosecute voter fraud,
The DNC will show you, in 2024.
The DNC set up Mark Harris in district 9 in NC in 2020.
All they had were suspicions of a campaigner, Harris hired, who was an ‘ex’ DNC harvester.
The NC election commission heard the alarms go off by a dozen DNC lawyers screaming about Harris ‘harvesting votes’. They had the suspicious campaigner, and ‘2’ ballots.
Harris had won by 900 votes.
With these 2 suspicious ballots, the election commission voted for a re-vote. Mark Harris had 2 strokes and dropped out.
Dan Bishop replaced him and beat the DNC candidate, McCready by 3,000 votes.
Kari Lake had 100’s of thousands of suspicious votes, and it fell on deaf ears.
My guess the DNC’s fraudulent vote stealers, are in the millions. They include judges, DOJ, the FBI and the media.
The only way to stop them, is to stop the grift of the politicians, who are breaking the law for money. The machines are keeping tabs on the count, then reporting to the DNC, in 2020 and 2022. They stopped counting in 5 states and delivered the needed dump, to catch up to Trump in 2020.
We need more than videos to catch this fraud. This fight is going on right now. Since 2020, we have been making headway, and did much better in 2022. 2 wrongs don’t make a right. If we start fighting against fraud, with fraud of our own.
More MAGA voters are going to jail.
We are up against a stacked deck for sure.
Mohave County AZ since 1982. The only thing saving the Democrats is an inflitrated compromised mid level judiciary and a legislature plus a unified AZ GOP party that needs to ramp up a pit bull take no prisoners mentality.
They have this all set up already with the republicans… All i hear is a head to head with Biden..Trump he loses…ofcourse this is what they want to happen… And it needs to happen for them…
It give the republicans another 4 years for donations to 2028… blaming Trump for why it happened…
and by the time the next election take place in 2028 the transformation will be complete… it wont matter…