Last night I participated in a conversation. This article is written as an outcome of that conversation, as requested by those who participated.
Essentially, the framework of the conversation, as I initially listened, is best described as a series of questions amid a group of smart intellectual types who are very understanding of the nature of our current situation.
In various forms they were asking each other the same question. What happened in the last several years that caused Democrats, leftists and the traditional political left to switch positions on their advocacy?
Liberalism literally went from railing against Big Govt, to embracing corrupt Big Govt. Why and how did this happen?
In short, it was the same line of questioning I have seen asked by Tucker Carlson, Glenn Greenwald, Tulsi Gabbard and various traditionally liberal people as well as people on the right side of the continuum.
Why and how did traditional liberalism so suddenly flip from being, big picture – ‘anti-government’, to suddenly embracing corrupt government enterprise, and supporting the intelligence apparatus, federal govt (writ large), institutional oppressive law enforcement and FBI etc.? What happened?
After listening to this conversation quietly, as I am prone to do, my remarks -with citations and examples- silenced the room.
At the conclusion of my remarks, everyone asked me if I had ever written about this, and if not – why not? I did not have an answer, so consider this a promise fulfilled. Perhaps you might find value.
In the 50 years that preceded 2008, traditional leftists, media activists, left-wing community organizing agencies, Democrats, liberals, progressives, or whatever label you want to assign, essentially railed against the U.S. government and all that it represented. However, now, if you were to look at the issues from the 30,000-foot perspective, those same groups currently support the oppressive & weaponized system of government they formerly despised.
In the 50 years that preceded 2008, those same groups had an approach of distrust toward government, and the media apparatus had a very distinct supportive and cynical outlook, favorable to the leftist anti-government perspective. Now, all of that has reversed – seemingly flipped.
In the 50 years that preceded 2008, media pushed a one-way narrative in defense of those who were “targeted” by the institutions and mechanisms of government. As the activists railed against the regime, the media framed narratives to excuse the transparently guilty. Now, that entire dynamic has reversed. Now we see the media pushing a narrative in support of weaponized government targeting, and – here’s the kicker – framing the transparently innocent.
The activists went from accusing government of wrongdoing and defending the transparently guilty – to aligning with government, excusing government wrongdoing, and helping to attack the transparently innocent.
As some continue to say with jaw agape, WTF happened?
The answer “why” is not complicated…. not complicated at all.
In 2008, the ‘activists’ took control of government.
In January of 2009, the leftists, community organizers and activists took control of the systems they had opposed for the preceding 50+ years.
In January of 2009, and inflection point took place; an inflection point that no one realized in forethought, scale or consequence.
Starting in 2009, all of the systems of federal government were now under the control of the people who previously fought against the systems of federal government. Everything since is an outcome of that inflection point; that’s why everything flipped.
All of it, and I do mean every scintilla of the thing; every single granular detail and example you can put in front of me can be traced back to that moment when the activists were no longer outside government railing against the corrupt system they hated.
Starting in January of 2009, the activists took power over the United States government, and every outside institution, including media, necessarily and ideologically followed that inversion.
Starting in 2009, the systems and institutions of the U.S government now came under the control of the radical activists.
In the eight years that followed, the mission of every institution was changed. Government was weaponized on behalf of the leftist activists who now took control of it. Everything thereafter is a consequence of this change.
When I use the word “suddenly”, it is only for understanding the inflections point that came as a consequence. In actuality, the severity of change inside each institution took place over several years. That’s why the intensity of the weaponized and corrupt systems became worse over time.
As each institution was infiltrated to become more aligned with the mindset of the activists, the institutions became more radical in their targeting and weaponization.
The activists went from being outside government to being inside government.
Suddenly, the left-wing supportive media changed mission priority from railing against corrupt government, to defending the corrupt weaponization of govt.
Suddenly, the FBI went from targeting domestic threats, to targeting only the domestic threats defined as against the interests of the left-wing activists.
Suddenly, the outside activists went from being defined as social elements creating turmoil, to social elements now being defended and even promoted.
This is why we see outside activist groups like the Dream Defenders, New Black Panthers, Black Lives Matter, Occupy Wall Street and more recently ANTIFA, as protected and supported by the activists inside government now in control of the systems and institutions.
All of the social, cultural and political dynamics that changed traditional “liberalism” are easily understood once you realize and accept that activists took control of the power centers of the U.S. government.
Everything that followed, including our current state of social and political turmoil, is simply a natural conclusion of that fundamental change.
The radical activists are now in control of the institutions of power. This core shift is what created the dynamic of a very visible two-tiered justice system. Each institution was weaponized and continues to be weaponized against those who are not aligned with the activist ideology.
The Dept of Justice has been weaponized against people who are not in alignment with the radicals.
The federal police, known as the FBI, have been weaponized against We The People.
The Intelligence Community is now under the control of the radical activists. The mission priorities change accordingly.
When Tucker Carlson, Glenn Greenwald, Tulsi Gabbard or any other person posits the question about ‘why’ the ideology of the left and media has shifted so suddenly, there is your answer.
It is not a complicated understanding. Once you accept this fundamental change took place, everything seemingly falls into place….
…. At least that’s what the “ah-ha” audience told me.
In the meantime the media grew less and less curious. Its technological expansion and mutation via cable and computer access into innumerable 24/7 hyper competitive outlets led it to follow the money and tread lightly on stories that might impact their revenue. They became corporatized just as the RNC and DNC did. Some media blatantly made up stories (remember Janet Cooke?) that “fit” the agendas of the boomer radicals rising in their corporate editorial ranks. A side effect was the dawn of televising congressional proceedings. This made ALL congress people into preening, dissembling fools, whereas before that only a few were.
So, the party that gave us the Civil War and the KKK suddenly recently became evil? Seriously?
The Left’s long march through the institutions began on the college campuses of the 60s and 70s using the Vietnam War and the draft as their cause celeb. It took decades but as the hippies evolved to wear business suits so too did their ideology. They used to hate “The Man” but now they are “The Man.”
I know how it happened, as do many others in this country! Obama won and immediately fired the entire top echelon of ever bureaucracy and department in Washington DC. He put in place only Communists or Marxist leaning individuals as replacements for every governmental department. His entire first couple of years was dedicated to exactly that. Ergo we now have, basically, a form of Marxism.
We have a generational Nazi problem. Somehow, mostly double agents, National Socialisist have merged with the International Socialisists. We imported these people, left them in place in Europe, and now we have Uber Fascism. A lot of these people were and are government employees at all levels. These people will do anything for money and power.
These people, who want it all, are out in the open.
This is a Mike Wallace report worth watching. Please ignore that Barney Frank is interviewed because he proves that people knew.
https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/document/cia-rdp87m01152r000100090001-6
George Bush was Nafta’s pusher and Clinton got it done. The corruption became commonplace under Clinton. Obama made it official.
And all of this comes as a surprise to Americans because they are ignorant of history. Every leader of the Twentieth Century that promised and promoted ‘great changes’ boasted of it before they attained power. Hitler, Stalin and Mao all promised great changes and left nothing but death, destruction and abject misery in their wake and demise. When Obama stated that he was going to fundamentally change America why are we now surprised. The only consolation that we can gain at this point is that the Trump administration started in 2017 to dampen the fuse to the powder-keg that Obama had lit. We now find that the dampened fuse is well and truly burning brightly once again and this time the death and destruction of the Twentieth century will pale in comparison to what lies ahead for all of us.
Antenor, you have accurately described the underlying reason of the “shocked and awed” citizen populace. But their forgetfulness of tyranny’s history can be laid at the feet of the educational system which has been dumbing-down the population for the last 60 years.
Shortly after the Bolshevik party (who actually were a minority) have overthrown a legitimate government in Russia, they realized that siciety at large does not support their ideas. At that point civil liberties were suspended and proletarian dictatorship established to break the back of the society. And it worked. In my estimation America is heading in this direction
They immediately established the Cheka to murder not just the opposition but included the innocent. The idea was that THAT would truly instill terror and fear amongst the masses. As was proven to be the case
FDR actually funded these murderous thugs until he could get America into the war. FDR’s cabinet was filled with “Bolsheviks.” These same people are still in control of our govt. and have been since the implement of the FED.
Cheka leader Lazar Kaganovich is most likely an ancestor of our current Supreme Court Justice Elena Kagan.
Lazar Kaganovich wasn’t a Cheka leader or member
He was leader of collectivization and recommended people to be arrested or killed by the NKVD “Checka”.
My mistake.
Wasn’t he in charge of the Holodomoor?
There was very little choice but to fund them supply them and equip them. The British were in a very precarious situation. Having a hard time dealing with Rommel in North Africa. They had just been ejected from the continent a third time in Greece. The Soviets were facing by far the bulk of German might. Save for the Kriegsmarine. It was still 5 months and change before Pearl Harbor. While US aid had a much bigger impact later in the war. Raw materials, boots and many other items doubtlessly contributed to the Soviets keeping the Germans out of Moscow. An accomplishment achieved by the narrowest of margins. I am no fan of FDR. I remember the cold war as a dependent and a soldier. However FDR supporting the USSR from the end of June until the start of December was not a mistake.
Sorry, this does not make sense to me. Something is missing.
I have understood that liberals and conservatives used be able to talk and work together pre-60s but even then, it was the liberals who were always for more government.
The transition seemed to be the Vietnam period. What they hated most was the military. Which drove them to rail against the US government, mostly against the right. Nixon! Reagan!! Bushes!
What they objected to and distrusted was Republicans.
The part missing in this writing is why they transitioned from being America loving, more government liberals to massive government Marxist leftists. What I would call the 60s flip.
Seems to me that it was years of university/college indoctrination that moved people from liberal to huge government leftist fanaticism and the movement away from God.
Godless Saul Alinsky wrote his book “Rules for Radicals” explaining the insanity of the godless, heathen, leftist activism.
The human cry of the second revolution is one for a meaning, purpose for life—a cause to live for and if need be die for.
The left denied God, the source of meaning to life. And then infested our institutions and formed radical leftist causes for meaning in their life.
Then they gained control and became government gods to rule over all with destruction, immorality, evil and fear to increase their power of control in any & every way possible. There are no limits because they control everything. Their might will make it right with a utopian leftist hell for the rest of us.
Bingo. Not believing in an afterlife, the Fascist Left’s only hope for purpose is to create Heaven on Earth. The Marxist Utopia they have studied on their entire lives.
They believe they are too smart for God. But they are opposite the very Nature of Man and will fail miserably as always.
“The transition seemed to be the Vietnam period. What they hated most was the military. Which drove them to rail against the US government, mostly against the right”…..just wondering; was it the military or the war itself that the “they” railed against? The threat of being drafted drove a lot of that, I think?
LOL, they were only anti-war during Vietnam because it was against communists. The left always gets anti-war about fighting communists. The love wars against nationalists, strong nation states.
gradually, then suddenly
Slowly, then all at once…
http://www.yumpu.com/en/document/view/8050043/obama27s-use-of-hidden-hypnosis-techniques-in-his-speeches/7
ericksonian “talking hypnosis” can be used to bypass critical thought and implant ideas into those who are willing to trust you. For most of us,in most situations this wouldn’t work, people would get real annoyed by the techniques used. But for a (D)irtbag politician talking to a sympathetic audience (and benefitting from the sacred skin color), a very skillful performer could really stoke up the stupidity to the massive degree we have seen.
This long article makes a very convincing case that Oblahblah is not so much a persuasive speaker using reasoning to persuade his audiences, but a skilled performer following a carefully planned script to sneak stupidity into willing receptacles . I think this explains why he’s so lame without his teleprompter.
The Kenyan is SOOOO overrated. He couldn’t attract fleas when they trotted him out to campaign for “Biden”. He’s an IC creation, installed, coached, his entire persona and history fabricated, his past sealed. Homosexual partners of the past now dead. I’ll never forget when he ditched a press conference on the economy (’09??) because he “had to go to a party”, and called Bill Clinton onstage to take over. The guy is ignorant, a stooge frontman with a sordid history that makes him controllable.
In the mid- to late-60’s, there was a confluence of three separate movements. The first was, as you mentioned, the Vietnam War and the hatred of the military in general and the war in particular. The second was the Civil Rights movement, led by MLK. The third was the second Women’s Rights movement. The results of the first were overcome by society and the military by the mid-80’s. The result of the second movement was the Civil Rights act of 1964. This legislation was well intentioned and much needed. What accompanied this act, however, was the dramatic increase in federal government size and power and, ultimately, the destruction of the Black family. The Law of Unintended Consequences was clearly manifested in this case.The third movement, the second Women’s Rights Movement (the first was the activism that resulted in the 19th Amendment), intended to remove “glass ceilings” and disparities in pay between men and women.
It was the temporal convergence of these three that resulted in the chaos of the last half of the decade (witness the 1968 Democratic Convention in Chicago). The refocus of government and society that occurred in the 70’s seemed to calm the waters and Ronald Reagan’s eight years in the White House seemed to put the country on a sound footing moving forward. However, this was followed by the collapse of the Soviet Union and, hence, the Warsaw Pact, which, along with the political and economic rise of China, brought with it the global uncertainty that continues today.
The problem we have as a nation as we drift farther and farther into “warring camps” is that we have lost the ability to reconcile with each other on even the most important issues. As Americans we tend to focus on the domestic impact of these irreconcilable differences and this is understandable. However, the result on a global scale is the inability of the United States to decide what our strategic goals are. Who do we (America) want to be in the global order (or as Kissinger recently put it “disorder” – though Richard Haass prefers the term “disarray”). Our societal divisions preclude the development of a strategic vision and therefore a path to achieve that vision.
It was all laid out in Willian Z. Foster’s Toward a Soviet America in 1932, nobody read it or took their intent seriously except those who are hated today, J. Edgar Hoover for one.
To understand what is going down in America today with the radial Left you need to have been born before WW II, in my case January 7, 1941. That allowed me to kind of remember the end of WW II and all of the Korean War. After college I was drafted but given the option to Join and then go to OCS to become an officer. After getting my commission I got Jump wings and then when through the officer course and other training to be a Green beret. When I got to Vietnam, I was a First Lieutenant and an A Team executive officer. While there, I was wounded in battle with two other Green Berets and sent back to the states in a military hospital where I was the only one that lived. After being released, I was assigned to Ft Campbell as the deputy Post G2 and made Captain. This was from 1968 through 1969 and when I completed my obligations, I took a job with GE in their management training program and that begin my upper level management career. Along the way I got an EMBA at CASE and did well enough to be inducted to the Beta Gamma Sigma Society.
In the 90’s I started to research the Vietnam War at the political level as it never made much sense and it tore the country apart. The protests in the late 60’s and though the 70’s Set the country in a different direct then what was in the constitution I swore and oath to defend. That research lasted a dozen years and what I found was that the “hard core” protesters to the Vietnam War were for all political purposes Marxists. The Weathermen, later the Weather Underground, published a Communists style Manifesto Call Prairie Fire in 1974 outlining their future of the America. There is no question that they were not Marxists.
The core we the sons and daughters of the wealth progressives from the WW I area and they were determined to remake America into a Marxist paradise. Obama was the start of the final push that we are now experiencing from that effort. I have been watching this unfold for almost 30 years.
I will share my research until they come for me. My Blog is Centinel2012.com
Makes sense. Obama’s close friend was none other than Mr. Weatherman himself:
Bill Ayers
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Ayers
Obama was mentored by Marxist Frank Marshall Davis, while living in Hawaii. Don’t forget how unconventional his parents were too.
I think the Marxists arrived at the turn of the 20th Century. Their class warfare never gained any traction here. After WWII Saul Alinsky made Marxism “cool” and they discovered that where class warfare did not work – race did and changed their focus. In addition to that, Operation Paperclip brought far more Nazis into this country than we were told.
Their march through the institutions started in the 1960s, but they started revising our history in 1908 when the first book was written to smear George Washington without any sources or footnotes. LBJ’s Johnson Amendment in 1954 bribed church to surrender its historic influence on the popular culture and stay out of politics.
I think we are at a point now where there are only two sides – the globalist Deep State vs Trump and the patriots from all walks of life who support him – because nobody else is fighting back! DeSantis is just another Bush-style globalist.
All of the Grooming Pornography and Filth in Classrooms Goes Back to Obama – The Obama Regime Was Promoting It All (Warning on Content)
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/05/all-grooming-pornography-filth-classrooms-goes-back-obama/
… ‘It Was Barack Obama Who First Pushed Teaching Sex Education to Kindergarteners Back in 2007 – He Even Pushed Sex Ed to Kiddies Legislation.
…And Barack Obama was serious. He said he wanted to fundamentally change America and he did…Barack Obama’s Safe School’s Czar Kevin Jennings, who founded GLSEN. Kevin Jennings was a member of the Obama administration pushing his agenda in schools.’
… “GLSEN’s stated mission is to empower gay youth in the schools and to stop harassment by other students. It encourages the formation of Gay Student Alliances and condemns the use of hateful words. GLSEN also strives to influence the educational curriculum to include materials which the group believes will increase tolerance of gay students and decrease bullying. To that end, GLSEN maintains a recommended reading list of books that it claims “furthers our mission to ensure safe schools for all students.” In other words, these are the books that GLSEN’s directors think all kids should be reading: gay kids should read them to raise their self-esteem, and straight kids should read them in order to become more aware and tolerant and stop bullying gay kids. Through GLSEN’s online ordering system, called “GLSEN BookLink,” featured prominently on their Web site, teachers can buy the books to use as required classroom assignments, or students can buy them to read on their own.
According to GLSEN’s own press releases from the period during which its recommended reading list was developed, the organization’s three areas of focus were creating “educational resources, public policy agenda, [and] student organizing programs”; in other words, the reading list (chief among its “educational resources”) was of prime importance in GLSEN’s efforts to influence the American educational system.”
Yes. Obama opened the floodgates, for sure.
https://theferalirishman.blogspot.com/2023/05/i-remember.html?m=1
Last noght one of my Spectrum Cable channels featured the Obamas’ “Believe.” They intend to get back in the White House to complete the destruction
They ARE back in the WH.
I disagree that the situation flipped over the course of a few years. Are you forgetting “the long march through the institutions”? Over the past 60 years virtually every organization public, private, and otherwise have veered to the left. Resistance against the policies of elected politicians has been a thing for decades. NGOs founded my conservatives were infiltrated and steered to the left–along with the billions of dollars.
What changed in 2008 is that Obama felt that the time was right to yank off the mask. The “fundamental change” he promised was to use all the levers of government, private sector, and NGO power to override the Constitution. Obama regularly ran roughshod over it. It was Obama that radicalized the DoJ and converted them into an ideological enforcement arm. It was Obama that began the process of granting government contractors access to FISA queries to spy on political opponents. Obama made brazen threats (remember his joke about having the IRS audit opponents?). Obama made absurd claims of executive privilege (Holder on Fast & Furious). Obama ignored court orders. Obama fired 197 general officers who were war fighters and replaced them with nancy boys. In short, Obama was smart enough to see that the groundwork had been done and that HE could be the straw that broke the Constitution’s back. All the need for hiding and passive resistance to conservative politicians evaporated because Obama gave everybody in the government service permission to openly resist.
The preparatory work for this leftist onslaught began six decades ago. UC Berkeley’s ‘Free Speech’ movement achieved its goal and abruptly began to shut down the speech of its opponents. The antiwar activists in the 1960’s were never antiwar ─ they just didn’t want to fight communism. They slowly took over academia and insinuated themselves into every center of power (they have even taken over the Koch org at this point). This was anything but a quick rapid process. It was very much more akin to a chemical reaction that builds potential energy over a long period of time and that energy is then released when a catalyst is present. Obama was the catalyst, but his success was predicated on the groundwork of the many different schools of radical thought over a long period of time.
Any thoughts on why Americans elected Obama twice?
What makes you think he was elected either time?
I think that he was elected the first time – due to the novelty of his melanin content. By 2012 the economy was in the toilet and he should have lost. He was cheated back into office.
With a name like Hussein? Nope, not even the first time..although a lot of libs voted for him both times.
Exactly. That was when elections were gone completely. That was when these communist frontmen pols like the Kenyan, Hillary, “Biden”, started insulting half the country when they campaigned…if they even bothered to campaign! They knew that votes no longer mattered. Up until that time, politicians never insulted anyone, no matter how much they despised people. When the Kenyan made his “bitter clingers” comment, I was taken aback, I had never heard such a thing out of the mouth of a politician. He’s NOT a politician, he’s an installed stooge, black, in order to place him above “white America”…and paradoxically calling America a “Racist country”….which doesn’t make any sense, until you understand that he was installed, not voted in by America. They are all installed, and have been for yrs.
Neocons John McCain and Mitt Romney? No working class people in the “blue wall” states were ever going to vote for either of those losers.
Ron Paul would have beat the Kenyan. They blacked him out, made Rombama “The Presumptive Nominee” before primaries were over. Even then computer geeks were talking about some computer voting machine “algorithm” anomalies where votes appeared to be shifting from Ron Paul to Rombama.
The signal is hoisted… BRAVO ZULU
And to the others adding further details & well crafted thoughtful works … thank you.
I would only add that Obama was grown-nurtured-intellectually formed .. not in a vacuum but on “the campus of higher indoctrination” & those of his fellow travelers as well.. (in all cases.. birds of a feather flock together.. it’s fundamental)… you can run the list of his known associates as well as me .. they’re all very well connected respected & similarly indoctrinated.
That road is now a “super highway” and the young minds being corrupted is devastating for our future.
Another favorite of my Dad’s (to go with the flocking birds) was “as a twig is bent.. so grows the tree..”. Obama’s-Biden’s-Clinton’s etc., etc., twigs got “bent” at a very young age… they grew quite twisted. It’s in our very human nature to be weak and influenced.. that’s why we hang with our parents but just as “good” parents bring up “good” kids.. bent&twisted kids grow from bent & twisted parents.. (mostly).
Thatisall..
Factor in the tutelage of Bill Ayers – Murderer, radical, marxist
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Ayers
In June 1969, the Weathermen took control of the SDS at its national convention, where Ayers was elected Education Secretary.[8] Later in 1969, Ayers participated in planting a bomb at a statue dedicated to police casualties in the 1886 Haymarket affair confrontation between labor supporters and the Chicago police.[13] The blast broke almost 100 windows and blew pieces of the statue onto the nearby Kennedy Expressway.[14] (The statue was rebuilt and unveiled on May 4, 1970, and blown up again by other Weathermen on October 6, 1970.[14][15] Rebuilding it yet again, the city posted a 24-hour police guard to prevent another blast, and in January 1972 it was moved to Chicago police headquarters).[16]
Ayers participated in the Days of Rage riot in Chicago in October 1969, and in December was at the “War Council” meeting in Flint, Michigan. Two major decisions came out of the “War Council”. The first was to immediately begin a violent, armed struggle (e.g., bombings and armed robberies) against the state without attempting to organize or mobilize a broad swath of the public. The second was to create underground collectives in major cities throughout the country.[17] Larry Grathwohl, a Federal Bureau of Investigation informant in the Weathermen group from the fall of 1969 to the spring of 1970, stated that “Ayers, along with Bernardine Dohrn, probably had the most authority within the Weathermen”.[18]
Ayers is still at it. All of the protests that are attached to BLM and other groups have “Day of Rage ” fliers posted.
The twisting is actually catechizing into the marxist religion. People are designed to worship God. If they deny God, they become materialist, and eventually satanic. This is the core problem with them.
Amen brother! Funny thing is, we were told, by them, what they were up to. ‘Top down, bottom up, inside-out.”
https://sovereignnations.com/2019/08/21/plan-change-everything-top-down-bottom-up-inside-out/
Can we just finally admit it is the bolsheviks. The communists that took over Germany after WWI and leaders of the Weimar Republic. It is the same “international clique” that plagued Germany. The same scum of the Russian Revolution as stated by Alexander Solzhenitsyn. All of the history people have been taught is a lie. When your government, media and academia are controlled by your enemy, it is easy to fool people. Not all were fooled. Many great men like Charles Lindbergh and Henry Ford knew the truth. They tried to warn us.
Germany knew what happened to the Russians and would do everything they could to prevent it from happening to them. I hope America is not destined for the same fate. More and more people are finding out the truth. The truth always wins out in the end. Hopefully, we can save America as Germany tried to save its people. It is time to wake up.
“This was the first time, so far as I know, that any Allied protest had been made to General Franco against the Spanish ‘volunteers’ on the Eastern Front. I had had no instruction from Washington to raise the question with him, and I anticipated that his reaction, to put it mildly, would be explosive. He surprised me by the calmness with which he replied. He said he would like to sketch the historical background of the current situation. The Spanish Civil War had involved a struggle within the country against Communist influences inspired and directed by Soviet agents, and so great and menacing were these influences that in the course of the Civil War he had signed the Anti-Comintern Pact with Germany and other Powers. Imagine his astonishment at learning, almost as soon as the Civil War was over, that Germany was making overtures to Russia and negotiating a kind of entente with its Communist regime. He protested to Hitler against such a violation of the Anti-Comintern Pact. He also protested to Mussolini, and approached England, France, and the Vatican about breaking up the new German-Russian association.
“When Germany attacked Poland in September, 1939, he and all Spaniards were thoroughly sympathetic with Catholic Poland, and in its behalf he made strong representations to Italy and to the Vatican. As he watched Germany’s allowing Communist Russia to appropriate a full half of Poland, he couldn’t conceive of Spain’s ever joining Germany under any circumstances. Then, when Finland was attacked by Russia, he explored the possibility of sending a volunteer Spanish division to help the Finns, and only the lack of needful armament and transport prevented its despatch. Finally, when Germany and Russia fell out, it became practicable to send Spanish volunteers to the Eastern Front. They were there, not to help Germany against us, but to show Spain’s hostility to Communism, which it deemed the greatest menace in the world.”
–Carlton Hayes, Wartime Mission in Spain
Franco was right and a great man. However, Germany made the pact to buy themselves some time to try and desperately negotiate with England. Rudolph Hess stayed in solitary confinement forever because he made the journey himself to plead with Britain for peace. Germany only wanted to fight Communism but was backed into a corner.
“I asked the Caudillo if he could contemplate with equanimity for Spain the lasting preponderance, all over the Continent, of Nazi Germany with its fanatical racialism and anti-Christian paganism. He admitted that that was not a pleasant prospect for himself or for Spain, but he trusted it would not materialize. He believed that Germany would make concessions if we would, and thus a kind of ‘balance of power’ could be reestablished in Europe. The danger for Europe, and for Spain, he insisted, was not so much in Nazi Germany as in Russian Communism. Spain did not wish an Axis victory but it most ardently wished the defeat of Russia. Spain’s ‘non-belligerency,’ he was at some pains to explain, meant that while it was not neutral in the struggle against Communism, and specifically in the war between Germany and Russia, it took no part in the conflict between the Axis on the one hand and the Western Powers on the other. Spain, he said, had no hostility toward the United States.”
-Ibid., p. 31
“A very important aspect of this state of mind, I found, was an almost universal fear of communism, a fear which amounted to an obsession. The number of outright Spanish Communists had never been large, but they were the one group in Spain, aside from the Falange, which had been efficiently organized and disciplined, which had known precisely what they wanted, and which had not hesitated to use any means to achieve it. Their fanaticism and organization still persisted, all the more suspect because it was now clandestine, and they were the one group, again aside from the Falange, which was not pacifist.”
-Ibid., p. 50
“In conversations of a year before, he had advanced a theory of ‘two wars,’ the one in Europe, and the other in the Pacific. Now he talked about “three wars.” One was the war between the English-speaking countries on the one hand and Germany and Italy on the other; in this Spain was neutral, and indeed ‘benevolently’ neutral toward us. The second was the Pacific War, and this was of prime importance. The Japanese must be defeated. They had never been touched below the surface by European civilization, and basically they were barbarians. They were the worst sort of imperialists. They intended to dominate China and the whole Far East and their recent pledge of independence for the Philippines was perfectly insincere. Spain had no liking for Japan, and would gladly cooperate with us in the Pacific War. But there was the third war, that against Communism. Unfortunately, the entire Continent of Europe was honeycombed with active and virulent Communist cells, by reason of a kind of decadence and breakdown of traditional civilization. As Communist Russia gradually got the better of the Germans, it would stir up and utilize for its own ends such cells in Italy and Germany and all the occupied countries, and thus manage in time to dominate the entire Continent.”
p. 161
“He [Franco] expressed the hope that in our victory we would safeguard Germany against Russia and against German communists. There was, he said, a sizable section of the Nazi party which was fundamentally sympathetic with communism, and he had reliable secret information from Germany that leaders of this section would prefer to have Germany surrender to and be occupied by Russia rather than England and the United States. He also had information that the Japanese were working hard to arrange an understanding and settlement between Germany and Russia, and that this was favored by a part of the Nazi leaders, though opposed by Hitler. He imagined that, in this respect, the majority of Germans were with Hitler. He thought it possible that Russia, after undoing the results of the war of 1914-18 and recovering the territories of the old Russian empire in Europe, might presently turn against Japan and seek to undo the results of the Russo-Japanese War of 1904-05 in the Far East.
“He expressed regret about the impending fate of Finland, Rumania and Poland. He had recently talked, he said, with the Ministers of Finland and Rumania. Each had explained the impossible position of his nation, with Germans, who were heartily disliked, in practical military occupation; with Russians, who were similarly disliked, ready for invasion and occupation; and with terrible civil strife impending between domestic partisans and adversaries of communism.”
p. 244
This theory stops too soon with no explanation of how or why the left came to power. The fact is that another group is responsible for putting the left in power thru extensive voter fraud, bribes and blackmail techniques. This higher group is the usual suspects the one world order world economic forum trilateral commission central banking and big corp criminal mafia cartel. It started before 1913 when the federal reserve act was passed. Do your own homework.. it’s all there. The left aren’t ruining the country and the world on their own. They are being paid off to ruin it by others.
The Amish cabal, WEF.
And Joe McCarthy was right.
Just found tbis over at PoweLine blog
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2023/05/no-dodging-the-democrats-degradation-or-were-all-san-francisco-democrats-now.php
”… today’s Democratic Party celebrates the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence, and persecutes in court the Little Sisters of the Poor, an actual group of faithful nuns. The “San Francisco Democrats” have gone from an epithet to the core identity of the party today.”
So, 40 years ago Dems were heading the wrong way, a trend that didn’t start then. With the Clintons they gained speed, and with Obama they hit the accelerator and the mask began to come off. It’s clear now that the would-be dictators care nothing for anyone but themselves. Why so many still can’t see that requires an explanation.
“It’s clear now that the would-be dictators care nothing for anyone but themselves. Why so many still can’t see that requires an explanation.”
Only a small percentage of people give more than a casual thought to politics. Day to day their lives just continue on as normal no matter who is in office.
Those of us here are heavily involved in politics. We forget that most people just do not pay attention to it. People seem to have no concept of cause and effect and do not connect the politicians they vote into office to their lives being more difficult now. How does one connect food prices to Biden? Most people don’t.
Democracy is not a good form of government. Democracies evolve into oligarchies and dictatorships. It is said that democracy is the best form of government, and that may be true, but it is not a good form of government. Everything we see happening in this country, everything, occurred under democracy. What does democratic government protect us against?
We are supposed to be a Republic where the people elected to represent us are aware of cause and effect whose job is to pay attention to the details that affect those who elect them. Half of the population is below the average IQ. A larger number of even the brighter cohort do not get a serious college education or have any interest in the workings of the government until bad things begin to happen to them. Then they fall back on the version of events provided to them by the news they watch. Even Fox News in its better days was shallow, repetitive, and full of ads.
In talking to the ignorant, it is impossible to make them connect the dots in a fairly brief conversation; if you try to help them, they look at you with astonishment and avoid you thereafter!
“In talking to the ignorant, it is impossible to make them connect the dots in a fairly brief conversation; if you try to help them, they look at you with astonishment and avoid you thereafter!”
In Catholic theology, the kind of ignorance you describe is categorized as “invincible ignorance.”
Until the people have nothing to loose they will go along. Slowly at first, then all at once…
Great article except for one part:
We were told that no one could destroy this country in 8 years when we tried to warn everyone who and what Obama was. We were called racists.
While I agree almost wholeheartedly, the Obamunists just opened the curtains exposing what had been going on for decades and then escalated the dissolution of America, not the U.S.
Sundance: Strongly suggest taking a very close look at the ideas of Tom Luongo. His views are compelling, and not unaligned eith yours… but you have to ignore some of his… err… passionately articulated speech… and his take on DeSantis. (He lives near Gainsville.) Understanding what he’s pulled together takes a good bit of work, but as someone with an economics background it’ll likely be easier for you than it was for me. His ideas explain a LOT and they cast a different light on the path forward.
Much of what he sees originates with zirp and leverage in the unregulated euro-dollar system. Under Obama, Yellen’s zirp literally funded much of the crap we are now experiencing as hyper-social-division. I view as foreign funded subversion of America and it was all very likely intended to result in a Great Reset after our financial collapse. Then Trump comes along and upsets everything (this is a part Luongo does not fully appreciate.)
Anyway, Luongo’s take on geopolitics is expansive and relatively original. Even if you disagree I promise you’ll find it very intriguing.
Bill Ayers:
“I wake up every morning and say ‘How am I going to end capitalism…?'”
Obama is still the King, and they’ll soon be back in the White House one way or another.
This was possible because the loyal opposition was neither loyal to the Constitution or Opposed to the Obama Dems. The Republican National Committee Party did not communicate and would not fight. They love money and perks. Did you see Romney pull back when he had Obama on the ropes? He was afraid of him
Now we will have $87 billion dollars more of IRS agents working with FBI to stop every Christian church, traditional middle class family, private business, or non-progressive club . Thank you Republican National Committee
Massive – holder level – sea change needed. A sad fact, but true. It’s a big factor why a second term needed to be stopped – even if a panic pandemic was required.
Here it is in three lines.
Most people (left or right) just want to be left alone to live their lives.
Nature abhors a vacuum.
The left NEVER gives up pursuit of power and so fills that vacuum.
“All organizations that are not actually right-wing will over time become left-wing.” John O’Sullivan, 1989,
To be honest, this discussion between the intellectuals seems like a conversation at the 10,000 foot level.
Yes, the liberal left elected Obama because DEI and he seemed elitist, Ivy League and genteel. The radical, Marxist left elected him because they knew he was a Marxist and would destroy America and bring forth communism. The globalists supported him because he would destroy America and some say because he is a Satanist pedophile like them.
He wasn’t the start of all this, he was the culmination. These groups had existed since the end of WWII at least and especially in the 60s.
These three groups have combined to bring forth the totalitarian government we are experiencing today.
This is why I think RFK,Jr is so important. I think he can split apart these groups. He can capture the liberal left and pull them away from the Marxists, the globalists and even the IC.
I have a feeling that the RFK, Jr. candidacy may become critical to 2024 – not sure yet in which way.
cf. Ross Perot and Ron Paul —– two guys with a lot of good stuff, but with some things outside the envelope, especially Paul.
RFK is saying some very important – Trumpian-sounding stuff, yet he has so many radical viewpoints that would economically devastate America.
Where will the independent voters fall on RFK? I see him pulling a lot of young, well-meaning, naive kids who may lean a little bit Trump, policywise, but have had TDS drilled into their heads.
When I was young I voted for Perot to get rid of Bush 41, because there was just something wrong there, that I couldn’t put my finger on, where I didn’t want to see a 2nd term – and Perot seemed like a solid-enough businessman and patriot.
So in ’92 I actually ended up helping elect Clinton, whom I didn’t want.
The RFK thing could possibly steal as many independent votes from Trump as from a Democrat, because he’s talking quite a few conservative lines, while maintaining the Green agenda. I hope not.
I guess we shall see.
Hmmm. I had not thought of that. The young people I know who are pro-Trump are anti-global warming/green agenda and unlikely to go for RFK, Jr. TPTB have really done a job on the minds of so many with their Democrats versus Republican dialectic that people identify so strongly with one or the other and are unlikely to cross even for issues they agree on.
Dr. Toby Rogers gets it. Here’s his latest blog on a familiar topic: The operation which Sundance calls “Jack’s Magic Coffee Shop” and which Toby calls “leftist cosplay”: https://tobyrogers.substack.com/p/there-is-no-political-left-what-appears
“‘activists’ took control of government.”——Such is the fraud and farce about Xinjiang, and the Americans have no basic reason,Being deceived is so miserable and the court did nothing.
https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/22-667.html
A minor tweak is suggested. Prior to 2008, leftists and the mainstream media opposed prosecuting leftists and their favorites who violated laws. They also opposed laws based on traditional values. They still do.
Concurrently, they favored laws that made people dependent on government, promoted death and misery, punished businesses & people embracing traditional values, and broaden + deepened the regulatory agencies. They still do.
They never opposed ,and still do not oppose, making government more powerful and meddlesome.
Once the Obama regime duped the public to vote for “change”, left-leaning tyrants took control of the bureaucracies and began using bureaucrats to oppress small government proponents, moderates, traditional Democrats and people who embrace traditional virtues. They have been assisted by elected puppets selected by those who control the Democrat Party and GOP.
A similar transition started in Europe when the European Union replaced the Common Market. Sadly, the European Union quickly became, or perhaps originated as, a Trojan horse for tyrants.
Authoritarian regimes come in all forms throughout history and they didn’t usually start out that way to boot.. The idea of a liberal authoritarian makes perfect sense when you remember that power is the same for all sides. It doesn’t take long with out functioning checks and balances to see the damage power presents.. What if I told you that the same system and mechanisms have been used by this nation before.. Anyone remember when the US pushed a global currency and then used it to manipulate countless nations or when they refused and the US staged violent revolutions not to mention the pesky business of taking advantage of impoverished nations for their resources.. I hope people were paying attention back then cuz it’s happening again. Except it’s on us.. If we are going to undo that mess it’s got to be from the inside and it starts with the DOD and military industrial complex. The FBI/CIA/DHS and other agencies are very much a part of that equation though. It’s the disbanding of them that takes the DOD down a notch when it comes to their scheming and political influence. As for the trillions at stake. The rest of the corporate oligarchy would be held in check by a neutered DOD unable to fund so many back door programs and if we can fix it.. a justice system not bent on protecting it’s own corrupted self interests..
Their railing against big government was all just a facade.
Well, Barak Obama did get his political education as a Saul Alinsky “Rules for Radicals” style “Community Organizer”
This is a very succinct article that pretty much lays the facts on the line. The leftists saw the amazing affect their activism had caused through the decades before the black Jesus took office, along with both parties of the fed guv. The political class, being already on the inside of policy matters, from both sides of the aisles, started the transformation of quitely, behind closed doors to the electorate, in adherance to their Marxist leanings, took advantage by changing the way the government operated by preying on Americans natural patriotism after the 9-11 attacks to rush in their control act of passing through the houses the patriot act which brought the agencies together as the most active spying organization ever arrayed against the people. Throw in the rapid advancement of technology and it only took them 8 years to start INJECTING unknown Marxist community organizer into the Oval office.
From there, insisting unworthy 8 year terms for the side in power, and actively throwing the full weight of the complete apparatus into the elites ejecting the most successful American President out of office through the machinations of democrat and republican globalists then CONTINUING to deface him through the cabals worthless money laundering schemes — while Americans were forced to sit and watch with their eyes wide open to this day.
The crappiest part about our current politics is not that the Leftists have gained complete control of the Bureaucratic State. It is that, just like in the movie “Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid”, everyone on our side continues to be focused on the same question. “Who are Those Guys?” Instead of “What do we do about the Collectivist mob that is controlling all of the levers of power in our Country?”
I am tired of the pointless finger pointing exercises. Next subject.
What is outlined here should come as no surprise to folks in their 7th decade of life as free people with open eyes and ears and inquisitive minds, in this nation.
What happened was they got into power.
Current “conservative” positions would have been considered “liberal” 20 years ago. The current radical left’s position is communism by any other name. And what the radical left government cannot achieve, corporations will be happy to do their dirty work. You can vote your way into socialism, but you have to shoot your way out. Get the pitchforks. –€
Makes sense.
Here’s my related life experience:
A ten year reading program started in universities ~2008.
Year one was animal rights.
Underlying message: equating humans with other mammals–no souls. No special creation.
They’d been pushing New Atheists for years, so this wasn’t new.
But several years later the ostensibly controversial reading series was a totally new issue: Intersex
My students often opted to use the reading series as the chosen topic for their major research project–a written debate, with created characters making the strongest possible arguments from various perspectives.
The Year of the Intersex (my phrasing) was different.
So what makes the biological fact of hermaphroditism controversial? Nothing.
I was mystified.
A year or two later: The Year of the Tranny.
I realized that Intersex had been the opening act for what they REALLY wanted to accomplish:
The erasure of gender, the end of the family, and obliteration of science.
I tried to find where the plan was intitiated–who was in charge of the program–but it was murky.
I did find an LGBT conference around 2006 that seemed a likely source for that element of the readings.
I had my very first tranny student in spring of Tranny Year.
By fall there were four…
they proliferated.
Being tranny was WAY more chic than “I’m BISEXUAL”–white girls’ previous effort to be special.
It bestowed real victim status!
The trannies loved to talk about their condition. As of 2017 none had lopped off body parts yet but some reported hormone treatment.
The extreme rapidity of the descent into lower ed is even more shocking than the exponential growth of college trannies
I was finally ousted from my 30 year teaching career in Spring 2017–President Trump’s election caused admin to — as far as I can tell — send spies out to report anything at all that could be used as fodder.
The week my contract was being renegotiated, suddenly!! my department chair told me students from several classes had reported
a) I’d used Milo and Gavin McInnes as examples of men’s rights proponents to fight “misandry” (vocab word). This made me a misogynist.
b) A student in another class had brought up the rape crisis in Sweden.
I said, “Yeah, if you’re interested, do some research on that.”
That made me an Islamophobe.
I’d known my department chair for decades, but now? He could do nothing to help. The Dean had told him I had to go.
For 30 years, I had the rare privilege of viewing the described process of change from the inside of the primary institution initiating social change.
What’s gone on in the time span you’ve described here was a very obvious and heavy-handed push down the slippery slope.
I agree that Obama is the one who is most responsible for radicalizing Democrats and liberals in general and causing liberals to drop the mask and become openly corporatist, fascist, tyrannical, globalist, warmongers.
Obama also turned mainstream liberalism from being center left, into being far left radical wokism.
At least, some of the corporatist, fascist, tyrannical, globalist, warmongering RINO type of people who traditionally grafted themselves into the Republican Party and the conservative movement in general are beginning to instead align themselves with the Democrats where they actually belong.
The radicalism of the left combined with the actions of the RINOs also sparked the MAGA movement to rise up in opposition. MAGA economic, foreign policy, and social policies are all important tools in fighting radical wokism.
Sundance’s picture of the liberal woman with a plastic bag even though she also ironically has a reusable cloth bag saying that she doesn’t use plastic bags hit home for me.
There is a town near me that imposed a woke bag fee on single use paper and plastic shopping bags two years ago and I haven’t shopped there since. Vote with your dollars.
If you do shop in a location with a bag fee, use the self check out lane, bag your purchases as usual, and when the self check out register prompts you to enter the number of bags that you used, throw some metaphorical sand into the their woke gears by lying and indicating that you used zero bags.