Last night I participated in a conversation. This article is written as an outcome of that conversation, as requested by those who participated.
Essentially, the framework of the conversation, as I initially listened, is best described as a series of questions amid a group of smart intellectual types who are very understanding of the nature of our current situation.
In various forms they were asking each other the same question. What happened in the last several years that caused Democrats, leftists and the traditional political left to switch positions on their advocacy?
Liberalism literally went from railing against Big Govt, to embracing corrupt Big Govt. Why and how did this happen?
In short, it was the same line of questioning I have seen asked by Tucker Carlson, Glenn Greenwald, Tulsi Gabbard and various traditionally liberal people as well as people on the right side of the continuum.
Why and how did traditional liberalism so suddenly flip from being, big picture – ‘anti-government’, to suddenly embracing corrupt government enterprise, and supporting the intelligence apparatus, federal govt (writ large), institutional oppressive law enforcement and FBI etc.? What happened?
After listening to this conversation quietly, as I am prone to do, my remarks -with citations and examples- silenced the room.
At the conclusion of my remarks, everyone asked me if I had ever written about this, and if not – why not? I did not have an answer, so consider this a promise fulfilled. Perhaps you might find value.
In the 50 years that preceded 2008, traditional leftists, media activists, left-wing community organizing agencies, Democrats, liberals, progressives, or whatever label you want to assign, essentially railed against the U.S. government and all that it represented. However, now, if you were to look at the issues from the 30,000-foot perspective, those same groups currently support the oppressive & weaponized system of government they formerly despised.
In the 50 years that preceded 2008, those same groups had an approach of distrust toward government, and the media apparatus had a very distinct supportive and cynical outlook, favorable to the leftist anti-government perspective. Now, all of that has reversed – seemingly flipped.
In the 50 years that preceded 2008, media pushed a one-way narrative in defense of those who were “targeted” by the institutions and mechanisms of government. As the activists railed against the regime, the media framed narratives to excuse the transparently guilty. Now, that entire dynamic has reversed. Now we see the media pushing a narrative in support of weaponized government targeting, and – here’s the kicker – framing the transparently innocent.
The activists went from accusing government of wrongdoing and defending the transparently guilty – to aligning with government, excusing government wrongdoing, and helping to attack the transparently innocent.
As some continue to say with jaw agape, WTF happened?
The answer “why” is not complicated…. not complicated at all.
In 2008, the ‘activists’ took control of government.
In January of 2009, the leftists, community organizers and activists took control of the systems they had opposed for the preceding 50+ years.
In January of 2009, and inflection point took place; an inflection point that no one realized in forethought, scale or consequence.
Starting in 2009, all of the systems of federal government were now under the control of the people who previously fought against the systems of federal government. Everything since is an outcome of that inflection point; that’s why everything flipped.
All of it, and I do mean every scintilla of the thing; every single granular detail and example you can put in front of me can be traced back to that moment when the activists were no longer outside government railing against the corrupt system they hated.
Starting in January of 2009, the activists took power over the United States government, and every outside institution, including media, necessarily and ideologically followed that inversion.
Starting in 2009, the systems and institutions of the U.S government now came under the control of the radical activists.
In the eight years that followed, the mission of every institution was changed. Government was weaponized on behalf of the leftist activists who now took control of it. Everything thereafter is a consequence of this change.
When I use the word “suddenly”, it is only for understanding the inflections point that came as a consequence. In actuality, the severity of change inside each institution took place over several years. That’s why the intensity of the weaponized and corrupt systems became worse over time.
As each institution was infiltrated to become more aligned with the mindset of the activists, the institutions became more radical in their targeting and weaponization.
The activists went from being outside government to being inside government.
Suddenly, the left-wing supportive media changed mission priority from railing against corrupt government, to defending the corrupt weaponization of govt.
Suddenly, the FBI went from targeting domestic threats, to targeting only the domestic threats defined as against the interests of the left-wing activists.
Suddenly, the outside activists went from being defined as social elements creating turmoil, to social elements now being defended and even promoted.
This is why we see outside activist groups like the Dream Defenders, New Black Panthers, Black Lives Matter, Occupy Wall Street and more recently ANTIFA, as protected and supported by the activists inside government now in control of the systems and institutions.
All of the social, cultural and political dynamics that changed traditional “liberalism” are easily understood once you realize and accept that activists took control of the power centers of the U.S. government.
Everything that followed, including our current state of social and political turmoil, is simply a natural conclusion of that fundamental change.
The radical activists are now in control of the institutions of power. This core shift is what created the dynamic of a very visible two-tiered justice system. Each institution was weaponized and continues to be weaponized against those who are not aligned with the activist ideology.
The Dept of Justice has been weaponized against people who are not in alignment with the radicals.
The federal police, known as the FBI, have been weaponized against We The People.
The Intelligence Community is now under the control of the radical activists. The mission priorities change accordingly.
When Tucker Carlson, Glenn Greenwald, Tulsi Gabbard or any other person posits the question about ‘why’ the ideology of the left and media has shifted so suddenly, there is your answer.
It is not a complicated understanding. Once you accept this fundamental change took place, everything seemingly falls into place….
…. At least that’s what the “ah-ha” audience told me.
My mother has said exactly this for years! I remember hearing him say he was going to “fundamentally change America.” Well, he sure did, didn’t he. The whole thing looks so neat and organized…it must have been (and still is).
So Sundance, how do we get out of this situation. From where everyone stands things are just getting worse. The White Hats who are supposed to be saving us, are letting bad things happen. Are we doomed.
As PoliticalFleaBites remembers it, President Reagan said, “Government is not the answer. Government is the problem.”
Deport, defund, deny, deconstruct.
I say and will continue to point out the beginnings of this coup was 22 November 1963. The agents of change were and are the CIA. One could abstract the cause point another level to the puppet masters, the international banking cabal and assign to the intelligence community the role as puppets. Not enough attention to the fundament; the cause point, will dilute efforts to save humanity. But yes, everything said in this article is clear and I bow to the elucidation of the answer to the question. I take to heart that I need to live my best life and get right with God. Sleep well with no doubts and wake up with new vigor and ideas that align with the effort. Oh, and before I finish “banish doubt and build love.”
There was no opposition. Only infiltration everywhere.
If they could fill train cars with their enemies on a one-way journey they surely would, smiling all the while.
Well said!
The 20th century provides a steady stream of colossal examples (urgently papered-over since that Cold War ‘victory’). And H*tler learned how to do all of that from Marx, et al; not the other way around.
They’re working on it.
my old Browning 12 guage says I ain’t gitten on that train car and I may take one of them with me on the way out.
A Belgian made light 12 with a full choke perhaps?
dunno. it does make a big noise and with heavy shot knocks me on my but
nah, cylinder and slug
A slug has more recoil than about any other load. Have you ever gone to the range to see what you can hit at 50 or 100 yards? Probably not much because you’re going to flinch because you know the recoil is going to tear up your shoulder.
Remington street sweeper with double-aught.
I think they have a plan for circumventing the 2A; CBDC.
No swat teams going door to door and getting in fire fights, you just have your debit card, or equivalent, declined.
You call your bank they tell you your account is frozen; any direct deposits will go in, but no u.s. govt crypto goes out, and you have to talk to the gummint.
You go talk to them and they tell you you can keep your guns and your account stays frozen or you can turn in your guns, and it will be unfrozen.
I don’t see it working, but I think thats their plan.
I just watched an old movie from 1981 that I stumbled across – “Early Warning”. It uncannily presented several issues, like the freezing of bank accounts, that we are seeing come to pass. Like Canada did to the truckers who dared protest – they froze their bank accounts. Its happening now. How did they see all of this coming from 40 years ago. They knew.
More likely a drone shoots an incendiary into the roof of your house at 3:00 am.
Instant 1400 degrees Fahrenheit. That’s if you refuse your next vaxx and have guns to defend yourself.
I’ve got an ‘old Browning 12 guage’ handed down from my Dad. He said, ‘Take good care of it, you may need it some day.’
This could be in our near future, if these Collectivist radicals stay in power. People are flirting with Communism, just by voting for their Daddy’s Democrat Party. Electing Barack Hussein Obama was the dumbest thing our country has ever done. He became a Leftist radical during the 1980s. He was groomed by his mentors in the Communist Party. He was ‘the one’ they decided could be made into a President and they set out on a 20 year mission to make it happen. It happened and our Government is now run by these anti-American cockroaches. The truth was always out there, but I for one could never convince any other patriotic person that this could have happened back in 2007, when Barack Hussein Obama launched his campaign. It worked, and now ‘woke’ is the operative word.
It was Eric Holder who successfully argued in the Supreme Court that racism is systemic and white people are culpable because of the privilege they were born with in our society. The Supreme Court agreed with that twisted logic and nobody has brought the subject back to them. Equity legally replaced equality and here we all are now. Only since Biden was installed have I been able to convince anyone that I am not a kook for stating these facts. I am on this site because I have found a group of people who basically know those facts.
Now we have to convince a lot of people who have never pulled the levers for Republicans that we are different because we came from working class neighborhoods, just like theirs, because this is the only path that can defeat the radicals and their useful idiots.
Agree except screw the Republicans we are Americans. The GOP left me and America, they were bought.
They have sure bollixed up the language, haven’t they?
Intentionally; we THINK in words. Their is an accepted theory that when we learn a new language, at first we still THINK in our native language and then translate to speak, and vice versa when others speak to us.
But, if we speak the new language enough, eventually we THINK in the new language.
The theory is that this inherently CHANGES OUR THINKING.
So, since we think in words, changing our language, to make some concepts difficult to express, or vague, or to increase division and suppress comity, would be valuable to those seeking control; literally “getting in our heads” through controlling words.
Very good point, that had never occurred to me, thank you.
George Carlin saw it years ago
Like practically making the word “homosexual” unacceptable, and replacing it with the term ‘gay”. One connotes the act in your head. The other moves the mental image away from sex.
Using hate speech laws to make it illegal to even point out what is happening.
So, what do you suggest we do? Failing to take the required medicine was usually a bad solution for the patient back when we still had actual Medical Doctors for our health care. Best I can do during the final stages of our Constitutional Republic.
And the Republicans blackmailed themselves when they did nothing and said nothing to try to stop Obama from being sworn-in by John Roberts in 2009. Both parties by their actions and/or inaction committed treason and are complicit in giving America’s government and her military to her enemies via the total fraud Barack Hussein Obama. It was critical that the planned and promised in 2008 after Obama cover president win, and when Hillary was defeated by the last person both complicit in The Obama Fraud political parties wanted, Donald Trump….both parties panicked and Trump was harassed by the weaponized to protect Obama alphabet agencies and removed from office as soon as possible because Trump was not part of the cover-up plan for The Obama Fraud……instead he is the opposite and is a threat to reveal and act on the truth about Barry……now, after Trump was removed from office in the stolen 2020 election both parties want to insure Trump is never president again……….The truth about Barry is an enemy of both parties as they protect themselves from possible charges of treason for allowing and protecting the fraud Barack Hussein Obama, as he fundamentally changes America….currently by using his “3rd term” and his ex-V.P, Joe Biden………
I had an article that said when Barry was a kid he hung out with the Black Panthers… Certainly many of the Weather Underground did.
The Weather Underground / Bill Ayers planned to kill the 25 million dissidents after the vaccine rollout.
They had no idea 50-100 million of us would resist.
Ok – so Sundance explains how and why this happened in the US of A, but can anyone explain why it happened throughout the western world.
My opinion is that it began when the world denied the existence of the Divine Creator and pretented hell and satan did not exist.
This all started in the 1960 s when the education system was corrupted and sodomy was made compulsory in Californica and exported across the hemisphere.
It started way before the 1960’s. The German Masters’ program started in what, the 1830’s?
The left always plays the long game. The counter culture may have started in the 60’s but they didn’t start indoctrinating the kids in K-12 schools until the 80’s and 90’s. Colleges would of course have been earlier in this practice which would have put their time line in the 60’s and 70’s range.
This coincides with 2009 being the point where these indoctrinated leftists would be of age and position to hold power. All that was needed was a catalyst to bring the change to fruition. That catalyst was Obama.
Just as socialism is a pretext to communism, leftist ideology is a pretext for authoritarianism. This authoritarianism is where we are now with the lunatics running the asylum in our post-Constitutional society.
Those lunatics are by and large card carrying Communists, and if we don’t stop niggling over the details we will never stop them. Donald Trump appears to be the only hope we have and we have to get him elected. That is it. MAGA is not a club, it is a movement. We don’t care about where to point fingers anymore. We just have to win if we want to get our Country back.
I think we have more to worry about right here and right now because Sundance was spot on about the Obama Gang of radicals. He just did not go to the starting line, which is the world wide Communist movement, which has been ongoing for +/- 120 years. Our economy foiled them for the +/- 90 years or more because they couldn’t very well argue that Capitalism was the source of all the problems of the world. So they switched the argument to racism and they got traction from the various minority groups in the USA. The economys of the European Countries did not keep up with us. So Communism kept pounding away at Capitalism in Europe, while adding the racism component after it started to succeed here.
But, the facts are the facts and how the strategies of the Communists changed is paramount only to the reason a black person was chosen by the Demcommies to run in 2008. This is why Sundance was spot on about what he said. He likes the truths that are relevant to our current situation. Maybe he would like to speak to this discussion later, if time ever permits him to.
When the Republicans did nothing in 2009 to stop the ineligible, identity fraud con-artist Barack Hussein Obama from being sworn-in as America’s putative president and commander-in-chief of her military they all became complcit in The Obama Fraud and now must cover for and protect Obama to protect themselves from possible charges of treason. Both parties gave America’s government and her military to her enemies and ignored their sworn-oath to protect the Constitution. From that moment until today it has been and still is all about the cover-up. Hillary was not supposed to lose as the planned and promised after Obama cover president, and for sure not to Donald Trump.
Trump while in office was kept very busy with bogus impeachment attempts and investigations which failed, but he was then removed from office in the stolen 2020 election and now both parties are desperate to insure Trump will never be president again…… to protect themsleves from even the possibility of being charged with the massive treason they comitted and are now despartely trying to keep covered………Not complciated but apprently too big to prosecute………America is losing….everything………..
No trains necessary. Just have the sheep line up for a vaxx booster.
The Left never believed in liberty, or freedom, or justice, or civil rights. Those are ideals Americans hold dear and the Left used them as a cudgel when they were in the minority and doing so was to their benefit and served their purposes. When they secured power they immediately dropped their pretense and showed their true face: Authoritarian, corrupt, and repressive.
🎯
They got inside
They liked it there
They won’t be giving it up
(no matter WHO occupies the President’s chair)
but what about those who didn’t “secure power?” Let’s say the guys who worked in Indy bookstores and went to bars and coffee shops in the 80’s and talked about this stuff but never got govt job?
Who did they vote for?
It started in Dallas
But wound up in Manchuria
The Bush family came from Germany *after* WWII.
I believe the older George H W Bush fought the Germans as a pilot in WWII. I also believe the Bush family was already located in Kennebunkport, Maine at that time. Maybe they did originally come from Germany, but most German immigrants were here long before WWII. The hill country of Texas was settled by German immigrants in the 1800s.
I didn’t even finish this article. You are missing something so fundamental. There is a metaphor that goes something like this (I wish I could credit the source – probably an ancient text or two): Say you have a ship. Over time, certain planks, timbers, sails, the rudder, etc., fall into disrepair, rot, disfunction… each is replaced when needed. Over time, the entirety of the ship has been replaced: Every plank, rope, sail, system… even the sailors as they age out or die off. Is it the same ship? Or something new, extant, apart from the original (other than design – but even that can go through permutations)? Same for the Left, and any institution you care to name – they’ve morphed from those halcyon days of “free speech,” “free assembly,” “equal rights” (which now really means to squelch the rights of certain others), and all the rest. All of the old members are dead, new woke-sters populate these groups, and they (the institutions and current members) are lost to the old ideals. This isn’t hard to see – and is nothing to be figured out. It is obvious.
What you are describing is the “Ship of Theseus” or “Theseus’ Paradox”.
Without going to far into the weeds of philosophy, a primary concept is what constitutes “identity”.
I would make an argument that what they have done is more akin to supplanting by taking the place of the “thing” then anything else.
To draw an analogy, not unlike how the aliens depicted in a number of science-fiction movies that were able to assume a human form. Like in the “The Thing” or “Invasion of the Body-Snatchers”.
Irony is that at least one of those in the genre was specifically written during the Cold War as an allegory of the threat of Communist ideology.
“Invasion of the Body-Snatchers”.
I often feel like I am living in that movie. Every official has been replaced with a corrupt scumbag, along with thousands of others..
Theseus didn’t have the understanding of cellular biology that we have, as it is a better metaphor, and I think makes the question more complex.
What is described, is your body; there is not ONE CELL that is in your body today, that was there say,…7 years ago.
Hence, the statute of limitations has a cellular rational; “honest Judge, it wasn’t ME what robbed that store!”
Every cell has a ‘best buy date’, and when it reaches it, it goes thru self destruction even as a new cell is formed to take its place.
So, are YOU,….you?
Ain’t phylosophy fun?
Yes, because you are genetically unique.
I respectfully disagree and here’s why… Many of the people and organizations involved haven’t changed. Their position and attitude has changed. On any number of issues, they’ve “evolved”. Crime bills, foreign wars, surveillance, gay marriage, abortion, voter fraud accusations, etc. I could go on forever and am probably missing a ton of obvious ones.
As simple as your explanation is, I think it’s even simpler…. They got a taste of power. And they love it.
Uh, that’s pretty much what Sundance said. Except he didn’t need to use a metaphor. He pointed to actual happenings.
I agree with you, David. My US History teacher in high school (1962) once critiqued a paper I wrote with these words, “Do not mistake the props for the drama.” Sundance did a great job in describing some of the props. But the drama, as I see it, is the great American ideal losing its virtue, its validity in the hearts and minds of our people and heading towards decline and ruin. History tells us that from the moment when the moral forces on which a civilization rests lose their strength that civilization’s final dissolution is inevitable. At the present day, the great fundamental ideas (e.g., Judeo-Christian moral traditions) which were the mainstay of our fathers are tottering more and more. So many ideas formerly considered beyond discussion are today decayed or decaying (e.g., marriage, family, patriotism, The Constitution and Bill of Rights, et al), and the institutions resting upon them are severely shaking. No nation has ever been able to change its beliefs without being condemned at the same time to transform all the elements of its civilization. The process of transformation is two-fold: (1) destruction of those religious, political, and social beliefs in which all the elements of our civilization are rooted; (2) creation of entirely new conditions of existence and thought.
People are governed as their character determines they shall be governed. The old beliefs are doomed when the people question their value. The weakening of general beliefs among our people clears the ground for a crop of haphazard opinions without a past or a future. What constituted a people, a unity, a whole, becomes in the end an agglomeration of individualities lacking cohesion, and artificially held together for a time by traditions and institutions. But as the public’s indifference, intolerance and general malaise toward the old values grows, the functions of government necessarily increase in proportion. This is the point when people, still living under the illusion of possessing their liberties but divided by their interests and aspirations, are incapable any longer of self-government, requiring directing in their pettiest acts: the State becomes an all-powerful god.
“The best lack all conviction, while the worst. Are full of passionate intensity. Surely some revelation is at hand…”
Perhaps THE revelation?
Yeats was truly the greatest poet in English in the 20th Century, and his work is timeless.
Shouldn’t Tom Hayden, Bill Ayers, David Axelrod, Rahm Emanuel, Jerry Rubin and other leading 60’s radicals be a part of this discussion? They were the one’s who prepared the way by transforming public education into indoctrination–producing citizens to be led by “leaders” (government & corporate) steeped in Ivy League radicalism…like the woman who killed Bud Lite. What’s happening now is what Ayers, Axelrod & Co. were preparing for while everybody else tuned in, turned on and dropped out. Communists are nothing if not relentless.
Brennan, Kissinger, Brzezinski and a few others.
Ain’t heard a peep about Ayers in a hot minute.. I wonder why??
Bill Ayers is probably drunk with power. His wildest dreams have come true.
He has a blog. I check it from time to time its http://www.hisfullname dot org
Then I delete my cookies after having read
He is still commie b@stard
YES!!!! Bernardine Dohrn, Stanley Ann Dunham, Frank Marshall Davis
So-called “public education” was designed from the get-go to be indoctrination. Horace Mann and the Prussian School System. There’s patient zero.
This!!! I should have read further into the comments before posting
I would argue that Obama was the culmination of decades of infiltration of the Democrat party by communist elements. Marxists have been present in the US since the 1800s; they have worked steadily to inflict their religion on the rest of us. David Horowitz, a leftist turned conservative, has been documenting this for many years now. https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2013/11/12/Horowitz-blasts-left-Heritage/
IMO it’s not actual marxists. It’s globalists in control of Five Eyes ICs using marxist ideas (plus Woke and anything else) to forward their control. Much of what we see on TV and internet is sophisticated psyops in service to their control. Often that coincides with objectives of the CCP but that’s just chance.
If there is a schism we can use to our advantage it is that between the BRICS and our Regime.
And agree with Sundance. The Obama admin injected many new top appointees to political positions. They began and/or exacerbated the corruption of the agencies.
https://rumble.com/v2lsxwe-the-david-horowitz-black-book-of-the-american-left.html In the Q&A M Stanton Evans educates Horowitz on the Roosevelt administration.
SD, how did this conversation take place?
Who are your compatriots, if I may?
@Sundance I was born in 1958; this has happened in my lifetime. ☹️
In my lifetime as well.
My concern is next shoe to drop while we are looking over here. For me it is the 5pm call to prayer folk. Silently infiltrating all over. Different values altogether, the radical group. We shall cry for the women.
We were a Chrisitian nation.
At Kent State in the 60s we had students like Obama. When he walked on the stage for the first time, I knew we were in trouble…I didn’t realize how much.
I wailed on Election night that year. I KNEW our country was finished.
Obama showed up with unfettered power and the fundamental transformation was raised to a fever pitch.
It didn’t happen magically in 08′. Nothing about it is organic and the only institution with power, money, and control to make it happen is the trillionaire central bankers acting as the most brutal mafia shadow money on the planet.
Indeed.
The Money Masters – The Rise Of The Bankers
Renaissance 2.0 – Financial Empire – Full Length – Damon Vrabel(How America went from being a Constitutional republic to a debt machine/global financial empire)
(also highly recommend watching Paul Grignon’s Money as Debt and Mike Rivero’s All Wars Are Bankers Wars, Aaron Russo’s America Freedom to Fascism, and reading G. Edward Griffin’s The Creature From Jekyll Island and Ellen Brown’s Web of Debt)
Yes, trillionaire central bankers have taken over the world by getting control over nations by getting the power to issue national currencies out of thin air and loan them to governments at interest. Governments around the world are in debt to private bankers for money created out of thin air, money they could have issued themselves.
Get the dvd “The International” with Clive Owen.
Seems like an intersting fictional account of the 3rd largest bank in the World, that provides rogue govts, terrorist organisations, intel services, drug/human trafficing gangs, etc. with a one-stop shop.
Not just money laundering, but illegal arms transfers, intel and logistics, assasinations, whatever they need.
And, the main character (Owens) is an Interpol agent, who’s investigation of it is constantly thwarted, including having a whistblower killed right in front of him.
So, a good yarn. But, only when you watch the additional “special features” where they interview the writer/director do you learn it is closely based on a true story, and how the bank was gradually “unwound”, but nobody went to jail.
John Kerry was heavily involved.
At the end of the movie, as Owens is preparing to shoot the banker, the banker says “Sure, you can shoot me. But there will be 1000 bankers lining up to take my place.”
Hypersonic nuke on Geneva, its is the planned home of the One World Government.
It’s less a problem to be fiat if it’s well managed: the highest performing currencies historically were fiat.
The main problem is Congress delighted the control of the currency to wolves.
A recurring theme, with privatizations of much of government functions. Echoes of the bankers looting Yeltsin’s Russia.
Obama is their agent, for “change”.
Classic deception, playing on people feeling good about fairness in electing an articulate black man for President, then he took us for a ride, just like wokeness itself, preying on people’s better nature via deception and gaslighting.
From the fruit, you can tell the brand and the source of evil, not only that it’s evil.
I propose that the great tetonic shift in American culture and direct assault on it’s judeo christian mileau, which we all know is the basis for the US Constitution, begin with the 1973 decision to allow babies to be murdered while in the womb. That was when Satan begin the great all out assault on the Christian Spirit in America. And because American has allowed this to happen, we have lost favor with our Heavenly Father. As we sow, so shall we reap.
I propose that the shift was the development of the pill and the escape from responsibility.
When mom forgot about apple pie and burnt her bra and there were no immediate consequences……….
That and the ability of the world bankers to lend themselves money and therefore bankrupt anyone else. The family, the moral family is everything and the key is responsibility and morality.
Edgar Rice Burroughs had Tarzan civilized by Jane……that was a step up from the jungle. The step back down into the jungle was when Jane started looking at Cheetah and so did Tarzan.
It started long before that when they took control of universities and law schools back in the 70s and 80s. Everything flowed from there.
Sundance is spot on.
obama and his ilk hate us MAGA types and want to destroy us. However, the people being destroyed are his ilk. Big blue states and big blue cities are becoming hard to live in. Public schools public transportation public rest rooms must be used by obama types. Food deserts are occupied by obama lovers. Maga people have other choices. We can home school. We have our own trucks, and toilets. We grow and hunt our food. so, for all obama’s hate for MAGA and his all out effort to cleanse America of us he simply hurt his own people the ones who look like and act like him. While we worry his hatred of us may hurt us, I believe we are so far above his intellect and wyliness that most of us will not be touched by his hatred. I say most of us because of the J6 political prisoners.
That horrible night in November 2008 when it was clear Obama had won, I shuddered at the foreboding of a crescent moon rising in the sky and felt a blanket of evil dropping over this entire Country. That evil metastasized over Obama’s 8 years in Office, rendering our Country almost unrecognizable today.
Remember that crescent moon too . Yes it was the great turning point , you could feel it .
And today the residents of Minneapolis hear it 5 times a day.
I will never step foot in Minneapolis again.
Cam Kuwata
Now, how do we fgain control of the government back from the demonic?
But what if government in-of-itself is demonic and anti-civilization?
Gee, how do WE combat Satan?
If only WE had some kind of directions,…preferably written down.
Great point, it makes total sense, they had been slowly infiltrating the government bureaucracies and education system for years, so when the activists seized control of the White House the transformation was finalized. And they’ll do what it takes to keep their power.
Again it’s a light bulb of clarity when you stand back and put two and two together .
While the acceleration since 2008 and the Marxist take over of government, I think you still have to put a lot of the blame on George Bush. The Patriot Act , voting machines, the elevation of Big Pharma (Medicare Part D) the concept of endless war, media monopolies, the education industrial complex (No Child Left Behind), these all came out of the Bush Administration. Not to mention 9/11 and the financial crisis happened on his watch. And we never talked about who bought his paintings.
There was much on a societal level that paved the way for Obama to coalesce the powers we strive against today.
-LBJ’s Great Society set the stage for a radical shift in domestic policy and the government became the sugar daddy.
-Women’s rights (including birth control and Roe v Wade) further eroded the family unit.
-A series of CIA associated presidents and close advisors to presidents continued the corrupt American values.
-The universities all the way down to pre-schools now, condemn what were previously vaunted ideals and values.
-Bush and 9/11, the Patriot Act, the legitimacy of America’s actions surrounding 9/11 at home and abroad were highly suspect.
Usher in Barack HUSSEIN Obama who purged the institutions and military of those aligned with traditional parameters of patriotism.
Demoralize the people, refuse to put forth a budget, radically shift voting practices, mandate Obamacare, advance leftist judges, sow racial discord ferociously and so on.
Dire times.
“This is no small thing, to restore a republic after it has fallen into corruption. I have studied history for years and I cannot recall it ever happening. It may be that our task is impossible. Yet, if we do not try then how will we know it can’t be done? And if we do not try, it most certainly won’t be done. The Founders’ Republic, and the larger war for western civilization, will be lost.”
Mike Vanderboegh
Not to be sacriligious, but just as an analogy; Bush jr was John the Baptist to Obama as Jesus.
He paved the way. And while Sundance presents it as unintentional (perhaps because he can’t prove it) there is just too much the George did that was paving the way for the weoponisation that I am confident it was intentional, even if I don’t have the reciepts.
I have never, not for one minute, believed Obama’s “election” was legitimate.
From day one I believed someone somewhere had done something illegal to get him into office.
I believe elections have been rigged for decades, and the Community Organizer’s rise to power was no exception.
The Marxists planned the take-over of our country for decades, doing it incrementally, doing it slowly, doing it methodically so it would not shock the average American.
They did it, and Obama was just one of many who are part of the Marxist crowd.
obama was not natural born if the kenyan was his sperm doner. so yes Raven his election was not legitimate. remember pelosi’s big deal over mccain being natural born since he was born on a US military base in Panama?
I know too many that proudly voted for him in ’08. I don’t think he won in ’12, not against the backdrop of economic woes, Obamacare and people waking up to how disastrous he was as president.
I still say the reason he sealed all his school records was because he got financial aid as a foreign student.
Bush v Gore was all kabuki theater, to get us motivated to accepting machine voting.
They were manipulating outcomes before, the machines just made it,..easier.
J Christian Adams put this all out in his book “Injustice” were Obama packed the DOJ with radical leftists. Personnel is policy and that is so blatantly obvious. Trump was hamstrung to counter this since this DOJ was so heavily stacked against him, attacking him on every front. Unless we the citizens are allowed to scour the upper floors of the DOJ ( and FBI) with our AK’s , AR’s, SKS’s the injustices will continue.
“In 2008, the ‘activists’ took control of government.” OK but how does this explain the opinions of regular/non-Govt employed people? They are separated from the power. Why do they go along with this? And cheerlead it? I think I have an answer:
They want to parrot the talking points of the powerful. They suck up. They think if they mouth the lines, they will be on the “winning team.”
Am I correct?
The leeches are killing the host. They know that but there is still resistance, so there is still something to be had. The trend is towards full capitulation. Obvious to me this won’t be a good thing. Some guests will show up at a beautiful home for a party and appreciate its beauty others just want to drink the booze and trash it.
The media has completely brainwashed the average person. They have no idea that every word they hear on the news is a lie and propaganda.
Why do lemmings all jump off a cliff together?
Me, I think other factors are also in play … the Homeland Security Act that created a massive domestic surveillance apparatus, in tandem with loose fiscal policy that allowed a huge influx of people to get on the federal payroll. Bottom line — literally and figuratively –an awful lot of people are now paid to side with the government. Unmoored from any morality or religion, they have no trouble convincing themselves that selling out their nation is just good business. We saw the fruit of that during the Obama Administration, when virtually all of the cities experiencing booming growth were located around the DC Beltway.
They need to secure more control over the population before the economy crashes. CDBC looks like the main candidate tool.
And to think that he told us, “we’re 8 days away from fundamentally transforming America”. I think those were the words, if not, it’s close. I don’t think many people knew or understood what he was saying. All I figured is that whatever it was, it wouldn’t be good because he hated this Country.
I knew exactly what he meant. I immediately switched my party and tried to warn people not to vote for him. No one listened! I joined the tea party to try to stop him. If only more people understood what he meant. Instead the morons in the audience clapped wildly for the destruction of our country.
We need to go a little deeper… So, how did the activists take over? I offer this hypothesis: The Democratic Party transformed from being the working sub-elite party to being the liberal plutocrat party during the few decades leading up to 2008. This happened as the result of the processes that destroyed the power of labor unions and destabilized the entire working class…anti-union policies under Reagan, outsourcing and automation of stable factory jobs. There have always been plutocrats of liberal stripe, but they were not always the controllers of the Democratic Party. Once they became so and were able to win enough political power they then naturally sought to impose their liberal values on society. Had there still been a strong sub-elite working class component in the party (meaning a great number of the MAGA folks conned by Trump), this would have provided a counterbalance toward some of their more radical ideas. The recent abuses of power by the Democrats in order to maintain their power, i.e. the Russiagate hoax, the labeling of Jan 6 as a violent insurrection, and the pre-2020-election cover-up of Hunter’s laptop are all just standard acts of power maintenance. Let’s remember that it is natural for both parties to seek total control and stay there…If we have either party with too much power for too long we will get either liberal or conservative fascism. In either case, and in the normal teeter-totter power balancing of our elections, the USA is not a democracy of the sub-elite vs the elite but of the liberal vs the conservative plutocrats…not the democracy envisioned by Jefferson. If we don’t get big money out of control in politics, and that very much includes the MSM, we will be stuck with this.
So you place origin of this on Reagan? Gtfo.
I agree big money plays too big a role in politics but I cannot agree to the rest of your post.
“MAGA folks conned by Trump”? “the Russiagate hoax, the labeling of Jan 6 as a violent insurrection, and the pre-2020-election cover-up of Hunter’s laptop are all just standard acts of power maintenance”?
Nah bro! Standard acts of power maintenance?! JFC! Those acts are the deep state working alongside of Hillary Clinton to thwart to will of the people that elected Trump!
Plus you posit the hackneyed binary of D vs R which no longer exists.
At the risk of sounding like a kook, your post looks very much like deep state AI to me. Just close enough to the tone of the group to be accepted, but deeply manipulative.
How about lobbyists took a foothold in Washington DC in 1975. By the way there’s only one party in DC and they don’t work for, “we the people,”
The assumption is all arguments and good works are all disguised attempts at power. Which is a lie, and a very dangerous idea, reducing all human motives to power-seeking, consciously or unconsciously.
Comes from French deconstructionism, inspired by Nietzsche, copied into the Frankfurt School, and Class War Marxism. It’s all the idea that humans cannot have a purely noble motive, takes man a beast rather than made in the image of the creator.
Trying to piece together a series of inflection points. Arbitrarily picking the point when state legislators no longer picked their U.S. Senators ,turning the Senators first loyalty to their individual State , to loyalty to their party. Next inflection point came with FDR’s presidency when number of Federal went from about 1776 Statutes total to almost doubling every year since. Also around this time a Mister Dewey infected the public school system with Atheism and individual Absolutism took root. Next President Johnson’s Great Leap Forward I meant Great Society and the beginning of the end the nuclear family. Etc etc until we arrive at President Obama Presidentc
I agree 100%.
However, there is a prelude that IN MY MOST HUMBLE OPINION allowed for the “if not now, when?” revolutionaries to seize power.
That event was the W’s war on Iraq.
Specifically, the one event that I think is the genesis of the leftist takeover was Colen Powell lying about WMD’s at the UN.
I was stunned that so many Democrats supported the invasion.
I soon realized that a deal had been struck between R’s and D’s, and that deal allowed the war to go on.
What it did was un-moor conservative values from their basis in objective truth.
What unfolded was this mindset that “if the conservatives can make shit up, why can’t we?”. (I.e. hey, it’s all relative.)
I saw just this in my own circle of friends. They started questioning everything that they believed in at times.
Some of them even started watching the Daily Show and thought it was funny.
It somehow became cool not be like George Bush.
So by the time the Financial Crisis came along, even among my friends there were those looking for a savior.
And he came in the form of the “Chicago jesus”.
So when he started putting all the basement bolsheviks into positions of authority within the US gov., there was only a few lonely voices who were opposed. One of them was Glenn Beck on his Fox program. Sometimes I rewatch those shows and am left in awe about how right he was.
But then he got booted, went out on his own, got into finanacial trouble and sold out with the lot.
Anyways, the Bush War on Iraq needs to at least have a footnote in the story leading up to the silent Color Revolution.
The real key is when Mr. “Fundamentally change the nation “ took office. I knew the moment Obama said that —a serious attempt would be made to have a “convention of states” (a term not found in the constitution ) gunning for the constitution!! And they are. this group (millions in donations from the elites) not ordinary people, are wanting to get their grubby hands on our constitution!!!
The thing that always amazed me was that, while first running for office to become President, when then candidate Obama said he wanted to ‘fundamentally change’ the United States, that other than Joe the Plumber, no one ever asked candidate Obama exactly what he meant by ‘fundamental change’ –
and when he was asked that question by the potential voter, it was the man who asked the question of what did the candidate mean by fundamental change, it was the person who asked the question (Joe the Plumber) that was pilloried and became the first casualty of the weaponization of our government via the newly forming government arm we like to call the news media.
When that whole episode when down, and the media openly mocking the question I knew our nation, as a republic, was in real trouble.
Once weaponized, they use the courts mainly, to remove political opposition! Their are other modes used-but the courts are the main ones used.
The change they hoped for is here.
It was the Weather Underground (with their ties to Cuba and Communists) and the Democratic students socialists alliance who did this–Obama and all the WU supoorters who remained under the radar who did this.
Theres so much I can write about this.
I wonder if this was payback for the governments fighting wars-Vietnam, Iraq etc and/or payback for arresting and imprisoning the WU terrorists
2009. The first year of Obama. He did not fundamentally transform the United States without Republican help from the inside. Uniparty be damned.
You’re right, of course. As an addendum, as an aside really, for those wondering why the woke Left has gone from admiring and defending Russia for the 75 years when it was the Soviet Union (after all, Bernie Sanders spent his honeymoon in Moscow), to hating Russia now – the answer is just as simple — In 1992 Russians rejected communism. For the modern woke Left, the rejection of socialism/communism is an unforgivable act.
I recognized this in 2008 when Obama said he was going to fundamentally transform America! I was horrified and frightened. I joined the tea party in the hopes of stopping the destruction of my country.
“Fundamental Change” equals Revolution in Communist term.
There were signs, fig. flies crawling on his face.
You explained the how and when but not the why. You posited the existence of the end product of political shenanigans. The core issue is deeper and has to do with how men behave and are treated and what women have become.. This is about as good an essay I have ever read on the subject. https://theamericansun.com/2023/05/23/in-defense-of-ontogenetic-masculinity-2/
Well before I reached the end of the post, I recalled a vignette from O’satan’s inauguration. Someone in the crowd of mucky-mucks was upset at the fighter jet flyover, thinking it was too militaristic. Someone else said: “It’s ok, those are our planes now”, and the first Marxist was mollified by that answer.
Speaks volumes.
Students for a Democratic Society (SDS) was a national student activist organization in the United States during the 1960s, and was one of the principal representations of the New Left. Disdaining permanent leaders, hierarchical relationships and parliamentary procedure, the founders conceived of the organization as a broad exercise in “participatory democracy“.
From its launch in 1960 it grew rapidly in the course of the tumultuous decade with over 300 campus chapters and 30,000 supporters recorded nationwide by its last national convention in 1969. The organization splintered at that convention amidst rivalry between factions seeking to impose national leadership and direction, and disputing “revolutionary” positions on, among other issues, the Vietnam War and Black Power.
A new national network for left-wing student organizing, also calling itself Students for a Democratic Society, was founded in 2006.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Students_for_a_Democratic_Society
I had this on my computer since 2008
The 3 stooges go to Washington. How much of it is true I am not sure, but there is a lot of dodgy stuff in BHO’s background. The author attempts to dissect these oddities.
http://www.whale.to/b/nicoloff_h.html
“The desire to be liberated from the constraints of Christianity was the original reason for modern liberalism’s embrace of a world defined entirely by materialism—the view that there are no immaterial entities like God of the soul, but only physical entities. This embrace of materialism began as far back as the Renaissance. And the same impulse was behind the nineteenth-century enthusiasm for scientific materialism, and it remains a staple of liberalism today.” (Benjamin Wiker “Worshipping the State: How Liberalism became Our State Religion)
The conscience and faculties of the human intellect have been corrupted since the fall and of necessity must be submitted to the higher things of God or fall into madness.
Russian philosopher Ivan V. Kireyevsky foresaw that sovereign reason would indeed fall into madness and unleash unceasing criticism of truth, morality, Revelation, prophecy, miracles, religion, and ultimately of reason itself. Thus, it would inevitably devour itself. (p. 537)
When the depraved conscience and corrupted human reason become the standard of truth and knowledge of right and wrong, as is the case throughout the West and America, its madness ultimately results in a theater of the absurd in which there is neither up nor down, male nor female, right nor wrong, true nor false, normal nor abnormal.
Of further consequence, our own depraved Deep State is owned by equally depraved and mad Globalists. They play the fiddle from hell. Our Deep State dances to the tune.
Agree with your analysis as to the government apparatus. But what about the media apparatus? there was no presidency to appoint radicals to media outlets. So how did the media apparatus change?
This began in the 1990’s with the radical left’s desire to destroy what Reagan left behind, and to install Communism at our highest levels. The corrupt Clinton Administration was the first hint of what was to come. Both Clintons were little more than political crooks, whose entire “governmental service” involved their own self enrichment. It was the the left’s first real foothold within the White House. Carter was an idiot and a horrible politician, but not an actual Communist!
Obama himself once spilled the beans. On 60 Minutes, he revealed that, soon after joining the Senate, Harry Reid summoned him. Reid said: “We want you to run for president.” Now WHO was the WE?