Lots of people are talking about U.S. FBI Director Christopher Wray discussing the agencies “partnership with the private sector” as it relates to modern FBI activity. However, I’m just that random oddball in the crowd who just wants to point out something, well, kind of a big picture issue.
I notice in all of the discussions surrounding the FBI activity, and there are a lot of discussions – including admissions and outlines from the FBI itself, there appears to be an element of the subject matter being overlooked. Here’s a segment from Wray at the World Economic Forum {Direct Rumble Link} as a precursor to what few are noticing. WATCH:
The FBI is a criminal investigative agency. Meaning, a crime is committed, and the FBI mission is to investigate it, solve it, and bring the information to the justice department for pursuit. At least that was the customary role of the FBI as it was/is commonly discussed.
However, please note that in Director Wray’s remarks, every element of the FBI mission is framed around “prevention” of criminal activity, or what we would call pre-crimes.
Stop for a moment and rewatch it if needed, you’ll see what I am talking about.
Um, please excuse my interruption.
While it might seem like an unusual thing to notice, this is not a small issue.
In the era following the 9-11 attacks, there was public outcry around the issue of “how” and “why” did law enforcement, specifically the FBI, not PREVENT the attack. In just about every conversation following the attack every framework was about how to prevent an attack.
The 9-11 commission itself was focused on learning lessons from the attack; thereby the direct and implicit message was to construct systems to prevent another attack from happening. Essentially to move the FBI from a reactive footing in the aftermath of a crime, to a proactive footing to prevent crime.
Now, what I am asking readers to do is to realize when the fundamental mission of an investigative agency changes from investigating the aftermath of criminal activity, to the prevention of criminal activity, we as a society open ourselves up to having severe restrictions on our liberty. After all, just about everything that we now see as an infringement on freedom, is some form of a proactive action by government.
Change the mission from the investigation of crime to the prevention of crime, and the entire apparatus of the mission fundamentally changes.
Criminals are no longer the target when you are preventing crimes. Criminals are only targets in the aftermath of crime. When you are preventing crime, everyone that could commit a crime is the new mission target. Everyone, regardless of their connection to – or association with – criminal activity, is now a potential criminal. Potential criminals must be monitored.
Potential criminals are now the target. You are a potential criminal. As a result of your potential ability, you are a target for pre-crime investigation. Within the process of pre-crime investigation, your archaic views of freedom and liberty are dispatched.
The office of the Director of National Intelligence was created to turn the terrorist radar internally. Every American is now a potential “domestic terrorist.” Thus, you see FBI Director Christopher Wray sitting on a stage and openly admitting the FBI partnerships with the private sector are key to the mission; a mission of pre-crime targeting.
Can you see how this rolls along?…
As soon as the FBI changes from investigating the aftermath of a crime committed to intercepting the potential criminal conduct, things get very opaque, sketchy and weird. When the FBI is investigating crimes, you have rights. When the FBI is preventing crimes, those rights are impediments.
Our entire legal system is structured around criminal accountability. An event takes place, and we hold the criminal accountable. Judges, lawyers, courts, systems, processes, protections, rights of the accused, fourth amendment, fifth amendment, etc. etc. Hundreds of years of rules and regulations within a criminal justice system.
We do not have a “pre-crime” justice system.
The current FBI mission is pre-crime enforcement.
Think about the ramifications; it shouldn’t be hard, because we are living them.
I will sit down now….
What the heck
is the Director of the FBI
of the USA
doing
at the
World ECONOMIC Forum?
“Minority Report” with Tom Cruise as the chief of the Department of “precrime”.
If the FBI is combating pre-criminal activities, how do you explain the FBI’s Ray Epps (and others) on January 6th, inciting Trump supporters to walk into the Capitol to protest Biden’s theft of the election?
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/05/watch-joe-rogan-jan-6-capitol-protest-fcking-fbi-agents-inciting-violence-people-fact-know/
Well, yeah
In that case, FBI wasn’t preventing crimes, FBI was fomenting/assisting and strategically planning crimes
Pull the money plug on the IC. How bad can your enemies be, given our IC?
So when they expect trouble at an event, like the J6 capital protest, then they secretly join in, using agents that will whip the crowds up in order to achieve their wanted outcome!
They had 80 agents censoring speech on social media.
Exactly what crime were they preventing?
Exactly what crime were they preventing?
conservatives being right
can’t allow that
The truth.
Free speech
Republicanism, Conservatism, and white maleism
For one, they are preventing themselves from being potentially charged with the crimes of conspiracy and racketeering. Arguably, the DoJ is now a continuing criminal organization, the very thing it once was supposed to fight. How’s that for “fundamental transformation?”
Wrongthink
Or possibly “right think” – IE Constitutional discussion, which clearly is an undesirable element in Socio-communist groups and individuals.
Wrong question – they wanted to use the information they were finding while censoring the opposition. 80 is a minuscule number out of the 20 agencies Biden noted in one of his rambles.
Dissent!
I am shocked that the Director of the FIB who has sworn an oath to defend the US Constitution is on record as saying he is participating in blocking speech within America by American citizens and our US House and Senate do NOTHING!
it seems like this would be possible grounds for impeachment at the least!
impeachment?
That would be a good first step.
It will just take enough members in the House and then the Senate that aren’t beholding to and can withstand whatever secret FBI files (regardless if they contain real or manufactured photos) the swamp has in order to stand in the full sunlight and impeach this (dirty word) character.
Set that precedent and maybe the rest will either fall in line, or be the next in line.
We need members of Congress to show us they too love America.
Really? No one should be shocked by anything these people do by now. I would be more shocked if they admitted that they looked at the Constitutional ramifications of doing what they admit to doing and decided that it was against the law and a possible abrogation of every citizens civil rights. That would shock me at this point about the FIB, Congress is merely window dressing, an opium den playing to the politically addicted.
It truly would Bogeyfree………..if, we had a functioning Republic.
Founding Fathers put their lives on the line for it. We’ve let pure evil destroy it in plain sight
That is always absent in a communist regeim.
This is the world we have been living in. One must change their thought process, this has been going on for years. No longer look from the perspective of “can we stop this from happening”, the real issue is can we prosecute those who have done this.
The rock has been thrown threw the window, the glass is now broke.
Nice. The “Broken Window theory”
Shocked! I tell ya!
Retired Magistrate here: I guess they only stop the pre crimes they want to stop. How many times was a perpetrator on their radar for years before the perpetrator committed a crime; however, oh no, the FBI couldn’t do anything because a crime had not been committed yet.
However, if you have “wrong thoughts or ideas” but don’t physically do anything criminal, you will be guilty of a “pre crime”. Look at the January 6 prisoners; most of them just took an invited tour (by the Capitol Police) and they ended up in jail with their constitutional rights stripped away.
The arrogance of these people is breath taking. However, pride and arrogance go before fall; maybe not in this life, but the next.
I find in the climate of get Trump, why anyone would step into government building to protest anything.
The founding fathers warned us not because they’re prescient, but because they were students of history.
So, how can we prevent the FBI’s pre-crimes?
delete history?
Kill it.
It never ceases to amaze me that all leftist government parasites point to the 911 disastrous attack and proclaim we should be looking at pre crime potential activity of individuals. Now it appears federal law enforcement pre crime focus is deliberately putting white People in the cross hairs for what amounts to petty misdemeanors at best but elevating any infraction to felony status!
Fact 17 of the 19 911 attackers were Saudi Arabian most in the US on false pretenses or expired visas while learning to stabilize and pilot airliners with zero intrest in takeoff or landing . No red flag no investigation no follow ups . But they know what somebody that waved a Trump Flag and wore a MAGA hat had for dinner the night of January 6 who they called from their hotel room etc…
So FBI head parasite WTF are you doing at a WEF meeting and who is paying for your trip to DAVOS !
You are not on our clock as American Citizens . You work for the American Public not the members of the WEF .
If you were invited let the WEF anti American Billionaires club pick up your tab
The 4 pilots were originally from Egypt, Lebanon, UAE and Saudi Arabia and had lived and trained in the US for some time. All the Saudi “muscle teams” came in essentially at the last minute not knowing they were on suicide missions.
Thank you!
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Crossfire Hurricane was one of their “pre-crime” operations I presume, enacted to prevent the crime of Donald Trump becoming president.
Except for kidnapping a Michigan Governor, it’s hard to convict somebody before a crime takes place. So if they can find out about some knuckle-heads talking bad, inject some CHS thugs, provide all the logistics, planning and encouragement; when the crime kinda of occurs, they can solve it very quickly, gain accolades, bigger budgets and undeserved reputations.
How many pre-crime traces of FBI knowledges have been disclosed in the last 20 years?
I don’t buy that, Grandpa. It is far too easy for them to convict anyone they please, of anything, at any time – pre-crime, mid-crime, post-crime, and indeed even no-crime. It is the process that is the punishment. The J6 Gulag is the most infamous example of this; innocent Americans rousted from their homes in the pre-dawn darkness, and thrown into cells to await the pleasure of the prosecutors, and the concoction of criminal charges. They have each and every one been preemptively captured and jailed, habeus corpus be damned, without knowledge of charges pending or recourse to legal representation.
I don’t see any evidence of it being hard to convict in the absence of a crime. As Lavrenty Beria infamously said, “Show me the man, and I’ll show you the crime”.. Three felonies a day, we have all, each of us, already been charged, tried, and convicted, and we now simply await our eventual arrests at their pleasure.
For some reason, I cannot play the video. I even rebooted. Is there a secret?
Sometimes an ad blocker on my phone will not allow certain videos to play.
This is the same mind set through out our government. It is the same arrogance the CDC & NIAID under the fraudulant Fauchi showed in thinking they can keep the American population safe from a flu virus. Unfortunately, the side affects from their actions are always worse than the disease they think they are curing.
The intention was not to keep us safe, their intention was to create a ‘drug’ dependency from the covid jabs shutting down the immune systems and the population would have a forever dependency on drugs. They also are in on shutting down the economy to dismantle the middle class. You give them far too noble an intent. They are not honorable people.
The FBLIE was bored doing domestic “stuff”; so they said, “Hey, DoD, you military contractors, don’t you think you should share all your neat toys with us? C’mon, we’re on the same side.”
It wasn’t enough to protect American citizens; they must now target them.
If you’re still listing FBLIE as your occupation, you really need to re-think remaining in an organization that I now consider a terrorist organization.
Well, since it’s obvious the FBI is about to commit several unlawful acts and violations of the Constitution, they must be disbanded before this can happen.
About to? They are, and have been for years now in the aftermath of 9/11 and with the passing of the Patriot Act.
Arguably one could make a case they have for many years even before that. Difference being is the scale after 9/11.
That was sarcasm IMHO
But, remember, Wray said that Antifa is just an idea. All that stupid in one face.
So well said!
They are building a protective wall around themselves. Americans are doing nothing about it.
Wray is glistening in that last photo. Is he sweating or is he covered in lip gloss?
Both? 🤣
Perhaps Wray’s got a WEF side hustle as a prostitute?
Who is the first speaker with the five rings on his left hand, worn like brass knuckles)?
Ann Coulter has a good article in Townhall. Concerning how advances in DNA can point to a criminal.
Wray’s pre crime isn’t about preventing crimes, evidence via Twitter files shows Wray’s efforts is about controlling speech.
I totally agree. I would often cringe when people complained loudly that certain terrorist or mass shootings weren’t averted beforehand. In a few cases, they are completely out of the blue and nothing can really be done without trampling our rights. However, if the focus was back on arresting criminals and not letting them out without bail, charging and convicting crimes, convicting visa overstays and enforcing immigration laws, a lot of these things could be prevented. I mean how many times have we heard a mass shooter did this or that but he just got out without bail or was given a light sentence for a previous violent crime or so and so overstayed their visa by ten years?
The context of the discussion is detecting and preventing cyber attacks. That world is preventing (usually through detection) attacks generated by ‘bots’. That is not the same as guessing state of mind related to physical crimes. The focus to watch is making sure they keep that distinction.
Sundance,
Respectfully, I would encourage you to email Crowder. Your efforts are a light in the darkness. If you had a Mug Club, everyone in my family would have one with a fancy treehouse logo on it. This is not an idle encouragement, it’s your next step.
Sundance, in this you cannot be more correct. A crime does not exist until it occurs. Truly, what is being described there is thoughtcrime.
Censorship and the Panty Raiders and C_A work within this country is against the law and our constitution.
All of these POS swear to swear an oath to do what ?
Our founders should have created a group that could not have been touched by any branch and then when we have people like Christopher (Made millions off Russians in his firm) would be instantly removed from earth along with many others.
pre-crimes = thought crimes.
And the foundation for thought crimes was established decades ago when somebody decided that “hate crimes” should be a thing: in other words, don’t simply punish people for what they did (the criminal act)–punish them for what they were thinking while they did it.
Excellent point Sharon. Your comment rings absolutely true. Hate crimes are thought crimes just as you stated.
How does a non biased jury except that a prosecutor can prove what a person was thinking when that person committed a crime.
So a murder is much worse because the person had hatred toward the person killed, and one step in the other direction, if there wasn’t hatred involved it is a lesser murder?
I agree, a crime is a crime is a crime. Crimes come with legal punishments. Why you commit the crime should really make no difference. If you assault someone, rob someone or kill someone, should it make a difference why you did it? I anger better than hate? Can anyone really know why you did it unless you tell them?
Those FBI boys were regular Eli Whitneys at crime prevention on Jan 6.
The federal agencies have all created their own language, as if that, along with their pathological lying, corruption & pure evil actually changes anything. The truth…………….is still the truth…………………
You had me at Chris Wray talks in Davos. Just sayin
I believe this has been the plan by the alphabet agencies or the 4th branch for a long time. Well before 911. Once I learned that John Brennan personally approved the Visa’s for the Saudi 911 terrorists and the agency paid for their housing I realized how long this has been in the works. Destroy the US Constitution and our rights. I wish I still had the links to this info but I don’t and it was from what I consider to be reliable sources. Doesn’t matter since this is our state today. The 4th branch creates crimes and prosecutes who they want. Laws be damned.
Something else that my coworker and I have been pondering lately. Have you ever wondered why we have never gone back to the moon since the 1960’s? It’s an interesting question. Kind of makes you wonder if the moon landing was real? Knowing what I know today about the deception of our government nothing is beyond their scope of deception.
Thet have already done testing in the U.S.
https://cpr.unu.edu/publications/articles/ai-global-governance-turning-the-tide-on-crime-with-predictive-policing.html
2019•02•26
Although no country has put in place a national predictive policing programme as of yet, predictive policing tools have been developed and deployed in several cities across the globe. For instance, in the United States, the company, Palantir, has developed and tested predictive policing tools in cities such as Chicago, Los Angeles, New Orleans and New York as far back as 2012. Another company, PredPol, has also developed a predictive policing tool that has been deployed in approximately 40 agencies across the United States since 2012. Outside the US, police departments in countries such as China, Denmark, Germany, India, the Netherlands, and the United Kingdom are reported to have tested or deployed predictive policing tools on a local level. Japan has also announced its intention to put a national predictive policing system in place in the run-up to the 2020 Tokyo Olympics and a predictive policing programme was recently approved in the United Kingdom that could be rolled out to all national police forces in the near future. This list is certainly not exhaustive and is likely to grow as AI becomes more advanced and law enforcement becomes more familiar with its potential.
Who is the dude with all the rings that handily wants to accentuate his jewelry and his double pierced ears?? Are we watching a group of pseudo professionals who feel entitled to world domination… or are we watching a “Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome” movie? Has anyone honed in on the picture yet to see what sort of satanic symbolism he’s touting?
Get these clowns outta here!!!! They don’t represent me.
They sure are brazenly open about their Communist takeover.
First, Wray hasn’t the mental aptitude to put something like that together.
It does not mean he has no help.
Second, there went “innocent until proven guilty”.
Pasco County FL reportedly already tried this on children.
Predictive policing.
Changing futures one algorthmic prediction at a time. Right or wrong.
Quit feeding their algorithms. Just say NO to data collection and apps in schools.
Do not tell me WEF plans are DOA in FL, especially in education.
https://projects.tampabay.com/projects/2020/investigations/police-pasco-sheriff-targeted/intelligence-led-policing/
Florida. 🤔 Isn’t that where DiSantis is governor?
Just the fact that he is comingling with the WEF means he’s not trustworthy.
Anyone and everyone with half a brain would detangle themselves from the WEF.
They are a sinister lot.
Obviously preventing crimes can easily slop over to encouraging crimes when they can use “informants” to infiltrate groups and/or events to facilitate crimes they want committed to meet a political agenda. It’s the same old show me the man and I’ll show you the crime.
Scary part is that 90plus percent of Congress would listen to that discussion and support it 100%.
History sure does rhyme.
Does the movie “Minority Report” ring a bell?
We are close to “1984 Meets Minority Report”
Calling Tom Cruise!
Never saw it, and by so many people saying “Minority Report” in the comments, am glad that was one movie missed. It sounds frightening.
Orwell and Huxley could have not done any better in predicting it.
The drone voice of a 95 IQ Company Yes Man that has risen to the level of his imcompetence – I fully expected him ot stand up and excuse himself because he had a plane to catch.
These jackals need to be hounded and hunted down in the streets of their subdivisions. They are not dying suddenly enough, they need to be helped along.
We are not giving credit
to FBI Director Wray for his establishment of the FBI’s new Terrorist Watch-This List!
What the hell is the fbi director doing there?
Networking for next job; setting up his kids and friends with contacts; free trip to Switzerland; a little tail on the side (with any luck/money) virtue signaling to the important people; carrying the FIB flag; showing people he is a player; skiing; getting out of US where no one likes or respects him; being his unimpressive self
Just like in the movie “Minority Report”. Art imitating life!
WEF & all the involved countries & corporations are apparently only really concerned with controlling us by any means.
Oh so Minority Report?
Chris Wray is long past pre-criminal behavior.
this is part of the the foundation upon which Nazi Germany rose to power, along with Godlessness… when truth to power is silenced through fascism, the only appropriate response is revolution.