I am bumping this post to the top of the page and updating because, well, I’ll explain.
First, thank you. Sincere and genuine thankfulness for your fellowship. Visitors to this site continue to prove that our nation is created by, and an assembly of, the most decent, honest, generous and kind-hearted people in the world. The responses to the question of ‘why didn’t you take the covid-19 shot?’ are nothing short of remarkable.
In the bigger picture if you want to fill up your faith cup and recognize the scale of commonsense assembly in our nation, take the time to read through the 2,000+ responses.
The feedback you are providing is exceptional and trust me when I say that far more people are reading these responses than you could fathom. Additionally, the responses have reasserted my belief in the scale of our national assembly. There are far more of us, ordinary, hardworking, commonsense, pragmatic and smart people, than the self-described intellectual elites would ever admit.
In addition to the responses below, there have been hundreds of emails answering the question, which suddenly made me realize that no one has really ever asked this question before in a format that provides ordinary people with the ability to respond.
There is also a yearning to talk about this issue, publicly and with deliberation; massively so. And I am hopeful (insert grin here) this small corner of the internet is about to push this conversation into a much larger national forum. Our nation needs a big conversation about this.
If I had to pick a single phrase to encapsulate the myriad of phenomenal responses to the question I would use the phrase, “intellectual discernment”; which again provides buckets of faith that a large number of people are wide awake, albeit part of what I call a potato revolution growing safely underground.
Also, unbeknownst to front page readers I am stunned at the people in/around operation warp-speed, these are people in government directly attached to the issue, who have contacted CTH on the backside, stepped forward and said they also didn’t take the shot because, well, despite their belief in the purpose and principle at the time, things were just not adding up and ultimately seemed sketchy. They couldn’t talk (so they felt), couldn’t even hint at their concern; but when it came to making the personal decision, they waited.
I also owe it to you to answer the question of my own status, which is a big heck no – I did not take the jab.
Why? Because in the preceding years of all my research into the rapidly exposed corruption of our government, there was just no way in hell I was going to trust that same system. A system that literally was working outside the constitution and legal framework of our nation to destroy a sitting U.S. President is going to suddenly care about my health. Nope, it did not align. I also looked at the datapoint of the U.S.S. Comfort delivered to New York City under the grandest of media proclamations about impending medical doom, only to see the ship sit empty and completely unused despite the scale of the narrative that surround its purpose.
Lastly, and more obliquely, the datapoint of one of my heroes Franklin Graham assembling a NY field hospital to serve over 20,000 patients; another massive endeavor that sat empty and without use. However, prior to the hindsight, it was the in-real-time fight from officials in/around the area who tried to block Samaritans Purse from setting up the facility. If the SARS-CoV-2 issue was as great a threat as declared, then why would anyone fight to keep out a field hospital that could provide such relief. It just didn’t make sense.
Those issues, and others, formed the baseline of my inability to reconcile the key issue of ‘trust’ needed to believe in the vaccine. Additionally, I am healthy and not within any of the risk factors. However, I also feel strongly that each health decision is unique to the individual person, and everyone was making the best decisions for them based on the available information at the time; so, I carry no judgement for those who made a different choice.
As noted, I am bumping this to the top of the site so that our conversation can continue. Normally I would start a new thread, but this one is different. I don’t want to break the continuity and I want to provide everyone the ability to see they are not alone.
Love to all,
Sundance
Reader feedback request.
I was quite shocked to review a poll I took on the Twitter last month showing that 85% of the people who follow the CTH Twitter account [TLR2] did not take the COVID-19 jab.
Without any judgement implied or inferred I am genuinely curious, why not?
With the situation clearly in hindsight, and/or given all the pressure that may have been applied to each individual situation, I am genuinely curious what was it that made you choose not to take the COVID-19 vaccination.
If you are comfortable, and please understand that no pressure is intended in any way whatsoever, could you share why you didn’t take the vaccine and how do you feel about that decision in hindsight?
If you did take the vaccination, there is also no judgement in this question. As I said back in 2021 each individual is unique, each situation is unique, and each person has to make the best decision about what is in their individual best interests. So please, don’t let this issue divide our conversation.
I am genuinely curious as to the reason so many people would withstand the public and perhaps peer pressure to follow the ‘vaccination’ advice. Also, how has that decision impacted your life? Did you lose friends and family over your personal health decision? Did those relationships heal over time? Or anything else you might find pertinent to the general question.

Early reporting from ZH on the HIV transcripts discovered in the virus and an assessment that in over 5000 years we would never see a coronavirus mutate to the 19 form was very convincing to me that it was man made before any of the Eco Health / Fauci funding was known. The assessment that the spike protein was manmade and the antigen along with the design of the MRNA (MRNA in and of itself technically not bad) COV19 vax that causes your body to produce the exact spike protein from the virus in a potentially massive quantity, and potentially indefinitely if DNA is altered, along with the expectation that your own immune system would then respond and attack your own cells with the spike protein protruding, and the potential for autoimmune problems made me very wary and initially a hard, wait and see how this goes. As efficacy faded from the Alpha version during Delta worse with Omicron after and adverse reactions started to rise dramatically I became a hard no.
I had to join a lawsuit to protect from potential job loss that is ongoing, and family would not agree to meet for holidays unless vaxed. The most difficult thing was, and perhaps still is, that you care for your family and friends that decided to vax a you genuinely want to protect them, and they take your attempts to inform them as political and are unwilling to do any critical thinking or even listen or discuss the matter. The other factor now is that they are already potentially affected and they cannot undo what has been done, so even if you are trying to explain that spike protein exposure is a cumulative thing and they should not take any boosters, the discussion is taken as “why are you telling me this, I already took them, lets not talk about it anymore”. There has to be a way to detect these clots now before people drop dead so they can get treatments. Same with myocarditis, which I am willing to bet many more people have with lower levels of damage today, but the will be causing problems in the not too distant future and over time that may or may not be able to be treated.
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Also, I prepared for the high probability of getting COVID by having all of the items in the AFLDS protocols including Ivermectin. I had respect for the potential dangers of getting it, and had a treatment plan ready to go, which I did eventually use when I got the initial Omicron version which was not more than a 3 day very mild event with the treatment.
Tests for all who took the shots:
Troponin levels. (Cardiac damage)
D-dimer. (Clots)
Other suggestions?
I have heard of D-dimer for clots, but can it detect these protein based fibrin described clots that the morticians etc. are finding?
Idk if applicable… but antibodies bind to proteins, which in turn bind to phospholipids.
Some of these proteins are:
Beta-2 glycoprotein 1 prothrombin
I’d also suggest…
> PLT (Platelet count)
> PT/INR (Prothrombin Time) how many seconds it takes for blood to clot
> PTT (Partial PT)
> aCL (Anticardiolipin test)
> LA (Lupus* Anticoagulant)
*confusingly named. Looks for antibody which interferes with clotting.
I think I read some of the same materials at Zero Hedge. I referred to that info in my comment at 1:08 am.
I received a religious exemption because early on–when I still believed the COVID mRNA injection was likely effective and safe–it was already well known that human fetal cell lines were utilized in research and/or manufacture. Additionally, I contracted the virus December 2020 and had no reason to believe I wasn’t already immune.
Those reasons remain valid.
However, the suspicion for me really began in earnest when I saw public health organizations giving their blessings to BLM protests when my friend wasn’t permitted to visit her demented father. This made no sense. Besides this, the pressure I and others faced to be injected even after having contracted the illness–the dismissal of the possibility of natural immunity–made me realize something else was afoot, something more important to those in power than my health.
Now, with all we have learned about the poor quality of the initial data, the attempts to deceive, the subsequent gaslighting, I have ample reason to refuse even apart from the natural immunity I have and the unethical use of fetal cell lines.
I lost my blind trust and loyalty to the medical community long before I lost it for the government. I don’t do flu shots and have taken the holistic path for decades. The More either of those entities want me to do something, the Less I’m inclined to do it. My BS meter is strong along with my spirit of Discernment, and it went off the charts during the COVID orchestrated fear and chaos campaign.
My husband was diagnosed with stage 4 prostate cancer in December of 2020. One of our sons works for a hospital and was in charge of keeping the vaccines at subzero temperatures. Thank God we stood firm and refused to get the jab; we truly believe that my husband would not still be here if we had yielded to the pressure.
My father was put on home hospice in November 2020. All medications were stopped- diabetes, high blood pressure, no meds for prostate cancer-not considered an issue at that time-88yrs old. He did not eat solid food for about four weeks, only drank liquid, mostly orange juice, cranberry juice and sometimes a protein shake. He started to eat some solid foods shortly before Christmas, regained his appetite and was removed from home hospice in late January ‘21.
He went to see the doctor first week of February. Blood pressure normal. Diabetes gone. Had Covid two days later. Like any flu, tired, no appetite, slight fever. He was over it shortly. We all caught it-sons helping care for him, gave it to our families. Nobody went to ER, including our mother who was to have heart surgery but couldn’t because hospitals were delaying procedures. Doctors kept pushing that the immunity would wear off, and in-spite of my adamant opposition to getting vaccinated took my father and both were vaccinated in late summer 2021. She had her surgery. Covid came around and we got it again in June ‘22, much milder symptoms for all, vaxxed and not. Dad died from prostate cancer in November.
I have to wonder what part if any the vaccine played, all of a sudden his #s shot up and x-rays showed lesions on pelvic bones. I won’t lay the guilt on Mom-she listened to their
doctors. We were blessed to have him with us two extra years.
I had SOMEWHAT considered it (not really, because I knew I had a 100% chance of being able to avoid injection side effects by not accepting an injection and an uncertain chance of avoiding Covid – and I still haven’t come down with it) once the FDA (supposedly) granted full approval. When the FDA advanced the approval process by two weeks, I concluded they were not to be trusted and found confirmation of that from pre-Covid days. Just as other people don’t understand why some of us are vaccine hesitant, I don’t understand why anyone would trust an entity that rewrites the rules mid-game.
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I’m 59 years old and always been very healthy. My immune system has always worked well for me, and I so rarely get sick, it’s hard to remember the instances I have. I never got those regular annual flu shots pharmacies peddle every year. So when all this started, it didn’t seem to be such a big deal since the reported symptoms were “flu like”. I had faith in my immune system.
Then came the masks and I rebelled and thought “Oh no, not a chance I’m living like this. This is ridiculous.”
As far as I can tell, every member of my family (none of which live with me) did get the shots and they are horrified (still are to this day, every last one of them are MSM faithful) I didn’t and won’t. They hassled me endlessly about it. There have been times when the stress of that led me to think about getting the shot but then I come to my senses and didn’t.
Some family members won’t talk to me anymore. Some won’t come visit me anymore. Most of my friends did not get it. A few did but because they had to in order to keep their jobs, or because a spouse was older and insisted. None of them pushed me aside, in fact they all were very supportive of me making my own decision. They helped me keep my sanity through it all. I was a lucky one that works from home so did not have a forced mandate, and no one who lives with me that also might have required me to get it because of their requirements.
Not a single person who has harassed me in the past to get it (my mother, my college-age daughter, my ex-husband) has admitted there might be a problem now and apologized. I’m not sure they do realize how bad things are, as the only “news” any of them consume is MSM such as msnbc. If I tried to show them studies and articles explaining my reasons for not getting it, they just rejected that as fake news and wouldn’t even read them. They told me I was the brainwashed one and they still think it.
The ultimate irony is that so many people I know keep “getting Covid” over and over again – the boosted people! Even my daughter accidentally said to me once, “I just don’t understand it. So-and-so had their shots and boosters and they keep getting Covid!” And when I said, “And go figure, I didn’t get the shots and I never got it once!” And she got angry and defensive and said it was only because I live in a rural area and “never see anybody” (which is not true about never seeing anyone).
I do not regret not getting any of the shots. I have not been sick. I have not even used any of those Covid tests. Why should I if I’m not sick?
The only thing different I’ve done is make sure I include zinc and upped my dose of Vitamin C in my daily vitamin routine.
Now that so many stories of healthy young people dying of heart issues are coming out, I pray my daughter escapes that, but I also worry that if she ever accepts the truth, she’ll spend her life worrying she’ll drop any day. It’s a very messy situation and I know I’m not the only one in conflict with loved ones. It’s an awful situation.
My immunologist husband said none of this covid stuff made sense. You never vaccinate into a pandemic, and it wasn’t a vaccine anyway. MRNA has never worked against corona virus which has been around for hundreds of years and will be around for hundreds more. It constantly mutates. You do not reach herd immunity through vaccines but rather through natural infection. If you have had covid there is no need for a ‘vaccine’. We were able to think for ourselves, analyze what we were being told was true and ended up doing the opposite of what was recommended. There are a lot of doctors in our family and we both lost a lot of respect for the medical community. Doctors in our family were actually telling us that if we don’t get vaxed we could kill people. We were not invited to weddings and other family events. The pressure was ridiculous. We still don’t talk to many of them. But we are glad we did what we did. Some of them have had very bad reactions to the vax.
I listened to the medical professionals that put their careers on the line with everything to lose rather than those with nothing to lose. Sadly, daily events continue to show who was correct.
Any medical tyranny in favor of the murder of an innocent baby yet in the Mothers womb deserves not my faith and trust .
I don’t trust the gubmint.
Haven’t trusted the Medical profession, for many years.
Mind you, there ARE “Good people” working in the Medical profession, but the SYSTEM is inherently and totally corrupted, and has been for many, many years.
Haven’t ever had a flu shot, and haven’t had the flu, since childhood.
Heard about HCQ, BEFORE PDJT first mentioned it, from my libtard sister.
She and her hubby had two couples, all Drs, over fro dinner and Covid was JUST hitting the news.
These 4 Drs. told her all the Drs were writing Rx’s for each other, for HCQ, to take proflyactically (preventative) and to have on hand, if they got it, for they and their families.
So, I read the research, and ordered some from India, and was waiting for it to clear customs, when PDJT first spoke about it.
About a year later, I got an infection, pretty sure it was COVID, took HCQ, Zink, Vit. D and Melatonin, and it cleared up in about 3 days.
Point being, ALL the Drs KNEW about HCQ and IVERMECTIN, all they had to do was type COVID into Pubmed, same as I did.
AND, they were making sure THEY had some “on hand” for them and their families, just as they know, absolutely just how useless those masks are, that they insist you wear to their office.
The whole profession, like so many, is utterly corrupt.
Be your own Dr, you really couldn’t do any worse than what THEY do.
I did not trust it, and did not trust the narratives being pushed about it. It was untested, and rushed, whereas vaccines are normally tested for years. I did not see that there was any emergency, anymore than when the CDC pushed the last “pandemic” which was a joke. They operate in a manner to increase their importance in the public’s eye more than anything, not for the public wellfare. So, no, not trustable. And I do not get an annual flu shot either.
Late 2020 I was desperate to walk the Camino de Santiago once more. I knew I had to be vaccinated to fly to Europe so I set a deadline to decide. Over the months I kept reading about the so called “vaccine” and finally decided the Camino will have to wait. I’m now ready for a long walk, unvaccinated.
I didn’t like it being used politically.
CTH has been my daily first stop for years along with other like minded blogs. So as things developed so did my homework with the right people. Saw how the wrong people were doing the wrong people things.
The numbers didn’t add up. Survival rates were over 99% without the co-morbidities. I’m 68 husband 72 now. Healthy pretty much, if we got c19 we would do fine. Plus I have a barn full of horse paste. My DH has prostate cancer just hiding out not being a problem. I have a precancer to watch. So that to me was a huge contraindication to the propaganda push by those who hate us.
I read what I could find and shared it with my DH, he was anxious, told him to make his choice but I wasn’t going to get the vax. And also by the way I refused to live in fear.
I checked with our MD on his stance for alternative treatment. He drank the corporate coolaid with a no to ivermectin and hydroxy. Wasn’t a problem we had our protocols if needed.
We did get c19 November 2021. We were sick but took the protocol laid out by FLCCC doctors. Including ivermectin. Ran the course and were fine. God is good.
A final note, my DH was diagnosed with Parkinson’s summer 2022. So he had had it brewing for not sure how many years prior. The jab would not have played well with that situation. He could’ve been rapidly in bad shape. Thank you all out there who are putting out the truth where we will find it and fight back and support each other and truth!
Just told inquiring minds that we weren’t ready to get jabbed yet. That was it.
I didn’t take for many reasons…researched the vaccine content; my dr. told me to research dr. Fauci and what he did during the aid vaccine, etc. Saw videos of the NWO who stated that they were making a virus, etc. to eliminate the population and injection…etc. So much more..and for sure…God’s protection and prayer.
I heard they used aborted baby fetal cells to test their new vaccine, I watched a grandmother cry behind plexiglass in a nursing home because she couldn’t touch her son’s hand, I saw friends shunning each other in abject fear and the closing of my Roman Catholic church and Realized the world had gone mad ! We must always question authority.
Early on in 2020 once the US government declared natural immunity for those who’d had COVID19 to be an irrelevant reason to not get jabbed, one would have to be genuinely naive to believe anything they said after that. There were PLENTY of articles, for anyone who cared to look, about how sketchy the new MRNA technology was, (including from the man who invented it, despite all the efforts to censor him) and the failure of the Pharma companies to do proper clinical trials before unleashing these products. Essentially they harnessed the CDC to force the citizenry to be their Phase 3 clinical trial subjects after the preliminary research they did that killed almost all of the animals they tested. And they were given immunity from all liability. Did anyone else see any RED FLAGS? One would have to be a fool to believe there was no foul play at foot with the way they were pushing these products on us. All while they were censoring the information coming from other countries and renowned doctors in the field who had success with simple remedies like Ivermectin and Hydroxycloroquine. The FDA has long been a corrupt, compromised agency that DOES NOT protect public health. Just look at the event several years ago with all the recalls that the rest of the Western world had on Chinese milk products (because of the milk that poisoned babies and pets that turned out to contain plastics used in making shelving to bulk it up to make a few extra yen). But the FDA stood out alone in the Western world for not banning Chinese milk products from coming into the US. They lost their credibility long ago.
Gut instinct about the timing of the pandemic followed by the rapid roll out of the shot was enough to make this household say “no way”. There was something nefarious about the whole situation and we, at times, felt we were living in an episode of the Twilight Zone: drive-thru (inaccurate) covid tests, drive-thru mRNA technology shots, rinse, repeat. A great many of our friends and neighbors took the jab and subsequent boosters because they want to travel. We keep our mouths closed, especially when they complain of health issues that have appeared, seemingly out of nowhere. My parents taught me to always think for myself and never follow the crowd, evidently my sisters missed that lecture. They bought into the propaganda and are now paying the price, physically. As my son so often says “One of these mornings, I just want to wake up and find it was all a bad dream” – I hazard a guess a good percentage of this country feels the same way.
I didn’t get jabbed, I’ve never taken a pcr covid test nor have I ever had a flu shot. I am 62 and tremendously blessed to have a husband, most of my family and a circle friends that are like minded. We have tried to read and research and share info to keep each other informed. There were more reasons not to take it that there were reasons to and I didn’t have the pressure to do so from a job or from family or friends.
In Jan. 20′ I moved my 84 yr old Mom who has dementia into a memory care facility. Against my written directive they jabbed her anyway in Feb 20′. She suffered adverse reaction (heart) immediately and was hospitalized. She had to get a blood transfusion and I think that may be what saved her. Needless to say, I moved her to another facility and she is doing ok.
Husband attended a wedding in another state in April 22′ and came home sick…I got whatever it was he had about a week later. We were both down a solid week each. We took ivermectin, quercetin,
D3, K2,zinc and lots of C. Never tested or went to dr. so assume it was some sort of flu. But heard that all 50 attendees were sick as well. Guess it was one of those ‘super spreader’ events we heard so much about.
Virtually everyone I know has had ‘it’ or some sort of flu and two close friends were hospitalized but none have died from ‘it’. Tho’ on Christmas day I lost a 37 yr old fully jabbed and double boosted nephew to (sudden onset) cancer. His dr.’s said it was metastatic melanoma. It consumed him. Also lost my 63 yr old double vaxxed sister-in-law last August…just dropped dead one day. Kentucky Coroner refused an autopsy. And June 20′ lost Step-Dad (in AZ nursing home) from remdisivir and ventilator. The facility he was in was taking in covid patients from full hospitals, he supposedly got it and the protocol killed him.
I pray constantly for those victimized by this horror and I pray that someday I can forgive those that have perpetrated it against us all.
Govt and Big Medicine lost all credibility at various stages before and during pandemic.
US and Chinese government are contributory and probably causal factors to C19.
Censorship on HCQ, zinc, IVM, vitD3 and IV C all showed they did not want generic answers.
Development skips and misbehavior were numerous.
On the ground incidents in small social contact spaces showed severe reactions in 2021 – where the first one is free as “bad luck”, second “one in a million” (or even 1000), means Run away.
I have a research and ChBE engineering background including biolab startup 40+ years ago.
Husband and I are retired, both of us have two hard science degrees, he has two more in education and I a third in agricultural education. I knew of Fauci ‘s past “difficulties,” particularly concerning HIV/AIDs. Everything that Fauci and the CDC were pushing out the gate was contrary to everything I knew through my agri science education and experience in the field. I was highly skeptical of masks, particularly the wimpy ones still worn today, but I did make many homemade ones and handed them out at the beginning because so many of the residents in the communities I frequented were so afraid (thank you FAKE news), the masks gave them some peace. My ag background had given me decades of experience with ivermectin, and although I didn’t know off hand why it would possibly be effective (until my research of articles showed it to be a protease inhibitor – the puzzle pieces were coming together at that time including the effectiveness of hydroxychlorine), I definitely knew of ivermectrin’s safety in general use and as also an anti malarial in the case of humans. So when ivermectrin was besmirched by government officials and withheld from use and availability when possible by our health systems, my BS meter was permenently set off. Something that has permanently made me livid is calling the covid injection as a vaccine – it is not a “vaccine!” Regardless of the digital dictionaries changing the definition of “vaccine!”
The whole think was sketchy as hell from the get-go. New tech that never worked before. A “fast” vax for a type of virus they’d never been successful with. Globalist + Big Pharma + over-the-top publicity. Heavy-handed mandates from devout leftists. Hiding real data. Censoring treatments and working doctors. Lightspeed approval. Everything about was setting off alarms, so much I started using the term “evil” in the biblical sense for the first time… and meaning it. It wasn’t like I was literally having visions or cold chills of a demon’s presence, but it was evil. It was what made me start going to Church for the first time, been going ever since. I was in a job (teacher) in a state that had a mandate, and I put in for an exemption. Haven’t worked since (wife’s religious exemption was approved).
Prior to this Covid19 situation I had never taken a seasonal flue shot. Always let the body take care of things on its own and had a lifelong history of good results doing it that way. If I ever did get the flue it always passed through with predictable effects in five days as a minor affliction.
Just prior to the Covid outbreak I was diagnosed with cancer, and was fully committed to a treatment plan before any of the “shots” became available. My treatment plan involves experimental treatments. They’ve been shown to work, but more research was needed so I agreed to participate in the research trials. So far, so good, things are working out substantially better than if no treatment at all. The -19 shots are not proven, they are still an experimental treatment approved for emergency use in this new health crisis. I was not willing to place a new experimental treatment on top of an experimental treatment that was showing positive results. To risky for me. Nobody, not even the smartest politicians in the land could tell me with demonstrable proof how these two treatment plans would interact. The oncologists agreed with my logic and never again asked me about my “vaccination status”.
I had, years prior, been fully vaccinated with all the other common, and proven vaccines that have been around for many decades, so I would never consider myself an anti-vaccine person. This -19 one just wasn’t appropriate for me at the time. Looking back now as more and more information is coming out about problems with the shots I’m glad I went with my original gut feeling that these -19 shots are best avoided.
My wife and I listened to Fauci saying it was just a flu like virus and there was no need for masks. Ok no worries. Then we watched the ensuing panic but did not worry. Neither of us had ever had regular flu so we were alarmed but not overly so. Then we saw the demonization of Hydroxy. That was the wake up for us. We had been to Kenya in 2018 were stunned thinking well hell everyone takes that(turns out we took the other one but you see my point). They call it Sunday Sunday over there because they take it every week. That is when we started looking at alternative opinions. Not surprisingly one of the points you emphasized really woke us up when you pointed out that the grocery store workers were not dropping like flies. I researched those warning about the dangers and we were a hard no. My brothers and children are purebloods too. One thing I think you will appreciate is that I NEVER wore a mask anywhere. Knowing it was pointless and dangerous I simply refused and other than the occasional look did not get any pushback. I do live in Atlanta and there are a fair number of plonkers who do put on a face thong but I laughed my way through the whole thing. Even did it for jury duty. We had a number of people pushing the vax on us but we used facts over feelings in every discussion. We were kind as you advised but held our ground. Not a word from those we advised not to get it. Almost all of them have gotten covid post vax. Read the Fauci book by Kennedy. He may be a lib but wholly crap he brought the receipts on that one. It is terrifying. Would love to buy you a drink some day. I learn a lot from CTH but would really enjoy some intellectual discourse.
Antecedent skepticism about shots due to personal experience combined with concluding C-19 was an overblown scam by Easter 2020.
The shot skepticism came after landing in the hospital well before Covid with a lot of pressure to get a flu shot. Hospital policy was to try and give one to everyone who came in, and that seemed totally insane given shots lower immune defense in the short term, not a great thing in an environment crawling with sick people. At least 10x time and effort was spent on flu shot salesmanship than looking at the bleeding head wound (pretty sure undiagnosed concussion). Felt very crappy after that one, and when the next tetanus shot the next year also had a bad reaction, I was done.
Hard to say how I got deeply skeptical of C-19 so early. Ann Barnhardt and Vox Day were probably the two most prominent voices in my feed at the time poking holes in the narrative.
I was never against the vaccine initially – I just did my own research and was not that concerned about COVID all in all. I did a lot of reading and followed a lot of doctors in the beginning before they got banned off social media – I felt that – it was just more logical to follow a natural protocol ( natural immunity) I knew something was up in regards to the vaccine when I watched the narrative go from “your choice to bribery to force”and “from we are all in this together – – to don’t allow the unvaccinated in a hospital- they deserve to die” – it just reinforced that there was something wrong.
I spent months in constant fear of losing my job for refusing to get vaccinated- I would lay awake every night – and think what am I going to do? My husband – fortunately worked for a small private business who stood up immediately and said they would leave it up to each person to decide. My oldest son took the vaccine and it caused a lot of tension within our family – he truly believed that it would work and I had to accept his decision. My middle son had just got promoted to 1st Lt in the Marines and he had no choice – it was the shot or the end of his military career. That was hard on all of us to accept. When it came to my daughter- she had to leave the state to go to a college that allowed for exemptions – it was either move away or drop out of college her junior year, so she left.
My employer did everything in its power to promote the vaccine – it finally came down to either get the shot or be tested every week to keep your job. I relented to the testing and subjected myself to the swab twice a week for over a year. Out of a team of 100 – there was only 10 of us that did not get vaccinated.
The constant nonstop vilifying of my choice to not get vaccinated actually enforced my resolve to not do it.
As time has gone on and more information has come to pass and virtually everything I knew to be true has been proven – I thank GOD everyday I didn’t give in and I pray my boys will be okay in the long run.
My hubby(56), myself(54), our son (21) …all had c19 Early Dec 2021 so No way were we getting any shots to destroy our natural immunity….hubby and I also had the monoclonal antibodies (he felt immediately better once given the IV, I don’t think I really needed them but took them because I had read numerous research papers about how they enhance immunity from whatever you’re taking them for and there are little to NO side effects.. as a side note they can be given as a pretreatment and have been shown to stop transmission of the virus but follow the money, they must not have paid Fauci and friends enough kickbacks so they were barely talked about) . Our 31 yr old daughter (and elementary teacher) said no way was she getting it but her 34 yo hubby got one shot because he thought for sure it’d be required (it never was) at the school he teaches at (hoping it doesn’t affect fertility as he and our dtr want to start a family soon)… And our oldest daughter did get it because she is military but she is done with the whole mask/vaccination be… She’s had c19 2x btw… While we are still feeling fine with our natural immunity. My 80 yo mom got the vax against my wishes, and she now has “parkinsonism” ….not parkinson’s…. Just symptoms that “mimic” it per the neurologist…..I have NO doubt that it’s from the vax but I’m the crazy one for thinking its linked…..plus I’m the one who has to care for her… Very maddening 🤬
I will not live in fear. It was obvious from day one—when the words “flatten the curve” were being spewed, prior to the jab—that it was nothing more than political BS—fear and control. My immune system and I have an understanding—we take good care of each other. We all have an expiration date. If I get sick, so be it—and I did. I left my job rather than diaper up, and I certainly wasn’t willing to become a human guinea pig. My why-not list is long. This is the Cliff Notes version.
I found out very early on that the mRNA drug had the DNA of animals and in some cases the DNA of reptiles in it. According to the Holy Scriptures were are not permitted to take the blood of animals (let alone reptiles) into our systems. DNA comes from blood and it is one of the components that God is protecting us from in the blood of lower creatures. God tells us that if we injest their blood we are united with their lives, defiling ourselves. If drinking blood is taboo, then taking a shot in which the very aspect of the blood which makes it forbidden, is extracted is as forbidden. This is also echoed in the New Testament Act chapter 15. The Apostles write a letter to all the churches and tell them to observe the blood laws.
I gave excuses to friends and family when they pressured me, that my recent bout with cancer gave me caution and how I did not want to take an experimental drug because I was just over that horrible illness. The reality is that I did not really know what to do, so I listened to Moses who has yet to let me down. I made it clear to everyone that my main motivation for not taking this shot was faith, even though people seem to feel they can trample all over you when you use your faith to determine your decisions in life. Which is odd because that is what our faith with God is all about; making decisions based on what he says even when it looks ridiculous and the entire world does otherwise. The Bible is filled with examples of people who were called by God to stand against the crazy crowd. In some cases those called by God were put into terrible situations all because they put his word as the governor of their life. If you suffer or lose your life for putting God’s word first in your life then you die the nobalist of all deaths. I am not sorry that I followed the blood laws of the Holy Bible like instructed by Moses and the Apostles. I am only sorry more people did not listen to their faith instead of trusting people who ultimately proved to be untrustworthy.
I spent 4 years in college studying biology, including genetics. The only difference between the basic biology course and the premed course was a math course (our math course was higher than the premed math course).
I learned a lot but sadly, did not graduate because I fell in love with a woman and paid too much attention to her (and after we got married she turned out to be a progressive demonrat, which she had hidden from me. We ended up getting divorced- not only did she destroy my life, but also that of our children and grandchildren. A demonic narcissist who only cares about herself.)
It was obvious to me the from the beginning the whole Covid thing was STAGED. Like when China banned all flights from Wuhan to other parts of China, but did not ban any international flights to or from Wuhan. It was obvious Covid was released on purpose in Wuhan and spread throughout the planet on purpose.
Because of my biology and genetics training I knew the so-called vaccine was not a true vaccine. It was designed to mess with your genes. Also saw that the MANDATES were being pushed by the demonrats and DR. Fakesi (the average doctor has a lot more experience and knowledge than him, he went into BIG PHARMA soon after graduating from med school.) and the NWO by using its WHO branch.
And the NWO demonrats were blaming all deaths on Covid (acting like deaths FROM Covid or WITH Covid were the same thing.) Even a guy who died from a lightning strike close to where I live- after he died they said he had tested positive for Covid, so they blamed his death on Covid, not on the lightning strike.
It was obvious to me the whole Covid thing was a NWO mind control thing. Then I also found out the actual death rate from Covid was tiny, so no fake vaccine for me. No NWO control of my mind or body. No jab or muzzle.
Then I found out the jab was poisonous and verified it does not work as a vaccine. And natural immunity is better. The first hint- a perfectly healthy woman at my apartment complex died within two weeks of taking the jab. Blood clots. Then my son (non jabbed) supposedly got Covid, and I (non jabbed) was isolated with him for 2 weeks. He recovered ok, and I did not get Covid. Then several people at work who had taken the jab and wore the muzzles, and had other health issues died and of course their deaths were all blamed on Covid, not on the fake vaccine or their other health issues. So I pointed out to people, “If the jabs and the muzzles work, how did they catch Covid? That proves that the so called Covid vaccines do not work, and may even be poisonous.”
Now the evidence that the jab does not work as a vaccine and is poisonous, and that the muzzles do not work, is huge. And natural immunity is better. No way I will ever take the jab.
I never got the jab. They pushed way too hard. Something was obviously wrong with it. Then I got Covid in Oct of 2020. I recovered from it but damn near didn’t because of the NIH treatment protocol. I called an ambulance 5 days into the disease. They came, checked my vitals and said they weren’t bad enough to admit me. I then asked if they’d at least treat me. They said no. So I stayed home another 4 days. That day I picked up my wife from the hospital. She had had Covid and had recovered but needed to be on oxygen. When I get her home we both realized that I was too sick to care for her, so I called another ambulance. They took me in this time and also drove back and picked up my wife. We had adjoining rooms in the Covid ward. I had sepsis but we both walked out again in 5 days. Prior I was on 2 kidney transplant lists. Both hospitals demanded that I get the jab in order to remain on the active transplant list. But I had natural immunity. It was tested and verified by a local pathology lab. Plus I knew that they had never produced a successful coronavirus vaccine after years of trying and that candidates that they thought had worked ended up resulting in Pathogenic Priming or ADE sometime latter. So I’m not about to take the clot shot. I told them to pound sand and went on dialysis. The doctors at both hospitals were incredibly pushy. The two teams did a full court press on me. Via this experience I’ve lost all remaining faith in the health system, and my faith in vaccines is now less than 0. I’d take a shot to the head before I’d take one of these shots. Note, my wife and I were on D, zinc, curcumin and C. I think that’s what pulled us through so quickly.
My husband and I decided not to receive the shot. Just knowing, hearing there were other forms of medicine for symptoms and treatments, however most of us know how that went (plus we live in CA).
About 20 years ago I was very troubled about the possible side effects from the flu shot. I really was afraid of getting a sore throat and remember that was a possible side effect. Some did just fine and others were sick from the flu shot and continued to catch the flu! My husband rarely gets sick so for us it was easy to not take the shot. Also, with the utter craziness in CA and some locally, we remain a no.
My husband was the only person at his job who has not taken the shot. He has a wonderful employer so there was no pressure at all.
My husband and I both got deathly ill will a ‘flu’ January 2020. Then came the lock down in March.
We are over 65 and for a couple weeks we were nervous but then it just hit me, you walk in fear or you walk in faith.
I decided screw this and invited everyone over for Sunday dinner and time with grandkids.
I tend to stay healthier the further I am from any prescriptions and never wanted annual flu shots. Not diabetic or high bp.
Funny thing, after that really bad ‘flu’ we have not had a cold or flu in 3 years. Immune system went into overdrive I guess. Fine otherwise.
One daughter totally lined up for the shots with her kids and has gone distant now. The other four families have stayed healthy and pure.
They don’t trust medical anymore than I do. When they are so adamant to Vax everyone I was suspicious
It just didn’t pass the smell test.
I was living with and taking care of my 74 YO mom in Wisconsin when the pandemic hit. She received a notification letter that she was eligible for the shot in early January 2021 right before I left on a quick, unexpected trip to check on my house in Illinois. We agreed that she should hold off on getting the shot until I returned. While I was away, God continued playing with His chess pieces by having a high school acquaintance send me a Scott McKay video that, in essence, flipped me from “normie” to “awake” in one fell swoop. I had been moving in that direction since Oct 2020, but this sped things up dramatically. I shared it with my mom and we both agreed to hold off on getting the shot while we continued to investigate all of this new information. We then both “woke up” together over the course of the next several months. I shared whatever I found with a small network of like-minded people via a text group I created called “We The People.” I would screen news and videos during the day and play the most useful ones for my mom at night. Watching Fox News became a thing of the past.
My mom ended up catching Covid in late August 2021. I tried to get Ivermectin for her through a telemedicine doctor but the “overnight” shipment of the prescription went from Green Bay to Memphis, TN over Labor Day weekend and stalled out. It ended up taking almost a week to arrive, but she needed oxygen before that and had to be admitted to the hospital. She fought it for over 2 weeks, but according to the nurses, the Delta variant was simply wearing people out before they could recover from all the microblood clots. She carefully wrote down and signed a note that she didn’t want to be intubated and had it prominently taped to her hospital bed. She chose to end her battle on 9/21/21. I wasn’t allowed in the hospital to help her live, but I was allowed in to watch her die.
She had successfully fought lung cancer 2 years prior. We used CaringBridge for that journey and had a very supportive experience. In contrast, when she was hospitalized for Covid, she had me delay telling anyone for the first week for fear of the backlash until I ultimately overrode her. The response was very different this time. I had to shield her from people asking or making comments about the shot…even at her memorial service. Despite passing from Covid pneumonia (and I believe it really was based on her symptoms and its trajectory), I don’t think she regretted her decision not to get the shot. My brother as well as his wife and kids also did not get it. His kids are homeschooled but a few of them lost their part-time jobs over it. He “woke up” 20 years ago while getting his graduate degree at Georgetown and working for a think tank that took him to the Pentagon, but he never shared that with us until 2021. Part of me is grateful that my dad passed away in 2019 with his illusions intact.
I’ve lost a friend from high school who likened my mom’s choice to entertain some friends in her home mask-free to them “entering the house with a loaded gun.” She couldn’t accept my mom’s decision after surviving cancer to live the remainder of her life on her own terms rather than based on a fear of death. I miss having her next to me on this journey that is often so very isolating. I think she would have appreciated your articles very much had we come across them back then.
So sorry about your mom. May God give you comfort. These are the stories that are most upsetting to hear: the way that hospitals became a killing ground, refusing treatment known to help CV patients because the CDC forbid this, and preventing family from visiting and being able to smuggle effective treatment in to their loved ones. Not making excuses for hospitals but they don’t have a choice but to obey CDC rules here in CA or the CDC can close their doors, issue outrageous fines. They live in fear of this daily. Now in CA thanks to Newsom’s new edict he got through the state legislature, the Medical board can take a doctor’s medical license if they give patients advice that contradicts the CDC. Most choose to drink the koolaid and believe the propaganda coming from their masters. The CDC has way too much power and should be abolished. Those in charge at the CDC during the pandemic making these decisions and medical professionals who refused life saving treatment that their patients/families requested should be put on trial Nuremberg style. I pray to God that one day this will come and there will be Justice.
I came down with flu symptoms February 17th 2020 and was tested for influenza A and B (swabbed up the nose through the brain to the back of my skull!). The result was positive for A and negative for B. I had not received a flu shot for that flu season.
My big unanswered question is could I really have had Covid even though I tested positive for influenza A? Is it possible for a Covid infection to yield a positive test result for influenza A?
It was sometime in that time frame that I became aware of Covid19. I have always, most lazily, allowed my wife to dictate my health care as she has always been informed and diligent to research health treatments. So when they became available I gave in to her encouragement to receive the first two Moderna jabs. Afterwards, more and more “misinformation” on Covid came out which really began to concern me to the point that I have refused to receive the boosters. This past summer (2022) I had symptoms (not terrible, no fever and the aches and fatigue passed in 3 days, cough diminished over a couple of weeks) and tested positive for Covid. My wife, who has been boosted twice, also tested positive for Covid having developed her symptoms within two days after I had received my positive test results. Her recovery was little different than mine.
A funny aspect with my Covid infection was, just as the positive result had arrived, my symptoms were mostly gone but the result had automatically triggered a prescription for Paxlovid by my doctor which I felt no need to take at all. A not so funny aspect of my two early Moderna jabs is a possible side effect that developed within a very short time frame after the second jab that has remained ever since (wish I wasn’t too embarrassed to describe the nature of bm’s!😬). My first doctor said there was no basis for my concern about jab side effects but had me tested for some other possible cause which came back negative. Eventually she left her practice at my clinic, and, more recently, I was seen by her replacement who said that I should get a colonoscopy to have it checked out. That is scheduled in a couple of months.
Since then my wife and I have a kind of an unspoken truce regarding the boosters I refuse to take.
Science…
real science not fauci science
I am a 72-year old teacher at a Phila charter school . I got a mild case of Covid early on and submitted antibody test results that spared me for a while. Finally, after the jab was mandated, Christian friends helped me to construct an essay in order to obtain a religious exemption, which, thank God, was approved. I had to be tested weekly for a long time. There were about 15 of us out of a staff of 180 who had some form of exemption.
I credit other treepers who pointed the way, early on, toward doctors and scientists willing to speak up and warn of the dangers we were facing. The hard part was trying to convince my family and friends. Almost no luck there, except that my daughters were willing try to avoid it for the grandchildren. The college mandates are almost universal. Horrible!
My husband took 2 jabs in order to keep his job (which he finally quit) and now the dermatologist has biopsied 3 growths on his back. Related? Quite possible, in my mind. Who knows. If you are a Christian reading this, please take a moment to pray for my dear Rich. Thank you, and God bless those of us who love Him and our country.
Sundance – the best disinfectant.
Prayers going out for both Rich and your entire family Iron Lady…
Thank you
I hate big pharma,(Crime of the Century), CDC, FDA, all government…all they do is lie. Dr. Death (fauci) has a history of killing people…(AIDS/AZT). I never thought so many would fall for this. And even more shocked that Trump did. And once it was proven not to stop spread, I’m infuriated that some are still mandating it. The full censorship of anyone suggesting other treatments was the sure sign this was never about health.
There was something wrong from the beginning – both with the Covid itself and then the vaccines. I never considered it – as almost everything that the govt was forcing on us was against 100 years of public health. Then, once the lotteries, the “free stuff” for a vax, outrageous propaganda and the fact that any other simple, (and cheap) treatment was purposefully made “unavailable” or difficult to get made me even more sure I didn’t want it. I ended up with covid in June of 21, used the frontline doctors to obtain the hydroxychloroquine/zinc/azithromycin and it did help me recover. I did lose my taste/smell for almost 6 months. I will never, ever, take another vaccine again. Oh, and the final straw – when the pharma companies AND the govt tried to get the courts to hide any data for 75 years – well, nothing to see there, folks!
Being self employed I had no employer forcing the the shot on me.
I elected to just wait and see.
Told my primary care doctor I new the risk but I was healthy and had an intact immune system.
He said just get the J&J shot.
It’s a one and done.
So I looked for it in Massachusetts but the Moderna and Phizer goons had basically forced J&J out of the state. So that kinda red flagged it for me and by then it was a year into the hysteria.
I just said I would continue to wait and see.
So glad I did.
WE HAD safe medications to effectively treat all the symptoms of this reparatory virus, why would anyone choose to inject the most lethal part of the virus into their system is what has baffled me. Except that they were coerced by a fascistic/ leftist govt. How does that story always end?
First rule: NEVER GET ON THE TRAIN… The Farm wrote it up well: If you do not want to be gassed, glassed, or gouged in a medical experiment — never step foot on the train.
Communists and Fascists always use the same techniques to shuffle Undesirables around. If they start doing that, don’t entertain the idea that they’re sending you somewhere for your own benefit. They’re not — and they never do.
What they are actually attempting to do, in the case of ‘trains’ — is ‘Concentrate’ people in ‘Camps.’ It’s shocking how many cultures this sickness pervades. It’s when you’re “thinking incorrectly” or “existing incorrectly” — and East or West — it’s all the same. They put Undesirables on trains and ship them off to Parts Unknown. Sometimes there are showers, and sometimes there are tables where organs are taken, lately it would seem involuntarily. But it’s always the same story. ~
https://farm.substack.com/p/the-first-rule-of-fight-club
I contracted COVID in February of 2020. It was not yet known as a “deadly” virus, so I assumed it was a very bad flu. I took Zicam and Alka Seltzer Cold and Flu, because I didn’t know what else to take. I suffered for a couple of weeks, and by March, 2020, the panic had set in. When the shots were being pushed, no one could explain to me why I should take a shot for an ailment I had already gotten through. So, I didn’t take one, and with what I know now, I never will.
I got pushback from family (the only people I encouraged to take therapeutics instead of shots), but I left it up to them to decide. I figured I’d done my duty to inform them. Beyond that, they bear responsibility for the decisions they made.
I’m a retired physician and a skeptic/researcher by nature. The “vaccine” itself was developed too quickly to have been deemed safe, using technology that had never been used before. Even before I knew the vaccine used mRNA technology, I was already convinced that the severity of Covid was much, much less than portrayed on CNN with the daily death toll chyron.
I kept asking my wife how they could report a mortality rate without knowing how many had actually had the disease. I’m certainly no where close to an epidemiologist, so I began dividing the number of reported deaths by half the population of a given country or state and kept getting mortality rates similar to the flu.
I, my family, and friends all got the “flu” that first December – presumed to be Covid because the CDC said influenza had magically not appeared this winter. The news reported the loss of sense of smell as a symptom as did many around me and I told them everyone loses their subjective sense of smell with a stuffy nose lol. I started reading as much as possible.
Thank God for Substack and my list of truth tellers on Twitter. With knowledge I became increasingly more cynical. ICUs were near full but ICUs have always been run close to capacity. Patients needed to be hospitalized and put on respirators but (still wow) hospitals received payment for each diagnosis and were making 30k for each patient they put on the respirator.
All of a sudden masks were needed everywhere when they never had been used for preventing viral illness before. N95 or cloth, the micron rating doesn’t matter when you can breath out and fog up your glasses. Good doctors were cowed into silence by medical boards and the select firing of outspoken physicians advocating for the use of Ivermectin.
After the vaccines were first offered I was already a “no” based on my belief in herd immunity and then a definite “NO” based on the technology. I tried initially to convince anyone that would ask, that they should wait for more information. As time passed I learned to not broach the subject, as people who took it were by that time too invested. In that manner I maintained most of my friendships with people who were vaccinated and in many cases able to convince them later to wait on boosters.
The people who were completely swept up by vaccine propaganda were already not talking me. Interestingly they were the same people who “dropped” me when I voted for Trump (two sisters included). My wife and I call them the “hypnotizable.” I’m very thankful that most of my close extended family waited and very sad for the two grandchildren that didn’t have a choice.
Wow, thank you Sundance! I didn’t realize how badly I needed to vent. td
For me, not taking the Covid vaccine boiled down to critical thinking and a basic risk/benefit analysis. After cutting through the fear and noise, it was clear that with my age and overall good health it really wasn’t a necessity and certainly not worth the potential risks.
Plus MRNA just didn’t sit right with me. I may have considered a traditional vaccine, but genetically instructing my body to produce something foreign (spike protein) was a bridge too far.
I was prepared to lose my job and suffer any consequences. This was a hill to die on. Thankfully my wife agreed with me and we both held out. Best decision we ever made.
We both got Covid recently and while it was definitely a week of being uncomfortable, our immune systems worked as they were designed to and we bounced back. I feel totally vindicated and that all my research and questioning led me to make the right decision. Seeing all the “died suddenly” and “unexplained” heart conditions among the vaccinated recently, I’m 100% sure I made the right call.
The CTH community was a vital source of information and encouragement during Covid and I couldn’t be more thankful for Sundance’s analysis and everyone who shared their knowledge and experiences for the greater good.
I work in designing life saving medical devices, and have for 45 years. A small inch up/ change to an existing device (of which there are millions implanted) requires a 2 year actual length clinical study with several thousand patients and months of data analysis when complete. A brand new technology, studied on a few patients for a few months did not sit well with me from experience, statistical, or gut feel reactions.
Multiple reasons. From the get-go. Didn’t buy into what the WH Covid Team was saying (watched every Covid presser) I thought they were giving DJT bad advice about shut downs and school closures and ultimately about the vaccines. I think what broke me was when the surgeon general showed us how to make safe masks from a handkerchief and rubber bands. Didn’t trust Fauci’s vaccine efficacy rates. Started reading/following Scott Atlas, Bhattacharya, Dr. Peter McCollough and Robert Malone. Read every study I could find. Consulted with my family and used the discernment God gave me. Decided 🚫 Covid Vaccines. To date never got Covid (took antibody test) pounded vitamin D and C. That’s my story.
It was simple in spirit: the masks and the jab represented–to me–THE challenge situation for all those who believe in Jesus Christ. Would I accept a “mark” in order to “buy, sell, trade”?
This was the trial run for a digital ID, which will be THE mark of the beast.
I am a child of God. I will never sell my soul to the system.
1. From the beginning, complete lockstep censorship and attack dog tactics across every mainstream media/social media when alternatives or concerns were attempting to be expressed.
2. The demonization and denial of access to ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine.
3. The attempt by the medical community, and most notably the CDC, etc., actually trying to cast natural (herd) immunity as not as effective as their injection.
So, in short:
1. Attack on freedom of speech
2. Full spectrum persecution
3. Gaslighting, denial of long-proven and accepted medical truths
And one last thing: the complete immunity of every pharmaceutical company from any legal accountability by those injured and/or killed by their “product”.