I am bumping this post to the top of the page and updating because, well, I’ll explain.
First, thank you. Sincere and genuine thankfulness for your fellowship. Visitors to this site continue to prove that our nation is created by, and an assembly of, the most decent, honest, generous and kind-hearted people in the world. The responses to the question of ‘why didn’t you take the covid-19 shot?’ are nothing short of remarkable.
In the bigger picture if you want to fill up your faith cup and recognize the scale of commonsense assembly in our nation, take the time to read through the 2,000+ responses.
The feedback you are providing is exceptional and trust me when I say that far more people are reading these responses than you could fathom. Additionally, the responses have reasserted my belief in the scale of our national assembly. There are far more of us, ordinary, hardworking, commonsense, pragmatic and smart people, than the self-described intellectual elites would ever admit.
In addition to the responses below, there have been hundreds of emails answering the question, which suddenly made me realize that no one has really ever asked this question before in a format that provides ordinary people with the ability to respond.
There is also a yearning to talk about this issue, publicly and with deliberation; massively so. And I am hopeful (insert grin here) this small corner of the internet is about to push this conversation into a much larger national forum. Our nation needs a big conversation about this.
If I had to pick a single phrase to encapsulate the myriad of phenomenal responses to the question I would use the phrase, “intellectual discernment”; which again provides buckets of faith that a large number of people are wide awake, albeit part of what I call a potato revolution growing safely underground.
Also, unbeknownst to front page readers I am stunned at the people in/around operation warp-speed, these are people in government directly attached to the issue, who have contacted CTH on the backside, stepped forward and said they also didn’t take the shot because, well, despite their belief in the purpose and principle at the time, things were just not adding up and ultimately seemed sketchy. They couldn’t talk (so they felt), couldn’t even hint at their concern; but when it came to making the personal decision, they waited.
I also owe it to you to answer the question of my own status, which is a big heck no – I did not take the jab.
Why? Because in the preceding years of all my research into the rapidly exposed corruption of our government, there was just no way in hell I was going to trust that same system. A system that literally was working outside the constitution and legal framework of our nation to destroy a sitting U.S. President is going to suddenly care about my health. Nope, it did not align. I also looked at the datapoint of the U.S.S. Comfort delivered to New York City under the grandest of media proclamations about impending medical doom, only to see the ship sit empty and completely unused despite the scale of the narrative that surround its purpose.
Lastly, and more obliquely, the datapoint of one of my heroes Franklin Graham assembling a NY field hospital to serve over 20,000 patients; another massive endeavor that sat empty and without use. However, prior to the hindsight, it was the in-real-time fight from officials in/around the area who tried to block Samaritans Purse from setting up the facility. If the SARS-CoV-2 issue was as great a threat as declared, then why would anyone fight to keep out a field hospital that could provide such relief. It just didn’t make sense.
Those issues, and others, formed the baseline of my inability to reconcile the key issue of ‘trust’ needed to believe in the vaccine. Additionally, I am healthy and not within any of the risk factors. However, I also feel strongly that each health decision is unique to the individual person, and everyone was making the best decisions for them based on the available information at the time; so, I carry no judgement for those who made a different choice.
As noted, I am bumping this to the top of the site so that our conversation can continue. Normally I would start a new thread, but this one is different. I don’t want to break the continuity and I want to provide everyone the ability to see they are not alone.
Love to all,
Sundance
Reader feedback request.
I was quite shocked to review a poll I took on the Twitter last month showing that 85% of the people who follow the CTH Twitter account [TLR2] did not take the COVID-19 jab.
Without any judgement implied or inferred I am genuinely curious, why not?
With the situation clearly in hindsight, and/or given all the pressure that may have been applied to each individual situation, I am genuinely curious what was it that made you choose not to take the COVID-19 vaccination.
If you are comfortable, and please understand that no pressure is intended in any way whatsoever, could you share why you didn’t take the vaccine and how do you feel about that decision in hindsight?
If you did take the vaccination, there is also no judgement in this question. As I said back in 2021 each individual is unique, each situation is unique, and each person has to make the best decision about what is in their individual best interests. So please, don’t let this issue divide our conversation.
I am genuinely curious as to the reason so many people would withstand the public and perhaps peer pressure to follow the ‘vaccination’ advice. Also, how has that decision impacted your life? Did you lose friends and family over your personal health decision? Did those relationships heal over time? Or anything else you might find pertinent to the general question.
While driving in December 2019 I heard some doctor on talk radio saying that the flu was different from flus of the past 20 years; primarily, based on his home from collage daughter, wife and himself having had the flu over Thanksgiving
~and that all three had different symptoms and duration, yet all had fatigue.
Some time later, Johnheretohelp on twitter
posted something about a manufactured illness that would be further spread
and be more severe by way of a shot; that was more lethal than the illness.
~ I thought his tweet was either humor, madness or code for something I knew nothing about.
There was an article about people in Milan Italy getting sick … and potential travel restrictions.
~This piqued my interest.
Once Fauci was mentioned in the “news” touting the curve … masks and social distancing
I became almost obsessed with finding out what the heck was going on; as I’d read about Fauci some time before all of this… and moving a lab to a lab in Wuhan China.
Oh, and that scumbag Cuomo (my mother Matilda…. blah blah blah)
on his daily free publicity propaganda show
~was so bull$h!t-obvious.
I learned soooo much from treepers too!!!!
~~ links, articles, interviews, data and protocols
AmazingPolly.net did some really good videos and had some good sources noted.
Some family members (too many) jabbed and boost (My God!)
~~The vaxxed seem to have a wall between their mind and brain.
As long as there is no real discussion about it, all is well.
Oh, and those maskers???? My goodness!
I would cordially pick up their used mask that they put on the kitchen counter or table when told they do not need to wear a mask in my home
~and hand it to them; as I sanitized the counter or table.
Most of my immediate have not shot. (phew!)
~We would jump in front of a fast-moving semi first.
Even though I was 75 years old at the time, I have been in good health and did not fear the Covid. Over the years my immune system has been very good to me. I’ve never been one to take quickly to every new thing which came around the bend. So I did not rush down to take the clot shot, even though cousins and their families were bragging that they already had the shot (sadly a spouse of a cousin had cancer which had been in remission return after she had the clot shot.) I follow a lot of the “alternative” media and very quickly Mike Adams, Jane Ruby, Dr. McCullough, Dr. Malone and others were warning us about the nature of the clot shot, and how it basically destroys one’s immune system. I don’t think I would ever have taken it, but those experts clinched it for me; plus I did not trust the government which uses scare tactics to push their nefarious agendas, including the clot shot.
Simply, I don’t take any vaccine.
I never even considered taking the MRNA products and by the grace of God was never put into a position of it being ‘mandated’ that I do so. I also never submitted to a single PCR nasal rape.
I knew the scamdemic was precisely a component of the WEF/globalist cabal cult from day one.
I have zero regets whatsoever and am in fact extremely grateful to be pure blood.
For those good people who’ve been deceived, protocols for possibly stopping the harm and regaining health are available. All of this briefly summarizes my thoughts concerning the cabal orchestrated ‘pandemic’ and the gene therapy/vaccine hysterically and maniacally pushed upon us as a solution to the problem THEY staged.
My choice started with an f and ended with a u.
The cumulative risk of an
1) uber rapid deployment (warp speed)
2) of an experimental gene-altering drug
3) that has never been shown effective in animals
4) with virtually no clue as to its long-term effects
5) presented in a highly politicized manner
6) where low-cost alternative therapies were vehemently attacked
7) and all against a virus, though dangerous, still had a low mortality rate
appeared to be too high.
Besides, I’m vaccinated with the blood of Jesus Christ and if He wants me to stick around on planet earth a little longer, then no virus is going to alter that fact.
When we were told what symptoms to look out for, my first thought and comment was, “well damn, this sounds an awful lot like the flu.” I’ve been sick, rare but have been, and have had terrible head colds, even the flu. I have treated each with a combo of homeopathic and over counter meds. Knocked every one out within a week or less.
When I got Covid, I didn’t do anything different than I normally would. Zinc, Vit C, garlic, silver shield, kickass and NyQuil at night to ensure sleep. Took it easy on a Sun and Mon. Did limited work on Tues/Wed to gauge endurance, full work on Thurs and Fri (construction). Headache stuck around through the weekend. After that, no problem.
Yes, I get that mine would be considered a milder case, but at no time did I try to overthink it.
A year later, my wife got it. Hers was more respiratory in nature. She treated exactly the same but added elderberry in. As long as she didn’t get worse, she kept up her same protocol. Lasted about 10 days, cough lingered for another week or so, then it was over.
It’s a virus, for most people, treat the symptoms, let your body do it’s job. If you keep going south, seek alternatives
For me, the unique symptom was loss of smell. Took a good 6 months to return. For my brother, it was smell/taste distortion he could not eat beef for months- he could not stand the smell of a burger and or eat one.
My body, my choice. Ain’t that what the lefties say?
We’re all going to die at some point, and through Jesus Christ’s mercy I do not fear death.
But I never felt it was His plan to have me inject a suspicious, untested drug into my veins, especially when they decided to change the definition of a “vaccine” in order to trick me into doing it.
And this whole scam always was about fear and control.
So I never did get the jab, and won’t. Ever.
I was ambivalent and had Covid early on. Got to see the Pfizer documents through a FOIA request and the data was incredibly troubling. Separately they silenced all other options for treatment and doctors who has simple life saving protocols were shunned. When I explored more I felt the vaccine was less about health and more about greed, control and power. I will NEVER take one.
My wife came down sick February 14, 2020 with flu like symptoms with one atypical symptom of her eyes hurting. She complained something terrible about her eyes, had a high fever and feeling achy all over. She had been to her doctor the day before, and the next day, the 15th of February, we traveled to our local Urgent Care fully expecting her to be diagnosed with the Flu. She didn’t have the flu and the doctors there knew she was terribly ill and were surprised she tested negative. Gave us some steroids and sent us home. This was before anyone had mentioned Covid at least publicly so we didn’t think much about this until later. We know she had Covid and she recovered in a weeks time.
I knew from the beginning we would never take the vaccine. Call it the Donald Trump effect because with his winning the election in 2016, the world shifted somehow and I’m not sure if it will ever be the same. I knew from the beginning that something different and evil had entered our world, a corruption that had never surfaced before had materialized out of the blue infecting our country like it never had before.
I was already cynical about politics knowing full well our government and its politicians were corrupted by money and power. But the Establishment reaction to Trump from not just Democrats but the Media as well Republicans was astounding to me. The FBI counter-intelligence investigation into Trump, the spying, the outright lies told about him, the Mueller investigation fully supported by Linsey Graham, Mitch McConnell and many other Republicans. I guess I knew about the Establishment before but I didn’t realize until then just how powerful and ruthless they were, and I never expected the full blown assault on Donald Trump.
An outsider had been elected President before like Reagan but he never experience this kind of coordinated attack from the Establishment. This was when my eyes were fully opened to this new reality and it has changed our nation completely. My trust in anything government died that day, and Covid was nothing but the corrupt government showing just how far its corruption had reached into all out institutions. Medicine, Media and even corporations were all under the evil control of our government.
God help us.
By April 2020, we knew the IFR was close to seasonal flu. Obama was pushing #cheatbymail. The lockdown policy showed Trump was being suckered to tank his election. Everything downstream from that was not to be trusted. The biomechanics of coding one’s own cells to produce the toxic spike was idiocy. Election fraud, #fedsurrection, vax all part of the same attack.
test to see if I can post. It has been a very long time.
You’re good to go!
Welcome back!!!!!
As a RN and Pharmacist 40 years, worked with HIV inmates in the 80s. Am well educated in RNA virology and Fauci killing AIDS babies in NYC. The feardemic had me following the research of DR Montague sequencing COVID and Dr Malone s mRNA research. Refused “vax” d/t PEG vehicle allergy. Infected 1/22 with moronic took ivermectin and recovered ( it worked on AIDS inmates, keeping their Tcells stable). Son and grandchildren unvaxxed and remain so.
We know fear mongering.
We are healthy 60 yrs old with no china Rx’s in our bodies. We haven’t had a cold/flu since the 90’s. Vitamins and healthy home cooking and baking. No need for mask, jabs our immune systems work as they should.
I did not get the jab and never considered getting the thing because trying to change your DNA for a virus that no one can isolate seems foolish.
Thinking you can carry some dread illness in your nose near your brain and feel great anyway is absurd.
Sundance, I did NOT take the Lab Rat Clot Shot BECAUSE I followed my gut instinct. First, I listened to some doctors, BEFORE they were banned” advising against it, and read many articles. The same went for the “diaper masks” that studies PROVED to be ineffective. Secondly, KNOWING that the shots were NOT researched in a credible fashion and the speed that they were FORCED on the population by the government gave me all the more reason NOT to take the shot(s). Lastly, and most importantly I put myself in the hands of God and repeated a saying from St.Padre Pio…”PRAY, HOPE and DON’T WORRY. Worry is USELESS”. It worked for me and many I know.
I saw a few Robert Malones speeches on the Messenger RNA animal trials in mid 2020, after that I stayed abreast of any news regarding the clot shot. All three of my siblings and my father is unvaxxed. There was a lot of coercion to take the jab and that only solidified my concerns.
I’ve never believed in flu shots, I’ve never taken one and I never get the flu.
Only people who take the flu shots seem to be sick all the darn time.
The jab was a major turning point for me politically, I used to think we could coexist with these Marxists but now I know we can’t.
Why? I’m pro-life. Including mine.
Love this!
Never even crossed my mind to take it. I live with 2, 4 year degreed nurses. Wife and her sister. None of us in the entire house of about 6-7 got it. Doctors they have known for decades didn’t take and advised them not to take it. We are in a somewhat smallish town about 1 hour drive from major big town of the state.
Hi Sundance,
I did not get the jab for a few reasons:
1. Never thought about getting it– I never get sick, don’t see need for flu shots, etc. and this mRNA type jab in particular was too sketchy.
2. The “tabletop exercise” Bill Gates’s held in Oct. 2019.
WEF Great Reset, Agenda2019, Agenda2030, Agenda21 were at the forefront of my thoughts as every Western country came out with the same slogan: “Build Back Better.”
Every single politician used the exact same talking points to push the jab and the covid scare. It felt fake, and the response completely overblown.
The harder people pushed the more resolved I became. Then came mandates (on top of lockdowns, face doilies…) which made me furious. The response was completely overblown!
3. Didn’t lose friends, none took it (have no immediate family.) My best friend has a young son and she and her husband felt like I did.
I read the briefing book that Pfizer submitted the the FDA for EUA (12-10-20). I knew they were lying about herd immunity.
Very happily ‘no.’
We’re church going Christians, so our support was there.
I smelled a rat when someone convinced Trump that there was a NEW “shortcut” to develop a vaccine. I smelled a rotten elephant when I learned that it was based on mRNA technology. Only GOD is allowed to program my DNA.
As i jump into the discussion again, there are 1,348 comments, that might be close to a record for one discussion, not sure. Anyway, there are no disputable comments that I have seen so far. Which means not very much. Chuckling.
Yes, this thread just may be a record. Been trying to read all the comments but they are coming in faster than I can read!!!!!
There are 1,662 comments now, haven’t read all of them, but good to know I am not alone.
I did not take the COVID vaxx because I have an immune system and I didn’t want that mRNA crap screwing it up. I’ve had a mild case. It lasted 3 days. I’m worried about my daughter, who’s tsken 2 Pfizer jabs, and most of my coworkers, who’ve taken multiple Moderna jabs. A pox on the CCP for unleashing this crap on the world.
Rush always taught me. Never trust the “conventional wisdom”. Best teaching I could have ever picked up.
Plus I just like to give the government the big middle finger.
I’m NOT a big vax buy anyway. I never got a flu shot and I’m 64 now. I am retired and I was NOT a big believer in it. I then saw more and more reason not to get it.
Also, FJB.
I had Covid in march 2020 – one of the first to get it. It was spring break and it was weird, I got every symptom sequentially one after the other and then 5 days in I felt like I was gonna die. I couldn’t do anything but get up and shovel as much random food down my throat as I could, then go back to sleep. I was literally 50/59 if I’d even wake up each time because I wasn’t getting better. Then, bam, I was 100% on the next day. Then 4 I was down and sleeping again.
Anyways I ended up with long Covid (before it even had a name or symptoms being reported). Lost a lot of memory – I still can’t add a bunch of memory like I used to. It’s hard to retain and learn. It sucks. My eyes went from 20/20 to basically I can barely read my phone anymore. Lung capacity was decimated 1/10th what it used to be.
So I got the shot from Moderna. Haven’t had any issues with that. Don’t know if it helped or not, but I’m prob not getting one again until it’s like it was before and rapidly spreading and highly lethal.
I’m in 40’s, former smoker (Covid made me quit), bmi 29. So I’m probably in the higher risks for serious medical problems. If I was 65 I’d def get every shot. If I was 20 I wouldn’t get a shot til I was 40.
Heard lucid warning pre vax availability that vaccines take a full seven years to test and bring to market. Noticed MSM poo-pooing vitamin D and ignoring low IFR for various cohorts. Leary of my own cells producing products that my own body attacked as part of the experiment. Red flags compounding red flags.
No interest in measuring for natural immunity like India was doing.
Never got close to considering it. Obvious choice.
My first thought , this was too fast , I’m going to wait , then found out it was gene therapy and said , Oh heck no ! I used to watch a lot of Frankenstein films and was very much aware of the “mad scientist” and that evil still exist. Therefore , my mantra to friends was 1) gene therapy 2) pharma free from liability 3) no long term trails . My friends and family were great , they all believe in freedom of choice. One sister and her entire family all vaxxed – I don’t think they got this last booster as they started to pay attention . My other sister and husband was like me . My best friend and I supported each other and refused it, she almost lost her job. Everything about this c vid problem was suspect and propaganda .
The Pfizer/Moderna mRNA type shot had never been used before. It was rushed. Didn’t trust Fauci or any of them. We needed a shot and waited for Johnson&Johnson, a “more traditional” shot. No boosters, ever.
Without having read any of the >1.2k comments – the short version originally was learning that mRNA shots never worked out well for the subjects of non-human trials, with no human trials before this. (Where the typical result started positive, but upon later reintroduction of the pathogen, it never turned out well for the subjects.)
Then J&J got their shot approved. I was starting to consider it based on the passive and anticipated pressure from the employer as it seemed to be a bit different, but that’s about the time it’s clotting issue came into prominence with calls for reduction in it’s recommendation. So I opted not for it (and had previously told my doctor I would refuse to take any mRNA shot).
While still not ideal, fortunately, my employer allowed for testing in lieu of taking the shots. At first they provided the testing on site… then after awhile you had to find your own off site… but, allowed some time to be on the clock for testing. (Annoying, but it beat taking the shots as at that point as more information was leaking out about how bad these shots were and, of course, now you need more of them.)
After I tested positive a little over a year ago (started noticing a temp, then a bad sore throat for a day or two, with continued temp fluctuations for another day or two after that, then just a little stuffiness that waned over the next few weeks)… I was exempt from testing for 90 days… (yeah)… during that time, they started allowing for self report home testing – which I needed to do for a few weeks before testing was finally abandoned as a weekly requirement.
Since then, there has been no need for testing or the shots, although the employer still encourages getting the shots and has offered incentives.
I’m good with my decision to not take them (as well as my immediate family). And most people I know that have had them, have commented that they don’t plan to take anymore. (There are a couple that still may though – but, that’s their choice.)
I’m just glad I was not placed in the position of jab or job and have the greatest sympathies for those that faced that choice. That was the main reason I was considering the J&J shot at the time – as it was looking like it might get required and I wasn’t sure how I was going to be able to provide for my family.
(And yes, a lot of the initial information that led to other locations with more information (and additional links, etc.) started here at CTH. Not just starting with the main posts – but, many starting points came from the comments. Thank you all!)
http://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/disease/a-fictional-exercise-to-control-pandemic-oct-18-2019-that-is-destroying-the-world-economy/
This is a video of select moments from the Event 201 pandemic tabletop exercise hosted by the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security in partnership with the World Economic Forum and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation back on October 18, 2019, in New York, NY. What this illustrates is how these people think only about a pandemic and how to shut down everything without any regard to the impact on the global economy. Well, this says it all for me.
Ya – RFK Jr points out the Event 201 thing in his movie (and presumably the book).
Armstrong also had a swedish scientist on very early who said death rate would be about .2%!
As soon as I found out they used mrna for my own cells to generate the antigen protein, I figured it was going to cause autoimmune attacks.
I did not take any Covid shots nor did my spouse. Both of us take the least amount of prescriptions as possible, so we were not going to take an experimental drug, especially after reading as much about its trials as possible.
Fortunately my employer never tried to mandate it. My spouse has been working from home since the original “ two week lockdown”’so it was no issue there.
I finally caught Covid after Thanksgiving, felt like a bad cold for a couple of days with a fever, spouse had the same two days later
I did not get vaccinated. I came out very early against it, because the mRNA technology had historically failed with really terrible results, like all of the animals dying. Then the methodology came out, the spike proteins, several respected doctors came out saying that this was a possible autoimmune issue and their reasons passed the common sense test.
My wife did get vaccinated, I think mostly due to social media pressure. Her entire family is vaccinated as well, so some pressure there as well.
My family, with the exception of my parents, who are health nuts (literally), are all vaccinated.
I got ALOT of pushback, at family Christmas and thanksgiving, my family required everyone who was not vaccinated (me) to take covid tests and mask up. I decided to not attend over it.
I stood by my decision to not vaccinate and now they all tell me that they don’t want to hear about the issues. My wife’s father has had multiple strokes, he is vaccinated 4x, and my wife and two of her sisters had heart pain for over a month after the vaccine. Everyone has had Covid at least twice on my wife’s side, as well as me and our children, I had Covid symptoms much much less and recovered much faster than they all did, which is apparently a vaccine issue.
I am under standing orders on my side of the family not to discuss vaccine issues, because I think that most of them regret it and they can’t do anything about it.
Covid masking and vaccines have really pushed my side of the family apart, we rarely get together anymore, and I think that they see me as someone who in hindsight was right, but they don’t want to admit it.
I studied genetics in college, including grad school. I read reports in 2020 that mRNA technology had been tested in animals with very bad results. There had never been a successful test. I knew in my heart that the amount of time and effort spent in developing the jabs as well as in testing them was not adequate to prove their safety over the long term. I was also very unhappy to see that alternative treatments were banned. Even discussion about them was banned. I could tell that there was something wrong with the whole setup when one is not allowed to question the safety of what the establishment is pushing.
I made the decision to not put these chemicals into my body without knowing more about them. I couldn’t be happier with my decision.
I was a virus believer up until about February 2020. It was then I was told I couldn’t go to Church until further notice, had to wear a mask just about anywhere I wanted to go, I couldn’t get closer than 6 feet from someone until further notice. All of a sudden the governor of california, and my local county head of public health were getting in my face telling me what I could and couldn’t do
I starting digging for answers besides there’s and found these three guys: Dr. Tom Cowan, Dr. Stefan Lanka & Dr. Andrew Kaufman . There science, i.e., no such thing as a virus, made sense and convinced me. Later came David Martin and Reiner Fuellmich.
I tip my hat to these guys. They took a lot of heat from the virus establishment believers – and still do. Gutsy.
Ya, well Dr. McCullough and Dr. Malone don’t take that view …
I do not have a social media account, therefore I missed the first CTH poll. I did not take the Emergency Use Authorization shot for the following reasons
1.) Circumstances in my life have created DEEP skepticism about pharmaceutical drugs, antibiotics, and the company’s that make them, as well as with the herbicide company’s that make products such as Agent Orange, Round Up etc. All have caused serious health crises as well death in my immediate and extended family as well as in my former workplace: Non-Hodgkin’s Lymphoma; Mesothelioma (death from asbestos); Renal failure from soy based tube feeding (gut turns into hard concrete; and Parkinson’s from Agent Orange in one, and from unknown causes in another. This all occurred well before the plandemic even started; and,
2.) I am far from being a Doctor. I spent many years researching as to the causes of illnesses and death that I have encountered in my family and with friends so I tend to go slow and do research to discern whether the latest and greatest pharmaceutical solution is even plausible to me.
*** I never lied to anyone about my choices. I never tested myself when I was probably exposed to something this past summer. There still is something called a “Summer Cold.” It sucked, but I don’t need to be forgiven for my. choices I just choose to keep my vitamin D3 with K2 level VERY HIGH as I live above the Mason Dixon Line.
Health, Happiness, and Long Life to all who live in these times.
1. I never trusted Fauci or anyone else knowing they flipped-flopped so easily on their recommendations.
He never impressed me.
2. You never ever take a beta medicine unless you are told you are in a stage 4 cancer; you are told there is nothing more traditional medicine can do, so you agree to an experimental drug. At least one generation must first provide the data in order for science to make marked improvements and work out all the bugs before giving the improved innoculation to a wider audience. Even mice trials are first performed which did not happen with Covid 19. To the best of my knowledge, no trials took place. That is my belief.
3. I did not take the jab and never will. I am no longer working other than as a volunteer and no longer have a desire to travel any distances.
4. Most all of my family feels similarly with only one who elected to get the jab for sake of keeping his job. I fear for his life and hope he doesn’t end up being another statistic.
5. I feel very strongly that there are people and companies inclusive of big pharma and media that should be held legally accountable.
Common sense (mom&dad) and suspicion (CTH) for me along with good research & advice from Dr Zelenko (since passed from cancer), Dr Tenpenny, America Front Line Doctors, etc. Stocked up on ivermectin in fall of 2020…had many verbal confrontations with both male & female “Karens” over masks…no biggie. Luckily there were four restaurants/bars in the area that did not enforce mask mandates or flat out stated that masks are not required. They got my patronage…
When news of a mysterious illness originating in China, began to take over the narrative, i remember sitting at the dining room table and telling my teenagers something hinky was going on. I knew it wasn’t as bad as they were saying and that the fear mongering was in high gear. Having found CTH and like minded travelers after the San Bernardino “incident,” my spidey-senses were confirmed. I knew if I did get whatever it was, I’d be fine.
The shutdown came and I was grateful to be working in a factory supporting transportation infrastructure and deemed “essential.” I prayed to keep my job, keep the home I recently purchased , my first home at age 49 after leaving a hellacious marriage of 22 years and trying to raise 4 children from ages 7 to 17. Going to work every morning was like 9/11 every day!
The factory was half staffed. The summer came with mask mandates. The factory was without AC and routinely about 110°F in my sultry southern town. I couldn’t function in that environment with the safety officer constantly making us keep them on. I found another job actually in my degree field of behavioral health.
Since it was under lockdown all appointments were by telephone. Everything was manageable because half of us worked from home and half in the facility to maintain the six feet.
Then the vax rollout came but only for vulnerable people so I could quietly decline and no one said a word which was great since my gut instinct on the vax was a solid “hell no!”
My new problem was working as a conservative, critical thinker in a field dominated by liberal loonies who are pleased and excited to be an extension of the Nanny State.
October 2021/comes. The vax mandates for providers and facilities accepting Medicaid and Medicare funding. I knew this was my hill to die on. My company offered $100 to anyone who could prove they had both boosters. They threatened to dismiss anyone for refusing.
June 2021 came and we were forced by Medicaid to return to in person visits. I wore a mask to keep my job.
I said nothing and kept working, aiming at providing food, clothing, and shelter. I knew they really couldn’t push it. I knew my rights under HIPAA, ADA, and the civil rights act.
They knew I knew because those topics are part of our annual compliance training. Court challenges to the CMS orders came and went and failed. Tennessee let its Medical workers down.
My initial reason for refusing the vax was that no informed consent was possible because no real data could have possibly been collected. I felt angry because that should have been enough. My family supported me in not getting the vax but they really couldn’t understand the extreme pressure from my employer because none of them were being forced to get it once the mandate for all workers was shot down by the OSHA ruling.
The behavior of TPTB confirmed my gut feeling that it was in fact dangerous. I cleaned out my desk and told my boss I would be working from home until further notice. The deadline to get the v was moved over and over. Finally they declared January 6th or else.
Meanwhile a whistleblower came forward to project veritas stating that it was actually true, despite their “protesting too much,” that the vaccines had been developed using aborted fetal cells.
Soon after that my company decided they would accept a religious exemption.
I wrote my own, not asking permission but stating why i would not be getting it and supported it with about 50 scriptures and the Manual of the church of the Nazarene.
My employer had the audacity to state that they would judge whether it was a sincerely held religious belief. I’ve been a pastor for decades so it was a slam dunk. they tried to make us sign an affirmation that basically stated we believed the COVID narrative. It read like a religious statement of faith!
they required weekly testing. Which i have never done! I never said anything about it or made a big stink because they know and I know they are prohibited from asking and i would have an EPIC lawsuit if they ever fired me over it especially now that its confirmed that vaxxed catch and spread like everyone else. That would make testing me a violation of my civil rights because i would be treated differently due to my religion.
Sadly, i couldn’t really share my struggle with my lead pastor because he was 24 and him and his wife got the vax to protect their elderly grandparents because their secular jobs were as substitute teachers. I am the associate in this church. But when asked, I did kindly tell him that we were not called to give medical advice from the pulpit and that we did not have authority to require masks or anything else in worship, so i am.certain God used me in that way to prevent a fracture in our church.
At work of my 11 immediate coworkers 4 refused and continued to refuse during the September to January assault. One was hesitant but gave in. The rest gladly got their $100 bonus. One gets boosted every time she is told to but at least she finally quit fussing at the rest of us.
In the year since then, those that got it have seen that the vax doesn’t work and just don’t talk about it anymore. Which is interesting as we are required to ask our patients if they got it.
Take aways from the last 18 months:
I am incredibly grateful the CTH community and how we love and support one another and keep each other sharp.
“No” and “none ya” are the two most powerful words in the universe no matter what language you speak.
I am stronger by several orders of magnitude, and that’s a good thing even tho it felt like a crushing weight at the time.
Things early on never really added up for me. I remember watching the videos coming out of China, I could never put my finger on it. Something was very odd about those videos of people dropping like flies. As things progressed, and lockdowns started and I started to see people being arrested for walking outside with out a mask….in their own yard, or mothers that took their children to a park that no other children were at being arrested, Nancy Piglousy sneaking into her hair salon and getting her hair done, and various other absurd arrests over people not wearing a mask, I started to feel something else bad was going on and it wasn’t what we were being sold. The rush to get the jab in people without adequate testing and then the militant stance on get the jab or else…really set off me off. I could see this was all about control and little about a virus. We had Covid in Dec 2021. They can stuff their masks and their agenda up their nose.
It’s simple. My gut told me that it was not something good. Every spidey sense I owned was tingling. My wife 100% agreed. We held off, and IRL got a bit of ridicule over it. From eye-rolling acquaintances and doctors. Well, my doctor anyway. It wasn’t long into my “nope” vaccine journey that it became obvious that there was no downside and really that was the end of it. Plus I’d already been exposed to China-X, the wuflu biovariant fauci virus, way back in the beginning and it barely affected me. Later I lost my sense of taste and smell, with the dreaded delta strain. At least it wasn’t the Andromeda strain, I hear that one is bad.
I was in a situation where I was a few weeks away from losing my job if I did not take the vaccine. Johnson & Johnson was almost impossible to find, but I found one place in my city where you could get it if you showed up at 6am the day after they got it in. J&J was the non-mRNA loophole. It did nothing for protection against COVID, so was basically a saline shot. For the most part, if you hadn’t had ill effects from conventional vaccines in the past, J&J would be just fine.
So, I got the J&J to check the box and I kept my job. The rest of my family did not get vaccinated.
I had watched/read and had seen enough data to know at the time the vaccine was neither effective nor safe.
Initially I planned on getting the shot but since it was an entirely new technology, I thought I’d wait a year. I was in a low risk group anyways. I am so glad I did.
I was alarmed by project warp speed. While I know next to nothing about medicne, I do understand how these codes are built. They all sit atop a mountain of failure. After somthing fails, plans of corrective action are formed to prevent it from happening again. Eventually a bunch of people with a lot of people with a lot of experience in revelant fields sort through them and codify the best of them. This is not a fast process, nor should it be. There is a lot of back and forth, solicitation of input, review of the proposed rules,, etc. We really want well thought out rules that prevent failures without being overly burdensome.
Out the other end of that process comes a body of rules that if followed will prevent known means of failure. Some examples would be the international building code, national electric code, etc. These codes are far from perfect, but they do prevent all manner of ridiculous failures. One look at the failures surrounding pharmaceuticals and it is obvious they have, or at least had, a similar process. Every time you see some ambulance chasing attorney in a commercial saying “you may be entitled to compensation” that is a failure. Throwing all that out the window in the name of expediency was alarming to me and caused me to look deeper.
That and my general distrust of new methods I don’t understand. For the last 15 – 20 years I have asked my physician, “how long has this been around?” for every prescription I am not familiar with. Basically once the above mentioned commercials became common. If he tells me decades, I’m cool. If he tells me it is the latest and greatest, I will tell him to find a better solution. I’m paying them a boatload of money and if they have a problem with my preference for a conventional solution, I have hired the wrong guy and need to correct that.
Digging deeper there was nothing but red flags. I thought there had never been a successful gene therapy. There has never been a successful mRNA product. There had never been a successful Corona virus vaccine. Etc. We obviously didn’t have a history of success in this area despite decades of work.
Note: it appears there may be a successful leukemia gene therapy. It went from a being $20k experimental therapy funded by charity to a $450k Novartis product. Because it is one treatment one time, and forget the price, what is the value of that. While scandalous, it does appears to work and is over a decade old. Search “Emily Whitehead Foundation” for more.
I don’t mean this to sound like there was no self doubt, that isn’t the case at all. What I don’t and didn’t know, tower’s over what I do know or at least thought I knew, and I was well aware of that. However a decision had to be made and the preponderance of what was available all pointed one way. Everything that has came out since then has only firmed up my initial decision. The only regrets is that I didn’t try to dissuade others more forcefully when it could have made a difference. That was due to the uncertainty but still…
Didn’t take it do to the fact I have never heard of a vaccine for a VIRUS.
Huh? Measles, mumps, varicella, rubella, rabies…
My husband and I are 70 and in pretty good health.
We contracted Covid in December 2020 and experienced fatigue and flu/cold symptoms for about a week. It bought us time to begin researching and, in hindsight, we believe our guardian angel was at work. This whole thing has been so politicized and clearly propaganda that it’s become clear that the issue is more about control than public health.
Despite pressure from friends and family – nearly all are still boosting – and my doctor, we remain unvaccinated and glad of it. So many people we know have gotten seriously ill, some have died, and we fear for all of them as their immune systems continue to degrade. And virtually all of them have gotten Covid despite having taken the “safe and effective” vaccines.
When half the conversation became censored and prominent well known and highly acclaimed doctors were shunned (Great Barrington Declaration – Bhattacharya, Gupta, Kulldorf) and silenced, it became moot too me. Follow the money!
Hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin were working for front line doctors (Zelenko and 1,000’s of others worldwide), actually IN THE FIGHT, and ill-equipped bureaucratic meatheads like Fauci, Birx, et al who hadn’t seen a patient since the Cold War were dictating what to do, it was so obvious. And the AMA (a laughingstock) mandating doctors to follow the narrative, it literally became laughable – masks, isolation, shots, boosters, etc. 99.5% survival rate says it all! Bottom line, an EUA and no liability to BIG PHARMA told me what it was all about – $$$$$$$. Moderna quadrupling price now of Covid boosters, Remdesivir a complete very EXPENSIVE failure and deadly to boot spoke loudly. Lastly, the mockingbird media – if they tell you something, do and think the exact opposite – disgusting liars!
I had already begun to distrust our healthcare system because of my experience with autoimmune disease, which led me to look towards alternative therapies that have been more safe and effective (for reals) than conventional approaches had been. I had already begun to question the FDA, CDC, NIH, and Big Pharma, etc about their incestuous relationships and the prescription drug racket. When they all combined to scare us into mask wearing, which made no sense, and told us to stay inside, and made no mention of boosting out immune systems, more red flags went off. I knew it was only a matter of time that they would begin the same gaslighting tricks to get people to get jabbed.
If I hadn’t already been distrustful, the fact that this all seemed to be centered around the 2020 election, knowing they wanted to take down Trump, I would have had my guard up. And lastly, when they began the real discrimination against the un-jabbed, it was clear I was right to ignore their fear-mongering and threats.
I did lose out on job opportunities, and was unable to travel. I took up motorcycle riding in response! Every day, I grieve over the news of young people suffering from “sudden adult death syndrome”.