I am bumping this post to the top of the page and updating because, well, I’ll explain.
First, thank you. Sincere and genuine thankfulness for your fellowship. Visitors to this site continue to prove that our nation is created by, and an assembly of, the most decent, honest, generous and kind-hearted people in the world. The responses to the question of ‘why didn’t you take the covid-19 shot?’ are nothing short of remarkable.
In the bigger picture if you want to fill up your faith cup and recognize the scale of commonsense assembly in our nation, take the time to read through the 2,000+ responses.
The feedback you are providing is exceptional and trust me when I say that far more people are reading these responses than you could fathom. Additionally, the responses have reasserted my belief in the scale of our national assembly. There are far more of us, ordinary, hardworking, commonsense, pragmatic and smart people, than the self-described intellectual elites would ever admit.
In addition to the responses below, there have been hundreds of emails answering the question, which suddenly made me realize that no one has really ever asked this question before in a format that provides ordinary people with the ability to respond.
There is also a yearning to talk about this issue, publicly and with deliberation; massively so. And I am hopeful (insert grin here) this small corner of the internet is about to push this conversation into a much larger national forum. Our nation needs a big conversation about this.
If I had to pick a single phrase to encapsulate the myriad of phenomenal responses to the question I would use the phrase, “intellectual discernment”; which again provides buckets of faith that a large number of people are wide awake, albeit part of what I call a potato revolution growing safely underground.
Also, unbeknownst to front page readers I am stunned at the people in/around operation warp-speed, these are people in government directly attached to the issue, who have contacted CTH on the backside, stepped forward and said they also didn’t take the shot because, well, despite their belief in the purpose and principle at the time, things were just not adding up and ultimately seemed sketchy. They couldn’t talk (so they felt), couldn’t even hint at their concern; but when it came to making the personal decision, they waited.
I also owe it to you to answer the question of my own status, which is a big heck no – I did not take the jab.
Why? Because in the preceding years of all my research into the rapidly exposed corruption of our government, there was just no way in hell I was going to trust that same system. A system that literally was working outside the constitution and legal framework of our nation to destroy a sitting U.S. President is going to suddenly care about my health. Nope, it did not align. I also looked at the datapoint of the U.S.S. Comfort delivered to New York City under the grandest of media proclamations about impending medical doom, only to see the ship sit empty and completely unused despite the scale of the narrative that surround its purpose.
Lastly, and more obliquely, the datapoint of one of my heroes Franklin Graham assembling a NY field hospital to serve over 20,000 patients; another massive endeavor that sat empty and without use. However, prior to the hindsight, it was the in-real-time fight from officials in/around the area who tried to block Samaritans Purse from setting up the facility. If the SARS-CoV-2 issue was as great a threat as declared, then why would anyone fight to keep out a field hospital that could provide such relief. It just didn’t make sense.
Those issues, and others, formed the baseline of my inability to reconcile the key issue of ‘trust’ needed to believe in the vaccine. Additionally, I am healthy and not within any of the risk factors. However, I also feel strongly that each health decision is unique to the individual person, and everyone was making the best decisions for them based on the available information at the time; so, I carry no judgement for those who made a different choice.
As noted, I am bumping this to the top of the site so that our conversation can continue. Normally I would start a new thread, but this one is different. I don’t want to break the continuity and I want to provide everyone the ability to see they are not alone.
Love to all,
Sundance
Reader feedback request.
I was quite shocked to review a poll I took on the Twitter last month showing that 85% of the people who follow the CTH Twitter account [TLR2] did not take the COVID-19 jab.
Without any judgement implied or inferred I am genuinely curious, why not?
With the situation clearly in hindsight, and/or given all the pressure that may have been applied to each individual situation, I am genuinely curious what was it that made you choose not to take the COVID-19 vaccination.
If you are comfortable, and please understand that no pressure is intended in any way whatsoever, could you share why you didn’t take the vaccine and how do you feel about that decision in hindsight?
If you did take the vaccination, there is also no judgement in this question. As I said back in 2021 each individual is unique, each situation is unique, and each person has to make the best decision about what is in their individual best interests. So please, don’t let this issue divide our conversation.
I am genuinely curious as to the reason so many people would withstand the public and perhaps peer pressure to follow the ‘vaccination’ advice. Also, how has that decision impacted your life? Did you lose friends and family over your personal health decision? Did those relationships heal over time? Or anything else you might find pertinent to the general question.
Would you hold every single letter of anything anyone posts in answer to your question under strict confidence – never to be shared with anyone anywhere at any time???
Because why should anyone answer anything like this when they could be identified or people with their thought processes be identified so they could later be persecuted OR methods used to better coerce them at a later time for some other weaponized program??????????????????
Really?? Are you that scared? Guess you wont ever be Standing Up and fighting back when the time comes.
Probably got the shot
Wouldn’t tell you if I did, wouldn’t tell you if I didn’t.
Let me educate you:
Radio Research Group/grey dynamics
Time is now
Not scared for myself… scared for asking people who trust this site to openly share confidential information in a public forum only to have that information potentially turned against them later by those with evil intent.
We are dealing with an evil the world has never seen before at a time where surveillance, sensors, cameras computers, (etc. etc. etc.) and people in control / power positions can easily collect, store, then use that information to take action against you when the time comes to do so.
So this information should have been asked for and collected in complete privacy and with total confidence that the knowledge gained from it would never be used with harmful intent toward those who supplied it.
So Mz “Wearingsteelthatsbrightandtrue” you have no idea what’s planned and what’s coming, but the deaths are piling up already – loose lips will get you removed from the game. I will NOT stand up and fight back – I will use other tactics – smart ones.
I’m a firm believer in throwing diamond dust in the evil machine – AND REMAINING COMPLETELY ANONYMOUS EVERY TIME I DO IT.
Good thing George Washinton and the other patriots didn’t share your level of patriotism.
Robert, they didn’t have to deal with what we are up against and if you follow the old rules you will not make it:
Radio Research Group/grey dynamics
Yeah, sure you do. I haven’t seen much diamond dust lately, and your service provider knows every single keystroke you make, whether you choose to post it, or not.
If you’re posting here, you’re not anonymous
And why does this site want your home ADDRESS???
On your first point, yes a good remnder that as much as our CTH conversations feel like private chats among friends, this is also an online publc forum and as such noone is really anonymous.
At least as far as the government is concerned they do already know who is vaccinated. There is a vaccination database that one’s doctor can readily access to see whether or not a patient has been vaccinated.
On your second point, yes I wondered about that too. Would assume the usual suspects in gov’t are busily researching how to better manipulate those resistant to the vaccine push –not just about the vaccine. They’d want to know the thought processes of resisters for use in future campaigns on other issues.
On the other hand, it may be of interest and benefit for those of us who have been isolated as the only unvaxxed in our circles to hear and share our stories. For some reason I flash to stories I heard of North Korean prisoners of war tapping code on the walls of their cells to each other between brainwashing sessions with their captors.
We have withstood the most mammoth widespread use of gaslighting, propoganda, psychological warfare (brainwashing). We stood up to it and held our own . Knowing we are not alone and how and why we made our decisions is probably a balm and maybe answers our own questions of what other unvaxxed were thinking. I’m wondering if most unvaxxed would be difficult to hypnotize too.
“They’d want to know the thought processes of resisters for use in future campaigns on other issues”. Indeed. Tons of funding for researches and think tanks for that purpose have been going on since the beginning of the pandemic.
For decades TPTB have been trying to decifer why 20% of the population, a very diverse group regarding race, education and socio-economic status, are inmune to propaganda, cohercion and brain washing
I suspect they will never discover exactly why that remnant exists.
Maybe for the same reason that they would consider humans the measure of everything with no room for the transcendent.
Agreed 💯
For me it’s simple … I do not have to be burned to know I need to stay away from fire … do some of us accidentally get burned – yes … but I’d say 98% will never chose to be intentionally burned.
I am 79 years old. I have had a hip-replacement, a AAA, two stents inserted in my heart, 5 bypass surgeries to remove blood clots in my knees, and on and on. Probably $675K worth of treatment. Being a captive of the Veterans Administration, I was forced to take two Pfizer shots early in 2020. If I’d have refused, I would have lost all the benefits I earned through my VN service. I have refused any further treatment for Covid, but had to suffer through 3 more stick-up-my-nose Covid tests to continue to get my VA benefits. And it’s really hard to believe, but the VA still maintains the masking protocol.
People who don’t believe in God are unable to understand what makes believers tick. They just don’t get it, no matter how hard they try.
All we can do is pray for the Holy Spirit to open their eyes.
They also spent millions years ago trying to discover the source of a cat’s purr – and failed utterly. They were looking for a mechanism when it is an emotional state. They’ll NEVER figure it out – as psychopsths incapable or remorse or empathy, HUMAN BEINGS AND THEIR EMOTIONAL STATES WILL ALWAYS BE A MYSTERY THEY ARE INCAPABLE OF FEELING LET ALONE CONPREHENDING.
My skepticism came about at the age of 3 or 4. Since I was youthfully short, I would first notice every coin on the ground. My older brothers introduced me to a method of awarding any treasure: “Heads I win, tails you lose”. About the 4th time, I parsed it and realized my odds were zero. This was done to me by my own brothers. I was actually pleased with myself, telling myself that thinking is a really good tool.
I would think the common denominator would be faith in the Lord. I sometimes think after all the fear mongering throughout the past decade that Christ was directly speaking to us with his many statements of, “Fear Not”. I don’t fear the unknown I fear the ones pushing the fear and make my plans accordingly by putting my faith where it belongs to help absorb said fear.
There is little doubt in my mind a spiritual element is part of the explanation.
A well known experiment directed volunteers to apply increasingly powerful electric discharges to another group of subjects, if they failed resolving math calculations.
Many volunteers didn’t want to increase the intensity to dangerous, deadly levels, as they heard the screams (which of course were fake, like the electric current) of the other people. However, they caved in when scientist with a white lab coat showed up and pressured them to continue increasing the pain dial.
Only 20% of the subjects stood their ground, stubbornly refusing to follow directions from the “figures of authority”. And here comes the moral angle, for those of us that believe no human has the right to force us to break God’s laws, basic human decency.
“They’d want to know the thought processes of resisters for use in future campaigns …”
Thought processes and profile of resisters are people who recognize bullsh#t when they hear is and don’t fall for it
So true, and a functioning B.S. detector is another indicator of a genuine religious faith.
I am a Christian, Amish, Jehovah’s witness.
My bases are covered.
So what? They already know everything you look at on the net. They read your emails. There are no secrets. Lighten up Francis.
They don’t read it all – they have it stored for future use against you – and me – everyone. Get out of line though and they’ll absolutely focus people on reading it and then how to make an actionable case against you then take you out – if you’re a big enough threat.
It’s best to keep as much as possible close to the vest. Stay in the shadows. Give them as little as possible.
First, commenting / replying is entirely optional.
Second, you cant protect yourself or your society by hiding your views. That’s why the 1st amendment is 1st.
Third, I am personally highly resistant to today’s training to submit to experts/ authority. If that makes me a target, so be it. My trust lays in God.
First: Agreed – but why ask people to become a target by opening their mouth and spilling their position?
Second: You absolutely can protect yourself by keeping your opinion to yourself in the middle of a war with hostile enemies all around you.
Third: I’m a firm believer in God. It’s going to take God to help us defeat this enemy. I believe he absolutely will put this evil down, but timing will be determined by God not us. Staying smart is staying alive.
They already know who has taken it. Thus, who hasn’t. Not afraid of them. Never will be.
True, it’s all in a database. But databases don’t tell the whole picture. AND putting one’s entire faith into data leaves the door open for failure.
Radio Research Group/grey dynamics
I agree with some of your premise about caution. However if there is anyone left on this planet let alone a reader of this site, who doesnt realise that “they” are out to get “us”, I would like to meet them.
So anyone posting has free will and knowledge and doesn’t need your nannying.
Do you realise that you yourself in your remarks of caution have put a big target on your own back if “they” took notice?
Perhaps…but then again…
Radio Research Group/grey dynamics
This is “pur”fectly expressed!
LMFAO
You’re joking, yes?
Srsly? Doesn’t everyone obscure their true personae in all online comms?
You can’t have a long term safety profile without the ‘long term’.
and you certainly can’t have a warp speed expedited “inference” study when you SPIKE THE STUDY by allowing participants to then get the vacinne.
this DID happen.
Many people forget this small detail.
not only was the statistical sample size too small to begin with, BUT BEFORE THE TWO STUDIES IN 2020 even concluded, the participants were allowed to take the vacinne.
this effectively voids ANY scientific control and any evidence of safety and efficacy.
It is such an important issue that on one wants to discuss.
but I do.
Imagine what would happen if Boeing designed a modification to an aircraft, which arguably completely changes the flight characteristics…then lies to a complicit FAA and it kills almost 400 people in rapid succession.
don’t have to imagine it..IT HAPPENED.
the lesson here is clear: whether it is a rush to compete and make huge money, or direct fraud, when you are dealing with human life, there is no such thing as a short cut.
or people die.
its’ the same thing with mRNA..and before that gain of function virus “studies”.
eventually, the one thing happens…and people die.
also noting: there are two facilities KNOWN (probably more) that store active small pox virus.
the WHO was careful to use the phrase “eradicated”..the virus is not EXTINCT. It actually still exists.
the question: why would russia and the US continue to store small pox virus. A virus that if leaked out of those labs would literally kills so many people around the world that the entire human species would collapse back to the stone age?
God Bless America
That was the 737-MAX, was it not?
yes all 6 variants of the highly modified leap re-engined MCAS enabled boeing redesign of the B717 standard, quickly fast tracked by boeing and THE FAA AND WALL STREET to compete against the WILDLY SUCCESSFUL NEW AIRCRAFT DEVELOPED BY AIRBUS: the A320 NEO!
There was TRILLIONS AT STAKE.
it was a MONEY root cause. Boeing Executives and HOST of boeing engineers, test scientists, code writers, board members and key shareholders as well as every single FAA officials and FAA front line inspectors and engineers who looked at the real problems if the new flight characterists and decided to commit fraud because they realized they have developed an unsafe aircraft.
this bad faith series of mistakes where then blackholed to buyers globally, and also to the maintenance crews and pilots.
this bad redesign of what can be regarded as the safest commercial aircraft TYPE of all time led to the tragic deaths of almost 400 people in nearly identical flight modes that Boeing and FAA knew about.
This is how and why those people died.
a race to make money and protect a captive market leader.
God Bless America
Being untested and heavily pressured to get it was enough for me not to get it.
Exactly. If it was any good people wouldn’t have to be forced.
Or bribed. Ohio had the “Vax-a-Million.” Actually know some folks who ran to get jabbed in the hopes of winning. 🤦♀️
“It’s easier to fool people than to convince them they’ve been fooled.” Mark Twain
And instead got the booby prize.
OMG
Exactly..untested and mandated,,in NY,,WE moved to the mid west.
And have not looked back.
We moved to South Carolina from the libtard cesspool of NY in January 2001. Every time I hear that insane clown Governor Hockaloogie steal more freedoms from NY’ers I just snicker.
The warning bells ringing in my ears were worse than tinnitus.
I find it curious that so many otherwise healthy normal younger to mid aged adults are dying from sudden heart attacks
I had an eye doctor friend who passed away of a sudden heart attack early ’50s.
Yes he got the shot.
He also happened to save my friend who had a brain infection from a tumor. He was at a crappy hospital and he suggested that he be taken out of there and taken to the University of Penn where they found out he had a brain tumor. At the crappie hospital they put them on a ventilator, you know why, that paid 20 some thousand dollars.
Medical emergencies. The vocabulary has progressed.
Dr. Jane Ruby has been on the forefront of this, maybe her.
She has her own show on the stew peters network .
Rumble channel.
I did not take the shot. I was worried about the new technology and Covid was no more than a virus/cold/flu.
Our friends and family shamed us and would socialize in indoor settings. Those relationships are still awkward today and I expect them to become more awkward as the truth comes out and their health is at risk from the side effects! We pray for our friends that took them – we pray for their heath!
Would not socialize….
My son and daughter tried to shame me but I’m stubborn and have no shame. They gave up because I’m a “right winger” and strange. 🙄 I’m a black republican I’m used to it. I ignore them.
You go girl! Big respect.
I pondered how little, yet constant propaganda it really took for people to turn on us.
It started with President Trump and continued through the scamdemic .
People who have known us our whole lives were;
Separating from us and isolating us as the “other “.
calling for us to be imprisoned and forcibly injected.
Claiming we were the plague bringers.
We watched and lived the rise of “Hitler” in real time.
It shocked me to realize just how quickly the antichrist will gain power through followers and how easily they will sell us out.
As is written.
“As it is written,” indeed.
It’s becuz this is a Witchhunt and worse than Salem.
You go girl.
You go girl
💕
My aunt and uncle were against the vaxx… but when their daughter said she would not allow them to see her son — their grandchild– anymore unless they got vaxxed, they succumbed.
I have heard LOTS of such stories– people who got emotionally blackmailed into getting those damn shots. (The irony is that the grandkids were never even at risk from Covid.)
And of course, my poor aunt and uncle have been experiencing weird health problems ever since they got the shots.
My daughter in law didn’t require the covid shot, but demanded both my husband and I get 4 vaccinations to see our grandchild. We refused and never met our grandchild until after a year when she felt it was “safe” since the grandchild had gotten vaccinated and was “safe” from us. I will always think of her as a terrorist.
Imagine offering up your child as a lab rat. I’d call her a child abuser too.
I am the only unvaxxed in my my entire family…
For various reasons -travel, college, three knew better but did it anyway. They were reluctant but caved to social pressure…
I tried in vain to educate about risks … and when their post vax symptoms started, I was suddenly the font of all knowledge… and when they all got sick -as did I- they realized they were played.
Yes, I believe it was Omicron last winter that got the best of them. I’ll admit it was gratifying to see the look on all their faces when they realized their shots were absolutely worthless.
Here is why!
1. THE “VACCINE” IS NOT A VACCINE!
2.
Nor will I be falsely “vaccinated” for an engineered disease from Chinese Communists!
It’s starting to come out that this was D.O.D. with / under obama back in 2012.
We’ll see, here’s a link, I heard her being interviewed, former pharmaceutical executive.
https://sashalatypova.substack.com
Saw this video too. But I’d be careful. A lot of pure BS disinfo is very high quality. This info is either true and highly disturbing or it’s another instance of high quality disinfo. You just dont know.
I’d also contrast this with with similar reporting from George Webb and The Duke Report, particularly with respect to trustworthiness of Robert Malone. Malone never inspired trust in me, despite being an authority on mRNA technology. More recently, I’ve noticed Webb interacting with Stew Peters, of self-assembling graphene spider fame, which definitely sends up a red flag.
Bottom line for me, there’s smoke here. The problem is there’s a Russian national source on one side and sketchy personalities and reporting on the other. Hard to have trust in either source, especially when they confirm pre-existing biases.
I am highly suspicious of the pandemic and do have a biased thought that it was caused by the US govt. Ft Detrick, DOD funding of ECO Health Alliance, the history of patents, the instant vax, the Orwellian response to the pandemic, the timeline anomalies, the NYT open discussion by ex-DOD officials of a coup to remove Trump, the miraculous / fortuitous timing of the pandemic for the Trump haters, the efforts by our favorite guy from Perkins-Coie to implement mail-in voting, the failure of Russia-Collusion/ Ukraine impeachment, endless rioting, Hunter laptop, and the most amazing post election disinformation campaign ever seen…. all that just says to me the pandemic was no lab leak accident. I am biased to think it was intentional, but very wary of the BS our intel folks throw out to hide what they do.
Sasha Latypova is not a Russian national. She was born in Ukraine and has lived in the U.S. for many years. I thinks she is a U.S. citizen.
It’s a handy way to discredit her.
muh ruSSia
Thanks. I stand corrected. To me, given all the disinfo flowing out of Ukraine during the Trump admin, this makes her nationality somewhat more relevant.
I just think it pays to be highly skeptical of any sources that confirm your existing biases, so you have to keep your biases in the fore and turn your skepticism up to max.
The intel people have created a world in which nothing can be taken at face value.
What Russian national do you speak of?
I would NEVER suggest to anyone not to listen to someone just because they were on so and soes show, nor that they shouldnt just because I dont like them. I have learned over the past few years that even those who you would label controlled opposition, are worth listening to. Many of them ARE actively out there getting word out about this corruption. Thats a good thing despite their ties to Globalists. Its simply a matter of using your own discernment as to wether or not you can do that taking what truths they may give you and simply ignoring what you know to be incorrect. Malone is actively doing what he can to get the truth out about these mRNA gene therapy injections. I respect him for that.
You got it right re where the injections originated…I believe Moderna shipped the “vaccine” late December 2019 from Fort Detrick for the Warp-Speed project. The Lab Leak theory is a coverup. It was made in the USA with Wuhan Lab intervention when the good scientists opposed the GOF research. Obama even partly funded the Wuhan building. Look into the Leibner case. The name that should be out there as a traitor to your country is RALPH BARIC. The docs are all over Pubmed and Nature 2009-2015. although thesedays they have posted all over them that they are nothing to do with any conspiracy theory lol
Don’t kid yourself about China, covid was made in a lab in the good old USA.
I can only imagine what kind of worse viruses they have.
🙂 The PANGOLIN did it with the candlestick in the wet market 🙂
Pangolins should’ve known better than to mess with bats.
As I recall, Obama handed off that virus to China, right before President Trump’s inauguration. He pretended it was too dangerous to continue the research on US soil, when in fact he knew it would continue elsewhere, away from prying eyes, in Chinese and Ukrainian bioweapons labs.
Obama also handed off control of the internet to a foreign entity.
My decision had nothing to do with CTH. I never get vaccinated when a vaccine first comes out. I researched mRNA and the way it was explained sounded like gene therapy. Then people who cautioned against it got banned and censored. The last straw was typing a search for COVID and twitter would reroute to their own links. I decided no way in hell because they were hiding something. I don’t like to be forced. I stocked up on HCQ and Ivermectin and they worked for me.
People have to be very cautious nowadays with something else is being pushed by most of the medical community.
Monoclonal antibodies and if you break that word down it’s basically single clone antibodies which are now making peoples body dependent on something that is cloned from other people or mice or rabbits.
I tend to think Mabs did save lives early on. FL seemed quite successful with them, and when the Biden admin started redistributing them in the name of equity, it sort of reinforced that belief.
Yes. alldaychemist is a great source for IVM and HCQ. I have them “just in case”.
Red Flags everywhere. Spidey-senses said no
No, Hell No! 😉 There you go Joe Dan, –FIFY
LOVE YOUR SHOWS!!!!
Thanks for your programs, which are a wickedly hilarious comment on current main stream culture.
Alex Jones was right!
Rock it Joe Dan!
I think we’re cousins. 😎
Keep on keeping’on Joe Dan. You rock!
Great to see you ‘cuz! Hope all is well with you. Heart-breaking to hear about your Aunt Jean. I’m sure she’ll still be watchin’ and laughing! 😉 BD
The multinational pharmas got held harmless from liability, on a faux vaccine that likely killed my sister. The politicians got kickbacks. No sale.
Now that millions upon millions refused to take it they will now be injecting our food supply which is now in the works.
Good reason to pull back from the mainstream
Food has labeling requirement. I remember many years ago, Iowa Beef, had a large recall. Their stock crashed and a much smaller Tyson foods bought them, Food sources don’t want the risk of illness and recalls.
If I eatsome bad food, I will get the runs in 36 hours. Does a food source want to worry about sickness for 36 months?
Nope!
That was a debate I had with then Congressman John Rattcliff over. He said we the people had no need or right to know what was in our food when they voted on and passed what we called the DARK Act.
They decided that one years ago while people were sleeping unaware of how their representatives were representing them.
No worries, Congress is working up an exemption for them.
Time to become a vegetarian and grow your garden. God help us!
in 1992 a created bacteria, Paenibacillus popilliae, was introduced into the USA to fight the Japanese Beetle and it worked. It took decades to realize that it was killing our honeybees, which our orchards and other crops depend on as pollinators. Now they are introducing a new “vaccine” to honey bees to kill this bacteria. I will stock up on honey and await the new wave of tragedies.
I read by a poster that they’re injecting cows in her state with covid shot . Don’t know which state.
Puzzled how you are shocked by this poll result. It seems to me that most readers measure in the libertarian spectrum.
in the “reason” and “I will not be subject to dubious state mandates” spectrum.
I know plenty of so called liberatarians who took the jab and actively promoted it.
this was NOT a political issue to a reasonable human being.
but it was MADE to be a political debate for sure.
I didn’t bite.
when ANY central state starts trying to influence health choices…
RUN! no matter what color, religion, political group, or heritage that you relate.
jmho
God Bless America
When Naomi Wolf and Bret Weinstein are against the jab, you’re right, it isn’t purely a right left issue.
I listen to Bret and Heathers podcasts. Truly pleasant well thought out articulated scientific discussions
Retired, both of us & very much in tuned in politics & the govt in general.Some things just did not add up from the beginning.No tamiflu type meds that may help,ivermectin dismissed,we keep chickens,horses,peafowl & have some of these meds for the animals(yeah horse paste).we decided to hold off on shot & read as much as possible & nothing to us made much sense.
I saw the suppression of hydroxychloroquine after President Trump’s touting it and later that year learned about ivermectin from many different sources. That caused me to think that Big Pharma and governmental health authorities were holding back on effective treatments so they could sell shots (and in the case of government the whole Great Reset seemed to be behind it.) The clinical trials were rushed. I was recently retired so was not mandated. Most importantly, at 63 and in good health and access to treatments, I knew Covid was of little danger to me. I had no fear, so no shot for me.
Ditto for me!
also…I lost my job in April 2022 after my company created its own vaccine mandate…Being 60+ yrs old, it has been near impossible to find a similar job and pay…..and I am still unemployed to this day…..
Sue them. The EUA plainly states it must be voluntary. Of note, there is an EUA for Masks also, and it is the same. Use must be voluntary.
Joey Dee,
Maybe this will help? You may find some legal thoughts within
https://home.solari.com/forms/
I’ll start. I have no comorbidities and I no longer work in the public arena. I’m not around elderly people nor young children. All cold viruses and flu viruses are coronaviruses. I used to get a flu shot every year and only got flu ONCE – the year “covid” broke out. So….. why bother?
The whole thing never passed the “smell” test with me.
The three letter government agencies were out to get President Trump at all costs. When covid hit – it just was all too convenient for the unelected bureaucrats hand in hand with a lot of globalists wanting to crush him because it hurt their bottom line.
I didn’t trust my government before but if it’s even possible, I trust them even less after covid.
Why on earth listen to them 24/7 tout a medical product that had to be injected into every single person’s arm? As I said, didn’t pass the smell test. Never in my life had anything like that ever happened.
Same here and with many others I suspect.
Absolutely no trust in any of the ” authorities ‘ .
Then and now.
I might add that that was at the VERY beginning of this mess – after 3 years of my GP pounding me to get the jab…. she’s given that mission up.
Mine too
My internist has zero problem with my choice not to take the jab. He used to be a bit edgy that I wouldn’t take the flu, pneumococcus, or shingles vaccines. Now he seems fine that I want none of that.
Bless him.
My GP gave up on me long ago since I wouldn’t take any of the vaccines she was pushing. She doesn’t even ask me to take them anymore.
My GP wanted to know why I refused to take it, I just told her if God decided it was my time no shot was going to make a difference.
Reminds me of a story about my grandmother. Grandma had breast cancer in her early seventies. She quit taking one of her meds . It made her sick. Her doctor told her ,if you don’t take your meds you might die. Grandma told him I’m seventy six and a widow. I have lived a good life and if it’s time for to go , then I will go. Grandma made it ninety four years old. I guess she didn’t need the meds.
Because of who was ordering it, that’s why. Any push out of a Hollywood actor will automatically trigger resistance in me. Plus I hated Fauci taking over Trump’s podium and demanding closures. That was enough for me.
my pawpaw have me lots of great advice..timeless advice that anyone can apply to nearly everything.
“never take a propositional bet”.
he lived thru two great wars, a depression and lived free and built and associated with a great community of christians.
he was wise and his advice has never failed me.
“never take a propositional bet”.
(hey mister, wanna buy a watch?)
God Bless America
I work from home (I am a pastry chef) and don’t have to leave the house except to get supplies.
My husband and daughter were going on a trip to Florida at the beginning of the pandemic, so they both got vaccinated to fly.
The more I started hearing about the “vaccination” the less I wanted to get one.
To this date, I have not had Covid, a Covid test. I almost feel like I am jinxing myself by saying that.
Everyone I know pretty much got vaccinated and most of them have had Covid at least once since being vaccinated. Including children. They have also had other illnesses that possibly could be related to being masked up for 2 years and not getting immunity from other bugs.
I am trying really hard not to say to them “I told you so”.
They want Americans weak and sick so when they send in the Islamic and African barbarians, the blood spills easier. It’s pogrom time. Just as the Rothschild sponsored artist, Cleon Petersen likes to paint in his giant murals.
http://www.cleonpeterson.com/
I have ODS and dig in when facing force of any kind. I also have zero trust after the last few years, including medical. So I am a hard pass on it
Monica,
ODS – Oppositional Defiance Syndrome?
I thought it was ODD – O.D. Disorder…
Whatever works for pushing back on those who push to hard. Lol
I know a Lot of ODD Persons. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I felt sure that mRNA would alter my DNA and since this is God’s blueprint for my body, I believed it would be an abomination to Him.
“I was quite shocked to review a poll I took on the Twitter last month showing that 85% of the people who follow the CTH Twitter account [TLR2] did not take the COVID-19 jab.”
There are two ways that one could be shocked by a number that high.
ordinarily, I resist confidence with ANY polls. But in this case, I have high confidence considering who these people are and how they have conducted themselves.
you know the best poll is? when people tell you what they think and how they choice WITHOUT even being asked !!
and that is something I value HIGHLY..and CTH treepers have never failed to be very open and honest about who they are and what they stand for.
It is quite remarkable.
God Bless America
I didnt take it because 1) there was no need to be protected against COVID…i dont take flu shots either, and 2) it had not been tested in any serious way…it normally takes many years to get a drug approved. Everything about how covid was handled was obviously wrong…from masks to rushing vaxxes. Masks dont work on viruses, the govt knew that, but still pushed it. Never trust govt. never
1. I heard Judy Mikovits in January of 2021 and she said 13% of the population cannot process their own MRNA very well and end up with chronic inflammation. She said the shot has artificial mRNA which will be very difficult for the body to process. I have a tendency toward inflammation but not a full blown condition but did not want to push my luck.
2. I did not want my body to be part an experiment. Already cautious with vaccines and drugs. I’ve never had a flu shot.
3. There several several things in the shot never been put into a human body before. No idea what it would do – no thanks.
It was not a vaccine, it was an mRNA jab. I took zoology in college long ago. mRNA runs all functions within all cells, I didn’t want anything to do with an unproven and untested substance that contains mRNA. What if it altered the mRNA in your organs and caused your inherent mRNA to change.
Plus I no longer trust Pharma, and my trust in doctors is at an all time low. My cardiologist wanted me to take a “stress test” 48 hours after I ran a half-marathon in 98 degree heat and 91% humidity. The reason being he wanted it in my file to cover his butt.
I went to the Louisiana legislature on December 6, 2021 where they discussed the childhood vaccine mandate. I took away two things: 1) there was no free and honest discussion. 2)there has never been a factual report on that hearing.
I have never taken a flu shot or any other shot. I have a great immune system and have always been generally healthy (few colds, etc.). When the vax came out my husband and I took a “let’s just wait” approach. We don’t know why. We have discussed it. We weren’t “anti vax” but were not afraid of Covid. It was a mutual decision. Based on no research just on our gut. I do believe that God touched us with his hand away from the vax.
I thank God every day he allowed us to trust him to show us the way….
Our family thought we were nuts and tried to convince us the error of our ways. We stood firm. Again, thank you Lord…
I had COVID in NOV of 2020, before the vaccine was available. I had my blood drawn and tested for SARS-COV2 antibodies in JAN of 2021. I was extremely leary of what I was reading on alt sites about the vaccine and had literally zero reason to take it so I did not. I was nearly compelled by a couple of contract employers but I dallied and dodged until the compliance orders were lifted. Smart decision in retrospect.
Yes very smart. I do not have the citations at hand any more, but several credible alt researchers had findings that for people who had been infected with COVID and survived it, which most of us did, they would experience much worse problems if they then went and got the COV vaccines. Plus getting the infection naturally would provide life long immunity – as long as no vaccine for COV ever.*** The fact that “legit” people like Fauci never even touched on this subject after Mar 2020, made me even leerier of getting the vaccine.
Well, actually you can get Covid again — new variants come along since viruses are always evolving– BUT, it probably won’t be nearly as bad a case, since your natural immune system has gotten previous experience with something very similar and already fought it off once, so now it “knows” how to fight it.
This is exactly what happened to me. Very bad case of Covid in September 2021 (Delta, I assume), then a much, much milder case (about like a bad cold) in late July 2022 (Omicron, I assume). The difference was like night and day, it was so much milder.
But the thing is, I know people who were vaxxed and boosted who also got Omicron about the same time, late-summer 2022… and they got really, really sick — despite that they’re way younger, leaner, and more physically fit than me. It’s a shame they screwed up their natural immune systems by getting the damn vaxx!!
Main reason is because early on I realized covid was a manufactured fake crisis designed to remove the rightful President and manipulate election results going forward. There are Many others reasons why like the ones depicted on the sign below. Not to mention an illegitimate, unelected, mentally unstable, fake President was trying hard to force me to take it.
EASY Decision based on facts and principle
As a matter of fact, I just learned today my wifes father was diagnosed with a rare inoperable cancer I never heard of before. We told them all along not to believe the lies about getting it.
Also,
Since they used “died with Covid“, even if the death clearly wasn’t related to the virus, we should be able to use “died with vaccine” as a meaningful metric.
Fair Enough right? especially when its blatantly obvious an unusual number of healthy people are literally dropping dead.
Son’s GF diagnosed with *rare* blood cancer – maybe 6 months after jab. I do NOT bring the jab up to him!
Your son is smart enough to connect the dots on his own. I have a feeling
wow, if we’re spilling the beans here, my ex husband’s lady-friend (in her 70’s) developed a rare head and neck cancer that only aids patients get. Her gay brother noticed the bruises on her neck and recognized them. chemo is torment and it broke my heart to hear her say she was perfectly healthy till that shot. People believing they are doing their public duty.
Exactly – coupvid!
Prayers for your FIL and family.
Thanks. Update: Stage 4
Glioblastoma?
Im waiting for the official.
I had forgotten about those exemptions! So many reasons not to submit to that crap vax. Astonishing and disturbing to me that so many fell for it. As much as I cherish the concept of democracy, this situation makes me understand why the other side lusts for it power. All this points out the criticality of maintaining the concept of self determination.
Signs of the Dem/Marxists go-to “never let a crisis go to waste” were there from the first societal shutdown in March 2020, which caused me and others to have a deep skepticism about all of it. Having been a local govt watchdog for many years in a “progressive” city, I could see right away what the overreaction to the pandemic was meant to do. Frighten, isolate, remove people’s ability to gather/protest, undermine family/friend circles, change laws to advantage the Dem/Marxists, etc. CA’s Gov Gavin Newsom announced at the outset of shutdowns that more than half the state’s population; i.e., 25 MILLION PEOPLE, would be infected with the virus, which, at the time, if you all remember, was tantamount to saying that 25 MILLION in CA would DIE, and Newsom certainly meant to imply that would be the outcome. This scared the innards out of most people, the fear hypnotized them, and they would do anything the Gov and his minions said thereafter. When the hypnosis started to wear off, there would be another scare from our “leadership,” which acted as a post-hypnotic suggestion to make everyone sheep again. Scary stuff —- later known as “Mass Formation” or “Mass Psychosis.” (As you know.)
I , and my husband, neither of us took the jab. Primarily because we are healthy (he is almost 62 and I just turned 64) and are on no meds, and rely on our own immune systems. FYI we are carnivores which we believe ketogenic diet is the best path to total health. We never take the flu shots either. Our son did have to take the jab because he works in the medical field and it was required. I don’t know which he took but he had no ill effects. Plus honestly we felt it was a scam. The whole plandemic and the vaccines.
Because at one point in my career, I was a chemist in a pharma lab, and I knew that there was no way this “vaccine” went through all the testing it needed before coming to market.
Then add to that the fact manufacturers were granted complete immunity from side effects that included DEATH, and the fact that I likely already had COVID and recovered I just said I’ll wait and see.
And during the time I wanted to wait and see, I saw how hard this serum was being pimped by our government, by our media, my employer, and pop culture, I was convinced this was no damn good.
Pretty much every day I’m reminded I made a wise choice. Sadly, I’m the only member of my family that hasn’t taken it, and that includes practically all of my extended family.
As you say, ‘I saw how this …was being pimped by our Government’, and I also could see that this was similarily being pushed all around the world, by beastly governments; so I concluded it must be THE MARK OF THE BEAST !!!
Some believed in their minds it was the right thing to do, (the mark on the forehead),
And some who did not believe, just went along it, (the mark on the hand).
Of my family of 35, only one daughter-in-law, and myself have not had the jab !!!
I am 79 years old. If I feel a throat tickle, or get a sniffle, or think I have been exposed, I start taking Ivermectin, Vitamin C, Vitamin D3, Quercetin, and Zinc.
So far that has worked out fine for me.
If I feel a throat tickle, or get a sniffle, or think I have been exposed, I start taking Ivermectin, Vitamin C, Vitamin D3, Quercetin, and Zinc.
Every one of us in my family does the EXACT same thing, D! Every.single.time!
Good view of westbound I-70 in Colorado.
I am semi-retired Engineer capable of analyzing limited data (including sorting out the BS), living on the Western Slope in Colorado, Grand kids are very close by, Very little reason to fly anywhere. The threats were not convincing.
Mrs. Boebert is my representative.
a genuine distrust in government and the veracity of their pronouncements led me to do heavy review and research into anything they advocated…….there was enough evidence at the time the “vaccines” were launched to place doubt in the claims of their efficacy and ability to do what they said it was capable of doing
it certainly did not help with their sustained campaign against Invermectim and Hydrochlorochine along with propaganda attacks and cancel culture attacks on medical community members who did not follow their official narrative…..it is ALWAYS a dangerous path to tread when the official one is the only one allowed without exploration allowed for the efficiency of any other
I figured if the same government that had a hand in unleashing the virus was also providing the “treatment,” that could never be in my best interest.
45 year endurance runner…even though I was 66 at the time, I knew my lung capacity was far stronger than people decades younger than me. That, coupled with my desire to have natural immunity, drove my decision to forsake the “jab”.
I didn’t get the clot shot because I didn’t want to be a lab rat.
Instead we chose to be the much needed control group.
There wasn’t time to collect & extrapolate significant data speaking to long, mid, & short-term effects.
There were people & professionals shut down & canceled for questioning and/or providing information on other mitigating therapies. This is the opposite of science.
The unrelenting campaign to convince & pressure people to take it was so weird. Doughnuts, cash, etc. Every push to get it had the opposite effect.
In hindsight, I don’t think I would have given any of my children any vaccine ever.
My overall trust in health care providers is gone. I realize some were at risk of losing their jobs, but I don’t care. Pushing this was wrong.
“My overall trust in health care providers is gone”.
Yep.
Too much pressure for everyone to get vaxxed with a non- vaccine that had very little if any testing. Anything the govt pressures me to take I’m going to bow up on.
I didn’t get the covid experimental gene therapy Because I’m intelligent and know what science is. I also know politics and evil. Our battle is not against flesh and blood.
I got COVID really early on. I would give blood and they would test it for the antibodies (until they figured that people were using the donation as seeing if they had the antibodies). Since I had the antibodies I could not understand why I would get a shot. I have always believed natural immunity is better than anything that man could make.
I refuse to take any prescription, vaccine, or medical treatment that is less than 10 years-old. I figure ten years is enough time for the class action lawsuits, terrible headlines, and drug recalls to come out and let us know whether the drug is actually safe or not. Following this general rule of thumb may very well have saved my life…again.
The vax manufacturers put in a law prohibiting future lawsuits. If that’s not telling, I don’t know what is.
All redundant commie groups (DC, Hollywood, WEF, etc.) were all aligned. Whenever this happens, your only option is to run!
The whole “push” was extremely suspect.
When in your lifetime did you ever experience the non-stop “news” or the nitwits in Hollyweird push you do get a medical treatment.
And SD, I would be curious to know the people who for whatever reason were compelled to get the first shot, ended up getting a second and third boosters (if they were no longer compelled).
What I am seeing is the fear makes them double down on stupid. If they let any doubts creep in it absolutely terrifies them that they may have been mis-led. They much prefer echo chambers to reasoned analysis.
Whether pre or post jab, fear is hindering their critical thinking skills.
I did not take the shot because I am a Vietnam veteran with agent orange problems the government didn’t care about the veterans then what would convince me now it is any different the same bunch of corrupt fools in DC are running things many of my fellow veterans have died from complications from this doing the same thing over and over with the same results is not what I deem smart I haven’t survived combat by being stupid in my 82nd year wake up people
Danang66
I have been in the healthcare field for over 40 years and knew this was not a vaccine no matter how much they wanted to spin it. With the rush to get it out into the masses, combined with the egregious lockdowns as well as how we treated patients the the redemsivir protocol and not offering the other tried and true clinical treatments, I knew something was horribly wrong.
I also work in healthcare but was forced to take it or lose my job. Of course you can be exempted but I didn’t feel like lying for the exemptions. I was not in a position financially to lose my career in my state, so I took the vaccine and have had no side effects. If not for the mandate, I would NOT take it. It’s no longer mandated here in New Jersey and I think they’re scared because of how many people left healthcare.
I wasn’t eligible until 18 months after the pandemic began, which was 15 months after being told to hug chinamen and 14 months after I’d caught the bug , survived and come to the conclusion it was a nutritional problem. By the time I was eligible, I’d realised that the companies who created the vaccines all had sketchy history/conflicted interests and our leaders had demonstrated gross incompetence at every turn. There was zero data regarding safety and by that point the most ardent vaccine enjoyer was a type I’d met before and had zero respect for. I still can’t think of a single reason why I would volunteer to be the guinea pig.
I don’t believe that it was gross incompetence.; it was by plan.
Exactly. How many news stations were “Brought to you by Pfizer”?
I had covid before the vax came out so I wasn’t a candidate. I was under a mandate to take it or be fired, but I still didn’t take it.
I see all the traditional dividing lines between people (left/right, rich/poor, black/white etc), this vax seems to have revealed another hidden divide. People who I thought would line up to take it were like ‘hell no’, and people who I thought would see right thru this were lining up at first dawn on day one to get it.
Interesting times….
Yes it has been odd to find that the same people who wouldn’t eat a grape out of a fruit salad unless you could prove it was organic, somehow convinced themselves that this untried, untested experimental med was okay to put inside their bodies.
Very bizarre.
Another great signal I had forgotten… forgetting about natural immunity and insisting on vaxing was the absolute height of this insanity.
You’re so right —- MOST of very well-established epidemiology was ignored. Including that viruses weaken as they mutate. Instead, where I live at least, every new Covid “variant” was not a weakened version but (they said, ominously) possibly more dangerous than ever —- in order to further scare-push the vaccine.
You make a great point that many many people reacted in uncharacteristic and unpredictable ways. The Covid era revealed so much in that way, too, which is rarely mentioned.
I never took the shot. I am wary of medical interventions at the best of times, and I did not believe the claims of safe and effective for something so new. When they further claimed it was safe for pregnant women, I knew they were lying – I couldn’t even take a gravol when I was suffering from terrible “morning” sickness. The daily news reports of “healthy” people dying from Covid were, to me, outright propaganda. I lost my in class teaching job, as my small college woudn’t allow the unvaxxed on the premises, and my extended family gave me nothing but grief. I don’t regret a thing.
Yes! A brand new technology, rushed to market with inadequate testing and little no history of long term safety issues, being pushed on pregnant women and babies(!) was just a huge red flag.
I wasn’t comfortable taking something so new. Yes, lost a few friends, some coming back, some not. Had Covid over the summer, mild to moderate cold. Anything forced on to us by the government gives me the creeps, stay out of our personal lives!!
Anybody who gave it half a thought could see that the risks outweighed the potential benefits. Then, if you knew — as many or most of us did — that the refusal to treat people with proven therapeutics meant there was another agenda, an agenda by people who had been systematically destroying our culture, well, then you knew it was double trouble.
My family and I did not take the CoVid gene therapies (aka “vaccines”) because I am a free thinking physician myself who hasn’t trusted the CDC, FDA or NIH for the last 5 or so years. After researching all prior coronavirus phase 2 animal trials and noting the failed results of those, I KNEW that a rushed “gene therapy” would also fail in humans. The second the huge “SAFE and EFFECTIVE” push became public, I knew there was NO WAY to have adequately determined long term adverse events. It was all a big LIE from the beginning.
Instincts … Never , Ever second guess , your initial instincts …
That is exactly why I didn’t take it. It was a gut instinct and I never wavered. My immediate family felt the same way. I’m so thankful.
Yep.
Corona viruses have been rapidly evolving for a long time, which is why there’s no vax for the common cold. Wondered early why this issue was never discussed.
My gut instinct at the beginning of the pandemic was it was political operation. I don’t make medical decisions based on politics. The following 2 years I continued to follow my instincts, despite my own doctors advice to take the vax.
I would like to respond with HELL NO!
The same group of dopes that told us all about WMD in Iraq, the Orange Revolution in Ukraine, the Arab Spring in the ME and of course the need for the shot.
I do not get a flu shot. Have not ever, will not ever. WHY would I take this?
Some of my friends are on the other spectrum of politics. I politely remind them…My Body, My Choice.
I haven’t took a Flu vaccine in 25 years I sure as he’ll was taking a modified gene shot!!
Did not want to take experimental shots with new, not thoroughly tested, gene therapy technology. Chose to wait to see more info. Most important, I was not in fear of COVID once I learned about early treatment options.