I caught the disease in the first wave, and spent quite a bit of time extremely pissed off that I was being locked down to protect me from a disease that I already had developed immunity to. (And which did not present a statistically significant risk to me in the first place.)

It was also blindingly obvious that the government and media were blatantly lying and trying to panic people in ways they published statistics directly contradicted.

By the time the vax came out, I was not in a trusting mood.
Then came the hard sell. A hard sell is almost never used if something is genuinely in my interest. This is especially the case when the proponents can’t, or won’t, answer basic questions.
When my doctor pushed it, I asked her why I’d want it, since I wasn’t at risk and already had immunity. She just stood there stunned for about a third of a minute, and then admitted she had no idea why I should get it.

Then there were the risks that nobody would address. At the time they were largely unknown, but inevitably present. On the little bit of information available, I guessed that the likelihood of significant side effects from the vax was at least ten times higher than the risks the disease posed.

Of course it didn’t help that some of the people involved in the creation of the vax had publicly made statements about using the cover of a vaccine for population control. I wasn’t buying into that conspiracy theory, but after the evidence of the prior dozen years, I wasn’t ruling it out, either.

Yes, there have been significant stains in my immediate family from my refusal to just “go along” and “listen to the experts”.

Experimental, trying to bribe you, and good alternative media sources said covid wasnt much worse than a normal flu. Plus worked in factory whole time with 500 employees no changes, masks, etc, and 1 guy got it and was back a couple weeks later. He was late 60s smoked 2 packs a day, and had heart attacks.

I researched for about 8-12 hours a day, reading only from what I judged to be reputable sources. Then, I filtered the information again by thinking long and hard.

I ALSO read some very convincing materials on Zero Hedge. One was from A Nobel Prize winner in either Science or Medicine. He said that there was NO WAY COVID had come from nature. That it had to have been created in a lab, because it had 2 components within it – HIV, to make it more fatal, and CORONA VIRUS, to make it more contagious!

That one or the other of the components would kill the animal before it could spread a disease.

Another factor I considered was that one member of my family has two auto immune diseases. The jabs were highly recommended for anyone with auto immune disease, or who had an auto immune person in their family.

I read that, when it came time for the rheumatologists (the doctors who work with auto immunity), to vote at the top of the organization for whether or not, they should highly recommend their patients take the jabs, the vote was tied. The tiebreaker came from the CDC, who also had a person voting.

A family member who is a VA patient was encouraged to get the jabs, and they got the initial two Moderna jabs, but that was all. No one else in the immediate family got the jabs.

None of us who opted not to get the jabs, has regretted it a single moment! As far as we can tell, the one who received the two jabs has had no side effects from it.

I assembled medications and supplements after reading the FLCCC‘s recommendations, and also after reading the information that Ann Barnhardt provides on her website for the safe use of liquid ivermectin taken orally.

I haven’t had a flu shot in years – not since I discovered that in a good year it gave 10%-15% protection.

When the Covid scare started I was at the ACC Basketball Tournament with my 92 year old dad, my daughter, and my nephew. I thought from the beginning that canceling this and other tournaments was a total over-reaction. I was also really pissed because this was probably the last ACC Tourney I’d get to attend with my dad after 45 years of our spring break trips!

When the “vaccine” rolled out in such a short time I knew it was bull. I worked as a Pharmacist Tech for ten years during high school and college, earned a Master’s degree in Exercise Physiology and I think I have enough of the type of background to figure out that all other vaccines took a minimum of 10-15 years research and testing to even be considered. There was No Way I would let anyone put this garbage in my system!

I was really upset when my husband and daughter who lives with us chose to get the first two shots – they said they researched it and felt comfortable with their decision. They never gave me a hard time for not getting it.

The next year my other daughter and her family weren’t yet “eligible” for the clot shot and they let me visit them although keeping distance and wearing masks. That was the last visit with my 3yr old grandson until he was five. My daughter was pregnant with her second at the time and as soon she could she and her husband got the shot. I haven’t prayed so hard in years as I did for that baby. My granddaughter was born healthy but when I asked about visiting (even masked and distanced) I was told in no uncertain terms not unless I got the shot.

I asked what was different from my earlier visit and got two reasons: —At that time the shots weren’t available and —Since the shot was now available she was quite angry that I wasn’t willing to protect myself in order to see them. I cared more about being “scared” to take the shot than seeing them.

Her husband’s brother died suddenly that fall (2021) with no cause of death ever found and as far as I know the shot was never considered as a contributing factor. For sure I wouldn’t voice the possibility but we all know…he was in his early 40’s.

Finally, in the spring of 2022 my daughter called me and said we could all work something out for me to see them; since Covid seemed to be here to stay. They visited us in June and when I opened the front door she handed my 9 month granddaughter to me like nothing ever happened. Nothing was mentioned again and I have since visited them three times; I’m thrilled to see my grandchildren but I can’t forget the two years with no contact.

Some of my nieces are pure bloods but I think everyone else on all sides of my family had the shot, including my five year old grandson. When folks ask why I won’t get it I feel like telling them someone needs to be available to take care of all the sick and/or dying in the next few years.

I take Ivermectin once a week as well as Quercetin, Zinc, and Vitamin D daily. I got my first cold in four years this summer and have had no sniffles even since.

I am thankful that no one besides my daughter has really questioned my decision at all but I don’t say much about it unless I am asked.

For me, I got the China virus coincidentally, about 2 weeks after those infected cruise ship passengers that weren’t allowed to dock anywhere else out of fear arrived at lackland AFB here in San Antonio.
Only to be immediately allowed off base without any public warning, giving them unfettered access to our unsuspecting community.

The jab hadn’t been created yet, and Since I already possess ACTUAL antibodies for the China virus, and I also had witnessed the total corruption of our system.

From big pharma and the government, to social media’s blackout of anyone asking questions of our trusted career employees.

I watched the medical community completely destroy it’s own credibility and watched how churches abandoned their followers in their most desperate time of need rather than put GOD’s word before the word of man.

I watched how schools, stores and most private businesses and companies completely surrendered their own interests, the future of their employees jobs and even the respect of their customers to the latest unconstitutional edict from someone lacking the legal authority to infringe on our personal freedoms, by eagerly becoming the official government’s enforcement tool by punishing anyone that won’t comply with the latest declaration from the almighty government.

And I watched the way that our government’s information, facts and recommendations on the China virus evolved almost daily as a way of officially confirming the necessity for the loss of freedoms that the P.T.B had already seized from it’s own people around the “free” world.

The last time I was vaccinated was right before shipping out to basic training in 82.

Will I ever take another vaccination?

No, I have seen the matrix in action for so many years that I have become unable not to see it.

I have been anti vax since 1995 when my first child was born, luckily I have worked places that don’t require conformity.

No childhood vaccination is the greatest gift a parent can give

I like most people here, had read “lots of bad things” about the Vaccines. I am 69 now & after Sundance had posted that the chances of a teen dying of Covid 19 & me dying of it, was only about .003%.

I got to know a woman in Florida, thru her YT Videos & wanted to propose to her, but I thought that the Border was closed from Canada, because of Covid19. Then I heard a local woman on the radio, say that she just got back from visiting the US. She said that if you have your 1st shot, then you are allowed to cross the Border.

I was “humming & hawing” about taking the shot & then a Greek friend, said “that you only live once & I may regret not taking the shot”. So, I went to a Walmart Pharmacy & got that 1st shot. My shoulder ached a little for a week or so, but then it went away. I got the 2nd shot in Florida, but I didn’t get the Booster Shot.

This was Fall 20/Winter21, & with the occasional “sniffles” associated with a cold, I don’t feel any different than before.

AND, I personally don’t know of ANYBODY my age, that died of Covid19, so I know that I “was right all along” when I said it was nothing but a “Big Hoax”!

They were not exactly clever about this being a scam. My first suspicions arose when there was no consequences toward China that this was something I wanted to wait out. I also had not even gotten mildly sick by time the vaccine was available, so I was 100% certain I didn’t need it. They were pushing too hard. They wanted those of us that didn’t need it to take it almost too bad. It was too suspicious.

I have not received the covid jab and never will. The following items made me wary of it from the start.

I was suspicious of the official covid narrative from the beginning as there was so much of an immediate and unified narrative to conform to tyrannical covid mandates from governments and other institutions and individuals.

Science was misused as a pretext for tyrannical covid mandates and to silence opposition.

Science is descriptive, not prescriptive. It is an impartial tool to help us understand the world, not an oppressive tool that compels us to tyranny. Science welcomes dissent and discussion.

It was clear to me that covid was being used as a tool by those in power to control people, restrict freedoms, economically destroy people and institutions, and to pit people against each other.

Covid was used as a pretext to rapidly change societal norms in a negative way by reducing individual liberty and freedom and by reducing the concept of medical privacy.

It became acceptable for people to inquire, in fact demand to know, whether one was sick with covid, or even if they were asymptomatic carriers of covid.

Later, it became acceptable for people, governments, employers, and others to demand to know one’s covid vaccination status.

Harmful medical protocols such as Remdesivir and ventilators were used on covid patients.

People were irrationally freaked out about covid in general. Even people who contracted mild or asymptomatic covid were freaked out about it. Why be freaked out about a virus that gives one zero symptoms?

People became obsessed about testing for covid even if they were asymptomatic or mildly sick. In these cases, taking a covid test is irrelevant. I think the only use for covid tests is giving hospitals an excuse to use Remdesivir and ventilators.

Covid treatments that worked, but didn’t enrich big pharma, like Ivermectin, Hydroxychloroquine, zinc, vitamin C, and vitamin D were suppressed. 

Dissident voices on covid were heavy handedly and tyrannically suppressed and persecuted.

The official origination story of covid was suspicious and has changed over time. The official covid narrative in general has been suspicious and has changed over time. 

When the covid jabs came out, they were pushed oppressively and tyrannically on people by governments, schools, businesses, other institutions, and even other people.

Employers fired and refused to hire unjabbed employees. Schools expelled and refused to enroll unjabbed students.

Employers and schools appointed themselves as theologians and expected their employees and students to submit religious exemptions to their liking in order to qualify for a religious exemption to the jab.

Some of these employers and schools even expected a religious leader to sign off on these exemptions. That leaves out people like me who base their religious beliefs solely on their own interpretation of the Bible and relationship with Jesus.

It was socially unacceptable to question the safety, efficacy, and even the supposed need for the covid jabs.

The ingredient list for the covid jabs was never produced. People were expected to have the covid jab injected into them without even knowing what is in it which is absurd. There can be no informed consent with information.

Many of the pro-jab people were hysterically in favor of the jab and reacted with hateful and irrational anger towards those who opposed the jab. It was impossible to engage in civil discussion with these people over the jab.

If one is jabbed and the jab works, then why should the jabbed person be concerned with the jab status of others?

I was the only person in my family who did not take the covid jab. The other members of my family were not open to information against the jab. My dad respectfully dismissed my concerns. I didn’t discuss the jab with my sisters as I knew that they would react with anger.

I did not suffer any family estrangements over our differences about the jab. We have basically agreed to disagree and don’t discuss the topic.

I will never submit to any employer jab mandate. I haven’t worked for a company yet with a jab mandate, but I was declined from a potential employer who impertinently asked for my jab status during a phone interview. I respectfully told them that I was unjabbed.

Being someone’s employer, school, or government doesn’t give one the right to mandate a vaccine or other healthcare procedure onto their employees, students, or citizens.

Now that the jab has shown itself to be dangerous and deadly, I will most certainly never get it.

No covid shots and no covid tests. I did everything I could to avoid it. I don’t ride the Ronacoastet–I never got on.

1. In the very beginning I saw a video of Dr Kerry Mullis who invented the PCR tests. He was adamant that the test not be used to diagnose illness or disease.

2. All along we’ve been able to take our pets to the vet. Somebody’s there who’s terrified of the virus but not so terrified to fluff & buff your poodle.

3. The pervasiveness of it. TV, radio, billboards, online. It was all covid/all the time. Everything felt off.. Standing 6 feet apart in a crowded Menards or Lowes but the local Bob’s hardware couldn’t stay afloat.

I thank God everyday for my discernent.

I didn’t believe the story of the origin in a wet market, and then Zerohedge was censored for questioning the origin.

There were stories of corona virus biological material being stolen and smuggled to China that were labeled as conspiracy.

Then there were reports that coronaviruses were being studied at a lab in Wuhan.

As a lab designer, I knew first hand that theft of biological material was a real problem. I knew first hand that labs are dangerous places where researchers are exposed, accidents happen, and researchers die. I knew first hand about transgenic mice, and suspected that viral escape from a humanized mouse in a city with a lab studying the same virus, was as likely, if not more so, than catching the virus from a pangolin or a bat in a wet market.

Information about the poor condition of the lab suggested that a leak was inevitable.

Censorship of anyone questioning the origin suggested an active coverup.

Denial of treatment and off label use of medications, ridiculous DNR protocols required in urban areas for first responders, threats to doctors and pharmacists.

Prophetic pandemic scenarios, and virality TED talks.

Suspicions about 1000 talents, Shenzhen peacocks, and how China had humanized transgenic mice in 2007.

Massive street protests that weren’t considered an issue.

No way that I would take their experimental jab, or recommend it to family or friends. I smelled a rat.

I did not take the shot because I new that either ivermectin or hydroxychloroquin and zinc would be a better altenative if I gota covid which I never did.

I didn’t want to take any vaccine using fetal cells in it’s creation, plain and simple.

I DID NOT take the JAB.

In a nutshell, because;

1) God has not yet taken my ability to reason.

2) Pushing and bullying me makes me MORE suspicious, not less.

3) I had, recovered from, and developed immunity to WuWhoo flu by a very short time after the Government admitted that it was in my state

It takes 7-10 years of lab testing and clinical trials before vaccines are approved for dispensing to the general public. When Trump announced vaccines would be done in 7-10 months, I knew this was not going to go well. My wife and adult son and daughter agreed we would not take the vaccine unless Hell had frozen over (and the Weather Channel’s long-term forecast did not show that happening). We are more convinced than ever that we made the right choice.

The bogeyman in the whole equation is still what is being done to the blood supply? Our concern is that future medical procedures requiring blood transfusions will involve draining our “pure” blood and resupplying us with the ticking time bomb of vaxed blood.

I have a preexisting condition that I have had for 30 years. In those years I have suffered side effects from certain drug. Some of my drugs were recalled and then I started noticing the ads asking people if they were injured from certain drugs. My father suffered damage to his lungs from a medication prescribed to him by the VA. The damage was permanent. These experiences made me realize that I had to become my own health advocate. For sometime now I have made it a habit of not taking any new meds that come on the market and are recommended by my doctors. I drag my feet, which allows me to research for the pros and cons and allows time to see how things play out. With Covid-19 vaccine I did the same thing and at the same time took supplements to boost my immune system. I was blessed with a doctor who was also reviewing the vaccines,and together we worked out a plan to help me increase my survival rate. The first negative issues I discovered about the shots were the heart issues. Over time it just got worse.

I never even considered taking the vax. I don’t even take a flu shot….ever. Emergency Use and the demonization of Ivermectin and hydrochloriquine were key for me. Forcing people to take it was all kinds of wrong. Everything about it just felt wrong.

I did not take the shot and I have NO regrets about that decision. Initially I decided against it because there wasn’t enough testing and there were far too many government officials and big Pharma pushing it way too hard. Over the past months I’ve seen the damage and harm the MRNA not-a-vaccines have done. I don’t know if I’ll ever get another vaccine for anything except maybe tetanus.

To my knowledge, I’ve never had covid. If I do get it, I have the vitamins and meds I need.

While recovering from surgery, I missed the initial window. Then, I saw whistleblowers on Rumble. That did it for me. Enough doubt and personal risk factors (3 serious out of 4) made me give it a hard pass.

My family caught it before it was publically announced in the media. It was a very unusual cold to me. When they put the warnings out I looked up Corona virus and found it to be just that. So I believed I had antibodies already to fight any new variance. When they came out and pushed the vaccines I declined for the reasons of 1. Untested/experimental. 2. The changing stories and lies coming out of the Fauci team. And 3. Because of you Treepers, I became informed of the many problems associated with the vaccines. I thank all of you for warning us about Remdesevir etc. Again, thank you all so very much !

Simple.

99.7% survival rate for an experimental RNA vaccine from which the manufacturer was granted immunity.

No.

Just NO.

Pureblood. FJB

I am an Australian and I live there full time. I was 70 when it began
IMO
Starting with PDJT – the entire set of circumstances stank, lockdown => postal ballots.
The concerted efforts by governments around the world to mandate/force the jab on me.
Sensible people said masks didn’t work.
MSM orchestrated a locked-step media campaign.
Before I was banned from Twitter, it became obvious that dissenting voices were being muted.
Common sense indicated there was something fishy about the the vaccine.
We were banned from buying Ivermectin and HCQ.
The pressure on me personally by the government, friends and family was ridiculous.
The Flu had vanished from Australia.

Nothing about the narrative made sense right from the beginning. Everything about it felt wrong, and I knew we were being lied to. I started reading and researching everything I could find about this virus, Covid, vaccines, the FDA, NIH and all the major players involved. Spent hours reading, listening to physicians and scientists who disagreed with the narrative being shoved down our throats on a daily basis. My family and I all decided not to get the vaccine…there was never any question, really. Thankfully, all four of our adult children were 100% in agreement as well as their spouses and each of our four young grandchildren will never be vaccinated and never wore a mask! However, the decision would leave an impact, as I know it has impacted many! My son had to seek a religious exemption from his University, which thankfully was granted. My daughter and her husband, both teachers at a Catholic High School lost their jobs because the administration decided they wanted to have staff 100% vaccinated. My husband was one of only a handful of people who did not get vaccinated, and while his company never mandated vaccines, they applied a lot of pressure and made working there miserable for almost two years. It ultimately, played a large part in his decision to retire this year, after a 43 year career as CFO. His co-worker and best friend of 40+ years, sadly, did get vaccinated. He was diagnosed this past April with an aggressive stage 4 brain cancer and died almost exactly 4 months later. This was the other half of the reason for leaving. My sister and I no longer speak because she bought the lies. She watches MSM 24/7. My brother and his wife, an Optometrist, are squarely in the liberal elitist camp and consider themselves to be the learned and informed and very proud of their vaccine status, as are both of their young adult daughters. They lectured us at my father’s funeral about how virtuous they were and how they were protecting us by wearing masks in the house and social distancing so that we could continue to live in “our little bubble” and not take the” dreaded covid” seriously! I was enraged. We no longer get together. We are very lucky to have my younger brother and wife, who also refused the vaxx, that we get together with. We do not regret our decision AT ALL!

I contracted COVID in February of 2020, and because it had not yet been reported as a “deadly” virus, I assumed it was a bad flu. I happened to be in Manhattan, NY, in February, which I think was ground zero. I suffered through it taking across-the-counter flu remedies, because I didn’t know what else to do. When the shots became available, I didn’t take one, because no one could explain to me why I should take a vaccine for an ailment I’d already been through. And with what I know now, I’ll never take one.

I got pushback from some family members (the only people I encouraged to take therapeutics instead of shots), but I felt I had a responsibility to alert them. So far, no reports of adverse effects. At least nobody has told me of any. My fear is what will happen to them in the future.

Haven’t trusted anything the government says for decades. The love of power and money is the work of the devil, and it was apparent from the start of all this. I recognized early on that EVERYTHING they said was a lie.

When the pile of dead bodies gets high enough, your paranoia is justified.

When commie relatives asked me about my jab status, I told them it would be racist to get the jab before everyone else had, and I didn’t want to exercise my white privilege by cutting in line.

When my employer asked for my vaccine exemption request, I told them Americans are not required to ask permission to be free to choose. I retired early, and have done my best to ‘go Galt’.

After the initial 2 week lockdown, trusted alternative news started providing enough information that my entire extended family decided to go on living normal lives. Masks only when required, i.e. grocery shopping, normal family dinners, celebrations, etc., daily trips outdoors to Starbucks, take out dinners, etc. Have had the habit of wiping down shopping carts and using hand sanitizer for over a decade, so nothing new there and just continued to take adequate precautions. All the hype and fear porn just seemed overdone, and when the hospital ships were never used, and reports of respirators being held in storage units in New York, it just didn’t sit right. When talk of the new mRNA shots started up, the alternative news sites started reporting on experts like Dr Backdi, Dr Malone, and Dr McCullough and the dangers of an untested gene therapy, we all decided we would not take the shot. We were all hardening our position primarily when the whole world was pushing the shots just a little too aggressively and every government was acting in lockstep. Color me cynical, but that is what finally made my entire family decide we were a HARD NO. We just felt that there was another agenda and it wasn’t Covid. God truly blessed us since 3 households made it through without losing jobs, college opportunities, school, etc. without having to get the jab. The only disappointment was that my grandson had to leave the Marines, a very difficult decision for him. Since that time we all have known someone who has been adversely affected from taking the vaccine, including death and a stillborn baby. My son is only 1 of 3 people in his office that are unvaxxed, but everyone else in the office has had Covid multiple times. We will never, ever get the shot or any other vaccine.

Stopped relying on the medical community years ago. Use natural medicine.
Acquainted with biochemistry and knew having an artificially created mRNA put in my body that would program my cells to produce an alien toxic protein was a nonstarter.
So thankful God gave me good sense and trust in Him.
Nobody pressured me and I didn’t lose any relationships, although some neighbors in our community weren’t too sure about me. I have jabbed and unjabbed friends and family. I love them all and hope and pray no harm comes to the jabbed ones. I am concerned about my cousin’s jabbed pilot husband; he was looking a little grey the last time I saw him. ☹️

One of the few benefits of having a media that operates in lockstep according to some centrally-controlled message is that it immediately arouses one’s suspicions: why were they trying so hard to convince us of something, and even take away our legal rights? It was obvious from the start that the issue was control—not healthcare. Obviously, the goal—whatever it was— was not in my best interest. Even if it had been a genuine vaccine, I would still have refused to to take it.

Once I discovered that the substance was not, in fact, a vaccine, but an entirely experimental gene therapy, any lingering doubt was gone. Our study of genetics is in its infancy, and playing around with it is pure hubris on mankind’s part—we have no idea what we’re doing. To experiment with the bodies of other human beings is ignorant, cynical, cruel, and evil—especially when motivated by power and greed.

Wow, it’s been so long since I’ve commented here, I might have lost my log-on & avatar. No worries, looks like there’s already a sea of similar comments.

Sundance, you already know my story. Thanks for being there all these weird & wild years, a true brother.

Fear & rebellion. Lack of fear, then fear, then lack of fear.

I had ZERO concern of fear of COVID for two reasons. 1) I knew it was bullsh*t, contrived, propagandized and utilized as weaponized control. 2) I have an unusually robust immune system and have never had a flu shot and rarely ever got sick.

I had no fear of the virus. And I had no fear of going un-vaxxed. I mean, come on! It was obvious! When they started offering free beer, free burgers, free donuts, cash prizes, scholarships, sweepstakes prizes and even “joints” for the jab, anybody with a clear mind knew it was total manipulative bullsh*t.

BUT, fear did rear it’s ugly head. I *did* have some fear of my fellow propagandized humans and the bureaucrats pulling the strings. For a short while during those Vax-Fever months in 2021 I thought I was going to lose everything and become a pariah hermit for my steadfast refusal to be vaxxed. I’m in California, the belly of the compliant zombie covid world.

The things that were said to me- the insults, scorn and vile hatred towards anyone not complying with the lockstep ritual of fear. It’s truly unbelievable. I cannot believe my fellow humans had devolved into such hateful & mindless demons. I AM NOT exaggerating. I flew under the radar. They thought I was one of them. I never confirmed or denied, I just listened. It’s shameful & embarrassing to realize so many in my community were no different from the Nazis. If the stars aligned they’d have put me in a boxcar to the camp in a heartbeat.

I held firm. I never wavered.

Now with all the side effects & sudden deaths happening, NONE of them- NOT ONE, wants to talk about the vaccine. It’s like they’ve memory holed the entire vaccine episode. It doesn’t exist anymore. It’s totally bizarre.

The deceived will remain deceived. I will remain in the light. This is how it shall be.

I was a science major in college years ago. When the Covid vaxx propaganda tsunami started, I thought about Evolutionary Biology. It seemed obvious that vaxx for everyone in the middle of an infection wave would just put evolutionary pressure on the virus to mutate more rapidly. There was no possible way for Pfizer et. al. and public health to get ahead of Mother Nature. The coronavirus virus family mutates rapidly, one reason why there has never been a successful vaccine. So the argument is similar to why we should not overuse antibiotics, don’t breed superbugs. I knew that the whole thing would be a failure, and soon became suspicious of mRNA technology.

Secondly, I had taken hydroxychloroquine on several occasions during travel In malaria infested areas in Asia and Africa. The absurd propaganda that HCQ was poison, obvious nonsense.

So I ignored the mandatory stupidity and tried to redpill friends and relatives, with very little success. Fortunately my husband, son, and daughter all arrived at the same decision not to get vaxxed. We pooled information, interesting how we arrived at the same conclusion by different routes.

Pro-life values helped, so did long term interest in natural health.

I got un-invited from a party and kicked out of one medical practice plus my Pilates class. I was ok with being a dissident.

In Oct 2019, Inhad a lady from Wuhan, who visited her friend her every 6 months. She had been to clinic several times in the past for general minor health problems and preventive services, generally healthy. In Oct 2019 she presented with a nasty bronchitis, some chills, opacities on chest xray. She had just arrived from Wuhan, nothing suspicious, treated her for atypical pneumonia…shots zithromax inhalers steroids. She improved, her partner had mild bronchitis. After that we started seeing a large increase in cases of attpical pneumonia. There was a fair amount of influenza as well in the community. By December we were concerned about seeing more atypical pneumonia. InDec I peRned of the epidemic of pneumonia in Wuhan. I preactice inrural Alabama.
Then the hype of the virus spreading worldwide over the next few months. Inthe spring, folks started getting sicker and we had some send out testing for COV. (The first test I ordered for Cov, i had to store in our lad refridgerator for three days while the state health department decided to test it or nor…they finally did, and by the time the positive result was returned, she was improved) We had limited gowns, gloves, masks and it was suggested we re-use the Gowns….that was a no-no, so we didn’t, and just went to see folks with mask and gloves. There were lotps of real sick folks with cov/pneumonia. By December, most of the staff of 50 or so, had it at some point. InDec 2020, the cov shot was available. Since I was pushing 70, and hadn’t had it yet, it seemed prudent to get it, Pifzer. I continued to do well and was on hydroxychloroquin daily.No illness. My wife did the same, although got the Pifzer in Feb-March. we both did well. In Nov 2020 my son and DIL both got it, recovered. In later 2021, their employers insisted they get the vaccine, which they declined due to having had it before. Employers werenunrelenting. somwe decided to do antibody tesying for nuecleocapsid antibody, spike levels and antibody to splike. They suggested I do the same, since I had the vax but no apparent illness, except a prolonged cough in the fall of 2019. Results showed all three ofj us had significant natural immunity (neucleocapsid mine also showed spike Ab, but no free spike
level, even less than they. So i continued seeing tons of cov patients, while on hydroxychloroquin. Stopped that in spring of 2022, got cov 6 weeks later. was ill with fever and flu-like stuff , improved with IVm and HDC in 2 days, have been fine since.
I will not get the booster, and so far have had no ill effect or know heart complications.From the lot numbers on my card, I likely got either a null injection, both times, or a low dose. My wife for cov at the same time as me and took paxlovid, whichnhelped a bit but she had recurrent symptoms about 2 weeks later.We had been well since. I take IvM once every 6-8 weeks for 2-3 days. Haven’t check the antibody levels since.
Inhave treated ober 6500 cov cases, some had significant underlying disease and succumbed to the combination. Most we treated according to our home grown protocol. Overall mortality has been less that 1%. Out populationconsists of a lot of older folks. here it is:
if mild illness and no risk factors, synptomatic treatmet only and return if worse
Moderate sillness, or more severe and wanting to go home, Im rocephin and decadron, zithromax, decongestant, cough medicine, albuterol and steroid inhalers. Zinc, Vit D, Vit C, pepcid, aspirin (81 or 325 if there is a history of Cv disease of blood clots), odnasetrone for nausea, peptobismol for diarrhea, tylenol, and all the water you can drink. Also sunshine, outside, and activity. We see the ones who are more ill, on2-4 successive days for exam plus of minus shots, and follow chest xrays, Chest Ct for concerning symptoms….there are a lot of pulmonary emboli. our modified Zelenko protocols seem to work well, baced on our low hospitalization and low mortality rates.
I intermittently take IvM in the hopes that it keeps spike levels low, no real data on that.
Virtually all my family are die-hard dems, and they have been most distant, and generally scorned my advice, so I no longer do that. One son had to get the vax for airline job, the two daughters (Duke staff and one in Arlington were rapib about the shots and equally rbip about getting shots, boosters, and the same for out grandchildren, really pissed one off about the early Isralei data about myocarditis. One persists invaxxing, the other, had cov and figured out it was nothing and has,i think, reformed her opinions. Maybe there is hope there. We do not discuss the issue.
I will not take an additional cov shot for any reason, neither will my wife, RN.
I wish I had not taken the initial shots (i have nerver called them vaccines). Virtually all my cov patients now are vaxxed and boosted, and have more significant disease with cov than the ones not vaxxed.
I do not advise the vax, unless someone has multiple risk factors and wants it. I tell them it is a personal decision, but I do not give orders for it.
We really miss the antibody infusions, which was a superlative treatment until they took it away. Bastards.
inoffer IVm tonselected patients after Indecide if they might have interest in it. Most farmers and ranchers have it at home, and we go over the dose carefully. The state threatened licences about IVM for a while but we persisted and it is no monger an issue here.
We do have some very intereesting discussions about what ‘they’ have done. Dortunately, the cov disorder is less severe, but more transmissable as it evolves. The vast majorit of folks here are simply oner the crap in a variety of ways.
If you are treating patients, treat the patient, not the journal articles. If you are ill, and suspect cov or flu, gonsee the doctor, adnd makes sure the doctor treats not the bank account, and not the journal articles.
Add molnupiravir and IvM if significantly ill, and exam patient daily until they improve. Treat people, not lab tests.
Hope this helps for treatment and for general guidance. Hippocrates said, ‘Knowing is difficult’. Indeed.

As someone with an academic understanding of how mRNA vaccines came into existence and the largely negative data we had on them before COVID-19 went public, it was an easy call to wait and see if they had any real efficacy.

Once largely effective treatments like Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine against the virus became public knowledge, there was almost no amount of pressure which would have gotten me to take these unproven and untested vaccines.

I counseled all close friends and family to avoid the shots if possible. The only exceptions were elderly people over 75 with other significant risk factors, which I now regret but hindsight is always 20/20.

The medical establishment outed itself during COVID as a completely untrustworthy institution, little more than another facet of a deeply corrupt government in bed with pharmaceutical companies. I have no doubt hundreds of thousands, even millions, would still be living today if the warped political aims of the globalists didn’t insinuate itself throughout our medical response.

I knew something was not right about the Vax when the powers that be were hysterically pushing this vax on the American people from every direction and even trying to bribe us. Being in the Defense industry I asked for a religious exemption and got it or I would have walked away from my Job and filed a law suite.

I’ll answer for those who took the shot in a single word – coercion. We are living in Italy and without proof of vaccination (Green Pass), we would have been constrained to only grocery stores and pharmacies…all other public places were off-limits. What chafed (even more) was that 8-9 months after being “fully vaccinated” (2 doses) we were notified that our Green Pass would expire at the end of the month if we did not get a booster! How did we go from “fully vaccinated” to un-vaccinated? We would never have taken the drug otherwise because we believe(d) there are safe and effective therapeutics.

For me as an SF medic having taken a given many vaccinations that others don’t get, and having written a lessons plan on certain infectious diseases. I was aware of the time necessary for a new inoculation or vaccination to be developed and tested. I was also aware of how disastrous the hastily developed and deployed vaccination for the Swine flu was. Combine that with the mode being a new mRNA “vaccination” and I was quite leery from the beginning. The when the government started telling people that the “vaccination” stopped transmission I knew they are lying based on my previous studies.

No viral contagion transmitted by aerosol, having a non human reservoir has ever been contained or controlled by man kind. Prevention of transmission is impossible. An effective vaccine only prevents disease in those exposed and does NOT stop the exposed person from transmitting the contagion. PERIOD!

Further, I was almost positive that I had the infection several months before it started being talked about in the news and thus had natural immunity. And since as a truck driver that continued to work during the “Pandemic”, I have not had COVID despite my wife and others close to me having contracted it, I reckon I was correct in that assessment.

As someone who has had open heart surgery, I signed off on the vax when I heard that the spike proteins it provoked the body to produce attacked the endothelial linings of the blood vessels.

Non vaxed. I refuse to become a GMO. Did the Resident Evil universe not teach us anything at all? I will keep only the genetic code as written by my Creator. I do not find it acceptable that the feds began dictating to people on acceptable forms of being faithful.

1. I chose not to take the shot because this is simply not how science works. And that’s pretty much it.

I don’t know if I’m correct in this, but I like to think of myself as being very much about genuine science. – I should mention that until I lost my career to mandates, I was also a medical scientist working in a pathology lab, running blood tests and even covid tests, plus more.

As for the science that I followed, it is about only the high risk people who take an experimental treatment. A bit like Trump’s “right to try”. Only the truly high risk of death people should ever use anything experimental. And this is because the potential adverse events are unknown, and therefore could be severe. In fact, I once told a friend that if I was offered $1m I would still say no. And if I was in charge, I would not allow low or medium risk people to take the shot.

In addition to this, I also have a deep curiousity about science, particularly medical science. I have watched many videos and read many papers on many health topics that I’m sure most people wouldn’t bother with. And so, now I find myself interested in covid data. So I also saw a lot of the evil quite early on.

2. How this has correlated with me following the CTH, is that I also have a great interest in politics, including American politics. Sadly, I probably watch more American politics than Aussie politics. – I should mention that I am an Aussie.

And my interest in both health and politics has helped make the covid lies more obvious.

3. I paid a heavy price for this decision. I lost my career. I went from being an excellent lab scientist to serving Chinese fast food at a shopping centre. I used to be rich and now I am poor. I used to engage my brain and now I chat a lot.

I also moved closer to my parents because they are aging and I want to spend more time with them. That’s also been hard because I left behind a vibrant lifestyle and haven’t made a lot of local friends yet.

And at the time I got my little job, there wasn’t a lot of jobs for the unvaccinated. Maybe 90% asked for a vax. Now it’s a lot better, but I’ve been too lazy to apply for something better, plus I like my coworkers and customers, so I’m hesitant to change.

I also lost a 30y friendship. This person has since tried to mend the friendship, but she claims to still believe everything, so I can’t accept that. Maybe in time this can change. I’m also unsure where I now stand with our mutual friends.

I’m super lucky that my family will support ANYTHING, whatever I decide. I have friends who are not as lucky.

As for my other friends, the scared ones would be happy to meet up so long as I was not currently sick.

4. Right now I feel a bit like I have some version of PTSD from everything that’s happened. Maybe not specifically PTSD, but something ???

I am generally happy and I can find joy in every situation. But I also find myself angry at the powers that have done this. They are mass murderers, and I want them to face repercussions.

My perspective is from the UK. We have the usual lying press and the despicable BBC, luckily I threw out the TV around 15 years ago and get my news via my chosen sites on the internet. Having said that I monitor the MSM as it gives a heads up, via it’s hectoring nudges, which way they’re trying to herd us.
My red light lit up early on, probably late February through March 2020, I’m old and like to hear stuff put plainly, calmly and truthfully. It was the ongoing absolute overkill of scaremongering constantly put out by the news papers and radio, like demented used car salesmen, and later on the phone calls and txt’s from the doctors surgery and I think other sources, badgering to come and get the jab that told me I’d made the right decision, not to.

The first and most important step in the process of refusing it was their poo-pooing of ivermectin and hydroxycloroquin. Nothing they were saying was true, and if you know how to dig through the literature, it became obvious that something was up, and the more they fought it, the clearer it became something was up. They were smothering an easy way to save lives. In addition, they employed an extremely heavy handed way of forcing people to take it once it was released, and they started strayng from public health standard practices. The timing of its release around the election also got my spidey senses g0ing – it did not sway me against the vaccine, but I became much more cautious. Another factor was the mass hysteria I was witnessing alarmed me. Finally, I luckily had some folks I knew from church who thought the same way as me, and knowing I was not the only one gave me the strength to stand up to the mandates. Almost lost my job, but covid started mellowing out when they were going to crank the thumbscrews. My wife was forced to get it very early, and we both decided at that point for her to go with it, because we did not know enough at that point.

I read a lot. I just could not buy the whole process because you could tell they weren’t doing the background work you do before you start human trials. They didn’t just all of a sudden come up with this miraculous m-RNA.

My Mom lost 2 younger sisters in the depression to diphtheria because there was no vaccine & no medicine to cure it.

But I was lucky enough to not have problems getting small pox, polio & diphtheria vaccines, but had regular & German measles, chix pox & the mumps before vaccines came along for those infections and of course, got tetanus shots every ten yrs (had an aunt who got tetanus & survived it but she was in an induced coma for weeks).

The more I read about the spike proteins, the more convinced I got that people getting the jab were essentially live lab experiments with no idea the damage being wreaked on their own immunity system. My immune system’s gotten me this far…

The flip side of this is I fell & started having severe back pain & sciatica problems a month before the SHTF. My doctor would not see me, would not refer me & told me to stay away from er rooms until “things” settled down. I had a ruptured disk, eventually got surgery but have permanent nerve damage.. I read that as of July 2020, something like 64 million Americans could not or did not get the medical care, diagnosis, surgery & other treatments they needed because of treating only COVID & emergency patients. I didn’t think a vaccine was going to fix my back & it did not damn well fix hip replacements or cure cancers.

And then came the stories of taking people who needed organ transplants off the transplant lists when they & their donors hadn’t had the vaccine. WTF?

My husband got the jabs without telling me, then wondered why I cried. He said it was so he could take care if me if I got sick. All I could think of was now I had a better chance of coming down with COVID since even then experts hoped the immunized wouldn’t transmit the virus but didn’t know.

And of course, my immunized in-laws gave us both COVID when they came to visit because they have grandchildren who bring everything home from daycare. They’ve had COVID 2 or 3 times. My husband’s had it 3 times, me twice.

We moved from the Republic of Boulder in the Spring of 2021, where you STILL had to wear a mask in most places, to Oklahoma where you only wear a mask to go to medical facilities & some dr offices. The drs sometimes ask if you’ve been vaccinated but most times, it’s have you had COVID or COVID symptoms in the past 2 weeks or month. I had successful cataract surgeries at a hospital last fall–no hassle on being unvaccinated, no pre-surgery COVID test like I had to have for back surgery in late fall 2020.

My husband has, but I have not flown since before COVID hit the U.S. I’m happy not to be traveling to places I used to enjoy before they turned extreme left Democrat. Therefore, I guess I’m lucky to not have to be worried about being shunned or shamed by my vaccination status.

And Sundance & you guys explained things so I understood what I was reading elsewhere & in the news about COVID. You’ve saved lives, mine included. God bless you Sundance & all of you, except you annoying trolls.

I figured I’d wait a few years in line with standard testing for vaccinations and recognizing this was emergency authorization. Then I saw how the government was behaving with the science, and I didn’t trust their eventual all clear.

Did not and have not had any of the C19 shots.

I observed first and noted the lack of serious events around me. That continued IMO to this day.

Lots of talk about the deadly virus, but I could not see any actual horrendous outcomes.

Spoke to friends and family, politely inquiring had anyone come across a friend etc who had died or seriously affected. None, no one gave me direct evidence. Plus no one was dying in the streets or being carried out of their homes, feet first!

I maintained my work landscaping throughout, so came into contact with new contacts regularly, again nothing in their sphere of family and friends.

Impressed by Dr Z, I followed his trajectory, was worried that Hydroxychloroquine and the horse de wormer was considered a banned substance.

So didn’t take the shot at the height of the panic, and now glad I didn’t.

I coach an u16 football squad and pray every training session and game that they remain well and safe.

God bless all the souls who seek discernment in any aspect of their life. The pressure to take the vaccine and not take the vaccine was significant; I think we made it through tho 👍

I did not take the injectable product. I’m a retired ASN/RN and an avid reader, which helped my resisting.

The measures of the lockdown of the healthy, distancing, masks, and the persecution & silencing of the medical profession worldwide that gave a different voice… none of it made sense.

Did I then trust that these speedy vaccines would really be truthfully tested for safety and efficacy? No. My trust is gone on all vaccines.

Family relationships. The effects of the fear of covid will always have a something that interferes with freedom of closeness for some of us rather than if we took the injection or not. People need a lot of grace and mercy given and accepted… both ways.

After reading most comments on page 23!!!!
I want to add some more of my two cents. I NEVER COMPLIED WITH ANY OF THIS DISGUSTING HATEFUL TYRANNY AND NEVER WILL!!!
There, now I feel better. 😘

We had it, very early on. I have been a health care fraud investigator, and had been researching treatments starting before lockdown (and have despised Fauci for decades). I was aware the mrna shots were gene modification therapy.

From a religious perspective, I was blessed: this did not catch me unaware, having watched Dr. Chuck Missler’s commentaries on biotech years earlier; the planned pandemic was actually not unexpected. I take Genesis 6 literally. In the original Hebrew, it states Noah was tamim in his genealogy, genetically pure; the same as required for sacrificial animals (unlike the Nephilim). Daniel 2:43 indicates, regarding the last kingdom before Christ returns, “As you saw iron mixed with ceramic clay, they will mingle with the seed of men; but they will not adhere to one another, just as iron does not mix with clay.” I am convinced God does not want me mixing my genes with anything non-human.

I had been a volunteer at my son’s parochial school and husband’s church (deep blue area, no decent church for me but I go with him although he does not agree with their liberal doctrine either). I was berated for being selfish for refusing the vaccine, and we have been pretty much shunned by church and neighbors and kicked out of the volunteer programs.

My younger son’s doctor had screwed up vaccine recommendations in the past and I had repeatedly had to give her dozens of pages of medical literature on vaccines explaining why he did not need doses 4 and 5 of Pediarix (last thing she ever wants is another lecture from me on vaccines explaining what the medical facility computer system mistakes are). My younger son’s friends (teens) were stand-offish at first, many had shots forced on them by parents and got sick anyway and are merely angry at stupid adults.

My faith is unshaken, stronger in fact. And my husband’s office closed and he gets to work from home, so I see him more which is a blessing!

Myself, Wife, Sons and grand children are now purebloods and will stay that way.
Reason being is multiple decades ago it became obvious to anyone capable of critical thinking that in order to be closest to actual truth/fact….. One had to believe or do the exact opposite of what the PTBs or the government claimed.
Im 60 and in exellent shape and health, Ive been to a Dr (emergency room for a poisoning issue. Long story) once in the last 6 years. That 1 time was May of 2020 and EVERYONE at that hospital insisted that I get a ‘rona test. Were quite nasty about it when I refused again and again over 10 times. I will now, because of this, never go to ANY Doc or medical person that I dont know and trust personally. This fiasco has shown me that its all about $$ not healthcare. You never hear about cures anymore only how to treat “symptoms”.
I’ll never be sorry for not getting jabbed nor have I had any shot since a tetnus in 1990.
Ive been a lurker Treeper for about 3 years and this is my only post in that time. You asked for reasons from me/us after sharing your expertise for years…… so how could I not.

My decision to refuse the vaccine was based on a combination of life experiences – academic background, employment, previous serious injury from prescription drugs and knowledge about Fauci’s role in the AIDS epidemic.

I worked as a laboratory research assistant at a major medical center, a national laboratory, and a Fortune 500 pharmaceutical company. Everything connected to the Covid vaxx seemed like a cartoon version of science created for very young children while obviously knowledgeable scientists and physicians were prevented from sharing their knowledge.

At the time the authorities started mandating Covid vaccines, there were no long-term safety studies. There was also no valid testing completed for pregnant women or people with auto-immune diseases. By April 2020, it was obvious that generic drug remedies were being suppressed to benefit the pharmaceutical industry and aspiring totalitarian political operatives. 

1) I don’t believe in the madness of crowds. When there are toilet paper lines, I wait.
2) 99% recovery. Most people survived just fine. Those that didn’t were obese and/or had diabetes.
3) I had a wait and see attitude that only got stronger.
4) I got angrier as I was excluded from many events.
5) So much about the whole covid thing was beyond stupid. Arrows down the grocery aisle? No rakes in bunkers? Taped up kids gym equip? Masking? The list is too long.
6) No therapy offered. Just get sick enough to go to the hospital.
I remain quite happy I didn’t get any.

If covid came here when they said it did and where it did then I was likely one of the first to get it.

I was on the Monterey Peninsula in California in early November of 2019. When I got back to the Midwest just before Thanksgiving I had a bad cough which then presented with multiple flu like symptoms. The most notable was being short of breath after simply walking up the stairs with a basket of laundry in my hands.

When all the hoopla began in 2020 I realized I had probably already had it and survived, without even missing a day of work so why bother with a jab?

After the fact I realized I had every symptom that presented as covid other than chest tightness. The cough lasted at least a month. I lost my sense of smell and most of my sense of taste. Had headaches and general body aches but nothing that prevented me from going to work.

My brother, who roomed with me came down with similar symptoms a few days after I did.

I grew up in an era where we rubbed dirt on a skinned knee to stop it from bleeding. I trusted my robust immune system.

I ended up retiring from a job I loved in the airline industry because I refused to be a Guinea pig and get jabbed.

My wife worked as a nurse throughout the entire plandemic and even picked up and filled in for nurses all over her hospital that were afraid to come into work. She didn’t get covid until late in 2021. By that time she had already been fired for refusing the jab even though a year earlier she was being hailed as a front line hero (which she is).

She had similar symptoms as I did but had a higher fever. She took Ivermectin and rebounded rapidly.

We both caught whatever the second variant was and survived that too with another round of ivermectin.

Two of my kids and their kids have not been jabbed and have all tested positive at some point for covid and survived without much fanfare.

My middle child has been jabbed and boosted as have her kids and husband. No issues yet for my daughter or her kids but her husband has had multiple issues with stomach problems, back problems and severe weight loss.

We know of four friends of my children that they or their spouse have “died suddenly”. All were in their 40’s.