If CTH had a small part in helping people to reset their reference points around modern electioneering, well, that’s a good thing.
The difference between “ballots” and “votes” is previously explained {SEE HERE} and absolutely critical to understand before moving forward.
Thankfully a large percentage of conservatives, intellectually honest independents and even some establishment republican donors have read our research and are now starting to have the ‘votes‘ vs ‘ballots‘ conversation. That understanding is critical, because any conversation that does not accurately identify and accept the problem is futile.
Having said that, please do not think we are smarter than the RNC. We are not. Miss this point and you miss the next ‘ah-ha‘ moment.
The RNC club knew exactly what the DNC club were doing in their 2022 midterm “ballot submission assistance” program. Yes, that’s exactly what “ballot harvesting” is called now. “Ballot Harvesting” is illegal in many states, “Ballot Submission Assistance” is not.
Progressive political activists in the state of Arizona are now scrubbing the footprints of their ballot submission assistance programs. Wait, Arizona(?) you say. Yes, Arizona a state where “ballot harvesting” is illegal, but email, fax, online and in person drop-off is possible. Ballot assistance is essentially the same harvesting process but in a smaller and more individualized scale.
REFERENCE and CONTEXT is critical to understanding.
After Eric Holder left the Obama administration as Attorney General, he was hired by the State of California to defend against the Trump administration in early January 2017 (LINK).
Why?
When Eric Holder left the Obama administration, his firm was contracted by California during a process of linking the motor vehicle registration files to the Secretary of State voter registration system. Holder was advising on part of a technology system being constructed to bridge the DMV and SoS offices. You might know this as a “Motor/Voter” process. However, former AG Eric Holder had a very specific function in the construction of this technology bridge.
The process of adding voters to the registration rolls when they receive or update their driver’s license was seen as an opportunity to expand the voter rolls. Making the voter rolls as big as possible is the key to the utilization of mass mail-out balloting. I will skip the part where California started giving illegal aliens drivers licenses for a moment – you can obviously see how that would play with motor/voter rolls – instead I am choosing just to focus on the specifics of the Holder aspect.
The DMV needed to connect to the SoS office. This was simply a part of a tech system that needed to be built. CTH has previously spoken with the lead engineer, a member of a very small technology group, who worked in the California information technology (IT) unit that was tasked with building the system that connected the DMV to the SOS. [NOTE: I invite the state of California to sue me as they will likely claim what you are about to read is not true.]
In the process of connecting the two state networks together, there needed to be a “flag”, essentially a check box, where the applicant to the DMV would attest to being legally authorized to vote. It is a positive affirmation, a check box, that says the Driver’s License holder affirms they are legally eligible to vote. That affirmation (the technical flag in the process), when affirmed, then transmits the information to the SoS office with the DL operator identity, and the California driver is automatically added to the SoS rolls and registered to vote.
During the time when Eric Holder was the legal counsel for the California Secretary of State, the technology team was constructing the internal data processing systems.
The lead engineer in the unit was instructed to code the data transfer in such a way that even if the “check box” was left unchecked, the registration data would transmit from the DMV to the SoS office.
Essentially, instead of only those who affirmed their legal eligibility by checking the box, everyone -including those who did not check the box- would get a DL and would automatically have their information transmitted to the SoS office. Everyone who received a driver’s license or state issued id was automatically going to be registered to vote, regardless of their legally authorized status. That request led the engineer to contact me.
I wrote about it, published the details, then the engineer freaked out as he/she realized there was only a very limited number of people who could expose the issue. He/She was worried about his/her safety and family and asked me to remove the article. This background is how I know the details of who, what, when and why the California mass mailing ballot process was being constructed.
In the 2018 midterm elections we all watched the outcome of that process surface in the weeks following election day. As each day passed more and more California mail-in ballots were being counted and day-by-day Republicans who won on election day 2018 watched their lead evaporate.
What happened in the California 2018 midterm election surrounding state-wide ballot distribution, collection (harvesting) and eventual presentation to the counting and tabulation facilities, was the BETA test for the 2020 covid-inspired national ballot mailing process.
The outcome we are seeing from the 2022 midterm ballot collection program was not just similar to the 2020 general election ballot collection program, it is a direct outcome of the refined BETA test from 2018. Now we have multiple states following the California mass distribution of ballots approach. Washington state, California, Arizona, Colorado, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, New York, New Jersey, Michigan, there’s a long list.
In many states mass mailing of ballots is now codified in election law. Activist election lawyer Marc Elias now coming in behind the construction team of Eric Holder with the legal arguments to support the ballot collection programs.
The Importance of Election Rolls – As you can see from the California initiation point (Motor/Voter), in order to most effectively use the mass distribution of ballots as an electioneering process you first need a massive state secretary voter file in order to generate, then mail, the physical ballots.
Remember, votes require people – ballots require systems.
Any institutional system that can link people into the SoS system to generate a larger registration file for ballot distribution is a net positive. The key point is not to generate voters, the key is to generate ballots – the more the better. Mass printing of ballots is the origin of the electioneering process.
Any state or federal system that links a physical identity to the secretary of state voter rolls is good. Any system, like the USPS postal change of address system, that would remove physical identities from the state voter rolls is not useful. The goal is to maximize the number of systems that generate registration, that eventually generates ballots.
Beyond the Driver’s License issue, it’s everything. Sign up for public assistance, get registered to vote. Sign up for state benefits, get registered to vote. Sign up for a state id, get registered to vote. Sign up for state college, get registered to vote. Sign up for a grant, get registered to vote. Sign up for unemployment, get registered to vote. Sign up for any state system and get registered to vote. Get married, change names, change addresses, etc, that’s how the voter rolls expand and that’s how the massive distribution of ballots is created.
The states then fight against anything, any effort, any process, that would purge voter rolls or fix incorrect voting rolls. To use the new electioneering system, the system operators need ballots created, they no longer need votes. They need ballots.
Downstream from this process that’s where you find the “ballot submission assistance” programs. This is where the local community networks, regional activist groups and widespread community organizers come into play. Instead of advertising or the previous electioneering systems around candidate promotion and Get Out The Vote (GOTV) efforts, the majority of donations to the DNC are now used in the ballot assistance programs.
SIDEBAR – Now keep in mind, the origination of the ballots starts with expanded voter rolls. The rolls contain the registry status of people, regardless of their accuracy or inaccuracy.
If you were going to hire a printing company to send out fancy wedding invitations, you would need to provide that third-party with the names, addresses and details of the invitation recipients, right? Now, overlay ballots into a similar framework. Do you remember the recent issue of Konnech (CEO Eugene Yu), an election technology company, indicted for transmitting the data files of every registered voter in Pennsylvania (and more) to China?
Inside that Konnech story is how the modern ballot creation issue connects to the activity of Eugene Yu. Did pre-printed ballots arrive en-mass, in the U.S.A, as a result of the massive data files transmitted to China? That might be a sticky-widget for quite a few interests. Then again, what state just dropped the charges against Yu on the day after the midterm election? Oh, California. I digress…
The RNC and DNC are Corporations. Please understand that both the RNC and DNC are not government entities. They are each private corporations with their individual agenda, rules and memberships. These are corporations that function more like private clubs.
When it comes to ballot collection as a newly enhanced modern electioneering process, the RNC club isn’t incompetent or stupid, they knew what the DNC club was doing.
The RNC club operated in the 2022 midterm election to support (willful blindness) the DNC club effort. Why? Because the RNC club wants to remove the problems they have with the populist movement. The issues are big.
The RNC Club wants, as billionaire donor Ken Griffin explained from his discussions with Ronna McDaniel, Ron DeSantis and Kevin McCarthy, to remove the populist elements within the Republican party, vis-a-vis MAGA, and realign with the multinational corporations on Wall Street. “He wants to improve the diversity of the GOP and blunt the vein of populism that has complicated the party’s relationship with the corporate world — two things he’s consulted with House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy about.” (link)
As you can see, the issue of “votes” -vs- “ballots”, is not a singular issue for American voters. We have a mixed bag of mutually aligned common enemies in this process.
Republican politicians will support any process, including mass mailout ballot distribution and collection, regardless of its corrupt status, that will eliminate what they define as the problem within their club.
Their problem has a face….
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Midterm outcome making sense now?
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The cunning and deception is stunning, my mind is blown. This corruption is so embedded it is at the cell level. The possible cures will likely kill the patient as well. But we have to try.
“This corruption is so embedded it is at the cell level.”
Yup.
Come on Big Pharma, we need a jab to help us reach herd immunity against corruption.
Yeah, the guys in a AZ are stunned.
The Dems cheat teams start thinking of new schemes even before the tallies are completed on the last election. They must take serious delight in laughig at podcasts like Kirk’s and Bannon’s.
That is pretty funny. Two of the biggest voices for the 2020 election theft and they are shocked, I say SHOCKED, that the numbers for Lake do not make sense. You either think Dems steal election or they do not. If they believe they did, they should have been saying all along, “AZ could go all Blue if the Dems want it to”.
The AZ Kari Lake people and the state GOP made sure lawyers swarmed the place but a judge prevented keeping the voting place open a measly one more hour.
Years ago in CA, when traffic was esp. bad on freeways on election days, it was not at all unusual for judge to extend poll times an extra hour or two and no one minded that I recall.
The GOP AZ team was naive in not realizing the Dems’ ground game remains supreme.
Still I would bet big money cheating in big numbers took place.
MY AZ friend says she know no one who voted for Hobbs.
People left and didn’t come back after they had stood in line for 2 hours to vote. That was planned. 20% of Maricopa machines didn’t work.
And where the machines didn’t work, they were all republican areas.
Likewise here in CA everyone I asked denied voting for Governor hair gel, but we’re stuck with him anyway.
This gives additional ground to a redo on the election:
a judge prevented keeping the voting place open a measly one more hour.
Ditto THAT !!!!!
Oh my God. We can talk about how ballots are harvested all day, but the fact is, They way we vote must be changed. Until we enact voting laws so people can’t cheat, Republicans won’t win an election. At least the ones that matter. It really isn’t worth voting now.
and you can’t enact voting laws against cheating without winning. and you can’t win unless you enact voting laws.
People can ALWAYS cheat. There’s no such thing as a cheat-proof voting system if people are willing to commit the crime of pretending to be someone else. So we need substantial penalties for ID theft on top of vote fraud, and (more importantly) ways to catch/check the fake votes after they are cast, but before tabulation. If a person wants to commit a crime badly enough, laws and penalties can’t deter them from doing it. Capital punishment doesn’t stop murders from happening.
The ballot harvesters think they are doing wonderful things. Hey they are one of our people and they would have voted for us, so we did it for them. A valuable public service.
Hey, fellow conservatives. Are we all having a Fetterman moment? We have to match the dastardly deeds of the dems. Eye for an eye. Cheating vote for a cheat vote. What good is enacting a law? That is like sending a strongly worded letter.. We are beyond being a nation of laws. We are a nation of lawbreakers. So we either get in the fray or just quit voting. Voting is useless we have seen this for 2 straight national elections.
If you try to stop or oppose them, you’re a bigot who is out to suppress the vote.
They are well paid. That’s their primary motivation.
BULLSHIT. We have to outcheat them. I am tired of playing powder-puff football with the dems. They cheat 50 million ballots, then we cheat 60 million ballots.
For one ALWAYS vote in person. Always. The media was angry that Conservatives suggested it, so it would probably help.
Until we enact voting laws so people can’t cheat,
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What planet did you just drop in from? Its already illegal to cheat in elections. You think making it more illegal will stop it?
Joe, what most rational beings would call cheating is just legal “fortification” in many states. They call it “ballot submission assistance” and yes you and I consider it cheating but it’s not illegal in the the states that are already lost.
And it will be near impossible to elect anyone opposed to it in those States for obvious reasons.
“It really isn’t worth voting now.”
The hell it’s not!
It’s going to go further in THE OTHER direction.
I honestly cannot see how the USA survives as one country once people wakeup.
Essentially there are socialist states, and free ones.
Without internal borders, once one state turns blue, people can just migrate to the nearest red state and repeat the process, buy, bribe or threaten people in the way.
except really it is that there are marxist cities and the rest of the areas are red
Exactly. Look at a red/blue voting map by-county of any election cycle in the past 20 years (including this one) and you will see a gaint mass of red. Even places like CA and IL are almost entirely red with only a pocket or two of blue. Problem is, those pockets contain 10M people.
This is the latest map, from what I understand.
Source article: https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/11/steal-number-house-seats-continues-dwindle-gop-leaders-sleep/
Note the Blue areas are mostly cities/urban in states like mine ( Minnesota)
Plenty of us out here are MAGA in the rural areas, but our votes do not seem to reflect in the state due to apparent cheating.
I know very few folks who voted Demshovik this past election, but the state Gubnor( Walz(D) incumbent) was re-elected & so was the Dist. Rep. ( Craig-D) incumbent) while most of us in the rural areas dislike & wanted them out & MAGA ones in.
Very much the cheat happening here, as well as all over the country.
IMO, of course.
A nation this divided is broken, cannot survive.
Cannot survive.
That’s a picture of land owners, the voters with the most to lose.
Same here in CA. A lot of us would like to see the state split down the middle. Eastern CA is almost entirely red.
Let the cities burn, implode, be lawless. No one will want to go there for dinner, shopping. Major stores will continue to close, move out. They will get want they voted for.
Most people are migrating to get away from this stuff. You want to know whitish turning red states blue? Look no further than public schools.
Hobbs’ lead shrank from 35,000 to 26,000, as the percentage counted rose from 89% to 93%.
That doesn’t get Kari Lake to the finish line, unless the final 7% of votes tilts MORE Republican.
Drop tonight, and Charlie, Tyler are crestfallen. More of “these votes are from democrat areas, wait till to tomorrow night…”
I’m done following these guys.
Back of envelope math says 100% complete results give Hobbs a 10,000 to 12,000 vote final margin over Kari Lake.
Not what I want to see. But the hour is getting late. And that’s what the numbers point toward.
“DONE FOLLOWING”?
Should’ve NEVER STARTED following this hopium “drop count” BS.
By my rough calculation, Lake has to get at least 63% of the remaining votes to Hoggs at most 37%.
I calculate 58% and it’s certainly possible.
Let me try understatement. Any ‘ballot’, out bound or incoming, in the hands of USPS is susceptible to being tampered with.
That’s why I always drop ours off at the box outside the county courthouse. It has cameras pointed at it.
2 imperatives:
1) bi-partisan voter roll clean up at the county level 2) one person, one ballot ballots submitted in person on election day.
“…always drop ours off at the box… ” Cameras made no difference to people tabulating a stack of votes multiple times or pulling mystery boxes out from under a table…. Why don’t you vote in person?
I live in WA. It’s not an option since 2012. Vote-by-mail only, unless you are disabled (blind etc.), then they have in-person machines at the state capitol.
Dominion voting machines.
Vote in person.
CAN’T. Resident of Washington state.
What do you think about all this invisible mikey? You have always been something of a contrarian and I just wonder if you have a different perspective?
Thank you for the polite invitation, but I’ve said it often already. Vote-by-mail was adopted here in 2012 after a ballot initiative. It won OVERWHEMINGLY, by over 70%. WA does not HAVE voting locations anymore unless one is disabled. Ya gotta deal with the real.
I’ve voted here under both systems. I like vote-by-mail. More people participate in the political process, and it saves literally millions of dollars compared to the previous every election. The counting includes signature verification, hand counting, is done under cameras, and only by county employees who can get fired if they do it wrong.
Arizona Proposition 309 would enhance voter identification requirements. The results currently show it is losing by 39,000 votes. If Kari Lake is convinced she will win when the remaining 200,000+ votes are tabulated, then it’s likely Prop 309 will pass, too. That would be positive for Arizona.
https://results.arizona.vote/#/ballotmeasure/33/0
Lake was never going to be allowed to win. Latest drop 26k deficit have no idea the number of ballots remaining to be counted. Sad.
Minimum of 114,000 up to maximum of 160,000 still to be counted per latest report (6:24 PM MST.)
https://apps.arizona.vote/info/bps/2022-general-election/33/0
Once it got to day 2 with not even 70% counted, the outcome was known. Naive to believe otherwise. Probably naive to ever believe they would let her win at all, but a fella’s gotta believe in something I guess.
If I understand Sundance’s points, in-person voter ID is of minimal help stopping election fraud.
As long as there are mail-in ballots, drop-off ballots, or any ballot processing before or after election day, then voter ID is of minimal help stopping election fraud.
Correct. It doesn’t matter how many real votes a candidate receives if the uniparty is allowed to just keep printing off more ballots to use against them.
Prop 309 would also enhance ID requirements for early ballots.
” For mail-in voting, voters casting a mail-in ballot would have to add two new pieces of information to their affidavit: their date of birth and a voter ID number. The voter ID number would be the number on a voter’s driver’s license or government issued ID number, or the last four digits of their social security number. As of November 2022, the voting affidavit only requires the signature of the voter. This signature is verified by comparing it to the voter’s signature on record with voter registration documents.”
“Any person that assists a voter with casting a mail-in ballot must also add their phone number and relationship to the voter in the affidavit.”
https://ballotpedia.org/Arizona_Proposition_309,_Voter_Identification_Requirements_for_Mail-In_Ballots_and_In-Person_Voting_Measure_(2022)
GO BACK UNDER YOUR ROCK!!!
Joe… Meek?? Talk about a misnomer!
Calm down! Everyone is anxious, being rude to one another will not help. We’re all in the same boat.
Why don’t you stop insulting peopel. Is this allowed on the Treehouse?
It’s not gonna pass, Kari lake isn’t gonna win.
What do you think this article is about.
It’s now shows a difference of 26,011 with 160,021 still to count.
https://apps.arizona.vote/info/bps/2022-general-election/33/0
GO BACK UNDER YOUR ROCK!!!
Chill out, Joe! You are screaming at family!
Hey, I appreciate the sentiment, but my family don’t talk like that.
You should be banned.
KL would need 60% of the 160k. That’s just math, I don’t trust the ballots, process or count.
58%…MATH
Translation: 54% Lake 46% Hobbs. Source : Election Center Fraud Desk
We are talking about the needed percenet of state wide votes for her to win at this point. Not the percentage of the last Maricopa drop.
Please go back into your bottle. Lake never had a chance. Stop getting people’s hopes up with this fantasy she’s gonna win.
VOTERS DON’T DECIDE WHO WINS.
COMMUNIST COUNTERS DECIDE WHO WINS.
AND LAKE AIN’T ON THE “WINNER” LIST.
Whoa There Big Mouth!
You workin’ on the inside?
You don’t know anymore than anyone else.
Back off!
Think I discerned this guy as a provocateur a couple pages back …
If they were able to eliminate President Trump, eliminating Kari Lake is child’s play for these people. How unfortunate and sad for America.
You should be banned. All you do is insult people.
This just got censored at CFP.
I don’t know but this whole thing is ridiculous. Florida had everything done and reported by 8:30pm on Election Night.
I bet the whole Country was a landslide like Florida.
CFP is really censoring.
What is “CFP”?
“adjudication board” reviewing ballots at the Maricopa County Tabulation and Election Center in Phoenix:
Latest Drops Today:
Maricopa County released 97,000 ballots tonight.
Kari Lake won ONLY 54.6% of the votes! From election day!
County officials insist Independents are going for Katie Hobbs and Democrats.
Kari Lake will need to win about 70% of the next dumps in all counties combined to pull ahead and beat Katie Hobbs.
Finchem and Masters are finished. Sorry, no hopium to sell you today.
I already realized kari is not going to win she talks too much. Ditto most of our candidates. Laxalt in nevada said the dem needed 63 percent of the remaining vote to win. Well, my gosh, they got precisely 63 percent of the remaining votes and won.
People need to shut up and hold their cards to their chest. Kari is done. Finished. Election stolen and what exactly are her lawyers supposed to do…
Hobbs.. yuck
She might still win. Only 26k behind right now.
I figured they would only let Lake squeak by. Or maybe the fraud cabal will just take it all. Its not like a judge would ever hear the case for election fraud.
Good to see a reasonable and sober comment.
They will let her squeak by for two reasons only. She has the goods on them and they fear the people of Arizona will go “Americas Life Matters” on them.
Kari’s lawyers SUCK BIG TIME
They “somehow” never appealed the court’s denial of their request to extend voting in Republic areas by three hours, to make up for the three hours the Communists had shut down the voting machines that morning.
What was done to Trump is being done to Kari. “Friends” ready to serve as lawyers, advisors, helpers, who are really enemies in disguise are set up layers deep for them to choose and be brayed:
Mad Dog Mattis
Barr
Wray
Bolton
and the list goes on and on.
On the surface our enemies act stupid like the drunken martial artists, but layers deep they are evil and deceptive.
BS….Kari has great lawyers here in AZ.
Wasn’t enough time to appeal and she has great lawyers here in AZ.
I thought they said they other parts of the suit were still on appeal. The part that is not was extended poll hours since it was a moot point. With new developments they still have enough to file a new case. This one on the behalf of the voters of AZ..
You do know that it’s not Lake and Laxalt’s fault, right?
Nothing, no judge will take this case. We’ve already had this done to us.
They are not viewing a ballot, they are viewing an image. An image ostensibly of a ballot.
AGain, videos can feed fakes.
Exactly.
How many times is the same image of a Hobbs vote presented?
Kari Lake won ONLY 54.6% of the votes! From election day!
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CORRECTION
Kari Lake was ALLOWED 54.6% of the votes. She probably GOT 74.6%. But the Commie Counters STOLE that extra 20% for Hobbs. And will KEEP STEALING UNTIL HOBBS WINS.
Yes, I know.
More like 58% needed. I don’t know where you got 70% but it’s wrong.
You probably right. 70% might have been for a specific county. Lots of misleading info everywhere.
How would county officials know that independents are going for Hobbs? Party affiliation is not noted on the ballots the county is counting.
The latest drop for Kari Lake, a few minutes ago, is not what is needed. The guys are wondering, for the first time, what’s wrong: they are wondering if the director is STILL purposely playing games with them, taking extra ballots from Dem heavy areas or…..is there something else going on. The drop was 90k, she won, but not by as much as they would have liked.
Since all this post election slow walk has started, I asked myself what non Congressional R candidate do the Dems MOST WANT AND NEED TO LOSE? Kari Lake.
They would cheat and cheat and cheat to get that to happen.
I saw the live feed from Charlie Kirk & Co., who I assume you mean to be “the guys”.
When the drop hit their crestfallen look like Charlie Brown after Lucy pulled the football away shows they needed come to this site and read what’s here. I got blocked to moderation when I said at CFP go read “Conservative Treehouse” so I redid it with “Tr££house” and it got through.
I believe Devin Nunes used the California ballot harvesting system the last time he ran to thwart directed attacks on him. He won overwhelmingly. This needs to become the paradigm or face extinction.
EDIT: CFP has now scrubbed my comment advising to check out the analysis at this site.
What is CFP?
Citizen Free Press http://www.citizenfreepress.com
Thanks.
Not very “free” then, are they?
Tyler works for the RNC…Sundance says the RNC knows what’s up. Why didn’t Tyler seem to know?
Never followed Charlie, Tyler, until I stumbled upon them on Rumble five, six days ago. Since then, I’ve been smoking, snorting, and drinking their “Kari’s Going to Win” message. Stupid me.
The list of whom I will not be listening to or following ever again in the political world is very long.
At least a dozen War Room regulars have lost ALL credibility.
Beginning with Boris Epshteyn and John Fredericks. Super cheerleaders but ultimately as vacuous as those cheerleaders on the sidelines at football games. And not nearly as pretty.
They believe there own sh*t.
None of them are willing to see the truth.
Voting is done in this country.
We have 2 ways to deal with this.
We either do what they do and ballot harvest or we fight a war.
There is nothing left.
Ha, ha, Waymore. Ditto here!
PLEASE STOP CALLING IT A “DROP”!!!!
IT’S NOT A DROP!!!!
IT’S THE LATEST VOTE THEFT IN A GRAND SCHEME TO STEAL THE GOVERNORSHIP!!!!
STOP LENDING CREDIBILITY TO THE *BULLSH!T STORY* THAT “COUNTING” IS BEING DONE!!!!
THERE’S NO “COUNTING”!!!!
THERE’S ONLY BALLOT FABRICATION!!!
More like dangling bait.
Of Course. Kari is the most MAGA like figure being elected, AND she knows the media game because that was her profession. She was the first one to call them out for slow walking the results.
Let’s not act like we believe that the ballots are legitimate. We know better. Don’t accept their narrative.
The narrative doesn’t matter; the problem is we have to accept the election outcome as a result.
One possible approach is to convince republican state legislatures to enact special rules for selecting the electors for president. The state legislatures have Constitutional authority to determine how electors are chosen. No governor or court can override their decision.
If that is who holds the power of change
That is where the pressure
Needs to be!
We need lists of every state legislator
Where they live,work or play and we need to get in faces and let them know how we feel 😏
I hate adopting the tactics of the demsheviks, but at this point it’s them or us, so I guess I’m in. There’s no turning back now.
Isn’t the RNC guilty of fraud or breach of contract for not donating our donations to Candidates and for not deploying lawyers to “fight for election integrity” like they claimed before we donated? Last I checked Ronna is into our pocket $200 Million + not counting interest. Racketeer rat faced b!tch that she is.
The RNC is some kind of “private club.” They are not governed by any laws. They can allocate funds as they please. It looks like McConnell and/or McCarthy will only allocate funds to candidates who promise to elect them as speaker. So it is really McConnell and McCarthy who decides who gets to win, not the voters.
Which is why they do not deserve even one cent of our donations. Donate directly to the candidate you support and bypass the graft machine.
Several years ago here in Washington State I went to the DMV to renew my driver’s license.
Washington State has Motor Voter. The clerk simply asked if I was a US citizen and allowed to vote (I answered yes) and she marked the box.
This bothered me. I telephoned our Clark County Auditor Gregg Kimsey directly and voiced my concern which he immediately rebuffed. He said the process was working within State Law.
I asked if any illegitimate voters would be purged in the next audit. He said he had no power to do that and would require the State of Washington Attorney General’s office to challenge each and every one of those added to the voter rolls. To prove their statement false.
I hung up the phone shaking my head.
Republican Kimsey, backed by the Washington Republican party. is the number one problem to fixing anything in Clark county.
He’s been in his government position, what, 20 years?
Kent was the wrong and totally flawed candidate but we’ll never know how much cheating defeated him.
https://www.ine.mx/electoral-registry/
In Mexico, the vote is universal, free, secret, direct, personal and not transferable. All persons with Mexican nationality, by birth or by naturalization, who are 18 years of age or older, and have an honest way of living, have the right to vote. However, in order to exercise this right, the law establishes certain additional requirements such as registration of the citizen in the Federal Registry of Voters and possession of a photo-voting card, which is issued free of charge by the Federal Electoral Institute.
Same in the US except felons can not vote, and unlike Mexico there is no “honest way of living” requirement.
So what’s your point?
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And Mexico is still a raging dumpster fire.
Eureka! Sundance has done it again.
There is NO OTHER blogger or journalist out there who can do this kind of research and analysis that clearly explains what just happened. This article should be at the top of every news outlet, blog and social media. Sundance is telling it like it is, not like certain “conservatives” want it to be.
No Red Wave, just a Tsunami of Cheating that the criminally stupid Republicans should have been prepared for.
Talk about a lack of intellectual honesty- I just watched a bit of Levin’s show and it made me sick.
He had every excuse in the book for why the R’s lost except the right one. Of course he can’t tell the truth because he’s on Fox although maybe when he’s on his radio show (which is independently owned) he will be more forthcoming with the facts.
Do a Google search for “Ballot submission assistance” and see what you get.
I was shocked to read what my own local NY Board of Elections had on their website about absentee ballots. They have new instructions that are basically cheat sheets!
From here on out I have zero tolerance for anyone who p****** on my leg and tells me it’s raining.
It’s over seneca. I’m so sorry to look at it this way.
We are never winning an election again.
The democrats will fight over who is gonna win the next elections.
Nope, he says the same things on the rsdio, AND he’s a DeSantis groupie. I like him a lot less than I used to. But they’re all doing that now.
How on earth are we going to put an end to this corruption.
The corrupt are no longer required to be clever , brilliant ,stealthy or even undetected.
In every instance they are caught red handed. Even so they not only go Scott free but their corrupt efforts prevail and they gain the benefits of their deceptions.
With the efforts of a 100% corrupt DNC. At least 30% corrupt RNC and in essence a 100% corrupt judiciary when considering the judge shopping and appeals process . Anything short of an ugly civil war is destined to fail.
Please someone give me some reason to be optimistic .
We are being overrun by criminals ,both citizens ,and illegals who we are being forced to financially assisted in the steady process of bankrupting out future and destroying our great country .
I’ve observed that a well placed .45 ACP slug stops cold the most brazen criminal. You might consider your vote to be your intellectual property; or just “your property”. Some, but very few, states allow deadly force to protect one’s property.
That’s a long shot in a court (pun intended), though, so probably not the best means to stop these commie criminals….at this moment in time.
Jim, wait till the power goes out, wait till the food runs out, wait till the basic prescriptions and off shelf meds run out, wait till diesel, gasoline and gas run out. All of this are only a partial list of items that for the most part are all reliant on each other for either production or delivery. It’s going to be a cold winter.
bverwey
Jesus is coming soon!! 🙌🙏
For God’s sake I hope so!
As you described this has all been planned. All they talk about in my county is vote by mail, ballots going out. The people will never win another election. Unless this whole ballot/vote by mail/ ballot assistance is eliminated. The uniparty is working together. This is the worst example, this election, yet all the talking heads (conservative) never mention the massive cheating, ballot dumps in the middle of the night. All the close races go to the Democrats. We need to get back to voting on paper ballots on one day , election day. It will never happen !
cross posted at https://freedomaustralia.freeforums.net/thread/2892/modern-uniparty-electioneering
Well, if they cheat Kari out of it…
…she is then free to run as the VP with President Trump in 2024.
(Hat-tip to Dutchman, I think he was the first I saw suggesting this…)
Trump will not win if cheating is allowed to happen. Plus all the new illegals.
Plus all the DeSantis groupies.
What makes you think they would win. Your in a fantasy world.
By 2024 no one will care.
AFTER ALL THAT’S HAPPENED THIS WEEK YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT RELYING ON THE SAME CORRUPT “VOTE” SYSTEM TO ELECT TRUMP IN TWO YEARS????????
HAVE PEOPLE GONE MAD?????
They’re lost.
The hopium is absolutely real with some of these people.
The country is lost. There is no 2024. Get food, security devices, and God. It’s all going to hell. In 10 years, we’ll look back at this as the good times.
Or Speaker of the House
Good ticket but unless the mail in votes and auto registration scams, as outlined here, are withdrawn I don’t see it happening.
bverwey
Than they both can be destroyed. We need Generals for the militia . Not candidates for a predetermined election. This mid term proved our votes do not count .
That’s the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard.
TRUMP AND LAKE ARENT GOING TO WIN!
ffs… can’t you see what they just did?
Did you read the article?
You aren’t winning a damn thing and Trump will be lucky if he’s not sitting in a prison cell with the j6ers.
It’s over. They have decided to steal it all. https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/elections/2022/11/13/arizona-governor-election-latest-results-katie-hobbs-kari-lake/10693283002/
azcentral.com ought to be renamed azpravda.com. It is writing like this that exposes their bias: “Lake, 53, is a former television news anchor who zoomed into the national spotlight and several Saturday Night Live sketches as she adhered to false claims of widespread election fraud championed by former President Donald Trump.”
PLEASE FORWARD TO ATTORNEY HARMEET DHILLON who is in Arizona now fighting for us, and KARI LAKE.
Harmeet works for the RNC. Is she a poser? Because she should know all of this already. But by all means, tell her.
No but she is a damn good lawyer. One of the best!
“ballot submission assistance” programs.
So people are calling, texting and showing up at homes to assist them how to vote? Is that how it works?
Play close attention to who tries to explain it away. Those are your paid for double agents
KNOCK IT OFF!!
WRITING IS ON THE WALL!!
LAKE WILL LOSE!!!
IT’S ALREADY DETERMINED!!
I will have to agree with you only because other than Senate seats, Kari Lake is the Donald Trump of another sex and a younger generation.
The writing was on the wall on November 8 when they ****ed with the voting machines, therby disenfranchising thousands of day-of voters. Remind me now who votes day-of?
When the despicable POS judge denied the extension to the hours of voting, I knew Kari Lake was finished.
Many of our conservative leaders, like Mike Pence, Mitt Romney, Liz Cheney and Ben Shapiro, did tell us that if we just stopped obsessing about voter fraud, real and imagined, and moved on from the election of 2020, then the 2022 election would be virtually fraud free.
I’m so glad they were right and were looking out for our best interests.
Can you say FRAUD?
Glad to see you back, Sidney. If anyone knows, it’s you.
We need witnesses and judges who’ll listen.
That explains two things…
1). Why they shut down Trump’s voter integrity project when he was first elected which would have done state matches on voter rolls as well found illegals on voter rolls
3). Biden’s open borders to bring in 5 million more illegals to add to voter rolls via motor voter adds that go to SOS even if they are here illegally.
There is at LEAST 10 million illegals this year alone.
Total overall most likely 35-50 million.
Seems like the only real cure is to abandon the idea of a secret ballot. Everyone who wants to vote needs to do so as a matter of public record, so that they (and everyone else) can see who they voted for…for years afterward if need be.
Good luck with that.
That would be better than what we have now.
Votes occur when a Citizen presents him/her self with identity proof in order to produce a “valid ballot”.
“Ballots” occur whenever “data” describes the “person on the ballot” as a Citizen who then receives a “mail in ballot”.
For instance, Jane P. Doe gets a driving license. Then she moves and buys a new cellphone. Then she gets married and sets up a new residence. That is now 5 identities of Jane P. Doe. Or 10 identities of Jane Doe and Jane P Doe. or 20 identities if Jane Paula Doe. or 40 identities if Jane Pamela Doe. All because each instance of a single change in data reference “creates” a “new” Jane Doe variant with a provable, digital, identity.
This is how “Ballot Harvesting” swings elections. True identities are “cloned” onto “new identities” for the purpose of vote fraud, but the action of doing this is hidden behind the provably different identities of the cloned individual. This is how “Mail In Ballots” in the USA change elections. The “Original Jane P. Doe” votes one time. But the “cloned” Jane P, Jane Paula, and Jane Pamela, Doe, vote 39 times. And each “ballot” can be proven to be “different” by virtue of cell phone number change, address change, name difference, etc.
This is why verified voter ID is necessary. Computers allow for “phony” voters to be allocated “ballots” that are false, but still get counted.
This is how nations are subverted, legally, and with digitally provable references that avoid scrutiny.
This is why paper ballots with verifiable ID and fingerprint augmented signatures are necessary. To prevent Fraud.
America is being “legally” subverted by organized fraud.
This is why all the illegal aliens are being allowed into our country. They will be the new “voters” for all the new “ballots”.
After Bannon signed off the Warroom election night, on comes Charlie Kirk and the rest of his frat boys. They were working the Arizona numbers and announced Kari Lake, Masters and the AG candidate could not lose, fist bumps all around. It was a lock. This is the level of naivete that we are up against in our own ranks.
naivetestupidityI suspect they couldn’t of without ballot fraud.
Yeah, but I just watched them a few hours ago. They were not confident. I can’t blame them. The numbers seemed to add up until the days of counting and now they don’t.
The only thing that bothered me was when one of the guys mentioned getting a lot of people telling him that there was cheating, and he rattled off something about having people on the ground watching everything and it was just that “we” need to win over suburban voters, etc. That’s when I turned it off.
Something is all wrong in AZ with Kari Lake.
YEah, Kirk and the guys now admit they see that Dems skirted the charge of ballot harvesting, but they still went to people’s homes and center and offered cookies…why Lake’s team didn’t know this, I don’t know, but it seems to me there is a very ingenius plot going on in AZ, maybe even adding ballots expecting that no one will ask for recount after all these days of “counting.”
Did they really go to peoples’ homes? Or did they “cure” the ballot themselves?
It should also be said…
States like Florida, or prior red states won’t matter.
Once the socialist Dems control the WH, Congress, and judicial….
They can force any election laws on the states that they want to and the courts will uphold it. Not just election laws….their entire agenda.
Unless some miracle breaks this….
The Republic is lost.
You are correct if we are not willing to take to the streets and fight for it. The cancer that will kill America is cowardliness . Corruption has always existed. People of courage always there to battle evil. Men of courage are becoming an endangered species. Heck , men and women are endangered species . We now have something in between. “Americas Life Matters”.
“that’s how the voter rolls expand”
This is how they did it in Venezuela, registering with food boxes.
I wish folks would stop with the Pollyanna stuff. These are engineered results. You don’t have to sit on the edge of your seat waiting for the next “batch” of ballots. They know what they need to get the result they want and it will be delivered. The know the margin of victory they want too. It’s already determined. Yes, it’s 100% Stalinist and it’s the USA in 2022. That’s our reality.
The opposition party you and I have been supporting for 50 years has been sleeping with the enemy at least that long. Most of the truly awful laws that have been passed in the last 50 years happened with GOP leading congress and the WH.
“…………..happened with GOP
leadingmasquerading in congress and the WH.”fixed it for ya….
Flashback
This is How Liberal Media Reacted in 2020 After Iowa Democrats Pulled a Maricopa
https://rumble.com/v1ty9qi-dont-be-fooled-this-is-how-liberal-media-reacted-in-2020-after-iowa-democra.html
Forming a third party would be futile. The uniparty would just steal the election from us again.
@Sundance or other Admin, are you sure that the link to the Arizona Artists Guild page (that doesn’t work) really has anything to do with voter registration? I found a cached copy of the page but it looks to me like it’s likely just a program to solicit donations to help starving artists pay for submissions of their works to art exhibits and shows. I have a screenshot of the page if you want it.
I know that the last thing the Conservative Treehouse would want is to draw negative attention to anyone due to an honest mistake.
RIP MAGA. I knew the end was near when Steve Bannon kept saying, “These midterms will be the end of the Democratic Party.” Such hyperbole never leads to anything good.
Bannon is like a mouse that roars.
I love Sundance (my wife is tired of me mentioning his handle).
But it was unlike him to say Laxalt, Masters, and Lake were going to pull this out.
I think he dared to hope.
It’s clear the new norm is rigged elections.
I didn’t notice him saying the 3 would win for sure.
Please read his 11/10 post, “Lauren Boebert Wins…”
Thanks Greg. You are correct.
At the time I also thought Laxalt in Nevada, Lake and Hamadeh (AZ) would win. I was basing that view on Charlie Kirk and the others. I don’t think it’s an exaggeration that they have extensive knowledge about the Arizona vote but they did not foresee the present results. A 50k vote dump was announced today that was not revealed about before and it was low 50’s for Kari which is bad news. She needs slightly higher.
As sundance pointed out, in person voting seems to be more predictable but Mail In or dumped ballots over a few months are impossible to predict to the Democrats advantage. You can add thousands of these ballots but it’s hard to cheat on in person votes.
Kirk and the guys gave it there best shot but even they were fooled and there not pretenders. I believe a Kari win was the only one that Charlie was certain about and confident in the others. I think Kari was also confident based on their projections or similar ones.
Eric, good to see you here – GiantGrit
Seems like our only hope now is if an undetected large meteor hits DC.
Same odds as wining a billion dollar lottery.
I was told that mail in ballots were about an inch shorter than in person ballots—thus assisting adjudication for in person. Now the possible source of these shorter ballots is dawning!
Question Sundance…is it your opinion that mass ballot printing is effective for Dems because they do a better job of collecting said ballots from prospective voters or do you feel they are determining who’s not voting and hijacking those ballots to boost their numbers?
Other words, can populist candidates compete under this system by applying a different approach or are we damned to lose no matter what we do going forward?
The Democratic Party Ballot Collection is on full display in Arizona. Kari Lake is on the cusp of being defeated. By this time tomorrow – oh well a tough lesson hopefully will end up being learned – by us!
And just like that selection season is over.
Gosh that was fast.
Steve Bannon on Warroom is really impressed with you, Sundance.
He also brought up your analysis of ballots v. votes.
Given how much Bannon has gotten so wrong, I’m not sure being impressed by him is such a good thing.
My local talk radio hosts love CTH. That’s how I found it!
All of the speculation on the remaining uncounted votes/ballots is irrelevant.
The whole thing is rugged coast to coast with exception of maybe Florida.
Note: all federal seats (House and Senate) went to Dems or Rinos with 2-3 exceptions.
All high level state offices – ditto.
The fix was/is on AGAIN in everyone’s face.
Therefore, there will be no changing of laws to stop this.
There are only 2 choices remaining, as sad as the realization is: either the military intervenes or civil discord and strife rising to a rebellion, Revolution, civil war or insurgence.
Without one of those two scenarios, we are lost!
I’m not hopeless, but I am pragmatic.
If the military intervenes, it will be for the State (their paymaster), not the People.
A standing army is one of the greatest mischief that can possibly happen. Without standing armies liberty can never be in danger, nor with large ones safe. A standing military force, with an overgrown executive will not long be safe companions to liberty. The means of defense against foreign danger, have been always the instruments of tyranny at home. Throughout all Europe, the armies kept up under the pretext of defending, have enslaved the people.
– James Madison (“The Father of the United States Constitution”)
Florida was part of the plan. Making DS look good helps the plan to promote him as the GOPe alternative to MAGA Trump. We were led to believe that DS was God like and solved ALL election related problems in FL The Strings attached to DS help us see that what appeared as a Red Wave was a string planned event.
And Dominion is in FL as well as ERIC…ready and willing.
So the DNC, with the RNC’s tacit approval, has institutionalized election fraud via ballot fraud..
The DOJ is silent. (silently helping)
At this point it will take a shift to 70/30 climate for us to squeak out a 50/50 rigged win.
…it seems to be growing in the 60 /40 to 70/30…direction. ; )
Feel free to nourish the growth. : )
Love thy neighbors
sundance is definitely right. One Arizona university had a 98% vote for Hobbs. Looking back when my wife and I were looking after my Mom, I could easily have doubled my vote by “helping her” fill out and sign a ballot. I’m sure I could have also convinced others that couldn’t be bothered to go to a polling station, to sign a mail in ballot.
I recall various party reps offering care home patients and others that couldn’t go to the polls to give them free rides in a van to a polling station. A relative of one of those “free riders” accused a party rep of telling the elderly voter who to vote for. The accused culprit was a young leftie female.
Like others here, we were expected to vote yourself at a polling station or provide the election officials with a credible reason why you couldn’t get a ride or other means to vote by mail. Voting in person was your duty but the Democrats, their corrupt media and the squishy or complicit GOPe can control and change any narrative or tradition they wish.