As the political discussion centers on the 2022 wins and losses from the midterm election, one thing that stands out in similarity to the 2020 general election is the difference between ballots and votes. It appears in some states this is the ‘new normal.’
Where votes were the focus, the Biden administration suffered losses. Where ballots were the focus, the Biden administration won.

Perhaps the two states most reflective of ‘ballots’ being more important than ‘votes’ are Michigan and Pennsylvania. Despite negative polling and public opinion toward two specific candidates in those states, Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer and Pennsylvania Senate candidate John Fetterman achieved victories.
Whitmer and Fetterman were not campaigning for votes, that is old school. Instead, the machinery behind both candidates focused on the modern path. The Democrat machines in both states focused on ballot collection and ignored the irrelevant votes as cast.
Since the advent of ballot centric focus through mail-in and collection drop-off processes, votes have become increasingly less valuable amid the organizers who wish to control election outcomes. As a direct and specific result, ballot collection has become the key to Democrat party success.
The effort to attain votes for candidates is less important than the strategy of collecting ballots.
It should be emphasized; these are two distinctly different election systems.
The system of ballot distribution and collection is far more susceptible to control than the traditional system of votes cast at precincts.
A vote cannot be cast by a person who is no longer alive, or no longer lives in the area. However, a ballot can be sent, completed and returned regardless of the status of the initially attributed and/or registered individual.
While ballots and votes originate in two totally different processes, the end result of both “ballots” and “votes,” weighing on the presented election outcome, is identical.
While initially the ballot form of election control was tested in Deep Blue states, through the process of mail-in returns under the guise and justification of “expanding democracy,” a useful tool for those who are vested in the distinction, I think we are now starting to see what happens on a national level when the process is expanded.
The controversial 2020 election showed the result of making ‘ballots’ the strategy for electoral success. Under the justification of COVID-19 mitigation, mail-in ballots took center stage. Ballot harvesting by Democrat operations was one term for the outcome.
Democrat party officials and political activist groups knew how to exploit the opportunities within the new system of ballot distribution and collection, and when you combine that with a massive legal pressure campaign to accept any and all forms of ballots, well, you can see how they are dependent.
Now that ballot collection has been shown to be a much more effective way to maintain political power, Democrats in a general sense are less focused on winning votes and more focused on gathering ballots.
When ‘ballot organization’ becomes more important than ‘vote winning,’ you modify your electoral campaign approaches accordingly. It might sound simplistic, but inside the distinct difference between ballots and votes you will find why refusing debates is a successful strategy.
If you are trying to win votes you could never fathom campaign success by refusing to debate an opponent. However, if your focus is centered around ballot collection, the debate is essentially irrelevant.
It’s time for voters to start seeing the difference between elections decided by ballots and elections decided by votes. Perhaps the 2022 midterm election will awaken people to the two completely different electioneering systems.
You can vote at any scale you want. However, when ballots are more important than votes – the election will always favor the former.
Michigan and Pennsylvania voters are likely very unhappy today, while Michigan and Pennsylvania ballot providers are smiling.
If Democrats had to win individual ‘votes’ to gain election success, they would be at a disadvantage. As long as Democrats only need to gather ‘ballots’, they have a path to winning elections. The processes of electioneering are all modified accordingly.
Campaigning, advertising, promoting, debating, hand-shaking, crowd attendance and venues for rallies, along with physically meeting people and convincing them of your worth, are only important if you are trying to win votes. Fortunately for Democrats, modern electioneering via ballot collection does not require these arcane efforts. So, in the larger picture of what you now see in elections, Democrats have stopped wasting time doing them.
Republicans are running around trying to convince people and win votes. Meanwhile, who needs voters? Democrats have skipped all of that old fashioned stuff and modified all of their electioneering systems to quietly and efficiently collect ballots. Yesterday you saw the outcome.
Haven’t you noticed?
It really is that simple.

Obviously we can’t vote our way out of this.
SD’s big picture is a painful reality, some group just has to submit ballots e.g. vote for the people who are not voting.
Not enough voters get out and vote.
lmao, theres to many people voting
That’s not the problem , there was massive turnout just like in 2020 but as many have already said it doesn’t matter how many votes you get the dem’s will STILL steal it.
You’re almost there. There AREN’T ENOUGH VOTERS to get out and vote when the Democrat machine swamps the ballot box. The GOP had better start playing the game, if those are the rules.
The two tiers of justice will not allow that, even if we as principled people would.
Yup, watch politicians, FIB and the courts suddenly mobilize and scream that the sky is falling as soon as one GOP got caught. You can bet the person would be in solitary for life with daily beatings.
“Republicans and Independents stayed home” is certainly what the media pundits are saying, but personally I don’t buy this as the reason for the fiasco we are witnessing. SD’s point is that collecting and counting “ballots” can easily be manipulated by unscrupulous election crooks. How many ballots that were mailed never got to where they were supposed to go or never got counted? We will never know. It’s not too hard to open an envelope and if you don’t like what you see, to toss it in the shredder. Then we have the issue of the hired Drop-Off Ballot Box stuffing Mules, which was so expertly illustrated in the Dinesh D’Souza film about the 2020 election fraud evidence, “2000 Mules”.
In FL there are Voter ID laws now etc and less chance of fraud. “Election Month” instead of “Election Day” gives the Dems plenty of opportunity to come up with as many ballots as they need to win. If you noticed FL had their results in quicker than most states. All of their election safeguards are probably one of the main reasons Democrats pulled their funding from Democrat races there. They knew they couldn’t control the outcome there.
Our national free elections in the US may forever be lost. You can blame the feckless, spineless, crooked GOP worms who wouldn’t make election security a priority in their states after the 2020 election fraud fiasco. They were too busy lying that it didn’t happen in order to persecute Trump, the Outsider and REFUSED to even hear evidence from sworn witnesses. Now it is probably too late. This midterm election was our last chance to salvage our Republic. We can’t afford another 2 years of the seditious crook in the WH. Watch our economy go into a death spiral now. It’s so sad given that financial experts were anticipating a huge market rally today if the Democrats were sent packing.
If you are lucky enough to live in a state where a responsible government won’t allow the election fraud schemes concocted by the Democrat Crime Syndicate during COVID, then you might still have a chance at elected representation. With luck you can keep the Democrat Communists at bay for a few years. They still congregate in Blue cities in Red States though, and they will add as many fake people on the voter rolls as they need to win elections in the state. Unfortunately, if you have too many Democrats in the local legislature or a Democrat Governor and can’t pass election security laws, you’re out of luck. The Democrats all rubber stamp the election fraud-friendly laws. If they stay in control in Congress, Biden plans to federalize all those election fraud-friendly schemes. Remember that he doesn’t give a Rat’s posterior about the US Constitution, which gives election law rights to states. The dream of impeaching this POS looks like it’s over.
I think more and more of our fellow citizens like the government as their boss. Look at what New Zealanders and Australians have put up with over Covid. Whitmer did similar in Michigan and frankly, she should have been obliterated at the polls if Michiganders had had enough, but they didn’t.
Covid lockdowns and orders from the government over Covid were test cases. The testers are very happy with the compliance an see a Whitmer being re-elected. There will be more to come the next time around.
I think unions vote 100% for Democrats and ignore issues. Blue states have lots of union members.
They elected her like in 2020, Biden got 81 million votes, sure they did.
Also – Dewine.
Hand count audits and chain of custody are now needed to stop the fraud
Agreed. I would give almost anything for a hanging chad.
The good old days.
Even if fraud isn’t present, mailed ballots and ballots mass collected from likely to be incredibly low information voters too lazy to make the effort to go somewhere to vote greatly expands the percentage of votes from the left side of the IQ bell curve, from the most easily propagandized, and those most likely to be on the public dole and voting themselves a salary.
Before, the vote was at least limited to those willing to get off the sofa and stand in line.
THUS, we have reached the perfection of democracy where even the laziest morons can easily vote!
“As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart’s desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.” – H.L. Mencken (1880 – 1956)
OR a senile puppet.
Not that we weren’t before, but informed voters are now TOTALLY screwed. We’re hopelessly outnumbered.
One thing to keep in mind is that this much is definitely biparty. It’s quite plausible that Democrats may have used this “early voting” system to snuggle in a bunch of fake votes. But I have neighbors who as long-time registered Republicans have very quickly adapted to the whole early voting scheme. So, it seems like that is here to stay.
This is what my belief always has been. I think the “voter fraud”allegations are people incorrectly describing the real problem.
The mail in votes allowed people who were normally too lazy to vote. These people almost always vote Democrat.
This is how Joe Biden gets 12 million more votes than Obama. These people are also too lazy to attend politics rallies which is how Biden wins with hardly anyone showing up to his events.
Until MAGA understands this and focuses on voter fraud, we will keep losing.
Preferably I would like to ban mail in voting, but we will have to play the game first.
We MUST vote our way out of this. We must overwhelm the corrupt system. It happened in several races, it failed in others. Oz gave in too soon in PA. Lake may still pull it off, Masters too. We have to be smarter, lawyer up, and GOTV.
“We MUST vote our way out of this.”
See immediately above.
With mail ballots and mass collection of same, voters are no longer limited to those at least willing to get off the sofa and stand in line.
We have reached the perfection of democracy where even the laziest morons can easily vote.
Informed voters were outnumbered before, but now it’s even worse and that explains WHY there was no “red wave.”
And when you doGOTV, they fortify the counting process with found ballots until they win.
Most have known that since 2020 . I just can’t figure people that kept saying wait until the midterms because that’s when we take back our country . That was never going to happen.
The left was never going to allow the American people to decide their future .
The most cynical were right.
Kari Lake could help clean up Arizona.
The Democrats have numerous organizations and put at least double the resources into “lawfare”.
President Trump and MAGA may have been a decade too late, but I also see no visible signs of his crew organizing legal warfare or strategy efforts. And is anti-MAGA Jared Kuschner really putting together President Trump’s staff in waiting? (Axios article.)
the election has been stolen from her so she can’t do anything
TO quote the “new” PA senator…”Goodnight Everybody!!!”
Most honest DEM campaign statement in 2022
You forgot to mention that this was his greeting BEFORE the debate.
Thats why it was the most honest comment from Dem.
get an armored suit
Pennsylvania elected a turnip.
Is there ANYONE not stabbing President Trump in the back!
I have words for this disgusting person
Former Trump White House Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany says Florida Gov. DeSantis should campaign for Republican Herschel Walker in the Georgia Senate runoff, but former Pres. Trump should delay his Nov. 15th announcement and stay away from the race
Posted by: Mark1971 at November 09, 2022 01:37 PM (xPl2J)
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Trump doesn’t put Louboutins on her finely chiseled feet plus she’s a lawyer and they blow with the wind.
she’s right
That seems to be the rub at the current time.
Democratic and Independent voters are moving away from the party of destruction.
These voters are more comfortable voting for a Republican but feel that they cannot support a MAGA Trump Republican.
Then why are 1 in 5 people at Trump’s rallys registered Democrats?
MAGA is a big tent under trump.
If Trump gets involved and Walker loses, he’s done.
You dont win in a fixed system. Georgia is a fixed system
Walker can’t win that race , it’s already set up for the steal.
You have that completely wrong. We are done.
She is a snake.
Excellent point, and it shows McEnany’s statement to be wise.
News flash , the Georgia race is already in the bag for democrats .
LOL….good job toeing the Uniparty line there….looking for an administration job are you?
a ballot isnt a vote until it is cast. so the folks collecting ballots arent breaking any laws. The unelected official (administrative state) and Elected SoS turning illegal ballots into fake votes is breaking the laws and constitution
The 2000 Mules video indicated that in some states it is only legal to collect and drop off the ballots of those in your immediate family. Philadelphia’s 1,100 mules were identified making an average of 50 dropbox visits each, resulting in 275,000 illegal mule votes, without which Trump would have won Pennsylvania’s 20 electoral votes. Shockingly without the illegal mules in just 3 swing states President Trump would have won the election with 279 electoral votes to Biden’s 259. And that’s only 3 states and just one of the many election fraud methods used.
Democrats have perfected the art of the ground game where they can get away with it.
In many states ballot collecting is illegal.
It is up to the states’ legislatures and not the courts that is why Judiciary stayed away from this is 2021
Mail ballots alone are the problem, even without fraud or mass collection.
Before, votes were at least limited to those willing to get off the sofa and stand in line.
Now, any low information, easily propagandized voter can easily vote with little to no effort and, therefore, the proportion of them in the vote count is naturally increased because they were the ones previously not willing to get off the sofa to vote.
So, “democracy” has now been perfected to where even the laziest moron can easily vote. Never mind that they don’t understand the implications of their vote.
Like that is going to stop the Democrats.
Many states have institutionalized these schemes, basically making them legal.
Lots of wiggle room built into the collection and counting process.
thank you
Ballots, votes. This sounds like that old adage;
“I consider it completely unimportant who in the party will vote, or how; but what is extraordinarily important is this—who will count the votes, and how.”
You cannot vote your way out of a banana republic.
http://www.prohibitionists.org/background/party_platform/battle_of_athens.html
Watch the vote, then release the ballots as needed my vote stolen again, welcome to the new corporate fascism where elections are played like a chest game moving pawns in and out of the game with no opposition.
same with AZ… sadly
What happened in these midterm elections is the result of a deal made sometime ago by the leadership of the 2 clubs that form the Uniparty with the goal of ending the political career of Donald Trump. The Republican leadership allowed the Dems to win the White House in 2020. But, since Trump did not go in a fetal position after Nov 3rd and Jan 6th, yesterday had to happen. All the Trump candidates were eliminated, Trump was left looking like a loser and a large path was opened for DeSantis for the Republican nomination and the Presidency in 2024. Most likely Reps will get the governorship in Nevada in exchange for the governorship in AZ going to Hobbs.
Since the great USA is now the largest banana republic in world, where the elections are decided by the Uniparty, on Nov 15th, Trump should announce that he is retiring from politics and say: “I leave you with Biden and Fetterman. Go F*** Yourselves!”.
Hogwash. There is no path for DeSantis. If a backroom “deal” was made, it was the unconditional surrender of the GOP in perpetuity….which, by the way, I find entirely plausible.
Lake is going to win so you are wrong on that score. Trump is the reason Rs lost what would have been a 50+ seat pick up is the James Carville narrative. A week ago he was saying the Ds are going to get killed because the economy stupid. I agree that the orchestrated outcome is intended to end DJT and elevate Ron.
Remember Joe Pesci’s character in Casino being thrown into a grave while alive? His vote by mail will arrive tomorrow together with thousands of others and will put Hobbs over Kari.
God, I hope I am so wrong.
I’m sorry to say…….This^^^^^^^^ is the answer.
Huh?
BIG DAY for Trump-Endorsed Candidates that Fake News Media Will Not Report – 9 Losses and 174 Wins So Far!
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/11/big-day-trump-endorsed-candidates-fake-news-media-will-not-report-9-losses-174-wins-far/
“All the Trump candidates were eliminated.” What gaslighting !
Trump endorsed candidates actually had a successful win rate of 219 to 16 yesterday.
—- has anyone ever done that before? He’s an awesome force of nature for the America First movement.
He endorsed almost everyone with a chance of winning.
You’re gaslit too, buddy.
Let’s take this fact, as of now, at least 174 MAGA (also Trump backed them) candidates won, vs 9 who lost, despite all the obvious fraud and bs.
What kind of foolishness is it to amplify that into a MAGA (or Trump) loss?
The loser scum are the RINO GOPe degenerates like Cocaine Mitch, Linseed Gayham, and all the rest…
I agree with you, but that’s what they do.
And now Michigan has enshrined mail-in ballots and drop boxes in the state Constitution. Michigan is gone.
Trump’s rust belt strategy is dead. No way we can win there now with the Democrat’s mail in ballot machine. We will have to go back to sunbelt conservatism and bow down to Ron Desantis.
Desantis is not on our team and they most likely would even let him win to fully destroy the MAGA movement and give control back to the Uniparty. It is truly sad some can’t see this.
Correct.
I think a lot can’t see this. This idea of Run Ron Run is gaining traction. But it will implode once Trump can take the gloves off.
Well encapsulated, Sundance. One doesn’t vote their way out of communism.
Lots of work remains to drain the swamp.
It is a slow process … (although, not, considering how long the swampers have been swamping), but with each step of the way they reveal who they are.
I do believe that
– the best IS yet to come.
✝️❤️🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Nuke it from orbit. It’s the only way to be sure.
Here I sit Down Under, comprehending the article written by Sundance, a very poignant one at that. The realization that nothing much has really changed in the past two years.
The disparate divide in voting laws across the nation has created the Voter and Ballot system that Sundance outlined. Until such time voting laws across the nation are the ‘same’. Then nothing will change for the foreseeable future.
I recall there was one state, I cannot recall which one, prehaps someone here in the CTH can enlighten me. That had strict laws on voting, ID, no machines, hand counting and no mail in votes (with few exceptions) to name just a few. To me this was a basis for other states to follow and the path out the quagmire that is the USA voting system.
Regards
Climate Heretic
PS I stopped being lazy and searched the net. A complete run down can be ascertained from https://ballotpedia.org/Voting_methods_and_equipment_by_state>Ballotpedia
This is a start to what goes on each state.
Between the non-existent voting laws, the corrupt, lying media and the evil to the core democrats, I believe in my heart of hearts that the United States of America is done.
I weep for my children and grandchildren. I weep for them.
had a boss who once said to me -don’t bring me a problem without also bringing a solution.
That’s real helpful. . .
What’s your solution then?
The change would be in each states voting laws, to reduce mail-in ballots to those who will be absent from their voting area, or I’ll. Strictly monitored.
Voter rolls updated with ID and address verification. Strict chain of custody rules, enforced by NG.
We are now a dumbed-down, lazy, and corrupted people.
It is getting worse today in PA. Apparently, as the ballot counting continues today, the Democrats are on the verge of reclaiming the State House. If they do so, they will block five state constitution amendments that voters were scheduled to vote on in May.
One of the amendments would require voter ID.
Another amendment would require transparent audits of all voting.
How convenient, they reclaim the house for the first time in 12 years just in time to stop two possible solutions to our voting problems, We are truly screwed.
Well, shit.
The beast Fettershrek winning is beyond belief. How he ever became a candidate is mind boggling.
I’d vote for Shrek but not the donkey.
The fact he won, after the worst performance in a debate in US history, tells you how corrupt the election in PA was. PA is gone until the regular folks take it back.
Agree. His winning was either a literal crime or the democrat run city folks are just as bad or worse than he is.
Isn’t Ballot collection really Ballot harvesting and that is illegal? Flooding the zone with sending out mail in ballots everywhere that no one is checking signatures or the machines turn off the signature verification feature or ballots are adjudicated in the back room , then these are manufactured outcomes. This can’t be fixed by elections.
As written :
“You can vote at any scale you want, but when ballots are more important than votes – the election will always favor the former.”
My brain filtered it to read :
“You can vote at any scale you want, but when ballots are more important than votes – the election will always favor the LATTER (BALLOTS).”
Am I suffering Biden-Fettermann Disease?
I’m a stoic person by nature, I don’t pander to the emotional wants/needs of people, I simply tell it as I see based on facts.
I see only one clear way out but, you can’t mention it and those with the most to offer are terrified to stand up. Essentially, since everyone else has forfeited their 1st and 2nd amendment by proxy, it’s over.
“God helps those who help themselves”.
The people are shamefully no damn help.
A few brave men with nothing left to lose . . .
“I see only one clear way out but, you can’t mention it and those with the most to offer are terrified to stand up. Essentially, since everyone else has forfeited their 1st and 2nd amendment by proxy, it’s over.”
I agree. There is only one way out and unless enough stand up NOW, we’re headed for 1984. There is a very limited window to use the 2nd and 1st because once this dictatorship is in place, modern technology is going to make it very, very hard to overthrow.
How long until Fetterman dies of a second stroke.? Who does Shapiro have in the wings?
Fetterneck’s wife.
Fetterman’s wife and she’s worse than he is. Not from a physical standpoint but from an ideological one.
Appointment of a radical by the Dim Gov. No vote needed.
PA has a constitutional admendment to get rid of this mail ballot system but it is not up for consideration until the spring of 2023. This took a while because of course the Democratic governor would not pass a law that got rid of the ballots.
If the Democrats regain the PA House ;which they are in the process of doing, they will block the scheduled vote in May.
Didn’t know that. Wonder if we could crowdfunding an ad campaign just prior to the vote.
In NY The Conservative Party did a great job of that on a ballot measure –saved money by keeping the ads to a week or so before the ballot measure vote and paid for a radio ad, very effective – they won. Wow that would be a a critical win to eliminate the mail in ballots in PA. Who is behind the measure, is there a specific organization or group?
So… what is the path to victory for Trump in 2024? Or any Republican for that matter.
Just like you said — Biden will be reelected by ballot.
there is none. elections are stolen forever
Mass Immigration + Corruption = Doom
There is no path to victory. Plan accordingly and pay attention to what goes around you and your area everyday.
The country is lost.
… their take is that since there are more ballots than votes, it is more “democratic”.
You know how they are always harping on how we are “a democracy”. Well we don’t have one and it’s their fault.
Democracy helps in maintaining law and order with concept of power sharing. Democracy helps citizens to choose their leaders to run the government by free and fair elections.
Which is also why we didn’t see the demoncraps try to moderate their positions and address the issues that really mattered to the voters. Because they didn’t care about winning the voters over.
I think the polls were correct. I’m sure we will see dozens of articles wondering why the polls were wrong again(how many elections have they been “off”?) . The polls are the patsy for the shenanigans that took place with the ballots. Blame the polling. Nothing wrong with the ballots! It’s just another deep state psyop.
An incredibly important facet for all to understand!!!
While I agree with this analysis, there is more to it than ballots in PA. Fetterman and Shapiro certainly had huge TV ads campaign that effectively smeared Mastriano as a far right extremist. There was nothing from Mastriano to challenge that. As far as Oz, he was accurately labeled an outsider by Shapiro campaign. He never stood a chance.
In PA, it was the lack of campaigning on the Republican side only. IMO, Trump endorsing these two only turned people against Trump.
The RNC did not give financial help to either candidate. The ads you are referring to were overwhelming.
Republican governors wanted Shapiro over Doug.
Mail-in-Mastriano wasn’t far right, but he was too right wing for Pennsylvania. PA is a purple state. We are not Alabama.
Same thing happened to Bolduc in NH. They didn’t lift a finger to help him beat that phony botch.
I wish this were sarcasm.
Before all these mail in ballot schemes Dems use to supply buses to get voters to the polls.
Yes they did
Yes, they don’t need the buses anymore. They have sent them all to the border to bring illegals into the interior of the country.
I think there were far more illegal voting than we know. There were millions more voters listed on the NM voters list, 4 or 5 times the population of the state, and the disappeared on election day.
Remember the thousands of unique last names that Bobby Piton found on the PA rolls, that were then find transferred to the GA poll books?
But at least it was still one person, one vote. Now it’s one vote whether or not a person actually cast it.
Voting Does Not Matter Anymore.
I disagree… It’s VOTERS that don’t matter anymore. Why else did the dems not even bother to address the real issues that the VOTERS have? If they can do it all with ballots and not try to win voters then why do they need to appeal to any of us? They get the votes (thru ballots) they need just by handing over a wad of cash. Much easier and they don’t have to compromise their agenda.
There are several problems for Republicans and their voters. First, they believe in the silly notion of honest elections where the will of the voters reigns. To Democrats, that is just a mocking sound bite. Winning is everything – money, power – to be realized through any means necessary. Second, those in power have the means to stay in power. Law enforcement agencies have become secret police forces for the left to suppress resistance with media lapdogs prepared to amplify propaganda and aggressively cancel dissent. Consider the harsh treatment for anyone agreeing with the former president that the 2020 election was fraudulent. Has anyone heard from Rudy Giuliani or Sydney Powell lately?
Cowardly RINOs and anti-Trumpers seemingly believed that if they played nice with Democrats in power, turned their heads from the tsunami of election fraud evidence, they would emerge in power themselves another day. After last night’s expected Red Wave was but a trickle, America’s honest voters can exclaim to them: “well here’s another fine mess you’ve gotten us into.”
Speaking of votes, you’ve got to love President Trump.
His latest Truth Social post asks why no one is saying he got 1.1 million more votes in Florida in 2020 than RDS got this election.
5.7 million votes to 4.6 million. Just asking!
He is light years ahead of all these people who think they can outdo him.
God love this man!
Not to mention, he’s the one who held the rally in Miami and formed the working coalition that turned this area red for the first time in years.
Trump inspired votes matter!
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
59m
Now that the Election in Florida is over, and everything went quite well, shouldn’t it be said that in 2020, I got 1.1 Million more votes in Florida than Ron D got this year, 5.7 Million to 4.6 Million? Just asking?
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
2h
While in certain ways yesterday’s election was somewhat disappointing, from my personal standpoint it was a very big victory – 219 WINS and 16 Losses in the General – Who has ever done better than that?
Nov 9, 2022
All I can say is that with the current crop of leaders we are cursed with, it is clear that we must be in sin. That’s the message of Israel in the OT. When they fell away from God their enemies got the upper hand over them, the crops failed, etc. To crawl out of this hellish hole will take a lot of prayer, fasting, repentance, and obedience.
Been doing that for 30 years. All done. I saw this coming with R voter apathy, or the damn prolifers for whom there was no other issue, and turned every conversation into one about abortion.
They would have voted for Stalin if he had been prolife. Dumbasses.
Agreed. But, there is a legal process to regularly revalidate the voter roles. And theoretically, accurate voter rolls would affect the ability to mail out ballots.
Comment I just found:
“I feel like the MSM is pushing RDS to run for POTUS so they can flip FL again”
Of course they are…reminiscent of Alaska/Palin.
Rush Limbaugh said it years ago, and at the time I considered it hyperbole: Illustrating absurdity by being absurd.
“The ultimate goal of the Democratic party is to make elections obsolete.”
We’re there.
republicans have to do the same.
This travesty can only continue for so many election cycles without bloodshed.
They should fear the ones that have nothing left to lose.
I’m completely astonished people continue to ‘hope’ that voting will change anything substantial in this country. The longer our society legitimizes corrupt election through voting and the glorification of politicians, the farther we destroy our country.
Our delusion, there is a government! There is no government only corporate control.
Quote: Wendy McElroy
Voting is not an act of freedom. Its an act of political conformity. Those that refuse to vote are not expressing silence. They are screaming in the politician’s ear, you don’t represent me. This is not a process in which my voice matters. I do not believe you.
At the least, half the eligible voters do not vote and probably more. I know many who have stopped voting and they express their reason very clearly.
Fraud crushed MAGA just like in 2020.
Hence “2000 Mules.” In the movie they just focus on a few swing-states however, it is happening everywhere on a very quite $10 per ballot massive scale. Michigan, with proposal 2 just added mass-mailing of ballots with drop boxes everywhere in the state.
We have to stop playing our game or beat them at their own or outlaw what they are doing which is almost impossible.
I am not a constitutional scholar but I do read it and study it to a certain extent and with that in mind I am wondering if Proposal 2 in Michigan or anything that takes away the ability of the State Legislature to make election law violates Article I, Section 4, Clause 1: “The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof;” and is therefore unconstitutional?
Anyways, I am finally glad someone put into words eloquently what I have been saying now since the states of Washington, Oregon and California began using this. When I lived in California and worked for UPS I ran against a long and entrenched Union official in the Teamsters Union and defeated him by 3 votes. The Hispanics loved me but I was astonished that at one of my campaign events which drew easily several hundred union members to it they all brought me and wanted to hand me their unmarked but signed ballots – hundreds of the them for me to mark my name. I refused to accept them that way. They instead filled them out and collected them and delivered them to the ballot box. That – part collection and delivery was not against the rules of the election. I was told this is the way it’s done in the minority community to show your allegiance.
Crazy but 2000 Mules proves it.
Thank you Sundance for stating the obvious – at least for me.
Quite a story…And indicative of the feudalistic victim/savior model of Democrats… I used to mentor young black kids after I retired, and that’s the first thing I told them…That they were not victims, that it was entirely within their power to make themselves a valuable business asset.
Dims tell them they are victims and then proceed to victimize them further.
Below is an e-mail I send to the treehouse admin back in June 2022, asked for comment, and posted in the comments section. 5 months later it is still pretty much spot on. Exactly what the Uniparty wants, the continuing illusion of choice, regardless of what the voters want. Maybe we need another, Battle of Athens (https://www.warhistoryonline.com/instant-articles/battle-athens-group.html?chrome=1🙂
June 8, 2022
I have been saying, that while ‘everyone’, on both the political left and right, see a Republican Tsunami coming when the November 8, 2022 mid-terms take place because of the dire state of our Country due to Progressive/leftist policies (i.e. inflation, gas/diesel/fuel oil, natural gas, food, illegal immigration, Ukraine, & on & on) over the last 18 months, I fear this is wishful thinking that November 8, 2022 will somehow be different than November 3, 2020.
ALL of the SAME State apparatus and machinery is still in place. While some tinkering may have taken place around the fringes in a few Republican States to improve ‘election integrity’, actions in States with Republican Legislatures but Democrat Governors, Democrat SOS, Democrat AGs, not to mention the RINOs, nothing can or has been done to prevent wide-spread fraud, again, of all types. Thus, those ‘swing States’ who stole the election in 2020 are positioned to do it again using the same methods and probably others. That is assuming there is an election in November, at all.
Here is my point, few people are paying attention, it seems, that the Democrats KNOW they are going to get creamed in a blowout in November if they don’t develop a plan(s) and implement it/them to ensure there is no Republican Tsunami and they maintain control of the House and Senate. This is exactly what the Democrats, Transition Integrity Project, did in 2020. They war gamed every possible scenario. Developed plans: A, B, C, D, etc. Then executed them flawlessly to steal the November 2020 election. You know this all to well. Considering this, the Democrats MUST be working on similar war gaming scenarios to prevent Republicans from regaining control of the House and Senate. Yet, I/we (Treepers) haven’t see any thoughts/articles from you regarding this type of activity. To further this view, former BlackRock executive Edward Dowd thinks the coming midterm elections in November may get cancelled. See linked article: noqreport.com/2022/06/07/midterm-elections-might-get-cancelled-if-they-can-push-the-monkeypox-panic-hard-enough/.
Elections in the United States have been won when an opponent concedes and not because one candidate submitted more ballots than another candidate had legal votes.
But all these websites and talking heads on TV and radio told me it’s going to be a red wave.
The polling showed actual voters. Where voters are the system, red wave happened.
This is an excellent portrayal of the system today in a neutral, matter-of-fact manner. Rather than shouting “they cheated”, it demonstrates the ‘new’ path to success. Whether we like it or not, this is the world that the elitists unleashed on us in 2020. Now, we have to figure out how to have success on this new playing field.
We can start by not playing their game, by their rules, on their field.
This is the biggest sting operation in the history of the world! PDJT caught them all
We’ll see what comes of it.
PDJT is not done yet. Neither are we.
PDJT stung them. unofficial ballots cannot be counted in an American Election
It hasn’t stopped them yet did it?
They did again and got away with it once again. Big surprise. Not really.
This was Space Force’s 3rd election acting as the guardians of cyberspace.
BTW, I was curious as to how Sundance was going to portray the mid-term elections after the red wave failed. He nailed it!
I don’t know about all this, but do know this had a good chance to fail and…. IF the races still undecided (with absolutely NO valid reason) wind up being lost by razor thin counts – I want to break the jaws of idiots who likely gave the normies/low info DOPES enough to stay home by pounding, POUNDING, “red wave”, red tsunami”… CHARLIE KIRK, STEVE DACE, GLENN BECK, BANNON, and many more. Mark Levin is the ONLY one I heard warning of how dangerous this was.
And WHAT can one say about states like PENNSYLVANIA who in electorally satanic display are sending Fetterman, FETTERMAN to the U.S. Senate over even Oz with far less flaws, keeping Shapiro, AND who last night also elected a CORPSE in one down ballot race… MICHIGAN who opted to keep Whittmer and a co-marxist lesbian Benson and ALSO VOTED IN FAVOR OF PROPOSITION 3 which now codifiues the mutilation of children and abortion even POST BIRTH. KANSAS as part of their primary rejected the spirit of the Sup Courts rescinding Roe/Wade – Kansas with more registered “republicans” than democrats. There’s lots more and besides NY which I knew would stay marxist having been born and raised in NYC, I’ll leave the rest to others here. The reality? This is now a country where over 50% demonstrate they could care less we’re at the edge of the Abyss and societal collapse. Inflation doesn’t even make my “top 5 concerns”. Symptoms vs Systemic Disease. Too many simply are unable to discern this. BIG problem. Not to worry though… we’ll still have McConnell and McCarty and nearly the same or damn close number of their “-R” collaborators. All of it sickening in the extreme. Past this, I thank God for our Founders infinite wisdom and the Electoral College.
Michigan and Pennsylvania, two states with red legislative bodies in control.
Anyone recall what the constitution says about the time, place and manor of elections?
It’s too awkward for the Republican fan club to point out where election integrity responsibly falls. They do nothing but blame Democrats for what Republicans do!!!
CORRECT you are Dev.
PENNSYLVANIA: ACT 12 and ACT 77 sailed right past the “-R” PA. House and Senate (2020) in outright violation of the PA. State Constitution… upheld by the majority leftist PA Sup Court – later ruling “no standing”.
MICHIGAN: https://www.dropbox.com/s/584r7xtnngauc4t/The%20Navarro%20Report%20Vol%20I%2C%20II%2C%20III%20-%20Feb.%202%2C%202021.pdf?dl=0. 2020: Michigan, AZ., PA., GA. NV., WI. And now Michigan is also poised to lose the state legislature as a reward for the fine job the MI “-R”s have done.