As the political discussion centers on the 2022 wins and losses from the midterm election, one thing that stands out in similarity to the 2020 general election is the difference between ballots and votes. It appears in some states this is the ‘new normal.’
Where votes were the focus, the Biden administration suffered losses. Where ballots were the focus, the Biden administration won.

Perhaps the two states most reflective of ‘ballots’ being more important than ‘votes’ are Michigan and Pennsylvania. Despite negative polling and public opinion toward two specific candidates in those states, Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer and Pennsylvania Senate candidate John Fetterman achieved victories.
Whitmer and Fetterman were not campaigning for votes, that is old school. Instead, the machinery behind both candidates focused on the modern path. The Democrat machines in both states focused on ballot collection and ignored the irrelevant votes as cast.
Since the advent of ballot centric focus through mail-in and collection drop-off processes, votes have become increasingly less valuable amid the organizers who wish to control election outcomes. As a direct and specific result, ballot collection has become the key to Democrat party success.
The effort to attain votes for candidates is less important than the strategy of collecting ballots.
It should be emphasized; these are two distinctly different election systems.
The system of ballot distribution and collection is far more susceptible to control than the traditional system of votes cast at precincts.
A vote cannot be cast by a person who is no longer alive, or no longer lives in the area. However, a ballot can be sent, completed and returned regardless of the status of the initially attributed and/or registered individual.
While ballots and votes originate in two totally different processes, the end result of both “ballots” and “votes,” weighing on the presented election outcome, is identical.
While initially the ballot form of election control was tested in Deep Blue states, through the process of mail-in returns under the guise and justification of “expanding democracy,” a useful tool for those who are vested in the distinction, I think we are now starting to see what happens on a national level when the process is expanded.
The controversial 2020 election showed the result of making ‘ballots’ the strategy for electoral success. Under the justification of COVID-19 mitigation, mail-in ballots took center stage. Ballot harvesting by Democrat operations was one term for the outcome.
Democrat party officials and political activist groups knew how to exploit the opportunities within the new system of ballot distribution and collection, and when you combine that with a massive legal pressure campaign to accept any and all forms of ballots, well, you can see how they are dependent.
Now that ballot collection has been shown to be a much more effective way to maintain political power, Democrats in a general sense are less focused on winning votes and more focused on gathering ballots.
When ‘ballot organization’ becomes more important than ‘vote winning,’ you modify your electoral campaign approaches accordingly. It might sound simplistic, but inside the distinct difference between ballots and votes you will find why refusing debates is a successful strategy.
If you are trying to win votes you could never fathom campaign success by refusing to debate an opponent. However, if your focus is centered around ballot collection, the debate is essentially irrelevant.
It’s time for voters to start seeing the difference between elections decided by ballots and elections decided by votes. Perhaps the 2022 midterm election will awaken people to the two completely different electioneering systems.
You can vote at any scale you want. However, when ballots are more important than votes – the election will always favor the former.
Michigan and Pennsylvania voters are likely very unhappy today, while Michigan and Pennsylvania ballot providers are smiling.
If Democrats had to win individual ‘votes’ to gain election success, they would be at a disadvantage. As long as Democrats only need to gather ‘ballots’, they have a path to winning elections. The processes of electioneering are all modified accordingly.
Campaigning, advertising, promoting, debating, hand-shaking, crowd attendance and venues for rallies, along with physically meeting people and convincing them of your worth, are only important if you are trying to win votes. Fortunately for Democrats, modern electioneering via ballot collection does not require these arcane efforts. So, in the larger picture of what you now see in elections, Democrats have stopped wasting time doing them.
Republicans are running around trying to convince people and win votes. Meanwhile, who needs voters? Democrats have skipped all of that old fashioned stuff and modified all of their electioneering systems to quietly and efficiently collect ballots. Yesterday you saw the outcome.
Haven’t you noticed?
It really is that simple.

Did any of Liz Cheney’s endorsed candidates win? I know that Arizona is not done yet, but I can’t remember who else she endorsed. I hope she just slinks away.
All of my online accounts allow for 2 step authentication. I don’t know if it would help, but what if ballots required a signature and maybe the last four digits of an ID card. Just spitballing here, idk. I’m sure our betters would find something wrong with that.
A ballot cannot identify a voter. That’s the cheat line. Secret ballot means they are untraceable. Means more ballots are easier to fudge into the gray area. Harvesting gives more ballots. The content of the ballot can be revised simply by opening the envelope and replacing the ballot.
The key is all ballots should be serialized. All batches of ballots should be then known to be delivered. Any ballot returned outside of the batches sent is automatically dumped. Don’t make the batches sequentially numbered. Send out random serial# start for each batch. This makes it harder to guess. Add a batch# to the ballot (batch# and serial#). Any ballot that doesn’t match the database gets pitched. Any ballot duplicated with batch# and serial# gets pitched.
All batch and ballot#s that are pitched can then be reported. There is fraud there.
This won’t stop the harvesters who tell their marks who to vote for and transport the ballot. But it will stop the harvesters that use the envelope to get their staged ballot counted.
Vote harvesting itself should be outlawed. It is the primary gaping hole in the process that allows massive fraud to happen.
Mail in ballots are the second thing to be outlawed – outside of some very tight scope – not everyone and their dog, like California.
Lastly, early voting has to be removed. Having weeks to vote is just more opportunity to fudge the vote.
The Dems will go to the mat to ensure none of these issues change.
All of what you said sounds good. It sounds like you have done some real thinking on the issue. When I said ballot, I should have said envelope.
Here in Colorado the barcode is unique to each voter, so when I turn the ballot in, I receive notification that it has been excepted and also when it has been counted. I believe that is a service that each person needs to sign up for.
Demographics have really changed in PA. The younger generations, my daughter included, left PA, having seen the writing on the wall. Everybody you know, same situation. They left for better jobs, better pay, a better economy period. The cities are crumbling around us, along with the roads and bridges. In the meantime, Obama and Biden have graced us with hoardes of illegals and migrants from Afghanistan and everywhere else on earth. By now, many probably vote and vote democrat, because democrats will have told them their government money will go away if they don’t. These people don’t “melt” into the pot. Instead, they form their own micro communities where they don’t need to learn English. How do we EVER get out of this?
We don’t ever get out of this. There are no avenues of escape. There’s no free speech, communication, organization or ability to gather allowed. It’s all about survival for as long as possible but at some point survival for most includes getting chipped, taking all the vaccines, having to use digital currency, and keeping an acceptable social credit score.
Will not comply.
Maybe when enough people freeze, there’s no food in the supermarkets while you watch loved ones around you dropping dead from the jab’s people will begin to rise up .
You now know that you can’t vote your way out of this.
Not true. Baby steps.
Take back your school boards and city councils.
Build from there
You hit the nail on the head.
We, Americans demand instant gratification. Give an immediate fix for my problems.
That’s what’s wrong with us as the opposition. We need to take the long view and understand it will take years of hard effort to get back to what we had. If you think it will happen quickly you will be disappointed every election cycle.
I have seen the foot stomping dissatisfaction of some here stating I’m voting Libertarian or something cuz I hate rhinos. Well we all do hate the fakes. But these same people ignore the counsel of primary the rink’s and vote for the repubs in the general election. We need to do that, every election cycle for the next 20 years.
We need to be preset at the school board meetings, township meetings, whatever….. as often as possible. Change will not come any other way. You can’t yell at the election results and hope it will change things.
Work at it. Whenever and however you can. We have to if we want things to change.
Sorry for the diatribe, I know the vast majority of treepers understand this.
I’m in SW PA..running for any political office and winning as a R is near impossible..you can’t even work for the city or county if you are registered R.
The America we knew and loved is almost certainly gone.
The 2022 elections tell me our masters don’t care anymore about the optics of questionable election results. After stealing certain seats in 2018 and then stealing a presidential election in 2020, they felt comfortable enough handing the Democrats both houses (let’s be honest, Republicans in Congress won’t do anything over the next two years) against the backdrop of terrible polling data for Biden and generic Democrat policies.
We aren’t voting our way out of this mess. The system has been so thoroughly corrupted nothing short of martial law is rectifying things.
Agreed.
Just wait until they get the go ahead to fill in the ballots for all of the illegal aliens.
Currently, I believe that some large percentage of votes cast by Demonrats were completed by someone on their behalf.
All they need is information, and we know who owns the information.
We raised our 3 kids and left 8 years ago. Our kids settled elsewhere. Pennsylvania was not worth the effort, the lockdown by Wolf and the insanity of Dr Levine… we have never looked back.
I’ll be joining you soon!
As a lifelong PA resident (except for my Army time), I have seen a steady exodus from PA for better jobs, better economy, to Red states. This election was the straw that broke the camels back for me. We and many like-minded PA friends are moving to Florida.
THAT’S how we ever get out of this.
We literally just watched them install a dementia patient in 2020. We know.
It’s not about “ballots versus votes”, It’s about verifying chain of custody and who’s in charge of verification. Once this is 100% transparent, America is great again.
Sundance hits the bullseye again. Super analyst. Eyes always on the game.
Finally, this explains the discrepancy between pre-election polls and vote totals.
The question is, what can we do about it?
Taking stock of the 3 proverbial boxes we now clearly have: 1. JURY BOX – FAILED. 2. BALLOT BOX – FAILED as exclusive of what’s known and not known. 3. What BOX remains?
Wildcat strike
Cartridge box.
Pine box!
Harvest first.
I have posted several times that large rallies are fun, like rock concerts, -but they mean nothing, have you noticed Mr. Trump? it’s who counts the ”votes” or as CTH says ballots, which is a helpful distinction. Now, what Pennsylvania and Michigan?? Voting doesn’t work anymore. Will you still mask up and hop around on one leg if ordered? Peaceful noncompliance and sit-ins and general strikes may be unless the illegal politicians use violence. Waiting till the next election wont do. The Dems might run an actual corpse just to really rub it in your faces so you finally get it.
They did, and he was elected in PA. And I am not referring to Fetterman.
Probably some NGO fill out the ballots for him. This should be investigated.
For those who may have missed it in the aftermath: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/campaigns/dead-man-pennsylvania-state-representative. Yes, DeLuca died last month. Even the marxist bird cage liner Guardian picked it up: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/nov/09/pennsylvania-dead-democrat-tony-deluca-victory. I haven’t been through Pa in a long tiome, but it seems to have successfully, and willingly, become a satanic cesspool. What can one say about this section of geography. Soros could run and WIN there. I’m not sure if these would be his victims via his DA’s or his constituents. Take your pick. There’s LOTS mnore of this around this “state”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJ1Wq7gHSyI;
Trump rallies have done mountains of good.
Look at how many more people now know about the corruption. Red pilling happens at every single one.
It was his Miami rally that brought together the working coalition to turn that area red for the first time in years.
President Trump is a fighter. Your psyche seems threatened by his success.
I’m wondering if getting ride of that election supervisor I think her name was sikes. DeSantis fired her for something not to long ago after I think the 2018 election. Which goes back to “IT’S WHO COUNTS THE VOTES! IT’S WHO COUNTS THE VOTES” biden yelled at some supporters a few months ago.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pennsylvania-state-representative-reelected-despite-being-dead
Trump overcame the system and took them by surprise winning 2016 when he was never supposed to win in the first place.
The minute he won they began planning to ensure no maverick would ever pose a threat to them again at the ballot box.
All these vaxxed and double boosted folks dying off will never be taken off the voter rolls and will only become more ballots to be harvested by the dRATS.
We need to go full Brazil now.
Right now, on a national level, Democrats with the complicity of the GOPe could install a lamp post to the WH. So far the complicity, if not participation of the GOPe has been needed. Suspect that in time the Democrats ballot collection strategy will not require any sort of GOPe input. Suspect the electoral college would be eliminated shortly afterwards. Then ballot collection in CA, NY, IL, MI, WI, PA would only be needed.
“here, sign this and mark it here” is how our democracy is circling the drain.. well written
“Our democracy” is the phrase the other side uses. We aren’t a democracy.
The real fascists using government power to censor, surveil, and jail the people they call the fascists.
I knew that it was futile to even waste my time in voting in Michigan with all the corruption in the state. I had been getting letters from the Voter Participation Center for months before this election. The letter was all about me signing up for an absentee ballot with this Democrat PAC knowing how long I’ve been voting and where I voted from in multiple states. If that doesn’t sound strange to you I don’t know what to tell ya.
Same here in N.C.
Yes Flyover, it’s pretty much the same thing that they have done with money. You can earn money, it’s time consuming and requires effort, or you can just have the Federal Reserve arm of the uni-party counterfeit as much as you want. And at the end of that day, that counterfeit dollar has the same buying power as an earned dollar. Sundance makes the same point. At the end of the day, that earned vote only has the same value as that ballot that got conjured up from who knows where.
Speaking of Tea Party. I just saw a Mike Pompeo interview on Fox where he touted that he was in the first Tea Party wave in 2010. So I guess that’s the lane he will try to claim in his quest to become President in 2024.
This is why election audits need to include envelopes and poll books. Here in AZ the 2020 audit did not look at the ballot envelopes or at the voting site poll books, both of which contain the name/address/signature of every voter. We are guaranteed that who we voted for is secret, but not who voted, right? If audits included these then we’d have an accurate count of voter count to match ballot count against, as well as registered party
Good explanation on the method the ‘rats use to cheat. No matter what you call it, early voting, mail in voting, ballot harvesting, etc. are avenues to cheat your candidate in. I would bet that philly harvested well north of 100K ballots. The pubbies better get wise to this or they will never win another presidential election. The “swing” states, mich, penn, georgia, arizona, nevada are all critical to winning the presidential race. The ‘rats know this and have honed their trade on the aforementioned states. Wisconsin is going away soon. Why do I say this, look how close Johson’s race was with a total radical reprobate.
Johnson will be the last R to ever be a US senator from WI and the D’s will own the governorship indefinitely.
Considering that we knew about all of this before the election, how can it be that Democrats couldn’t be stopped from using these illegal tactics again this time around. The question is, what strategies would work to clean up our thoroughly illegal/corrupted elections? A lot of effort seemed to be going into preventing the steal, but to no avail. How can so many people with so much at stake be this impotent/indifferent/inept in the face of annihilation?
These tactics are not considered illegal in many states. Covid changed everything about how elections are conducted.
I think the lame duck dems will try to pass federalized mail in voting despite it being unconstitutional. What do they have to lose?
Dems have a better playbook minorities and people under 30 they tell they are victims already brainwashed from the liberal education system its easy to manipulate them ..They have disengagement form reality syndrome…
They aren’t the only brainwashed/clueless cohorts. I have friends/acquaintances/relatives — traditional backgrounds and longtime citizens — who are every bit as bamboozled and unaware of the dire threat of totalitarianism bearing down on us.
The only solutions I see possible for this:
1. If you live in PA, MI or some other blue state where this is happening, move to a red state and make it redder.
2. Stay where you’re at and register as a Democrat, make it harder for them to know your real intention of voting a straight Republican ticket in 2024.
Don’t count on the GOP to save you, you’re on your own.
“Don’t count on the GOP to save you, you’re on your own.”
And THIS, by the way, is why I would take it with a grain of salt even if there were a legitimate “red wave” yesterday.
The “red wave” of 2010 swept in a ton of new Republicans to the House. That gave us John Boehner as House Speaker, to be succeeded by Paul Ryan. And what good, ultimately, did this new group of Republicans in Washington really do for us?
Luntzes dunce – the minority speaker needs to be off ballot for any position.
Why weren’t the MAGApubs smart enough to vote in his opponent? Gaining the house was never going to come down to just one seat.
He is too busy fortifying his Speakership right now. He wants to work wtih dRATS, Trillion dollar bills, amnesty, open boarders, billions to UKR. Grid up your loins.
Tangential here….throwing it out as food for thought
The whole “DeSantis won by 20 points” thing we’re hearing from GOPe tools is pure propaganda, easily refuted by Rubio’s performance of +17 points.
If a wet-noodle like Rubio can win with +17, it means a monkey could run as a Republican in Flordia and still win with a comfortable margin.
Rubio has a terrible record, has done almost nothing as a senator, and yet wins with +17 means DeSantis only got 3 more points over that. DeSantis actually did horrible in Florida, if Trump had been running for governor it would have been close to +35.
Both DeSantis and Rubio underperformed in a blood red state, as East Coast Boomer republicans are escaping to Florida to try and ride out the last years of their lives in relative peace and comfort, but of course there are tons of Republican voters who think this makes DeSantis the next leader of the GOP (lol!).
DeSantis did not do better than Governors in Ohio, Tennessee, etc, but DeSantis somehow gets lots of free airtime and million dollar donations. Even if DeSantis is able to steal the 2024 primaries, he’ll get smoked in the general and would probably get fewer votes than Trump did in 2016.
As someone who experienced OH,KY, Tennessee & FL during the middle of covid….I beg to differ. DeSantis needs to stay in FL 4 more years, especially since I’m spending more time there on the beach.
the beach where they were arresting people during the lockdown for covid? LOL
DeSantis has been chosen by Deep State backers and the Never Trumper RINO faction to stop Trump from winning the R nomination in 2024. This apparently has the blessing of the globalists and corporate powers.
Stealing a presidential election is expensive and fraught with hazard, even for the monsters currently running the show. Much easier to run two candidates against each other like DeSantis and Gavin Newsom so it doesn’t matter who actually wins. That’s why the Deep State thought 2016 would be a piece of cake with supposed favorite Jeb Bush against Hillary Clinton.
It’s repulsive to see how easily supposed conservatives can be turned against Trump by the usual Lefty strategies being used to weaponize DeSantis against him. After Trump’s glorious presidency, the personal sacrifices he made, and the abuse he has been subjected to, how craven to turn against him when the globalists debut their latest political product.
Several other red state governors won yesterday by larger margins too.
The fourth branch has no doubt decided that this “votes vs ballots” system works well for now and will do whatever it takes to keep the ballot part in place and growing.
The devil is everywhere and into everything. Smart, conniving, and always working to spread his evil.
“the loveliest trick of the Devil is to persuade you that they don’t exist.” “Le Joueur Genereux” 1864
No doubt, the current system gives them more granular control over elections. Which helped any Republican candidates backed by the Establishment, while hurting MAGA candidates.
Did you read the article?
BREAKING from Project Veritas: Democrat New York Election Inspector Deceives Voting System to Secure Official Republican Position at Polling Location
“If I wanted to work and change the system, from [the inside], I had to be a Republican.”
They didn’t just focus on ballots, though. They, ALSO, focused on votes. I find it telling that the day after the election, gas prices went up 20 cents per gallon all across Pennsylvania. Serendipity, of course.
The ballot never leaves control of the Board of Elections.
That means no mail-out ballots AT ALL, except for active duty military.and that also means NO DROP-BOXES.If you want to vote early/absentee, go to the County elections offices and vote. You cannot remove the ballot from the offices.On Election Day, go vote at your precinct.All voting done on Paper with electronic scanning of ballot for quick counting. A legible, readable, marked paper ballot shall be the only method of voting.
All voters must produce a state issued, photo ID in order to vote. IDs provided free of charge by the state.
For voters who cannot go to the precinct or county offices to vote, the county can utilize a mobile/traveling county elections official to go to the sick and shut in. However, they must travel with a person from each political party on the ballot to insure voter integrity. A person must be able to request the ballot and then read and understand the ballot when presented. If unable, they cannot vote.
Red state legislatures had the opportunity to pass legislation like that after 2020, and none did.
Georgia passed some tame bill just to take attention off of all of the ballot fraud of 2020, and they were demonized and punished by major corporations for it.
No states legislators are going to deal with this now because of the financial risk to their state and the political risk to their careers.
DeSantis was fortunate that he dealt with it before all of the racial threats and corporate boycotts that are now used to keep politicians in line.
Why DIDNT the vote counting take 5 days in PA? We heard Ad naseum how the vote in PA would not be decided on election night over and over. WHY then, were they able to decide the winners on election night? What changed?
Fox news needed to be able to call at least one race early.
The cheat they planned this time worked…they front loaded ballots….so they didn’t need to back load ballots later like they did in Arizona.
*** they used the same system and machines as 2020 to cheat – nothing changed
*** this time the cheat was NOT overloaded by actual votes. They didn’t need to to stop and add more
*** they adjusted in that they front-loaded more ballots
*** they also adjusted by changing Paper Poll signature logs to a computerized poll book signature iPad in PA
*** in case anyone would Audit, they would have the ability to mess with the electronic poll signature book
finally, they knew no one would compare the PA ballots cast to the PA registered voters out there…they know the PA legislature would do nothing, they knew the PA Supreme Court would allow no checking… they knew no one would prosecute.
As Sralin said, It’s not who votes that is important, it’s who counts the votes that is important.
And just as the perennial democrat minority base (black and hispanic) was starting to realize they had been sold a pig in a poke for decades and were adjusting their allegiance accordingly. Trump was the first huge recipient of this swing. The democrats/uniparty realized what was happening and made adjustments with much help from media, judges, and the final nail were GOPrick RINOs.
I have also come up with another alliteration for RINO……RINO rats.
BLM riots helped to get everyone back in line.
The GOP survives whether in power or out. Sundance has said this hundreds of times.
The losers in this election are Bannon and all the other talking heads. Worthless sods braying at the moon, mmaaaaagaaa!
Trump should not run. Let the blimp DeSantis crash and burn.
Trump should have stayed out of this election and let anger at both parties grow.
He cares about America too much to do that. He genuinely saw the opportunity Brandon’s “leadership” gave republicans and he helped get MAGA candidates on the ballot.
If elections were about voters, more of them would have won.
The anger at both parties will continue to grow, despite the outcome of this election.
Sundance, the problem with the GOP comes from leadership. What was the message? What made voters fearful of the Democrats? Nothing. Democrats tried to make voters fearful of Republicans? Lots of things. Why didn’t the GOP say Dem policies were gonna make people starve to death? Where was the Dems wanting to mutilate kids? Nowhere.
You take care of the messaging, you take care of the persuasion, everything else falls into place.
IMV, that’s the bottom line. Issues and competence are being defeated by emotional manipulation and electioneering technique. The Biden and Fetterman wins show that Dems could run a trained seal and win.
It’s easy to collect ballots when you send out 250,000 unverified ballots before an election.
Remember Barry buying the ballot machines sotto voce in 2014 and thinking, “Oh fuuudge,” and now here we are. But as the Apostle Luke, Leo Tolstoy, and Linda Hunt said, “What then must we do?”
Hello, Trump h8ting DeSantis fans, this is for You!
FACT: while Gov Ron DeSantis won big in FL, (congrats on 19 pt win) all of the candidates he supported nationwide, outside of FL, they all lost last night. Paper tiger!
So, while Trump has an historically high won/lost record of 174/9, Ron DeSantis has NO National influence now and has never run on a national basis. Won’t work.
THIS fact alone should hit the Ron DeSantis backing Trump h8ters in the face like a cold rag,.. unless of course, they are just trolling Trolls and/or just Never Trumpers trying to carry the Marxist Dim’s water to ruin the MAGA GOP Base by splitting it with a proposed Trump v. DeSantis campaign fight.
Both Donald and Ron are too smart to fall for this dried up hype, be advised.
So,… Get off your High Blaming horse, Ron DeSantis fans, he can’t successfully run nationally; the MAGA Base will not vote for him but will ruin his future chances if he runs against Trump; and the DIM/MSM machine will eat him alive.
Trump has proven he can win nationally (in a fair election) and kicks the DIM/MSM machine’s azz daily.
Next?
But can he win an unfair election?
Not if he tries to hop scotch Trump Daddy
Who is “he”?
Neither can win an “unfair election”, if it’s run anything like the 2020 election.
I was referring to Trump. If Trump doesn’t have the massive support to win an unfair election, then he can’t win in 2024.
Massive support can be beaten at the ballot box with more ballots.
Yes, but then the fraud becomes so glaringly obvious that it can’t be covered up.
President Trump certainly has a lot of support, but he doesn’t have the massive support that some people claim he has.
It is blazingly clear that the GOP wants to be in the minority and wants to avoid real power and responsibility. They want to rake in truckloads of money from everyone while pretending to be opposition, pretending to take a stand, and pretending to campaign. It’s the biggest scam on the planet.
The DeSantis support is largely astroturfed online, reinforced by “conservative” media’s biggest force in Fox News endlessly pumping up DeSantis as a superhero.
The Deep State has played their hand very well, raising Republican hopes through various media channels and then dashing them. What a coincidence Ron DeSantis comes out as the only Republican winner who stood out in the 2022 election. He’s being built up perfectly to run as a “savior” for the party.
But didn’t everyone “follow the plan”?
In 2020, when everyone knew they were going to cheat, we were told that the white hats were watching everything and they needed to catch the cheaters in the act. The result was the media ‘debunked’ every allegation and bit of evidence and all legal cases were fully ‘adjudicated’ with the result that “no one has standing” to challenge election processes.
In 2022 we have been told that the plan is for ‘republicans’ to get out and vote, vote, vote. The ‘republicans’ we were to elect to congress promised to hold hearings, investigate, and impeach on every issue. Except the establishment ‘republicans’ have been working with the ‘democrats’ for decades to form the Anti-American Party. It is the AAP that duped the American People into believing that if we would just vote, vote, vote everything would change. What needed to do was follow the plan and ballot drop, ballot drop, ballot drop.
The goal is demoralization and doing anything possible to set Republican supporters (of all kinds and supporting the GoP for all reasons) at each others throats with recriminations. The elephant in the room is Florida which cleaned its voting up considerably and won on the scale expected of any opposition to the Biden trainwreck. I’m sitting across an ocean and can see even the better commentators falling right into this trap. If everywhere was as clean as Florida your Red Wave would have looked like Florida. If they can demoralize you now, that will never happened, so you need to fix that and fast.
“Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything.” – Joseph Stalin
I don’t think Ukraine is the most corrupt country on earth.
The numbers don’t lie – TRUMP is still a winner!
BIG DAY for Trump-Endorsed Candidates that Fake News Media Will Not Report – 9 Losses and 174 Wins So Far!—-telling
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/11/big-day-trump-endorsed-candidates-fake-news-media-will-not-report-9-losses-174-wins-far/
In person voting will be abolished, but mail-in voting will be mandatory, like submitting your income tax.
Australia already has mandatory voting, and we saw their bizarre authoritarian reaction to Covid.
The fascist mind loves things that are impersonal but mandatory (like wearing a mask, which is roaring back).
The outcome of elections will effectively be in the hands of the mailman (a State official).
Kevin McCarthy moves quickly to secure potential speakership as hard-right group weighs a long-shot challenge
https://amp-cnn-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/11/09/politics/kevin-mccarthy-midterm-results-house-republicans/index.html?amp_gsa=1&_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQIKAGwASCAAgM%3D#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=16680275578801&csi=0&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F2022%2F11%2F09%2Fpolitics%2Fkevin-mccarthy-midterm-results-house-republicans%2Findex.html
Any word on Kari?
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1590440386912477184.html
Whenever I think of voter fraud it reminds me of Ray Stevens song “Grandpa Voted Democrat”
It one of those songs that is kind of funny, but holds so many truths in it.
Ray Stevens – Grandpa Voted Democrat
The Democrats have been ballot stuffing forever. They just no longer care that we see it.
Exactly.
Here in OR they have been cheating for a long time but they are a little more subtle.
Essentially it is one big money laundering scheme and they have to have complicit players in office.
There are trillions at stake.
Ballots, not votes.
Who’s watching the ballots coming in from patients of nursing homes and residents of personal care homes and/or assisted living? We’ve all heard the stories of personal care home staff requesting and completing ballots on behalf of residents, and the residents have no involvement at all in completing the ballot other than signing it. We have more than 1.25 million in nursing homes and more than 800,000 in assisted living. That may not seem like much, but in a closely contested district/precinct, it’s huge.
No-one, as the practice is now accepted as legitimate in many states.
States are not printing and sending out excessive ballots because they intend to follow any rules about how they are collected or counted. They intend to use them all.
I’ve said it a million times before and I’ll say it again . You cannot win until all mail in balloting is banned .
There are 3rd world countries who have banned mail in voting and the reason ………mass fraud .
The only choice we have is to beat them a their own game. Florida recently had registered Republicans surpass Democrats in total registrations. That is a first. If you concentrate on northern blue states and put your millions of dollars to work getting people registered as Republicans, then send out your minions at election time to “help” people get their mail-in ballot cast. That is how they do it.
It worked in 2020 and it worked again .
Sundance, THIS is the absolute dead on truth. How many times did we say this would be coming if there was no reform to the voting process within the states? Some states, like Florida, have tightened the rules and battened down the hatches. It started at local levels and expanded statewide under DeSantis. Result; stronger voting and less ballot harvesting.
Some other states have helped their situation, but not enough. Many others remain, while rulers of blue states only seek to make things easier.
I used to think it was machines tweaked or hacked to facility the steals. Might be some of that, but convinced the great majority is strictly ballot harvesting, illegal ballot submission and use of ballot dumping at drop offs. Finally it’s always likely they have completely fake ballots in boxes ready to stuff depending on circumstances, but in strategic locations only (requires operatives they can absolutely trust).
2018 midterm elections in CA were the pilot program. How many districts did they flip to Democrat? And Speaker Ryan just shrugged it off.
At the time Deven Nunes figured it out. In a post-election interview he pointed out Republicans and the RNC better get their act together about the ground game and ballot harvesting.
I’ve been searching but can’t find that interview. I think it was OAN. Maybe Fox.
The entire GOP laid down and let themselves be gutted by the left under the guise of safe voting.
When you have the deep state manipulating your votes, one does not need to campaign.
Back in 2020, Bide said, “We have put together the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American Politics”, That and “I don’t need your vote”. So, I guess now, this explains it all.
When they tell you who/what they are, believe them.