As the political discussion centers on the 2022 wins and losses from the midterm election, one thing that stands out in similarity to the 2020 general election is the difference between ballots and votes. It appears in some states this is the ‘new normal.’
Where votes were the focus, the Biden administration suffered losses. Where ballots were the focus, the Biden administration won.

Perhaps the two states most reflective of ‘ballots’ being more important than ‘votes’ are Michigan and Pennsylvania. Despite negative polling and public opinion toward two specific candidates in those states, Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer and Pennsylvania Senate candidate John Fetterman achieved victories.
Whitmer and Fetterman were not campaigning for votes, that is old school. Instead, the machinery behind both candidates focused on the modern path. The Democrat machines in both states focused on ballot collection and ignored the irrelevant votes as cast.
Since the advent of ballot centric focus through mail-in and collection drop-off processes, votes have become increasingly less valuable amid the organizers who wish to control election outcomes. As a direct and specific result, ballot collection has become the key to Democrat party success.
The effort to attain votes for candidates is less important than the strategy of collecting ballots.
It should be emphasized; these are two distinctly different election systems.
The system of ballot distribution and collection is far more susceptible to control than the traditional system of votes cast at precincts.
A vote cannot be cast by a person who is no longer alive, or no longer lives in the area. However, a ballot can be sent, completed and returned regardless of the status of the initially attributed and/or registered individual.
While ballots and votes originate in two totally different processes, the end result of both “ballots” and “votes,” weighing on the presented election outcome, is identical.
While initially the ballot form of election control was tested in Deep Blue states, through the process of mail-in returns under the guise and justification of “expanding democracy,” a useful tool for those who are vested in the distinction, I think we are now starting to see what happens on a national level when the process is expanded.
The controversial 2020 election showed the result of making ‘ballots’ the strategy for electoral success. Under the justification of COVID-19 mitigation, mail-in ballots took center stage. Ballot harvesting by Democrat operations was one term for the outcome.
Democrat party officials and political activist groups knew how to exploit the opportunities within the new system of ballot distribution and collection, and when you combine that with a massive legal pressure campaign to accept any and all forms of ballots, well, you can see how they are dependent.
Now that ballot collection has been shown to be a much more effective way to maintain political power, Democrats in a general sense are less focused on winning votes and more focused on gathering ballots.
When ‘ballot organization’ becomes more important than ‘vote winning,’ you modify your electoral campaign approaches accordingly. It might sound simplistic, but inside the distinct difference between ballots and votes you will find why refusing debates is a successful strategy.
If you are trying to win votes you could never fathom campaign success by refusing to debate an opponent. However, if your focus is centered around ballot collection, the debate is essentially irrelevant.
It’s time for voters to start seeing the difference between elections decided by ballots and elections decided by votes. Perhaps the 2022 midterm election will awaken people to the two completely different electioneering systems.
You can vote at any scale you want. However, when ballots are more important than votes – the election will always favor the former.
Michigan and Pennsylvania voters are likely very unhappy today, while Michigan and Pennsylvania ballot providers are smiling.
If Democrats had to win individual ‘votes’ to gain election success, they would be at a disadvantage. As long as Democrats only need to gather ‘ballots’, they have a path to winning elections. The processes of electioneering are all modified accordingly.
Campaigning, advertising, promoting, debating, hand-shaking, crowd attendance and venues for rallies, along with physically meeting people and convincing them of your worth, are only important if you are trying to win votes. Fortunately for Democrats, modern electioneering via ballot collection does not require these arcane efforts. So, in the larger picture of what you now see in elections, Democrats have stopped wasting time doing them.
Republicans are running around trying to convince people and win votes. Meanwhile, who needs voters? Democrats have skipped all of that old fashioned stuff and modified all of their electioneering systems to quietly and efficiently collect ballots. Yesterday you saw the outcome.
Haven’t you noticed?
It really is that simple.

If any of us filled in bundled ballots we’d be sentenced to 25yrs
Whereas they get paid generally $250 per ballot in the bundle
Nobody is doing hard time to save this rotten house
no one will ever do hard time or be held accountable for any of it until the people finally drag them into the streets.
And I dont mean figuratively with a mean tweet.
This article points to Langley…which is CIA….which is China…. being happy with the votes last night.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/11/publius-2-0-feels-like-watching-first-wholly-manufactured-election-history-key-competitive-races-programmed-langley/
And the obvious … the RNC is WORTHLESS.
In New Orleans it was discovered an empty house had over 555 “voters” registered to that address.
There are likely hundreds of these houses in every city in the country.
Exactly….they should be clearing this stuff up during off election times and right before elections.
McConnell and McCarthy have mixed feelings; yes this advances their RDS as “anyone but Trump”,…
Insurrection j6 was a career killer, thats for sure.
M&M and Pelosi and Chuck had to do some “sacrifice plays” there.
RDS WILL have some MAGA competition, to challenge his until now sole position as “MAGA Governor”.
And McConnell will have a festering thorn in his side, of having MAGA Senator stinking up his Senate.
Lost Boerbert, but we MAGA are sending many MAGA Reinforcements into the House, to increase the pressure on McCarthy.
Not a rousing victory for McConnell, more like he is fighting a holding action and losing ground.
Looks like Kari Lake is still in this and probably will win.
That makes me feel a little better.
Blake Masters still sees hope. So I guess we will see there.
I knew the leftwing nuts were going to pull something this time around and boy did I get a bunch of ridicule!
Felt like Lot warning Soddom about Gods impending judgement! No one listened!
I’m not upset so much that the left cheated again, that’s to be expected.
I’m more upset that no one will do anything about it.
Now the United States has 2 brain deads in higher office, plus a load of others who don’t deserve it who are bent on screwing my life up!
I try to stay focused and remember that I’m a citizen of Heaven and my sojourn here is nothing compared to what God has in store for me later.
These people will get their due reward.
I believe that in my heart, that God will judge the living and the dead, including these election-stealing MIC traitors.
Our elites (like Epstein and Gates and Klaus Schwab) worship Lucifer, the deity who never created anything, who only mimics and distorts. Who destroys and lies.
And I believe God will, in the end, give them what they deserve.
its amazing that every 2 years we seem to breathe our own exhaust and buy into this notion that THIS TIME it will be fine – all we have to do is hit that vote button harder and our “enthusiasm” will overwhelm the fraud gap. which is almost certainly up to about 10% now that nothing has been done about it.
I can understand your frustration, however, I think many here are missing important points. There WAS an incredible amount of GOP support that showed up this election! Just look at how slim some of the margins were in the deep blue states between Dem candidates vs. Rep candidates. One also needs to consider that due to this horrible economy, two years of tyranical COVID mandate b.s., many conservatives left those swing states for redder pastures, thus taking their votes with them. Thus he Republican challengers lost those important votes that MIGHT have actually beaten the incumbent.
We keep learning as we go further into this fight. Remember: battles can be won or lost but its the war we want to win. Conservatives did very good overall last night just look at California, New Hampshire, Maine, West Virginia and the massive shifts in school boards across the nation. Those blue states that kept their incumbants are going to have to take ownership of the horrible economic crisis that’s looming just around the corner. And when “bad” goes to “horrific” in less than six months, well…
We CAN change things for the better. There’s lots of proof out there now. But we can’t give up even when we are exhausted to the point of collapsing. Hang in there.
Kari and company will do very well.
The Az State Legislature will be comfortably MAGA Dominant, starting next session, which means they will stand with her, and give her the legislative agenda she needs.
VERY important.
As is SOS, and AG, which is why the SLATE of MAGA Candidates is so vital.
One RINO or Dem (Uniparty) in any of these key offices, can throw roadblocks and impediments to the MAGA agenda.
Karizona, and you ain’t seen NOTHING, yet.
The road to the WH, Trump or otherwise runs through PA and MI. That is why what you lay out here is so devastating.
You could get rid of the Ballot mentality in those States with a Conservative Governor and SOS.
That’s why the loss of these two last night hit me so hard, especially being here in MI.
We missed that exit ramp yesterday, G-d help us….
Yes-there is no way an R will win MI or PA in a general election under these regimes -unless the vote fabricators/harvesters are told to stand down. CA is a one party State and that is the model they are emulating.
thus there candidate will be Newsom
The mule problem and other issues with respect to (fake) ballots can be contained, although not eliminated ,with some difficult-but-not-impossible-to-enact reforms.
The elephant in the room is Dominion. If you don’t work to remove those machines, nothing else will matter in the swing states. And the republic will evaporate.
We need to work in our local counties over the next 2 years to ban these machines entirely, forever
We had two years to do something and we didnt. Nothing will change, get used to it.
We are the patron saint of lost causes
Is it not heroic to refuse to give up even in the face of overwhelming odds?
We? Who is this we you speak of? I have been doing something, a lot has changed, and I refuse to get used to my children being told by the authorities what they may and may not discuss.
Hopefully people needed to be 100% certain it happened in 20 and seeing it again, with the country headed down the tubes, they will act accordingly and ban mail-in/drop-off ballots and electronic voting.
Ah, but we have at least TWO States, where a whole slate of MAGA Candidates won, running on a campaign promise to:
Paper ballots
One day voting
No machines
Transparently clean voter rolls
Voter I.D.
Citisenship verification.
Limited mail out absentee ballots
and, these are detirmined, MAGA “promises made, promises kept” candidates, not hack careerists liars.
And, aggressively prosecuting election fraud.
And that changes EVERYTHING
Bingo.
I really think the talking about Dominion is the wrong way. It is the mules mass mail ballots.
I think we lost the momentum in 2020 talking about machines and the problem is still out there.
We have to find a way to stop it on the ground.
The Mass ballots are the issue. Machines are problematic but the hustling of ballots are the culprit. An address tht has 500 ballots mailed in and late night drop in with thousands of ballots. Where are the ballots coming from?
standing in line for hours realizing tht the ballots are the issue not the voter. Yes voters got out and tried and Liz Chaney won, her evil rhetoric paid off to crush MEGA. Sick to my stomach Penn, NY, how could this happen and if our Kari Lake wins, she will be all alone and eventually the GOP club will captivate her. The millions of Trumpers are devastated!
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Asking White people to choose between democrats and republicans is asking them to chose between an enemy and a traitor.
These are not viable options
Asking PEOPLE to choose between democrats and RINOS, is asking them to choose between conmunists.
Not a viable option.
fixed it
For me the tag RINO and traitor is a difference without distinction.
Well, let’s be honest here. When the target groups are designated, as have white people and the new category “Chistian Nationalists”, it would be stupid, especially in a blue state, not to realize the danger.
When the power mongers tell you that only blacks can represent blacks, whites ARE THE TARGET.
There was a whistle blower in FL recently who described the ballot collection fraud. A “collector” (for the purpose of this comment) would show up at a location where there could be hundreds of registered voters, carrying blank ballots (nursing homes are a prime example). They would then go through the facility “assisting” the residents with filling out the ballots. Completed ballots would then be deposited at drop boxes. For this, the collector received $10 / ballot. The point is that the commiecrats have spent at least the last 10 years (probably more) setting up this organization. I have no doubt it is nationwide. This is why the mail in and early voting (early = ballots dropped at polling locations) always favors democrats.
The process won’t be outlawed because RINO governors have no spine and cave to the “it’s voter suppression!” cries from the enemedia propagandists.
Notice that in FL the red wave existed. Why? DeSantis cleared the voter rolls and setup a police force for voter integrity to catch the cheaters. At least in FL there was the possibility that you might get caught and be prosecuted. What did DeSantis win by? 18% margin. Gee. I wonder why – not.
We must fight this – legally – or get used to being disenfranchised.
also tens of thousand of covid lockdown refugees moved from blue states to Florida and pushed his number up!
Actually, most WORK in the nursing home, and its significant “second income”.
Where do the blank ballots come from? Who are processing them printing them and how are they available so people can distribute them?
Runbeck.
All this Trump v. DeSantis talk is juicy, but under the hood, there’s a far more pressing issue: Democrats fortified their COVID mass mail-in-voting apparatus. It’s a vote-harvesting juggernaut that will continue to produce competitive results no matter the GOP nominee.
Many factors went into last night. VBM falls short of explaining it all, but it’s crucial to understand VBM has changed the game in many ways. 2020 wasn’t a one-off. There is now a well-established Democrat machine that will harvest hordes of votes during “Election Month.”
https://t.me/electionwizard/5173
We have to have faith that tonight, most decent American families will sit around and go, WTF? As things worsen for the country (and they will) they will have more motivation to be part of a major movement for change.
“,..no matter the GOP nominee,..”
NOT true, doesn’t explain Az.
Opponent was the SoS, running elections.
R County Recorder and R County board of Supervisor member openly worked against her.
Media 100 percent against her.
Outspent 10:1 in the primary, 5:1 in the general.
And she is not only winning, but pulling a full MAGA slate with her.
And focusing on ballots, while she and her slate focused on voters, did not pay off for her opposition.
Personality or policy, KL won, and overcame the steal.
Dutchman, all that means is KL out performed the projections by a margin that vote manufacturing couldn’t overcome in the short time they had to have ballots produced. Donald Trump did the same thing in 2016. Fraud in elections is the controlling function. Saving your vote for day of keeps your powder dry!
Is there anyone who could pay for canvassing a entire congressional district? It’s the only way to prove the manufactured vote.
Here in Colorado 51% voted for magic mushrooms and 63% against wine in grocery stores.
Where is the unified thought there?
That’s why, short of having your legs amputated (and even that might not be an excuse) it’s important to get off your butt and get to your polling place.
Is that way 100%? Nope. Does it reduce the chance stuff can go wrong? Yep
Your analysis of ballots vs votes is outstanding and provides much-needed clarity.
The difference in outcome is the ability to collect ballots (i.e. ballot harvesting) versus idly hoping that your supporters turn up at the polls to vote.
Republicans are at a disadvantage for ballot collection. It is much easier for Ds to collect ballots in densely populated urban areas than it is for Rs to do the same in suburbs and rural areas of states.
geography and population density do not matter as much as you seem to think they do….it would if these were VALID ballots…….they are NOT…that is the point of the article
Exactly
Yep, lots of phantom voters. NM had 17 million people on its voter rools 2 weeks ago, when the state population is under 2 million…And then all the excess votes just disappeared. Overnight.
And most of the attitude that’s been cultivated in those (usually) poorly educated urban populations is that their vote is better sold than exercised with thought.
As long as that gubmint check keeps coming…
“Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything.” ― Joseph Stalin.
Republican Party Staves Off Red Wave
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Nov 9, 2022 · BabylonBee.com
The Bee is always so right on, and bitingly acerbic
Yup. States where MAGA slates lost big, Michigan and Pennsylvania, were States where the MAGA movement was unable to wrest control away from RINO Commies.
States where MAGA prevailed for control of the State R party, MAGA slates did well.
NYS, AZ and Nevada.
It WASN’T the CANDIDATES, ir their POLICIES, it was the State and National Republican Party, undermining them.
MAGA wins, when it has State party, even overcoming McConnells funding their opponent, or underfunding/supporting them.
STATE R party control is VITAL to forwarding the MAGA agenda, got to have it!
Appreciate this article and it appears to be spot on. The Dems are a ballot harvesting machine. If states don’t get a handle on this it’s going be same ol and possibly worst as we go on. 50% of voters don’t vote leaves a lot out there to be counted fraudulently or harvested by Dems. It’s probably not even illegal what they are doing in some states as they loosened voter laws through COVID..
And please note that …
Both those things need to be outlawed by the SCOTUS.
States had their chance after the 2020 election. Nothing changed, nor will it.
Proof Mail-In Ballots Facilitates Voter Fraud
October 24th, 2022
https://newswithviews.com/proof-mail-in-ballots-facilitates-voter-fraud/
Please Lord Jesus Christ, help us find the answer to this chicanery.
The answer is to play the same game. Why haven’t the republicans mailed thousands of bogus ballots? Learn and practice the same game.
It is not a game.
It’s a game. Would you call it an election?
CHEATERS!!!!! Until people are majorly held accountable for the FRAUD, nothing will change and our elections are worthless.
only we can hold them accountable
Maybe stop all the discussion about why the Republicans didn’t do anything, why Dems are cheating, etc., etc. This is a UNIPARTY. With very few exceptions, they all support essentially the same thing, hence you won’t hear McConnell, McCarthy or virtually any other Republican make any waves. We are seeing the Uniparty in action.
McConnell is up for reelection as GOP leader in the Senate –coming up fast — next Wed.
He doesn’t have anything to do with state election laws.
MS. LINDSEY
Illegal Ballots Counted: What About Those House and Senate Seats?
https://newswithviews.com/illegal-ballots-counted-what-about-those-house-and-senate-seats/
Sundance help me to understand something. I get the ballots vs votes assertion. And again the same districts in AZ GA NV PA and MI have produced delays or inconceivable wins for the democrat. But who is saying “we need X number of ballots to overturn the republucan”? There has to be a number to reach and who us calling it and what is happening to ballots that don’t choose the democrat? Are they destroyed? Helo me out here.
They use the “adjudication” process to change R votes to D as needed. Why do you think Sharpies were only used on Election Day?
You do understand but don’t realize it: You just hit on exactly why we can’t ever see the ballots. Most secure elections evah, but don’t dare ask to see, hand count and audit the ballots 😉
November 2020 “Mail-In” Theft of the United States
https://newswithviews.com/november-2020-mail-in-theft-of-the-united-states/
Its important for all of us to remember, I hope, that we are not losing. Try not to get discouraged. The Cabal is scared to death. Rest assured that the vast majority of the people around the world do not want this. Its really about what all of us are willing to do and sacrifice individually to end this nightmare.
MAGA has never been stronger. We crushed it in 2020 and 2022.
Our votes and real outcomes are being suppressed by a global evil.
The cabal has simply corrupted the system of our democratic process currently in place, initially through a manufactured and fake pandemic. You see how there is absolutely no tolerance for election denial whatsoever. See how scared they get when evidence is presented exposing it. Its soooo obvious.
It was the only way the Cabal could maintain power.
Thanks for hanging in there with me and others last night, sharing updates as info rolled in.
And we need reminders like this post that we are a large, strong movement.
When KL and the rest of MAGA take over in AZ and start exposing some of the fraud there the Dimm/commie/GOPe have been using, it will have a NATIONAL impact…..especially when some of the main perps are jailed for their involvement
There’s nothing new under the sun.
https://www.idahostatejournal.com/opinion/columns/lbj-and-ballot-box-13-the-scandal-and-the-1941-texas-democratic-senate-primary/article_2692a8a3-95cd-57bb-a1fc-d65a8a8b30ce.html
Minnesota is clearly part of this group, but is Wisconsin?
This PINKO Tsunami has me so frustrated and dismayed … that I have to turn to my own personal refuge … music. And I need a little electric boogie to ‘motivate’ me and keep me looking forward. What else can we do?
stay motivated
The below guy nails it .
Overturning Election Fraud is the ONLY Agenda Now
https://newswithviews.com/overturning-election-fraud-is-the-only-agenda-now/
Well stated and also Accurate.
There is NO agency in the government that will help us fix this. Not the Executive, Congress or the Courts. The media (social or mainstream) isn’t going to help either. Nor is the military. They are now WOKE. Overturning election fraud is not going to happen without US making use of the 2nd Amendment to take our country back. But I don’t think we have the will to do it. Even on a thread like this, no one has yet mentioned the 2nd Amendment and what is purpose was according to the Founders. We don’t seem to have the will that the Founders did. We’re too comfortable to rock the boat. Too afraid to lose what we have. And as a result, we will probably lose it all. This OBVIOUS cheating that went on this election signals the end of America. Go out and buy a lottery ticket. That will soon be the only opportunity there will be for advancement in the country … unless, of course, you become a member of the The Party. Soon to be the ONLY Party. Just saying …
Been saying this for years. We need to revert back to Constitutional Law and adjudicate the fraud of 2020, earlier, and 2022.
This is a good way to summarize what was meant by the phrase “it doesn’t matter who votes; what matters is who counts the votes.”
In 2020, the Left was able to eliminate the need to appeal to the electorate. Everything the Left has done since then simply reflects that reality.
Election fraud should be a capital crime, punishable by death. It’s that important, as without legitimate elections we don’t have a country in any sense other than name only. It’s just a different form of sedition.
Forgive me for posting blind, and maybe I’m misunderstanding the gist here, but this statement by Sundance: “You can vote at any scale you want, but when ballots are more important than votes – the election will always favor the latter.” Did he mean to say “former”?
Must have.
By latter, he’s referring to the second part of his sentence….the entire phrase over the first phrase before the comma.
So it’s not just about voting, defeating ballot fraud is also important.
Essential… I remember the first time I voted absentee, I had to provide a verifiable reason (I had to be out of town to testify at a trial) to get a ballot, and mail it in. Otherwise, everyone voted on Election Day.
And very few absentee ballots were allowed. A stable system.
GOP is complicit. The GOPe like it just the way it is. I often think they actually are running all of it from behind the scenes. Let the D’s do as they please and take the attention and anger, while they manipulate and get rich. There are a few honest ones, just not enough.
Biden said exactly what they were going to do; count ballots for days. It was obvious they were going to cheat. If we want to save the Republic we must outdo their cheating. A silent observer here.
I’m surprised that you didn’t mention the word “cheat” in your OP, Sundance. “Ballot collection” is such an innocuous term. And it seems to me what you really said is that unless Republicans cheat, there’s no hope for this country. Democrats are going win because we have little hope of convincing the populace at large to be concerned about votes (your other term), much less what democRATS have done to this country the past decade.
But unlike democRATS, Republicans can’t get away with cheating. They’ll end up in jail, even if they didn’t do it. Unlike the RATS, they don’t own the DOJ, FBI, FEC, the courts, the police or any of the bodies that SHOULD prevent or discourage election fraud. They don’t own the media, either … the entity that used to be an independent watchdog over government malfeasance. They also can’t mobilize the military to ensure we have free and honest election. There is no-one left BUT US to fix this. But what it will take to do that just doesn’t seem like something our side wants to even discuss or face. So … 1984 here we come!
SD would NEVER suggest that patriots cheat…….he wants to CLEAN up the dirt and mud the Dimm/commie/GOPe are using to keep their hold on power
I think “ballot collection” is nothing but a way cheat and that is EXACTLY how the democRATS are using it. And if you carefully read what Sundance said, he was saying Republicans need to do it too … or they’ll lose. He said “Republicans are running around trying to convince people and win votes. Meanwhile, who needs voters? Democrats have skipped all of that old fashioned stuff, and they have modified all of their electioneering systems to quietly and efficiently collecting ballots. Haven’t you noticed? It really is that simple.”
He didn’t once say that ballot collection was being used by democRATS to cheat. And that’s the reality. There is no way in the world that Biden got 81 million legitimate ballots in 2020. No way in the world that democRATS had as good a day as is claimed in this election. Not with 70+% of the populace saying the Biden Administration is on the wrong track. Not with the country in a recession. Etc. Etc.
Cabal uses lawfare to silence our voice. They go after the platform that gives us a voice. This is our platform.
The subject of ELECTION FRAUD draws the eye of Sauron even faster then the subject of the fake COVID PANDEMIC which made the fraud possible.
Hey Murkowski is gone. there’s that.
What you said isn’t correct.
Latest numbers:
Tshibaka (R) 44.4%
Murkowski (R) 42.7%
Chesbro (D) 9.5%
Kelley (R) 0.5%
Ranked choice will cause Kelley and Chesbro to be knocked out. Whether Tshibaka or Murkowski wins all depends on how the Chesbro voters ranked the candidates. We won’t know til Nov 29, believe it or not.
Nov 29, 2022?
was there a 50% vote getter?…..if not there is a “run-off” with ranked choice taking center stage
Agreed.
I actually cringed when I saw all the “Red Wave” hype before the election. Why? It was over the top and not realistic. Having an unrealistic expectation will always lead to disappointment. I think we did rather well considering the huge amount of fraud that we had to overcome. We actually got the House and dumped Nancy. Right there makes me giddy! Just might snag the Senate by a hair. We put in some good governors, too. Sarah Huckabee Sanders is AR new governor. Considering all the crap she put up with as press secretary, she earned it! In the future I think we can rally the troops without over speculating the outcome. Fight the good fight, finish the race and rejoice in what every wins you get.
It was ONLY UNREALISTIC due to mass fraud . If this election was legitimate and fraud was minimal NO DEMOCRAT would of had a chance they would have been wiped out.
Over 70% of Americans are outraged at the direction of this country .
You’re wrong. We cannot write off every loss to fraud. The polls in advance of the election showed very tight races, many showing Dems with slight leads. The end results are in line with the polls.
Don’t ignore Roe v. Wade. You want to win an election? Mention it over and over and over…
See Fetterman’s “debate” with Dr. Oz.
That’s my point it was unrealistic because the fraud is so massive. Considering the MT Everest of voter fraud we faced we did rather well. You’re right that if the elections were clean we would have done far, far better. But that’s the point, it wasn’t clean. “If only” doesn’t solve the problem. Face the reality of the problem, then come out swinging.
Yes, and be very suspicious of the election fraud deniers who try to convince you otherwise. They reside here on this platform as well.
Having an unrealistic expectation will always lead to disappointment.
YES! I said in an earlier post that all of the pundits who overhyped the red wave should be cancelled. All of the polling and factual info pointed to a lot of tight races, and a better chance of winning the House majority than the Senate majority. Why anyone thought we were going to do so much better than that is almost certainly due to the non-stop hope porn from the pundits who are more interested in earning money than helping the cause. It doesn’t help to create inflated expectations.
The red wave is a vestige of a bygone era.
We will have not just MAGA Govs, but MAGA Govs with a supportive MAGA Slate, vital for forwarding and by doing so demonstrating by example the State MAGA Agenda;
Election integrity
Border security
Parental rights
Law Enforcement
etc.
We haven’t really HAD a true A1 MAGA Governor yet, let alone one with a supportive slate.
We WILL have our first MAGA Senator.
While we lost Boerbert, it is a MAGA rienforcement group, that will establish a House majority.
Put another way, R’s did not gain majority because voters like or agree with McCarthy or Liz. It was MAGA,that took back the House for R’s, in spite of RINO Leadership.
Yes, I was cringing too. Nothing has changed since the 2020 election. All the avenues for cheating are still in place. Why would you expect a different outcome? Did we think that Democrats who have been cheating in every election since JFK weren’t going to cheat anymore?! This is what Marxist do.
No longer donate to RNC and have sent them several emails to that fact. I believe the dem’s and of course big corporations are helping to finance the uniparty RINO’s. They no longer need our support.
Donate to CANDIDATES, directly.
And, look to less star candidates, MAGA Candidates for State Assembly, State positions that might not get the attention of Gov. and desperately need the $.
Ill be donating to True The Vote first this time.
And don’t donate to candidates through the odious and very corrupt Winred! Learn about its history. Atrocious.
Instead, use http://www.Right.us. Many, many MAGA candidates are registered there to receive donations, and there will be more.
At least ActBlue is ostensibly non-profit. But the donation commissions at Winred go directly into the pockets of wealthy RINOs.
This is going to be really epic.
Or just simply…
Cheating-cheaters!
Bagpipes and John Roberts sealed the deal for counting ballots instead of votes, via their inaction in 2020.
JB. Williams
Ever notice how the judges make sure we don’t ever get to see, count and audit the ballots to find out what the actual numbers of votes cast really is?
All I can say, is Pennsylvania, you deserve this result.
Michigan, Nurse Ratchet is all yours to enjoy.
What about a fetus….do they deserve this? Allowing birth abortions or dam near close to it?
I wonder if our government used THE HAMMER last night. I would bet the house they did.
Did Joe Biden Use THE HAMMER to Steal the Election?
https://newswithviews.com/did-joe-biden-use-the-hammer-to-steal-the-election/
And for dramatic effect, Ron De”Sanctimonious” carries Miami-Dade, why it must be a sign, right? Why does this not surprise anyone? Lindsay Graham-nesty congratulating the democrats is not a moment of magnanimity but a moment to rub MAGA’s face in the red tsunami that never materialized. The narrative moving forward is that MAGA candidates are unelectable and that RD is the future of the GOP not PDJT
Why do dead people always vote democrat?
I’m glad you are pointing this out Sundance…But its too late to do anything about this…Thats the problem with OUR side, when we catch on it’s too late to do something and when we do something, they are already onto something else that will provide better results. We need some forward thinking people in other words, we need our own scam too…
But I’m afraid its too late…
Democrats are always ahead of Republicans in these types of strategies.
Republicans usually catch up years later ..and find ways to eventually exceed the Dems in those same strategies.
They’ll just have to do it here also.
However, in any state they can they should secure election integrity and tighten the voting processes. Then center energy on the blue state operations to play their game to win.
The problem is they have something else up their selves when you do…
I’m probably overreacting, but President Trump makes it sound like this was some sort of sporting event.
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While in certain ways yesterday’s election was somewhat disappointing, from my personal standpoint it was a very big victory – 219 WINS and 16 Losses in the General – Who has ever done better than that?
well those numbers are indeed impressive
super impressive
Then why are a lot of people here acting like it’s the end of the world?
Because Republicans as of now have lost most of the Congressional seats of which they had a golden opportunity to flip, including House, Senate, and Governorships. They lost key governorships in several states where dissatisfaction with the incumbent Democrat governor was very high, per months of polls.
The 219 wins to which PDJT is referring are a current estimation of the House seats, the majority of which were incumbents who were in relatively “safe” districts. The election provided the GOP a net gain of +7, which should be a majority, but the final tallies are not yet in.
All of the wins are pretty much because of what HE did. lol
Nobody guaranteed that “Swamp the vote, to beat the cheat” would be successful in its stated goal, EVERY time.
It worked in 2016, not in 2020.
It didn’t work in Pennsylvania or Michigan, and I would argue those two States Republican parties are still RINO dominant, with the RINOS undermining the MAGA movement, within the State Party.
It WORKED in NYS, despite Zeldins loss. If MAGA that flocked to Florida had stayed in “reliable blue” NYS, Zeldin would have surely run, and look down ballot where MAGA picked up enough House seats, to flip the U.S. House, and where State Legislature saw major R gains.
“Reliably blue”, my *ss!
And as we will see, it worked in Az and Nev, to carry a whole MAGA Slate, and give us a MAGA Senator, and R majority in the Senate.
MAGA is strong in my area which with redistricting was about 50/50 dem/repub. NY 22 went MAGA this election. Brandon Williams goes to DC. Bet he’ll have fun w McCarthy who bankrolled his opponent in the primaries to such a level the race drew national attention. MAGA won just fine in the general election.
Late afternoon on election day listening to a a local commute-time radio show and the host was inviting people to call in to say who they voted for and why. Registered democrats called in one after the other to say for that for the first time they voted the Republican ticket across the board.
And Zeldin came within striking distance, it was hardly a wipe-out. — He says to win in New York State you need 35% of the NYC vote –he came very close to that but was maybe 33.8%.
As children, we pushed our luck to the outer limits, despite warnings from Mom. Dad would usually sit quietly and let it all play itself out.
But every now and then we’d hear Dad’s chair creak, his belt sliding out of his pants, and the stomping of his feet coming down the hallway. Fast. And terrifying.
It’s time for Dad.
And who’s the child, Fetterman?!
I am sure someone else has said this but the DeSantis victory in Florida is the Dems trojan horse in the 2024 Republican race against PDJT
I am in Colorado and I have watched elections be stolen by mail in ballots for four presidential elections.
“Vote better! Watch better! Your vote still matters!”Seemed to be the mantra for the controlled opposition. There is not a chance in this world that Lauren Boebert lost rural Colorado to a liberal who’s vote can be bought.
Until vote stealing, manufacturing, and destruction is demonstrated with a canvas of an entire election this process will just get worse.
I’ve done customer service contact for 20 years, It would take about $2 million to conclusively prove that bundles of votes were submitted in the name of people who didn’t vote. There is no Republican organization that is willing to spend the money. I tried to find one after the last election and failed
And yet, the RNC took in $20M in Stop the Steal money in 2020, and kept it all. While working class people dug in their pockets to send to the Election Integrity groups who cared.
May they roast in hell. Two million dollars is a pittance.