Before getting to the latest revelation/evidence which affirms CTH research for multiple years, let me just remind everyone of the commonsense aspect. If the Dept of Homeland Security (DHS) was actually doing what I have long said it appeared they were doing, then…
…The databases of the identified social media platforms appear to be integrated with the U.S. intelligence system. This relationship makes the U.S government a stakeholder in the financial sustainability of the enterprise(s). Thus, a collaborative effort to financially subsidize the underlying data processing fits the mutual benefit scenario. ~ Sundance
DHS gets domestic surveillance tools under the guise of ‘national security’. Meanwhile, massive social media companies get financial offsets for the extreme data processing costs associated with millions of simultaneous users. That’s the mutual benefit behind “Jack’s Magic Coffee Shop.” Previously people called it a ‘conspiracy theory‘, I didn’t care, still don’t, it just makes the most sense; Occam’s Razor applies.
Today, all that was almost certain is now brought forth with buckets of evidence showing how social media enterprises have direct portals to DHS to transmit information and receive instructions. It’s a public-private partnership, just like it always appeared. To quote succinctly, we been knew.
Now before getting all giddy and excited about the documents leaked to The Intercept, proving what CTH has outlined for years, allow me to temper the thirst for immediate I toldyaso’s, Slow your roll…
Remind yourself when everyone was giddy about getting to see for the first time in history a released ‘top secret’ Title-1 FISA application (Carter Page) and how everyone rushed to review and discuss it without asking the first question(s) first. We know these are bad actors, so why was it released and who released it?
The same applies here. We know the change of ownership within Twitter might pose a threat to discovery of government conduct that has taken place inside the enterprise under prior management. So why is the DHS connection to Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, YouTube etc. and social media being revealed now? What are their motives, and who is leaking it? We do not yet know.
As to what is being revealed in the leak, it’s a remarkable affirmation of how the Fourth Branch of Government operates. Specifically, what CTH has outlined for years about the use of the Dept of Homeland Security, as a political surveillance weapon under the justification of national security.
[The Intercept] – […] Behind closed doors, and through pressure on private platforms, the U.S. government has used its power to try to shape online discourse. According to meeting minutes and other records appended to a lawsuit filed by Missouri Attorney General Eric Schmitt, a Republican who is also running for Senate, discussions have ranged from the scale and scope of government intervention in online discourse to the mechanics of streamlining takedown requests for false or intentionally misleading information.
“Platforms have got to get comfortable with gov’t. It’s really interesting how hesitant they remain,” Microsoft executive Matt Masterson, a former DHS official, texted Jen Easterly, a DHS director, in February.
In a March meeting, Laura Dehmlow, an FBI official, warned that the threat of subversive information on social media could undermine support for the U.S. government. Dehmlow, according to notes of the discussion attended by senior executives from Twitter and JPMorgan Chase, stressed that “we need a media infrastructure that is held accountable.”
“We do not coordinate with other entities when making content moderation decisions, and we independently evaluate content in line with the Twitter Rules,” a spokesperson for Twitter wrote in a statement to The Intercept.
There is also a formalized process for government officials to directly flag content on Facebook or Instagram and request that it be throttled or suppressed through a special Facebook portal that requires a government or law enforcement email to use. At the time of writing, the “content request system” at facebook.com/xtakedowns/login is still live. DHS and Meta, the parent company of Facebook, did not respond to a request for comment. The FBI declined to comment.
[…] The extent to which the DHS initiatives affect Americans’ daily social feeds is unclear. During the 2020 election, the government flagged numerous posts as suspicious, many of which were then taken down, documents cited in the Missouri attorney general’s lawsuit disclosed. And a 2021 report by the Election Integrity Partnership at Stanford University found that of nearly 4,800 flagged items, technology platforms took action on 35 percent — either removing, labeling, or soft-blocking speech, meaning the users were only able to view content after bypassing a warning screen. The research was done “in consultation with CISA,” the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency.
Prior to the 2020 election, tech companies including Twitter, Facebook, Reddit, Discord, Wikipedia, Microsoft, LinkedIn, and Verizon Media met on a monthly basis with the FBI, CISA, and other government representatives. According to NBC News, the meetings were part of an initiative, still ongoing, between the private sector and government to discuss how firms would handle misinformation during the election. (keep reading)
Essentially, the nub of the issue related to the U.S. government telling social media what to remove from the public discussion and what types of information they want monitored. The social media companies and DHS have a portal between them [EXAMPLE HERE] where these discussions take place.
While there are no specific details as to the human targets of the censoring information, you would have to be obtuse in the extreme not to accept that Donald Trump’s removal from Twitter was one of the larger targeting operations as an outcome of alignment between the activist officials on Twitter and the political officials within the U.S. government [ie. the Fourth Branch].
[…] Intelligence agencies backed new startups designed to monitor the vast flow of information across social networks to better understand emerging narratives and risks.
There it is.
Does anyone need to be beaten with a hammer to accept that “intelligence agencies” funded new subsidiary private sector monitoring networks?
“Backed new startups“? If the U.S. government is going to pay new private sector startup companies to help the intelligence community with social media surveillance, why wouldn’t the same agencies pay to retain the originating system and data processing that establishes the baseline of the data being reviewed? Please apply common sense.
[…] “The Department has not been fully reauthorized since its inception over fifteen years ago,” the Senate Homeland Security Committee warned in 2018. “As the threat landscape continues to evolve, the Department adjusted its organization and activities to address emerging threats and protect the U.S. homeland. This evolution of the Department’s duties and organization, including the structure and operations of the DHS Headquarters, has never been codified in statute.”
The subsequent military defeat of ISIS forces in Syria and Iraq, along with the withdrawal from Afghanistan, left the homeland security apparatus without a target. Meanwhile, a new threat entered the discourse. The allegation that Russian agents had seeded disinformation on Facebook that tipped the 2016 election toward Donald Trump resulted in the FBI forming the Foreign Influence Task Force, a team devoted to preventing foreign meddling in American elections.
According to DHS meeting minutes from March, the FBI’s Foreign Influence Task Force this year includes 80 individuals focused on curbing “subversive data utilized to drive a wedge between the populace and the government.”
“The Department will spearhead initiatives to raise awareness of disinformation campaigns targeting communities in the United States, providing citizens the tools necessary to identify and halt the spread of information operations intended to promote radicalization to violent extremism or mobilization to violence,” DHS Acting Secretary Kevin McAleenan said in a September 2019 strategic framework. (read more)
I cannot emphasize the importance of the connections enough.
Surveillance of domestic communication, to include surveillance of all social media platforms, is now the primary mission of DHS.
The information is gathered by social media, funneled by direct portals into the DHS network then distributed to DOJ-NSD and FBI officials as well as the Office of the Director of National Intelligence. This communication surveillance network is what DHS, created as an outcome of the Patriot Act, is all about.
The four pillars of the Fourth Branch of Government are: DHS, ODNI, DOJ-NSD and the revised/political FBI. All four pillars were created as an outcome of the Patriot Act. These institutions – as specifically named – represent the domestic surveillance state. The subsidiary institutions like TSA etc, exist under their authority. There is no oversight or counterbalance to this system. The Fourth Branch exists using the shield of “national intelligence” to hide their activity. Domestic surveillance is done by the intelligence apparatus under one big connected system, operated by the ODNI and DHS.
New York Post – Facebook has been spying on the private messages and data of American users and reporting them to the FBI if they express anti-government or anti-authority sentiments — or question the 2020 election — according to sources within the Department of Justice.
Under the FBI collaboration operation, somebody at Facebook red-flagged these supposedly subversive private messages over the past 19 months and transmitted them in redacted form to the domestic terrorism operational unit at FBI headquarters in Washington, DC, without a subpoena.
“It was done outside the legal process and without probable cause,” alleged one of the sources, who spoke on condition of anonymity.
“Facebook provides the FBI with private conversations which are protected by the First Amendment without any subpoena.”
These private messages then have been farmed out as “leads” to FBI field offices around the country, which subsequently requested subpoenas from the partner US Attorney’s Office in their district to officially obtain the private conversations that Facebook already had shown them. (read more)
None of this should be surprising to anyone who has been reading our research about the domestic intelligence apparatus and their connections to the Big Tech platforms. The largest social media networks are fully compromised by this relationship, and that is exactly why the legislative branch has not done anything to impede (ie. break up) the tech monopoly system that was created.
♦ EXAMPLE: Jack’s Magic Coffee Shop (Twitter), essentially a global and public commenting system, could not feasibly exist without the support of the U.S. government providing extreme scale data-processing. Also, specifically because the platform is in a symbiotic relationship with the intelligence apparatus, the IC itself has contracted people working within the platform.
The whole system was admitted in a 2021 Reuters article outlining the networks and their surveillance relationship with DHS.
We have been trying to hammer this issue for a long time, because at the end of this continuum people will eventually be given digital identities. It’s just the natural outcome if you follow the arc of how this is operating. Once a digital ID is established, all of your activity is then connected to it and a digital currency system emerges.
♦ 2021, Public-Private Partnership – The modern Fourth Branch of Government is only possible because of a Public-Private partnership with the intelligence apparatus. You do not have to take my word for it, the partnership is so brazen they have made public admissions.
The biggest names in Big Tech announced in June their partnership with the Five Eyes intelligence network, ultimately controlled by the NSA, to: (1) monitor all activity in their platforms; (2) identify extremist content; (3) look for expressions of Domestic Violent Extremism (DVE); and then, (4) put the content details into a database where the Five Eyes intelligence agencies (U.K., U.S., Australia, Canada, New Zealand) can access it.
Facebook, Twitter, Google and Microsoft are all partnering with the intelligence apparatus. It might be difficult to fathom how openly they admit this, but they do. Look at this sentence in the press release (emphasis mine):
[…] “The Group will use lists from intelligence-sharing group Five Eyes adding URLs and PDFs from more groups, including the Proud Boys, the Three Percenters and neo-Nazis.”
Think about that sentence structure very carefully. They are “adding to” the preexisting list…. admitting the group (aka Big Tech) already have access to the the intelligence-sharing database… and also admitting there is a preexisting list created by the Five Eyes consortium.
Obviously, who and what is defined as “extremist content” will be determined by the Big Tech insiders themselves. This provides a gateway, another plausible deniability aspect, to cover the Intelligence Branch from any oversight.
When the Intelligence Branch within government wants to conduct surveillance and monitor American citizens, they run up against problems due to the Constitution of the United States. They get around those legal limitations by sub-contracting the intelligence gathering, the actual data-mining, and allowing outside parties (contractors) to have access to the central database.
The government cannot conduct electronic searches (4th amendment issue) without a warrant; however, private individuals can search and report back as long as they have access. What is being admitted is exactly that preexisting partnership. The difference is that Big Tech will flag the content from within their platforms, and now a secondary database filled with the extracted information will be provided openly for the Intelligence Branch to exploit.
The volume of metadata captured by the NSA has always been a problem because of the filters needed to make the targeting useful. There is a lot of noise in collecting all data that makes the parts you really want to identify more difficult to capture. This new admission puts a new massive filtration system in the metadata that circumvents any privacy protections for individuals.
Previously, the Intelligence Branch worked around the constitutional and unlawful search issue by using resources that were not in the United States. A domestic U.S. agency, working on behalf of the U.S. government, cannot listen on your calls without a warrant. However, if the U.S. agency sub-contracts to say a Canadian group, or foreign ally, the privacy invasion is no longer legally restricted by U.S. law.
What was announced in June 2021 is an alarming admission of a prior relationship along with open intent to define their domestic political opposition as extremists.
July 26, 2021, (Reuters) – A counterterrorism organization formed by some of the biggest U.S. tech companies including Facebook (FB.O) and Microsoft (MSFT.O) is significantly expanding the types of extremist content shared between firms in a key database, aiming to crack down on material from white supremacists and far-right militias, the group told Reuters.
Until now, the Global Internet Forum to Counter Terrorism’s (GIFCT) database has focused on videos and images from terrorist groups on a United Nations list and so has largely consisted of content from Islamist extremist organizations such as Islamic State, al Qaeda and the Taliban.
Over the next few months, the group will add attacker manifestos – often shared by sympathizers after white supremacist violence – and other publications and links flagged by U.N. initiative Tech Against Terrorism. It will use lists from intelligence-sharing group Five Eyes, adding URLs and PDFs from more groups, including the Proud Boys, the Three Percenters and neo-Nazis.
The firms, which include Twitter (TWTR.N) and Alphabet Inc’s (GOOGL.O) YouTube, share “hashes,” unique numerical representations of original pieces of content that have been removed from their services. Other platforms use these to identify the same content on their own sites in order to review or remove it. (read more)
The influence of the Intelligence Branch now reaches into our lives, our personal lives. In the decades before 9/11/01 the intelligence apparatus intersected with government, influenced government, and undoubtedly controlled many institutions with it. The legislative oversight function was weak and growing weaker, but it still existed and could have been used to keep the IC in check. However, after the events of 9/11/01, the short-sighted legislative reactions opened the door to allow the surveillance state to weaponize.
After the Patriot Act was triggered, not coincidentally only six weeks after 9/11, a slow and dangerous fuse was lit that ends with the intelligence apparatus being granted a massive amount of power. The problem with assembled power is always what happens when a Machiavellian network takes control over that power and begins the process to weaponize the tools for their own malicious benefit. That is exactly what the installation of Barack Obama was all about.
The Obama network took pre-assembled intelligence weapons we should never have allowed to be created and turned those weapons into tools for his radical and fundamental change. The target was the essential fabric of our nation. Ultimately, this corrupt political process gave power to create the Fourth Branch of Government, the Intelligence Branch. From that perspective Obama’s “fundamental change” was successful.
…It’s all Connected Folks, SEE HERE
FBI agent Laura Dehmlow was in communications w Facebook that led to the suppression of the Hunter Biden laptop story in 2020 over the false allegation that it was “disinfo.” This year, she met w/ Twitter/DHS to stress “we need a media infrastructure that is held accountable.” pic.twitter.com/17LqhEyMN0
— Lee Fang (@lhfang) October 31, 2022
The emails and documents show close collaboration b/w DHS & private sector. Twitter's Vijaya Gadde (fired by @elonmusk last week) met monthly with DHS to discuss censorship plans. Microsoft exec texted DHS: "Platforms have got to get comfortable with gov't" pic.twitter.com/Z19yLM3miB
— Lee Fang (@lhfang) October 31, 2022
Earlier this year, DHS launched a widely panned "Disinfo Governance Board" which it later shuttered following criticism. But the same agenda lives on w/ DHS sub-agency "CISA" which argues disinfo is a threat to American "critical infrastructure" #dhsleaks https://t.co/OPl6m5GVGX
— Lee Fang (@lhfang) October 31, 2022
Honest question, no snark.
How is @elonmusk going to have *that* conversation with the U.S. govt, and remain transparent and/or uncouple Twit from them, while all of Musk's brilliant exploits are enmeshed with the same govt?
The govt has power, $$ and leverage in that convo. pic.twitter.com/VNN1RrFSEh
— TheLastRefuge (@TheLastRefuge2) October 31, 2022
Looks like Elon has cut the gordian knot.
As per Twitter terms of service, he now owns the DMs of every two-bit politician, media person, banker, and activist that’s ever used his platform. And there is no bleach bit anywhere to be seen
I hope he only cut (untied) the unsolvable problem and has not cut his own throat.
He has not cut his own throat…yet. He does not want to. That is why he deleted his Pelosi tweet.
Time will tell.
Have a great day!
corporatism
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This gordian knot has the power to cut back though.
[[“Platforms have got to get comfortable with gov’t. It’s really interesting how hesitant they remain,” Microsoft executive Matt Masterson, a former DHS official, texted Jen Easterly, a DHS director, in February.]]
Why are people still using Microsoft ANYTHING? Linux of various flavors can be used for just about everything you already do on a daily basis.
LinuxMint user here. I started with Warty Warthog a long time ago.
I haven’t used windows outside of a VM since W98.
Pinephone 64.
I hear that gets me an automatic spot on the “list”.
Fellow branch hangers linux is now truly easy to use if you have the desire to have some control over what your computer does. Windoze OS owns your computer not you.
If people understood the power of dual boot (or two boot drives), we could kneecap so much bug tech:
Windows for gaming
Linux for everything else
And windows again when you absolutely must do a thing in a short period of time and you can’t figure it out on Linux.
Web browsing, etc…all on Linux.
I’ve been meaning to build a no fixed disc surfing machine that boots off a CDrom.
I think it’s time and past time.
Translated to normal that means the computer’s operating system is loaded every time you start it and when you power down it goes “POOF” and gone and highly unlikely there is any spyware snuck in.
CAn you do Linux on a Mac?
I’m sick of Mozilla. They started blocking some acceptable websites I visit. And then constant reminder to update. If I dismiss these updtes,then my browsing shuts down
search
linux for mac
and look for a dual boot option then you can have both 😉
There are VPNs availale that will get around it.
Ditch Firefox. Use Brave.
Mac is fine. Linux is nothing special visa vis privacy. Watch Rob Braxman videos on youtube to learn about privacy.
Use Brave by same company Mozilla. Streamlined garbage blocking and access to everything and anything you want.
You don’t even need Windows for gaming anymore. Valve has made Linux a viable alternative.
One machine for Linux and one for Windows is easier. If you are like me, you not need high end for both.
I have a privacy phone, Brax2. Dumb republicans need to get rid of their normie phones, especially when they go to an insurrection or a Trump rally.
Put their phones in a Faraday cage at home. Communicate via computer, laptop, regular phones.
My son is all over Linux. Set me up. I have used it at work and home before.
But, I have issues with Window upgrades breaking all my games. Let alone Linux.
I think I need to revisit this though. Really do not want to be on any lists.
Confirmation of what we already knew courtesy of Sundance.
Keep on keeping on, Sundance.
You’ll never hear Mike Lee or the neocons at National Review or WSJ ed page acknowledge that all along it has been the government directing big tech to censor wrongspeech. But at least I haven’t seen any “private companies can do what they want” articles lately.
A good example of this is when National Review kicked all of their anonymous commenters off the National Review Online site and forced commenting on Fakebook – so that individuals could be tracked and targeted more easily.
They belong to The Club.
Mike Lee doesn’t give a damn about you.
Any politician who does gets taken down like the tea party and Donald Trump.
He — and many of others — continue to fight.
The scales are so stacked against the MTG MAGA types.
We just have to keep fighting for and with them.
I just got a fundraising email from Ron DeSantis – to support Mike Lee.
Just sayin’.
Yep, I will be voting for DeSantis, but, because of Sundance, I decided not to donate. I donated small to Trump first election. I bought some MyPillows for my grandchildren.
Very interesting, now I’m waiting for the other shoe to drop.
The problem is ONLY GOVERNMENT pushes misinformation .
While I agree that media has been politicized, what’s the dividing line between opinion pieces and misinformation/disinformation?
Intent?
The only opinions anyone will be allowed are the approved ones.
Why did you leave out Fox? They’re no different.
They are not quite as bad.
I think we need to work with sundance’s mantra:
There is no DIS, MIS, or MAL information.
There is only information… and people free to use their own judgment what to deduce from it.
Truth has no agenda. Truth will be outed eventually.
Just look what a mess Nancy has created by using her husband’s escapades to frame MAGA. It is all backfiring.
She should have stuck with some of the truth.
What I wonder, what about the moderately viewed websites/platforms that have instituted a form of punishment for wrong speak? Is there a list somewhere of all the websites that were ‘communicating’ with DHS ?
Elon fact checked Hillary and now this is leaked long after Sundance revealed it. I hope Elon is on suicide watch.
A conspiracy theorist is just someone with pattern recognition.
…who asks the right questions!!!
So neural networks are conspiracy theorists…among other things?
Someone send this page to the proclaimed future suicidal Scott Adams.
It will either enlighten him or finish him off.
It’s amazing how many conspiracy theories have become conspiracy facts the past few years…
COVID almost certainly did originate in a Chinese labThe Russia Hoax really was a hoaxThe DOJ and FBI led the above hoaxThey really are spying on and censoring you, even going so far as to arrest and prosecute people who oppose themThe Biden’s WERE shaking down Ukraine for billions and the Trump/Ukraine fake impeachment was a cover-up operationHunter Biden’s laptop is really real. No word yet when he’ll be arrested for child porn.Still to come:
The 2020 Presidential Election, several Senate races, and just enough House races to save Pelosi’s job were rigged.
We’re one conveniently broken camera away from finding out that Jeffrey Epstein was murdered.
The vaccine really doesn’t work and the data continues to support this.
The FBI plans school shootings and other domestic terrorism, including using Antifa when necessary
Imagine what we’ll know tomorrow.
I can not knowledgeably speak to consequences, but the disclosures are as a result of lawsuits filed by State AGs. CLEARLY any infringement upon free speech by or at the behest of government is unconstitutional.
The State AG’s are going to have to start targeting INDIVIDUAL Federal Government officials with civil lawsuits for billions of dollars in punitive damages. It’s not enough to “sue the Government”. You have to actively target the individual people who did this. E.g., Anthony Fauci championed a broad campaign to target anybody who doesn’t worship Anthony Fauci. The State AGs should be suing Anthony Fauci PERSONALLY. That gains them additional access to all his “off the official record” conversations in private emails, text messages, etc.
Individual DHS employees, individual FBI agents and DOJ attorneys, they all need to be personally targeted in civil suits.
Agree. This should pierce the government veil of sovereign or governmental immunity. Because it goes beyond the confines of their actual jobs.
The Supreme Court has previously ruled that individual government agents can be personally sued for violating the civil rights of citizens.
I remain shocked that USA Gymnastics (and especially the parents) haven’t filed massive lawsuits against the corrupt FBI Agents and the DOJ officials who refused to prosecute said agents.
Bet their lawyers have not informed them of this possibility.
Wow! You are absolutely correct. It makes it tough to hide behind FOIA requests. It makes government employees accountable.
I remember when the internet was really getting going all those years ago, and people were saying how great it would be. The world at our fingertips…
And I remember specifically feeling uneasy.
Fast forward. Pandora’s box was opened well and truly. There will always be those who will turn potential good (see MRNA development) for their own evil purposes.
And so in the end we have a resurrected Stasi sitting in the fetid bowels of government. For me, there is no other way to describe it.
A lot of people don’t care. They’ve been either desensitized, assume the Government is spying on them and stopped caring, or frightened into silence.
Or think their government wouldn’t spy on them. I believe most of the country is like that.
I think people know it. It’s like my wife watching HGTV or cooking shows like Chopped and choosing to believe it’s not all fake.
Most people do not believe their government would harm them. Covid is putting truth to that lie.
Timcast uploaded a video covering the Intercept article. Tim thinks this is the DHS trying to get in front of the story. While this is a good start, the Intercept is not reliable. I look forward to hearing what Glenn Greenwald has to say on Substack about these disclosures.
In the first iterations, the only difference between a Axe and a battle Axe was the intent with which it was used.
I think the same holds true for governments.
The original intent of the US government was liberty, but it has now being wielded by tyrants.
SD’s twit is exactly why I’ve been skeptical of Elon’s purchase. It’s sounds great until it ain’t.
Now do the people who thought 45 should go back to birdland understand why he shouldn’t? Why be pooped on again.
I never landed in birdland. Never will.
Good call. the irony of a commie from Cuba at DHS is laughable at best.
Never been to birdland either and never wanted to. Sundance nailed it with that Tweet.
Quite a few of us are Five Dozen Lightyears From Birdland.
Yea, I never joined either.
I think Elon’s purchase represents a change in tactics by the government power elites. It has recently dawned on them that they will lose Nov 8 massively. Control will pass to GOP, hopefully mostly MAGA. They have always owned both parties, both sides of an issue. I think Elon represents a lightening of tactics, a return to less divisive postures. He does NOT represent a change in direction, just a pull back. More importantly, Elon will support all government monitoring requested.
The State as a monolith.
Fascism is the best descriptor, but years of deployment as a catcall has left most people unable to grasp the ideological breadth of fascism.
Fascists, as before, are drawn irresistibly to war and tyranny. American democracy will perish unless this siren call of fascism is resisted, but in a cogent way.
Again, most Americans cannot imagine the death of liberal democracy. If only we win the next election, our problems will wither away..
I sadly propose that compromises must be made with the powerful anti-democratic forces arrayed against us. They stole the 2020 election, but perhaps the better angels of their natures would accept a revised form of democracy? Whatever the future holds, denial and wishful thinking is not the path forward.
Compromise will not succeed.
This is the Death Spiral, End Stage American Liberalism circling the Toilet Bowl of History. It is a Murder/Suicide Cult at this point. Osama had a 7th Century Death Cult, but this one is worse by the 21st Century Technology.
Spiritually speaking, satan is suicidal. And his minions follow.
The battle is the Lord’s–and He won’t cut a deal. Think like God.
Victory, Hallelujah!
You cannot compromise with evil. It must be opposed and vanquished wherever it is met….
Would you compromise with a cheating spouse…. allowing them to cheat once a year?
Would you compromise with a murderer…. allow them to kiII once a year?
Would you compromise with a liar…. allow them poison a conversation once a month?
Would you compromise with a rapist… allow them to violate you or a family member occasionally?
Government which God approves and establishes commends good and PUNISHES evil… it does not “compromise” with evil.
Tucker:
I propose compromise from a position of weakness.
I propose compromise as Lee with Grant besieging Richmond.
While conservatives outnumber liberals in the southern and midwestern states, they are outnumbered in the places of most influence.
Big talk liberals will forever defeat conservatism realism. The welfare state is the juggernaut. Send me my s0cial security check and I forgive all.
The world was born anew when FDR birthed the welfare state.
We are weak, but, HE to whom we pledge our allegiance is powerful. Jesus did not compromise with evil.
He challenged human weakness.
You assume people who have in the past supported Liberals, still support the Liberal policies of this administration that have destroyed their jobs, their 401Ks, their budgets, their health, their children, their neighborhoods. Ideology does not stand in the face of physiology, economy and basic animal needs.
The welfare state is not a juggernaut when outpaced by inflation. All Democrats are not on welfare.
All social security recipients are not liberals. Many are grandparents and care very much about the welfare of their adult children and grandchildren.
Not a tweeter and have zero online influence but I was asking that same question about Musk’s relationship with .gov as soon as the prospective Twitter purchase made news and people were positing how Musk would ‘reform’ Twitter, an entity I’ve long seen as an arm of the government, in essence one of their information mercenaries.
Musk is, even to the casual observer of his meteoric rise over the last couple decades, been enmeshed with .gov, and IMO what is now known more colloquially as Branch 4, all along. If we believe they have dirt on all of us just imagine how much dirt they have on Musk.
Who does his proposed 20 bucks a month to blue check balloon hurt or help? Whoever operates at the behest of Branch 4 and their information mercenaries certainly won’t be hurt; they’ve got printing press/taxpayer deep pockets.
How does this dynamic affect the Section 230 battle? Will an irritated Branch 4 go after Musk’s ‘new’ Twitter as a publisher when he starts charging to be ‘official’ and outlining formerly nebulous moderating processes and procedures? IDK.
Is this one more part of the bread and circuses to keep people distracted from the real issues like the economy, election fraud, infringement of our liberties, biological warfare, international chicanery, on and on?
Meh.
“Musk is, even to the casual observer of his meteoric rise over the last couple decades, been enmeshed with .gov.” Maybe shift your paradigm. Maybe it only seems that way to the casual observer. Dig a little little deeper.
Agree. Musk clearly would never be a CTH denizen. But he does not fit the DS profile in depth either.
Some folks enjoy games.
Yes, Musk is enmeshed with .gov. But, Musk is first and foremost a businessman. His first venture was PayPal.
Government is not monolithic. It loves power and control. Musk, like Trump, may play the game to get along, but, actually prefer freedom for all.
I have never found myself distracted at all from the large issues of the economy, the border, the fascism, the biowarfare, and the war machine by whatever latest shiny thing the Regime pushes at us.
And I also think the idea that Americans are always that easily distracted is giving way to a growing awareness of being intentionally distracted by the regime, and fighting back against it.
I guess it goes back to the concept of walking and chewing gum at the same time.
Most can do it easily when the problems grow large enough.
I am on the last few pages of The Trial by F. Kafka. It was written in 1914 but not published until 1925. The book is obviously about the trial of a man without any details. This book is a prime example of art imitating life. The book is so absurd it has to be taken as a comedy yet I truly believe that this book was the inspiration for the deep state’s handling of the Trump presidency.
Wouldn’t be surprised.
By the way there is a well-done, though obscure, film of The Trial – stars Kyle MacLachlan.
Simple answer. Musk is the technical engine behind both electric cars and rocket and satellite technologies. .Gov needs him more than he needs them. NASA and General Motors don’t have anyone on the payroll capable of performing the core functions of those industries. His companies don’t lobby. His companies don’t advertise. His companies don’t do equity hiring. As a result, his space in the ecosystem of these industries is quite unique. He single-handedly outsmarted wall street’s attempts to short him out of existence, and look where he is now. Not his first rodeo
Some truth there … underscored by the fact that Musk could, if circumstances turned sufficiently dire, take his knowhow, his information stash, and himself to the CCP. Not saying he would, just that he could.
Musk still needs .gov to foot the bill. It is a balancing act.
Musk is NOT going to separate Twitter from .gov. .Gov will continue to have access to whatever Twitter feed/email/etc. it wants.
When Musk talks about transparency, he is talking about algorithmic transparency in the same sense that open source is transparent. Think Linux instead of Microsoft operating systems.
He could certainly do that. Then, the rest of us would have a viable framework for ascertaining what exactly is and is not permitted.
Musk is not ideological. He does not have a need to silence all others. This is quite different from the party players currently in power.
But, beware, you will have no more Twitter privacy than before. Plus, ultimately, government, if it really wants to can shut you down. Most of the time it doesn’t because most of the time controlling our behavior is inconsequential to the government meeting its needs.
Hmm….he releases the Mcaffee, Snowden, Assage, Musk, dead man switches?
Wikileaks just dumped it all today
They did?
Got a link?
My bad. I read something dated. I thought it was today
Having opposing and well reasoned *political opinions* declared *misinformation* is what creates *radicalization*. Or as we like to call it, the red pill.
Having the government actors infiltrate domestic groups and incite violence, resulting in the entrapment of private citizens, which is then used as evidence to justify continuing the programs…. Creating your own business, the stone throwers in a broken-window fallacy, it is all infuriating.
It used to be called self-fulfilling prophecies.
It is not only infuriating, it is diabolical in nature.
And still they wonder why more and more people do not trust..or believe…what the media – and our Government -says.
I have found that once a trust has been broken, it is never fully mended.
For me, 4gypsybreeze, trust broken can never ever be made whole. For me no trusting, even a tiny bit. Trust is a 100% deal….not 95%, not 50%, not .0000001%.
Broken equals forfeited… forever.
I’m in your camp on “trust” Betsy…
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People, especially in professional situations, don’t understand trust is the bedrock of everything, Jim. A single crack in that?
Do you trust any doctor now, for example. I don’t. I could go on, but won’t. You know.
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I have not trusted doctors for decades. In my youth, they said all my cramps were in my head, then, they created ibuprofen and I no longer needed codeine #3 every month. There are many, many other stories I could tell of my long journey of finding a happy road between medicine/surgeries that helped and medicine/surgeries that would worsen my lifelong health issues. It is tricky. Every day I am grateful for modern medicine, but, on no day do I take what a doctor prescribes as what is best for me. Each medicine, each procedure I weight the risks and benefits.
At 68, I have never had a cavity. The dentist I had been seeing said I had one. I went to a different dentist who said I cracked another tooth.
They want me to take statins too. I did when they first were available. But, now, I know statins do not prevent heart disease or stroke. They do reduce the substance in your body that your brain uses most. They cross the blood brain barrier. Not good, not ok. So, I will see a cardiologist who believes in lifestyle modification in December. I have a horrible familial history, but, not a personal history with the disease.
As a matter of scale there is no entity more treacherous and more subversive than our own government.
Subverting the constitution, and our liberty and our rights and power as citizens.
Undermining us every step of the way.
Here is the link to Tim Poole discussing the unconstitutional relationship between government and corporate media:
From now on, to stymie surveillance, I will share nothing online except boring meatloaf recipes.
Recipe #1
1 lb of ground meat (beef or turkey)
1 bread pan
Preheat oven to 425
Put meat in pan to form loaf (be sure to remove meat from packaging material)
Cook until done
Next week, we’ll try adding salt.
You know those pepper jellies one receives with the meat and cracker gift boxes come the Christmas season?
Those jellies are a delicious addition to any meatloaf recipe. 🙂
Phflipper: Yes, I know exactly what you’re talking about, but, I don’t want to give away any personal taste preferences, aside from the basic flavor groups. OpSec is very important.
lol, understood, loud and clear.
Always salt your data.
Salt? Add SALT? Look, Merrick, here we have the recipe for an insurrection.
The government never would have allowed the sale if Elon was not a willing partner.
It’s called CAPITALISM.
The government didn’t “allow” anything.
Maybe once upon a time that was true
Wrong. The allow limited capitalism.
Makes one wonder which came first the intelligence apparatus’ need for the Patriot Act or the “trigger”???
It’s OK Sundance. They are doing it for our own good. Nothing to see here….
In studying history, most normal people feel revulsion about the tactics of totalitarian states and tryrants.
But there has always been a core of pure evil psychos who study to learn and further implement those control and intimidation methods. With whatever tools and techniques are available. And enough wilful blind idiots who gladly join the team for personal gain.
In the past, great moral superiority and approval was shown for those trying to get fragments of truth to the brainwashed masses. Think of Radio Free Europe during the cold war.
Today, the online world is the real information battleground.
I’d like to believe this lyric from the Doors;
“They’ve got to the guns but we’ve got the numbers. Look out now, we’re taking over.”
Only those numbers need to wake up. Which brings us back to this whole information war.
Integrity Initiative
Oh, the Goberment will rabbit hole this quickly, I am sure they have their best people putting a plan together.
My money is on Michael Moore shooting the Canadian Underwear Hammer warrior in the stomach as he is transfered from the SF hospital to the court house. Puff, Portal Connections Story gone.
LOL. Michael Moore would be puffing so hard he could never pick up a weapon and get the job done.
Every day the mountain of illegal government activity grows, until even the proverbial “tip of the iceberg” seems insufficient to describe it.
And at least half of the country has no idea, and wouldn’t see the problem if you told them. They either think the government is on their side, or is just there to help.
This is among the most frightening things I have ever read – yeah, not that it’s new information, since I’ve been a Treeper for a long time. It’s the casual way in which the goons act like they’re entitled to violate the First Amendment, as if they know something we don’t: The Constitution really is no more, America is no more.
”… get more comfortable with government. It’s really interesting how hesitant they remain.” WHAT? Where’s he from?
“When the Intelligence Branch within government wants to conduct surveillance and monitor American citizens, they run up against problems due to the Constitution of the United States. They get around those legal limitations by sub-contracting the intelligence gathering, the actual data-mining, and allowing outside parties (contractors) to have access to the central database.”
This was Five eyes at first, but I suspect the needs became too great for other countries to assist with, and they were most likely asking for money and other favors. So they created the Fusion Centers. There are reportedly about 15-20 such as Fusion GPS, Booz-Allen and Crowdstrike. They can also dive into the NSA files for such as Hillary, Soros and Gates, for a price.
Sundance, are they still running with obamas stimulus every year?
Like Artie Johnson from Laugh In used to say…. Verrrry Interesting…
We are going to have to erect gallows in every community to fix this.
So it’s okay for the government to violate the Constitution as long as it’s a ‘private’ party they paid for to do it on their behalf? I would think Judicial Watch would be all over this one.
What’s next government paid for hit jobs on anyone they deem to be a danger to their Junta? It’s all Constitutional legit as long as they are just paying for the crime, not actually pulling the trigger?
Ditto for ‘private’ party lawfare where they bankrupt ‘targeted’ innocent people with false charges while the government holds back exculpatory evidence; all with no penalty in front of equally compromised Judges.
Though given how unaccountable and lawless the DOJ/FBI are who needs the mob?
Maybe it’s because with all their criminal activity they are just simply swamped?
“Outrage over Elon Musk’s new Twitter verification strategy is hilarious”
NY Post | October 31, 2022 4:35pm | Johnny Oleksinski
“Can you hear the loud whine emanating from the coasts?
That chorus of dweebs comprises elite newspaper reporters, columnists and so-called influencers who have just heard the news that Elon Musk, the uber-rich new owner and CEO of Twitter, might begin charging $19.99 a month to retain “verification” on his dumb social media platform.
Their moans are music to my ears!
According to a positively symphonic report from the Verge, Musk is gung-ho on shaking up the entire screwed-up system.
“The whole verification process is being revamped right now,” he tweeted.
Play on, Elon! Play on!
What Maestro Musk is hinting at, the report said, is that those stupid blue checkmarks might soon cost a staggering $240 a year, and that they will be available to more folks than just CNN writers, celebrities, YouTube stars and Pete Buttigieg’s husband.
Anybody can get one — Twitterté, tweegalité, tweeternité! — if they are willing to partake in one of the greatest scams since bottled water: 20 bucks every 31 days for a meaningless stamp.
However, that badge of BS means more than life itself to members of media.”
I think I am tasting the schadenfreudeliciousness once more.
This is a beautiful to watch for a conservative. Sundance gets it right, as usual. This is a big deal.
This explains a lot, very Fascinating.
Ms. Linsey takes credit for getting to the bottom of this in 3, 2….1
Isn’t a legal remedy the fact that these companies where essentially colluding with the Federal Government to shit can Freedom of Speech. Isn’t that a Federal Crime.
So is stealing elections, bribing politicians with laundered money via foreign add kickbacks, using sex rings to blackmail people, selling drugs to fund the CIA so it can generate endless wars, making up evidence to go after anyone that would stop you, etc.
Why do you ask? s/
Unfortunately, the FEDS now determine what is a Federal Crime. If they determine that your free speech is a Federal Crime, they will come after you.
This will only get worse until and unless We The People put a stop to it.
You’d think people would be outraged by this government/big tech surveillance, censorship and propaganda. But we only see and hear what we’re allowed to.
How shocking. /s
I’ve had a sense of this for a long time. Always hated social media typified by the likes of Facebook and Twitter. Now a few more details come to light.
Buckle up, Treepers. The rabbit hole goes deeper still.
Started looking into the PBs when they were countering the Antifa weiners in Portland a couple yrs ago.. It was pretty obvious that the MSM and most of social media were doing everything possible to label them a white supremacist organization even though their national officers included black and hispanic individuals. Came to the realization that it wasn’t the PBs or their beliefs, it’s that they were a growing, generally conservative group who supported PDT. Come to think about it, haven’t been hearing about the Patriots Prayer groups or the Bikers for Trump either. Certainly appears these conservative groups have been targeted.
Irreverent comedian Gavin McInnes started the PB about 6 years ago in New York as a men-only club for guys to sit around talking sh!t and getting sloppy drunk. After it grew out of control he left them; that was about 3 years ago.
I would love to see a list of every social media post that was highlighted and removed by the platforms. The user should then sue the platform and the federal government for their 1st amendment violation. Public private partnerships only make the case that much easier to demonstrate federal violations now.
What a world it could be if everyone stopped feeing their system.. but alas, that would be too easy..
Keep on shining the light on the satanic darkness of the deep state new world order fake – phoney and fraudulent scum who have always and continue their crimes against humanity- expose them, arrest and prosecute them and execute them and the family members involved in high crimes and misdemeanors as dictate under our Beloved Constitution!! Under the Constitution treason is punishable by death!! Time to reverse prosecute and let the slime ball traitors feel the wrath of “We The People”!!
I’ll make a bold prediction. NONE of the people involved whether they worked on the Gov’t side or on the private sector side will ever go to jail.
Well, at least they only spied. They may have not actually been responsible for that many deaths. So small potatoes, death-wise..
What about the folk who murdered 500,000 US citizens in order to ensure an untested mRNA therapy would be approved under EUA.
How soon our attention can be pulled from one aspect of THE REALLY heinous crime to another (less heinous perhaps?) of a different sort.
Look. Over there. A squirrel.
I’m still somewhat in thrall to the 500,000 deaths. My anger still burns. The Atlantic can stuff it with their “amnesty”.
And remember. That was just one of the first heinous crimes of the Covid Crew.
Division of Homeland Securty was formed to be make sure our borders are secure, coordinate with all other law enforcement and intelligence about those coming and going, not spying on U.S. citizens social media. It disgusts me to no end that they are not doing their jobs. Why even have them or the worthless and politicized TSA if they don’t do ALL their jobs?
It is time to defund all of them.
That agency was never intended to serve the public interest per say. It serves the rest of the bureaucracy.
The security theater exemplified by the TSA serves other’s purposes. Behavioral conditioning among others.
LOL….that is their STATED purpose….just like the INFLATION REDUCTION ACT….they come up with these performance, honorable sounding names that if you watch the function of the action is OPPOSITE to its title
Orwell’s Ministry of Love was the torture center.
I REALLY wish Musk would stop helping Ukraine and playing footsie with this globalist cabal of scumbags. We’ll have to wait and see what actually becomes of Twitter.
He is in deep.
if you believe him to be a good guy….I have my doubts….then he has to continue to cooperate with the evil forces to allow him a modicum of freedom of movement…..if they feel he has gone to the other side they will clamp down and unleash full resistance at him
He can not. They fund his adventures.
Until someone else can land rockets on barges for reuse, Musk holds the cards in those conversations.
I see the powers that be letting out this information to inform the general public that you are all under surveillance, subject to being censored and possibly investigated/charged with a crime, and there’s nothing you can do about it. Comply, or face the consequences. The 4th branch has complete control and is not held accountable for anything, nor to anyone
Sadly I suspect you are correct. I wish I could give you more than one up-vote.
HA! I was going to post something similar when I got done reading the comments if no one else had.
They are letting this info out now because they believe it is too late for us to do anything about it.
The J6 political prisoners still rot in DC Gitmo, the Canadian truckers found out what life is like when they freeze your assets and the farmers in Europe let off some steam but didn’t change a thing.
Sometimes I am glad that I am an old fart and probably won’t see the final product
Sometimes solutions come from places we never suspect. Lately, each WEF aspiration has fallen one by one. Their intent with the jabs and many other things have not come to pass, yet. It has majorly impacted their timeline.
With a lot of grit and determination, we, the people, can turn this country around, just like we the people created it.
This was going to come out under musk’s ownership. The IC had to get in front of the story